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Who is the Best Registrar?

luge asks: "I've been looking around at a couple of NSI's new competitors (register.com, for example), and the information on their pages about services and pricing for them is underwhelming at best. I also haven't been able to find any good comparisons on the Web. So, in the experience of the /. community, what is the best registrar to go through for my new Web site? I'm particularly interested in interim services- i.e., I want to grab a few domains now but won't have a good connection/hosting situation for a few months yet, so I'm interested in what options there are for services like URL and e-mail forwarding. Of course, pricing is probably paramount, but ease of manageability is important too- once I get my hosting situation settled, I want to be able to switch over quickly and easily. Any suggestions?"

And the ever continuing quest to look for a decent replacement for NSI continues, and as far as I can tell via various rumors and experiences of other folks, this may not be a bad thing at all. We've handled a similar Ask Slashdot, but it's been four months since that was posted and I figure it's high time to revisit the topic since I still get a lot of these sorts of questions in the submissions bin.

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  1. Joker.com by twjordan · · Score: 2
    I have now bought several domains from joker.com. Once you figure out their kind of funky interface it is REALLY cool! You can change a lot of things through forms online with your username/password that would take a lot more hassle through NSI. Furthermore, it only costs 15 dollars if you are int he US and you can register for only a year if you like. They will provide DNS service for a small charge as well if you need it.

    The only drawback I have found is that CORENic doesn't really seem to telly uo how to claim ownership over the DNS servers people have entered into joker and gotten handles for. As a result, my ISP doesn't get notification when I buy a domain. Does anyone know how to fix this?

    1. Re:Joker.com by gleam · · Score: 3

      I must agree that joker.com is the best registrar I've used, by far. Register.com is more than double the price, and, while it provides dns services free, the service is poor. Changes to your records take 12-24 hours, and I've never seen one take less than 6. That's more than unacceptable, for many of us.

      But here's what I've taken to doing... check out ultradns.

      They're currently in beta, but you can get both a primary and secondary nameserver space from them, with a very nice, clean, secure interface, for free. (as long as it is a personal/non-commercial domain name)

      You can have up to four of these, and the interface is both easy and powerful, so the advanced DNS hackers will be able to modify anything they need.

      I've also found that changes go through ultradns in between 15 and 60 minutes, usually on the lower end. That's very nice, especially if you have a semi-dynamic IP.

      I just registered a domain through joker.com, with dns from ultradns, and it's wonderful. My first domain was registered at register.com, and I just recently switched that domain to ultradns as well.

      That, of course, brings up another problem with register.com: they don't allow zone transfers. I lost all my zone information, and had to rebuild it all. It was very icky, but it worked, and I definitely don't regret it. 95% reduction in response time is worth it for a 10 minute hassle.

      Just my two cents, although it seems more like two dollars...

      -Ed Fisher

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    2. Re:Joker.com by paulschreiber · · Score: 1
      I manage several dozen domains, either for myself, work or friends. Let me tell you, dealing with Network Solutions is a huge pain in the ass. My original hosting company put in the wrong email address when they set up my domain, and it took me over a month to get that sorted out. This included several faxes to virginia.

      I'm still using them for some domains that someone else (argh) registered. Filing change requests via email sucks.

      joker.com has been wonderful. Changes I make show up in whois in five minutes. Being able to do it from the web is great. A while ago, they didn't have any form for changing your registration email, so I emailed them. Less than a day later, the form was up on the site.

      Oh yeah, the $15 a year is pretty damned good, too.

    3. Re:Joker.com by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      I've been very pleased with the service I've received from joker.com. I have two domains, one registered through Network Solutions and one through joker.com. With the first one, any changes take about a week to take effect. I made a change on the second domain and it too effect in 15 minutes (not counting the time it takes for the DNS information to actually propagate to other DNS server on the 'Net, of course).

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  2. www.nic.cx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


    They rock - the lame .com registrars should take
    notice.

    Mark

    1. Re:www.nic.cx by kwsNI · · Score: 1
      I really like Dotster. My LUG got a domain (dialug.org)for $15.

      You can also get free domain parking at http://www.parkpage.com/

      kwsNI

  3. Who knows? by Metameme · · Score: 1

    Any registrar can't be worse than ol' NSI. That is not, of course, saying that the others are any good....

  4. Register.com by Amphigory · · Score: 2
    I've been very happy with Register.com so far. While they are a bit cheezy and the same $$ as NSI, they offer a service that I really appreciate: they provide DNS servers. This can be a real pain in the neck, because, too often, the hosting providers don't know what the heck they are doing.

    Also, it let's me be absolutely sure that I own the DNS, since the ISP never touches it. This may seem paranoid, but I've been burned before by these ISP's who will "manage your domain name".

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    1. Re:Register.com by auntfloyd · · Score: 2


      On the other hand, register.com charges $35 a year, which is the high end of prices now.

      But, I will agree that register.com does make it easy to manage DNS settings. And I also reccomend managing that yourself, if you're up to it. They also will "park" your domain, meaning that attempts to visit http://www.yourdomain.com will result in getting a "we're moving in soon" message (covered in register.com ads, to be sure).

      Just because of prices, I'm not sure if I'd go with them again, but if you can afford it, the services that they offer are worth it.

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    2. Re:Register.com by phutureboy · · Score: 2

      I've registered a handful of domains through register.com so far, and while the forms and pricing are very friendly, I did have a rather unpleasant experience when I had to contact their customer service about renumbering my nameservers. I never did get a satisfactory resolution on the issue. I would have been completely and extremely SOL if my ISP hadn't let me keep my old IPs along with my new ones, because register.com NEVER DID GET BACK TO ME.

      On a related note, what is the deal with this new thing where you have to register your nameservers?
      I don't recall ever having had to do that before.

    3. Re:Register.com by Mr.+Pinchy · · Score: 2

      I've registered a domain names through register.com, and helped a friend do it as well. I _would_not_ recommend them for anybody who intends to do the DNS themselves. I had problems with every single registration attempt.

      The first time I tried, their system was unable to accept the names and IP addresses of my authoritative name servers. This took several phone calls ("what's an authoritative name server?" they asked), e-mails, and well over a week to get it straightened out.

      Similar problems with the friend's attempt. Changes to the authoritative name servers didn't "stick," they registered two machines on my network which were not name servers as name servers (don't ask me how/why they did this), the answer to several of my increasingly impatient responses with thier reps was "why don't you just let us handle the DNS." This took ten days before everything was working properly.

      A request for a refund, "if you can't make this work, I'm sure I can find someone who can" was denied, "we don't give refunds, you'll just have to work through this with us."

      I'll tell you, I won't work with with them at all any more.

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    4. Re:Register.com by netpig · · Score: 1

      I agree.

      I bought my domain from one guy and tried
      to change it's authorative IP addresses.

      They have web forms for such thing and
      you should be able to change IP addresses
      of your servers. This is what manual says,
      and even have pictures in it.

      When I tried to do so, there isn't that link
      whose picture is in manual! I then contacted
      them several times and got nothing else than
      automated answers - which promise replays/
      changes in 5 hours.

      I did this at one PM Friday and now at sunday,
      nothing has done. They might be online only
      at business time, but their automated systems
      suck anyway. That's what those are for - changes
      outside the business time!

      They also say that confirmations for changes
      will be sent to my email address. They don't
      fill To: field when it won't penetrate my
      SPAM-filters.

      QUESTION:
      What if I want to move my domain to an another
      registrant? Is it possible or do they own my
      domain somehow?

      I'm getting a bit fustrated with this shit
      already after one week wondering and fiddling.

      Jii

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    5. Re:Register.com by mattmattwa · · Score: 1

      I would agree with the previous post. I've registered two domains though register.com, the first of which I planned to handle the DNS myself. It was a complete nightmare. I had the same problem where changes to the authoritative name servers didn't stick. I finally gave up and hosted DNS with them. Once I did this, everything was a breeze. My advice would be this: If you want to host DNS yourself, do not go with register.com. If you don't mind having your DNS hosted through your registrar, go with register.com. They offer a great interface for managing your domain and DNS settings (including MX records) and I've found their service to be reasonably reliable.

    6. Re:Register.com by phutureboy · · Score: 1

      This is EXACTLY the problem I had. I guess I'm not the only one then, huh?

      Their customer service reps kept referring me to some screen with options that just aren't there.

      I sent them screenshots and everything to prove it wasn't there, but they kept referring me to the same screen. Maddening.

      Then I got a 'how are we doing?' customer service questionaire from the president, so I told him. Still nothing. That was months ago.

      The problem is that I HAVE to host my own DNS, because I have hosts other than www, like mail, secure, stage, etc. AFAIK, their DNS will only point to 'domain.com' and 'www.domain.com'.

      FYI, I did find some 'Host registration form' on Network Solutions page which seems to be related to the problem we're having. Go to networksolutions.com -> forms -> expert to see it.

      I really would like to find a solution to this so I can give the old IPs back to my provider.

    7. Re:Register.com by krogoth · · Score: 1

      I dont know if you didn't have to do it before, but the nameservers are what link you domain name to the IP address. Without a nameserver, your domain name doesn't work
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      On a related note, what is the deal with this new thing where you have to register your nameservers? I don't recall ever having had to do that before.
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    8. Re:Register.com by WolfSoul30 · · Score: 1

      I had a similiar problem, but it wasn't with Register.com, but the hosting company that I decided to use. They couldn't transfer/activate the domain because their scripts only checked the database with Network Solutions. They sent me the DNS names and IP addresses and I changed them through management of my account on Register.com's website. Other than this little holdup, everything went smoothly as far as Register.com was concerned.

  5. Other domains... by pb · · Score: 1

    Although I think it's pure evil, you can always get domains in tonga (.to) or niue (.nu).

    It's the internet equivalent of a "1-888" number, except that in this case, it's the little countries that sold out. However, maybe your name won't be taken...
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    1. Re:Other domains... by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 3

      I personally prefer .cx, myself; they're cheaper, have great service, VERY nice policies (particularly when it comes to namespace conflicts such as in the case of trademark disputes - they'll only remove/freeze a registration with a court order), and, recently, have taken to providing free service for free(speech) and open source software projects.
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    2. Re:Other domains... by baldusi · · Score: 1

      I don't feel bad about using their services. tonic.to in fact was fast, easy to use and a great experience (albeit a bit expensive one). On the plus side there are words in Spanish or other latin languages that end in to so you can have a domain like juan.sos.recho.to which is a sentence neatly separated by dots. Quite nice if you ask me.

    3. Re:Other domains... by pb · · Score: 1

      Very cool. Also, it's a registrar that ends in a register, (x86, that is...) and that's what counts. :)
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  6. The Selections... by kcarnold · · Score: 4

    The list of accredited ICAAN registars is at InterNic.net. This is just to let you know the alternatives, and if some registration company is really allowed to register domains.

  7. Simplest Registrar? by --delphi-- · · Score: 1

    What I really want to know is which registrar provides the least amount of services. You may find this wierd, but I like doing things myself. I've found that that's the only way to get things done right. I like to host my own own servers, I like setting up things on my *nix boxes myself. Anyone who provides email for my domain is going way too far. That's my responsibility, my perogative. So, here's my question, who out there has the cheapest service with the least amount of services. All I want is my domain registered and that's pretty much it. Maybe they could put me on their DNS servers, but that would be an added plus.

    1. Re:Simplest Registrar? by frinkster · · Score: 1

      I registered with Register.com. The minimum they require are the addresses of your DNS servers. If thats all you want them to do, thats all that they'll do. I have granitecanyon.com doing my DNS (they do it for free) and I dont have any mail services at my domain - all it does is serve web pages (Thats all I want it to do - for now).

    2. Re:Simplest Registrar? by ibbey · · Score: 2

      With the aforementioned http://joker.com you do everything yourself at $15 per year. If you want them to provide one or more name servers add $6 per year/per NS (Though you can get free DIY nameservers at http://soa.granitecanyon.com). I've got half a dozen servers registered through them without a hitch. I wholeheartedly recommend them.

    3. Re:Simplest Registrar? by quonsar · · Score: 1

      They're reasonably quick, and their site is fairly easy to sue as well.

      Priceless! A Freudian typo?

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  8. Maybe this will help by unitron · · Score: 2

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/02/26/20312 10&cid=28This post

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    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

    1. Re:Maybe this will help by unitron · · Score: 1

      --the #$%@^% submit and preview buttons are *really* too close together.
      This post from the ICANN story thread may be of some help.

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      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  9. register.com vs. Network Solutions by yamla · · Score: 4
    One of my domains is registered through register.com and the other through Network Solutions.

    The register.com folks have always been helpful, even calling long-distance to Canada to resolve a problem I was having with them. Also, making changes to the domain name information takes place almost immediately.

    Contrast this to Network Solutions. It can take up to three days to get information changed in their database and they often seem to ignore messages requesting support.

    I would definitely choose register.com over Network Solutions in the future. Of course, with the other, cheaper, companies out there, register.com may now have a run for their money.

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    1. Re:register.com vs. Network Solutions by aliebrah · · Score: 1
      I'm surprised. I live in Hong Kong and I found NSI to be very helpful. So much to the extent that not only did they have quick support, but they always offered to call me back in Hong Kong so that I would not have to pay long distance charges to call them.

      I call that great service. I've had a good experience with NSI. But they are very expensive compared to other registrars so I'm thinking of switching.

    2. Re:register.com vs. Network Solutions by SNACKeR · · Score: 1

      It has been a week since I have requested my domain transfer from my current provider to Pair networks. I submitted a template for the change generated by Pair. Network Solutions sent an auto-reply that they received my request, but nothing has happened since. Both Pair and Network Solutions have ignored my e-mails regarding this, which I sent several days ago. This is a frustrating experience.

  10. OpenSRS by mattdm · · Score: 5
    OpenSRS (sponsored by Tucows) is probably the coolest thing out there. $10/year for a domain name ($9 of which goes to NSI). Of course, you then need to do a lot of the work yourself -- they work as a wholesaler, rather than end-user sales. Basically, they make it easy to set yourself up as a registrar. Or, do a search for "OpenSRS" and find some places using their service to do the work for you.

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    1. Re:OpenSRS by dexev · · Score: 2

      I just finished getting my business set up as an OpenSRS affiliate. I wouldn't recommend it if you're only going to be registering 1 or 2 domains -- for one thing, they make you prepay for at least 25. It's also a bit of work to get approved by them (they require you to take a test). But $10/year for a domain is pretty much free, and they give you (*and* your end-users) a lot more control over your domain information than NSI does.

    2. Re:OpenSRS by Balfazar · · Score: 1

      I've been watching for a nice $11-$12 OpenSrs affiliate since OpenSrs was announced (since I need like 2 domains, not 25). One thing
      that puzzles me is that when you go to OpenSrs, they give plenty of details about becoming an affiliate, but no links to current affiliates.

      How do I find OpenSrs affiliates?
      (I can find Tucows affiliates from tucows pages, but none of them seem to have any info about domain registration.)

      Thanks for any info...

    3. Re:OpenSRS by tomblackwell · · Score: 3

      The OpenSRS affiliate I use is www.domainmonger.com. They cost $17 per year, but if you buy more years, the price declines. I have been very happy with what they do and how their site works. It's very simple, but it allows you to get a domain quickly and cheaply.

      Note: OpenSRS domains take about 2 days to propagate through to whois and other registrars. If you think it isn't working, just give it one more day. It has never failed for me.

    4. Re:OpenSRS by jshindl · · Score: 1

      I've just finished setting up my business with OpenSRS. I would ABSOLUTLEY recommend this for any of you who run web hosting or designing companies. We reviewed the costs we incur for domain registrations, and found this to be a significant cost savings (not to mention the fact that we can easily override to make DNS modifications if our domain customer forgets the password -- no more having to spend time on the phone with the registrar [NSI, etc..] to resolve these issues) The fee is $10/year, but if you register more than 20 domains, you get $2/domain back in the form of a quaterly rebate. NSI now charges only $6 to OpenSRS, so they make $2/domain even after the rebate. This isn't for the casual net user, but really useful for those of us who register domains frequently.

    5. Re:OpenSRS by yetisalmon · · Score: 1

      This has nothing to do with OpenSRS, but...I see posts all the time that i like and that would be VERY useful to me, but dont have time to save them, or to write them down. I think it would be a great idea if you could save posts to a personal 'folder' or 'profile' so you can come back to them. Anyone else?

    6. Re:OpenSRS by aozilla · · Score: 1

      only $6 of it goes to NSI

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  11. Cheap web hosting and domain parking. by nxs973 · · Score: 1

    Register.com is not bad but I use networksolutions For FREE web hosting and domain parking, go to http://www.neotek.cc They have a Linux boxes and NT w/ FP2000 extensions. You can't beat free :)

  12. Question Regarding DNS by --delphi-- · · Score: 1

    Here's a question I'm hoping the /. community can help me with. When you register a domain, youre just buying the rights to a domain, right? Or wrong? I'm trying to figure out where the DNS comes in. Why do I need DNS servers? Is it so I tell them my site name and IP and then they put it in their database and then the information gets sent to all the other DNS servers in the world. Are we updating people's DNS servers everytime we request a page that our DNS server is unsure about and and then has to query another DNS server out there until it finds an answer? Or does the DNS that I would need have to do with all the subdomains I would add to my domain. This is all really confusing to me and I could use some answers.

    1. Re:Question Regarding DNS by Julyen · · Score: 1

      I'm also running through this kind of questions right now. I want to setup my web, mail, ftp, etc. server at home with a domain name, and I've got some difficulties figuring this all out.

      As far as I know, DNS servers "worldwide" use a cache system, which is refreshed only once every 24 hours or so, so if you have a dynamic IP address... your domain (mail, web, etc.) might be unavailable for as long as 24 hours every time your IP is changed. If you have a static IP but no DNS you can use www.granitecanyon.com which provide free DNS.

      For the time being I will try to use domainforwarding, which handle all the DNS stuff for you and redirect any request (http and mail) to addresses you specify (e.g. www.isp.com/~user, user2399@hotmail.com, etc.).

      If anybody knows how to do a setup using free DNS + static IP (cable or DSL modem), let us know!

      Final note: if you only want to "reserve" a domain name, I think (but I'm not sure?) you still must have DNS servers. It is called "parking" a domain name, some companies offer this service.

      Julyen
    2. Re:Question Regarding DNS by dexev · · Score: 3

      When you register a domain, youre just buying the rights to a domain, right? Or wrong? I'm trying to figure out where the DNS comes in.

      DNS is a distributed database system. Everybody who owns a domain name is responsible for keeping their domain's entries in the database correct and up to date. You can do this yourself, or pay your ISP to do it. When you go to a URL, you ask your (or your ISP's) DNS for the IP address of the site. If the server knows the IP, it tells you. If it doesn't know the IP, it has to ask somebody else.

      This is where the registrars come in. They maintain the "root servers" which basically keep a list of all the domains that are registered, and the DNS servers that contain the information about that domain. When you register a domain, you're paying for an entry in these "root servers".

      When somebody else looks for your domain name, their DNS server asks one of the root servers where they can find the information, and the root server points it to your DNS server. Their DNS server then asks your DNS server for the information, and your DNS server gives it to them. That's why you need a DNS server.

      Are we updating people's DNS servers everytime we request a page that our DNS server is unsure about and and then has to query another DNS server out there until it finds an answer?

      Yes.

    3. Re:Question Regarding DNS by twl · · Score: 1

      one thing that wasn't covered by the other answering post: the time to update information in the DNS isn't fixed at 24 hours. it can be as little or as much as you want; you set it in the configuration file for a DNS zone.

      if you expect a host to move around a lot, set the time-to-live low (180 seconds maybe). if it's an established host that doesn't change, make it 24 hours, say, or longer.

    4. Re:Question Regarding DNS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5
      You can run your own domain server (but only if you have a static IP!). If this is a Linux/UNIX machine, run BIND on it. List your computer as the primary DNS server, and GraniteCanyon's **2** DNS servers as secondarys (list them both, or GraniteCanyon may delete your domain). Have GraniteCanyon get their domain data from your system ("Create secondary DNS" on their page). You can use Everyone.net (or BigMailBox.com) to do mail forwarding if you don't want to run your own SMTP server (The admin can create several forwarding addresses for a domain, and users can register web-based accounts. But you can always delete user's accounts if they start stealing good names). You can use www.capibara.com if you want free web forwarding. Or you can just run the mail/web servers on your machine.

      Here's my BIND setup. I run it with the command "named -u dns -g dns -t /home/dns named.conf". This runs it as user/group "dns", chrooted to "/home/dns" for security, and reading the configuration from "/home/dns/named.conf". Here's my named.conf:

      options {
      datasize 4M;
      files 100;
      allow-transfer { none; };
      allow-query { localhost; };
      };

      controls {
      unix "/var/run/ndc" perm 0600 owner 0 group 0;
      };

      acl "granitecanyon" { 205.166.226.38; 216.17.165.20; };
      acl "me" { 127.0.0.1; };

      zone "mydomain.com." {
      type master;
      file "master/mydomain.com";
      allow-transfer { granitecanyon; me; };
      allow-query { any; };
      };

      Make the following directories UNDER /home/dns: "dev/", "master/", "var/run/". Copy your /dev/null device into your new dev/ directory. Add "-a /home/dns/dev/log" to your syslog's command line (in one of your startup scripts). Now create a "master/mydomain.com" file:

      @ SOA @ my.email.address. (
      2000022701 ; serial
      8H ; refresh
      2H ; retry
      2W ; expire
      1D ) ; minimum
      NS @
      NS ns1.granitecanyon.com.
      NS ns2.granitecanyon.com.
      MX 10 @
      RP my.email.address. @
      TXT "DeCSS source code goes here :) [or any other text]"
      A 1.2.3.4 ; your IP here

      localhost A 127.0.0.1
      www CNAME @
      ftp CNAME @

      This basic setup should work if you run your own mail, web, and DNS servers, with GraniteCanyon as your backup DNS. Replace my.email.address with your email address in dot form (i.e. "me@email.com" becomes "me.email.com.").

    5. Re:Question Regarding DNS by karl.auerbach · · Score: 3

      What you are buying is a contractual right to have your domain name entered into a "zone file" for some TLD, "Top Level Domain", such as .com or .nu. As a contractual right you can do all the normal things one does with contractual rights - delegate them, use them as security, etc, subject to the limits in the registration contract.

      Be forwarned: Virtually every registrar has in its registration contract a provision that allows them to take your domain name away from you pretty much at their whim.

      As for DNS itself - there is a belief that there can only be a single DNS hierarchy. That is not the case. I have not used the ICANN root system for several years and am using several additional TLDs, such as .web. See my note on this at http://www.cavebear.com/cavebear/growl/issue_2.htm #multiple_roots

      DNS is a hierarchially (sp) organized lookup system - it is used to map structured names into records of various types, IP address records being but one of those types. So please don't fall into the trap of equating domain names with WWW presence - DNS is used for many other thins from e-mail to voice-over-IP telephony to geographic lat/long coordinates to public key information.

      Administration of DNS is organized along the lines of the hierarchy so the impact of updates is localized; there's no worldwide update protocol (although there is an update protocol between primary and secondary servers established by each administration in the hierarchy.)

      As for your technical questions, you might want to check out the O'Reilly and Associates book on DNS (it may be more than you want to know.)

      I also wrote up something a couple of years ago, before ICANNN, that might be helpful: http://www.cavebear.com/nsf-dns/background.htm

      --karl--

    6. Re:Question Regarding DNS by Alkivar · · Score: 1

      Moderate this up +1 Informative

    7. Re:Question Regarding DNS by --delphi-- · · Score: 1

      How the heck is this off topic? I know some of you hate it when people rant on the quality of moderation. But this is a very-related question. The whole discussion does not have to be based on people giving their insight into the best registrar. Questions like this further the discussion as a whole. This question cleared up my confusion and most likely other peoples' confusion regarding registration. DNS is a very important part of registration. For this reason I first think that this post should have gotten more than one point since today I've seen a few posts that were one line trolls that got more points. Also, I definitely think that this shouldnt have been marked as offtopic since it was definitely on topic. Leave offtopic to things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    8. Re:Question Regarding DNS by MrDelSarto · · Score: 2

      here is a much easier way go to www.dialupdns.com they will have to be your nameservers. you then run a small java applet (provided) and this automagically updates your ip in their dns. they will even do this for FREE! i use it for my cable modem to get access from uni. they do not support other hosts, such as ftp, mail, but for free you won't find a cheaper or easier deal

    9. Re: Question Regarding DNS by ErpLand · · Score: 1
      As for DNS itself - there is a belief that there can only be a single DNS hierarchy. That is not the case. I have not used the ICANN root system for several years and am using several additional TLDs, such as .web. See my note on this at http://www.cavebear.com/cavebear/growl/issue_2.htm #multiple_roots

      ... and 98% of the world won't be able to see whatever wonderful or otherwise sites/services that are hosted using these non-standard domains

      The fact there is a single DNS hierarchy is most important, I think. It means that every site is accessible from everywhere and that all resolving can be configured the same throughout the whole network.

      Your article suggests a parallel with telephone directories but I reckon the domain name system is more akin to the phone number system - the lack of a monolithic international dialling structure would cause great organisational problems.

      You also state that DNS is a hierarchially (sp) organized lookup system - which surely means that there is one root domain.

      Though there are flaws in the domain name system (and I anticipate the whole system might be superceded sometime in the next decade or two) it would be damaging to switch to something as complicated as the multiple-root channel-like system you propose.

    10. Re:Question Regarding DNS by stab · · Score: 2

      If you are concerned about security and reliability, then BIND may not be the best solution for you. It has a history of security exploits, and in general the codebase is a complete mess.

      Everyone's favourite daemon-revamper Dan Bernstein has an excellent DNS suite of tools called DNSCache which you can obtain from http://cr.yp.to/dnscache.html. This looks pretty much ultrasecure (as most of his stuff is), and also very robust and modular. In addition, you don't need to muck around with zone files and so on, and the interface for adding information is ridiculously simple thanks to some scripts in the package.

      For example, to add a new alias to an already existing domain, all I have to do is :

      ./add-alias new.recoil.org 1.2.3.4
      make

      and thats it! Serial numbers etc all taken care of automatically for you.

      I've been running and playing with DNSCache and can recommend to anyone looking for an alternative to BIND.

      Anil

  13. NPS Internet Solutions by VP · · Score: 3

    I have been very happy with their service, both for domain name registration, and for hosting. AFAIK, they are the only ones who offer domain parking free, and the registration costs only $30.00 (yep, that's $15 a year).

    Check them out at npsis.com.

    1. Re:NPS Internet Solutions by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      I just registered a domain through npsis, and was amazed at how much easier it was to get it done. I selected them for webhosting it too, based on price, and within 24 hours everything was all set.

      -=Bob

  14. Re:The government is an obstacle. by um...+Lucas · · Score: 1

    Get a clue. The government & acadamia actually paid for and developed the internet.

  15. Do NOT follow the Free Domains link by Perrin-GoldenEyes · · Score: 1

    You REALLY don't want to see that!!!
    Cheers,
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  16. Re:OpenSRS (Have you used it???) by Dr.+Crane · · Score: 2
    I am in the process of setting up the OpenSRS system for my company. Seems quite straightforward but there are always those nagging doubts!

    Have people here used them and found that things really work and work well?

  17. Re:Registration is wrong and unnecessary. by EuroBryce · · Score: 1

    >If the ISO had been involved in videotapes twenty years ago, we might be stuck with >the absurdly inadequate Betamax format. BetaMax was a superior format than VHS. It lost out in the market because of Sony's licensing practices. A group of vendors got together to thwart BetaMax by creating the cheaper, and lower quality, VHS format. In the professional video realm, BetaMax-evolved formats are the standard for analog work. The next time you see a TV news crew, note the "BetaCam SP" stickers on their cameras.

  18. Dotster.com by Julius+X · · Score: 4

    Dotster.com is what I used, and they gave me quick service and their registration fee was only $15/year(don't know if it's still that cheap though), which is $20 less than all other services. I highly recommend them.

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    1. Re:Dotster.com by Julius+X · · Score: 2

      Just checked, and Dotster's price is $25 per year, which is still cheaper than any other service that I've seen.

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    2. Re:Dotster.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is funny. Dotster is using Register.com as their domain registrar. Hmm...

      Domain Name: DOTSTER.COM
      Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.

  19. Domain Forwarding... by Julyen · · Score: 1

    I'm currently looking out www.domaindirect.com which are in the business for some time now, a friend of mine use their service for a year or two now. They are with Tucows and OpenSRS (? I think it's the name of their own registrar). For 70$ for 2 years, you have the domain name registered + 5 emails and http forwarding, which is not bad. They have more services to be available soon (one pop3 account and so on). (By the way I am *not* affiliated with them.)

    I guess I'll give them a try soon... Anyone knows them better?

    Julyen
    1. Re:Domain Forwarding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So far domaindirect.com has been really slow at responding to name server request changes.. they claim that a quick web interface is in the works..but that doesn't to much good when your domains are sitting in parked limbo & they won't respond to customer service emails.. is there something about registrars that makes them particulary unresponsive? it seems to be nearly across the board?!

    2. Re:Domain Forwarding... by mbublitz · · Score: 1

      AutoForward.com can register your domain for between $16-$20 per year depending on how many years you register. They also have domain forwarding for $20/year on top of a registration or do-it-yourself DNS for only $5/year. Try http://www.AutoForward.com and see for yourself.

  20. I used enom.com by dydx · · Score: 1

    I used enom.com. They have a good web based domain named manager and free email/www redirection services and best of all, I didn't get my email sold off and nailed with junk email like register.com does.

    1. Re:I used enom.com by Corvus · · Score: 1

      I'm using Enom also, and lately, I'm very unhappy with them because
      their MX host for my domain was busted, i.e. returning 'user unknown' errors for email. I wouldn't have minded if their smtp server
      was down for a while because that wouldn't have caused a fatal bounce, just a delay. *sigh*

      So I set up virtual email hosting elsewhere and tried to update the MX record for my domain, and that wasn't working either. I used their nice web page for updating my DNS, and submitted the changes. Over 12 hours later and not even their DNS servers have the new MX record!

      And they don't answer their phone or email.

      So, let the buyer beware.

    2. Re:I used enom.com by wmclay · · Score: 1

      As have I for nearly a year... but only for DNS originally. Their on-line system does work very well for doing the updates.

      However, so far this year, I have recorded 10 DNS time-out errors (monitored 24 x 7 every 15 minutes). The e-mail request to address this problem was ignored, as was my request to see what involvement (and ownership) they have with (by) Microsoft. Why? Whois enom.com:

      Paul Stahura (stahura@enom.com)
      425-868-4636
      FAX: 425-868-5323
      1716 221st PL NE
      REDMOND, WA 98053

      Now that our prized domain name is up for renewal with NSI, I'll think twice about taking the chance of messing it up by going with 'another' registrar. Paranoid? Perhaps, but we can not possibly afford to lose or take the domain that we've spent so much effort promoting off-line. I'll pay the $35 to NSI and get a good night's sleep. Perhaps by next year I'll be comfortable enough to take the risk...

  21. opensrs.com and worldwebserver.com by turg · · Score: 3
    The OpenSRS model, whereby anybody with a bit of Perl know-how can plug into their API for registering domain names, really opens up a lot of possibilities.

    For example, one webhost I use, WorldWebserver.com, offers free domain registration with hosting. But if you're getting, "just domain registration" for $25/year you get one page hosting of one-page site that you can change whenever you want, a catch-all POP3 email box, http logs including http_referer and graphical stats. That's a lot better deal that having your parked domain point at an ad for the registrar!

    You can actually do alot with a one-page domain. I've used a few as "storefronts" for affiliate links, or you can just use it for your "front page" and have your other pages on the web space that comes with your dial-up.

    Plus the tech support at worldwebserver.com is amazing. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Oh and they use Apache on Slackware too.

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  22. Picking a registrar by .@. · · Score: 5


    First, a word about register.com. You may want to read through the DNSO archives, the IFWP list, and the DOMAIN-POLICY archives to see what register.com has been up to, particularly regarding the single-letter domains.

    You may also want to have a look at their registration agreement, particularly the bit on information ownership. They own all your contact information, and can do whatever they want with it.

    Note the section in 6d above where they explicitly say you give them the right to use your information for targeted marketing.

    Others aren't any better. BulkRegister has been phone-spamming people with completely automated unsolicited phone calls, in violation of US State and Federal law.

    Joker.com and the other current and past CORE registrars have had significant problems in the past, and CORE is losing registrars right and left.

    Most of the registrars have had significant and in some cases highly-publicised problems interacting using the SRS -- the Shared Registry System, resulting in things like aol.com's ownership being transferred to an individual (and later changed back), and other domain names not owned by big companies not being so lucky in having their ownership info corrected.

    There's a problem with CORE registrars as well...several years ago, when people were once again trying to get new Top-Level Domains (TLDs), CORE managed to have a set of 7 TLD agreed upon. CORE registrars were pre-selling registrations in these 7 TLDs last year. They've now stopped, but should those & go active, it's still unknown whether or not anyone will have a fair shot at registering within them due to these pre-sells.

    I'd personally recommend becoming a member of the OpenSRS project, and being your own registrar.

    If you can't or won't do that, then do the following: Find and take the time to READ each registrar's Domain Dispute Policy and Registration Agreement, and think of what it means to you if your domain name ownership is challenged. The challenges are mushrooming, and all signs point to corporations getting whatever they want. Go see the resolved UDRP cases to get a feeling for how the wind is currently blowing.

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    1. Re:Picking a registrar by dexev · · Score: 1

      Note the section in 6d above where they explicitly say you give them the right to use your information for targeted marketing.

      ...

      I'd personally recommend becoming a member of the OpenSRS project, and being your own registrar.

      Except that section 3 of the OpenSRS domain registration agreement reads like this:

      As further consideration for the Services, you agree to: (1) provide certain current, complete and accurate information about you as required by the registration process and (2) maintain and update this information as needed to keep it current, complete and accurate. All such information shall be referred to as account information ("Account Information"). You hereby grant us the right to disclose to third parties such Account Information

      Hmmm...sounds like a right to spam you to me. But domain registration information has always been publically available, so this doesn't worry my too much. I'm much more concerned about he UDRP

  23. Re:Registration is wrong and unnecessary. by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 1
    What crack are you smoking? You start off with a relatively weak argument, lose all credibility when you call Betamax "absurdly inadequate," imply that Visual Basic is a better language than ANSI C, and then lose what little coherent sense of any potential argument you ever had.

    Either this ramble was created by a very good rant generator, a passable troll, or a woefully-misinformed severaly-brain-damaged political activist who doesn't know the difference between free trade and anarchy.

    I suppose you think copyrights and trademarks are wrong and unnecessary too, huh?
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  24. Re:Registration is wrong and unnecessary. by talonyx · · Score: 1

    Well, you do have a point there. Some kind of laws governing a system like that would easily prevent cases like the recent Etoy vs Etoys one...

    but, here's one of the biggest problems:
    if this is done, you could make an "ibm.com" website, win pubic opinion somehow, and then set up a fake e-commerce site. You could dupe thousands of users out of their credit card numbers within the 8 to 12 weeks it takes to "ship" the product before anybody notices.

    Besides, how would people decide? Some kind of poll scheme? Couldn't you just find a couple of free ISP's, dial in with a different IP each time, and stuff the ballot box?

    And how would "ibm.com" go to your site and IBM's at the same time?

    Betamax and VHS weren't called the same thing. In order for two things to make sense and have the same name, they either have to have two completely different functions, or be two versions of the same exact product (whether from competeing manufactururs or not). You can't have TAPEZ and have "vhs" TAPEZ and "betamax" TAPEZ, and expect people who buy TAPEZ to figure out which is which and which will work in their VCR.

    (Also, Betamax was a better, higher resolution format... the reason it didn't succeed is becuase it was Sony vs. The World.)
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  25. Christmas Island - nic.cx by The_Jazzman · · Score: 3

    The Christmas Island registry (http://www.nic.cx) does a pretty fine job of things.
    Firstly it's only £20 for the first two years, £10 a year after that.
    Then they offer free domains to open source projects.
    Also they will give you unlimited email forwarding rules (i.e. as many email addresses @domain.cx to forward to wherever).
    Then they will give you web aliasing, that is http://www.domain.cx will display the content of, for example, http://www.geocities.com/wherever/mywebpage/
    Not bad for such a low price.

    1. Re:Christmas Island - nic.cx by kcarnold · · Score: 1

      What if you want to do your own email?

      What's that in USD?

    2. Re:Christmas Island - nic.cx by The_Jazzman · · Score: 1

      > What if you want to do your own email?

      Simple... enter the DNS settings for your mail server. If you've already got mail forwarding running, just go to the mail forwarding form and click 'Turn off mail forwarding'.

    3. Re:Christmas Island - nic.cx by kcarnold · · Score: 1

      Good. Other people have said that [insert your registar here] has tons of problems if you want to do your own e-mail but they also provide e-mail services.

    4. Re:Christmas Island - nic.cx by waldoj · · Score: 1

      The Christmas Island registry (http://www.nic.cx) does a pretty fine job of things.

      Yeah, but then you'd have a stupid domain name.

  26. Try Dotster by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    I just registered my latest domain with Dotster - fast, cheap ($25/year regular, $15 to reserve a domain and use their name servers (another $15 when you want to activate it)), and more convenient and secure methods of changing your records. www.dotster.com

    Apparently Network Solutions was legally required to make it possible to change registrars - but they weren't required to make it an easy process, and they definitely didn't! I'd love to change all my other domains over to Dotster, and someday, I may take the time and trouble to do it...

    1. Re:Try Dotster by Zelphyr · · Score: 1

      The only problem I have w/Dotster is that you have to supply a domain name as your primary and secondary nameservers. I'd like to be able to provide both the domain name AND IP address. Beyond that they've been great!

    2. Re:Try Dotster by sljiva · · Score: 1

      I agree with you in the first part. They are supposed to allow you to enter name and IP adress of your name servers. For the second part, I strongly disagree. There is a week when I registered a domain with Dotster, exchanged e-mails with technical support and still the registration is not complete. In conclusion, try to avoid Dotster! Yo Yo

  27. Hey. Question for DNS Geek by Amphigory · · Score: 3
    Could someone who knows comment on what happens if you register with a company and they go out of business? I.e. Let's say you use joker.com (who are in Germany if memory serves) and they go under next tuesday. What happens?

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    1. Re:Hey. Question for DNS Geek by TOCie · · Score: 1

      Joker registers through CORE (http://www.corenic.org/) - the registration is really held by them. So if Joker goes belly up, you can probably still modify things through CORE. In theory.

  28. Decent Registrar by Gailin · · Score: 1

    I have so far had good luck using qwho.com, on their front page they offer $35 registration for 2 years through namesecure.com .

    Namesecure.com was very prompt in their transfer of the DNS to my server and all around had good customer service (they answered their customer service line in only 3 rings)

    Namesecure.com offers other services such as email forwarding and the such, but I have not used nor priced these items.

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  29. Registering Domains by SuperDuG · · Score: 1

    I think pricing is what's bringing everyone down these days. Domains aren't expensive if you look at them from a business perspective, but if you are making a website for non-business reasons all you're doing is losing more money. And today actually getting the domain you want can cause you alot of grief... I'd personally like to see how many domains are "parked" and just being wasted out there.

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  30. Domain Registrations by SnooperZ · · Score: 1

    We use http://www.DomainNameSystems.com with $15 domain registrations. FANTASTIC customer support, as well as User/Pass login system, bulk registrations and they also have a anti-hijacking program in place. They are new guys on the block, using a radically modified version of OpenSRS.

  31. Network Solutions has burned me too many times by JediLuke · · Score: 1
    I have seen network solutions just be idiots too many times. If they lose your domain...oh well its not their problem. If someone you pay to register a domain in your name, and then makes themselves the registrant? Not Netsol's prob. If you have a problem like you need a domain transfered to another service or DNS, you will have to wait 4-6 weeks to get it done, or pay $200 to have it done right away.

    I like the .nu because it's cheep, and they have lots of names still avail. I mean $45 for two years? pretty good!
    JediLuke

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  32. Best registrars by crovax · · Score: 1

    Network Solutions is the first choice that comes to mind. They are slow and imposable to work with so your best bet is to find a computer company that will help you. I work at an ISP where if you want a domain registered we will deal with network solutions making life easier on you.I'm sure that there are many small ISPs that would apreciate the buisness near where you live where ever that is.

  33. what about .cc? by fcd · · Score: 1

    Driving home last night I heard a comercial for a .cc domain hyping it as the next .com. The comercial was for spot.cc a registrar for that top level domain. What is it? And is spot.cc the only registrar for it?

    1. Re:what about .cc? by pb · · Score: 1

      The Cocos (Keeling) Islands. Country codes are here.

      ...sounds like a "Carbon Copy" domain to me. :)
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  34. DomainMonger.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Check out DomainMonger.com. Domains are only $17.
    Parking is free.
    Transfers are free.
    And, they have the best domain management system I have seen.

    Highly recommended!

  35. Oh, I understand. You are an anarchist. by JimBobJones · · Score: 1

    That's a great philosophy. Really. I like the idea of not having any protections at all save the support of the community. I love the idea that if I'm in the minority, I'm fucked. That's a wonderful way to live. My slave-state mindest, apparantly, does not prevent me from seeing the beauty of being persecuted for any percieved difference from the majority. You fucking moron. JimBobJones who has always depended on the kindness of strangers.

  36. register.com by Jesus+Christ · · Score: 1
    I've used register.com to register two domains. I don't think they are the cheapest, but I haven't had any problems.

    I am the Lord.

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  37. Re:Joker.com (DomainMonger.com is better!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Joker is okay, but they don't offer free parking, and you have to pay about $35 to transfer your domain!

    Check out DomainMonger.com. They are cheaper than joker.com, offer free parking, free transfers, a better web-based management system, and they are based in the US, so there are no language barriers in the case that you need support.

  38. I like dotster.com by Interested+Guy · · Score: 1

    I have registered several domains in the last month or so, and I have been very happy with Dotster.com. The domains that I registered there came online a lot faster than the ones that I registered elswhere. They also offer registration from 15 bucks per year, which I think is a great deal.

  39. myinternet.com by Evro · · Score: 3
    I use myinternet.com and/or its mydomain.com service to forward my domain to my college account since I don't want to pay for hosting. The service is nice, when it works. You get free email redirection, but again, this is when it works. It's down a *lot*, probably 50% of the time when I try to access my domain it doesn't work. I guess they just make a frame and put the target URL inside it. This pretty much sucks, since if you click a link from inside the frame the URL doesn't change in the Location: box, and the title remains the same. The frames are most likely there so that they can put ads up eventually, but I don't really care, like I said, it's free. But with it being down all the time, it's pretty much useless, since you can't just say "joeblow.com", you have to say "joeblow.com, but if that's down, try www.cs.college.edu/~joeblow", and you have to do the same thing with the email forwarding -- "joe@joeblow.com, but if that's down, it's joe@cs.college.edu". But I guess it's better than nothing, and like I said, it's free.

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    1. Re:myinternet.com by ghoughto · · Score: 1

      The reason that the URL remains as the registered domain is that Evro is using "Stealth" instead of "Standard" redirection within myinternet.com. Not showing www.cs.college.edu/~joeblow is a feature of Stealth redirection not a bug. If you would prefer not to have the feature, and to not use the frame then use "Standard" redirection. gareth

  40. hearty agreement by Savage+Henry+Matisse · · Score: 3

    I registered through dotster at the beginning of February in order to take advantage of the $15 rate. My 2-cents: I had a few questions after registering, e-mailed them, and had a response in less than 6 hours. In my experience, good customer service-- esp. a good, fast response time-- is a very good indicator for a company's overall quality. Also, it's very easy to update/change account info (name-servers, for example) with dotster.

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  41. register.com sponsor grantiecanyon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well register.com sponsors granitecanyon.com, the public dns people. But is dependent upon the referals that granitecanyon makes to register.com.

    So if you want to help out granitecanyon, just hop on over to soa.granitecanyon.com then click over to register.com and register your domain.

    Register.com offers a very nice interface. But they are a bit pricy.

    Personally I now use totalnic.net They offer great service. With no frils. Nice web based interface for changing DNS information. Althouh they are plaiged with the trouble that CoreNIC has...

    Overall for now TotalNIC is in my opinion your best bet due to the cheap pricing.

    Well good luck

    1. Re:register.com sponsor grantiecanyon by SpaceKow · · Score: 1

      I agree, totalnic.net is fine. The tools they provide are straight forward.

      I registered my free web hosting service http://signup.loversmail.com on totalnic.net. And I am very HAPPY with the service they provide.

      Totalnic is in Austrailia. 30 dollars for two years and a helpful service.

      I am not using Network Solutions anymore!
      You should do the same.

  42. I used it and it's good. by Rainy · · Score: 2

    it's $15/year, interface could use some work.. overall, I'm a satisfied customer. The only problem is that you have to look up special code for your dns server before submitting it.. takes probably a minute of your time but still, they should fix that.

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  43. Re:Proposal by Troll+Boy+2 · · Score: 1
    I propose that -1 Troll is a user configuarable option, and that it can also be set as +1 Troll, or 0 Troll In other words, you decide whether a troll moderation flag incrases/decrease/doesn't change whether you want to read it.

    Damn, I post an interesting comment, and BAM it gets -1 just because it's from "Troll Boy".

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  44. Re:Bullshit. by um...+Lucas · · Score: 1

    Are you just doing this because you're in a bad mood and what to shoot your mouth off or something?

    Look up the history of the internet, why don't you? You'll find the Arpanet. It was used for years by just the government and universities. Later on, the web was built on top of, or maybe as a subset of, the internet. But that's basically an interface, nothing more.

    The government was largely responsible for funding and building the intital "internet", and then basically passed the ball on to other entities. To deny that they had any involvement is rather ludicrous.

  45. Transferring from NSI by FaKe · · Score: 1

    Anyone have any experience transferring their domains from network solutions? I just got a new server and have been trying to change the IP for my primary nameserver w/ NSI. No results, of course and their phone support is only Mon-Fri. I have another domain on dotster.com and it's beautiful .. web-based w/ username/password .. instant changes .. prompt support .. cheap as hell (I got in on the $15/yr deal). Anyways, what involves transferring a domain? Has anyone actually successfully done this?

  46. possibility of violations by small registrars by Rainy · · Score: 1

    Imagine that you go and type in your domain name to register in some small registrar's website. Some guy is sitting there and looking at the domains as they're being submitted. When he sees something good, he hits a key and that domain is registered by the registrar and you're told it's unavailable. I had this uncomforing thought when I read /. story on nsi messing up with a domain transfer and some other registrar yonking it. That registrar was affiliated with realnames.com that sells domain names. I think it's register.com? but I'm not sure. If I was registering a domain that is very important to me, I would probably use NSI for this reason.

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    1. Re:possibility of violations by small registrars by crisco · · Score: 2
      I've wondered about that also. Imagine somebody's WHOIS requester archiving all the requests. Then once or twice a day someone takes a look at the requests and picks out likely looking ones and registers them. Poof, now the useful generic ones are gone. They could even snag some business related ones, the cost is low enough that they could just back down should someone challenge the ownership.

      Hmm, I just might have a new patent application... After all, someone patented teasing a cat with a laser pointer.

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  47. converting pounds to dollars by Savage+Henry+Matisse · · Score: 1
    As of 15:20 EST, 10 Brit Pounds = US$15.9320

    Handy reference: Universal Currency Converter

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    *****
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  48. Re:Registration is wrong and unnecessary. by donutello · · Score: 1

    I agree! This should work with phone numbers too. You shouldn't have the right to claim phone numbers for yourself. I can choose to call myself 1-900-HOT-GRITS or (310)555-1212 and THE MARKET should decide who the calls should go to! Down with evil imperialist government and regulators.

    Free enterprise should prevail. Thatis the way God intended it all to be!

    Oh, and Gore invented the internet too.

    --
    Mmmm.. Donuts
  49. Re:converting pounds to dollars-- OOPS!! by Savage+Henry+Matisse · · Score: 2
    Sorry, FUBARed the URL; should be http://www.xe.net/ucc/

    (note to self: always use Preview button)

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    "S"HM
    *****
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  50. Re:Bullshit. by nodens · · Score: 1

    You might want to double check your own facts moron. The internet was under construction in the 70's. Appartently, you've never heard of a thing called Arpanet, which was the original internet, and was created by the gov't and universities. The mid-80's was when companies actually started to get on board.

    Maybe you should check your own facts before shooting your mouth off.

  51. NameSecure.com is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I would not recommend this company at all based on my current experience. On Friday they started forwarding all my domain e-mail to some other address. I have been unable to contact them at all through e-mail or phone. They are completely unresponsive. You can bet that if any sort of problem occurs outside of regular business hours, especially a major privacy or security problem, that you are basically fucked. I'll be moving my accounts as soon as possible.

    1. Re:NameSecure.com is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! by ericr · · Score: 1

      Sadly, I have to agree. I registered two domains there a while back, and had way too many problems with Namesecure. I've been trying to xfer some other domains to namesecure, and have had too many problems with this as well. I'm still looking for a registrar in the US who can deal with something simple, and has good customer service.

      --
      It was Judge Woodlock, in the US District Court for Massachusetts, with a gavel.
  52. www.netwiz.net by dananderson · · Score: 1
    I like netwiz.net, part of corenic.net.

    Registration is only $25 a year and changes are web-based. NetWiz is part of CORE, which hosts several registrars.

  53. DomainMonger.com is the best! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3
    I can't believe people are still willing to pay the full price to companies like NSI and register.com, when you can pay half the price elsewhere!

    Take a look at DomainMonger.com. They offer better service than NSI and register.com, but they cost only $17 to register a domain. That's right, $17 to register a domain, with no other fees. And unlike Joker and Dotster you don't have to pay for transfers, and they guarantee that they won't raise the price in the future when you have to renew your domain.

    Not only that, DomainMonger.com has a cool web-based management interface that allows you to make modifications to multiple domains at one time. The manangment system uses newer and better technology, unlike other registrars who are tied to the badly implemented systems that were put in place years ago.. Check them out!

    http://DomainMonger.com

    1. Re:DomainMonger.com is the best! by ctran · · Score: 1

      I just registered my domain at register.com. Only if I knew this.....!!!!

    2. Re:DomainMonger.com is the best! by captain+izumi · · Score: 1

      I wonder if there's any correlation between this enticing testimonial on Slashdot and this note prefixing the order confirmation I received:

      ******************** NOTICE ********************

      We have switched over to real-time credit card processing, however, we just had a huge jump in the number of regular registrations, which has caused us to postpone final processing of domains. This postponement period has lasted no longer than 24 hours. If you have had trouble logging into your domain, this is probably the reason. If you are still having trouble logging in, please feel free to e-mail service@DomainMonger.com.

      Unfortunately, we have been going through some growing pains, which should soon be resolved. If you e-mailed support and your issue has not been resolved, please send an e-mail again. Sorry for the inconvenience.

      ************************************************

      Registration for beermilkshake.com has been completed and should show up in the WHOIS database within two days.

  54. $15 registration!! by plumpy · · Score: 3

    At Nominalia!! They're decent I guess. Main lame point is a $60 fee to transfer ownership of the domain... they're set up for cybersquatters, clearly... (cheap initial registration, if you sell it, then you have to pay them, but who cares, cuz by that point you've made $$$ anyway...)

  55. i like these guys by el_guapo · · Score: 1

    http://www.communitech.net/ their virtual hosting pricing, and what it comes with, are hard to beat. they'll host on either solaris or (ahem) NT. They also have a dedicated server package, but that would seem overkill at first. Of course, they're not geared to doing only the registration part, but if you're looking for a home for it as well, these guys are great....hth

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    mas cerveza, por favor politically incorrect stu
  56. No DNS by TheTomcat · · Score: 3

    If anyone is looking to grab a few domains, but is not ready to commit to a host/dns provider yet, I suggest you check out soa.granitecanyon.com.

    They let you create your own A, CNAME, and MX records, so you can register through any registrar you want, and if you're without DNS, have them point at the granitecanyon set up for DNS resolution. This has saved me many a time.

  57. Dibby.com by kupolu · · Score: 1

    I highly recommend Dibby.com... They are fast (on the same backbone as yahoo) and relatively inexpensive (14.95 a month) Some highlights of dibby.com 200 POP E-mail Accounts 300MB Server Space Unlimited Traffic Unlimited Auto-Responders CGI-BIN Anonymous FTP Secure Server Daily Backups And alot more... I have had _zero_ problems with them. Great service.

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    -- We should kill all the intolerant people in the world.
  58. Re:joker by ibbey · · Score: 1

    i dont trust joker.com. they dont seem to be competant.

    Is this a troll, or do you really have a reason to not trust them? My personal experience has been wholly satisfactory, though admittedly, I've not had a problem that's really tested the relationship. But the fact that you're posting anonymously coupled with the fact that you don't actually say WHY you don't trust them makes your comment completely useless...

  59. Free DNS service by copycat · · Score: 1

    The Public DNS Service seem very cool.
    This isn't related either, but DynoDNS will give you yourname.dynodns.net for a dynamic IP. updatable with a web page or various clients you can put in your ip-up script.

    1. Re:Free DNS service by Sendy · · Score: 2

      My experience with Granite Canyon is not very positive. I lost my password (yeah, i'm stupid) and there is no way I can't get it back. They have some sort of usenet password request service, but nobody gets their password using this service. It is down now, BTW. I am glad i do not use their service anymore.

      Sendy

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      GNU guru and mainframe hacker
  60. OT: Beta vs VHS by EuroBryce · · Score: 1

    >That's absurd. Why then was VHS overwhelmingly chosen by customers? Because it provided better
    >price/performance than Betamax.

    Better price and availability do not equate to technical superiority.

    >I am a bit of a movie connoiseur myself, and in my extensive experience renting movies, I
    >have not seen a single Betamax tape in well over a decade. They no longer exist.

    That's like arguing that VHS is a better format than Laserdisc because I can rent VHS tapes at any Blockbuster video.

    Analog formats that evolved from BetaMax (such as BetaCam SP) rule in the professional video market. This includes TV news, comercials, and the dreaded infomercial. In a post-production facility, the only VHS decks you will find are used for duplication. You'll never see a VHS deck in a professional edit suite.

    (note: I don't work in the video business, but many of my friends do)

  61. How does domain registration work? by Joe+Groff · · Score: 1

    What is the entire process for registering a domain name, anyway? Do I just pay the cash and tell them my IP address, or what?

    I'm just wondering, because if I ever get a static IP link, a little vanity domain name might be nice. :)

    --

    -Joe

    1. Re:How does domain registration work? by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 2

      Sort of. You pay them some money and tell them the IP address(es) of one or more DNS server which serves your domain. Some registrars (register.com, for example) and many ISPs provide a DNS service, usually at an extra but nominal fee, or if you're willing to learn how to set up domain records yourself, you can go to free DNS services such as Granite Canyon, whom I use to serve the nameserver records for trikuare.cx (mostly since I need the flexibility of maintaining the DNS myself, since I have a bunch of different systems I keep under this domain, some of which are dynamic, some of which aren't, and I've also got my mail exchanging handled by a friend of mine, who is separate than the friend who runs the webserver which my homepage is on, etc.etc.etc.)
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      "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
      Quine "quine?
  62. C was not created by academics by mangu · · Score: 1
    Think about that the next time you fire up your "ANSI" C compiler: You've been robbed. The language you're using was created not by business to suit its own needs, but by academics to further their ideological agendas.

    The reason I use C is because it was created by a programmer, based on sound, practical, principles. If I wanted an "academic" language I would use Pascal, Modula2, or Smalltalk. The differences between "K&R" C and "ANSI" C are small and rather cosmetic. None of my programs are affected by those small differences.

    I agree that there may be some unnecessary standards, but I think *international* name registries are truly necessary. Otherwise, how could we get to chose which site is www.slashdot.org?

    I don't understand what you mean by "freee competition" regarding domain names. You mean a Domain Name Server could allocate any random IP address to each name?

  63. Re:SUN == "Stanford University Network". by um...+Lucas · · Score: 1

    wow! An intellegent troll!!! I'm amazed! :)

  64. domaindirect.com by margaret · · Score: 1

    I used domaindirect.com to register my domain. It was $70 for 2 years, which after reading the other posts, I suppose is expensive.

    Anyway, domaindirect is run by TUCOWS and I've had nothing but excellent service. If you don't have an IP address to give thenm they will set up a "coming soon" page for you, or you can have it forward to another page. You can also set it up so that your domain name stays in the browser address bar after it forwards. (I think they use an invisible frame or something.) You can edit the meta tags for the forwarding page too.

    As far as email, you get 5 addresses to make up at your domain name. You can either specify a location to forward to, or else use POP mail to check them.

    Hope this helps,
    -margaret

  65. Re:joker by Alkivar · · Score: 1

    actually joker is rather competant
    i've bought 3 domains from them using
    my own dns servers. service has been
    simple to get working, that is simple
    once you figure out their wierd page
    layout.

  66. NPSIS by Byteme · · Score: 1

    I used NPSIS.com for both registrar and hosting. It was $45 for two years (less than the usual $70) and $8/mo for hosting with 50MB and 5 pop3. Not a bad deal and they are pro-open source with a great Perl Web Mail app that you can run on your site. I thought about using dreamhost.com also...

  67. DNS registrar by The+Spectre · · Score: 2

    try A+ Plus. theyre an accredited registrar by icann. in your case where you dont or wont have your own nameservers to use, theyll let you use their nameserver to park your domain until you get yours up and running. they charge you only the fees internic charges nothing more.

  68. register.com gets my vote. by Saono · · Score: 1

    I registered my domain name through register.com and am very happy with their service.

    No later than 10 hours after I submitted it my domain was active. They offer free DNS services (which they don't advertise heavily) for people who register and also sponsor granite canyon which is a free dns service for those who don't have dns provided. The web based interface for updating your DNS is excellent and overal I feel I've gotten good bang for the buck.

    I've had some friends also register with them and they are also happy.

    -Saono
    www.artificiallives.com

    1. Re:register.com gets my vote. by .@. · · Score: 1


      No later than 10 hours after I submitted it my domain was active.

      Then you may be interested to know that it may be possible for domains to go active much more quickly than that, and you should be questioning, not being thankful for, that 10-hour delay.

      Register.com is a registrar. In order for a domain name to become active, the registry must be updated. NSI controls that registry, and handles all transactions submitted via the SRS system. Currently, that would include all ICANN-accredited registrars.

      There are two reasons for delay in domain names going active:
      1) Delays in the registrar submitting registrations to the SRS registry, and
      2) Delays in the updating of the registry.

      Normally, the delays in #1 are due to the registrar waiting and submitting an entire batch of registrations. The delays in #2 are technical limits on the speed by which changes can be made to the registry.

      So, you need to ask yourself: How much of that 10 hours was due to register.com holding your registration until some later time, and how much of it was due to the time it takes for submissions via SRS to be integrated into the registry database?

      You may be surprised at the answer.

      NOTE:This delay is something about which you should question any prospective registrar. Some will be relatively quick, some may take days or even a week (e.g., bulkregister.com). An honest registrar should be willing to tell you how often they submit data to the registry.

      --
      .@.
  69. OT: Beta vs. VHS (flame bait) by EuroBryce · · Score: 1

    >I said "price/performance", and, yes, that is precisely how "technical superiority" is defined.

    I thought that "technical superiority" was based on the merits? By your logic, Windows must be "technically superior" because that's what the market chose.

    VHS won over BetaMax in the consumer space due to price and availability. Performance and technical merit had nothing to do with it.

    In the professional space, where price takes a back seat to quality, BetaMax-derived formats are king.

    > >You'll never see a VHS deck in a professional edit suite.

    >This, of course, is a bald-faced lie. I am a professional myself, and have seen nothing resembling what you describe.

    A professional what, manager at Blockbuster?

    It doesn't take a trained eye to see that VHS (and it's derivatives) produce lower quality video than virtually every other format.

  70. CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by jmorse · · Score: 3

    register.com censors domain names containing certain text strings. I ran a little experiment to test this, and was able to ascertain that they censor after several emails and telephone calls. They won't even tell you you're being censored; you just get a message that says "The domain you have requested is not available." Network Solutions also censors, but at least they tell you when they do so and why.

    Do we really want to do business with a company that limits what we can say? I suggest going with a smaller company that doesn't consider itself a guardian of our morality.

    --

    "You done taken a wrong turn."
    -Bill McKinney, in Deliverance
    1. Re:CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by Mister+Attack · · Score: 2
      register.com censors domain names containing certain text strings

      I think they all do, man. I'm pretty sure that the words "fuck" "shit" "cock" "ass" and maybe a few others are prohibited from domain names. I also think that's the policy of NSI, not of the registrars. Of course, I could be wrong...
      --

    2. Re:CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by Sadfsdaf · · Score: 1

      Apparently some allow it, fuckingsucks.net is registered. hehe, i know the domain because you can plug-in anything under .really.fuckingsucks.net, eg. microsoft.really.fuckingsucks.net =). Did a whois on it... Whois Server Version 1.1 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: FUCKINGSUCKS.NET Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS Whois Server: whois.corenic.net Referral URL: www.corenic.net Name Server: CURTIS.CURTISFONG.ORG Name Server: NS1.VMRDESIGNS.COM Name Server: NS2.VMRDESIGNS.COM Updated Date: 09-dec-1999 >>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 27 Feb 00 02:36:32 EST The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and Registrars.

    3. Re:CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by crivens · · Score: 1

      Well if you want to own a company called Nazif*****r then go for it. I for one am offended by the thought that someone would want to register such domain names.

    4. Re:CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by jmorse · · Score: 1

      It's not that I would ever want to register any of these names; I was trying to determine which text strings they censor. As it turns out, they also censor anything having to do with the olympics as well. What's next; censorship of anything critical of the Christian Right?

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      "You done taken a wrong turn."
      -Bill McKinney, in Deliverance
    5. Re:CENSORSHIP AT REGISTER.COM by jmorse · · Score: 2

      It's not NSI policy at all. Just run a WHOIS and check some combinations. A cursory check reveals that there are domains for ass.com, shit.com, cock.com, etc. The individual registrars set their own policies. I have found several smaller registrars that don't censor at all, and say so in their policy statements.

      I believe the registrars should be forced to tell you up front whether they censor or not. I found the fact that register.com won't disclose its policy very disturbing. Corporate censorship is a bigger problem than government censorship these days; look at how the PMRC and other hate mongers have shoe-horned the record industry in years past. We can't allow that to happen on the internet.

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      "You done taken a wrong turn."
      -Bill McKinney, in Deliverance
  71. Re:Joker.com (DomainMonger.com is better!) by DreamOn · · Score: 1

    Actually, also the people at JOKER have no problem with English language. ;)

    Michele.

  72. Register.com is my fav by malice95 · · Score: 1

    I have used register.com quite a few times.
    Compared to using network solutions they are a dream! Their web interface makes it really easy
    to make changes and those changes are propogated
    rather quickly. No more stupid emailing then and them emailing back..over and over. As long as you
    know the domain name and the password you can make
    any and all changes needed. Thye will park your
    domain for free, not sure about email forwarding though.

  73. names4ever by ph4t0ny · · Score: 1

    Experiances with several domain registrars have shown me what pitfalls can be encountered when choosing a domain. The most important that I have found is the interface to the domain management, whether it be through email, phone or online this can result in alot of headaches. The best experiance I have had is with names4ever.com (http://www.names4ever.com). An easy to use interface and online maintenence make domain ownership a breeze. Not to mention free hosting until you have a site/dns server set up.

  74. What's the best DNS service for Dynamic IPs? by Black+Perl · · Score: 1
    I've tried SOA.GRANITECANYON.COM, and updates take place rather slowly. Is there a DNS service that is better suited for a dynamic IP (read: FAST).

    I suppose that propagation to the root servers takes a fixed amount of time no matter what the service, but would love to be shown otherwise.

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    bp
    1. Re:What's the best DNS service for Dynamic IPs? by Black+Perl · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, thank you. I knew that the Dynamic DNS services did not provide DNS hosting or aliasing (i.e. can't use your own domain name), but I hadn't thought about using a combination of the two.

      For slashdot readers wondering how, here's the way to do it:

      1. Sign up for Granite Canyon DNS hosting service (if you haven't already).
      2. Sign up for a DynDNS.org hostname, yourhost.dyndns.org.
      3. Set up an alias (via a CNAME record) that maps your domain name to your DynDNS hostname.
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      bp
  75. Problems with NSI? by hunnr · · Score: 1

    For a couple months now I have been attempting to edit the configuration of a domain i registered with NSI... however every time i attempt to logon i get an error message saying that the system is temporarily unavailable.

    Has anyone else had this problem? How else do i go about changing the settings for my domain (to change the nameservers, etc)?

    1. Re:Problems with NSI? by Sadfsdaf · · Score: 1

      I've had this problem when I was behind a proxy. Try connecting through a regular connect. I think it's some kind of security...

    2. Re:Problems with NSI? by hunnr · · Score: 1

      I'm not behind any kind of proxy :\

    3. Re:Problems with NSI? by VB · · Score: 1

      Hunnr,

      Have you been to The Internet Software Consortium?

      This could be a proxy issue, but, it is a cumbersome system, I will admit. I recently moved my main domain server, reconfigured my DNS on several, installed new backup, and, had to post at least 15 DNS Agreement changes to Internic before it finally fell into place.

      3 weeks later, things are finally falling into place, but, it is clearly an untransparent process, and, DNS errors can be tragic.

      For more details on this process, I'll be glad to lend my experiences.

      Regards,
      Van
      ================================================ =========================
      Linux rocks!!! www.dedserius.com
      ================================================ =========================

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  76. Renewing a domain by Micah · · Score: 1

    Is it possible to renew a domain with a different registrar than the one you signed up with?

    I have to renew soon and I don't want to give more money to N$I...

    Thanks

    1. Re:Renewing a domain by Delta-9 · · Score: 2

      Is it possible to renew a domain with a different registrar than the one you signed up with?

      I am sure they all do this! The registrar that I used to register my domain (TotalNIC.net) will do it. This is what they have said in their FAQ:

      Q: Is it possible to transfer my domain(s) from Network Solutions to TotalNIC?

      A: You will need to fill out the transfer domain form online here.

      Please be aware that NSI processes each transfer request on a case-by-case basis and therefore TotalNIC cannot provide any service guarantees for transfers.

      Your card will not be billed unless the transfer is successful.

      --

      Hope that helps.

      -d9

  77. algore2000.com vs billbradley.com by margaret · · Score: 1

    Speaking of domain names, I stumbled upon this today. If you go to domaindirect.com and type in billbradley, it of course says that .com .net and .org are taken. If you click on each one, it does a whois search. (I was looking for an email address to send a friend's as yet unanswered complaint about their campaign mailing list's bad grammar and spelling, but that's another story.)

    Anyway, here is what you get for billbradley.com:

    Registrant:
    Bill Bradley for President (BILLBRADLEY-DOM)
    395 Pleasant Valley Way
    West Orange, NJ 07052
    US

    Domain Name: BILLBRADLEY.COM

    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    Gore, Al (LR1487) haxormad@HOTMAIL.COM
    AlGore2000.com
    2410 Charlotte Avenue
    Nashville, 37203 37203

    202.644.9658

    Record last updated on 02-Feb-2000.
    Record created on 03-Mar-1997.
    Database last updated on 26-Feb-2000 12:34:27 EST.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS1.SHORE.NET 192.233.85.129
    NS2.SHORE.NET 192.233.145.5
    NS3.SHORE.NET 192.233.145.6
    NS4.SHORE.NET 192.233.85.21


    HOLY SMOKES! Does this mean that Al Gore bought billbradley.com in 1997 and then sold it to them? I don't know much about this type of thing, which is why I'm asking here. The entries for .net and .org say pretty much the same thing:


    Domain Name: BILLBRADLEY.NET

    Administrative Contact:
    Turlington, Ed (ET1357) edturlington@BILLBRADLEY.COM
    The Office of Bill Bradley
    1661 Page Mill Road
    Palo Alto,, CA 94304

    650-494-2554 (FAX) 650-494-1739
    Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    Registrar, Domain (DR1432) shore-dns@SHORE.NET
    Shore.Net
    173 Oxford Street
    Lynn, MA 01901

    781-477-2000 (FAX) 781-593-6858

    Record last updated on 05-May-1998.
    Record created on 05-May-1998.
    Database last updated on 27-Feb-2000 17:29:17 EST.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS1.SHORE.NET 192.233.85.129
    NS3.SHORE.NET 192.233.145.6


    Am I interpreting this corectly - the Gore people bought billbradley.com in 1997, then sometime before May 1998, the Bradley people bought it from them then also bought .org and .net?

    -margaret

  78. TotalNIC by Delta-9 · · Score: 3

    I registered a domain with TotalNIC.net they have a web/email interface for changing all your contacts, and everything went down smoothly. I paid via CC, the fee was $35 for two years. I then used tzo.com to dynamically house my IP address; since I am still stuck with a 56k PPP connection.

    Now I get mail to my linux router box via qmail. Everything works great.

    -d9

  79. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

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  80. My personal suggestion, joker.com by jzig · · Score: 1

    Although it may not have the most professional website, I've found joker.com to be extremely profficient, AND extremely cheap. Even though it's based in Germany, they accepted my credit card fine. However, the best thing is the variable registration time AND the great prices. They offer from 1 year up to 10 year registration times, and at a price of about $16 per year. It's a great value. I've had my domain with them for 6 months, and haven't had any problems. No insecure email or stupid extras, either. They also offer name servers(at $6 a year) if you need them. They offer the same or better ability to change information than the usual, too. Overall, I found joker.com much easier to work with AND half the price of newtork solutions :P I hope Network Solutions has some alternate form of profit, they suck at domain registration. I recommend joker.com to anybody who wants a domain.

  81. $16/Year at AutoForward.com by mbublitz · · Score: 1

    AutoForward.com can register your domain for between $16-$20 per year depending on how many years you register. They also have domain/email forwarding for $20/year on top of a registration or Do-It-Yourself DNS for only $5 per year. Try http://www.AutoForward.com and see for yourself.

  82. the bastard factor by Cheezy · · Score: 1

    Looking through all the other comments, I haven't seen any mention of some of the questionable actions that certain registars (Netsol, register.com) have taken. Remember the races.com dispute? For me, that's enough to never consider using Netsol. Register.com claimed no responsibility, but really, greatdomains.com is the same company, and the one who refused to give up the races.com. Therefor, they are bastards. Just my thoughts.

  83. Re:Joker.com (DomainMonger.com is better!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Domainmonger.com is pretty good - I registered my domain name throught them as well. In addition, I would suggest mydomain.com - it provides e-mail forwarding for free, and I've never had problems with it's service. BTW, I'm not affiliated with either of these companies.

  84. Try inww.com by Guru+Bob · · Score: 1

    Registering a domain these days seems to be a pretty high involvement decision, indicating your domain name is worth just a bit more than the token registration fee. So rather than haggling over a couple of dollars for an important decision, I suggest you check out Internet Names WorldWide at http://www.inww.com. When you register your domain, they give you a registry key, giving you the ability to make your own changes in real time at their maintenance page. So if you are changing hosting companies in the future and you need to make changes to your domain you won't have to wait days or months. You can make the changes yourself at http://www.inww.com in about 5-10 seconds. Also, they will be in business next year. GB

  85. Re:Joker.com (DomainMonger.com is better!) by krogoth · · Score: 1

    Do they give you a DNS service? I want to park a domain, but i don't know if the company will have to put a permanent ad on my page or something. Does anyone know if they just give you the domain and leave you alone when you're ready to take it?

    --

    They that quote Benjamin Franklin on liberty and safety deserve neither.
  86. What ARE primary and secondary DNS servers? by krogoth · · Score: 1

    (see subject) I know what a DNS service is, but is this just two different servers doing the same thing?

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  87. Re:Cheap, absurd lies. by lcrawford · · Score: 1

    umm, Beta tapes have (had, I dono if new advances in vhs tapes have happened or what) better quality, but the reason they lost out is that they are shorter. You usually had to rent 2 beta tapes for a 2 hour movie vs. one vhs. Consumers are normal people, and therefore, morons. However, standards groups are usually suits, and therefore also morons. Personally, I dont really give a shit who creates the standard, so long as its open. (chk out OpenSRS.org $10 domains, and you have direct access to your corenic account. )

  88. Re:VB has demolished C in the marketplace. EOF. by lcrawford · · Score: 1
    first off, VB and C are aimed at 2 totally different markets. VB is for designing quick and dirty frontends, or uncomplicated programs where reliability and speed dont matter, sort of a really crappy perl for dummys that runs on windows. C is for real programs that matter. When was the last time you saw a production HTTP server written in VB? It could be done, but it would suck ass. And codeing GUI's in C is a royal pain in the arse, unless you want some guibuilder that builds in a bunch of problems, just like vb, only not quite as bad.

    C is hard to learn, and takes brainpower to code in, but you end up with a much better product than VB. I agree vb is better for your normal Luser wanting a semi-working database interface on a 'doze box, and who doesnt want to pay for or put up with a real hacker, but it's not a real language. It's a toy for acidemics, lusers and other morons.

    Perl has often been described as a VB for unix. I think this is a somewhat accurate comparison, I mean aside from the fact that perl is much more stable, and faster, it's still a normal guys version of c (and if you cant learn perl, you are terminally stupid. It's even easier than VB. I've coded in both.)

  89. Re:You are dangerously irrational. Seek help. by lcrawford · · Score: 1
    umm, so in this free state with a bunch of cowboys running around with AK-47's what's to prevent a couple of people from busting out with a better wepon, or organizeing a large number of people to impose totalitarianism?

    I think one constant is that people are baisically evil. This is what makes the free market system work better than communisem. The free market system relies on everyone takeing everything they can, and communisemn assumes that people will work for the good of all.

    The problem is that when you get a bunch of guys in one place, without any power checks other than eachother, they tend to look for other, weaker bunches of people to beat/kill/rape/harass/etc... The clan movement is a good example of this. On a much smaller scale, this can be observed on any grammer school playground. How often does the bully get his ass kicked? not real often. What about the class nerd? every other day. The nice and/or nonviolent guy always gets reamed in this situation. Hard. I know. I used to be the nice guy. I'm not anymore. This is the problem with the pack. They only attack those who can not or will not fight back effectively, exactly the people who do should be protected, and usually loose interest at the first sign that their target is capable of inflicting even minor bodily damage in return, unless they are angry, or drunk, or otherwise inebreated.

  90. Global Domain Name Registering?!? by Psyko · · Score: 1

    I didint get a chance to scan all of the comments you guys threw out there yet but I doubt this one has been touched yet. In order to register a domain with all of the individual countries out there, like domain.com, then domain.com.jp, domain.jp, domain.com.de, domain.de, etc. etc. to cover every contry, is there anybody who's found an easier method than contacting the individual registrar's listed for each country? Isint there a way to globally register a name with every domain registry on earth?

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    1. Re:Global Domain Name Registering?!? by Jim+Tyre · · Score: 1
      In order to register a domain with all of the individual countries out there, like domain.com, then domain.com.jp, domain.jp, domain.com.de, domain.de, etc. etc. to cover every contry, is there anybody who's found an easier method than contacting the individual registrar's listed for each country? Isint there a way to globally register a name with every domain registry on earth?

      The closest I know of is NetNames:

      NetNames handles everything from single .com and .co.uk domain registrations to overseas registrations in over 200 countries. Our Global High Risk Package registers your name in the countries where names are most at risk. Contact the Corporate Services department of your local NetNames office for further information.
  91. DynoDNS service not answering by AngusSF · · Score: 1

    'Tain't answering right now. What good is a DNS service if something like slashdotting it overwhelms it?

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  92. WHAT???? by LF11 · · Score: 1

    As I understand it, the government created Arpanet (I don't remember what it stands for) as a method to communicate reliably over large areas in the event of a major nuclear war. The government funded the beginnings of the Internet, but the Internet and Milnet broke apart. The Internet is completely a civilian construction. The government *SHOULD* keep its hot hands out of the Internet, but Arpanent and Milnet are their toys.

    Thus, the Internet had roots that were funded by the government, but the Internet itself was built by universities and other civilian organizations.

    Yeesh. Trollers come up with the dumbest stories!

    -lf

  93. Re:Bullshit. by lcrawford · · Score: 1
    your kidding, right?

    you cant honestly be that stupid. Compuserve and AOL createing the internet? You need to find your crack dealer and shoot him. He must have sold you some bad shit.

    ARPAnet was started in 1969 by the military with the help of universities. This was the beginning of the internet. It switched to TCP/IP in 1983. CompuServe and AOL have never been that significant in provideing backbone. They pretty much just provide a cheap and easy way for people to connect.

    Did you say netscape created the internet? dude, do you realize that netscape is a BROWSER, mearly sending http commands and parseing the resulting HTML? something I can do with a telnet client with a scrollback buffer, albeit quite a bit slower? The internet was created on a bunch of PDP-11's. Way before sun, Cisco, or the totally irrelivant Microsoft. Sun and Cisco have made a good portion of the hardware running the internet now,but microsoft is not a significant player in any market but the client (browser... like i said, most people with a ref book and 2 brain cells can do it with a telnet client, if they wanted to.) The founders of sun and Cisco would be nothing if not for acidemia. If it wasn't for BSD, solaris wouldn't be here. and the freaking cisco routers where created at a university! Gah. DARPA (the military) funded the implamentation of TCP/IP in BSD (at a university), that was later taken by SUN, and pretty much everyone else. TCP/IP is a DARPA protocoll. the goverment has fucked up some shit, but give credit where credit is due. they made the internet, long before Sun, Microsoft, Netscape,Cisco, or even myself was even a glimmer in somone's eye. get _your_ facts straight, redneck.

  94. Re:TotalNIC (and GraniteCanyon.com) by Calz · · Score: 1
    I have also used TotalNIC without too much difficulty, after having it recommended to me by a friend.

    I've also been using GraniteCanyon, a free service, as my DNS provider.

    Everything seems fine so far. I've had my domain for a month or so with no problems.

  95. Domain Names at opensrs.org by Koensayr · · Score: 1

    Hey $15 is nuts for a domain name. Check out http://www.opensrs.org (it might be .com) for domains at $10 and changes are made over the web. Its the best.

    1. Re:Domain Names at opensrs.org by Ronin+X · · Score: 1
      From their site:

      OpenSRS is designed for "Internet Solution Providers" (Internet Service Providers, Web Hosting Companies, etc...) who process registrations for end users/organizations as part of their solution offering. OpenSRS is not for end users, or anyone who registers less than 25 domain names a year.

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    2. Re:Domain Names at opensrs.org by Koensayr · · Score: 1

      Hey I know that they are only open to small time people, check out www.levindustries.com or E-mail Josh at josh@levindustries.com, tell him I sent you.

  96. Too Late by SparkyB · · Score: 1

    I registered sparkyb.net for $15/year from doster.com. They were great and easy. You are on your own as far as DNS but I got Public DNS to work after a week of playing (www.granitecanyon.com). Doster has now raised their rates to $25/year. I'm glad I registered for 5 years in advance.

  97. jumpdomain.com for 15$ by StopLifePatents · · Score: 1

    http://www.jumpdomain.com/ is only 15$ per year, they use OpenSRS.org (for 8$-12$ per year), so the administration is easy and nice. registration by credit card is immediate. very personal service answering fast.

    i know several people that are waiting since weeks for totalnic to fix some domains that are in limbo there. ugly.

    kind regards philippe, http://A-Z-Internet.com/dns/

  98. $20 a year... by A.+Lynch · · Score: 1
    Here's one: www.eznetdomains.com.

    They offer domain registration for $20 a year, with no minimum contract length.

    A. Lynch
    http://sprawl.net

  99. $17 registration (and free DNS parking to boot!) by shiwala · · Score: 2

    How about DomainMonger.com? They charge $17 for one year, and the rates decrease if you register for multiple years at a time. They offer free DNS parking and do not charge fees for ownership transfers. Plus they don't retain any right to take your domain from you in the future. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

  100. Trivialization of Free Speech by Amphigory · · Score: 2
    Remember when free speech was about allowing the communist party? Or open discussion of serious societal problems (cf. Howl by Ginsberg). Or any kind of literature... Or even "give peace a chance!"? Or freedom of religious expression and exploration?

    And now the best we can do for censorship is a few words that only crepuscular fools use anyway in our domain names. I'm not sure whether that means that there is hardly any censorship, or whether it means that we have so thouroughly censored our own intellects that we are no longer dangerous anyway.

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    1. Re:Trivialization of Free Speech by RedGuard · · Score: 1

      Isn't the idea of free speech that you defend
      even when you find the speech in question offensive, irrelevant or even trival.

    2. Re:Trivialization of Free Speech by Amphigory · · Score: 2
      I will agree to all of these except possibly irrelevant. The point of free speech is not freedom to use dirty words -- it is freedom to express ideas. Name me one idea that cannot be adequately expressed without vulgarity?

      Don't get me wrong. I think NSI and other registrars limiting this is silly and a waste of time. But I also think it is silly to argue about it.

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    3. Re:Trivialization of Free Speech by jmorse · · Score: 1

      As usual, someone on /. misses the point entirely. If we allow corporations to become the arbiters of our morality, we are essentially giving up on any possibility of having a free & open society. The greatest tyranny typically starts in the most innocuous of places. It may start with a few (agreeably) offensive strings in a URL, but what if they start censoring things like georgewbushisevil.com or stopthechristiancoalition.org? It's just a matter of adding a few lines to their evil text string files/records. Plus, the fact that they won't even *disclose* their policy up front (I went through hell to get it) makes it even more insidious.

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  101. Re:what about .cc? CC DOMAINS ARE CRAP. by Axemaster · · Score: 1

    Spot.cc is total CRAP. They reserve the right to place BANNER ADS on your damn domain (no, I'm not kidding, see the section titled "How can you offer FREE URL forwarding when others charge for this service?" listed 3/4 down the page, here . They will CHARGE YOU A YEARLY FEE for the 'option' of no banners. Thats sick. In other words, its url forwarding. They'll 'forward' your domain to wherever you want, but they'll also be kind enough to slam some banner ads on your site in the process. Unless of course you send them some more cash on top of your registration fee for the priveledge of no banners. I do not own a cc domain, this is what I picked up from reading their site. But I think it's sad. Very sad. - Axe

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  102. sounds like a good business to get in by alprazolam · · Score: 1

    lots of unhappy consumers

  103. OpenReward.com - Domain profits to OSS coders by OpenSpace · · Score: 1
    I dont know if anyone has seen it before. It is a project I am working on. I plan on offering services with a part of the profits being given out to free software coders. Monthly votes on various projects will decide who gets the rewards.

    http://www.openreward.com is the address.

  104. Email Interface by datajack · · Score: 1

    One tyhing you seem to be forgetting is that, once you have an account with them, you can use their email interface like NSI is trying to phase out.
    All I have to do is send a specially formatted and PGP signed email to them (Just like Nominet).
    of course, I have this is all script driven so registering a domain is now only a five minute task :)

  105. UK Registrars by Awel · · Score: 2

    I`ve had some difficulty recently with easyspace.co.uk: registering is nice and cheap, but it`s only after you`ve forked out that you discover that if you`re not hosting your site on their servers, they don`t want to know. I`ve had no reply to several emails asking them about changing the DNS to point to my computer, and a friend was forced to pay for a mailbox service he didn`t want.

    However, I can`t seem to find any other registrars in the UK that are at all decent. Either they`re incredibly pricey, or they`re entirely geared around website hosting and don`t even mention the possibility that a domain name can point to your own computer (or even have anything other than www. on the front of it). As it happens, I want the domain name for more than just a website, so even if I could afford it, a web hosting package is no good to me.

    Still, I registered the domain name with easyspace, and now I can`t figure out how to get my hands on it at all. Which is more than slightly annoying.

  106. how about cutting a deal by liebi · · Score: 1

    it seems quite a number of slashdot users register a significant amount of domains. why not ask all those registrars mentioned above for a discount? they would get a ton of business and we would get a better price ... (and providing constructive criticism how they can improve their service would be thrown in for free)

    note: i admit I got bored by the growing amount of crap in this discussion and didn't check all the posts ... sorry if someone already brought this up

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  107. But that doesn't answer the actual question by SeanNi · · Score: 2

    Ok, but that's not really an answer. That only explains what happens if Joker, specifically, dies.

    But the vastly more useful question is in the general sense. What happens if I register with [Reg Company X] and [Reg Company X] goes belly up?

    ie: if Joker goes under, then you say CORE takes over. So what happens if CORE goes under? Does someone else take over? So what happens if you follow it up the chain to the point where there's no-one to take it over?

    Or, assume you're with a company (not Joker, obviously) that doesn't do it "through" anyone else? What happens if they go kaput?

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  108. domainvalet.com is good by Joe_NoOne · · Score: 1

    I used domainvalet.com. They require their banner ad on top, but otherwise they do free domain parking, or they give you 5 Megs for your own web page. The only cost is the $70 for 2 years with internic.

    For instance :

    http://www.this-spot.com

  109. $14.99 - WWW.DISCOUNTDOMAINREGISTRY.COM by davidlane · · Score: 1

    HTTP://WWW.DISCOUNTDOMAINREGISTRY.COM I noticed that their prices were only $14.99 ! I have just registered 14 domains and it only took me about 5 min. for the whole thing. They have a really easy control panel and great support!

  110. Dotster.com by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    I LOVE dotster.com. I paid $15 flat for a domain, no Network Solutions fee like InterNIC tacks on. I think they are now $25 flat fee for a year, and you get discounts and stuff. I think you cna get a name for 10 years for like $150. The site charges NO fees for moving URLs, and you have a web based login, where you can manage your accounts, change where your URL is pointing to, etc. I have friends who used InterNIC who have switched to Dotster for both price and ease of use. In otherwords, unlike InterNIC, you do not have to spend time on the phone with them simply to get a domain relocated.

  111. No, try nic.cc by marcus · · Score: 1

    I registered with them last year, no problemo and service has been flawless.

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  112. .nu sucks by mattc · · Score: 1

    NU charges you every time you need to change your contact information or dns info. you are PUNISHED for keeping your information up to date! WTF?

  113. AC Can't hack it by jmorse · · Score: 1

    funny...these type of posts almost always come from ACs. Can't you come up with something better? Oh, wait. Then you wouldn't have posted anonymously... ...consider the source

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  114. Re:OpenSRS (Have you used it???) by toast0 · · Score: 1

    The company i work for is an opensrs affiliate, it seems to work perfectly (although i'm not sure about renewals yet.... was in the test environment but i didn't see it in the live environment, not a problem for another 10 months at least but...)

    I'd give you the url to go buy domains through us, but i'm not happy w/ the prices so i won't advertise ($25 is way too much if it costs us $10)

  115. NPSIS by NatePWIII · · Score: 1

    Like I've said in the past you can't beat us for the average guy who just wants to register one or two domain names...


    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson
    NPS Internet Solutions, LLC
    www.npsis.com

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  116. EasyDNS for self-serve DNS administration by Mr.Furious · · Score: 1

    I've had great success with a company called easydns.com. You register your domain name with them, and they pass it through to Network Solutions who bills you. The great thing is they provide your DNS services for you, so you don't have to run BIND. I need this because I want to run my own servers off my cable modem connection (which is not static IP) with a real domain name. If I reboot my machine and my IP changes, I can update it at the easydns.com website and it will propogate in as little as an hour (you have full control over your SOA values, and I put my TTL as low as an hour.)

    It is also a good service for people who don't want to run BIND but also don't want to call their ISP tech supp each time they want an A record added or MX record changed. Check it out - it's $25 per year per domain, on top of the $35/year netsol charges.

    On top of all this, easydns runs their site using Linux / PHP! They also have a very clean, easy to use interface with NO AD BANNERS! How can you not support a company like that!

    [BTW I am not affiliated at all with them, I just like to promote goodness when I find it]

  117. BulkRegister by waldoj · · Score: 2

    Twice today my phone rang unnecessarily -- BulkRegister was vocally spamming me. I was called by some brainless little twit that had never heard of Tucows, and didn't seem to be at all interested in my protests.

    So, looking for a registrar? Don't use Tucows. Instead, put your energies into making a telephone RBL. :)

  118. NOT TUCOWS by waldoj · · Score: 1

    Bah. Don't use *BulkRegister* -- use Tucows! Preview doesn't help the stupid. :)

  119. Re:Who cares...how to change registrars by LordDracula · · Score: 1

    I totally agree that NSI sux. I work for a large web hosting company, and we unfortunately deal with them for most domain registrations we process. :^(

    As for changing the registrar for your domain, the Network Solutions site actually has instructions on how to change *to* them: http://www.networksolutions.com/catalog/domainname /change-registrar/.

    You should be able to get similar information from your registrar of choice. Register.com has their version at: http://www.register.com/faq/transfer-register.cgi? 1|1181650281|.

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  120. Re:Saving Stories... [ was Re:OpenSRS] by yetisalmon · · Score: 1

    Thanks captain.

  121. Best Way to Redirect a domain? by gnarly · · Score: 1

    Ok, I registered my domain with DomainMonger now I would like to redirect that domain name to a
    webpage I already have set up.

    It appears companies like dnscentral.com will
    do this for $19/year + $20 setup. (though
    they offer lots of other services I don't want)

    Any other suggestions including:
    1.) Cheap
    2.) Good Policies
    3.) company which uses free software?

    For the moment, I'd rather not set up OpenSRS.

    Thank you kindly for your constructive suggestions.

    -Chris

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