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austad writes "Wired is running a story about how Aphex Twin has encoded a face into one of his songs. The face is visible when viewing the sound through a spectrograph. This is probably something I wouldn't want to see when coding in a dark room at 3AM. Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it, encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image."

263 comments

  1. that's very cool by Jacer · · Score: 1

    maybe a reason to buy the cd? even if you rip it at 320k/s though? what about burned cd's that'll keep the quality oh yeah, FP!

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    1. Re:that's very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      256 is CD quality when ripped right.

    2. Re:that's very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a lame excuse for a comment. U should be modded down for making an obviously offtopic question disguised as a "First Post".

    3. Re:that's very cool by Jacer · · Score: 1

      you're very right, it was, thanks for noticing!

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  2. WAV? by Mongr · · Score: 1

    I predict the widespread trading of wav files on nntp and p2p.

    Nuff Said

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    1. Re:WAV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      didnt get the first post you thought huh.

      pengwinux rules.

  3. A way to boost sales... by 11thangel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is one of the ways musicians can boost sales and get more CD's out: include special features in the encoding. This a) doesnt hurt people who just want the music and/or get screwed over by copy protection, b) doesn't force the consumer to buy anything specific (i.e. hardware, or even the CD in the not-as-legal sense of it) and c) adds something cosmetic, pointless, but nonetheless cool.

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    1. Re:A way to boost sales... by neksys · · Score: 1

      Conversely, it may just mean an increase in the sharing of the relevant sections of the song.

    2. Re:A way to boost sales... by Night+Goat · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes, except that it sounds like shit when you take a picture and make sound out of it. From the article:

      MetaSynth is a Mac-only application that can take any image and generate sounds from it. The software was widely used in The Matrix to accompany the movie's mind-bending bullet-speed special effects.

      Most musicians who use the application input abstract pictures because they can generate meaningful sounds. Scanned photographs tend to create a kind of discordant, metallic scratching. The program's creator, Eric Wenger, ran pictures of factories through it for some industrial techno compositions.


      So, really, you'd have to dedicate some of the CD to irritating noise, like Aphex Twin must have done.
    3. Re:A way to boost sales... by 56ker · · Score: 2

      The only way it's boosting sales is by the publicity caused by it. Has the introduction of copy protection led to decreased sales of the CDs by the artist it was first tried on - no - but more people have returned the CDs saying they don't work.

    4. Re:A way to boost sales... by KFury · · Score: 3, Flamebait

      c) adds something cosmetic, pointless, but nonetheless cool.

      Doesn't this describe music in its entirety?

    5. Re:A way to boost sales... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, but if you rip to .flac then you don't lose anything, so you could pirate and still see the face. With people using 700MB for a divx movie, sometimes even 1.4Gig, using 250MB for a .flac album is not really very much space...

      graspee

    6. Re:A way to boost sales... by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interesting point, but irrelevant, because that part of the slashdot story is completely false. (Surprise, surprise, I know) The image is almost entirely unaffected by compression.

    7. Re:A way to boost sales... by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      Yeah.. this is something that few would care about really. An amusement, notyhing more.

      Like.. that old Information Society track that was just one side of a 300bps modem transmission. Most people would skip it, after all, it's not pleasant to listen too.. and a few diehards would rig up a 1:1 transformer (or forgo the transformer) and run this thing through a modem, and see what it actually said.

    8. Re:A way to boost sales... by Piquan · · Score: 1

      So what'd it say already?

    9. Re:A way to boost sales... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, did you read the article? He didn't publicise it. It was only just discovered, and on a 3 year old record too.

    10. Re:A way to boost sales... by ch0ke · · Score: 0

      To the general public, Aphex Twin is irritating noise. However he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds on the face of the planet.

    11. Re:A way to boost sales... by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      Which album? They did it on a couple. On their most receant, Don't Be Afraid, it was information on how to get the last song. The song wasn't included on the CD, just the modem transmission about it. It gave you instructions to go to a website and download an ARJ. You then proceeded to go on a treasure hunt for all 16 ARJ peices. Get them all, and you could then decompress the WAV file of the final song, White Roses. The files are offline now but you can find copies of White Roses in MP3 format online (crappy quality unfortunately).

    12. Re:A way to boost sales... by cpeterso · · Score: 3, Funny

      he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds on the face of the p

      and he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds of his face

    13. Re:A way to boost sales... by CHUD-Wretch · · Score: 1

      One of the coolest things ever done by any artist. I was so excited when i heard the last track....i knew what i had to do. FYI : Kurt (InSoc) is now doing music/sound for games! Legacy of Kain (Soul Reaver) among others.

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    14. Re:A way to boost sales... by Darby · · Score: 1

      However he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds on the face of the planet.

      Your opinion of course.
      Mine is that no one has yet come close to Trent Reznor. Something to be said for being an awesome musician *and* arguably the best studio engineer on the planet.
      Of course to large parts of the general public NIN is frightening noise ;-)

    15. Re:A way to boost sales... by Grahf666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Doesn't this describe music in its entirety?

      That would be discounting the innumerable social, political, and cultural aspects of music, which is the entire point of music. Music as a reflection of culture, music as a medium for socio/political commentary... entire volumes could be written on just one aspect of the said uses for music.

      But oh no, music is "cosmetic and pointless." Now this is very true for most pop music these days (which is probably not what you meant), but not music as a whole.

      Granted, Aphex Twin isn't exactly pop music, so the point is moot anyway...

    16. Re:A way to boost sales... by Joe+Rumsey · · Score: 2

      According to the Wired story:

      The image doesn't appear in an MP3 file of the song; the compression algorithm destroys the image.

      Not having a CD or an MP3 of the song, I don't know whether that's true or not, but it's hardly slashdot's fault if it's wrong.

    17. Re:A way to boost sales... by matusa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't mean to nitpick, but I know quite a bit about Richard D. James, and this has nothing to do with sales.

      Actually, if you read the article, you'd note that this is from Windowlicker, released in 1999, and that neither RDJ nor his recording company have made any commotion about this fact.. so clearly publicity had nothing to do with it.

      This guy just loves messing around. He's ridiculously creative, and is trying out new things all the time. Recently in an interview he stated that when he composes, what he does is cause himself to go to sleep for a while, imagine a piece of music while he sleeps, and then wake up and try to recreate it as best he can.

      This may sound dorky or gimmicky, but it's amazing. I mean, if you are imagining the sound in a dream, it is an aural stream of conscience--you are not being inhibited at all by your abilities to use certain equipment, and hence the sound is as close to how you really want it to sound as possible, there being no such physical impediments (yes I just said the same thing multiple times. sorry, getting a point across).

      he's quite a phenomenon. I love him. On his recent CD he has a few tracks of prepared piano--I'm very impressed he broke into that realm. He's also collaborated with philip glass.

      He's a real creative genius.. his output spans many different styles; he is constantly coming up with new and drastically differing ideas...

    18. Re:A way to boost sales... by BtAFMB · · Score: 1
      So, really, you'd have to dedicate some of the CD to irritating noise, like Aphex Twin must have done.

      How exactly would you be able to tell that apart of the rest of Aphex Twin? *ducks*

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    19. Re:A way to boost sales... by Pathwalker · · Score: 2
      The way I used to show people 300-N-8-1, and the way I viewed the White Roses file was the following:
      1. Take the phone off the hook
      2. go to class
      3. get back
      4. check to see if the phone has stopped beeping, but still has power
      5. hit ATA in telix, as I hit play on the stereo, and hold the phone up to a speaker.
      If you don't own a copy of Peace and Love, Inc. the text file of 300-N-8-1 is included on the data disk of Don't Be Afraid.
      Or, if you are really really lazy, you can read 300-N-8-1 here.

      INSOC rocked when it came to hiding cool things on their cds. 300-N-8-1 was cool, White Roses was a blast to complete, and the chili recipe on the CD+G track of Information Society tasted great.
    20. Re:A way to boost sales... by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1

      I agree, anyone who listens to Richard D James' music would realize that publicity or popularity are not his primary concerns... In my opinon he's one of those musicians who's happy to make the money,mainly so he can buy more equipment (and tanks) to continue making music... he isn't in it for the women:) One of my favorite pieces of his is on surfing on sine waves where his friends dared him to make a track with a coke can and a square of carpet... and he did:)

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    21. Re:A way to boost sales... by Gibbys+Box+of+Trix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article states that the EP was released in 1999, and the face hasn't been announced by James or his record company. That hardly sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

      Aphex Twin isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea, I think you either buy this stuff or not, you're not going to be swayed to buy it because you can see a freaky face when you run it through certain software.

      I would, however, recommend Selected Ambient Works 85-92 as a gentler introduction to the man's work.

    22. Re:A way to boost sales... by lysurgon · · Score: 1

      Doesn't this describe music in its entirety?

      Hardly. I would call music perhaps the highest aesthetic, spiritual, intelectual and cultural acheivement of our species. It is one of the few elements of a society that is common across every nation, present in every civilization we know of back into tribal pre-history.

      If you've never been transported by the ecstatic alignment of harmonious sound and your own thought and activities, I suggest you leave your sterio on more often, or at least try some new tunes.

      In short, get jiggy with it, comrade.

    23. Re:A way to boost sales... by PK_ERTW · · Score: 1
      Doesn't this describe music in its entirety?
      Umm... no.

      "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" -Elvis Costello, 1983

      PK

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    24. Re:A way to boost sales... by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, I bought the CD too late. I didn't get it until last year, and by that time all the ARJs had been taken offline. Pity, as I'd rather like to get the track.

    25. Re:A way to boost sales... by KFury · · Score: 2

      I was 90% joking, 10% making a point.

      The point is this: Is it any fairer to dismiss things like fourier stenography as cosmetic and pointless than it is to dismiss the musical portion as such?

      It's obviously not pointless, as we're talking about it apropos of nothing, and when considering aesthetic works, how can anyone portion off aspects as being pointless and others relevant? Artistic works have to be taken by their whole.

  4. You don't have to buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just don't encode it into a lossy format. Geez. Since when did music on the internet == mp3?

    1. Re:You don't have to buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the AOL users took over.

      Also, it's music on the web now, not music on the internet. And, uh... Napster was a popular music-swapping web-site (not an application.)

      Atleast, this is what the TV tells me...

  5. That would... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    scare the living SHIT out of me alone in the oplab at night...

  6. I knew it by rebrane · · Score: 1

    I've had this CD since it came out -- you can definitely tell what part of the song contains the image. I tried various visualization programs but couldn't get anything too meaningful.. guess I shouldn't have given up.

  7. More resources: by neksys · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Find more info about the Aphex face, as well as some software to do same thing yourself
    here.
    Additionally, more information on it can be found here

    1. Re:More resources: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is the Windows equivalent of MetaSynth.

    2. Re:More resources: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How THE FUCK does reading the article, then POSTING A LINK FROM THE ARTICLE count as +3!!!!

      If you have mod points, READ THE FUCKING ARICALE BEFORE FUCKING MOD!!!!

      DAFT FUCKING SHITS!

  8. no it doesn't by Firlefanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image."

    I have an mp3 encoded @192kps, using the Nullsoft tiny fullscreen plugin displays the image just fine (its at the last few seconds of the 2nd track of the Windowlicker EP.

    1. Re:no it doesn't by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative
      I can confirm this. I tried it out when I first heard the story a month or two ago. It's not a checksum or some other digitally embedded data block, it's simply the spectrograph output. It doesn't change due to compression, it will just gradually degrade. MP3 quality is way more than adaquate.

      A few of his other songs do similar things, with spirals and other designs appearing in the spectrograph. But the windowlicker track contains a digitized image. Very cool.

  9. I hope it's not RDJ's face by Kargan · · Score: 1

    I got quite enough of that watching the "Come to Daddy" video, thank you.

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    1. Re:I hope it's not RDJ's face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, It is.

    2. Re:I hope it's not RDJ's face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black guys mouthing off at each other and trying to pull pussy but they're harshing interrupted by RDJ in a limo and then bee's fly out of the dogs mouth and the bees fire bullets with guns that fire bees? You're thinking of Windowlicker.

    3. Re:I hope it's not RDJ's face by shepd · · Score: 1

      >You're thinking of Windowlicker.

      In come to daddy, the TVs had the "Aphex" face. So did the kids chasing the old lady.

      I don't remember if that semi-human form that exited the TV had an Aphex face, and I'd rather not re-watch that video. Not that it wasn't good and all...

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    4. Re:I hope it's not RDJ's face by koogydelbbog · · Score: 1

      the bloke who did that video (chris cunningham) worked on a couple of the alien films and is currently filming Neuromancer...

      (um, make that 'WAS', http://www.director-file.com/cunningham/510.html (at the very bottom) seems to think it is dead)

      andy

  10. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  11. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was Stegosaurus! Jackass.

  12. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you are a doorknob.

  13. Good copy protection by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting way to get people to buy CDs instead of downloading them... how many people would actually download a song of Britney Spears' if pictures of her came with the songs that you buy? Yeah, the RIAA should just try this...

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    1. Re:Good copy protection by dimitri_k · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, Britney Spears hasn't gone techno yet, where encodings of digitized pictures can blend in with the song.

      The last paragraph of the article adresses this possibility specifically.

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    2. Re:Good copy protection by Jester998 · · Score: 2

      Wait a sec... 'Britney Spears' and 'song' fit together in the same sentence? I'm not sure that that's what *I* would call it.....

    3. Re:Good copy protection by von+Prufer · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that just be an incentive to continue creating superstars based on their looks so you crave their pictures?

    4. Re:Good copy protection by mgblst · · Score: 2

      Personally i would go further...

      Britney Spears hasn't started producing music yet, which she need to do, unless she encodes her pictures into others peoples music!

    5. Re:Good copy protection by shadowcabbit · · Score: 1
      how many people would actually download a song of Britney Spears' if pictures of her came with the songs that you buy?
      They do. It's called "the liner notes". Just like DVD extras, they're a factor in what CDs I choose to buy, even though sometimes it's really hit-and-miss.
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    6. Re:Good copy protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course there are pictures of her on the CD sleeve etc. Looks are all that matter with pop bands.

      What I'm confused about is why they bother having someone make music for them and releasing it in addition to having their pictures taken, when they could just release picture books or what have you of the "band" members. Oh, that's right, this isn't Hollywood..

  14. aphex twin by tps12 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Man, if ever there was a musician who deserves the geek limelight (geeklight?), it is AFX. Not only does he hack his instruments and work primarily (solely?) with homebrewed samples, but he has a fucking tank.

    Also, his music is amazing.

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    1. Re:aphex twin by eracerblue · · Score: 1

      these guys created a program to add extra info to images by watermarking them.

      they explain how they do it:
      1) a frequency transform
      2) add watermark
      3) inverse frequency transform

      ...and have the equations to prove it...

      shouldn't be too difficult to do similar things with audio.

      woo... salivate at the thought of all the hidden info that might be already encoded in images and cds you see every day!!

    2. Re:aphex twin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A cylindrical storage container for fucking in?

    3. Re:aphex twin by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

      Homebrewed samples? Nope, he samples old English kiddie records and porn movies.

      He hacks his instruments? He modified his 303 and that was it. He works all in software now.

      And let's face it, anyone who enjoys sitting around in a room and making cool noises by turning knobs and pressing buttons deserves the limelight, and that's a BIIIIIG list!

    4. Re:aphex twin by Cally · · Score: 2
      I used to work at Chrysalis Music Publishing, Mr James' music publisher (as opposed to record label - at the time Chrysalis signed him he was releasing on lots of different labels under different names.) Anyway the song copyright assignment forms duly arrived when he delivered the first album under the deal - this became "Ambient Works II". he had left every track untitled (as a deliberate policy.) Alas the MCPS (UK equivalent of BMI/ASCAP, they register music copyrights and royalty payments), not unnaturally, had a computer system which required a track to have a NAME before it could be entered onto the system. Cue many interesting calls back and forth between artist, management, Chrysalis, A&R rep, MCPS, PRS et al. IIRC they were eventually registered as "untitled - 01" to "untitled - 22" or somesuch.

      And if you haven't heard any of his stuff, check it out. There's nothing like it. The guy is a genius.

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    5. Re:aphex twin by RegularFry · · Score: 1

      He's done bits too his minimoog too, so I've heard. It's completely sacreligious, but it's him, so it's ok.

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    6. Re:aphex twin by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not just Aphex Twin that pulls circuitbending to make glitchy techno. I mean, there's a glitchy hip hop SCENE.

  15. Done before by Hatter · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's possible to see hidden images in the second Aphex Twin windowlicker track. Take a look here for instructions, then visit this site for a quality screenshot.

    1. Re:Done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Umm

      You do realize that the second Windowlicker track is exactly the track that the Wired article is about.. right?

      What do you mean by "Done before"?

    2. Re:Done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How THE FUCK does reading the article, then POSTING A LINK FROM THE ARTICLE count as +5!!!!

      If you have mod points, READ THE FUCKING ARICALE BEFORE FUCKING MOD!!!!

      DAFT FUCKING SHITS!

    3. Re:Done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      -100 redundant, you ignorant fucking mods. He's talking about the SAME FUCKING THING as the article.

      Hatter, please DIE PAINFULLY NOW, you shit eating karma whore moron.

    4. Re:Done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading the article is probably worth a +5 around here.

      BTW, you really should talk to someone about your anger issues.

  16. Why doesn't it work with MP3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before reading the article I thought it was a picture in the 44khz waveform and MP3 might lose the high frequencies, but "His discovery can be reproduced with a sample of the song and some spectrographic software, which displays the different frequencies of the song as a graph against time."

    Isn't storing frequences exactly how the compression works?

    1. Re:Why doesn't it work with MP3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compresson works by:
      stripping stuff you don't(or almost can't) hear.
      By taking bits that are the same and replacing 'em with a code, on "lossy" compression you are not too carefull about them being the same.

    2. Re:Why doesn't it work with MP3? by Juggle · · Score: 2

      Seemed to work for me. I too the wav file linked off the page linked from the Wired article, encoded it to MP3, and then decoded the MP3 to a new WAV file.

      The face is still there. A little distorted and not quite as clear but it's still there and still recognizable.

      Of course if you encoded it as a 64k or 32k mp3 things might not work as well but since I can hear the difference at those levels I don't mess with MP3 that compressed unless I really need it.

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  17. inaccuracy... by Xmarksta · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it, encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image.

    The image is not destroyed -- it just morphs into an image of Jack Valenti.

    1. Re:inaccuracy... by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      So that's what that demonic picture originally was.

      It wasn't that they were misreading the original picture; it was that they were looking at it through a MP3.

      (BTW, shouldn't you have said Hilary Rosen?)

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  18. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by Foresto · · Score: 1
  19. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's Stenography.
    No, it isn't.
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  20. But I always see faces... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is news?

    I always see faces when listing to Aphex Twin if I sit there for long enough... although sometimes it helps to be in the right frame of mind.

    :)

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    "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
    1. Re:But I always see faces... by edgarde · · Score: 2, Funny
      I always see faces when listing to Aphex Twin if I sit there for long enough

      When I listen to Aphex Twin long enough I hear the refrigerator.

    2. Re:But I always see faces... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I listen to Aphex Twin long enough I hear the refrigerator.

      When I listen to Aphex Twin long enough I hear the electricity running to the refridgerator.

  21. HAHA! by PCM2 · · Score: 2
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    1. Re:HAHA! by Foresto · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I saw that too. :)

  22. see it here. by TheTomcat · · Score: 2

    Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it

    or you could just look at the top of the linked story -- Picture Gallery (3)

    S

  23. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no, it's steganography.

  24. Shorten! by emkman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shorten, or a .SHN file, is lossless audio compression that works quite well and dominates the bootleg scene, get the neccesary tools here.

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    1. Re:Shorten! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now if only one of these lossless compression formats made it easy for developers to use the compression schemes in their own applications. None of them do so my app (for OS X) won't support them, which is sad as I think lossless compression would be of great benefit to people.

    2. Re:Shorten! by emkman · · Score: 1

      Well here is shorten for Mac OS X. As far as integrating into your own app, while there may not be an easy way, there is linux and unix shorten source code, feel free to hack away.

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  25. Um... this is Aphex Twin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, really, you'd have to dedicate some of the CD to irritating noise, like Aphex Twin must have done.

    Some of the CD? Have you ever listened to Aphex Twin?

    Random out-of-context data is probably an improvement.

  26. Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A vector drawn image of a guitar!

    While in college I rewired my old monitor from an Apple II. I think it was called an Apple III Monitor for some reason. Anyhow, I ran hooked my speaker wires up to the coils that controled the beam in the CRT. This caused it to draw funky patterns. One particular Led Zeppelin track would draw a guitar on the screen.

    Unfortunately the instrument being played was a harmonica. Strange that a harmonica would draw a guitar.

    Nobody would believe me when I told them this, but everyone willing to make a trip up to my room left as a believer.

    I have since written a simple WinAmp plug-in that emulates this effect. The analog way is much more neato though.

    1. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Link to winamp plugin?

    2. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by Zurk · · Score: 1

      did you use the same techniques as winvoice (http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm) or metasynth ? or did you do something completely different ? do you have a link with source ??

    3. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by moogla · · Score: 2

      No... what he had was a parametric plot versus time where the Y-axis is the left-speaker voltage and the X-axis is the right-speaker voltage (or vice versa, just rotate 90 degrees). So if you have two in-phase tones at the same frequency, you get a circle. Anything else, and you get tons of cool rotoscopish type effects.

      J. Harrison, where can I download your plugin?\

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    4. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2

      I did the same thing in high school with a borrowed oscilloscope and an Amiga 1000. My friend and I wrote an AmigaBasic program to take the coordinates of mouse clicks and turn them into stereo samples for the Amiga to play back. Then, you could draw a picture on the screen, and watch a cool vector version on the o'scope.

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    5. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
      I did something different. The response about the oscilliscope is correct. Basically it is a parametric funtion that determines the x-coordinate from the left channel and the y-coordinate from the right channel.

      As mentioned above, I have put it up on one of my dumb game websites.

      Here is the link:

      www.angelfire.com/games4/anirak/vis_test.dll

      Put the dll in your winamp pluggin directory, select the Nullsoft Test Visualization Library v1.0 and then in the drop down box below select Strange.

      I never developed it as nicely as I would have liked to. The source is on a HD that is currently not connected to my computer. I will try to get it for you.

    6. Re:Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
      This is the third time posting the link in this thread, but maybe you are using messages. I know that is the only way that I bother to know when someone has replied to me.

      Here is the link:

      www.angelfire.com/games4/anirak/vis_test.dll

      Pop it into you pluggin directory, select it as the visualizaiton pluggin and then select "Strange" in the drop-down box at the bottom.

  27. Try a .wav file by arjennienhuis · · Score: 1

    The face will be seen when the song is shared as a .wav file.

    It is not even needed to share the whole 40 MB.

    If you need to listen to the music, use the mp3 file.
    If you need to see the face, download a 5 sec (mono?) .wav file.

    Or just buy the CD (If you like the music).

    1. Re:Try a .wav file by jx100 · · Score: 1

      It's Stereo, and it's 9 sec.

  28. Humorous (?) Predictions by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Christian Music will have crosses, doves, and christian fish encoded into the signal, which will probably improve the music.

    Gothic music will encode pentagrams, broken crosses, and tributes to Jack Chick, but nobody will notice because it's all screaming anyway.

    Country music will include images of pickup trucks, cowboy hats, and liquor bottles, but since country fans are all hicks, they will never be discovered.

    The RIAA will mandate that all music have encoded into it pictures that won't survive reencoding, but that, when translated to mp3, will crash your computer.

    1. Re:Humorous (?) Predictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Catholic Music will have young new virgin boys encoded into the signal, which will probably improve bass of the music to stimulate priests genitals.

      Gothic music will fat ugly chicks with lots of dark makup and cloes to hide their uglyness, but nobody will notice because the goths will kill themselves before they release the album.

      too lazy to finish... fuck

    2. Re:Humorous (?) Predictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Country music will include images of pickup trucks, cowboy hats, and liquor bottles, but since country fans are all hicks, they will never be discovered."

      I listen to country music, but i'm not a hick.

      You must be one of those sissy city boys from western California.

    3. Re:Humorous (?) Predictions by Netbrian · · Score: 1

      Hey! Some of us are proud of being sissies!!!

    4. Re:Humorous (?) Predictions by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 1

      I'm from a small town in Idaho. Exaggeration is a key element of humor.

  29. Personally, RDJ's mug scares me enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice to see Richard mentioned on /.

    He is huge in the "geek community" there are various shrines located around the MIT campus dedicated to the man . . .

    Sort of scary if you ask me, but then again MIT is scary in itself.

  30. that's brilliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's brilliant, that's fucking brilliant!

  31. Re:ya, but who can see it? by linzeal · · Score: 1

    There are plenty that come with winamp.

  32. I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >he has a fucking tank

    Maybe so, but it looks Russian.

    1. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russian?! That damn commie! Get a rope!

    2. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Actually, you'll find it's a British Scout Car

      Call me pedantic...

  33. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by phoenix_orb · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Do you use winamp? If not download it

    It is in the standard plug in.

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    Blah Blah Blah.
  34. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    read the post dumbass...

  35. Re:ya, but who can see it? by gr0ngb0t · · Score: 1

    Who has a spectrograph? Not me...

    The article says the guy who found the face when he was playing around with WinAmp one evening, soooo, presumably you can get a spectrograph plugin for winamp.

  36. For those who don't have the CD... by MoceanWorker · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can download the 9 second wave where the face appears.. here

    Also, you can download Spectrogram here

    Not sure of which program in *nix can do it.. any ideas?

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    "The ones who dont do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down" -- Henry Rollins
    1. Re:For those who don't have the CD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOOT!
      Links from the fucking article!

      MOD DOWN THE FUCKING WHORE!

      s/[a..z]/[A..Z]/
      I am yelling.

    2. Re:For those who don't have the CD... by Piquan · · Score: 1

      There's several XMMS plugins that do this type of plot. The descriptions don't say whether they have a linear / log switch, though.

  37. That's Super Freaky by OhYeah! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah!

    1. Re:That's Super Freaky by Disevidence · · Score: 1

      A fine example of Mods on Crack. +3 Funny?

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  38. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's only if you view it playing backwards.

  39. Windowlicker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is also a nifty looking spiral at the end of Windowlicker. It can be seen with the NullSoft Tiny Fullscreen visual that comes with winamp. It even shows up in the mp3 version available on the net. Very cool!

  40. Ah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So music from Aphex Twin is not just random noise anymore!

  41. mp3 by VoiceOfRaisin · · Score: 1

    "The image doesn't appear in an MP3 file of the song; the compression algorithm destroys the image"

    this is absolutely not true. ive watched it on my mp3 version, looks exactly the same.

  42. more info.... by jarv · · Score: 2

    another site regarding this was linked on memepool a few weeks ago.

    http://chaos.yerbox.org/face/

    they've got a spectrography program, as well as the .wav that contains the face.

    1. Re:more info.... by jarv · · Score: 2

      doh.

    2. Re:more info.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why THE FUCK do people just POST A LINK FROM THE ARTICLE!!!!

      If you have mod points, READ THE FUCKING ARICALE BEFORE FUCKING MOD!!!!

      DAFT FUCKING SHITS!

  43. Prefer it otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather see a face with music hidden in it.

  44. Form of Watermarking? by n3xu5 · · Score: 1

    Could this be a new means of watermarking audio? The note about mp3 and other lossy compressions distorting/removing the image from the music makes me wonder if this couldn't be used as a form of DRM. It would require a special audio player to enforce it I suppose. Food for thought...or maybe just food.

  45. value by jafac · · Score: 2

    now, this is a great reason to buy the actual CD. I'd pay $15 for that. Then again, I also LIKE Aphex Twins' music. On the other hand, it's not very useful if it's copy-protected and won't play on a PC. I think there's a lesson to be learned here for both the RIAA and the "cartel-protest" crowd.

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    These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
    1. Re:value by jafac · · Score: 2

      On the other hand, I went to a music store to buy this fine CD the other day, and they didn't have it. In fact, they had nothing at all from Aphex Twin. Guess it's on to Gnutella then. . .

      --

      These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
    2. Re:value by Cuthalion · · Score: 1

      That's hard to believe. Are you sure they didn't squirrel it away into a different section than you looked?

      --
      Trees can't go dancing
      So do them a big favor
      Pretend dancing stinks!
    3. Re:value by scotch · · Score: 2
      Order on line. You might try cdnow, which has a good catalog of aphex twin stuff, or other places.

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      XML causes global warming.
    4. Re:value by funkhauser · · Score: 1

      It's an EP. $8 bucks max. Good stuff though!

  46. that's interesting, but can't sound too nice. by dwlemon · · Score: 1

    Back in the DOS days, I'd stare at the spectrograph in Cubic Player while playing all those neat Purple Motion tunes (I still play them, just in XMMS now)

    I always wondered if it would be possible to do the opposite of a spectrograph.. take an image and convert it to a sound... I guess it is!

    1. Re:that's interesting, but can't sound too nice. by DaCool42 · · Score: 1

      A spectograph doesn't display all the audio information. It shows frequencies and amplitude, but not phase. So you would need a phase map as well. Or a 3d image.

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      All of whose base are belong to the what-now?
    2. Re:that's interesting, but can't sound too nice. by moogla · · Score: 1

      Well, it IS 3d, technically, being a height map. You have two values associated with two parameters (frequency and time), so a 3 dimensional plot is not what you need (thats one value with 3 paramters). You just need interleaved rows, or pretend that the imaginary parts are all zero, which turns out to sound okay.

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      Black holes are where the Matrix raised SIGFPE
  47. Just another reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woohoo! Another reason to get stoned and listen to Aphex Twin!!!!

  48. impressive by Sir+Elton+John · · Score: 1
    As someone who has at one time or another been considered a musician who "pushes the envelope" in modern pop music, I have to give credit where credit is due.

    My countryman not only paved new way in what is literally mulimaedia, but he has also demonstrated awe-inspiring restraint in letting this be discovered independently, after nearly three years.

    Mr. Twin, I applaud you.

    --
    "I'm a rocket man / Rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone." - Sir Elton John
    1. Re:impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Troll, please fuck off.

    2. Re:impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As leader of modestly successful small government and its central planned economy, I Fidel Castro clap for your successful pushing envelope as you say!

      Recenttely I set down with Jimmy Carter to discuss relations between the U.S. y Cuba. But not much happen as Bush no visit never. I hold my head in Pity. But! It dawned on me how music breaks language barriers, yes. Not literal boarders otherwise people jump onto ship and head for Miami, haha! Miami beach it is a bad place to be, I alway sey. But I ask of you, would you, Sir Elton John take offer to promote Cuban way. We are peaceful nation we want friends with whole world, of course keep CIA out! If you can produce a song muy bonita for our country, her people and my people will be blessed! Haha, you will be blessed too! I make a funny! Unfortunately the dictator have neither an email address nor Slashdot account, yet. Is coming soon! So if you write song soon please post MP3 on your website and post here on the Slashdot front pash.. pedje.... oooohh now I remember.. page. Spanish don't have no funny American sound and you English people pronounce it more difficult for dictator like me. You know what I mean!

      Bye my dear comrades!

      P.S. Cuba needs computer programmadores. We need software developers design missile defense systems (closed source, you tricky basterd!) and open source programmers design back-door free application software. No longer we trust Microsoft! Microsoft puts bad security holes in its software. We cannot trust americanos programmadores neither. Bill Gates
      software is stumbling block to opening relations with los estados unidos americanos. But we fix that soon!

  49. Old News by BlaKmaJiK_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I found this about a year and a half ago, oddly enough at about 3 im the morning... scared the hell out of me but was the neatest find. I was watching songs in winamp with the voiceprint plugin that comes with it. Think it would make neat wallpaper.
    I took a screenshot and sent it to my friends and we looked around the web but couldnt find anyone else who had come across this. I think the song was "Complex Mathematical Equation" but i cant remember...

    1. Re:Old News by bmorton · · Score: 1

      Actually...the song title is a complex mathematical equation.

      Never have found out what (if anything) it's for.

  50. you should buy the disc anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its aphex twin, so you know its kickass

  51. Great way to boost sales... by sean23007 · · Score: 2

    That's a good way for some random band to boost their sales: encode moving pictures of a scantily clad pop-star dancing (or in some other way gyrating) into their music. People would have to buy their CD, and as a bonus they get some music. And as a bigger bonus, they get pictures of Britney...

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    Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
  52. music?? by johnty · · Score: 1

    i think its great that people are experimenting with this kind of stuff... what about the music itself though? for centuries music has been around, but its only in the last couple of decades when video came out that image has influenced the music. now that we have pictures encoded into sound, where will we go next?

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    I am unique, just like you, and you, and you...
  53. Circumvention? by sean23007 · · Score: 2

    Isn't this just asking for another method of circumvention? That is, if it is to be used as some form of copy protection. Someone could encode the images as .mpg and the music as .mp3, and offer them both up for download, and the downloader could combine them at his end if he really wanted to have the image with the sound. Or just keep them separate. Shouldn't be too tough, right?

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    Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
    1. Re:Circumvention? by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      Ohh, that's easy, you can convert an MP3 into a text file by just changing the extension in windows :)

  54. Oh The Horror! by Enonu · · Score: 2

    I wonder if Yanni has goatse.cx pictures embedded in his music. Think of the children!

  55. "What ripping quality would preserve the face?"... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    was the first thing on my mind upon reading the story.

  56. Video on Vinyl by dmomo · · Score: 1
    Neat stuff. You can actual buy a device that will output a turntable to a television, making video from vinyl.

    http://www.vinylvideo.com/

    This was on slashdot as a quickie about a year ago.

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/16/1713 22 4&mode=thread


    How "audible" is the image that appears on the Aphex Twin track? Can this be used for digital watermarking for other kinds of music, or would the image be too "loud"?

  57. xmms plugin by huwj · · Score: 0

    This plugin works for xmms. Get the dspectogram 1.2.tar.gz - It looks really freaky as the two faces (L and R) channels appear....

  58. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by treat · · Score: 2
    Do you use winamp? If not download it


    Doesn't Winamp run only on Windows? Surely there must be software for a free OS that does this.

  59. AFX is a fine example.. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The sad part is that true artists like AFX are pretty much ignored and panned by the lables and the radio stations while crap get's all the airplay.

    Sorry, but AFX has always been much more a musician than the rest of the mot there on pop-radio. Just like Moby,NutralMilk hotel, and the rest of the "underground" they all have more talent in their toenails than every artist that get's big-station radio play.

    And that my friends is exactly why I am proud of my wierd music collection. (I admit..it's wierd... AFX is wierd.. by popular standards...)

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    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    1. Re:AFX is a fine example.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Moby was good, until he went mainstream. For someone who claims to listen to 'real' underground, you should do your homework. He had/has plenty of talent, it just got pushed to the side to open up his audience. Don't flame the man!

    2. Re:AFX is a fine example.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're saying Moby doesn't get airplay?

    3. Re:AFX is a fine example.. by mgblst · · Score: 2

      I agree with your sentiments, have loved afx for a long time now. But don't be too proud of your weird music collection. I have a friend with a huge music collection, and one of the more normal albums he owns is afx. Oh well, people have never really had good taste!

    4. Re:AFX is a fine example.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NMH - yes

      moby - no

    5. Re:AFX is a fine example.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahem, when someone goes mainstream the older stuff doesnt magically become crap.

      because a tiny bit of his music is now sterilized doesnt instantly destroy it all..

      so yes, I am underground MAN! only a wannabe would dismiss an artist's past works based on current. Hell older radiohead is damned good. (oh and I do like Kid-A it's a nice return to radiohead roots and is awesomely far-far away from that horrible ok-computer album.)

  60. Coagula by rabidcow · · Score: 2

    Anybody who wants to make their own funkiness on, say Windows, try Coagula.

  61. I wrote a tool to hide text in spectrograms by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    I once wrote a program to hide printed text in a spectrogram. The first thing I encoded (after test messages such as Hello World) was efdtt from David Touretzky's Gallery of CSS Descramblers.

    the program

    efdtt on top of music from Tet*is Advance

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    Will I retire or break 10K?
  62. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see it, it's the last few seconds of the second track on the CD. I'm using the SND editor under Linux to see it but the image looks slightly different from the one shown on the article's website. I have a U.S. CD so there may be more than one version of this song, depending on the country the CDs were pressed. On mine, he's not smiling a toothy grin, but instead his mouth is closed. Weird.

  63. Already been done... by nateschmoe · · Score: 1

    Attention Deficit did this on their album "Adventures In Laissez-Faire Economics" last summer. The waveforms to one of the tracks spell out the names of the band members...

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    1. Re:Already been done... by Ranger+Rick · · Score: 1

      Of course, Windowlicker (the Aphex Twin CD this trick is on) is 3 years old...

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      WWJD? JWRTFM!!!

  64. For the love of God - mod that one up! by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

    Aww man - I think I just woke my upstairs neighbour (it's 2:50 AM here) laughing out loud!

    Yeah, it's off topic, but at least I'm willing to transfer some of my karma to the parent!

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    We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
  65. ISO Image by AlgUSF · · Score: 1

    Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it, encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image.

    Have you ever heard of writing an ISO image of the CD, and burning the ISO image. That is how I share^H^H^H^H^H pirate all of my music.

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    I want my rights back. I was actually using them when our government stole them after 9/11.
    1. Re:ISO Image by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ISO images are for data tracks, not audio tracks. "ISO" is short for "ISO9660", which is the filesystem used on CD-ROM discs. Audio tracks have a different physical sector format and they store raw PCM audio data.

      (Incidentally, this explains why 74 minutes of CD-quality audio takes up more than 650MB of space... a data sector stores (usually) 2048 bytes, while an audio sector stores 2352 bytes, which is exactly 1/75 of a second of audio.)

  66. Fictional IRC w/ Aphex Twin by nathanh · · Score: 2

    There's a hilarious fictional IRC session featuring Richard James as the egomanical moderator. I reckon I'm not getting even half of the jokes but it's still a riot.

  67. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Psychopatic+NerD · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is correctly displayed screenshots of the face... the spectrum needs to be logarithmic. http://spectool.mastak.com/scrshots/

  68. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WinAMP 3 runs on Linux/Mac too, and is finally themable (not just skinable).

  69. Use 64 kbps by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    What ripping quality would preserve the face?

    Steps used in Cool Edit Pro with Fraunhofer plug-in:

    1. Rip CD
    2. Trim to face only (the face looks strange in a linear spectrograph such as the one in Cool Edit)
    3. Convert to Mono
    4. Save as Fraunhofer MP3 at 64 kbps
    5. Open MP3 in Winamp
    6. Turn on Nullsoft Tiny Visualizer and play the MP3. The face is preserved, but unfortunately, Winamp's spectral display is linear too.

    Anybody have a good link to a spectrograph program that uses a logarithmic frequency axis?


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    DeCSS hidden in a song's spectrogram
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    Will I retire or break 10K?
    1. Re:Use 64 kbps by JesseL · · Score: 3, Informative

      This probably won't do you a lot of good since you seem to be running windows, but, Extace Waveform Display (came with RedHat 7.2) does have an option for using a logarithmic frequency axis.

      --
      "Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!"
  70. old news by carpe_noctem · · Score: 1

    This is really old news. I remember seeing the image on the Windowlicker track about six months ago when rumours first started circulating about it on the internet. I'm kind of curious why people are raising a big fuss about it now...it was pretty widespread news among fans a long time ago.

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    "Quoting famous computer scientists out of context is the root of all evil (or at least most of it) in programming." - K
  71. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  72. But whose face is it? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2

    Could it be Jesus' face????

  73. not really a surprise to anyone familiar with AFX by discogravy · · Score: 2

    aphex twin/RDJ is quite the geek, making his own synths and coding some of his own software for use in his music....it's one of the reasons it takes him ages to get a fucking album out, apparently. there was a recent interview where he said he'd lost an mp3 player that was loaded with tons of his songs (and i think squarepusher demos too -- aphex and pusher are friends,) like two albums' worth of unreleased material he was sorting through....just left the player on a plane and that his paranoia over getting the songs released on the 'net was one impetus for releasing his latest album, druqks. more proof that mp3s have changed artists' modus operandi, even if it's not all artists.

  74. low bitrate video encoding by Dwedit · · Score: 1

    Does this have applications for low bitrate video encoding?

    1. Re:low bitrate video encoding by Wyzard · · Score: 1

      One low-quality, distorted monochrome picture derived from nine seconds of audio doesn't exactly constitute "video". And "derived from" is the proper term - do some reading about what a spectrograph is and you'll understand how this picture arises.

  75. He's not that great by nexthec · · Score: 1

    go to:http://uk.eurorights.org/issues/cd/bad/
    and read:
    * "druqks" by Aphex Twin: Reported protected by key2audio in Germany by several people. Can't be played on a computer or laptop, nor copied to MiniDisc or a hi-fi CD recorder. UK release appears to be unprotected. Also reported unprotected in Belgium and the US
    near the bottom of the page,

    I think that should disquallify him for atleast some of this great praise of "adding value, not copy protection"

    1. Re:He's not that great by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 2

      i sincerely doubt that he even knew about the copy protection before it happened. he releases most of his music through either Warp Records or Rephlex Records both are non-riaa affiliated and have a history of treating their fans/customers well. warp used to license their music out to other labels in other countries. for instance, aphex twin is on sire in the US. now, at least in part due to licensing out acts like aphex twin, autechre, and boards of canade, warp has a us division, and rephlex has us distribution through caroline distribution. aphex twin's latest album, "drukqs" was released in the us on sire, because they were still under contract. (alhtough i thought i heard somewhere that that was the last album under the contract. we'll see who releases aphex albums in the future.)

      it's worth noting that sire IS an riaa member. while warp included the windowlicker video in quicktime on the windowlicker single, (actually the windowlicker was released as a 2-parter, and the video was on part 2. but multi-part singles never go over well in the us.) sire used an edited mpeg of the video, crippled by a scheme called HyperCD.

      don't blame aphex or warp for the actions of licensees.

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      #define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}
      F(#define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}%cF(%s))
    2. Re:He's not that great by nexthec · · Score: 1

      the problem is that it wasnt release in the US with copy protection, it was released in Germany with copy protection. which I blevive is not Sire

    3. Re:He's not that great by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 2

      i have no idea who released it in germany. and sire isn't exactly one of the good ones. not anymore at least. maybe in the late 70's. it's warp and rephlex that deserve our respect.

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      #define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}
      F(#define F(x) int main(){printf(#x,10,#x);}%cF(%s))
  76. *nix program to do it by DaCool42 · · Score: 1

    There are tons of programs out there for *nix to see it. Try extace

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  77. Yes it does by Asicath · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are two images, the first is of Mr. Twin's face at about 5:48 into the song, the second is a swirl at about 6:00. You pry only saw the swirl, reason being it has a lot of blackspace and its very easy to make out swirling kind of noise. The face however, sounds like just regular old garbled Apex Twin noise.

  78. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2

    Winamp ran excellently in Wine when I tried it. Well enough that I used it instead of any MP3 Player I found that was made for Linux.

    Tim

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    Omnia vestra castrorum habetur nobis.
  79. Oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I re-rendered the image with higher resolution and inverted the colors, and the details showed up. It's the same image. My bad.

  80. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Cuthalion · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of free spectrogram tools around, for two reasons:

    They're useful for a number of sciences (linguistics, for instance uses them a crapload).

    They're just FFTs which nearly everyone who studies computer science winds up implementing sometime or another during their education.

    Next time, try google.

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    Trees can't go dancing
    So do them a big favor
    Pretend dancing stinks!
  81. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by damien_kane · · Score: 1

    IIRC Xmms supports many (if not all) winamp plugins now.

  82. that's redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's redundant, that's fucking redundant!

  83. Here's this Pic by N8F8 · · Score: 1

    Save yourself some time Decoded

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  84. Sometimes you just have to face the music! by Ferzelic · · Score: 1

    Or music the face. Or something. Whatever.

    1. Re:Sometimes you just have to face the music! by cluke · · Score: 2

      Clever.

  85. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    extace; use the spectagram modes. Needs esd, though.

  86. How to see the face in Winamp by gamblingpenguin · · Score: 0

    In Winamp 2.80 use the visualization plugin Nullsoft Tiny Fullscreen 2001 (v2.04) then selecting "Sexy Scrolling Voiceprint" it's a built-in plugin with Winamp 2.80.

    Then about 5:30 into the 2nd track titled "symbol" on the Windowlicker EP Album there is the face. Earlier in the song there are other blocks that appear to be images as well, or at least were implanted using the MetaSynth program.

  87. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Darby · · Score: 1

    They're just FFTs which nearly everyone who studies computer science winds up implementing

    Yet if you study math you don't usually even hear about Fourier Transforms until grad school and then you just learn the theory behind them. You never actually calculate one. Way too many calculations with like actual numbers and stuff ;-)

  88. It's not steganography by rhizome · · Score: 4, Informative

    Steganography is encoding something in another medium so as not to alter the carrier medium, like a watermark. What Aphex Twin did was to use a piece of software that converts graphics to sound (x, y, z = time, frequency, and intensity/volume) via an Inverse Fast-Fourier Transform. There is no encoding involved, the picture *is* the sound that you hear. Big difference.

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    1. Re:It's not steganography by BCTECH · · Score: 1

      You are absolutely right. I was going to post the same thing. This is asteg'dimage, and this is the original. I don't remember what I used as a key but I used PGP to encrypt a text file then used Outguess to encode the encrypted PGP message into the image. I don't even remember what I used for the steg passphrase so if anyone wants to have a go at it feel free. I think the feds would want you to work for them if you could find the original message.

    2. Re:It's not steganography by Plutor · · Score: 2

      Sorry, you're not quite correct. Steganography is only the process of hiding data. A good example from Simon Singh's The Code Book is stone tablets encased in wax. The data (whatever is written on the stone tablets) is there, merely hidden by the thick layer of wax. Both digital watermarking and Aphex Twin's method are valid steganography. The term is generally used nowadas in reference to the former, but that does not make that its meaning.

  89. You may be right by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Christian Music will have crosses, doves, and christian fish encoded into the signal, which will probably improve the music.

    You could very well be right. Simple geometric figures, such as a cross made of band-passed noise, can be used as percussion, and a line drawing of a dove can easily be hidden in a bird call (heh).

    but that, when translated to mp3, will crash your computer.

    Not possible unless a buggy MP3 encoder passes such a file to a buggy MP3 decoder. Well-written codecs don't crash.

    But you left one out: Cheesy electronic music will have the printed source code for a CSS decoder.

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  90. Hey, wow! by gangibson · · Score: 1

    This sounds way cool, let's check it out!

    ...

    OK, here it is -- AIIIIIGGHHHH! (Heart stops)

    Moral: The Aphex Twin is a scary guy.

  91. Just another sick ploy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To try and get you to buy their CD so you can see it.

  92. Inverse MDCT will do it by yerricde · · Score: 1

    I always wondered if it would be possible to do the opposite of a spectrograph.. take an image and convert it to a sound... I guess it is!

    It's actually quite easy. Do the inverse MDCT (modified discrete cosine transform, an equation similar to the discrete Fourier transform) on each column of pixels.

    If you want to put textual messages in a spectrogram, you can use this app.

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  93. At long last! by phwiffo · · Score: 1

    I've been waiting years for Aphex to get props in slashdot.. although anybody who's read the afx faq has known about this for a while.

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  94. Technicaly Watermarking, Not Steganography by shoemakc · · Score: 1

    Technicaly the technique being employed is considered a form of non-robust watermarking, rather then steganography.

    Steganographic techniques embed covert information in a an object or "stego-cover". Typicaly the information is highly encrypted and neither visualy or satisticly alters the image.

    The technique described here falls more under the catagory of watermarking, principaly the application of tamper-detection. Tamper-detection watermarks such as this are designed to be as fragile as possible, such that any alteration destorys the watermark. This family of watermarks thus ensure that the content has not been altered since original distribution.

    -Chris

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  95. wow. by jon_c · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That is very cool, i'm impressed. The output looks like something an old dot matrix would have made. Am i right in looking at it that the text is made up like that, where each 'row' is a sin wave at some frequency?

    -Jon

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  96. Aphex Twin by Blackbox42 · · Score: 1

    Concidering that they:
    A) Didn't test it
    B) Strongly implied that it was true and not that they got that information from the article
    I would say that it is slashdot's fault for posting it as the truth. Not that it's the first time or that it matters one bit though. The face seems to be completly unaffected by mp3 compression (I saw it fine in my 192 kps version of the song).

    A word on this song itself. The end of the song has a breakdown effect; an increase in dissanace at first which leads to "random" static. The last piece of static in the song is his face.

  97. sorry, It's not a face... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks more like Sally Struthers' tits to me...

    1. Re:sorry, It's not a face... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
      It looks more like Sally Struthers' tits to me...

      Whew. Glad I'm not the only one.

  98. I can only agree. by afxgrin · · Score: 2

    Plus - it's about time this guy got some credit.

    I wish I read this thread earlier so I could get some mad karma on all my AFX links. As you can tell by my nickname I'm some sort of fuct up fan of his.

    Oh well - not the end of the world.
    I'm just sick of my submissions getting turned down by slashdot editors and then the article comes up a week later. Bah.

    1. Re:I can only agree. by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      "it's about time this guy got some credit"

      What are you talking about? Hes been getting credit since about 1992! if anything he`s got too much credit, seeing that the last decent album he released (imho) was `i care because you do` in 1995!

    2. Re:I can only agree. by tps12 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Hm. You appear to have enough karma to have a +1 Bonus, which is one of my all-time favorite things. IAC, it should allow you to post things late and still get enough impressions to get modded up.

      And either way, please post links!

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  99. You can change the font with TED by yerricde · · Score: 1

    That is very cool, i'm impressed. The output looks like something an old dot matrix would have made. Am i right in looking at it that the text is made up like that, where each 'row' is a sin wave at some frequency?

    Correct. Look at the source code (in the zip file) to see how I did it. You can also use TED to edit the font if you want.

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  100. behind the times by bmorton · · Score: 1

    this is such ancient fucking news.

    www.joyrex.com

  101. Lossless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think the face gets destroyed with mp3, MonkeysAudio and FLAC are good lossless compression schemes.

  102. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by BtAFMB · · Score: 1

    Link doesn't seem to work, go to: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=514712

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  103. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    huh? Shoddy undergrad analysis course if you never hear of Fourier transforms till grad school.

  104. Old news... by Dodecha · · Score: 1

    I've been an aphex twin fan for a couple of years now.. and AFAIK the face you see is old news.. i first heared about it about a year ago...

  105. Faces in sound... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Its a neat face that he put in there, and it sounds good.. but it looks like something drawn on an oscilliscope. Here are a few examples of what can be done with the right code.

    The sound pictures were made by converting an image into a power spectrum, and then converting the power spectrum into a sound signal.

    The code to make these pictures took a couple of hours to write. With more attention to detail, im sure that better results (both sounding and looking) are possible.. but this was just 'proof of concept, before hitting the bar'. :)

    -AC

  106. Homemade version online here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone did this here
    http://ayb.hypermart.net/

    screenshot here:
    http://ayb.hypermart.net/ayb_sample.jpg

  107. example of DeCSS source encoded like this in mp3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    made back in the days of ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US, some text encoded in the high frequencies not audible to most people. downloadable mp3s and then viewable with built in winamp plugin

    http://server41.hypermart.net/ayb/

  108. And You All Thought FBI Agents Were Into "Techno" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I have been saying all along them guys in black sitting on the park bench are not listening to music they are looking at maps of the area where I live and they are coming to get me and my mp3s.

  109. oddly enough... by c0rruptc0d3 · · Score: 1

    It has been confirmed by my testing that an image of Pamela Anderson does in fact reproduce a wav file containing the Baywatch theme remixed ala 1970's porno music style.

  110. Re:ya, but who can see it? by Darby · · Score: 1

    Shoddy undergrad analysis course if you never hear of Fourier transforms till grad school.

    Well, I was being a little facetious. They were covered in Baby Rudin, but we skipped that chapter in order to have time at the end of the year to develop the Lebesgue integral.

  111. Not the only song he's done this in by Centurix · · Score: 1

    On track one of the windowlicker EP, there's a spiral at the end. There's also an audioplot on his new Drukq's album.

    He's also put data into his songs which can be extracted. On his "Richard D James" album, there's two tracks with ZX Spectrum tape headers at the beginning and ends of the tracks which can be read into some spectrum emulators.

    Recently, he released a single called "Two remixes by AFX" featuring a remix of 808 states flowcoma. The last track titles "Bonus High Frequency Sounds" is basically a data track from some computer (not a spectrum), hopefully someone out there would recognise its sound and extract the information out of it, because I've tried and all I've got is junk data...

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  112. lossy doesn't matter by h4x0r-3l337 · · Score: 2

    I wrote a quick app that allows embedding of an image in a similar way, and have verified that neither encoding to mp3 nor encoding to ogg destroys the image. I don't know where Wired got the idea, but they're wrong.
    If you think about it, it makes perfect sense too: changing the frequency components of the sound so radically that the image is no longer visible would mean that the music sounds totally different too. mp3 and ogg are lossy, but they're not THAT destructive.

    1. Re:lossy doesn't matter by slim · · Score: 2

      That depends on the acoustic model,the encoding scheme and where in the signal the image is hidden. For example one could encode the image entirely in frequencies higher than those audible to humans. Some encoding schemes would certainly strip that information pretty early on.

  113. Re:ya, but who can see it? by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

    That's funny. I only study engineering and I learned about them (and had to calculate them) in sophomore calculus.

  114. Why everyone should have an empeg (riocar) by frog51 · · Score: 2

    Some points - as others have mentioned, mp3 encoding does not get rid of the face - it is still spooky.

    And one of the standard visualisation effects on the empeg shows it beautifully.

    What's even weirder is it doesn't sound too nasty, musically. Every time I've tried to draw pics in the waveform it's sounded harsh and metallic.

  115. Re:Fictional IRC w/ Aphex Twin -v funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This spoof IRC session is very funny

  116. Check out this by hasse · · Score: 1

    http://spectool.mastak.com/

    You can download an evaluation version.

    As for preserving the image, I've found at least the RDJ-album face in all mp3 versions of this song, so that shouldn't be difficult.

  117. Get this program by hasse · · Score: 1

    Coagula

    It does exactly this, and it's excellent fun to play around with.

    1. Re:Get this program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or try for making image sounds The vOICe Learning Edition There some more images reconstructed from sound at the URLs http://www.seeingwithsound.com/vbme6.html http://www.seeingwithsound.com/tocarmov.htm http://www.seeingwithsound.com/aumodel.htm

  118. Other spectrograph surprises? by mcarbone · · Score: 2

    Yawn, this AFX face thing is old news. I heard about it months ago and it's been fairly common knowledge among AFX fans for awhile now. Oh, well.

    However, I've been looking for other songs with odd spectrographs. The most recent contender has been the track "A is to B as B is to C" on geogaddi, the most recent Boards of Canada LP. Nothing as obvious as a face, but it has some strange effects, plus something apparently hidden in the high frequencies (at around 15000Hz, if I remember correctly). Anyone have any idea what this is? (You can view an image of the spectrograph here).

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  119. Made on Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, it was made on a Mac, you fucking idiots.

    Metasynth, a Mac OS application, was used...

    of course, all really talented, artistic, discerning, aesthetically and politically aware people use Macs.

    but YOU would not know that.

  120. its called MetaSynth by sh0rtie · · Score: 2


    Cool ? yes and is available for macs here

  121. ECE course by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 2

    I'm in a "Computer Science and Engineering" program; we have to take a couple of EE courses in addition to the regular CS workload.

    One of the classes (third-year) was "Signals and Systems", which had us calculating Fourier series and transforms by hand.

    So, ha.

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  122. Re:"What ripping quality would preserve the face?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bah. just run it thru stft and use jpeg. might sound interesting too..

  123. MODS: parent - up by tps12 · · Score: 2

    That's awesome. While I will be the first to testify to the brilliance of his music, I have to say that no one can title a tune like he can. Obscure computing references, the "nonsense" titles from drukqs (sp?)...

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    1. Re:MODS: parent - up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm pretty sure the song names from drukqs were in Welsh.

  124. Blown out of proportion by Hector · · Score: 1

    Ok, while this is cool, I think it's a bit blown out of proportion. Anyone who is actually playing music in the eletronic scene, and I don't mean dance music, i mean expirimental type stuff would realize this. Especially if you've ever used Metasynth. It's an amazing piece of software. I'd imagine more liekly than purposeuly putting the image in the song. He took the image in metasynth and got the sound from it and thought hey this sounds good Ill use it. Anyway that's just my opinion.

  125. Re:ya, but who can see it? HERE'S How by pknut · · Score: 1

    XMMS (X MultiMedia System) is the Winamp for Linux. It does pretty much everything that Winamp does (including support for skins, visulisation plugins etc) and it's Open Source. I always prefer running applications natively instead of emulating, providing that I'm given the choice. 'Nuff said.

  126. Use Bzip2 by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

    It won't encode as well as mp3, but it wont wreck the image either.

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  127. A way to boost sales...of computers by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    I suppose this also means one should bring a handheld computer with a spectrogram program to a concert...

  128. Re:Fictional IRC w/ Aphex Twin -v funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no idea why they would have referenced Super Bon Bon, though.

  129. Richard James' face destroyed my iMac! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    And I'm angry.

  130. Old, old news by greygent · · Score: 2

    This item has been known for a couple years now. And contrary to the article, you don't have to have the CD.

    I rip all my CD's to MP3 and it works fine. In fact, I've never actually played the CD.

    Also, Chaos Machine didn't discover it, but hey, gotta try and get fame somehow!

  131. ./ Interview? by npsimons · · Score: 1
    I know he's rather reclusive, but I would love to see him interviewed. While I haven't heard much of his stuff, I am a fan and admire his abilities and DIY attitude.


    Is there any way we might get him to do an interview? Aphex, if you're reading, would you please consider doing a slashdot interview?

  132. Download for pluggin by John+Harrison · · Score: 2
    I have put it up on one of my dumb game websites.

    Here is the link:

    www.angelfire.com/games4/anirak/vis_test.dll

    1. Re:Download for pluggin by John+Harrison · · Score: 2

      oh, once you put it in your pluggin directory, select it in WinAmp and then select "Strange" in the drop down box at the bottom.

  133. Umm....Not really a new thing... by optisonic · · Score: 1

    I don't know exactly how long sonograms have been around but with them we take reflected sound information and build an image. Go to

    http://www.seeingwithsound.com/eyebrows.htm

    and see a more useful application of this technology.

    In this case, Richard James took a Mac only program and "read" the image which generated output to simulate sonography. Take the noise file it outputs and mix into your song. Not a very difficult, time consuming, or new idea.

    I suppose it's no wonder that this thread isn't very long as this is an old idea.

  134. Important Richard D. James question by Zen+Mastuh · · Score: 2

    Are those tits real?

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  135. Vaz Deferenz by pixiepuck · · Score: 1

    The Aphex track Vaz Deferenz from Donkey Rhubarb has images of sperm swimming along through the track. It's great because the sounds and images go together quite well, with the 'climax' of the track co-inciding with a swarm of sperm converging on an egg.

    I imagine it would create a pseudo-animation effect if you used the Winamp voiceprint visualisaion.

    At least that's how I remember it, I noticed it a few years ago when making a mix CD and I was editing the tracks in Cool Edit.

    I seem to remember some penis shapes as well.... Well actually, they look more like arrows but they are pretty bloody Freudian.

    Funny thing is, I remember hearing windowlicker and thinking - 'that sounds like Coagula' but I didn't think to look at it in a spectroscope app.

    There are some sounds like that in one of the Come To Daddy remixes - anyone checked that out?

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  136. Pusher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking of Squarepusher....anyone who likes Aphex Twin and likes Jazz should defintely check out his stuff...its amazing.