Domain: vg.no
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Comments · 82
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Re: Wait, all of us?
Norway gives their young people the choice of doing community service as an alternative to national service in the Army. Only 10% of the population go to university. The majority of the population lives in small towns of 10,000 or less all along the fjords on the Eastern side of the country, with four larger cities (Trondheim = 120,000, Stavanger, Oslo = 500,000, Bergen = 265,000). There really isn't much air pollution apart from the cruise liners that use sulphur based coal. Main food in Norway is fish.
Some corrections here:
- 33.4% of the population has education at bachelor level or higher, not 10%
- While it would be nice if the main food in Norway was fish, it isn't. Norwegians eat an average of 76 kg meateach year. Fish is less than half of that, and sinking.
- The populations numbers are also way off... the cities are larger. E.g in the area around Oslo, the population is around 1.5 million
- There was never an actual choice of doing community service rather than the military service. These days, it's voluntary. In the past, if you were accepted as a conscientious objector you would be set to do community service - but it wasn't a choice
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Re:Technology can NOT eliminate work.
It's not that we're running out of jobs, it's that the bar for being a productive worker keeps raising. Just 100 years ago you could hand someone a saw and an axe and tell them to make firewood. 50 years ago they'd get a chainsaw and cleaver. Today huge logging machines produce firewood cheaper than we could do paying ourselves minimum wage. Operating such a logging machine requires far more qualifications than swinging an axe, while the simple way of doing it has lost economic value to society.
We're seeing shortages of highly qualified professionals and intense competition for low-threshold jobs like taxi drivers, store clerks and warehouse workers. Why don't they become doctors, engineers and such? Maybe because it's not that easy for everyone. And we're working hard to eliminate those positions, for example here is a production robot warehouse of a big electronics supplier here in Norway, forward to 1:45 to see the actual robots. This is not a simulation or sales pitch, that's their actual warehouse system.
I don't have to tell you there's s ton of work going on to make autonomous cars. Retail is increasingly threatened by e-tail and self-service systems like these reducing staff there as well. A friend of mine works in construction, the new trend is modular houses where they more or less come off the assembly line. Maybe a few of them are creative and can make money off design or art. Maybe a few have physical talents and can go into sports. Maybe a few lack opportunity, but I really doubt that since we have free public universities.
On the flip side though we have healthcare, they claim with an aging population we'll need a lot more doctors, nurses and various other support functions for the elderly and that we'll be short of work. It sounds a little like canceling global warming with nuclear winter, but I'm not sure we'll actually run out of work no matter how much you have robo-farms with robo-trucks delivering groceries to robo-shops all by themselves. At least until we can provide a robo-nurse, but we don't have remotely the kind of technology for that.
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Re:Maybe ...
It does officially support HTTP1.1, but most servers detect Safari and use HTTP1.0 instead.
I haven't hit this problem myself on any of our large websites, but googling yields this, which seems to indicate that the problem may be on caching proxies. I haven't seen it with Linux Virtual Server (using Direct Routing), Apache, Squid, or Apache Traffic Server (with pipelining support enabled).
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Re:STUPID
Although you are being ridiculed, I think you are right. It is damn near impossible to have an accident and not having ten or more witnesses.
If you think that, you must live in the city. Outside the cities if you go off the road at night and tumble a few meters down so you're not in anyone's headlights chances are good nobody noticed and nobody will notice until morning even on somewhat traveled roads. Here's a typical example from Norway. Driver went off the road, the road is a little bit elevated from the terrain and at night nobody's going to see it. There are always tire tracks from old accidents, unless you see the car nobody's going to check it out. I found at least two recent fatal accident like that in April and in May here in Norway so for the whole EU area I think thousands per year is the right order. Of course not everybody could have been saved, but a lot of people suffer internal injuries in high impact crashes that must be treated or they will be fatal.
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Re:I saw TFA
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Re:I saw TFA
Reposting pics dinfinity posted above.... http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8728
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Re:I saw TFA
Guess you didn't look very hard. Gallery from TFA: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utrolige-historier/artikkel.php?artid=10078768
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Re:He wouldn't be so ecstatic
Well, the damage wasn't too bad actually. Pics: http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8728
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Sit back and wait..
In Norway there are people with similar given name to that of the evil-doer. According to a norwegian news paper (Article: - It's like waking up and being named Adolf Hitler (norwegian)), they are already being harassed by anonymous callers. This is only the beginning of all the wrongdoing, false inferences and juxtapositions with connection to this disaster. I think we will see more intolerance and suppression in the norwegian society from this.. sadly. The media has already drawn parallels, in a negative connotation, between the terrorist and one of the large political parties (Fremskrittspartiet).
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The terrorist
an extreme-right person http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080610 captured.
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News in brief
- The police confirms explosives were used
- There's also been an attack on a political youth organization just outside Oslo (parent organization is part of the government)
- 2 people killed, several injured (though nobody from the government - almost everyone in Norway is on vacation atm)
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Re:Where is the Google test?
An experiment done in 2010 on vg.no, a large news site in Norway, showed that up to 0.06% of their users could not connect to a dual-stack host, largely due to configuration problems in Mac OS X and Opera.
The problem occurs when the computer mistakenly believes it has a working IPv6 connection, so the browser tries the AAAA record first, which either outright fails, or causes a time-out delay before it falls back to IPv4.
These problems were fixed in newer versions, and the client loss is now at around 0.015%.
That's pretty low, and it was enough for vg.no to enable dual stack for the main website, just as these sites are now doing for a day.
Still, even at 0.015% that works out to quite a lot of Google and Facebook users.
(Source: http://www.fud.no/ipv6/)
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Re:Knuth didn't get anything wrong
TFA writes about how the norwegian newspaper VG replaced 10 squid machines with 3 varnish machines and got much better performance. That switch was done 5 or so years ago, before varnish was first released as open source. He's not writing about beating squid _now_.
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Norwegian sciencetists are laughing their asses of
Not sure if this has been posted before.
Norwegian sciencetists have been studying these creatures for 30 years. This according Norway's biggest newspaper "Verdens gang". (vg.no)
Original in Norwegian:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=591795
Translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Futenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D591795&sl=no&tl=en -
It was a russian rocket
..or so the theory goes. Norway's largest newspapers all did stories on this earlier today. Here is from one of them: Vg.no, and here is another dagbladet.no.
The first image from vg is taken with a long shutter time (or long exposure, or what the english expression is) on a tripod.
americans might consider these newspapers NSFW. Most norwegian ads contain a fair amount of tits and ass. just sayin'. -
Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:
Norwegian girls, Swedish girls. You decide.
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Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:
Not Norwegian myself, though lived there 7 years. Possibly moving back in the near future.
- 1. Pretty good I would say. The country has had budget surplus for years and is not feeling the effects of the crisis as bad as e.g. Iceland. Estate prices actually went up 4% first quarter (most Norwegians do own their home, so it's a good indicator).
- 2. Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French, many words are not guessable. Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed. Also, most imported TV shows and movies are in original language (i.e. 90% English). Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.
- 3. Insane, but you pay what you get for. Alcoholic beverages quite expensive because of local edition of prohibition never really being abolished. Foodstuffs are expensive because of protectionism, and quality is lacking (keep in mind I come from a country with high food standard, so I am picky; from the US it's probably still an improvement). Other wares (computer parts, internet connections, whatever could interest a slashdotter) are in line with most of Europe. However, salaries are pretty high for most standards. Note that the Gini index is quite low, i.e. as a sysadmin you will make more than in the US, but not as a CEO.
You forgot to ask for:
- Taxes; it's 25% VAT IIRC, plus about 25-30% on your income (that's for a typical engineering job, after all detractions are taken care of). In 2007 I made 458 kNOK (about $100k) gross as a C++ programmer and paid 29.5% in direct taxes.
- Healthcare: Grand Old Socialist system. You pay 7.8% of gross income (that's already included in the figure at the previous point), when you go to the hospital you could have to pay a fee; anything beyond a certain amount (it used to be 1600 NOK / $250) is shouldered by the state, though. Dentists are for reasons unknown to me only private (and guess what, that's the part of the Norwegian health care that it expensive and broken).
- Bureaucracy: pretty efficient. I live in Germany now and I think the Norwegians did a better job. Not boneheaded at following rules, result-oriented but not scruffy.
So yes, it's a pretty nice place to be, unless you can't stand snow, rain, and socialists in power.
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Re:It's alright until..
http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2009/06/02/1243927283904_621.jpg Sure looks like two-eyeballs to me.
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Re:Too bad this didn't come out 3-6 months from...right now this seems to give M$ a head start on tightening the DRM noose even more or insisting on TPM. Maybe now MS Norway's use of a Mac to demonstrate Vista makes more sense...
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Re:Game movies worth it?
And maybe a little more opacity
.. but yeah. Cortana would be worth seeing on the big screen. hmmm .. how about Rachel Leigh Cook? -
Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard
Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard is the only superstar scientist in Norway. Come to think of it, he's the only superstar scientist period. He's constantly on the TV-channel (the state owned TVPrawda), presenting astronomy in an extremely engergetic manner. He's kinda funny for an übernerd. Now you know. Achtung!
Janker dreper, pass på barna deres. -
Lawyer-fest!
After all of the ramifications and harm to innocent people this caused.
Independent artists use TPB. The Swedish record industry supports the raid. Oops?
About 100 to 1000 innocent firms were affected due to the raid by the police. Oops?
The Pirate Bureau which is a political party, was affected by the raid, which means that the media industry uses the Swedish justice system to close it down. Oops?
The legal advisor they used, who had nothing to do with TPB, was interrogated and forced to give his DNA?! WTF?
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Re:My understanding...This appears to be a recipe for what a former colleague called "data death", basically being drowned in more data than it would ever be possible to figure out how to make use of.
Even if they only log e-mails and TCP connections, what will they see? That over some period of time I get a few thousand spam mails from miscellaneous sources and a few hundred mails from various colleagues, family members, IEEE, and vendors? Or that I ssh into a machine here from work, and I have thousands of idiots banging away with their dictionary attack attempts on the ssh server here from all over the world? Or that a similar number of idiots are trying to crack the webserver by looking for files there that don't even exist? Or that I have long-lasting connections to two different IRC networks? Then occasional MSN connections; although I don't use that much, I know people with teenage kids who are on this all the time. Still, there will be no indication about what the contents of all this are. How the spam divides into money scams, pill-pushers, penis-improvements, breast-changes (yes, the spammers bother with sending both of these) and sales of fake Rolexes?
And then, the WEB, http, Port TCP 80, that part of the internet commonly confused with the internet at large. I go to read one of the general newspapers, and you can bet that there will be one indication of me looking at, say, http://www.vg.no/ and then a dozen looks at all the ad providers... Yeah, so I read VG on the network, like a couple other million others in this country. That's gonna be a helluva lot of mostly totally interesting data. Of course, not everything is quite as irrelevant as that: it can also reveal which bank I am using, and how often. Does anyone ever have a good reason to get to know this outside of a search warrant? I think not.
And what about UDP, such as is used for VOIP? that doesn't really make "connections" though it is possible, by inspecting the packages, to see the source and target address. But all it will say a million times over is that I have sent and received UDP packages from the VOIP provider's server... during some particular time period. Or if I used something like Skype, it would be to whoever else I talked to, like voice phone or SMS. Ere this legislation, there were requirements for a search warrant or surveillance warrant before this information could be made available.
So they will be able to see "when" and for the http at least, "with whom", given some filtering. Imagine that the post-office kept a journal of who posted and received mail, and when this happened? Same thing, just more work-intensive and expensive, and with the same slew of uninteresting info being produced. Though I think there are constitutional laws in most of the countries prohibiting this kind of logging, if it was ever thought of as not being just too unreasonable in terms of cost or manpower...
Thing is, the filtering can only make sense once the police or whoever is supposed to be able to obtain this information, knows what to look for. In the meantime there are going to be many terabytes per person per year -- there are 450 million people in the EU, even if only two-thirds were active, we're talking the need for storing on the order of 10^21 bytes worth of logs for the lot, for the 2-year storage time. I don't know what the total output of mass storage production is per year, but this would be some 10^12 DVDs, or 10^13 CDs, or 10^10 harddrives of 100 GB each... I don't know if such a large number of hard drives ever has been produced to date.
And never mind who is going to have to pay for this... Whether it is taxpayers though government or ISP's customers, it is going to be an enormous economic brake on all kinds of business when all money goes to purchasing and maintaining storage units and searching through them. And to what purpose? to find out who is the terrist before they actually blow something up? Not much use if you end up destitute in the process, only with a filled storage
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Wow...This is a nice change..
.. I mean, even thought it's nighttime over here and all, slashdot is actually reporting something before it's picked up on the major norwegian outlets ( vg blabla aftenpoften klassekampen dagsavisa -
Re:It's quite simple...
http://www.vg.no/ehere
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Re:What about sales?
A press release written by Eskil Sivertsen, he included von Tetzchner's statement as a joke. Don't know if you understand Norwegian, but here is more on the swimming trip. Sivertsen is actually rowing beside Jon.
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Re:Legality in US?
main stream press keep their daily schedule of reporting fairly amazingly trivial and non-important 'news
I call bullshit! The new INFOSOC compatible copyright law, made to comply with EEA, has been very well covered in the mainstream media in Norway. Just because it's not on the front page every day, ot's not equal to bad coverage. All the large papers have done several stories on the law. Like the ones here, here, here, here, here and here. -
Re:Legality in US?
main stream press keep their daily schedule of reporting fairly amazingly trivial and non-important 'news
I call bullshit! The new INFOSOC compatible copyright law, made to comply with EEA, has been very well covered in the mainstream media in Norway. Just because it's not on the front page every day, ot's not equal to bad coverage. All the large papers have done several stories on the law. Like the ones here, here, here, here, here and here. -
Re:Video?
You can see some pictures here. They're from a Norwegian newspaper.
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Article /w pictures
The same article was published with pictures here!
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Re:Note to self
According to a Norwegian paper VG (sorry, no translation) it has caused the American Embassy in Norway to file federal charges against the rap-group.
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Biggest newspaper in Norway quotes SlashdotThe most sold newspaper in Norway (which is also the country which sells the most newspapers per inhabitan) namely VG uses slashdot as reference in this story (link in norwegian):
In november, the OSCE will be monitoring local and state elections in Kazakhstan, Skopje, Eastern Congo, Ouagadougou and the United States, according to Slashdot.
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The Pope is Polish......and here is his mug. SCNR.
ObOnTopic: Poland voted for software patents only because Germany did.
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Multilingual audio files availableThe audio files on AEL are messy, because they only contain the English translation, and translators were, erhmmm, occasionally less than adequate ("we thank our heroic translators, they did a very difficult job, on a very technical subject, and despite the difficulties performed rather well,
... but thank you!")Fortunately, for those of you who speak some of the original languages (French, German, Polish, Italian,...), there is a dual-track version available here, were one channel is original language, and the other is the English translation.
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Multilingual ogg/vorbis available!The transcripts on AEL are messy, because they only contain the English translation, and translators were, erhmmm, occasionally less than adequate.
Fortunately, for those of you who speak some of the original languages (French, German, Polish, Italian,...), there is a dual-track version available here, were one channel is Original language, and the other is the English translation.
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Re:Picture this...
Funny... I think he looks more like Kenny Rodgers than Ronaldo
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Re:Picture this...
Funny... I think he looks more like Kenny Rodgers than Ronaldo
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More info about lawsuit
More in-depth info about the suit can be found here
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Re:THC slowdown
I usually see faces after I smoke too much pot! (Btw, is that an a or an e?)
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Starmatch.vg.no "exposes" the pope!
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No need to be a religious leader...
Some atheists bear a striking ressemblance too!
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Re:I tried it with a photo of Darl McBride
Don't worry, other religions get their's too!
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Re:I tried it with a photo of Darl McBride
Try playing around a little bit with the index, and it's getting very embarassing for the Catholic Church!
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Re:I tried it with a photo of Darl McBride
I tried it too, here is what I got...
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Man's Best Friend
I always knew there was something familiar about Alec Baldwin!
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To all non-TiVO people who didn't see the boobs.
Here are a few links to a page on Norways biggest Newspapers website that show all the picture uncensored and even have the uncensored movie of her. Oh yes, it also includes the streaker that nobody in the US saw.
Click on "Neste Bilde" to see the next picture
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To all non-TiVO people who didn't see the boobs.
Here are a few links to a page on Norways biggest Newspapers website that show all the picture uncensored and even have the uncensored movie of her. Oh yes, it also includes the streaker that nobody in the US saw.
Click on "Neste Bilde" to see the next picture
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Re:Odd...A journalist in VG found him in one day. From what I've heard, he just sent Nomad a mail.
Had the prosecution in this case been worth their salt, they would have identified him and asked German authorities to interrogate him.
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Re:No surprise here...I just read the ruling in full as well.
According to this article, she's going to think over whether or not she wants to appeal. Again, I have the feeling she will. After following both trials and her actions in general and from the information I have been given by former colleagues, this whole thing seems like one big personal agenda for her actually. However, for the sake of her name and career, she ought to learn when to stop...
I guess some people enjoy being humiliated over again, and over again, and...
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Re:Some nice things from the verdict
To follow up on myself, now that I have read the whole verdict, it seems clear that the above report is quite accurate.