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New Anime Block Starts Tonight Cartoon Network
Silverhammer writes "Just a reminder that the new five-hour Saturday night Toonami block starts
tonight on Cartoon Network. It includes the american premieres of three of Bandai's new (or at least newly dubbed) anime series: Yu Yu Hakusho (11pm EDT), Pilot Candidate (12pm), and Gundam 0083 (12:30pm)." Also in the list is
old favs Tenchi, Bebop, and Outlaw Star as well
as the non-anime but still cool Justice League, which
I've been enjoying, but is it just me, or are there
only like 4 episodes that they just keep looping? I'll be Tivo'ing each
of the new shows for a few weeks in hopes that they
are good.
I'm still first in line to vote for a Toonami channel.
When Tenchi divxes flood Usenet and the streets of New York, now we will know who to blame. Thanks Taco, for making my day.
I might get modded down for this, but could someone please clarify for me why anime is so popular? I mean, it's just a Japanese form of animation, and we have all kinds of great animation in the US, with shows like Family Guy and Futurama. Of course, I've seen some great anime-ish type video games like Jet Grind Radio for the Dreamcast, which uses this weird cel shading technique. I'm just genuinely curious as to why anime is so popular, I haven't seen much of it in the mainstream but among certain crowds it seems really popular.
It's because of the many genres that you find all the time in anime but very VERY rarely in American cartoons. Sword-and-sorcery fantasies, superhero adventures, supernatural ghost stories, mecha space operas, cyberpunk thrillers, high school kung-fu comedies...
And then there's all the "mundane" comedies and dramas that just seem so sweet and moving when done as anime but are obsurdly overwrought when done in Hollywood.
Mind you, there's nothing wrong with Futurama or the Family Guy, but you're comparing apples and oranges. It's all a matter of style...
More Gundam :\
Naturally more anime on TV excites me, until I hear it is only on Cartoon Network. Perhaps its time to write a letter campaign to Teletoon to get some of these shows like Outlaw Star, Tenchi and so on put on Canadian (bleech) cable.
Anyone else with me?
While I'm glad that some good anime (case in point Cowboy Bebop) is getting some 'mainstream' play, there's a dark side to CN's airing of the shows:
1) The dubbing of most anime is crud. For shows like CB, you get a great feel for the characters when you can hear the original voice acting, since much more thought goes into voice acting selection for the original as opposed to the dub.
2) Again, using CB as an example: The editing. If you're gonna put a show in 'Adult Swim', then let it stay true to it's original release form. Bebop's had an entire episode yanked (for quite a silly reason) and a numbre of scenes cut. Granted, I don't want Cartoon Network to become a hentai crap-flood, but if you make the decision to put a show on, put the damn thing on as it was meant to be seen.
I bring up these points since often times it's quite easy to dismiss some really quality anime when you dont have the complete experience.
-------- The thought plickens....
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Does Cartoon Network ever show Speed Racer? Is there any cable channel that shows it?
Stuff that... (yawn)
Donate background CPU time to fight cancer.
how much are they going to change in the translation? because in most cases (take DBZ for example) things get radically changed through translation (master roshi is actually a teen seeking lech in the japanese version . . . i love it :). :)
anyway, it's still more anime to waste my life on . . . i can't complain
If this is "Adult Swim" why are the shows dubbed? I was under the impression that the majority of adult anime viewers preferred unedited, uncut, subtitled anime.
If it doesn't have Urotsokidoji or La Blue Girl, or I suppose Angel Of Darkness, a lesser known favourite, I'm not watching it.
Hentai, good wholesome programming for the entire family!
Given that the first show you list starts at 11pm I'm thinking you mean the following shows to be 12am and 12:30am. 12pm is noon. I don't know why people insist on using such a stupid thing as a 12 hour clock to represent a 24 hour day.
I'm a big fan of anime as well ...
but today is a sad day for animation ...
RIP Mr. Jones - you were one of a kind..
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One notes that Yu Yu Hakusho is a Funimation title, not a Bandai title.
Oh, for the day that we can air Evangelion...
Besides the whole, "you mean there's actually more than four episodes?!?" problem, I'm somewhat dissapointed with the over-the-top plotlines. With the exception of the Atlantis two-parter, every other episode I've seen so far has taken place in far off space locations.
It's a matter of taste, of course, but I'd prefer they tone the whole "other planet as a backdrop" thing down and get to plotlines that were closer to the Batman and Superman type stories.
>we have all kinds of great animation in the US
"Well, no we don't. We have the Simpsons and we have Futurama and that's pretty much it."
The Grich who stole Christmas by Chuck (R.I.P.) Jones. The Iron Giant. There's plenty more. Shame you don't get out more.
If your dead, then stop fucking posting to slashdot. Dumb ass dead people. Your just like the niggers, spicanos and jews.
I am into the copy and paste.
totally non-tech related.
/. is NEWS FOR NERDS. That's why anime news matters. Anime is nerdy (in North America, anyways).
...but you sure edited the crap out of it. In my original submission, the shows were on Cartoon Network, "American" was capitalized, and midnight was 12 AM. Bleh.
American's are extremely narrow minded when it comes to producing animated series. Until relatively recently if it was animated it was for pre-teen kids. The Simpsons changed that to a degree; Now if it's animated it's either for pre-teens or it fits in The Simpsons slot.
The Japanese attitude appears to be "Is it possible to do this story live-action? No? Make it anime then."
Eastern Daylight Time returns at the end of March. Currently we are on Standard Time.
How nice that Chuck Jones and LNB&W die on the same day. Piss on history some more, why don't you? Screw anime, give me classic Warner Brothers!
If using Linux is about choice, how come people complain when I choose to use Windows?
It would be nice if they'd have decent shows. Why would I want to watch something called "Cowboy Bebop" or that crappy Dragon Ball Z? Give me something with a plot. Akira is fine. Even some of those Gundam Wing style shows are good. But this Dragonball Z-esque slew of shows is very gay.
Then again, I'm an adult. I stopped watching cartoons when I was about 10.
In no particular order:
:)
Animaniacs, Pinky & The Brain, The Tick (cartoon version), Seinfeld.
'Nuff said
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Can anybody suggest a Wishlist to grab the occasional anime movie that comes up, without also getting "Scooby Doo on Zombie Island" and "Race for your life charlie brown" as well? Movie/Animated doesn't cut it, and there's no "Animated/Non-children" bleh
Encore runs 2-3 anime movies a week, and it appears the only way to catch them is to go through the schedule every week or so.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.
I've never been able to make the connection between the "news for nerds" thing and anime. Especially when Cmdr Taco already takes care of his anime fix via Anime Fu.
Am I the only one here who doesn't see the connection? Maybe it's the "stuff that matters" part...in which case I'll just go away (for now).
It would be nice for the other %50 or more (guess) of /. users if the word "America" or "American" would appear in these posts so that the rest of the world can ignore an article that has no relevance to them at all..
I'm a perfectionist but I'm trying to cut back.
And Samurai Jack, for example (the animation is more interesting than the plots, though).
And what about Spike and Mike's animation festivals? It's not all good stuff, but I've discovered some stuff there that I sure like (such as Don Hertzfeldt's work)
evangalize the marvelously funny Invader Zim... Invader Zim Lots of anime' influence of in the style, and imo a cartoon that should matter for nerds.
I've never been able to make the connection between the "news for nerds" thing and anime.
Go here. Look under "Exclude Stories." Check "Anime." It's not that hard...
TiVo is the best thing to happen to Toons since color. Everyone should go get a TiVo Series 2 (AT&T Branded units is $299, you don't need AT&T cable at all, it's just branding). TiVo 4 Ever!!!
Isn't that supposed to be AM?
It's funny/sad but there are 20 year old kids--men actually--in the Marines, overseas, with gun in hand, doing the tough business of protecting this country.
You've never actually met a real Marine, have you? Or anyone in the Armed Services, for that matter. I should introduce you to some of my friends, such as Andrew the Everquest nut who is now in Army Intelligence serving as a Korean translator, or Tia the goth raver who is now a medtech at Travis AFB, or James the Champions GM who was a mechanized infantry seargent in the Gulf War...
Hmm..
Lots of posts here wondering what people see in anime, especially the more adult-oriented material.
Lots of posts in the Chuck Jones thread saying how much they loved and grew up on Chuck's features, even though many were aimed at adults.
What makes comedy animation so much more acceptable than dramatic animation?
If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.
Comparing all of anime to children's programming, as was done a few posts up, shows pretty much a lack of familiarity with the genre. As for animation festivals mentioned above, there may be some great stuff there, but how many of us have a chance to go to one? I certainly would have had I heard of one coming to my city, but this has never happened afaik.
Therefore, anime is popular to a large extent, at least from my point of view, because it frequently combines outstanding animation with challenging topics or great futuristic plotlines. Now before you start mentioning Pokemon or DZ, yes, obviously there are inferior shows/features, but that is true of any genre.
To ask "why does anyone like this stuff" pretty much means that either you don't like it, or never had interest in it, and probably never will. Which is fine, of course. But I think if you have any interest, a much better question would have been, "I know a lot of people like this, what do you recommend I check out?"
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I personally have yet to see a single anime series I really liked. Some are okay, sure, in a "Dexter's Laboratory is a pretty good show" way, but none have been excellent, in a "Futurama is fucking amazing" way.
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I not an anime fan but I do ahve to call you on the inferiority of Linux. When I need software for Linux, it's there. From aalib to zgv, I can do whatever I need to do. If that bothers you, too bad.
Oh, now you wanna play "my dad can beat up your dad"? For crying out loud. My father was a aircraft mechanic in the Korean War. Now he's retired and spends his days playing with his dog, building models in the basement, and watching 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'.
Most of the time when they announce some old actor or director passing on, I may feel some tinge of sadness, but generally it is as if hearing about a stranger. Hearing about Chuck Jones made me incredibly sad, much more than I ever would expect. But I guess it makes sense, this man has defined so much of what we know about animation. He created idols that are essentially timeless. I'm very glad his work will live on, but I think this is one person we can all agree we shall miss.
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Just because your local cable or DSS provider doesn't carry this particular US network doesn't mean you can't get it at all. Those of you who at least live in the western hemisphere and have a relatively unobstructed horizon in the direction of the equator can get themselves a C-band dish and watch along with us.
As for the Europeans or Asians, all depends on what satellites you can see. Not that you bother checking before you complain about how stories like this affect "only" the United States...
Chuching! Wahoo! Something to do for a person who was wondering what to do on a saturday night! --theKiyote
So this is "News for Nerds" and "Stuff that Matters"?
Seriously?
Not saying that it's not a good idea, but everything they do is so heavily edited it's pathetic. Consider Outlaw Star. That series dealt with sex a lot (i.e. Gene was called a space cherry, not a space rookie) in the original, but Cartoon Network cut all of that out (including all of episode 23, which explains where Gene gets those four uber-powerful caster shells). I haven't been able to get my hands on anything but eps 1-4 and 23, but I'd be willing to bet that Gene was sleeping with Suzuka and Aysha, too. They also edit out any blood for some reason.
The translation of Cowboy Bebop wasn't horrible, aside from the standard censorship, but the voice acting was terrible. The guy who talks Spike just doesn't know how to get those subtle gradations of emotion in his voice that were in the original (we're not talking soap operas here, Spike is pretty stoic, but even stoics betray some emotion in their voices). Just compare the end of session 6, Sympathy for the Devil in the subtitled and dubbed versions to see exactly what I mean.
I'm all for anime on TV (I've become an anime freak of late), but, damnit, they need to do it right! I don't object to dubbing as long as the translation, lip syncing, and voice acting are all done well. Dumping the freaking censorship is also a good idea.
If I really want to get my anime off of cable, I find that the Action channel tends to do the best job overall (no censorship, and they even do both subbed versions from time to time).
BlackGriffen
Vulnerable teenage boys, and WSJ op-ed writers, and Federal Reserve chairmen, the list goes on. Can you imagine, there are actually grown men who believe in that Objectivist crap? They want to remake the world, in all its complexity, to fit their simple-minded theories. It's like they are perpetually two years old.
...wearing a skin-tight topless leather jumpsuit, with cutaway buttocks and transparent crotch panel.
I can't stand anime, but I'll still watch. I've watched a lot of it. The more I see, the more I watch. Why? To find out what the obssession is. If anime wasn't the cult phenomena that it was, I probably wouldn't care, but as it is, I'm always searching for a reason.
Still, I don't often find more than what I expect. Women are still treated like crap in them. They play either the hypo-slut, or a super demure handmaiden, or just a whacked out cartoon version of Lucy. The men, well, you usually can't tell they're men by appearance. The artwork is shoddy and derivitive. It reminds me of an article on The Onion "UN to drop vowels on Bosnia." Perhaps we should have a "UN to drop noses on Japan."
But still, I watch.
Could someone give me a link or tell me what the full schedule is for the 5 Hr Toonami block tonight, so I can set up my VCR?
bah, who needs karma (or karmic penalty?)
.. which implies that by reading/watching sci-fi you're a "geek", that you don't conform to the standard pop culture trends.
.. but it still hearkens back images of sci-fi fandom of the 70s.
1. yu yu hakusho was dubbed by funimation, not bandai... basically, the people who do the dub of Dragon Ball/DBZ. i suppose you'll hear a lot of familiar voices...
2. anime fans --> nerds..
okay,
in the 70s, anime fandom was very tiny.
70s anime fans were also interested in sci-fi.
ergo, at sci-fi conventions, anime would also be played.
ergo, anime and sci-fi are connected.
zoom to the 90s, anime fans are much more numerous, and hail from all walks of life. you don't see many large sci-fi cons, and many of those are visited by older people (in their *gasp* 30s and 40s!)
however, the association between anime and sci-fi hasn't worn away. while only a "few" fans may still be geeks by the modern definition, it still has its connection to sci-fi of the 80s.
for many years, people were talking about "mainstreaming anime" -- to make anime so ubiquitous with pop culture that it would no longer be restricted to the self-declared 'geeks'.
we don't hear arguments on usenet anymore, saying that anime should be mainstream. that's because it's on tv, it's in the malls, and very nearly everywhere else we look now. there are lots of childrens anime shows on tv nowadays (with more coming!), as well as shows for teens and adults. anime is, pretty much, mainstreamed.
we don't read about individuals and their first anime experiences anymore. heck, 'anime' itself is almost a household word, and will probably be added to the english dictionary in another few years.
so, anime isn't 'geek' culture anymore, it's 'mainstream'/'pop' culture.
or something. this isn't a complete argument. i'm anonymous. mwahahaha. the end.
That's why I moved to the US!
"Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
Midnight is 12M Noon is 12N, there is no 12AM and 12PM, 12 o'clock is a meridian time.
And, by the way, the new millenium began Jan 1, 2001.
First of all, this block IS Adult Swim. 0083,
PC, Yu Yu, and Bebop are rated TV-PG and TV-14.
Bebop's censorship was the best of its kind.
With RFB pt. 1 as an outlier, most episodes
ran ENTIRELY UNEDITTED, and SCENES WERE NOT
CUT OUT(a couple were shortened by a couple
of frames). Bebop's voice acting is not
terrible but terrific. A lot of people
disagree on Spike and Faye's voice, but it's
entirely a PREFERENCE. Spike's English voice
does a fine job. Don't say it "sucks" just
because you prefer the Japanese version.
For more information on the shows, check this page out. Hope you all enjoy the new block. - Matt, AS:TF Webmaster
Your typical European TV show is a reality hidden camera show about two poofy fags living in
Amsterdam and dying of AIDS. Europeans eat up slop like that as though it were sweet cakes.
Have you ever seen cowboy bebop? Simply amazing. Probably the best Telivsion series I've ever seen in the genras it encompases (sci-fi, action adventure, cyberpunk)
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
About time! I have been looking forward to YuYu Hakusho coming onto TV for some time now.
:)
I am VERY intersted in seeing how Bandai is going to cover the fact that:
A: The first few episodes are Horribly Boring. (to the point that if you have not seen later episodes they may very well turn you off of the series)
B: The insane amount of non-western religious/mythos stuff in there. While it is not exactly a historical drama, I am wondering if Bandai is going to have to resort to translation notes???
C: The INSANELY large amounts of GORE. YuYu is a VEEEEEEEERRRRYYYYY bloody show.
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The following anime is quite good, and accessible: Give Trigun a try. Trigun is a helluva good series with an interesting blend of the comedic and serious. You might also try Vampire Hunter D and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The former was the first, and only Ok. The latter was made recently, and was done better (interesting note: you won't find a subbed version of Bloodlust because it was originally done in English). Macross Plus (either OAV or movie should be good, I've only seen the OAV) is also quite good, and it has the same director as Cowboy Bebop, and the music composer, Yoko Kanno, also worked on both (though most of the Macross Plus stuff had a more decidedly pop bent than the jazzy Bebop soundtrack, you'll probably like Myung's theme).
There's also the standard fare (not the greatest, but entertaining and very accessible), Tenchi is fairly good (the series Cartoon Network calls Tenchi Muyo! [the 12 episode one] is actually an OAV that was heavily edited), Ranma 1/2 is hilarious (though guaranteed to never appear on Cartoon Network), Dragonball Z needs to be thought of as a live action comic book (if you ever hear the original Japanese voices it's funny because Goku sounds like a squirrel with his nuts in a vice), the City Hunter movie was pretty funny, and Slayers is priceless if you know anything about RPGs.
Once you've developed a taste for anime, you might want to check out Evangelion, Gasaraki, and Serial Experiments Lain. I would advise against starting out with them, though.
BlackGriffen
That's just great! Now I'll never be able to watch Toonami once channel 22 gets slashdotted!! Thanks for fucking it up for the little guy Taco!
*sigh* what's on Lifetime I wonder.. oh another Justine Bateman abusive husband movie..
Thanks for the off-topic moderation. The death of an animation great certainly has nothing to do with a discussion about US and Japanese animation. I'll try to stay more on topic next time.
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My father was a swabbie, and so was one of my older brothers. Neither of them watch cartoons, and neither play with legos, but neither appreciates Pablo Picasso, heavy metal music, an elegant proof, or great literature (my dad reads a good book he enjoys from time to time, but he hasn't really delved in to the classics yet). I appreciate all of those, and I enjoy legos, anime, and watching the standing waves under my faucet if I turn the water down and hold my hand close to it. Am I better than them for this? No. Are my tastes more sophisticated? Possibly, but I just prefer the term different. The false associate with "animation" = "for kids" is just like saying "Renaissance" = "art" or "really skinny" = "beautiful".
:P.
I wouldn't be bragging about being associated with unsophisticated people like that
"If I were as dumb as you, I could be a jarhead too!" --the navy brat's credo
BlackGriffen
Its been shown two or three times here in Aus ^_^
Yay me!
I saw one episode, and it didn't really impress me much. But then I don't like sci-fi, action/adventure, or cyberpunk.
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I doubt that it was cost that determined whether they would dub or sub. Dubbing will always be more expensive than a straight sub. For subbing you only have to translate/englishify and then add the text to the bottom. For a dub you have to translate/englishify, pay the people to do the voice parts, and pay artists to resync the lips (or bend over backwards to sync the new dialog to the old lips). For proof of this, look at the fan subs of popular anime that float around the net: all they used was a video editor, text, and enthusiasm.
The reason they dubbed is because they considered their audience to be half-literate morons who wouldn't watch if they had to read the dialog. That, and the fact that censorship is easier/less obvious if you don't have to worry about people who might understand the original dialog, too.
BlackGriffen
Is Robotech considered anime, or is it regarded the same as, say, Voltron?
I had high hopes for this about 20 minutes ago, when, aside from redubbing into English (and likely changed lyrics, but I don't fault them on songs), the intro was completely intact (including the Japanese title).
I should have known it would be bad when they changed one of the first lines, "It's my fault" to "It was an accident".
It seems they changed about 1/2 to 2/3 of the lines, at least. And not just little grammar changes, I'm talking completely different lines.
Plus, Kuwabara's voice just sucks.
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I usually don't rant on /. but I'm pissed. I posted this same goddam story, several weeks ago, and it didn't get accepted. What the fuck does this particular posting have that mine didn't? Why can't the admins of /. give a damn reason why an article is rejected? I even included some bits about Tenchi and Cowboy Bebop (aimed at Taco's tastes in anime, as well as my own). No dice.
/me ends rant.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Which is the best episode in the entire series - that sucks. It involves Gene needing to shoot a smutty video to get better caster shells and is generally a rather amusing episode. I got to watch the entire series when a friend of mine rented the DVDs from a local video store (which, due to its proximity to a tech college, has a fairly nice anime section). It's a pretty cool series.
I'd be willing to bet that Gene was sleeping with Suzuka and Aysha
I don't think so - at least not in the subbed episodes I saw. While Gene had definately had some fun with the waitress at home who's butt he's always grabbing (in the uncensored version, at least...), I highly doubt anyone had any sexual anything with Suzuka - she wanders off too much and just doesn't seem intersted in a sexual way with anyone on the craft. Gene definately arouses a sort of curiosity with her because she follows them around and helps them throughout the series.
I don't think anyone was interested in Aisha Clan Clan (at least, that's the spelling off Animefu). Although some other genres of anime might have people having relations with cat women, she seemed to be there more for comic relief than anything else - besides, Gene was too busy chasing Melfina and Suzuka.
The only one Gene might have gotten it on with during the series is Melfina, and late in the series at that. Although the full version has a scene were Gene tries to get it on with Melfina only to be stopped by Jim, I don't think he actually got it on later in the series - but he could have, I suppose. It's not too clear one way or the other.
(I'm trying to remember if there's a scene with Gene and Melfina in their underware in his room or not... I can't remember... I know the two of them get naked together at one time in the Naked Tube (Melfina helps control the ship by entering this tube which magically removes the clothing of all occupants) when Melfina uses it to help save Gene - but I don't think Gene was up for much of anything at the time and I'm not sure the two of them could actually touch or interact anywhere except in a sort of spectral plane of existance while in the tube.)
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
If they stay true to the series, this will be very good ^_^! I don't recall the first episode clearly enough to say whether they've cut anything out, but it doesn't appear so. The show does feature a very large amount of violence, so I imagine that it could be facing some of the same difficulties as Cowboy Bebop for censors. Will they be showing each episode, uncut, in order, and possibly doing it for more than the first season?
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As for buying anime, the above-mentioned Animefu gives links to AnimeNation; I've used Robert's Anime Corner Store before. You can also try looking for anime stores via Google. (Which, strangely enough, gives the exact two places I mentioned as the first and second links in the same order I mentioned - weird :).)
The best way to find anime though is to find a friend who likes it and watch what they have. That's how I found out about anime first and why I have a growing collection of anime DVDs.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
If this is "Adult Swim" why did I just turn on the TV and see a happy little square in the corner saying "TV-Y7 FV"? How are they going to attract adult audiences with Y7 shows?
If a smug, self-righteous asshole responds to a dumb, obvious troll, I think they should at least be moderated equally.
not toonami. However, why they call it Adult Swim is beyond me. The cartoons they're playing would fit better in the Toonami catagory. --theKiyote
Setup a wishlist to get ANIMATED SHOWS that are SUBTITLED.
Setup a wishlist to get ANIMATED SHOWS that have a rating higher than Y7.
Always triple thumbs up anything that's japanese anime. (regardless of whether or not you like it)
Do ONE thumbs down for any cartoon shows that show up that are completely out of your field (like My Little Pony).
One thumbs down seems to get Tivo to realize the genre's ok, but the subject matter is all wrong... 3 thumbs down seem to give Tivo the idea that everything about the show is wrong, which is not what you want...
It takes a while, but I've got my Tivo trained enough to pick up the Action network's saturday night anime about 60% of the time. (which is about my thumb hit for other shows as well...)
That's still not perfect, but it's still pretty cool to come home and find some anime I didn't even know was showing recorded automatically (Although Encore likes to show Appleseed way too many time...)
I totally agree with you.
The 312 posts in the Chuck Jones RIP story posted yesterday just wasn't enough. We needed to talk about that story in all the other threads.
Geez, everyone is acting like this is new. Its not! Adult swim has been around since august, but it only had one anime show which was Cowboy Bebop. Compared to the subbed dvd's, they didn't change a whole lot. Spikes utters of "ShIT" and "FUCK" were stripped as well as women in some of the pornos were covered up, but it was very acceptable when you consider what they've done to anime before.
It seems that the old favorites Outlaw Star and Tenchi were both still aired in their edited formats. Oh well, at least they decided to air the show intros. Overall, I like the new layout. The anime is presented conveniently on saturday, so I can stay up and watch them, record them too and the limited animation shows IE: Sealab 2021 are all on sundays. Nice layout, and it makes a lot of sense. Now if only they could air an uncut Big O and Outlaw Star.
13 year old white supremacists are shitty web designers.
Good for you guys.
Show me that smile again
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
Whether we're near the end
The best is ready to begin...
Stop crying about 1 mod point. Who cares what one person thought about your comment. You're not that important.
I can't believe they are putting gundam that late. There is nothing risque in this series, if not it's almost too serious... only 13 epsidoes, and i still even have my fansubs from my college hay days....(ahh good times) none the less... it's really undeserving that such a great series gets shafted for such a lowly time.... i will however wish that more people catch this series and watch it through.... great series for the gundam lovers and as well as those that would like a great story line. (Watch for the latter epsidoes for the mecha lover... heheheheh)
Go Gundam Stardust! Launch!
Shit. Could've fooled me.
Does anyone know what happened to Robotech? That was the coolest show and then I just didnt see it on cartoon network anymore...I mourned for weeks. :(
You can't please all the people all the time, but you sure can piss all of them off all the time.......
I notice that half of the comments here are just defending or speaking generally of anime, and the comments aren't closely related to the topic as other news posts. This should be enough to show you (Taco) that the majority of the community isn't interested in anime. It's not like half of the linux related posts are all about defending linux. You already have a website devoted entirely to anime. The minority who are interested in anime (the entertainment value of anime) can visit your Animefu site for anime news. Plus anyways, look at your news post title: "New Anime Block Starts Tonight Cartoon Network" That doesn't leave much open to discussion, as you've made countless similar news posts. Most end up criticizing or defending anime. The topic has been done to death. So now most of the discussions now are pointless, what are you guys trying to do? Convince another to go out and watch + enjoy anime? Convince another to STOP watching anime? Justify yourself (who cares)? Just stop posting anime news items, keep it to Animefu. The discussions about anime news on Slashdot end up the exact same every time - discussions about why anime is appealing - and the community has already had many intelligent discussions about that. I should mention that I watch anime regularly, but never visit Animefu...oh well.
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You're comparing movies to shows with 30 minutes of airtime. I think the reason that anime is pretty good is because the shows develop much deeper than what can be done in 30 minutes. It takes a full season to finish most shows i've seen. DBZ is a good example, even though the show is mostly full of people yelling and beating the crap out of each other, it spans over many episodes. Over here in the states, 30 minutes is what most shows get and not many shows are extended to 1 hour. Movie-wise, yes we have some good stuff, but if you talk about what is shown regularly on TV, anime is better.
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The story of the caster shells is great. The whole episode is just filler for the story of the casters. I just loved the idea of the casters.. as least once I saw that episode. If I ever end up DM a D&D campaign a caster like potion gun would be a good idea for a magic item based plot.
I still need to see EP 25 & 26. I have several diffrent AVIs of each, but they do not seem to play under any player I've found. I don't think I will ever take the time to see the Episodes prior to 23. The ones I saw on Toonami were just not that great.
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How bad they're going to do Megami Kouhousei (Pilot Candidate). I saw it about a year and a half ago by downloading from fansubbers. It's a decent show with a medium good plot. Let's just say I won't be buying it for the 100$+ for the series. I'm just curious how bad the dubbing will be.
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My guess is that they gave it the later slot not because of any spicy language or hot toon action, but because of the slower ploting over some of the middle episodes. I would bet that they are of the impression that the youngsters coming up would find the lack of explosions and derth of exposition less interesting that whatever runs against it on nickelodeon or the wb, perhaps never to return.
That said, I don't think this series is actually slow. In fact I think it is the best of the gundam series. The animation is top notch throughout, the story is excellent in premis and very well excecuted. If there is a negative, it's the absolute inability of the original writers to provide half decent names for anything. Hardly a problem unique to this particular series.
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Here's an unpopular opinion:
I think the real reason that american anime fanatics like japanese voice acting is that they're not japanese. NOT because it's any better than the english dub. If you're not listening in your native language (and especially if you don't even understand the language), then you're less likely to pick up on the awkwardness that a bad voice actor brings. Everything seems more "artistic" when you don't understand it.
That is my theory. For low-to-medium-budget anime, I'll bet the voice acting is just as bad, or worse, than the american dub. (For instance, the high-pitched girls' voices come to mind.)
However, you might be right that a big production like Cowboy Bebop has more thought going into the japanese voices, though.
That said, I usually watch a foreign film in the original language; it's just more fun. But for watching TV, when I am distracted by things around me or don't want to concentrate too hard, I prefer dubbing.
I still haven't seen the end of Daemon Rising, much less any of My Two Bobs...
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Typical example of the /. thing - totally indiviualistic fluff story...
Gotta love um tho, eh ?
Man. Some anime is so cool. I'm not trying to troll. But eeuuchh so much more of it seems like twice steamed crap. The japanese 'cute culture' just can't seem to produce anything that doesn't make me roll my eyes. I wanna log my vote if any cartoon network folks are reading...
no cute anime
no melodrama / soap opera anime
play more cool stuff like 'bebop'. Run something else created by the same guy, I'd be interested to see his other efforts.
I hate to say it but I have too because this is driving me insane. lol.
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This is just my opinion, but I'm starting to think Cowboy Bebop is one of the most over rated Anime I have ever watched. (Dont get me wrong. I love the show but...)
Every anime fan (and I do mean *every*) I talk too rants and raves about how awesome the story line in the show is..
Ok so the show has some bad ass animation (most of the time) and some pretty sweet music if you like the blues, but story line??!! There almost isn't one. I have the first 3 disks of the 6 disk set and I have seen 50++% of the later sessions on Cartoon Network. Aside from bits and peices carried over from one session to the next there really isn't anything tying them all together. I'd have to say that half the sessions are just filler and have no point at all.
I haven't seen *every* session yet so I could be wrong. Maybe they tie all of these bits and peices from every other session together to make a story, but I still wouldn't say it was much of one. It's decent but not great.
I personally think Outlaw Star beats Cowboy Bebop hands down as a series, even though the animation might not be quite as good (but in some eppisodes it is just as good if not better), and the music quality might not be as good (but personally I'm not a big fan of the blues so I could care less). I love the story AND the characters a lot better in Outlaw Star (except Spike who seems pretty cool, but not as cool as Gene heh...)
I still love Cowboy Bebop (one of my fave anime series), but I'm getting sick of all this hype. Its giving me a headache. I'd probably like the show more if there was more story line OR less filler crap.
Oh btw try not to bash me too much for my opinion
We don't have Toonami in our territory.
Its about time they got some real anime out there. First thing is Yu Yu Hakusho, now there is an anime that should have been out here long ago, instead we got Pokemon and Dragonballz >=P
Outlaw Star is ok, but clearly its a ripoff of Cowboy Bebop which is excellent and could never be as good. I think Yu Yu will be the first real taste of some classically funny Japanese anime in all of its gag-filled glory. The next thing that needs to happen is to start importing subbed anime. It sounds soo much better when you can hear the voices of these actors in Japanese. The voices are so much more animated (no pun intended), and also help one learn a new language =p Ok, well thats it for now, i am happy about the new 4 hour block, i was up watching for 3 hours straight, i missed yu yu, cuz i didnt know about it till last night as i was channel surfing. hehe
Slashdot sucks Anime Dick - enough said
I'm a long-time anime watcher. I got into it while in Japan in the army. While some of my friends got into the harder-core anime, I like the mainstream stuff (about equivalent of our NC-17). But, I still don't understand why the Cartoon Network would show Japanese porno? Is this what they think their watchers are interested in?
Robotech is a mix of three anime series: Mospeada, Macross and Southern Cross. And guess what...it was an american person that did it. He fucked up all the plot, renaming characters, changing this and that. Hope this wasnt explained earlier in the thread.
If your cable network carries the i-channel, you can sometimes get some subbed anime. (Along with the other crazy stuff they carry -- I'm still trying to figure out this [apparently Indian] game show). Granted, the non-Dragonball-Z stuff only comes once a week, but every little bit helps.
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the subject of U.S. vs Japanese animation is off-topic, sport.