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I know this is a joke but wasn't it semi-recently published that "666" is thought to be an invalid translation and the correct number is really "616" and/or "665"?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44169
http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm

The above are links from some quick googling. ;) I saw they were topical but didn't actually read them.

Ya I know...it spoils the joke. :(

Amero Currency and a North American Union, and the North American Superhighway.

My great grandfather fought for this country, my grandfather fought for this country, my father fought for this country, and my friends have fought for this country. So you can play the Veteran card and act like that has any real bearing on the situation, and I'll just go on stating the facts of the matter. Don't get me wrong; I respect your service to the greatest nation on the face of the Earth, but just as you have spared me no harsh words, I shall act accordingly.

You may not think that we found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but I'll tell you right now, you are WRONG. In Iraq alone they found 1.77 metric TONS of enriched uranium. They found 1,500 GALLONS of chemical weapons. They found 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin. Do you know what cyclosarin is? It's a deadly nerve agent with five times the effectiveness of sarin gas. But more importantly, they found 1,000 radioactive materials that are used in dirty bombs. Don't believe me? Well, CNN sure as hell won't cover that. MoveOn.org won't have that on their front page. And you damn well better believe that the Democrats did their best to cover that up.

I'll even post my sources. I'll be fully transparent in this, and I'll be ACCOUNTABLE for what I say... which is more than I can say for you, Anonymous Coward. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=38213 http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=10101&of fer=&hidebodyad=true http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/mariani/2 004/mariani052804.htm http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html

The red shift's present "generally accepted" interpretation is the doppler effect. If that is NOT what causes the red shift, then some other assumptions about the universe also become questionable.

Like for instance what if the speed of light wasn't a constant, and had been slowing down since the Big Bang?

one of many

No, but enforcing income tax is illegal - please read about Joe(Joseph) Banister, Larken Rose, and House Resolution 2525:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward295.htm
http://www.halexandria.org/dward294.htm
http://www.halexandria.org/dward293.htm
http://www.rense.com/general66/irstrial.htm
http://www.royalrife.com/banister.html
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005 -06-28.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44956

Inasmuch as Bill is calling for admitting more skilled immigrants and fewer unskilled immigrants, it's a step in the right direction.

Let's make an analogy between Harvard U. and the United States.

Harvard is extremely selective about who is admitted. As a result it has a stellar reputation. Imagine how quickly Harvard would go downhill if it started admitting high-school dropouts.

Similarly, because so many people want to emigrate to the U.S., it could be extremely selective about who it admits. For example, it could require immigrants to have a master's degree.

Instead, the U.S. isn't picky at all about who it lets in. Anyone with a pair of legs can walk across the border. The U.S. imports poverty, when it could instead import success and wealth. As a result, the social safety net has been strained beyond the breaking point in some places: more than 70 California emergency rooms have closed. And the number of Americans killed by illegal immigrants is far higher than the number of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Imagine how much schools, hospitals, and crime statistics would improve, and property values go up, if the U.S. were selective about immigrants.

Will the UN protocol include raping the meteor?

Sigh...do my fellow Americans understand basic civics anymore?

In a democracy...

Apparently not. America is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic.

Although your explanation seems reasonable and I tend to agree with you, your not understanding the form of government, and not looking up the answer (yes, I did look at North Carolina's Constitution), means I can't trust what you say.

Hillary's Rose Hill law firm was involved in relations between the NSA and the ill-fated Clipper Chip that her husband was pushing.

At this point, it's fairly evident that people will listen to the media of their choosing. If a large segment of the population is out of touch with reality because they think one source has it right and alllll the others are insane, it's really their fault, and our obligation to have to defend their right to speak and vote in a free society where their votes count just as much as ours. We just have to deal with it.

The politicians can try, but I don't see the solution coming from Washington no matter how well-intentioned its proponents may be. Do you want fair and balanced coverage and have some time to spare? Read a larger variety of news sources, from multiple countries, from multiple points of view. You will gain a sense of who's biased how, and make first-hand decisions about who is being more reasonable and honest.

I have my own sites that I follow. Some air a specific point of view, but listening only to the echo chamber will weaken your perspective. Here is one site that I think does a fantastic job of presenting a wide range of views for your consideration.

And then, here are the rounds I usually make:

BBC world news
Google News
The Daily Star, an English-language Lebanese newspaper
The New York Times
The Guardian, a British news source
Le Monde, the English edition
Al Jazeera's English language page, like it or hate it
World Net Daily, if you want to know what the Christian Right is up to

Now, good luck.

I say this as someone who really likes Kucinich and would vote for him anyday.

And ofcourse according to the Bush administration those people didn't have any freedom and couldn't enjoy the things we had here. Amazing how much of the official stories turn into pure falsified information whenever you're coming into contact with information residing from someone who actually lives in the region itself...

Well said. As many on Slashdot know, there are few things more important, or a greater demonstration of freedom, than playing games like Medal of Honor and Call of Duty, unless it is playing soccer or other sports. It is difficult to call Iraq during Saddam's rule anything but a "paradise" for everyone, from children to those of privilege, and even to Saddam's own family, like son-in-law Hussein Kamel . I don't know why everyone on Slashdot doesn't understand that. Maybe with a bit more education....

Pastor Franck Kabele, 35, told his congregation he could repeat the biblical miracle, and he attempted it from a beach in Gabon's capital of Libreville. "He took his congregation to the beach saying he would walk across the Komo estuary, which takes 20 minutes by boat. He walked into the water, which soon passed over his head and he never came back."

Interesting read...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44169

Ahh, the always insightful third party "experts" at WND come to the rescue. I appreciate that they warned me that tofu will make my children gay earlier this week, and I'm equally glad that they're here to warn me that, contrary to all mainstream sources and reason, the Chinese are planning to tank their economy by making exchange rate changes severe enough to cause us to change our currency.

The reality is, the Chinese prop up the dollar because it's good for exports, and they may reduce the degree to which they do it (due partially to US pressure to do so), but they're not going to simply dump dollar reserves and send our economy (and theirs) spiraling. Doing so would make no sense. And there is no conspiracy to create the Amero. The idea that there is may sell well to people who think that the UN is going to invade and make us all eat French cheeses and force us all into same sex marriages, but that's a whole different story.

I get the impression that a lot of these ideas stem from confusion as to what a central bank is supposed to do and how it is different from other banks.

Yes, it's possible to find anything you want in the old testament. I bet I could defend kitten killing somewhere in Job or Exodus or what-have-you. The thing is, being a Christian is a definition that varies as much as interpretation of the Bible. I really don't want to get into a religious interpretation discussion that I'll lose mostly because I don't care, but the New Testament and the Old Testament are opposed on many issues, and in my opinion the beliefs of the New should trump those professed in the Old. Being a Christian is about treating your fellow humans kindly and following the Golden Rule and all that. It's not about shouting over them until they believe what you do, or converting them to your faith or even opposing political goals.

The funniest part about Evangelicals is that they supposedly left the Church because they thought it was too political and beauraucratic, and yet look at what they've become. Superchurches with huge numbers of members, corrupt on money and power, and gasbags on television who spout crazy and incorrect statements. Just look at this and thisto see how dumb and intolerant they've become. It's the Catholic church of the Middle Ages all over again.

Keep in mind, I don't want to group all Evangelicals into this mess. There are a lot out there who really don't care as much about politics and such. But the ones in power and who appear on TV and the vocal minority really smear their name and the name of Christians everywhere and it's disgusting.

Sure ...Come into my country and torture me with experimental technology, I'll be forgiving.

I'll bet you think that Iraqis preferred Saddam's methods of dealing with dissent, and even the way he ran Abu Ghraib, don't you?

When you give people a hand, they tend to be grateful.

Animal Farm perfectly describes the Democrat's socialist policies. Animal farm did not entail the characters defending themselves against a threat to their freedom, rather, it entailed the animals being falsely lead to push for what they believed to be an expansion of their freedom, which was really only expansion the freedom of certain individuals, all at their expense. The ideas that people are not free if they cannot have an abortion and marry the same gender are perfect examples of that, as while social ruin ensures, the Democrats will reap the benefits of high office, much like what happened in animal farm, in which all semblance to a logical order was lost, and all that the pigs had to do was to convince the animals to get rid of the farmer so that they could be "free."

Despite that, there is a grain of truth to what you say. The recent changes in the United States and the subsequent cries for more control and less freedom can be quite clearly listed:

Roe vs. Wade - Legalized Abortion in all trimesters with Abortions in the Third Trimester allowed only if it is a threat to a woman's health
Doe V Bolton - Defined that an abortion is a threat to a Woman's Health if she feels unhappiness or social pressure
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry= 23148 - The ad is a cry against Proposition 90, which would have limited the California's exercise of eminent domain.
The Institution of Social Security
The Institution of Medicare
The Institution of Medicaid
The Institution of No Child Left Behind - The only item on this list that was pushed through by a Republican President, even though more Democrats voted for it than Republicans.
Cries for Socialized Health Care
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44589 - Cries that the Constitution must be replaced with a brand new Socialist Constitution
Cries by the Democrats that we need more taxes
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.d raft/ - Cries by Democrats to reinstate Conscription, a.k.a., "the Draft"

I could continue, but I think that is list is indicative of where the grains of truth in your statement lie.

Israel hasn't sworn to the destruction of any other states or ethnic groups.

And who has exactly?


How about this:

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News /2004/05/28/476115.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=41229

http://www.poe-news.com/stories.php?poeurlid=41572

Can a word be immoral?
Well, if you really want to pick nits, you could argue that a word cannot be any concept. It's a word... nothing more and nothing less. However, even a single word can represent an immoral concept.

... should a government-chosen domain registry be allowed to enforce their own moral code on the public.
A government should create a policy which clearly defines what is morally acceptible for it's people. How to do this is far beyond me. If individuals at the ".ie omain Registry" are coming up with their own definitions of what is acceptible, in the absence of clear policy, I would say that they are wrong. However, the blame falls on the government for creating a set of rules without a definition of terms. In the US, the principle of "separation of church and state" forces our moral baseline to be very basic... in spite of our glorious leader's perceived religious bias.

I am a Catholic American living in a country with an Islamic government (Malaysia). I suppose that gives me a unique perspective. I see examples of a similar problem in censorship of the media. It is common knowledge that words that are contrary to public policy or morally unacceptible will not be allowed in any media. The problem is the same: Neither the public policy, nor what the government deems morally unacceptible is clearly defined. As a result, I suppose it's left up to the people in charge of the TV/radio station, newspaper, magazine, etc... Because there are no clear rules, every offensive word makes it through occasionally. Also because of the lack of clear rules, many words that are clearly not offensive and a few that are just confusing are censored. Occasionally, the name Jesus is also censored. I suppose this is the religious bias of the person employed to censor the media.

Malaysia _claims_ to have freedom of religion. Their constitution even guarantees it, though there are some problems.

For the record, I disagree with _government_ censorship in almost every form.

By the way, I've just learned that the domain "porn.us" is available... "Offer $5 000 000.00 or more and your offer will be accepted."... quite a bargain, dontcha think :)

-- Ghodmode

What, the same WorldNetDaily that reports on such "news" as "Kerry tied to '666'?" or "Violence in Israel caused by 'gay' event?" Maybe you should replace "wee bit conservative" with something more appropriate, like "completely insane" or "totally unreliable"?

What, the same WorldNetDaily that reports on such "news" as "Kerry tied to '666'?" or "Violence in Israel caused by 'gay' event?" Maybe you should replace "wee bit conservative" with something more appropriate, like "completely insane" or "totally unreliable"?

Yeah, but don't let facts get in the way of conservative opinion:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/polls/index.asp?VIEW_ RESULTS=Y

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What are your thoughts about YouTube censoring videos with a conservative point of view?
Now that YouTube is owned by Google, we'll be seeing a lot more of this censoring
62.25% (1258)

Perhaps a boycott of YouTube advertisers would get someone's attention
18.75% (379)

YouTube is a private business - it doesn't have to be fair
6.33% (128)

Censorship only makes people want to see it more
4.21% (85)

I wouldn't mind as long as both sides were censored equally
2.92% (59)

Other
1.68% (34)

YouTube was just making itself more attractive to Google to make the $1.65 billion sale go through
1.29% (26)

YouTube's not censoring conservatives - this is just another example of the radical right whining when its message is rejected in the marketplace
1.14% (23)

The anti-Clinton ad wasn't 'censored' - it just required viewers to 1st verify their age
0.89% (18)

Good - I found the blocked videos offensive
0.54% (11)

TOTAL VOTES: 2021

are they censoring republicans too?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp ?ARTICLE_ID=52405

Here is one article. And another article from a right wing perspective, and yet another article from the left side of the aisle. Then there's this and this and this, too.

Any more objections?

Oh and about their prisoner harvesting?
http://www.american.edu/TED/prisonorgans.htm
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=1125056
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/harvestingorgansinc hina30mar06.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,,1756808,0 0.html
http://www.rense.com/general10/org.htm

Thank you very much and have a nice day.

You have a point to an extent since the Military Commissions Act of 2006 is an enabling act. Though I feel I need to elaborate on a couple of your points:

1. concentration camps: They have been building them for a long time. While they are increasing the number of them regularly, they already have a lot.

3. W. will not stay in power. He is a puppet (It is stupid to argue otherwise. Even if you support him and what he does, it wood be foolish to not think that he is a puppet of others controlling his "good" actions.).

4. We will not declare war on Mexico. We will join them and Canada in an "American Union", like the EU.

5. This is covered by #4.

Intelligence analysts involved in high-level discussions about the trailers noted that the technical team was among several groups that analyzed the suspected mobile labs throughout the spring and summer of 2003. Two teams of military experts who viewed the trailers soon after their discovery concluded that the facilities were weapons labs, a finding that strongly influenced views of intelligence officials in Washington, the analysts said. "It was hotly debated, and there were experts making arguments on both sides," said one former senior official who spoke on the condition that he not be identified.

The technical team's findings had no apparent impact on the intelligence agencies' public statements on the trailers. A day after the team's report was transmitted to Washington -- May 28, 2003 -- the CIA publicly released its first formal assessment of the trailers, reflecting the views of its Washington analysts. That white paper, which also bore the DIA seal, contended that U.S. officials were "confident" that the trailers were used for "mobile biological weapons production."

Now, in fairness, the article notes that the team whose report you track states:

That report said the trailers were "impractical for biological agent production," lacking 11 components that would be crucial for making bioweapons. Instead, the trailers were "almost certainly designed and built for the generation of hydrogen," the survey group reported.

But this article raises the startling idea that a second trailor may have been mated to the first for specific purposes. Hmmmmmm. I wonder if you could find any of those 11 missing components in a second trailor?

I wonder why they needed growth tanks to make "hydrogen"?*

Well, experts can disagree.

What can be taken as truth about "weapons-related program activities" after the biological weapons trailers story?

Two teams of experts agreed that they were bio-labs, one team didn't. You pick the didn't side to believe, and that seems to be the activity most open to questioning.

Most of the rest is much less squishy than the debate over the probable bio-weapons trailors, namely:

New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -- well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts betwe

Intelligence analysts involved in high-level discussions about the trailers noted that the technical team was among several groups that analyzed the suspected mobile labs throughout the spring and summer of 2003. Two teams of military experts who viewed the trailers soon after their discovery concluded that the facilities were weapons labs, a finding that strongly influenced views of intelligence officials in Washington, the analysts said. "It was hotly debated, and there were experts making arguments on both sides," said one former senior official who spoke on the condition that he not be identified.

The technical team's findings had no apparent impact on the intelligence agencies' public statements on the trailers. A day after the team's report was transmitted to Washington -- May 28, 2003 -- the CIA publicly released its first formal assessment of the trailers, reflecting the views of its Washington analysts. That white paper, which also bore the DIA seal, contended that U.S. officials were "confident" that the trailers were used for "mobile biological weapons production."

Now, in fairness, the article notes that the team whose report you track states:

That report said the trailers were "impractical for biological agent production," lacking 11 components that would be crucial for making bioweapons. Instead, the trailers were "almost certainly designed and built for the generation of hydrogen," the survey group reported.

But this article raises the startling idea that a second trailor may have been mated to the first for specific purposes. Hmmmmmm. I wonder if you could find any of those 11 missing components in a second trailor?

I wonder why they needed growth tanks to make "hydrogen"?*

Well, experts can disagree.

What can be taken as truth about "weapons-related program activities" after the biological weapons trailers story?

Two teams of experts agreed that they were bio-labs, one team didn't. You pick the didn't side to believe, and that seems to be the activity most open to questioning.

Most of the rest is much less squishy than the debate over the probable bio-weapons trailors, namely:

New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -- well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts betwe

Here's Kerry being called a communist by "Vietnam Veterans against John Kerry": ...a much-celebrated organizer for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), one of America's most radical pro-communist groups. http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm

Here's Kerry being called a traitor by the author of the book "Taking America Back": There is only one word in the English language... That word is "traitor." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=41169

Huh, how about that?

On top of it, they never mention how US military overseas from Florida specifically (that overwhelmingly vote republican) didn't get their absentee ballots

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=15597
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/News/20001128-1.html
http://www.cwv.org/milvote/milvote.htm
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1 1/20/military.ballots/index.html
http://www.uhuh.com/laws/milivote.htm
http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A2901_0_2_0_C/
http://www.mcsm.org/vetsvote.html

Of course. Ready to be rudely awaken? Granted, these are sentences handed down from state courts, not federal.

Judge - No prison time for child rapist

Sex Offender ruled too short for Prison

Man rapes child for 10 years. Gets no prison time

Child Rapist gets 60 days in prison

And I could go on and on and on. You want to see how many years the proclaimed "Worst Child Rapists" gets? Twenty years. Not life. Twenty. fucking. years. Worst Ever Rapist gets 20 Years I do write to the senators of my state when things like this happen. I would implore those of you who live in states from these above articles to also write your representatives. I'm sure I'll be modded off-topic, but this is worth arguing over.

Sure thing. the zinc mine is well known and very verifiable--google "al gore zinc mine"

for the others, let's google "al gore green energy" ... we get a couple nice links:

USA Today (same article was rn elsewhere as well)
Worldned daily

and many others.

I found these articles in about three minutes: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page =/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=45203 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=37981 KAREN SCHALER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since October, more than 800,000 illegal aliens have been caught trying to sneak across the U.S.-Mexico border. Close to 10 percent aren't from Mexico, creating serious homeland security concerns. SEN. JON KYL (R), ARIZONA: We're concerned about terrorists coming across the border because of the huge increases in other than Mexicans, people coming from abroad through Mexico, across our southern border. We know that al Qaeda specifically desires to bring people across this border.

I found these articles in about three minutes: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page =/SpecialReports/archive/200608/SPE20060821a.html http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=45203 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=37981 KAREN SCHALER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since October, more than 800,000 illegal aliens have been caught trying to sneak across the U.S.-Mexico border. Close to 10 percent aren't from Mexico, creating serious homeland security concerns. SEN. JON KYL (R), ARIZONA: We're concerned about terrorists coming across the border because of the huge increases in other than Mexicans, people coming from abroad through Mexico, across our southern border. We know that al Qaeda specifically desires to bring people across this border.

I don't think actual facts or links will change your mind on this manner because you are an apologist for israel but just in case I am wrong here we go.

First of all read this article by Patrich Buchanan. Here are some quotes from that article.

""Everyone in southern Lebanon is a terrorist and is connected to Hezbollah," roared Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon on July 27"

"The Israeli paper then summarized what the justice minister and general were saying: "In other words, a village from which rockets are fired at Israel will simply be destroyed by fire." That was Thursday."

""One who goes to sleep with rockets shouldn't be surprised if he doesn't wake up in the morning," said Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Dan Gillerman."

So there are three quotes by highly places israeli diplomats telling the world in no uncertain terms that they intend to kill civillians. We know by know that they were telling the truth because they carried out their threats and destroyed entire villages and displaced a million people.

Furthermore Israel USED CLUSTER BOMBS INSIDE CITIES which are designed to cause maximum damage to civillians. If you want to avoid civillian deaths you don't use cluster bombs inside of cities. You act like a man and send your army in there. Only cowards or sadists drop cluster bombs inside of a city to try and get a handful of terrorists.

Finally there is this damning report by amnesty international.

I could sit here all day and pull out one link after another but as I said I don't expect you to actually read any of this or to let any of these facts penetrate your head. You are an apologist for this regime and you are incapable of thinking or saying anything negative about them. Certainly google is available to you just like it's available to me.

"I think there is an equal amount of culpability to be shared by all sides in this."

Really? Equal? Exactly 50/50? Does the fact that hezbollah killed more soldiers then civillians and israel killed more civillians then soldiers make a difference at all?

"I just think that we are better served in discussion if we stick to things that actually happened."

Yes lets to do that. You want to start with the 15,000 kidnapped and imprisoned arabs rotting in israeli dungeons without trials, juries, charges or lawyers? You want to start with the regime of torture? Or perhaps you want to start with these stats?

Anyone who even sets a foot into best buy is taking a dangerous chance.

or do you buy into the bullshit that the muslims simply hate our way of life and freedom and must kill us all because of TCBY, naked womens ankles, and eating pork?

It's not BS if it's an established fact. And yes, they do hate naked womens ankles and pork. Read the Quran sometime. It makes references to those things being forbidden.

You might want to check out this article. Hell with that, just check out this website. Not that you would ever read it. Having your world view shattered would be like...letting the boy out of his bubble. No, we can't have that now can we?

The proposal is more about exploiting fear to make gobs of money. From another article written in 2002(at least I think it was. I honestly can't tell since it's on today's page of the site. However it is more enlightening than the summary article.), "FDA approval could take years, and we can start making money off of this thing now!" . I don't know whether scream, DUPE!, or simply say thanks for the reminder(not that anybody who can will do anything about it). On another note, does the yro section have any good news? I'm sure the warhawks and wannabe warlords out there(you know who you are...freaks) consider this good news, but I'm talking about good news for righteous, conscientious people who believe individual freedoms.

For people who have Morgellons, these boards can hurt, but they are an honest reflection of how people are. I've been reading the message boards for Morgellons for over a year, looking for answers that I could not get from an Infectious Disease doctor and Dermatologist, and found boards to be supportive and helpful. This board is interesting, and people do examine all sides of an issue.

For those who'd like some more information on Morgellons, I'd like to share this brief interview with Dr. Wymore, who is researching the fibers and "scabs" of Morgellons patients. He shares his findings to date, and some thoughts about the patients and their doctors.

http://www.morgellons.org/rwupdate.html

If you cannot listen to the interview, Ever Hopeful's website has photos and a history of Delusions of Parasitosis. It is the DOP concept that seems to be the brick wall in getting doctors to listen or do examinations:

http://www.dpref.com/index.html

From Alabama, an recent article and television clip - Leigh Ann and her family give an interview, please "click" the video if you have a fast connection. It is a behind-the-scenes look into what happens to Morgellons sufferers:

http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKR G/MGArticle/KRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=11378 36251643

From Los Angeles, California - In the news on May 19th, and May 20th, 2006 in the Archive - make sure you watch the clip in the archive and not the shorter "tease" clip. It should include interviews with people in the archived chip - will have to go back several pages to the 20t:

http://cbs2.com/video/?id=18783@kcbs.dayport.com

This story was followed up with Part Two on Monday, May 22nd, featuring an interview with a family who is suffering this disease, as well as a perfect example of the typical smugness experienced with Dermatologists convinced this is DOP, via an interview with a UCLA Dermatologist included in this news segment. In this story, the mother has tested positive for Lyme, and the children have not been tested for Lyme disease because the family could not afford it. Morgellons is very likely a systemic disease, involving the whole body. Not doing any tests and simply declaring this to be a delusion delays treatment.

From Portland, Oregon - May, 2006:

The written article:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_051806_n ews_sweeps_strange_sickness_morgellons.53b2569a.ht ml

There is a video clip of an Oregon doctor who caught Morgellons disease who is interviewed, however I only have a tiny url link for it and that is at:

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board =rash&action=display&thread=1147886482&page=2

From Texas - May, 2006

The article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a...E_ID =50195

Again, a follow up story in Texas:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYS A052206.morgellonsfolo.KENS.12913d3a.html

Excerpt quoted: " . . . The story has received tens of thousands of page views on the MySanAntonio.com
The story was how Les Coble of Pleasanton found out he was not alone.

"God, I'm not crazy, there are other people with this,"

In May 2005, Google rejected an attempt by the conservative activist group RightMarch.com to run ads critical of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., while continuing to run attack ads against besieged House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.
Try searching for Tom DeLay, see what ads pop up on the right. Then try searching for Hillary Clinton.

Expect to see ads for Democratic nominees in the next election, but don't expect to see any for Republicans (Google will run ads criticizing republicans, but not democrats).

Sorry, don't mean to turn this into a political discussion, but with all the Chinese censorship, and all the stuff I've been reading about liberal bias at Google, I find it harder and harder to be sympathetic towards them.

Don't hate me for having a different opinion. We should be encouraging discourse, not shouting down viewpoints we disagree with.

Expect to see ads for Democratic nominees in the next election, but don't expect to see any for Republicans (Google will run ads criticizing republicans, but not democrats).

Sorry, don't mean to turn this into a political discussion, but with all the Chinese censorship, and all the stuff I've been reading about liberal bias at Google, I find it harder and harder to be sympathetic towards them.

Don't hate me for having a different opinion. We should be encouraging discourse, not shouting down viewpoints we disagree with.

Microsoft just shuts them down:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=48199

...now, how about stopping attempts to require microchip implants (PDF link; sorry) in livestock which would render the few remaining family farms untenable and complete agritech's stranglehold on our food supply.

Unfortunately, this is merely a puff piece trying to gloss over the radicialization of Islam. Many of those folks ARE pieceful, but they're being lead by a bunch of lunatics that want to bomb everything in sight.

Oh, and they missed using Jets to bring down major buildings in New York. Although, to be fair, Tom Clancy came up with that idea earlier.

And they missed killing people for writing things they don't like (Rushdie) and drawing things they don't like (the recent editorial comic scare), but again, they didn't invent that either... they just revived it.

Sounds like the speeches I heard in San Francisco last time I was there. "You don't agree with us, therefore you're a idiot that doesn't deserve to live!" Yeah, everything's fine if you agree with them...but if you don't, look out..

Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated strikes. Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. It may include dramatic strikes, visible on TV, and covert operations, secret even in success. We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.

Indeed, that's why all World War 2 vets are actually terrorists. It doesn't matter if your enemy is the loathsome Nazis or headed by a self-proclaimed deity on earth (Imperial Japan) who invaded China and killed millions of Chinese.

Sadly, many people really do think this way.

"The United States, she said, has "very serious concerns" about the protection of privacy and data throughout the Internet globally."

WHAT???? First of all, define "privacy."

The US government's definition of "privacy" includes mandating that health records be computerized and forced to be shareable and data-mineable BY THE US GOVERNMENT over the Internet (as usual, all in the name of "terrorist" mitigation).

Read the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 if you want to see in statute some of the requirements for complete loss of medical privacy.

There is plenty of discussion on the Internet about how HIPAA's Privacy Rule was actually a regulation which DECREASED privacy ... but HIPAA only technically governed medical BILLING records. What is coming next is far, far, worse, the entirety of your medical records computerized, on-line, and subject to governmental data-mining.

Want to start fresh with a new doctor and not let him see your previous prescription records? See this article for some details about your loss of prescription privacy:

http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle. aspx?type=governmentFilingsNews&storyID=URI:urn:ne wsml:reuters.com:20060214:MTFH52561_2006-02-14_00- 11-10_N13290984:1

Want to see how Washington is removing privacy protections based on 100+ year old state laws? See "YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE ... Health technology bill could weaken privacy - Critics say measure may preempt state laws protecting confidentiality"

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=48775

I googled up the UN convention on the child and was surprised to find advocacy organizations insisting that circumcision is a human rights violation. The Convention also apparently says that spanking is to be banned.

Now there is certainly child abuse out there and parents can abuse their children but when a UN committee says that Canada should ban all physical punishment, no matter how slight, something about this particular convention is just strange.

Here's the quote:
The conventions "explicitly prohibit all forms of violence against children, however light, within the family, in schools and in other institutions where children might be placed." Canada's existing legislation allowing parents to use reasonable force to discipline their children is apparently a violation of the rules.

In practice, a child who insists on running out and playing in traffic is going to be physically disciplined. It might be forceful restraint, a shake, a jerk, or a swat on the bottom. To do otherwise is child abuse. Other countries are comfortable in having laws criminalizing parents for doing their job. I'm glad the US is not such a country.

Source

Although "hate-crime" legislation has been championed by minority groups in hopes it would discourage racially motivated crime, a recently released FBI crime report reveals that a higher percentage of blacks than whites are charged with race-biased "hate crimes." The FBI's "Hate Crime Statistics" for 1999 show that 2,030 whites were arrested that year for "hate crimes" against blacks, compared to 524 blacks who were arrested and charged with a "hate crime" against whites. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, blacks make up 12.8 percent of the population -- or about 35.4 million of the country's 280 million people -- so, given the arrest rate versus population percentage, the data indicates that blacks are one-and-a-half times more likely to be arrested for a "hate crime" than whites. The Census Bureau's November 2000 statistics listed the nation's white population at 226.8 million, or 82.2 percent of the total.

So there you go. Make of it what you will.

Well... you make an interesting point, but the difference between the two cargos is clear. Any operation like the Mexican tunnel you talk about cannot be the product of one individual, or even a handful of like-minded individuals. It's going to be the result of a concerted effort of something like an organized drug cartel. In theory I guess it's possible that a terrorist group operating on North American soil could be sufficiently organized to pull off an anthrax-smuggling operation like you describe. It's just very unlikely.

Or they could just Hire the Drug Cartel, couldn't they? After all, what does it matter to MS-13, who ran this tunnel, what the hell they're smuggling as long as they get paid for it?