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Re:I hope they just let him go
As a journalist, Assange must be a passive observer of the world, publishing information given to him. He shouldn't have any active role in obtaining the information.
Your depiction of the neutral and objective journalist is entirely that of the Tannoy. you put your message in on one side and it comes out the other. It becomes journalism as extension of power. And that is a head-on attack on the press as watchdog over power.
Under Obama this event was known, and it was not used (despite their already aggressive anti-press stance) because it would endanger journalism ( https://theintercept.com/2018/... ) -
Re:Well at least they're consistent.
What's interesting is that for-profit prisons aren't the only group. Even if the government runs the prisons:
https://theintercept.com/2016/...
"POLICE AND PRISON GUARD GROUPS FIGHT MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION IN CALIFORNIA"
I'm against for-profit prisons, but I'm also against public-sector unions since they have the same perverse incentives.
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Re:Not just social media
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Re:Trump's campaign manager and personal lawyer...
Sounds like a lie to me, how much more completely can one apologize?
https://theintercept.com/2019/...
Will you apologize for your lie?
Quick reminder of what we're stacking this up against:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...
I think whistling and looking the other way from that kind of thing, calling the recognition of Islamophobia as being just as bad as anti-Semitism "watering down," is disgusting.
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Re:Why would anybody trust a mobile listening devi
They do most decidedly not "collect everything"
Hahaha, the stupid guy thinks himself a privy to the inner workings of the intelligence services.
their collection methods would be far too easy to detect.
LOL, the stupid guy must have missed the stories about NSA having those little taps to all the telecom communications infrastructure, from the warmth of the offices of the telecom companies themselves to the cold of the bottom of the ocean. And we're not even touching their antenna business.
You must be really, really stupid to think that someone will go to these lengths to collect data and then don't collect and keep all of it. In an age when even a private company keeps all they can, even after a user asks for it to be "deleted"?
You're not just stupid, you're a certified idiot with less than amoeba intelligence and zero critical skills.
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Re:At what point
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Huawei should be Banned in Germany
Oh yeah, we Americans don't want those stinky intelligence on Iraq WMDs, we just demand more nude photos of Angela. If the Germans start using Huawei, how can we get those photos?!
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Re:Who benefits from making Russia the enemy?
They don't need any significant basis. They have a relation of trust with the media so they only need to voice 'suspicions' on something for the media to take it seriously and inflate it. Suspicions and insininuations don't need any base. You can just take any open source event and nod knowingly. That's also the logic of the Mighty Wurlitzer.: if there is a whole body of wide spectrum suspicions then everybody moves in the general direction of the claims. Nobody pays attention if the claims later are shown to be baseless. And those who do, well, evidently they are willing or unknowing accomplices for the bad guys.
My sources are people like Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, people at Consortium News and the American Conservative. In general (but not always) people who think Trump is disgusting but who also think he's mostly being attacked on trumped up conspiracy theories or on his rare good initiatives (Normalization with Korea, getting out of Syria, getting along with Russia(that was only an intent which he gave up on)) but whenever he does something revolting he suddenly becomes presidential.
Most of what you believe as fact on Russiagate is nothing more than conspiracy thinking. And not only the media. Take the whole Mueller investigation. It was started on 'a suspicion' and ends with it. But in the meantime everyone just 'knows'. In a decently functioning system you need a high threshold in order to start an official investigation against a sitting president. When the threshold is lowered it just becomes politics.
An article listing media failures on Russiagate
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Re:"using blockchain technology to cover its track
Why would any gov touch blockchain technology knowing the NSA was all over it early on?
The "tracking down" using OAKSTAR and MONKEYROCKET.
https://theintercept.com/2018/... (March 21 2018)
Every movement is known to the USA making the gathering, keeping and later sale of anything blockchain a trap. -
NSA has been looking at cryptocurrency use
https://theintercept.com/2018/... (March 21 2018)
Recall OAKSTAR and MONKEYROCKET.
Thats internet use with search, password details and MAC. With bait software. -
Re:Because... Apple
Apple is not the innocent privacy-loving company so many people believe them to be.
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Re:Wait before you draw conclusions
1. patent infringements are not the same as IP theft by definition;
2. patent infringements happen all the time in the US, check the East Texas court filings.
3. and patents are also enforced in China. in fact, it is known that foreign patent holders get favorable ruling over there.
4. at the same time, patent trollings also happen all the time in the US, also check the East Texas court filings.
5. The US also commit IP theft even nowaday, in addition to its historic dirt. -
Chance of accusation
U.S. President Donald Trump has accused China of stealing American innovations and technology and has slapped trade tariffs on $234 billion of Chinese goods to punish Beijing.
So how is this story really related to the Chinese IP theft accusation? Perhaps, we should also be reminded of American's own dirty history and current activities?
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Re:2008 justice
Here's the non-fucked up link
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Re:The US imprisons a higher percentage of its peo
Private prisons account for less than 10% of the overall prison population. We've had this problem far longer than we've had private prisons. It might be trendy to hate on companies, but they're hardly the only interested parties in keeping people locked up for silly reasons.
The rise in private prisons has merely been a direct result of the government owned facilities getting overcrowded and the inability for states to secure funding to build additional prisons. Of course these private prisons want guaranteed minimum occupancy rates so there's further incentive for the state to keep locking people up. There've even been a few stories of judges getting kickbacks, so the whole system is pretty much a racket.
I suspect that with marijuana being legalized in more and more states, we'll start to see a sharp decline in prison population. There are a sizable group of prisoners who are there for no other reason than possessing slightly too much of a particular plant or other substance. We're wasting a lot of money locking up people who could otherwise be paying taxes. -
Re:No actual evidence for the so-called DNC hack
And virtually everybody in the US intelligence apparatus disagrees with him.
The only statement we have which tries to make the opinion (an "assessment") from the Obama administration which I can't find anyone who seriously believes; nobody believes all of those agencies agree on anything much less that opinion. Sy Hersh says as much when he talked about that assessment and the media's lacking coverage of it ("What does an assessment mean? It's not a national intelligence estimate. If you had a real estimate you would have five or six dissents, people saying, 'cause I can tell you right now. One time they said 17 agencies all agreed. Oh really? The Coast Guard and the Air Force, they all agreed on it? And it was outrageous and nobody did that story."). Even the ostensible source of Russiagate stories—alleged collusion between some Russians and the Trump campaign—isn't looking so rosy for proponents anymore (it never looked relevant for the American public; Russiagate doesn't address the public's concerns it only reflects elite's interests). As the title indicates, "Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment." and one report concurs. And this kind of downplaying has been done before. To think this is all being done in service of a neoliberalist losing a rigged election in search of an excuse to distract us from her culpability, what those leaked emails actually said, and possibly manufacture lies that could help foment a future war with Russia.
No they don't, they're morons.
Sources and evidence, not namecalling, are required to sustain convincing arguments.
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Re:No actual evidence for the so-called DNC hack
And virtually everybody in the US intelligence apparatus disagrees with him.
The only statement we have which tries to make the opinion (an "assessment") from the Obama administration which I can't find anyone who seriously believes; nobody believes all of those agencies agree on anything much less that opinion. Sy Hersh says as much when he talked about that assessment and the media's lacking coverage of it ("What does an assessment mean? It's not a national intelligence estimate. If you had a real estimate you would have five or six dissents, people saying, 'cause I can tell you right now. One time they said 17 agencies all agreed. Oh really? The Coast Guard and the Air Force, they all agreed on it? And it was outrageous and nobody did that story."). Even the ostensible source of Russiagate stories—alleged collusion between some Russians and the Trump campaign—isn't looking so rosy for proponents anymore (it never looked relevant for the American public; Russiagate doesn't address the public's concerns it only reflects elite's interests). As the title indicates, "Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment." and one report concurs. And this kind of downplaying has been done before. To think this is all being done in service of a neoliberalist losing a rigged election in search of an excuse to distract us from her culpability, what those leaked emails actually said, and possibly manufacture lies that could help foment a future war with Russia.
No they don't, they're morons.
Sources and evidence, not namecalling, are required to sustain convincing arguments.
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Re:What a shithole country!
Do you miss the mass murder of innocent civilians?
Don't worry, 90% of the people murdered by drone strikes are not even the intended target.
https://theintercept.com/drone...
Forget whether the intended target is guilty of anything.
So the US military is still profitable for the bomb producers who control them.
We know it's not to stop terrorism.
Because that problem has only gotten worse since the "war on terror".
If the US wanted to stop terrorism, they'd stop funding it.
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Re:Slats
The folks charged with securing the border overwhelmingly want a wall to assist their job
Well, we have a lot of good reasons not to give a shit what they want. Fortunately, we don't usually let thugs and nazis make policy.
https://theintercept.com/2018/...
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Hypocritical FUD
oh.. yeah, then they don't need to go the more obscure way.
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Re:I'm surprised it doesn't go the other way.
The reason the US government doesn't steal foreign tech
Except the US government has done exactly that:
The report recommends “a multi-pronged, systematic effort to gather open source and proprietary information through overt means, clandestine penetration (through physical and cyber means), and counterintelligence” (emphasis added). In particular, the DNI’s report envisions “cyber operations” to penetrate “covert centers of innovation” such as R&D facilities.
The level of American hypocrisy makes me vomit every day.
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Re:How much does this matter?
You joke, but...The Kill Chain: The lethal bureaucracy behind Obama’s drone war.
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Examples of insufficient management at Amazon
I have seen many, many examples of insufficient management at Amazon.
It is VERY important to recognize ALL of the abusiveness of Amazon. Only a small part of that is mentioned here, in this re-post of a former comment, with added information:
My opinion: Jeff Bezos is not a sufficiently capable manager. Evidence: Look at any Amazon web page. As you are researching some product that is interesting, you are often distracted by other products. One fix: Put any distractions at the bottom of the page. There are many other shortcomings of the Amazon web site besides those mentioned in this Slashdot story.
A few of the stories about Amazon being abusive:
Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace. (New York Times, Aug. 15, 2015)
Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."
Amazon warehouse jobs push workers to physical limit (Seattle Times, April 3, 2012)
Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (Salon.com, Feb. 23, 2014)
Amazon paid no US income taxes for 2017 (SeattlePI, Feb. 27, 2018)
Undercover author finds Amazon warehouse workers in UK 'peed in bottles' over fears of being punished for taking a break (Business Insider, April 16, 2018)
The undercover author who discovered Amazon warehouse workers were peeing in bottles tells us the culture was like a 'prison' (Business Insider, April 18, 2018)
Amazon Gets Tax Breaks While Its Employees Rely on Food Stamps, New Data Shows (The Intercept, April 19, 2018)
Quote: "Though the company now employs 200,000 people in the United States, many of its workers are not making enough money to put food on the table."
Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (bloomberg.com, Feb 19, 2013)
Quote from the Wikipedia page for Jeff Bezos. (Nov. 29, 2018):
"Journalist Nellie Bowles of The New York Times has described the public persona and personality of Bezos as that of 'a brilliant but mysterious and coldblooded corporate titan'. During the 1990s, Bezos earned a reputation for relentlessly pushing Amazon forward, often at the expense of public charity and social welfare."
In my opinion, Bezos is not "brilliant". No one who is habitually abusive can be called brilliant; his abusiveness damages the quality of his own life.
Would you fly into space if the company has a manager who shows serious limits? Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos owns Blue Origin.. Blue Origin does NOT now have the capability of orbiting the earth. Would you fly into space with a company owned by someone who makes huge mistakes and doesn't detect them? -
Re:Do these guys even math?
NSA has been doing the OAKSTAR "math" to track senders and receivers of digital currency for years.
"The NSA Worked To “Track Down” Bitcoin Users, Snowden Documents Reveal" (March 21 2018)
https://theintercept.com/2018/...
A nice collect it all MONKEYROCKET project with timestamps, MAC address, network ports, internet addresses. -
George Bush, war criminal.
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Re:Democracy and low-information voters
you are literally putting words in his mouth for the sake of making this an argument about racism instead of an informed discussion about the actual issue.
So instead of talking about how education would solve this issue and how to promote critical thinking skills, you would rather us have a yelling match about race and how technology is supposed to solve it. Thus ignoring the fact that the power vacuum that existed after colonization ended promoted conflict and wars over power and resources that left the majority of the population under educated. I am glad that colonization ended but that does not make up for the fact that it has been replaced with warring factions that are often helped by our own government.
https://theintercept.com/2018/...But, no, lets change the argument to racism so that nothing productive actually happens and distract from the people who are being murdered because of misinformation and people greedy for power and resources, which includes our own government and military. After-all if we keep the population under-educated they will never realize that when we say "we bring you freedom" we actually mean "we take your resources to keep the status quo"
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EXTREMELY bad marketing!
"if they were smarter they'd make them add-on bundle products,
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Exactly! I'm seeing many, many examples of Amazon managers not being smart.
It is VERY important to recognize ALL of the abusiveness of Amazon. Only a small part of that is mentioned here, in this re-post of a former comment, with added information:
My opinion: Jeff Bezos is not a sufficiently capable manager. Evidence: Look at any Amazon web page. As you are researching some product that is interesting, you are often distracted by other products. One fix: Put any distractions at the bottom of the page. There are many other shortcomings of the Amazon web site.
A few of the stories about Amazon being abusive:
Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace. (New York Times, Aug. 15, 2015)
Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."
Amazon warehouse jobs push workers to physical limit (Seattle Times, April 3, 2012)
Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (Salon.com, Feb. 23, 2014)
Amazon paid no US income taxes for 2017 (SeattlePI, Feb. 27, 2018)
Undercover author finds Amazon warehouse workers in UK 'peed in bottles' over fears of being punished for taking a break (Business Insider, April 16, 2018)
The undercover author who discovered Amazon warehouse workers were peeing in bottles tells us the culture was like a 'prison' (Business Insider, April 18, 2018)
Amazon Gets Tax Breaks While Its Employees Rely on Food Stamps, New Data Shows (The Intercept, April 19, 2018)
Quote: "Though the company now employs 200,000 people in the United States, many of its workers are not making enough money to put food on the table."
Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (bloomberg.com, Feb 19, 2013)
Quote from the Wikipedia page for Jeff Bezos. (Nov. 29, 2018):
"Journalist Nellie Bowles of The New York Times has described the public persona and personality of Bezos as that of 'a brilliant but mysterious and coldblooded corporate titan'. During the 1990s, Bezos earned a reputation for relentlessly pushing Amazon forward, often at the expense of public charity and social welfare."
In my opinion, Bezos is not "briliant". No one who is habitually abusive can be called brilliant; his abusiveness damages the quality of his own life.
Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos owns Blue Origin.. Blue Origin does NOT now have the capability of orbiting the earth. Would you fly into space with a company owned by someone who makes huge mistakes and doesn't detect them? -
Re:So the FBI can only catch idiots with poor OPSE
The US gov likes the MAC.
OAKSTAR https://theintercept.com/2018/...
"... known as a MAC address, a March 29, 2013 NSA memo" -
Re:Just when you thought it couldn't get worse...
What was once OAKSTAR of the NSA can now be done at the state level
:)
"The NSA Worked To “track Down” Bitcoin Users, Snowden Documents Reveal" https://theintercept.com/2018/... (March 21 "2018) -
Re:Assange's defense ...
"No one in any administration, be it Sweden, UK, or the United States has given any stated reason by way of freedom of the press for not pursuing Assange.
Glenn Greenwald on November 16, 2018 wrote "As the Obama DOJ Concluded, Prosecution of Julian Assange for Publishing Documents Poses Grave Threats to Press Freedom"
https://theintercept.com/2018/...
where he cites this Washington Post article by Sari Horowitz from November 25, 2013 "Julian Assange unlikely to face U.S. charges over publishing classified documents" https://www.washingtonpost.com... which includes this quote from teh then DoJ spokesperson:
“The problem the department has always had in investigating Julian Assange is there is no way to prosecute him for publishing information without the same theory being applied to journalists,” said former Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller. “And if you are not going to prosecute journalists for publishing classified information, which the department is not, then there is no way to prosecute Assange.”So we have had a stated reason for nearly five years.
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Surf with the security services
American and British Spy Agencies Targeted in-flight Mobile Phone Use (Dec 7 2016) https://theintercept.com/2016/...
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Southwinds, Thieving Magpie and Homing Pigeon
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Re:Wrong Approach
Well seeing as free thinking, independent, rigorous, robust are all B.S. at this point
Staged news
https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com...Fake news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...https://www.realclearpolitics....
Not Independent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...https://theintercept.com/2016/...
https://theweek.com/speedreads...
I suppose robust might be legitimate as in robustly compromised
Amazing how badly people don't want links like these to be seen.
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Re:Wrong Approach
Well seeing as free thinking, independent, rigorous, robust are all B.S. at this point
Staged news
https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com...Fake news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...https://www.realclearpolitics....
Not Independent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...https://theintercept.com/2016/...
https://theweek.com/speedreads...
I suppose robust might be legitimate as in robustly compromised
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Got a riddle for you
In a corporatist system of government, corporate censorship is state censorship. When there's no meaningful space between corporate power and government power, it doesn't make much difference whether the guy silencing your dissent is Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Sessions. America most definitely has such a system.
That entire paragraph is plagiarism.
And when independent candidates run for office and can't get their message out for being shadow banned, and the corporatist candidates are always the number one trending subject, you'll be there to finger wag for not bothering to set up their own world-class content distribution system first.
Any time you try to talk about how internet censorship threatens our ability to get the jackboot of oligarchy off our necks you'll always get some guy in your face who's read one Ayn Rand book and thinks he knows everything, saying things like âoeFacebook is a private company! It can do whatever it wants!â Is it now? Has not Facebook been inviting US government-funded groups to help regulate its operations, vowing on the Senate floor to do more to facilitate the interests of the US government, deleting accounts at the direction of the US and Israeli governments, and handing the guidance of its censorship behavior over to the Atlantic Council, which receives funding from the US government, the EU, NATO and Gulf states? How "private" is that? Facebook is a deeply government-entrenched corporation, and Facebook censorship is just what government censorship looks like in a corporatist system of government.
Well that sure looks familiar too.
What takes random paragraphs from internet sources based on key words, with a time span ranging in years, and cobbles them together to make forum posts?
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Re:Free Enterprise
In a corporatist system of government, corporate censorship is state censorship. When there's no meaningful space between corporate power and government power, it doesn't make much difference whether the guy silencing your dissent is Mark Zuckerberg or Jeff Sessions. America most definitely has such a system.
And when independent candidates run for office and can't get their message out for being shadow banned, and the corporatist candidates are always the number one trending subject, you'll be there to finger wag for not bothering to set up their own world-class content distribution system first.
Any time you try to talk about how internet censorship threatens our ability to get the jackboot of oligarchy off our necks you'll always get some guy in your face who's read one Ayn Rand book and thinks he knows everything, saying things like âoeFacebook is a private company! It can do whatever it wants!â Is it now? Has not Facebook been inviting US government-funded groups to help regulate its operations, vowing on the Senate floor to do more to facilitate the interests of the US government, deleting accounts at the direction of the US and Israeli governments, and handing the guidance of its censorship behavior over to the Atlantic Council, which receives funding from the US government, the EU, NATO and Gulf states? How "private" is that? Facebook is a deeply government-entrenched corporation, and Facebook censorship is just what government censorship looks like in a corporatist system of government.
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Re: So what's the issue?
President Trump uses two phones, just like President Obama did. Just like I said - this is no different, but for some reason we have to attack because Trump. And we can't bring up these facts because they don't play to the agenda of attacking the President (yes, this IS, in fact, fake news in that it is nothing different than the previous Administration).
This is an unsubstantiated hit piece NYT article from Maggie Haberman, who teed up story after story for Hillary Clinton. How objective is she, given she worked hand-in-hand with the Clinton campaign?
This is a pure political hit-piece trying to drum up anything they can to affect the November elections. You want to talk about collusion and meddling? Look no further than "articles" like this...
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Is Jeff Bezos a sufficiently capable manager?
My opinion: Jeff Bezos is not a sufficiently capable manager. Evidence: Look at any Amazon web page. As you are researching some product that is interesting, you are often distracted by other products. One fix: Put any distractions at the bottom of the page.
There are many other shortcomings of the Amazon web site.
Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace (New York Times, Aug. 15, 2015)
Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."
Amazon warehouse jobs push workers to physical limit (Seattle Times, April 3, 2012)
Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (Salon.com, Feb. 23, 2014)
Amazon paid no US income taxes for 2017 (SeattlePI, Feb. 27, 2018)
Undercover author finds Amazon warehouse workers in UK 'peed in bottles' over fears of being punished for taking a break (Business Insider, April 16, 2018)
The undercover author who discovered Amazon warehouse workers were peeing in bottles tells us the culture was like a 'prison' (Business Insider, April 18, 2018)
Amazon Gets Tax Breaks While Its Employees Rely on Food Stamps, New Data Shows (The Intercept, April 19, 2018)
Quote: "Though the company now employs 200,000 people in the United States, many of its workers are not making enough money to put food on the table."
Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (bloomberg.com, Feb 19, 2013)
Would you fly into space with a company managed by someone who makes those mistakes and doesn't detect them? Note that Blue Origins does not have the capability of orbiting the earth. -
Re:Alternative is worse
Surveillance and collaborating with Chinese authorities to identify "undesirable" people is the problem. Google is being allowed to trade ratting out people in exchange for money.
That's a pretty strong claim. Got anything to support it?
From an article in The Intercept quoting Jack Poulson who probably knows a few things about Dragonfly:
"In his resignation letter, Poulson told his bosses: “Due to my conviction that dissent is fundamental to functioning democracies, I am forced to resign in order to avoid contributing to, or profiting from, the erosion of protection for dissidents.”
“I view our intent to capitulate to censorship and surveillance demands in exchange for access to the Chinese market as a forfeiture of our values and governmental negotiating position across the globe,” he wrote, adding: “There is an all-too-real possibility that other nations will attempt to leverage our actions in China in order to demand our compliance with their security demands.”
As an example of Dragonfly support for surveillance, many news outlets, such as Engadget, have claimed that Google will be forced to connect search queries with phone numbers, which will further the Chinese goal of having Google abet their surveillance. In China, phone numbers are linked to real names to avoid anonymity. Google is also likely to be required to both host their data on Chinese soil and to partner with a local Chinese firm, with both requirements intending to ensure Google compliance with Chinese demands.
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Location tracking beacons
The number of people using the kiosks is easily dwarfed by the number of people affected by their advertising purpose -- to work as bluetooth and wifi beacons to provide location data for anyone carrying a cellphone within their vicinity.
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/08/linknyc-free-wifi-kiosks/
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Re:"Contracts" are not "blockchain"
AC re "advertising their success"
The Nsa Worked To “Track Down” Bitcoin Users, Snowden Documents Reveal (March 21 2018)
https://theintercept.com/2018/...
"... report dating to March 2013" Welcome back to XKeyScore MONKEYROCKET, OAKSTAR AC . -
Re:Thank Booz Allen & the Feds more than Snowd
One of the documents that was leaked or referenced was the system used to crack encryption (WindsorGreen/WindsorBlue).
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Re:The false drives out the true
The internet is the source of all knowledge, true and false. We'd once thought that by giving people access to both in the marketplace of ideas, with no gatekeepers, the "true" would drive out the false.
We're now realizing, however, that this may not be the case. The false can drive out the true, because it can be crafted to play to people's wants and needs and prejudices.
This is a problem. Does it have a solution?
Ask Glenn Greenwald:
CNN’s blockbuster July 26 story – that Michael Cohen intended to tell Special Counsel Robert Mueller that he was present when Donald Trump was told in advance about his son’s Trump Tower meeting with various Russians – includes a key statement about its sourcing that credible reporting now suggests was designed to have misled its audience. Yet CNN simply refuses to address the serious ethical and journalistic questions raised about its conduct.
The substance of the CNN story itself regarding Cohen – which made headline news all over all the world and which CNN hyped as a “bombshell” – has now been retracted by other news outlets that originally purported to “confirm” CNN’s story. That’s because the anonymous source for this confirmation, Cohen lawyer Lanny Davis, now admits that, in essence, his “confirmation” was false. As a result, both the Washington Post and the NY Post outed Davis as their anonymous source and then effectively retracted their stories “confirming” parts of CNN’s report.
Only one of two things can be true here, and either is extremely significant: (1) CNN deliberately lied to its audience about Davis refusing to comment on the story when, in fact, Davis was one of the anonymous sources on which the CNN report depended, and CNN claimed Davis refused to comment in order to hide Davis’ identity as one of their anonymous sources; or (2) Davis is lying now to BuzzFeed when he confessed to having been one of CNN’s sources for the story.
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Reporting v. “Media Criticism”Media outlets have invented a deceitful term to discredit and trivialize any reporting on their own wrongful conduct. Such reporting, they say, is nothing more than “media criticism,” in contrast to the “real reporting” they do. A New Yorker profile published yesterday that was designed to malign my own work on this story over the last two years – which has involved ample reporting on the conduct of media outlets in circulating false information – invoked this term of insult to dismiss such reporting as worthless.
This term is self-serving nonsense from media outlets, seeking to render their own behavior off-limits from journalistic scrutiny. Media outlets such as CNN and MSNBC are highly powerful corporate actors. Their behavior can generate immense consequences for society. When they engage in journalistically deceitful or unethical practices, or when they report consequential claims that end up being false as a result of their recklessness or bias, that produces highly harmful outcomes.
CNN - home of deliberately fake news.
How many of you who deride "Faux News" are going to even try holding CNN to any standard?
Guess what?
Until you do - until you're also willing to hammer CNN for actually running demonstrably fake news with questionable at-best sourcing - you are part of the problem.
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So basically it doesn't go far enough
... or better put - doesn't even come close to the stuff that ensures privacy and anonymity, as opposed to, say, the many good suggestions in the great Intercept's tutorial for anonymous sources.
This makes you wonder if Google purposely created such a feature at the request of US authorities, in order to trick unsuspecting whistleblowers (and yes, criminals too) into a system that is already compromised and gagged by default. The OP does raise a relevant problem - we need a feature to prevent retieval, hell, even sending of such emails, because we might simply not want people to expose themselves trying to tell us something relevant. For now it seems that option is not using your gmail address at all as a public contact...
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Re:Why change what's working?
As much as it was "worth it" to "thoroughly investigate" the possibility that Obama's parents planted a fake birth announcement in a newspaper because they knew he could be president some 45 years in advance.
While I would like to see more evidence of Russia's involvement, I believe that some data needs to be classified.
Why. Why would "FSB agent Romanov hacked voting machines in Michigan and Pennsylvania" or whatever need to remain classified. Not only is the USG applying sanctions to Russia based on a conspiracy theory, it has a Navy fleet deployed to the Black Sea, is arming literal neo-Nazis in Ukraine after overthrowing its government, and has artillery in range of Russia's second largest city. Why would you be OK with (mostly) unelected officials dragging you towards planetary annihilation without showing cause?
Also, unlike the Iraq war, we are making a minimal commitment based on this intelligence.
Yes, the Iraq war. Which blew the "just trust us" line all to hell, but you're willing to believe unsupported claims from the very same liars who got you into Iraq?
The fact that major Republicans have seen the classified evidence and are not fighting the investigation does give strong support.
Not when the subject is "never Trump Republicans", its not. The establishment of the Republican Party has no love for Trump as he's not one of them. If Jeb Bush had won the nomination and then the presidency, these same Republicans wouldn't GAF about the Chinese couple who gave his campaign $1.3 million, because the Bush's are the epitome of the GOP establishment.
Yes, many people are hopeful that this is a way to get rid of Trump, but I do think many/most Democrats don't see impeachment as the solution.
Then they'd be focused on beating Trump at the ballot box with something other than "we're not Trump", which they ran on two years ago to great results. But that's their only game plan, along with McCarthyite CT and talking impeachment, which would lead directly to President Pence, who would be far more of a danger to their base's interests than Trump ever was.
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Re:Thanks for my favorite bias example
Citation needed.
Given. You can also find the wapo story on it if you really want.
Naked assertion. You've got nothing whatsoever to back this up.
what the hell are you talking about?
You don't know what they're talking about? Remember when she handed off debate questions to Clinton from CNN? Or the reporters who went to John Podesta's house for dinners? You'll note they're registered democrats by the way. It's almost like you've only ever heard half the story...
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MISDIRECTION. Be not DISTRACTED.
June 25 2018: The Intercept draws attention to buildings they allege contain NSA splitter-taps taps on communications networks, and especial cooperation by AT&T.
June 28 2018: NSA jumps the shark releasing 'limited hang out' claiming they oopsied 685 million 'records' and are deleting them like good Boy Scouts.The records are supposed to gather attention away from the buildings and the idea of full intercept of gathering of communications. It's a shell game, and you're supposed to think "they were naughty but are sorry and they took care of it." Watch now as the 685 million records eclipse the prior story and the news networks start talking about 'records' and not 'taps'. Mission accomplished.
Senators do this too. Ask them a question about buildings or taps, or the infrastructure for continuous warrantless surveillance, and they'll pretend you asked them about that handy voluntary call record sharing program. Press firmly and they'll do it again. Press harder and they move on to the next question.
More,
>Reddit post on 5EYES and NSA splitters
> Things have got to change, But first, you gotta get mad!
> NSA and the Desolation of Smaug
> I am Sam. Uncle Sam I am.
> I really hated Men In Black
> Am I the first to suggest... BLACKMAIL??
> Sherlock Holmes: training wheels for NSA surveillance
> Stick a fork in the Republic, it's done. HR4681/309 (failed submission)
> The backbone, then (1980s) and now
> Whatever happened to the 'old' NSA? Directive 18?
> Last Wish: The Pact (dystopian fiction) -
Re: You mean when Russia hacked voting equipment?
So this woman is innocent then because anything she "leaked" was false? Please let the judge know before she serves years in prison for something she can't have done according to you.
She didn't do it- I'm telling you it was Magneto. And Bigfoot. In a UFO. Really.
Or Maybe She Did Do It. Because of MKULTRA. Really.
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Re: You mean when Russia hacked voting equipment?
So this woman is innocent then because anything she "leaked" was false? Please let the judge know before she serves years in prison for something she can't have done according to you.
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NSAâ(TM)s Hidden Spy Hubs in Eight U.S. Citie
"The secrets are hidden behind fortified walls in cities across the United States, inside towering, windowless skyscrapers and fortress-like concrete structures that were built to withstand earthquakes and even nuclear attack. Thousands of people pass by the buildings each day and rarely give them a second glance, because their function is not publicly known. They are an integral part of one of the worldâ(TM)s largest telecommunications networks - and they are also linked to a controversial National Security Agency surveillance program.
Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. In each of these cities, The Intercept has identified an AT&T facility containing networking equipment that transports large quantities of internet traffic across the United States and the world. A body of evidence - including classified NSA documents, public records, and interviews with several former AT&T employees - indicates that the buildings are central to an NSA spying initiative that has for years monitored billions of emails, phone calls, and online chats passing across U.S. territory.
The NSA considers AT&T to be one of its most trusted partners and has lauded the company's "extreme willingness to help." It is a collaboration that dates back decades."
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Re:Reason #2 why Marijuana's not legal
Focusing on the private prison industry (8% of total prisoners in the U.S.) is ignoring the bigger problem: prison guard unions support the same measures that increase prison population and they're much, much larger and politically more powerful. According to this article police and prison guard groups were responsible for about half of money raised to oppose legalizing recreational marijuana in California.