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Indians live in that subcontinent over near the Asia. Various Native and Indengious people live in South America.

Aboriginal, Indigenous, or Native people also live in India, such as the Hmar, Arunachal Pradesh, Boro, and many others.

Oops, my wikipedia entry was unlinked.

Here it is.

I hadn't, but I found these sites:

News index on the case
Wikipedia entry

However, I should be mentioned that this stuff does happen in the USA as well. If a person is wealthy+powerful enough, you can threaten, buy, "remove" or many other things to witnesses. For the police, depending on the local level of corruption or bureaucratic influence, some of these may work as well.

This is just what I'm talking about. I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but they're not even close to reality. I'll have to assume that you were referring to market conditions back when the Xbox was first released, as opposed to the state of things now (when it's relevant).

I'm no expert on console market share, but I do know what comes up on the first page of a Google search. Here, I've done the work for you:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/05/26/news_60993 69.html

That article tells us that Xbox had a 51 percent market share as early as 2004. In the U.S., Xbox has been outselling PS2 ever since.

Nevertheless, I could cut you some slack if you don't live in the U.S. Even though Americans put more money into consoles than the rest of the world combined, the console market in other parts of the world is not so Microsoft-friendly. If you go by global figures (where Microsoft is still the new kid on the block), then the picture changes. Here's something I pulled up about Sony's current console market share. It was published today, so you won't need to use your time machine when learning about market share:

http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2006/sep/09game.htm

"Not worried about the headstart that Microsoft has gained in the next-gen gaming space, Jayant Sharma, chairman and CEO, Milestone Interactive, engaged in marketing of digital devices, interactive games and media, points out that in the console market in India Sony has a 100 per cent market share and 70 percent globally."

100 percent in India?? 70 percent globally! I think in all the confusion, we all assumed that only Americans buy console games? It seems that Sony is already the Microsoft of the console world. Perhaps they might actually know what they're doing when it comes to releasing consoles. Cheers.

No, it's not a "communist state". It's a state in India (with the same constitution and political system as the rest) whose democratically elected coalition government is led by a party called the "Communist Party of India (Marxist)". Look it up (say here) if you like.
The ban on Coca-Cola and Pepsi came after an NGO reported dangerously high levels of pesticide in them, although it is possible that there were other reasons.

Wow - that sounds so much like the July 11 Mumbai train blasts.

For anyone doubting the feasibility of this scenario, see this

http://sikhissues.blogspot.com/2006/01/al-qaeda-of -india-rss-vhp-bjp-orthodox.html
I think America should NOT outsource to India till a comprehensive social security plan is implemented in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_insuranc e
Otherwise America is contributing to "race to the bottom" in India where 85% of people do not even have bank accounts. http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/01guest3.htm

The crux of the matter, however, is that the problem is much much more complex than that; you see, Bangladesh exists between, and below, Indian territory on both sides. India is connected to its North East by a stretch of land that's merely twenty kilometres at its thinnest, sandwiched between Nepal and Bangladesh. The result being, trans-shipments between, say, Agartala and Calcutta[*] take shitloads of time; while, in the years before Partition, it was possible to travel between the two towns with an overnight bus journey, it now takes at least seventy two hours to loop around Bangladesh, as it were, and reach Calcutta. Having an open border with Bangladesh, therefore, would actually be rather nice to Indian citizens in at least a couple of ways.

So yeah. Two different continents, two different situations. Let's not compare them. :-)

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[*] - It shalt always be Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta and Madras when this Indian speaks in English. I pronounce the city-names differently in different Indian languages.

"Hypocrite" is a blanket word used in duckspeak, right up there with "democracy".

You know what democracy means? "rule by the people". How can someone have an approval rating in the 30s and be able to make the rules for another two years before the people can do anything about it?

My country allows opposing parties to make a motion of no confidence in the case of minority rule, but the fact of the matter is, the people can't make this motion. And in the case of majority rule, no one can do anything.

Canada's 2000 general election cost $200 million, while the US election cost an upwards of $4 billion. Two elections a year = about $30 a head. I'll pay that to put a little fear and accountability in our gov't.

Then maybe they wouldn't be able to pass stupid laws like, say, not allowing online gambling.

In retaliation for muslim ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir:

http://www.panunkashmir.org/fundamentalism.html

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:vkcaOQjIS9MJ: www.kashmir-information.com/fundamentalism.html+Is lamic+Fundamentalism+in+Kashmir&hl=en&gl=us&ct=cln k&cd=1&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a

  Two wrongs don't make a right ideally. However, the only feasable way to deal with terrorism and islamic mob savagery is to retaliate tenfold. America's success in Afghanistan against the Taliban, and Israel's successes in defeating the PLO, and Fatah, and Hamas are proof of that.

  Best I recall, Indians don't do these:
http://www.rawa.us/f-hang.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9 /WTC_attack_9-11.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/d ecember/13/newsid_3695000/3695057.stm
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/oct/21franc.htm

  or ram planes full of people into buildings full of people. Nor do they blow up parliaments, or teach hate ahead of maths in schools, madrassas and qutbas. Indians don't behead journalists or anyone. We don't have state sponsored rape gangs.

    India has history, art, science, technology, the world's largest democracy and third largest army.

    If anything, Indians are doing a poor job of taking care of the terrorists. The incompetent and corrupt UPA government seems to learn nothing. If it were the Israelis in Kashmir, the Jihadis would all be urinating in their pants by now, gibbering for mercy like retarded people.

  Great to see some more anti-Hindu sock puppets of Pakistan on slashdot though.

http://www.rediff.com/money/2001/nov/17wtc.htm

Proceed to engage in nonsensical conspiratorial blather.

What's especially amusing is that they've had this article since April 26th of 2002.

You're reading the WRONG economists... http://www.rense.com/general26/ftw.htm http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=99 95 http://economicapocalypse.blogspot.com/ http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/mar/20asoc.htm http://www.michaelmandeville.com/collapse2006/inde x.htm

The lines between Government owned, Government supported, and Private enterprise is _very_ blurry in China.

http://www.rediff.com/money/2005/sep/15bspec.htm

I do think that the U.S. government should retaliate against China's "no one may own more than 49% of a Chinese company" policy. On the other hand, the macroeconomist inside me tells me that is a stupid position.

*shrug*. . . . Who knows? I do know that the Chinese domestic market is far from a fair one.

http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/apr/08spec.htm

The UTI bank is glad they have linux running.

"Today, we are really happy with Linux that has delivered 99.99 per cent uptime so far," says Pritesh Thaker, AVP, IT, UTI Bank.

With so many important events to pick from http://in.rediff.com/news/bush06.html - especially the nuclear pact - Slashdot chooses outsourcing as the "event to report".

"Yay, would this mean outsourcing is going down, or that the industry is growing? Also, does this mean that it's actually worth it for me to continue my education and get a degree in Computer Engineering? "

The answer to the second question is no..... It's just the same pattern repeating itself. (1998, 1999, 2000, 2005...)

... Tech companies are now forced into the domestic JOB market as the H-1B quota is closed for the remainder of the federal fiscal year (til Oct 1).

Hence ALL the squealing by President Bush and the industry lobbyists.
Lobbyists perpetuate their scam by claiming every position staffed by a contractor/consultant as unfilled !!

• the Spanish Inquisition
• the Crusades
  Wiki article
  But, it's alright, because those weren't "real" chrisitans. Ref
• the burning times - The extermination of Witches and other heretics
  50 - 100,000 burned to death or hung Ref

At least two persons have been arrested for allegedly assaulting a Hindu woman and setting her house on fire in Orissa after she refused to change her religion

International general secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad Pravin Togadia and Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi received a combined death threat Tuesday ...
The death threat claiming to be from the "Christian community"

There have been cases of same-sex marriages and cross-dressing gods in the scriptures of course; Ayyappa was born out of the cosmic union between Shiva and Vishnu (both male gods, for those who aren't up to speed on the Hindu Pantheon), and didn't know this until a quick google search, but Bhagiratha, the god-king who brought the Ganga to earth, apparently had two mothers. (source)

(Different matter that the Indian Penal Code is still confused about sex between two consenting adults; in fact, it's one of those interesting cases being fought in Indian jurisprudence today.)

You now know where my sympathies lie; while we can agree to disagree on whether we individually approve of same-sex marriages, the question is this: seeing as it is, that you are not American, as you said, but Indian, does evidence of a general tolerance of same-sex relationships in ancient India change anything about the social structures and civilization that you were talking about?

Sorry, Patent Denied, Fisher Price claims prior art:

Fisher Price Baby Smartronics Computer Learning System
Another

I was an IT worker in India. I am Indian. Indian IT companies recrit all sorts of engineer i.e civil, mechanical, electrical, chemical etc apart from comp sci. Since most engineering students have atleast a common denominator of traits like analysis, rigourous coursework, maths etc. the IT companies know that they can train them in sofwtware with relative ease. Of course the CS grads get the more better technlogy to start with (says database. java etc) while the non - CS ones may have more maintenance, mainframe, testing kind of job to begin with. Most IT companies take grads and subject them to 1-3 months intensive introductory software training courses just like a mini college course. Check for example the infosys global education centre Also large Indian companies are in turn opening offices in China , Hungary etc to outsource the outsourcing.

No US firm can do a rip at less than a dollar per CD and remain financially sustainable in the long run.
Recently I spoke with a bunch of folks interested in doing this out of India ( ie. outsourcing CD-ripping)

Pros:
1. CD to mp3 at 5 cents per CD. ( Most US firms charge around $1 per CD)
2. Audio Casette to mp3 at 10 cents per tape. ( Most US firms charge upwards of $5 per tape)

Tascam makes a decent cassette->CD converter

Cons:
Shipping. This isn't Java code you can "ship over the wire". Packaging CDs + courier costs + potential damages + Customs duties at port of entry bring the costs back to a dollar per CD :(

btw, the Audio Cassette to mp3 market is much more lucrative within India, & for Indian immigrants abroad( roughly 2 million Indian immigrants in USA, 1.5 mil in UK ). An average Bollywood movie has 6 songs. About 800-900 films released per year, mostly music available in audio tapes only. Old Bollywood films ( 1980s & earlier ) are exclusively on audiotape. That means the average Indian household has 100s of audiotapes lying around. The mp3 market in India is exploding, mp3 players available dirt-cheap
Last I counted, I have 375+ audio cassettes waiting to be converted to mp3, & I'm not even a hardcore Bollywood fan!

I wish "intellectuals" like you should read this
http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/may/18ca.htm.

Also a person should be smart enough to hire good programmers.

Even McDonalds is investing in India now.(100 million dollars approx)
Article

So all you guys hoping that you can get a job at McDonalds asking "Do you want fries with that"... think again;);););).

The main reason why the Indian government wants to make it a publicly known document is because there have been many cases where products like basmati (long grained rice from India and Pakistan), turmeric (used as an antiseptic in ayurvedic medicine), the neem tree (used for anything from disinfectant to toothbrush to itch reliever for chicken pox), bitter gourd(excellent for treatment of diabetes) etc. It took 10 years to revoke the patent on Turmeric (from the BBC website). I don't think anyone wants to go through that kind of litigation without having some strong proof of prior art.

Suppose some Indian company wants to export these products to the US at some later stage, or the patent laws allow for greater integration with worldwide patents (it's not probable... but anything's possible right?), then the patents issued would cause problems for them at that stage. It is this that the Indian government wants to avoid by creating a searchable digital archive with proof of prior art.
-Mohan

Actually Schumacher's Ferrari was just shown to be faster than a eurofigher at distances shorter than 900m. After that all the extra downforce drags the Ferrari compared to the eurofighter which doesn't need any downforce. Here's a pic of the event.

Many times these books are sent to India where they are scanned
and then the electronic versions and the physical versions
are shipped back. It costs just $4 to scan a book in India.
see http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/aug/16spec1.htm

Delhi was the first city in India to have in-car GPS map systems available to the consumer. Further, an extremely detailed map of all locations in Delhi is available from several other sources. The only concern here is the resolution of the maps, Google Earth can provide. The potential hazard seems to be the ability to identify independent buildings which are usually less accessible. However, for maps from aerial photographs and satellite photographs, there are companies who claim to have had access to such information and provided services from them like Ridings India.

For one, yes - a Terrorist organisation would have had some difficulty in obtaining relevant maps of locations they target. Dr. Kalam believes that the issue is ease and speed of access to the maps of higher detail than normally available commercially, which might assist terrorists. There was a foiled attack on the Indian Parliament during the tenure of the last Government (in 2001) which was ill-planned.

However one can take a tour of the Parliament building and premises when it is not in session and therefore map it with sufficient ease, though he'll have to wait for sessions to be off. As for residential locations of the President (Rashtrapathi Bhavan) or Parliamentarians or Government Officers, they are almost known to anyone in Delhi. The trouble in a terrorist attack is usually penetrating the "Z-Class" security cover provided to those who are potential targets.

While strategic maps may be significant weapons in an openly declared war (particularly of military installations), in covert warfare methods used by terrorist operatives other factors including "surprise" and "stealth" play more importance; requiring intelligence operatives to monitor any possibilities and be prepared. Another recent attack on a Hindu Shrine in Ayodhya was also foiled due to tight security and collaboration between military, civilian and paramilitary security groups (although the miscreants had access to the maps). Satellite Maps of Ayodhya are yet to be provided on "Google Earth". I am quite surprised that Dr.Kalam has come up with such a comment, having been a scientist for ISRO and DRDO prior.

Funny they are not calling this a beta product. I copy/pasted an RSS feed link (http://www.rediff.com/rss/inrss.xml), and my broswer stuck for a very long while with the "loading..." dialog (still stuck). My browser is firefox 1.07. Does anybody have a similar experience ?

Wow, you are so wrong and misguided it isn't even funny.

The war against India was not imperialistic at all; it was a border dispute that India was getting too agressive about; we attacked them, taught them a lesson, and backed out. If we were so imperialistic, why don't we hold any Indian territory today? In fact those same territories that were under dispute then are still under dispute now.

Wow, guess who else is so wrong and misguided? Have you picked up a history book or bothered to look at multiple sources of history to see what actually happened in the 1962 Sino-Indian War? It was completely because of imperialistic desires; among other things, it provided a "bridge" into Tibet, which China claims as its own. There were protests in India and China over this occupation. Ethinically and geographically it belongs to either Tibet (a free one) or India -- definitely not China. Are you even aware of what China said was its valid reason for conquering the territory? It was to "liberate three million Tibetans from imperialist aggression, to complete the unification of the whole of China, and to safeguard the frontier regions of the country." What utter nonsense!

And guess who started the war? Like you said, the Chinese. First, the Chinese took over whatever it felt necessary (Tibet) and started heading towards the Indian border. Second, India put up a military to safegaurd what was clearly its boundary -- a good bit behind what China already claimed at that point. Then, the Chinese decided that border patrol was an act of agression and felt validated conquering MORE territory. And, no they haven't left, yet? Hence the "dispute". So why did India not press itself militaristically? Because India did not have a military set up that China already did in the region; it is hard terrain that India has to play cath up with. So, it remains a "border dispute" that China guards agressively.

The current Chinese foriegn policy towards India dictates, basically, containment. Yeah... no imperialism there! I wouldn't be surprised if you more of your post has it "so" wrong; heads up moderators -- the parent is spouting bullshit.

Some sources:

Asia Times: India in China

The battle for the border

The Sino-Indian War

1962 Sino-Indian War: An Overview

Number of PC viruses in 2004: 30
Number of Mac viruses ever:26

Do the math. Oh, and most of the stuff that SAM flagged...

MS Word macro viruses: 533

Sources:
Mac Viruses by the numbers
30 PC viruses played havoc in 2004

India pledges 5 million dollars for Katrina relief operations

"it's also one of the biggest countries to overthrow democratically elected governments and replace them with a pro-US dictator whenever that fits better into their goals."

Help me out, here, with some post-Cold War examples."

Well chavez is a great example because the US tried to overthrow him and the people wouldnt let them. I believe the US backed guy was in office less than a week before the capital was taken back by the PEOPLE. Just because the americans, the CIA, are getting sloppier in their overthrowing of govts, doesnt mean they gave up trying. Oh and dont forget panama in 1989 (yes thats technically in the cold war but recent enough for my tastes). And of course theres Haiti, where a military coup in 1991 removed the democratically elected president Aristide. Although the US nor the CIA was ever held responsible, it is widely known that the leaders of the military coup were trained at the school for the americas (CIA) in the U

Btw, Mr Sriram has little to do with Google's huge success. He made his billions pimping for the two crazy lads. Google's wasn't even mentioned in his presentation in 1999. Give credit where credit is due.

14,000? The OP itself says 13,000 jobs, the NY times article says 10,000 t 13,000 jobs, AND the article on an indian website says IBM may hire upto 13,000 workers..

What gives?

IBM may hire over 14,000 in India
http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/24ibm.htm

This story is all over in Indian press.
http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/23bpo.htm
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1408799,001 300460000.htm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/115 0344.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/115 0670.cms
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=4 9334

Two seperate mild tremors felt near Mumbai and North-east India.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/jun/14quake.htm

Hip?

Search on long phrases like this:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=history+choco late+has+been+associated+with+romance+and+sharing

Doesn't find this:

http://www.cadbury.co.uk/

But finds a lot of sites that clone the text, like this:
http://search.hotbot.co.uk/results/chocolate/
http://yahooshopping.rediff.com/yahooshopping/even ts2004/newyear/yhxmas-1-4-0-0-0-1021752.htm
http://www.jlr.co.uk/partners.htm

Its not hip to bash Google, its deserved criticism for launching a poor result. They're getting off lightly.

India's remote sensing satellite CARTOSAT-1 was on Thursday successfully placed in orbit, 18 minutes after the PSLV-C6 carrying it lifted off from Sriharikota.

Thirty seconds later, the PSLV-C6 placed another satellite HAMSAT in orbit.

...Built for a mission life of five years, CARTOSAT-1 is mainly intended for cartographic applications. HAMSAT is a micro-satellite for providing satellite-based Amateur Radio Services to the national as well as the international community of Amateur Radio Operators (HAMs).

...Thursday's launch was ISRO's 20th mission since the first one 26 years ago. Fifteen of the 20 launch missions were successful, one partially successful and four proved to be failures.

This should be a familiar problem. You try to sell a cheaper system by stripping out features. But to get rid of those features, you have to tool up from scratch, and your system ends up costing more money than you save. That's what killed the legacy-free PC, and a lot of other stuff.

The Indian steam engine you're talking about perhaps:
"Automatic door opening and closing mechanism and the train cannot move unless all doors are closed and locked. If a door opens accidentally in the moving train, brakes will apply automatically, bringing the train to a halt."

Check out this , this and this.

On second thoughts, why bother. I forgot I am at /.
:roll:

True, according to this report China is slated to be the biggest economy by 2005 (less than 10 years away) with the United States and India in second and third places respectively. If China and India join hands, there are bound to be some changes in how the world economy works.

1. China waged war on India in 1962; India was caught with their pants down.
2. China backstabbed India with this war. Months before the war the then Prime Ministers of both the countries were courting each other. The relationship was so deep (at least from the Indian side) that in India the dominant slogan was "Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai" (Indian and Chinese are brothers)
3. China still controls thousands of square kilometers of Indian territory

1. China waged war on India in 1962; India was caught with their pants down.
2. China backstabbed India with this war. Months before the war the then Prime Ministers of both the countries were courting each other. The relationship was so deep (at least from the Indian side) that in India the dominant slogan was "Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai" (Indian and Chinese are brothers)
3. China still controls thousands of square kilometers of Indian territory

1. China waged war on India in 1962; India was caught with their pants down.
2. China backstabbed India with this war. Months before the war the then Prime Ministers of both the countries were courting each other. The relationship was so deep (at least from the Indian side) that in India the dominant slogan was "Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai" (Indian and Chinese are brothers)
3. China still controls thousands of square kilometers of Indian territory

The BBC seems to apologize a lot for their reporting, do a quick search and you will find many examples. Here is a few:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ifs/hi/newsid_4220 000/newsid_4222300/4222353.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ifs/hi/newsid_4270 000/newsid_4273300/4273385.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ifs/hi/newsid_4030 000/newsid_4032600/4032665.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_ra dio/1544897.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1050290.s tm
http://www.vermontguardian.com/dailies/0904/0322.s html
http://cbsnews.cbs.com/stories/2003/03/21/iraq/mai n545215.shtml
http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/03/news/beeb.h tml
http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/jan/28bbc.htm

Some are serious, some are ridiculous. But in the end, apologies result from improper reporting, much different than a simple correction.

A much more detailed article here
However it happened, it appears that the effect on outsourcing is going to be big.

Citicards, the Credit card division of Citibank, got a new CIO several months ago. Mitchell Habib. He came from GE Medical. Before leaving there, he outsourced about 75% of their IT staff to India. He's currently doing the same at Citi. I worked there as a contractor. Two other contractors on the team and I were unable to get our contracts renewed because it came down from on high that all new contracts had to go thru TCS, Tata Consulting Services. They are the Indian outsourcing company that he used in the past. I recently went back to visit some friends and met my replacement. A nice young Indian guy making a third to a quarter of what I made there.

From what I understand, the standard rate for calculating your budget for contract work went from $70/hr to $22/hr. Of course, I believe they charge around $40/hr for their workers in the states.

Can't compete with that.

Here are some links about Mitchell Habib and TCS:

http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/apr/03tcs.htm?zcc =rl

http://www.tcs.com/0_media_room/releases/200204apr /20020411_ge_medical.htm

http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/03hole.htm

An indian scientist had done work to prove that black holes do not exist as Hawking has described them. Even Hawking was forced to agree. For some reason this work was given minimal press.