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Re:rat yourself outDisclaimer: I am a law student, but I haven't had Con Law yet. None of this is legal advice.
There's a reason you can be compelled to give DNA and other physical samples as evidence against you. See here for a more detailed explanation of why. Here's the executive summary:
You are absolutely correct quoting the Fifth Amendment. The courts are trying to fulfill the policy goal of making sure that witnesses aren't erroneously convicted of a crime. The phrase "witness against himself," obviously means that you shouldn't have to incriminate yourself with testimony. Even if you are innocent, however, you can still feel pressure in the witness box. If you stutter or 'choke', a jury could mistake that as a sign of guilt. On the other hand, DNA evidence, urine samples, and yes, data from a 'black box', don't have this problem. They represent hard evidence, and are much less likely to lie than you are. They can still be contested, like any evidence. Fingerprinting in particular has been called into question of late. Nevertheless, this sort of evidence doesn't fall within the narrow reading of "witness" in the Fifth Amendment, because it isn't being restricted by the same policy considerations. Therefore, you can be compelled to turn it over without running afoul of the Constitution.
There are privacy concerns to be sure. Of course, if you're speeding, then you're speeding. You're still in favor of cops arresting people using radar detectors, right? (Arguments about speeding being a victimless crime go elsewhere.) Somehow, it doesn't seem to me to make a difference whether the radar 'gun' is in his car or yours. Some of the arguments so far seem to be "oh shit, now I can't speed or I'll get into trouble." That doesn't impress me. The GPS tracking arguments are a little more worrisome, but not much more. You have a GPS or other location tracking system in your cell phone, right? You do take your phone with you in the car, don't you?
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Re:NYNEX Still SUX
Sorry but that $15/mo for unlimited data is a LIE.
See Sprint PCS will refuse to sell a UNLIMITED data account for anyone wishing to use a Sprint PCS PCMCIA Connection card. Source: http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/servicePlansOpti onsV2/DataPlans.jsp
As you can see, Sprint's highest data service offering is $80/mo for 300MB of data transfer. Extra MB costs $0.002. Additionally your required to enter into a 1-Year Agreement with Sprint.
Now, the "$15 unlimited data" the poster is talking about is the Sprint PCS Vision Professional Pack. Source: http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/servicePlansOpti onsV2/FreeClearFairFlexiblePlans.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Ef older_id=1478057&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_SCID=ECOMM& CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_PCode=None&CURRENT_USER%3C%3 EATR_cartState=group&bmUID=1094155658077
This $15/mo option is a data service intended for a Sprint PCS cellphone to use to browse the web, send emails, SMS, etc. It was never meant by Sprint PCS to be used as an unlimited data service for a laptop or PDA. In fact, the only way you can use this service for those devices is if you buy a data cable for your Sprint PCS phone that SPRINT WON'T SELL YOU! Sprint PCS *used* to sell data interface cables for their phones but they stoped when they realized the cat was out of the bag. Now you can go online and buy a 3rd party data cable and use the Vision service from your phone as a data service for you PDA/laptop.
HOWEVER, this is no way makes it an OFFICAL service plan or SUPPORTABLE. Hell, in fact Sprint PCS's billing system and customer service are so damn fucked up half the time when I hear of people using their PCS Vision phone for data service they have horror stories to tell about billing screwups. One particular story they got the data cable and told Sprint to enable the unlimited PCS Vision service for their phone and then the next month got a $1300 bill from Sprint!
People need to know that using the Sprint PCS Vision service in this way is a total workaround circumvention and unsupported! I don't know why SPrint PCS hasn't closed this loophole in their system, perhaps their billing system is incapable of dealing with that many data customers. Who knows!
In any case, of all the carriers out there in the US T-Mobile seems to have the most sensible plans. Unlimited data behind a NAT - $20/mo option
Unlimited data with a routeable IP - $20/mo option
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Re:Sit down and enjoy the coffee
Starbucks, with their deployment of wireless APs in their stores, and now with the music concept, is really working hard to keep customers sitting down longer in their stores, consuming their products.
Hmm, at Starbuck's rates I'm surprised that anyone is using their wireless service at all. The rates are one of the following plans:
$6 / hour ($0.10 per minute additional after first hour, minimum 1 hour)
$10 / day (continuous 24 hours)
$40 / month (continuous)
$360 / year (continuous)
Even the bulk rate of $360 per year is pretty damn close to what I pay for my cable modem service at home! The only thing is that I LIVE at home and I only VISIT a Starbucks so I'm likely to get better use out of my home cable modem than a yearly Starbucks/T-Moble account. Not to mention that I also get a bunch of pop/imap e-mail addresses, web space, and a some other perks with my cable modem service.
It would be much smarter for Starbucks to simply provide a limited-time access code with every product purchase. Say, a free 1/2 hour of wireless access for every $3 spent on coffee or other products. Set up a simple system that prints a time-limited code on every receipt. The code is good for so long after the receipt is printed and then it is retired. This would encourage people to buy products and would discourage dumpster-divers from finding activation codes in litter and leeching off the network. -
Danger Hiptop/Tmobile Sidekick
What about the Hiptop (aka T-mobile Sidekick in the US)?
More links here, here (they sometimes go for as low as $29.95), and here.
I know several people that use this as their only method of connecting to the Internet. I guess it's not the best as a word processor but the developer OS allows for Java applications to be written and uploaded to the device. -
Re:Mixed Feelings
Why don't you just *gasp* cut out the middle man and order direct from the provider?
Here I'll make it easy,
T-Mobile (great where there's service...can you say FREE DATA? thought you could)
AT&T wireless ...Okay service (as in coverage) expensive data. Hope you never need to call customer service.
There's others of course...All the main ones will sell to you direct and you usually get a better deal, as in more minutes for the same price.
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starbucksAt Starbucks, Wi-fi connection powered by T-Mobile is obnoxiously expensive, as is a cup of stinky coffee. Unless you are already T-Mobile customer, you will pay $29.99/mo for one year or $9.99/day to get connected(here. Starbucks might have promotional price for day passes [=$6??]).
I agree that it is convenient to have wi-fi connection at coffee shop, but since I have broadband up and running at home already and I don't go to coffee shop every freakin day anyway, signing up for one-year contract is too much to get such a minor benefit. In addition, I see people fighting over a limited number of wall outlets to juice up their laptop. Is this a good business model? I don't think it is. As a corporation Starbucks can't care less about WiFi because it's run by T-mobile, and regardless of success or failure of such extraneous service as this, they are the biggest coffee chain in the nation.
What Cometa should have done is to establish partnership with rival coffee chains (e.g. coffee bean) and sell hotspot to the chain (corporation) as a product that attracts more customers, instead of using coffee shops as a place to sell their product to individual customers. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, the number of free hotspots is very limited. If there is a coffee chain that offers free WiFi access, I would choose them over Starbucks. Being WiFi ready alone might pay off the connection fees due to the increase in the number of customers per day, month and year.
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Look at it as an opportunity
Disclaimer: I'm a happy T-Mobile customer, I know nothing about the current situation, and I have not read my contract, nor do I intend to. (Nor do I believe I'm bound by an intentionally obfuscated contract, but that's another matter.) Oh, and IANAL.
I signed up for Sprint PCS around January 2003, with a one year contract. I was generally satisfied with the service, but inevitably, other companies started offering better deals. (Specifically this, which was even cheaper at the time.) I didn't mind that too much... Sprint had given me a fancy phone for free, and in return I was willing to buy their service for a year.
However, around June, Sprint raised my rates. Actually, they restructured all of their charges in confusing ways, but the result was a net increase of about $0.80 per month. They blamed the increase on the new number portability requirements, and frequently referred to it as a "tax" (though the fine print in the new contract stated explicitly that "this is not a tax.")
Now, I couldn't care less about the $0.80, but hey... we had a contract. I had already gotten what I wanted out of the contract (the free phone,) so I was only sticking around to fulfill my original commitment. Apparently Sprint, however, wanted to void that contract, and that was fine by me.
It took about three hours on the phone to sort it all out. I won't recount the whole battle, but I will share one tip from my experience: no matter who you talk to, the first words out of your mouth should be, "I want to cancel my account." Once I learned that, it only took a few minutes with an underling and her supervisor before they agreed to release me from my contract.
Actually, I think Sprint made a tactical error. If they had offered to remove the surcharge (or give me a credit to offset the surcharge,) I'm not sure I could have still insisted that the contract was void. Apparently that's the deal they made with some people, but in my case, they just let me go.
So, as I said in the subject, customers who are hit with a surcharge like this should see it as an opportunity, not an annoyance. All of a sudden, you're free to go service-shopping again. Have fun. -
Re:First things firstYou Europeans and Asians have it so good. You can actually get the P800 or P900 with a service plan there, so it doesn't cost $1000.
Amen Brotha. Take a gander at this for confirmation of APAC/EU gets goodies, we live in cell hell.
However, Motorola may do good by us with this teaser... How I wish Catherine Zeta Jones would purr to me with one of those things...
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Manufacturer's web site
Can't believe I forgot to link the manufacturer's web site in my post! Here it is again:
The NYT article (available here reg-free (thanks, guys!)) is short on details, but the manufacturer's web site has much more detail.
Some interesting notes:
* Their technology currently only works on GSM phones, so here in the US, it'll only block T-Mobile customers. No more Catherine Zeta-Jones hollering "Stop!" in the middle of your bowling tournament. I hate it when that happens.
* The company is Canada-based, so they're outside the reach of Ashcroft & co. The NYT article quotes the company's founder as saying that the technology is useful in mosques... if the founder is indeed Muslim, he's probably wary of landing on Ashcroft's little Enemies List. Heck, I'm worried myself, 'cause I'm not sure what he thinks of Methodists these days! -
Only blocks GSM
The NYT article (available here reg-free (thanks, guys!)) is short on details, but the manufacturer's web site has much more detail.
Some interesting notes:
* Their technology currently only works on GSM phones, so here in the US, it'll only block T-Mobile customers. No more Catherine Zeta-Jones hollering "Stop!" in the middle of your bowling tournament. I hate it when that happens.
* The company is Canada-based, so they're outside the reach of Ashcroft & co. The NYT article quotes the company's founder as saying that the technology is useful in mosques... if the founder is indeed Muslim, he's probably wary of landing on Ashcroft's little Enemies List. Heck, I'm worried myself, 'cause I'm not sure what he thinks of Methodists these days! -
TmobileI'm not a shrill for Tmobile, but am happy with their service and specifically looked for an international roaming plan before porting my number from Nextel out.
We chose the Motorola V66 phones because of their triband functionality.
After activating the TMobile Worldclass service (free to activate) I have traveled to Europe without a problem. I switch to the local band, and I'm on in most cases. Only once have I had to call local customer service.
There is a list available online. I do know that my triband does NOT work in Japan. But you can actually rent a phone from Tmobile if needs be. Since you mentioned Japan as a destination, this might present a problem for you.
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TmobileI'm not a shrill for Tmobile, but am happy with their service and specifically looked for an international roaming plan before porting my number from Nextel out.
We chose the Motorola V66 phones because of their triband functionality.
After activating the TMobile Worldclass service (free to activate) I have traveled to Europe without a problem. I switch to the local band, and I'm on in most cases. Only once have I had to call local customer service.
There is a list available online. I do know that my triband does NOT work in Japan. But you can actually rent a phone from Tmobile if needs be. Since you mentioned Japan as a destination, this might present a problem for you.
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TmobileI'm not a shrill for Tmobile, but am happy with their service and specifically looked for an international roaming plan before porting my number from Nextel out.
We chose the Motorola V66 phones because of their triband functionality.
After activating the TMobile Worldclass service (free to activate) I have traveled to Europe without a problem. I switch to the local band, and I'm on in most cases. Only once have I had to call local customer service.
There is a list available online. I do know that my triband does NOT work in Japan. But you can actually rent a phone from Tmobile if needs be. Since you mentioned Japan as a destination, this might present a problem for you.
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Website Demos
A number of manufacturers provide website demos of their phones. For example, I bought a phone this week, for the first time doing so on-line rather than in a store. I was comfortable doing so because Sony provides a demo of the phone (the T610) on their website. In addition, the provider to which I have switched, T-Mobile, provides demos of the phones on their site.
It ain't as good as the real thing. Just yesterday -- after ordering my T610 but before getting it (I'm anxiously awaiting its Monday delivery) -- I saw a T610 in person for the first time. I was surprised at how tiny that it was. But there were no surprises -- it functioned just as the demonstration showed that it would.
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Yes, but how do you use it at starbucks?
All of those pay-to-play Wi-Fi APs in coffee shops and airports need to talk to a browser to authenticate your NIC. It's not clear how you can do that with a phone.
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Another option
Rather than trying an over-IP option, you might want to change cellphone provider to one that allows faxing. This is probably the easiest - your phone will look to OS X like a fax modem, so it's fairly simple to send 'em.
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GSM standard?
Um, in the US as a whole, the CDMA (Sprint/VZW) network is far superior to the GSM networks--and that includes both CingulATT and T-Mobile. Everyone I know agrees. My roommate got an ATT phone--and requested specifically the older TDMA technology just to avoid the GSM hell we have here.
Another example of this smart decision--another US TDMA provider, US Cellular, is transitioning its subscribers not to GSM, but to CDMA, after having considered all options. Who gives a shit if you can use the latest stupid-ass Sony-Ericsson phone if your service is so bad half your calls are dropped and the rest, nobody can hear you?
I'll take CDMA and no Bluetooth support over the pathetic US GSM network any day. And by the way, the whole world most certainly has not standardized on GSM technology. Far from it. Over 188 million subscribers worldwide rely on CDMA.
Just because large portions of Europe use GSM only doesn't make CDMA any more proprietary. What's wrong with competition in the marketplace? When several vendors join forces to cooperate on one network, we get what happened after the T-Mobile/Cingular accords in 2001--the companies cram twice the subscribers onto one network while investing no more resources in network infrastructure. This results in a shitty, unreliable network. But with competing standards, each companies has to keep up its network or die. I'd say that's preferable. Who cares if phones are portable between networks? The contracts keep you in one place for a year or two anyway, and by the time the contract is up you can buy a comparable replacement phone that works on the other network for $40 on eBay. Big deal. -
Re:Good news for Apple partnership?
Really?
Hmm, thats odd. I know T-Mobile also sells the Sony Ericsson T610. Although they have discontinued them to make way for the T616.
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Re:Who benefits out of this?
I've taken my Cingular all over Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Kentucky without any lapses in service... so the coverage is pretty good in those areas, at least.
You're right, though. T-Mobile is the largest GSM provider in the US.
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Re:It also means...
Do you have TMobile service where you're at? I'm VERY happy with their service and they're NOT Verizon or Cingular.
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Re:More featuares means more incremental sales
I recently got a Sony Ericsson T610 from T-Mobile (for cheaper than free, after rebates). For an extra $4.99/mo, I get "t-zones" unlimited internet access. This includes checking email on my phone, and whatever WAP sites I want to visit.
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$10 a DAY that is, not an hour
What I don't understand, is why people don't research anything and then bitch about "how expensive it is". It is NOT expensive.
If anyone actually bothered to go to T-Mobile web site and see the service plans, you would know you can get DAY pass for $10. And if you have T-Mobile cell phone, unlimited WiFi is $20 a month. Beats many dial up providers by mobility AND price.
And, while on the subject, WiFi might become even less needed as same T-Mobile now offers free WAP browsing, and unlimited "corporate" GPRS is also $10.
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Deaf enabled phone
Actually, my girlfriend is deaf and carries a cell phone. It works pretty well.
She has one of those T-Mobile Sidekick ones where you connect the Internet (web browser, AIM, and even an available SSH client).
It's actually quite useful. She can get her email, AIM and SMS messages in one place. There are even AIM -> TTY services so she can make "voice" calls on the road.
It's still a phone too. So if there's some sort of emergency and a hearing person is there- they could use it.
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T-Mobile already linked with AOL
Deutsche Telekom [which has the 4 divisions T-Online (Internet), T-Mobile (cell phone service), T-Com (fixed line service, basically the German fixed line network), and T-Systems (something like extended IT services)]...
We just signed up for a T-Mobile phone for our daughter -- would you believe they've taken all the pay phones out of the school gym? She's going to be going to Europe on a school trip, and T-Mobile's phones are the only ones compatible with the European standard. Why waste money on phone cards she probably won't use?
Packed with the phone were scads of flyers and brochures touting AOL IM service on her T-Mobile phone. Fortunately, she's smart enough to know how useless such a "service" would be, especially at 5c per text message.
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Re:Speaking of wireless
They are TMobile Hotspots. Not free.
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Re:Speaking of wireless
They are TMobile Hotspots. Not free.
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Re:I don't think so...Ok, I'll close the gap:
Handspring Treo 270 $249.99 with rebate, $349.99 without
T-Mobile Sidekick (Danger Hiptop) $249.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
RIM Blackberry 6230 $199.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
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Re:I don't think so...Ok, I'll close the gap:
Handspring Treo 270 $249.99 with rebate, $349.99 without
T-Mobile Sidekick (Danger Hiptop) $249.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
RIM Blackberry 6230 $199.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
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Re:I don't think so...Ok, I'll close the gap:
Handspring Treo 270 $249.99 with rebate, $349.99 without
T-Mobile Sidekick (Danger Hiptop) $249.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
RIM Blackberry 6230 $199.99 with rebate, $299.99 without
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Re:Idiocy - bluetooth just taking off
I don't think that I would call this total coverage. I suppose that that shows just where you live, but the old 800MHz analog service is the nearest to total coverage. I'm very interested in switching to GSM (int'l travel), but that map up there isn't convincing me to.
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Cingular == T-Mobile in California and New York
Cingular and T-Mobile jointly operate their data networks in California but each have their own 10MHz, so call/data volume on one doesn't affect the other. T-Mobile provides Cingular's service in New York, as well. See this press release.
So if you live in one of those two areas, there would be no coverage difference between them and ATT Wireless is the only other option. GPRS roaming between T-Mobile and ATT Wireless does not work, even though they have a voice roaming agreement. -
Re:RIM software extremely super bad
>If RIM software is so bad, why do they seem to be so popular?
We can ask the same question about windows and McDonalds... The answer isn't quality. ;-)
>Our executives, half of which can hardly send email on their computer, have been wetting their pants and frothing at the mouth over the idea of getting these, even when it means a $6-8k investment in a year where $250 needs written approval.
It certainly isn't hard to use, and if the software worked without glitches, I'd have been much happier with mine. However, likely the most major problem is Blackberry's decision on firmware upgrades/updates at the time. The decision being that there wouldn't ever be any.
If you've got a lot of money to burn, it's a nice device. It's only major faults are price (which everyone can see, it's far too expensive) and poorly written software (something I experienced personally -- hard to show you it unless I take a screencap -- but being it isn't in use now, that's too much trouble).
>I used one for a couple of weeks recently (a T-Mobile one) with the desktop software. I didn't have any crashes or hangups, but I didn't do much with it besides send a few emails.
I talked with a RIM worker (since I live in K-W, it isn't hard to find one). When I told him about the trouble with my model, his answer was "Oh, that's the really old one. We've fixed the problems in the new models". Well, that's nice, but for a $400 device (at the time), you think they could offer the new firmware to me...
>I found the device overall limited in its ability to intelligently route mail; I either got everything including spam or just emails from select people, which seems kind of pointless.
Yes, there was no spam filtering (or at least, there wasn't any at the time). Unless you ran exchange, from what I could see there really wasn't a way to "intercept" the mail and scan it yourself, apart from keeping your RIM address a secret, and using another email address, filtering it, and forwarding all the mail left to the pager. A real PITA.
And no sane person would use their exchange software, being as it is (AFAIK) higher priced than exchange itself.
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T-Mobile Has Filters
I got my first SMS spam a couple of months ago and promptly complained to T-Mobile. The rep pointed me to their text messaging which includes some simple spam filters. I haven't gotten any SMS spam since.
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Re:Who cares?Speak for yourself. Me and most of my friends use e-mails and SMS to arrage meeting up, nights out etc. SMS is more popular because of it's instancy, but e-mail will catch up when proliferation of mobile e-mail becomes more widespread.
So, and what exactly stops me from using sms on a phone without built in mp3 player, the capability to watch movies and the possibility to edit word/excel documents? The beauty of sms is its simplicity.
What failure? Please elaborate on what you think is a failure.
For starters: They weren't able to lure any major cellphone manufacturer in. Big suprise: They didn't want to be OEM manufacturers for a Microsoft branded phone. So they turned to the network providers and where able to cut a deal with Orange. A couple month later deals with Swisscom as well as T-Mobile to release a Microsoft powered phone fell appart, due to bad bugs, which they weren't able to resolve. You can read some of Orange SPV reviews for yourself. In general there seem to be a few zealots, which consider this to be a good phone, despite all it's limitations. In essence:
Battery life is barely sufficient to last a day
Bugs crash the phone on occasion
After which it requires 40 seconds+ to boot and connect
You can't dial your synchronised Outlook contacts directly (this might, or might not be fixed, alas it doesn't thing high praise on the much touted integration)
There are very, very reasonable security concerns
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I wouldn't exactly call this a roaring success for the Microsoft Smartphone platform.
Add to that the absolute miniscule marketshare in comparision to Symbian.
This might change of course, if Microsoft pours billions and billions of $ into this market, but there's certainly no guarantee (especially since the telecom industry fears nothing more then deviating from standards and Microsoft has a rotten track record in this respect).
So, yeah: Given all those reasons I'd call Microsofts Smartphone Platform a spectacular failure to date.
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Re:T-Mobile
T-Mobile has an internet service plan that is about $20 for unlimited access, I think.
It's actually $30, which includes 300 SMS messages, but no talk time. So basically you have to add this to your existing cell plan (which is at least $30 if you use your phone at all). This is better than it used to be. Previously they had no unlimited plan, and even the 5MB plan was about $20/mo. Still, I can't get myself to pay $30 more every month just to use GPRS with my Treo, cool though it may be.
Now, if they came out with some sort of package deal that included some talk time, or better yet a deal where X minutes == X MB and you could just draw them both from a total pool, that would be great.
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Advertises at $29.99/mo (intriguing)I'm a T-Mobile customer in St. Louis (I live in the city), and except for a few dead cells here and there is pretty thoroughly covered.
This plan seems interesting. It says $29.99/mo for unlimited access, but curiously lists $0.20/minute for calls. T-Mobile uses GSM, which means this data connection is probably provided via GPRS, so it's not technically using a call to do so. (Sidenote: I know from experience that unless you specifically have GPRS added to your plan, T-Mobile will handle Internet access as a phone call, charging you minutes. Thus, while Internet access on a GSM line seems like it would always be GPRS, this isn't the case.) At any rate, it's not totally clear what all this plan offers. It would be nice to know if they would add this on to a standard phone plan of theirs so you don't have to pay for minutes.
Don't assume they'll do this unless you ask. They can be pretty goofy about the plans they'll let you set up. Good luck!
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Re:What I want:
Motorola v.60 using T-Mobile works great for me (CT).
T-Mobile
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Re:T-Mobile Sidekick... seems to have been discontinued.
At least I can't find it at their website anymore.
(doing a google search...)
Ah, there it is.
From their site:
Please Note: Due to overwhelming demand, Sidekick is currently unavailable. Please check back soon!
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Re:T-Mobile Sidekick... seems to have been discontinued.
At least I can't find it at their website anymore.
(doing a google search...)
Ah, there it is.
From their site:
Please Note: Due to overwhelming demand, Sidekick is currently unavailable. Please check back soon!
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Re:I'll be impressed ...
Some of us have had total network coverage already for years. Coverages in Europe and in USA differ by an order of magnitude...
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Re:Dang it, there goes my stomach lining...How about $0.30 per spam email?
I just looked--I have some spams in my inbox upwards of 60KB.
Now suppose for a moment that I had signed up for T-Mobile's $20/month Wireless Internet service plan.
At $5/MB after I use up the first 5MB, that spam would cost ME $0.30! It is for this reason that I am NOT going to subscribe to a wireless internet service yet. I was seriously considering it the other day, but then realized I really do not have 100% control over what comes down that pipe at my expense.
Now take it a step further... what if I flushed my IMAP cache for some reason? I could easily pay another $0.30 to download that same spam!
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Re:First ones free kid....
$30/month makes some sense... your average home broadband connection costs about $40/month. And some people actually spend THAT much time in coffee shops.
Also, many Starbucks stores are in strip malls with their backs to residential neighborhoods... it'd be a nice way to save $10/month if you happened to live within 1,000 feet or so.
What I don't understand is why their prepaid service plan ($50/300 minutes=$0.17/minute) costs more than their "pay-as-you-go" service plan ($0.10/minute). Am I missing something? -
If only this passes..
Just think - the ability to keep numbers allows anyone to switch to the cheapest price plan du jour, until the price war bottoms out. Then what? Maybe certain companies (anyone? anyone? ) would have to stop competing on pure price and actually start to offer services valuable to customers, such as the ability to make and receive calls reliably.. the horror! (in fact, the telcos could even realize that if thousands of people in a certain area code are ditching, then perhaps it's time to buy a few more towers there?)
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Re:WinCE dominance - my ass
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Re:Number/Phone distinctionReplying to an AC... wow.
I don't know the exact reasons why GSM wasn't chosen in the US. I can tell you that it STILL has a fairly small footprint in the US (with lots of uncovered areas; take a look at the coverage maps at T-mobile's website, and notice the spots where coverage just ends - the road usually keeps going).
If I had to guess, I'd say that the huge uninhabited areas worked against GSM as a standard. Systems that work wonderfully in the NY-Washington corridor (the only place in the US with a consistent population density approaching that of Europe) work like crap in the prairie.
Just about every weirdness of the American mobile market can be attributed to our billing system - we pay flat rates for local calls. Mobile companies had to adapt to this, so you pay for incoming as well as outgoing minutes. Still, from looking at some of the UK rate plans I've seen, we've got a much better deal in most cases. I have the much-maligned Sprint PCS (which does have spotty coverage, but damn it's cheap), and for $35 a month (after taxes!) I get 300 anytime minutes and unlimited nights and weekends from anywhere on their national network to anywhere in the US. Imagine being able to use a Lisbon-based mobile in Moscow without paying any charges, and you get the idea.
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Re:Mobile phones
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Re:Cost and Speed
Beginning in 2004, the service will cost between 30 (US$32) and 35 per flight. Not bad compared to for example what T-mobile charges at the airports.
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Re:hmm
T-Mobile (formerly Voicestream) also provides GSM coverage in the US. I use their service and have been pleased so far.
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Re:How do you take payments on this?
Why don't you take a look at T-Mobile's Hotspots in many Starbucks. They make you sign up for an account with a credit card, although I imagine the phone company could just bill you like they do with your regular phone bill. I use this all the time as it can sometimes be difficult to find decent high-speed internet access when I am travelling.
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Re:Java-based phones similarly stupid
What ones have you seen? As I said, I've never seen a Java-based phone that prevents developers from loading their own apps.
You can get the LG 5350, Samsung SPH-A500, Samsung SPH-N400, Sanyo 4900, and Sanyo 5300 through Sprint PCS. There's a developer program at developer.sprintpcs.com.
You can get the Motorola i85s, i50sx, i55sr, i80s, i90c, and i95cl through Nextel. There are developer programs from Nextel and Motorola.
You can get the RIM BlackBerry 5810 from AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile. RIM has a developer's site with an SDK and simulator.