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Solar Powered Jacket Charges Your Gadgets

blorg writes "Wired News has a story about a new jacket from SCOTTeVEST that uses flexible solar panels on the shoulders to recharge gadgets in the pockets. The idea is that you can now keep all of your gadgets charged, even if you are spending an extended period of time away from a power source. The solar charging is an addition to an existing jacket with features including 42 hidden pockets that can be wired together through the jacket lining."

308 comments

  1. Do not support them. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    In the interests of political correctness I wish to formally protest this device.

    It doesn't take into account the needs of miners, subway operators and sewer workers. I dream of a world in which these forgotten peoples and we surface dwellers can join hands in peace and rejoice in equal-opportunity recharging.

    Thank you.

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    1. Re:Do not support them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't support them because you can find the letters "SCO" at the beginning of their name. :)

    2. Re:Do not support them. by rifter · · Score: 1

      In the interests of political correctness I wish to formally protest this device.

      It doesn't take into account the needs of miners, subway operators and sewer workers. I dream of a world in which these forgotten peoples and we surface dwellers can join hands in peace and rejoice in equal-opportunity recharging.

      Thank you.

      They aren't going to win a lot of points with Tesla fans, either ;)...

      Since power cannot be transferred wirelessly, ICP and TEC designers were faced with different power-connector protocols for mobile devices. Consequently, the jacket will be sold with a small assortment of adapters to accommodate all major lines of phones, PDAs, cameras and other mobile devices.

  2. Old Sci-Fi? by Grey_14 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone get flashbacks to old Sci-Fi shows? with the gigantic shoulder pads? Can we get high stainless steel collars on our jackets too now?

    1. Re:Old Sci-Fi? by Tomun · · Score: 1

      That wasn't a sci-fi show. That was the 1980's..

  3. Clever by Krapangor · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the solar cells weight the same as batteries and their production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime.

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    1. Re:Clever by millahtime · · Score: 1

      But, this in the USA....that stuff doesn't matter. It's about convienance and neatness. Enviornmental what? Cost effective what? Actually worth owning what?

    2. Re:Clever by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

      Solar cells take more energy to produce than they will generate from sitting in the sun for their at-least-20-year projected life? I'd be interested to know a citation for that statistic.

      the solar cells weight the same as batteries...

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    3. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      production [of solar cells] uses up more energy than they provide in [the solar cells] entire lifetime.

      Please back this claim up with actual proof.

      While you are at it, compare and contrast this energy claim with:
      Natural Gas
      Oil
      Coal
      Nuclear
      Wind

      That way we'll all know what to pick in the future for our energy, ok?

    4. Re:Clever by thomasa · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime"

      This is false. The energy used in production
      is balanced by the energy produced after a couple
      of years of solar energy production. Solar cells
      can have a life time of over 20 years.

    5. Re:Clever by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      People tell this for decades now, and nobody has ANY proof or statistic.
      Its just "known" that solar cells have a negatice energy balance....
      Yeah. And exploding gasoline in a metal enclosure will NEVER get something moving faster than a horst, it is known...

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    6. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This is for the large-scale solar cells used in solar power plants. Surely those have been designed to provide the best cost/energy ratio. Your statistics are completely inapplicable to this situation, and I wouldn't be surprised if these wearable solar cells did use much more energy to make than they will ever produce. But who cares? The jacket took energy to make and it's not producing any. I think the issue is that for a similar cost/weight, you could simply add some rechargeable batteries into the jacket itself, and plug it in at night. Perhaps this would be good for backpacking for two weeks - who knows.

    7. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that looks almost like a haiku!

    8. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he bought the card on e-bay.

    9. Re:Clever by anthony_philipp · · Score: 1

      the article mentions that the solar panels recharge batteries which then recharge your pda/cell phone/whatever. in fact:

      "Intelligent battery-pack software, however, will identify and charge only those items that need it, according to Peress."

      but then again you read the article right?

    10. Re:Clever by pavon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly. The source of this common misunderstanding was some calculations that people did a while back looking at the feasability study seeing if that large "solar plant" (the one with a bunch of reflectors all going to a single collector in the center), could be completely self containing. The result was that it couldn't because if solar was your only form of energy you would end up loosing alot of energy when converting it to various forms. Transportation was a particular problem - you waste alot of energy converting solar energy to a form that can be used by a train or semi.

      So kwh-for-kwh solar does recoup at least 5x the energy that you put into it. And at the same time it does have a negative emergy ratio (note the m). What that means is that solar is great as a supplemental power source, but we need to find another energy source to power things like transportation.

    11. Re:Clever by Inda · · Score: 1

      It doesn't mean shite. They asked me to join when I was a teenager. My grasp of English was far more worser than it is now.

      Seriously, it was poor.

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    12. Re:Clever by spitzak · · Score: 3, Informative

      A battery (even a rechargable one) has negative energy costs too. It takes energy to manufacture them, plus all the energy that you get out has to be put in.

      Mensa indeed.

    13. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? All the most intelligent people I know don't even remotely care about mensa and all the members I know (only two) are more concerned about people thinking they are clever than actually being so.

    14. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...their production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime.

      If solar cell producers can buy power for less than my cost and pass the savings on to me guaranteed for 25 years then I am all for it.

      Or you could just be full of shit.

    15. Re:Clever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You moron. Why does some fool like you have to bring this up at every solar power story?

      I know, IHBT...

    16. Re:Clever by lommer · · Score: 1

      IIRC, it's not that they take more energy to make than they produce, it's that the production process creates/uses all sorts of nasty chemicals which have a detrimental effect on the environment. Thus, while the post-production energy created by solar cells may be clean, the net environmental impact is actually pretty bad (depending on how you weight the various components - it's kind of difficult to convert between units of toxic chemicals and energy).

    17. Re:Clever by willtsmith · · Score: 1

      And exactly how would you discrimate it with:

      1) Nuclear, which leaves radioactive piles of sludge that will be unsafe for 10,000 years.

      2) Sulfur Coal - Deposits all kind of waste into the atmosphere.

      3) That dirt petro mix that they scrape up and burn in texas.

      So you see it's all a matter of perspective. It really depends on how many total KWH the panel delivers during it's lifetime.

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    18. Re:Clever by Flingles · · Score: 1

      now if only we could have the solar cell manufacturing plant running on the previous year's solar cells...

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    19. Re:Clever by dbIII · · Score: 1
      People tell this for decades now, and nobody has ANY proof or statistic
      It's listed in the same place where they say that coal is more radioactive than plutionium - and that plutonium is so clean you can brush your teeth with it.

      The wonders of PR agencies never cease - if only we could keep their noses out of expensive white powder.

  4. At last by jot445 · · Score: 1

    Now I have an excuse for wearing my pants dropped around below my butt... because I'm wearing solar powered boxers! (and I'm _loving_ it!)

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  5. Homeland Security will love this one. by Damon+C.+Richardson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can't wait to walk past TSA with this hooked up to my pda, mp3 player and gameboy advance.

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    1. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Doesn't even NEED devices attached. Run this through an Xray machine and pray you have your receipt and owners manual with you when they are trying to figure out why your jacket is wired up like a Christmas tree.

    2. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Zeinfeld · · Score: 0
      Doesn't even NEED devices attached. Run this through an Xray machine and pray you have your receipt and owners manual with you when they are trying to figure out why your jacket is wired up like a Christmas tree.

      Actually there is no problem, You have to take the jacket off anyway. When I put mine through an airport scanner the TSA generally know what it is and the sort of people who wear them. Unless the guy is a complete rube they generally look it through discretely without telling the whole concourse about it.

      Of course the fact that mine has 'US Secret Service' on the front probably helps.

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    3. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by plover · · Score: 1
      To tell you the truth, I've checked my coat every time I've flown since September 11th, 2001. No point in lugging extra crap around that they're just going to search anyway.

      But with my current run of luck, I could probably show up at the gate naked and they'd still want to search me. I must have a name on a watch list or something. Perhaps Slashdot readers are automatically entered in the Homeland Security Sweepstakes?

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    4. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Slider451 · · Score: 1

      Of course the fact that mine has 'US Secret Service' on the front probably helps.

      Off-topic:
      I thought all you needed to identify yourself as SS was a coiled wire coming from your ear piece. I suppose after the Matrix that's not enough anymore.

      Does anyone else find it ironic that the Secret Service has logos, patches, and ball caps displaying their name?

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    5. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by lindsayt · · Score: 1

      For me it's been just the opposite: before 11 Sept I would get stopped every time, sometimes multiple times in one airport. I'd spread my legs, they'd search me, they'd unpack all my stuff in front of me, some times they'd make me remove various articles of clothing (never completely to nothing, but sometimes close), and so forth. One time coming from London I was stopped six times in Heathrow, three of which involved unpacking and repacking all of my stuff and one of which involved a full search.

      Since 11 September the worst I've gotten was having to take off my shoes, and that wasn't even in America - that was in Frankfurt. Now I just gleefully walk onto the plane, no trouble at all.

      My best guess is that I may have looked like some IRA terrorist, and of course I was younger. Now I'm older and they're no longer interested in the IRA. Anyway, 11 Sept has made my flying experience easier.

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    6. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Does anyone else find it ironic that the Secret Service has logos, patches, and ball caps displaying their name?

      I've seen the jacket in question, he once wore it at an IETF meeting. "Zeinfeld" admitted that he bought it from a merchandise operation the secret service run inside the Whitehouse that funds some secret service charity.

      Quite how a UK national gets to do security related work in the Whitehouse is not clear to me.

    7. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      With 42 pockets, if you can't put your receipt and owner's manual in one of them, you are a complete potzer.

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    8. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 1

      But with my current run of luck, I could probably show up at the gate naked and they'd still want to search me.

      If I showed up at the gate naked and they searched me, I'd let them find something. Just have to remember to hit taco bell and drink some Labatt the night before.

    9. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by rifter · · Score: 1

      Unless the guy is a complete rube they generally look it through discretely without telling the whole concourse about it.

      You do realize you are talking about airport security guards, right? Sheesh DMV robots are more savvy!

    10. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      Actually, the SCOTTeVEST makes going through security much easier. All you have to do is place the jacket with gadgets, etc. loaded, through the xray. No longer do you have to unload all your devices. This has been tested by thousands of users. I don't believe the addition of the solar panels will change that. Scott Jordan, President SCOTTeVEST

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  6. That's just great by drizst+'n+drat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now I can walk around looking like a high-tech docking station. Wonder what the neighbors will think.

    1. Re:That's just great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you wear it, I really doubt the women will think "docking station" when they look at you.

  7. Wash by Achoi77 · · Score: 1

    How do you wash it? Dryclean? A soft moist cloth? Those lysol wipes, and that cool foamy spray stuff to clean your desk with?

    1. Re:Wash by mfisher · · Score: 2, Informative

      How should my SCOTTeVEST(R) be cared for? Why can't I dry clean my SCOTTeVEST(R)? First, and most importantly, REMOVE ALL DEVICES, WIRES, KEYS, etc. from your SeV. Then, it's easy! DO NOT DRY CLEAN! You will ruin the fabric if you do so. Machine wash in cold water with like colors, delicate cycle recommended. Do not use bleach. Tumble dry LOW, cool iron if necessary. Do not dry flat. Do not steam press.

    2. Re:Wash by grub · · Score: 2, Funny

      You put the hood up and walk through a car wash.

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    3. Re:Wash by plover · · Score: 1
      How do you wash it?

      You read Slashdot, right? The answer is simple. Bring it upstairs to your mom, and ask her to wash it. :-)

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  8. Try wearing this through airport security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and you will realize how charged u want to stay.

    1. Re:Try wearing this through airport security by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      That was my first thought, actually. A few years back few people would have cared, today the airport Nazis will probably have you marched off and interrogated as a potential terrorist (even though no terrorist in their right mind would wear such a thing).

      As wearable computers become more common, these airport practices are going to become more and more insane.

    2. Re:Try wearing this through airport security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or try walking through downtown Jerusalem....

  9. Power Coat! by mfisher · · Score: 1

    Pff power source who needs it! This is great.. In the past couple years we have seen some new KEY inventions. This is one of them.. I am keen to see how this works in the real market. If it works like they say it will it will be a revolutionary product. Also love the fact that the jacket looks so well! This will be great for avalance victims.. Great for people who do remote sports. Good job SCOTTeVEST

  10. No market for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    This presupposes that geeks would expose themselves to natural sunlight.

    1. Re:No market for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had no idea there was that much wattage in a refrigerator light bulb....

    2. Re:No market for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that geeks wear jackets when the sun is out.

  11. This is ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But what I really want is a solar-charged version of North Face's MET5 Jacket for an extended heating period.

  12. Try and get that through airport security. by FJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get prepared to answer about one million questions when you put it through the xray machine. To be on the safe side, arrive about 2 days prior to your departure time.

    1. Re:Try and get that through airport security. by claar · · Score: 1

      Especially with the latest new security measures!

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    2. Re:Try and get that through airport security. by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      It is much easier to travel with the SCOTTeVEST. All you have to do is put it through the xray with gadgets in it. No longer do you have to put your devices in the little buckets. I don't believe the addition of a solar panel will change that. Scott Jordan, President SCOTTeVEST

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  13. Hmmm... by cabingirl · · Score: 3, Funny

    So they make a geek toy that requires sunlight to operate? How will we maintain our pasty complexions?

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  14. Mars Rover's Mom by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    I hope you wore your solar jacket. It's cold on Mars at night, you know!

    Awww mom!

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  15. Re:Yeah, right by TheGatekeeper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Waoh, the rumours of the daystar are TRUE!

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  16. Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by John+Jorsett · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone else see a fundamental flaw in the assumptions about the potential market?

  17. I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by torpor · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... and I have to say that its crap.

    The build quality is ludicrous - the magnet clasps fell out 3 days after I put it on.

    Plus, even though I ordered a medium, it still seems like you have to be a fat, overweight geek with 17 gadgets in his pockets in order for it to fit right.

    My opinion is this: don't get one unless you're going to walk around with $2,000 of gear stuffed into the pockets, because it won't fit right otherwise...

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    1. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 1

      > the magnet clasps fell out 3 days after I put it on.

      Hang on, did I read that right? They expect you to fill your pockets to overflowing with consumer electronics, and it's held together by *magnets*?

      Sheesh...

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    2. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by dustmote · · Score: 1

      The sad part is, I'm not even all that interested in the solar energy part, but the "42 pockets" really got my attention. *sigh* - sometimes I envy women's purses. I have too much stuff in my pockets all the time.

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    3. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 1, Funny

      "fat, overweight geek with 17 gadgets in his pockets"

      Mod -1, Redundant (is there any other kind of geek?)

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    4. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by plover · · Score: 1
      Plus, even though I ordered a medium, it still seems like you have to be a fat, overweight geek with 17 gadgets in his pockets in order for it to fit right.

      If I were the slashdot tailor, that would put me out of business right there...

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    5. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy a backpack!

    6. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by proj_2501 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know, having an average Tac vest from your local Army Navy surplus store may do the trick. They come in nice colors.

    7. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't bring that to work.

    8. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by deblau · · Score: 1

      What do you expect after wearing a jacket for 3 days? I'm amazed the clasps lasted the first night's sleep.

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    9. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by GlassUser · · Score: 1

      Star wars geek. But I guess the light saber will bulk you too.

    10. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      the magnet clasps fell out 3 days after I put it on

      Magnets! *hissssss* My arch nemeses!





      Hisssss!

    11. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by torpor · · Score: 1

      No, there's a flap that goes over the zipper, this is held together with magnets. The rest of the jacket is a myriad of flaps and zippers and folds and holes.

      Its just a really low-quality jacket, is all I'm saying. Feels cheap, and was cheap.

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    12. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by EyeSavedLatin · · Score: 1
      "unless you're going to walk around with $2,000 of gear stuffed into the pockets"

      If you live in a city you might as well just get a sign that says "Rob Me!" It's akin to the people I see fiddling with their iPods on the subway at 10PM. Easy targets.

    13. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      The flap that covers the zipper has pairs of small weak magnets that keep it closed. I *love* this feature. The magnets are too small to hurt any sort of electronics, and the way those magnets are stitched in to the 3.0 vest, I can't imagine how they could fall out short of a critical failure on an attempt to jump over a barbed wire fence. :)

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    14. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      I got a 3.0 vest because of the pockets, and it is great. Of course, my wife calls it my "man purse". ;)

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    15. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scrawny, underweight geek with 17 gadgets bulging in his or her pockets?

    16. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Uh...a skinny, gaunt geek with a camera/phone/laptop/mediaplayer/gameboy/pocket fisherman in a single, impossible to use unit?

      The kind of cat that buys a $2000 OQO or a $500 iPod, and the first thing he does is DELETE THE OS and install Linux (over the course of six or seven days).

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    17. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Jahf · · Score: 1

      I use a v1.5 vest regularly while riding on my motorcycle. Doesn't feel cheap, just "slim" (as in thin material, but I like the microfiber) ... it fits good under another jacket without the sleeves. I use it to hold an MP3 player, PDA, keys, wallet, etc.

      I bought an XXL size and at the time I was an XXL and rather than being too big (as in "fat geek") it was too small around the middle. I've lost weight and now it fits perfectly so it would appear their big sizes are too small and their small sizes are too big. Other than that, no complaints.

      Of course, I bought it for $79 on close-out, so I'm alot happier than I would be if I'd paid $199. It looks like the 3.0 is going closeout soon in favor of the 3.0+ ... so check the discount geek outlets (I found mine at a PDA shop online).

      If I had a way to test-fit the 3.0 without having to pay to return it I would be very seriously considering upgrading. Especially if I could find a way to fit motorcycle armor into the leather version.

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    18. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      that's the point of a scottevest you dont see ANYTHING on the person.

      and I have 2 of them and they are made very well. I had a magnet clasp come off one and they replaced the jacket for me for free.

      just because someone got the wrong size and had a couple of defects mean's nothing.

      these are great jackets, I just wish they made a cold weather jacket instead of only light spring jackets or wind breakers.

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    19. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      We take great pride in the quality of our products and fully guaranty them. If you had a problem, all you have to do is call/email us, and we will replace or repair your jacket, at no charge. We have NEVER had any issues brought to our attention about the magnets, ever. Please call us on Monday to arrange for a repair/replacement. Scott Jordan, Pressident SCOTTeVEST

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    20. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      We don't expect to lower prices of Version 3.0 anytime soon. Also, there are no plans for Version 4.0 until 2005. If you purchase one, you can return it if you don't like it. Scott Jordan, SCOTTeVEST

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    21. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by torpor · · Score: 1


      I'm sorry Scott, if my review here on /. appeared harsh, but I was disappointed with my purchase. Not -so much- that I felt warranted to request a refund, alas.

      If I have any suggestions, it is to get some real clothing designers to work with you on the pattern. Maybe adapt your existing know-how for 'wired clothing' into some more old-school fashion-conscious design ideals ... maybe its time for a new product line with consumer electronics in mind? I found that there was no comfortable place to put my ipod without it bouncing and trouncing around, or yanking the light fabric of the vest into an awkward mis-fit. carrying an ipod, a clie and a cell phone, the whole vest just got clanky.

      Sorry, but most clothing just isn't designed to -carry- a few extra pounds of weight, only conceal it. I didn't feel like the vest fit properly when it was 'loaded', nor carried things particularly well... but that could just be my frame.

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    22. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      What version did you get? We addressed many of those issues in Version Three.0. Please let me know.

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  18. Just remember one thing when you're out in the sun by vchoy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Slap on some sunscreen, you may get burnt from the sun otherwise..

  19. SCOttevest? Uh oh... by SoTuA · · Score: 2, Funny
    those guys should expect a lawsuit withing the hour, as SCO will claim that they own the patents and intellectual properties on the sun, heat, and the universe.

    Darl: "Your honor, the vest is called a SCOttevest. It is a clear indicator that our IP has been incorporated in this vest!"

    Judge Scott: "I'm not amused."

  20. Night Time by millahtime · · Score: 1

    This is a geek thing. Don't geeks stay inside all day. Where will they see the light to recharge? From their car to the house? From their house to work? That's like a minute a day.

  21. Version Three.0 + Finetex by locknloll · · Score: 3, Funny
    From the feature list:
    Perfect For
    • Skiing/Snowboarding
    • Photography
    • Traveling
    • Hiking
    • Law enforcement
    Law enforcement... cool. Now the cops can keep their 50kV stun guns charged all the time!
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    1. Re:Version Three.0 + Finetex by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

      "Law enforcement... cool. Now the cops can keep their 50kV stun guns charged all the time!"

      I'd say for the dude getting stunned it beats having their issue sidearms charged at all times...but that's another debate alltogether [of which I don't normally support, e.g. menace to society.... we put you down sucka!]

      Tom

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    2. Re:Version Three.0 + Finetex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, you could perhaps also use this to keep your manham canning devices charged at all times, Tom. Imagine the manham canning effeciency you could achieve!!!

    3. Re:Version Three.0 + Finetex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, you could perhaps also use this to keep your manham canning devices charged at all times, Tom. Imagine the manham canning effeciency you could achieve!!!

  22. Wasn't someone by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    pulled off a flight recently because of wires sticking out of a motorcycle jacket?

    NYtimes article (no reg required).

    Wonder what they'd do to you if you were wearing one of these? Interrogation? Beatings? Electrodes on your nipples?

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    1. Re:Wasn't someone by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 2, Funny

      >>Electrodes on your nipples?

      Powered by your very own solar panels. No sense wasting taxpayer money on electricity. :)

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  23. Probably a tad useless.... by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

    1) Most (good) gadgets run for several days, you can power them up during the night

    2) When you're out walking, you'd want to USE the damn gadget, not recharge it.

    3) Is the jacket durable enough? Aren't solarcells a bit weak to be worn all the time?

    1. Re:Probably a tad useless.... by plover · · Score: 1
      I'm seriously considering this because I go camping for a week at a time and none of my gear (Palm Tungsten, cell phone or Rino) will last a full week without external juice.

      However, I really use the Tungsten only at night (for satellite predictions), and so I could charge it during the day in camp with an ordinary solar charger. Last trip I hiked it out to the vehicle for mid-week charging. And the GPS takes 3 AA batteries, which are also replaceable in camp. But the phone ...

      I just realized something else. When the sun is actually shining, the jacket is usually not on my body. I wear it only in the rain! And since I live in Minnesota the sun is not shining when I'm outside during the week -- I travel to work before sunrise and return home after sunset.

      OK, consideration over. The cool factor is high, but the practicality factor for me is about zero.

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    2. Re:Probably a tad useless.... by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

      Ah, your right on one thing: explorers & campers would find it handy. But as for sunshine: The sun shines anyway and it'll power up your solarpanels anyway, whether it's actually 'sunny' weather or not.

  24. Yawn.... by ceeam · · Score: 1

    I bet I've read this shit back in the 80s... Why are all slashdot articles nowdays _sooo_ boring? What should we do finally get public articles moderation?

  25. But what happens... by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when it starts raining? ...when you try to get through airport security? ...when someone h4X0rs your jacket via Bluetooth? ...when you can't find your pager/cellphone because you have 42 different pockets?

    Personally, I think they haven't thought this one through. Solar power is for wimps. My jacket has a 17-foot lightning rod attached for energy collection. (It was either that or the rubber-soled-shoe/shag-pile-carpet combination, but that only works indoors.)

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    1. Re:But what happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when it gets sunny ?

      You take the jacket off !

  26. Linux by millahtime · · Score: 0

    I just have to ask....will the power controller run linux???

  27. Thanks but no thanks by Judg3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The jacket is a cool idea, but unless all of the devices worn on it are bulletproof (which would be pretty slick) I'll pass.
    As it is, I had an Ipaq as well as several other PDAs before. They where just to fragile for me to consider carrying them that close to me all the time.
    About the only thing I feel comfortable carrying on my person would be my cellphone and pager - everything else would have me trying to constantly remember things like "Ok, PDA in pocket X, make sure I don't sit/do jumping jacks/box/etc etc".

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    1. Re:Thanks but no thanks by NixLuver · · Score: 1

      Sorry, off topic, I know, but damn ... "ADD is not a joke, it's a serious problem. Treat it as such." WTF? Perhaps you've not heard jokes about car wrecks, mysogyny, philandering, cancer, death, terrorists, racial stereotypes, rampant stupidity, innocent ignorance... What the hell else *would* we joke about, besides "serious problems" and sex?

    2. Re:Thanks but no thanks by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

      ...but unless all of the devices worn on it are bulletproof...

      So... you're going to walk around with X-boxes hanging under your coat?

  28. but.. but... by mr.+methane · · Score: 1, Redundant

    wouldn't this require us to... *shudder*... actually go out in sunlight???

    Fiends. Next thing you know they'll be selling tanning beds for vampires.

  29. Re:Yeah, right by grub · · Score: 1

    Their parents will get suspicious when the geeks want to rig the basement up with a few dozen 300 watt lamps.

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  30. You have two options for charge using that jacket by Via_Patrino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have two options for charge that jacket:

    1) Use it with you inside, but you can damage your skin appearence or get cancer that way

    2) Leave the jacket staring on the sun, but the sun will damage your jacket (specially colors) and soon you will not be able to use it on yourself (you still can just carry it with you though)

    I would prefer carry just that flexible solar panels on my pocket/car/wallet

  31. Re:Yeah, right by Cragen · · Score: 1

    What we need is NEON panels! Harness all that wasted lightbulb light back into batteries or something! (I was joking, but now that I actually read this back to myself, this seems like an excellent idea. Is there any possibility that this could ever work? If not, why not? Just curious.) *cragen

  32. Solar good, stupid bad. by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

    The problem with solar is that it's inefficient. So if everyone has their own portable solar station with them they waste a lot of material and ironically energy.

    Why not just put more outlets at airports, restaurants then supplment the powergrid with more solar?

    So far of the five airports I've been to I've never seen an electrical outlet anywhere. That to me is just plain stupid.

    Even in the new Ottawa airport there aren't any. So they spend billions on some "art nouveau deco" for the airport then don't spend the time to wire it up. Hazaa!

    This is why business people are stupid. They never think to steps ahead of right now...

    Tom

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    1. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by dave420 · · Score: 1
      It's more for keeping things charged when you're walking around. Keeping your ipod charged when you're running around town is hard if you have to stop every 30mins and sit down somewhere to charge it up some more.

      If you want power sockets, go to the first class or business lounge ;) they have them.

    2. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that's a damn good point. Last time I flew, I spent a while looking for a power point for my laptop without success. I remember a few years back they at least had covered ones in the floor for the cleaners to plug vacuum cleaners into. When did they dissapear?

    3. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by NixLuver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's because they don't want you sucking up their precious power.

      I'd wager that there are enough people with cell phones, PDAs, laptops, and portable music devices that to provide any significant number of outlets would generate a hefty boost in the electric bill... Not to mention that they couldn't put in 'a few'.

    4. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by Beebos · · Score: 1

      Not only do airports not want you sucking up their power, but they don't want people sprawled about the airport with their laptops and other gadgets out taking up space. Have you ever noticed how at airports many people are oblivious to the throngs of other people around them? People will plop down by an outlet so they can charge their laptop, eventhough there are hundreds of people trying to get around them.

      Another example of this, and I see it all the time, is when a group of people come to the end of a moving sidewalk and they stop just after they get off, oblivious to the fact that there are a lot of people on the sidewalk behind them who would also like to get off.

    5. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      Its also worth mentioning that those power outlets aren't intended for customer use, according to the people at American Airlines at least: they're intended for cleaning crews to be able to plug in vacuum cleaners, as well as extra lighting/fans/tvs etc.

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  33. Battery Pack? by Avsen · · Score: 1

    Not a bad idea for a jacket -- though I do have a gripe with the battery pack. Though small (sized like a cardpack) -- it will still probably make the jacket feel offweight. I wouldn't mind just using the solarpanels by themselves to charge up my devices (since most of them already have built-in batteries).

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    1. Re:Battery Pack? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      The jacket probably uses the battery to take the charge from the solar panels before charging the devices. The battery will be there to maintain the same power when a cloud covers the sun, etc. Without it, your current would be jumping up and down (and not many electronic gadgets like that ;))

    2. Re:Battery Pack? by Avsen · · Score: 1

      True -- but my Palm wouldn't really mind anyway, since it has a built-in battery. Sure -- the current would jump up and down, but the internal device battery is being charged when the sun is up anyway.

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    3. Re:Battery Pack? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Even though it has a built-in battery, having a (normally static) supply voltage jumping up and down from 0v to 12v would probably piss it off (and possibly even affect charging). The big battery doesn't mind being charged intermittently, and can stabilise the charge given to the other devices. I guess it's to make the supplied voltage behave more like a mains-connected charger, to ensure compatibility.

  34. Be the first to wear this through an airport. by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 1

    TSA people will love this.
    On the other hand, warwalkers should.

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  35. Celeberty Endorsement? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Are they going to market one with Steve Mann's name on it?

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  36. I like by gr8_phk · · Score: 0

    I like to wear a jacket on a bright sunny day. This is like the old solar powered flashlight.

  37. features including 42 hidden pockets by ocie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now where did I put those keys?

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  38. Not sure how well this will go over by djhankb · · Score: 1

    As most geeks I know don't spend much time in the sun.

    Perhaps a Flourescent powered jacket? or CRT powered Jacket? ;-)

    -Henry

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  39. Could a pedometer type of charger be made? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Or would there not be enough movement and/or efficient parts to generate a decent amount of power?

  40. Don't fuck with homeland security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder what they'd do to you if you were wearing one of these? Interrogation? Beatings? Electrodes on your nipples?

    Electrodes on your testicals, followed by extradition to Germany for consumption by the world famous cannibal guy.

    Don't fuck with Homeland Security.

  41. FineTex exterior by Sara+Chan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The jacket has a FineTex exterior. Does anyone know how this compares with Goretex? (The web sitesays "just like Gore-Tex, but not as costly".)

    1. Re:FineTex exterior by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is water-proof and breathable, and you can't tell the difference between this and Gore-tex. Scott Jordan, President, www.scottevest.com

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    2. Re:FineTex exterior by LordDartan · · Score: 1

      I'm impressed. The president of the company not only reads slashdot, but responds to questions as well!

      Now for my questions. When and where will this be available for purchase, and will there be an option to plug this into an power outlet to charge everything (that would be so much simpler than taking everything out of the jacket and plugging them into their respective chargers)?

    3. Re:FineTex exterior by plover · · Score: 1
      Is FineTex a separate liner layer like GoreTex, or is it built in to the exterior fabric like Columbia's OmniTech?

      Just so you know I bought a new GoreTex jacket this winter because I hated the way my four year old OmniTech soaked through after maybe an hour in the rain. ReviveX helped, but I still am not a big "integral waterproofing" fan. I prefer the separate layer.

      And since you seem to be responding better than your server (no offense intended, a slashdotting is not a trivial thing to survive) are all the seams taped and/or sealed?

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    4. Re:FineTex exterior by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      It is a separate layer, with Dupont Coolmax mesh interior lining. The seams are not taped. There are just too many of them. To do so, it would cost about twice as much as it does now. I use it to ski in Sun Valley where we live, and I haven't had any problems with water coming in. I have been waiting for three years to get a post on slashdot, and even have a dedicated server, so I am really upset about site being down. Thanks for understanding.

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  42. newclear powered wwwuniverse eliminates need.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for phonIE gadgets/recharging?

    this stuff is unbreakable, wwworks on several (more than 3) dimensions, & is free, as in possibly surviving the georgewellian fuddite corepirate nazi life0cide against the creators' planet/population.

    georgewellian fuddite corepirate nazi felons' (Score:mynuts won, all you really need is oxygen?)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 14, @09:25AM (#7972904)
    badtoll plan for US, shrouded in greed/fear/ego based ?pr firm? stock markup FraUD hypenosys/deception?

    there can be only won? lookout bullow.

    consult with/trust in yOUR creators.... get ready to brighten up.

  43. Re: by cynyr · · Score: 1

    $2000...!!! thats my laptop(a fujitsu p2110) and IPod.... total they would both fit on a sheet of 8.5x11" paper and be no taller than 1.5" so $2000 in gear isn't very much. the laptop was $1800 new and the IPod was like around $300(however much a 15 gig one was a year ago)

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  44. Free solar energy magazine by Lord+Satri · · Score: 1

    Well, ok, not only solar energy, better than this actually. The Renewable Energy Magazine is a great resource in the domain. It is also free providing you work with renewable resources. I have been reading this magazine for a year and learned so much on renewable energies. Worthed. See http://www.jxj.com/magsandj/rew/index.html

  45. Can I DDoS the company when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    one of their jackets causes all planes to be grounded and the airport to be evacuated the next time I take a trip and it's delayed for 8 hours?

  46. Are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're a mensa, you're supposed to fly under the radar, not put it in your sig, you simpleton.

    1. Re:Are you serious? by llefler · · Score: 1

      He didn't say it was his card.

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    2. Re:Are you serious? by MrBlint · · Score: 0

      Badges? We don't need no stinking Badges!

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  47. Biiiiiird-man by danidude · · Score: 1

    Cool! Now I know why Bird-Man has to recharche......

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  48. Power from the solar cells ? by BESTouff · · Score: 1

    How much power do these two little solar cells generate ? I highly doubt it's sufficient to feed all gadgets at once.

  49. You post too much and you're not funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Stop clogging up the comment boards with multiple poor top-level posts... they're all terrible attempts to be funny and my neck hurts from shaking my head so much. PLEASE go outside and get some air and exercise.

    1. Re:You post too much and you're not funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      and my neck hurts from shaking my head so much.

      Scientology can help you with that.

  50. Geeks don't drink sunshine... by Saeger · · Score: 1
    ...they drink Coke.

    A solar powered jacket would require you to be... outside... with that big bright light up in the sky shining down radiation(!). No thanks. The better solution would be to drink mass quantities of carbonated sugarwater, then converting the extra glucose in your bloodstream into the power that you need (to operate the computer that orders you more Coke, that gets converted to the power you need to...)

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  51. In related news, WalkenWear has now introduced... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the wearable, washable, fully rechargable, solar powered...

    Cowbell.

    Walken. Teh Spoke. Word.

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  52. Somebody translate the sizes, please? by TA · · Score: 1

    I want one. But not being from the country of the jacket's origin, I'm not
    familiar with the sizes. The size selection (see web site) is as follows:

    small
    medium
    large
    large - tall
    x-large
    x-large - tall
    xx-large
    xx-large - tall
    xxx-large
    xxx-large - tall

    I'm about 182 cm (~ 6") tall, and my arm reach from fingertip to fingertip
    is also about six feet as well. Quite slim (didn't grow up on hamburgers :-).
    Now, what of the above sizes would fit this guy?

    1. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Just a guess, but a large tall would probably be about right. A medium would probably be to short a 6 ft, and if you're quite slim an X-large would be way to big. A large may be to big if you're slim, but at least is wouldn't be hanging around above your navel.

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    2. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X-Large is most likley your size.
      Worst case scenario it would be slighty too large.

      Many "Large" sizes would be too small on a 6' person however.

    3. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Based on our different advice,

      whats the weight of the person in question?

      and another question normal build? Or a funky build like I had when I rode my bike every where, huge legs that added around 30 lbs to my weight and caused even normal relaxed fit jeans to be to tight on the legs but to loose on the waist?

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    4. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by TA · · Score: 1

      Weight? 77-80 kg (the latter is post-Christmas)
      Pounds? Hm, I think that translates to around 170-175 pounds .

    5. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm 5'10 and 230 lbs. I can get a large on, but it's tight. X-Large is my size. The 50 lbs less part makes me stand by my original statement. Large-tall. (a regular large may cut it though)

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    6. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      I'm 180cm and fairly slim weighing about 78.5kg.

      I own a medium and it fits me great. It comes down about 14cm below my hips (the top of my jeans) which is exactly where I'd expect a jacket to be. It is roomy enough inside for me to wear it with a sweater or with the fleece lining zipped in and no sweater. It is a bit too bulky to try both.

      Hope this helps

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    7. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      It's very tough figuring out the sizes without being able to try it on. One good thing, they have a guarentee, so if you get the medium or the large-tall and it doesn't work out, you can send it back and get the right size and you won't be out anything more than shipping costs.

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    8. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by willtsmith · · Score: 1

      I think it's great that he makes tall sizes. Their popular judging from the fact that the tall sizes are all sold out.

      Retailers don't keep enough tall stuff in stock. It's easy to roll up sleaves, but when the sleaves come half way up your wrists, it really sucks.

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    9. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by TA · · Score: 1

      This is true, if you live in the same country! But those of use living overseas would lose a lot of money on the shipping costs, as well as getting hell with customs. Tax+VAT would add another 30% to the cost (I would even have to pay VAT on the shipping!) and it's a bureacratic nightmare for a private person (it's less trouble for companies, although not without hassles) to get customs to understand that you shouldn't have to pay duty+VAT one more time for the replacement jacket.

    10. Re:Somebody translate the sizes, please? by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      Wow.. I can certainly say that would suck. :/ Well, hopefully the measurements I provided will be of some use to the parent in their attempts to make a decision.

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  53. While we're talking about gadgets power... by ceeam · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if there are (or coming soon) some alternative to AA NiMH rechargeables? Wanted: lower weight, should not drain during storage, should not drain / die in the cold / heat (like, EG, -10C..40C). Anything?

    1. Re:While we're talking about gadgets power... by dave420 · · Score: 1
      Most devices have their own batteries these days. I imagine there's not a great deal of money in creating Li-Ion AA batteries. Plus, they'd have to worry about different power draining depending on what the batteries are in.

      It would be good, though.

  54. Headphones in the hood? by richlb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why didn't they stick a hood on that thing and integrate headphones into it? That would be cool.

    1. Re:Headphones in the hood? by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      I understand that there is a hood, I believe, although sans the integrated headphones of the Burton AMP jackets. That said, I wouldn't want integrated headphones: I spent good money on high quality headphones for my iPod, so why would I want to be limited to the headphones this comp picked? Moreover, why would I essentially want to buy an additional set of headphones, since I just got these new Sonys?

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    2. Re:Headphones in the hood? by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      That is a great idea! Scott are you paying attention?!?

      Jaysyn

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  55. They actually liked my suggestion! Way to go, Scott!

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  56. Intended public: Eloi by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not designed for Morlocks.

    1. Re:Intended public: Eloi by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      What about the Chuds? What about the Mole people? What about the CRAB PEOPLE?!?!

      We show these cultures no respect whatsoever. No wonder they resent us and our day star!

      And I'm sure, somehow, it's all the GOP's fault.

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  57. Jackass by GlassUser · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not buying crap from this guy. I'd never heard of him until I got a spam listing one of his products (in all fairness, I have no reason to believe that this original spam was in any way affiliated with him). Apparently an image was linked from his web site, so when I reported it, his ISP got on the LART list. (this part is my conjecture) He ignored the request for info from his ISP, and as per their policy that he agreed to, they disabled his site. He didn't find out for a couple more days and then got really pissed at me (end my conjecture). So he emailed me and threatened to sue me for things like trying to destroy his business, taking his name (his last name is my first name), and some kind of trade infringement since we have the same name and we have businesses that work with portable computers. I told him where to stick it and to learn to be responsible for his web site and customers, he said I'd hear from his lawyer. A few months later I got a not-quite-spam from his company. (more conjecture follows) Either his ISP didn't think it was spam, they ignored the LART, or he learned to actually check up on his web site.

    Either way I make sure to tell people not to do business with this loser.

    1. Re:Jackass by ahrenritter · · Score: 3, Informative

      I purchased their products for myself and as gifts. I've communicated with both him and his wife and they were professional and friendly.

      I accidentally got on their mailing list twice, and I was easily able to unsubscribe the second address.

      I won't discount any of your statements since I don't know the details of your interaction with him, but I just wanted to give my personal opinions regarding SCOTTeVEST.

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    2. Re:Jackass by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      This guy is a piece of work! We were mentioned in a Microsoft newsletter that required subscription/opt-in. I think it was called pocket news. Our company was mentioned in one of the many stories buried in the newsletter. It was suggesting that people check out our products for gift ideas. We had no knowledge whatsoever that it would be mentioned and never paid for the inclusion. Any idiot looking at the newsletter could clearly tell that it did not originate with our company, but this idiot elected to report our website as the offending company, and they shut our site down. Simply stated I think it is this idiot's partial responsibility to read the newsletter and make an educated judgement before reporting our company or others as spam. This guy after all subscribed to the MS newsletter. People like this really piss me off! Scott Jordan, President SCOTTeVEST

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    3. Re:Jackass by GlassUser · · Score: 1

      Your reading comprehension needs work too. The newsletter was onsolicited commercial email (if you read closer, you may note that I said I had no reason to believe it came from your company). I reported it and all links, as per procedure. If you had read your email and responded to the notification from your ISP as per their policy that you agreed to (which I read in detail), you would have realized that it's your responsibility to respond to their inquiries within three days on these types of issues. You seem to have ignored it. At your response, the ISP probably would have dismissed the issue immediately - they may have asked me for my input, and I would have of course said that I didn't think you were involved. If you had met your contractual obligations, this would be a non-issue. Instead you choose to blame me and threaten me with lawyers.

      In short, it is my opinion that you are incapable of meeting your responsibilities, holding to your end of contractual agreements, and taking responsibility for the consequences of (in)actions.

    4. Re:Jackass by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      We both have responsibiliites. You have a responsibility not to report every single company mentioned in an email newsletter you subscribed to, including those that are clearly not responsible for sending the message. Can't you even now admit that???????? You are indignant even to this day. My webhoster sent an email to webmaster@scottevest.com, which was never set up, and thus I never received the email they sent. But all that is besides the point. If you go off sending notices re spam when something clearly isn't spam, then be prepared to accept some responsibility! Yours Truly, Scott

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  58. Re:Yeah, right by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Nah. They'll just think you're growing pot.

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  59. lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Speare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a number of wired jackets which would cause security problems. A lady with a self-warming leather jacket was stopped recently, and there are self-defense electrified jackets which would definitely be seen as a weapon.

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    1. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Informative

      more than stopped, on a flight from Paris to Cinci, the pilot requested fighter accompanyment due to the 'heater jacket'

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    2. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by 0123456 · · Score: 0, Troll

      If I was a pilot, I'd be far more worried about some twenty-year-old in a fighter with a bunch of heat-seeking missiles than by a passenger with a jacket.

    3. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid moderator. This was supposed to be funny. Self-heating jacket & jeat-seeking missiles... Get it?

    4. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      Is this because of a general lack of respect for those in the military and the refusal to acknowledge that anyone allowed to fly a fighter jet is a highly trained and very disciplined individual or was it just mindless sarcasm?

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    5. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Highly trained and disciplined? Tell that to the family members of the four Canadians in this article.

    6. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      Is this because of a general lack of respect for those in the military and the refusal to acknowledge that anyone allowed to fly a fighter jet is a highly trained and very disciplined individual or was it just mindless sarcasm?

      How about: none of the above.

      As for your so called 'highly trained and very disciplined' individuals, between 1984 and 1994 the U.S. military crashed 1,523 aircraft. Just to put that in perspective, that's enough crashes to wipe out the combined British and Canadian airforce three times over! The US may have a slightly better record these days, but you can't blame the original poster for being a bit skeptical.

      P.S. I personally knew Cpl Ainsworth Dyer, one of the four soldiers killed. If Major Schmidt had been a bit more disciplined, Dyer would most likely still be alive today.

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    7. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Gaijin42 · · Score: 1

      I am very white, and I get stopped every single time I fly, and my luggage is searched.

      My dad is an immigrant, but thats the only thing wierd about me.

    8. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 1
      yeah. but if you're white it doesn't matter...
      at least that's how it seems.


      I'm white as the snow surrounding this building and I've been searched in at least one airport every time I've flown for the last two years.

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    9. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      My dad is an immigrant, but thats the only thing wierd about me.


      funny you talk like that. how would it be wierd? does it qualify US of A as a nation of wierdos?

    10. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by jafac · · Score: 2, Informative

      If GWBush could fly one. . . then I seriously doubt your assertion that "anyone allowed to fly a jet is a highly trained and very disciplined individual."

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    11. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by jafac · · Score: 1

      It's not like these guys are taking off with 200 passengers, flying a relatively straight and level path to a civillian airport, and setting down.

      These guys are training, flying low and fast, doing high-speed maneuvers, pushing themselves and their equipment to, and sometimes past the limits.

      It's no suprise to me that they crash once in a while.

      I went to high school with a woman who crashed her A-10 in Arizona about 5 years ago. She was flying at low altitude, at night, with Night Vision equipment. I have no doubt that she was a top-notch pilot, her record spoke for itself. It was a very difficult set of conditions, and the fact that she crashed, in my mind, in no way reflects on her capabilities as a pilot, or the US Military's overall quality regarding pilots and training in general.

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    12. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Gaijin42 · · Score: 1

      Well, obviously we are a nation largly comprised of immigrants, but most people have had their families been in the country for several generations. Its concivable that my father has allegances to foreign powers, and has instilled those alleigences in me as well.

    13. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      No, it was a serious comment, so I have no idea why it was marked as a 'Troll'. Given the choice between a woman on the plane with a weird jacket, and a guy I've never met flying alongside with heat-seeking missiles ready to shoot me down at the slightest twitch, I'd take the risk with the jacket, thanks.

      I mean, even if they were a terrorist with a bomb in their jacket, what was the fighter escort supposed to do? Tell them 'don't you even think about blowing up that bomb, lady, or I'll shoot the plane down!'.

    14. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have a lot more respect for the pilots than I do the people on the ground who'd be telling them whether or not to shoot me down.

      However, that said, given the rate at which US pilots were killing British troops during the Gulf Wars, I don't have that much respect for them either.

    15. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Pyrrus · · Score: 1

      long hair maybe? I had a ponytail for several years. All four times
      I flew after sept 11 I was searched. After I cut my
      hair I've flown twice and not been searched at all.
      That has got to be one of the dumbest criteria for
      searching people.

    16. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Rasta+Prefect · · Score: 1
      long hair maybe? I had a ponytail for several years.

      Nope, clean cut all the way. Several times during the summer, so not even wearing my trenchcoat.

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    17. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by JCholewa · · Score: 1

      > I'm white as the snow surrounding this building and I've been searched in
      > at least one airport every time I've flown for the last two years.

      Maybe they don't trust albinos.

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    18. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by willtsmith · · Score: 1

      I can imagine Dubaya donning the jacket and then asking how to make it fly ;-)

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    19. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh huh, are you sure?

  60. Real geek test by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I get one with a built in tin-foil lined hood?

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  61. Nerds? by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 1

    How is this news for those pale skin, 'dew drinkin' parents-basement-livin' nerds? Most of us probably haven't seen the sun for several months - if not longer!
    ;)

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  62. Solar Power Rocks - website is down temporarily by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thanks for the post! The traffic from slashdot caused our website to crash. Please bear with us.

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  63. Upgrade your jacket idea. by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about a baseball cap with a solar brim? Plug it into your jacket for added solar surface area (more watts). Whats better, in places like Texas where I live you don't wear a jacket but a few months out of the year, but a cap can be worn year round. Use it as a stand alone device. In the Western part of the state a cap brim would pull in more juice than a jacket cap combo in lot of places. Just sounds like the natural next step to me.

    No. Even though I'm a Texan I don't thing a solar Stetson would sell. Well, maybe a few....

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    1. Re:Upgrade your jacket idea. by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      Scott, I agree with this post. If the brim had enough surface area to be able to charge something it would be fantastic on its own.

      I purchased one of the SCOTTeVEST hats as well, I wore it, but I wasn't entirely satisfied with the fit. It didn't hug my head tightly enough and tended to be very easy to blow off. It was very nicely constructed though. Unfortunately, I managed to lose it in a restaurant. :/

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    2. Re:Upgrade your jacket idea. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      A solar-brim baseball cap? That's going to make you look like a number one jackass, like one of those pricks in a plastic pith helmet with a solar panel and a little fan. I was thinking along these lines (solar hat) and the only thing I could come up with was a fedora entirely covered in flexible solar panels. You would still look like a moron, but at least you'd look like you wanted to have style.

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  64. Backpack/Carrying Case by SuchiRu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a good idea, but I beleve it is implimented in the wrong way. People are not going to buy jackets that have this. Why not put this technology/idea into a backpack? You could place the solar panels on the sholders on the backpack, or even a sort of side bag that has become so popular. Woul this not be a more appealing idea? Personally I would buy a backpack that had this feature. My laptop always needs those good ol' rays of cancer.*gigle*

  65. One problem with this. by Orclover · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are assuming we go out into the sunshine, hell i spend my entire work day in a windowless closet of a server room with the light out to keep the heat down.

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  66. cool new geek gadget by rjelks · · Score: 1

    Wow, this jacket looks awesome. I bet it's a real chick magnet too.

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    1. Re:cool new geek gadget by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      I bet it's a real chick magnet too.

      Only if you can find some ferromagnetic poultry and you turn the current up very high to boost the field.

      (Am I the only one who thiks this thing is UGLY. Not goging to tempt me away from my leather jacket with half a shell suit)

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  67. On the other hand... by mangu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...who wears a jacket on a sunny day?

    1. Re:On the other hand... by Stingr · · Score: 1

      Sunny does not always equal hot.

      I'm staring out the window right now and it's a beautiful sunny day but weather.com reports the temperature at 28 degrees Fahrenheit (Feels like 21 degrees Fahrenheit).

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    2. Re:On the other hand... by secondsun · · Score: 1

      People in New York for one. 10 degrees, feels like 2 and partly cloudy. Here in Atlanta it is frequently sunny during the winter month, but rather chilly for those who live here. Hell I would buy the jacket if their site were up.

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    3. Re:On the other hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sunny" in the wintertime just means clear skys. The sun is still coming in at a pretty significant angle even at noontime - meaning the intensity is quite diminished from a bright summer day.

  68. Yes but... by restive · · Score: 1

    does it recharge under fluorescent lighting???!!!

  69. Re:Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Does anyone else see a fundamental flaw in the assumptions about the potential market?

    Also, remind you of the suit George Jeton wore through all kinds of punishment when he thought he was going to die, then his wife washed it instead of dry cleaning, destroying it before it could get the Goodspacekeeping Seal?

    Me neither... gimme!

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  70. Airports by Remlik · · Score: 1

    Someone already joked about getting it through security...I think it would be near impossible.

    Recently there was a woman wearing a leather motorcycle jacket with a built in heating system that connects to the bike via wires...these wires were hanging out of the jacket..all of a sudden we have a terroist situation...a plane delayed awhile and this woman was accosted...Sorry, thats not making me safer, some hunyuk terrorist wanting to take down a plane is going to be smart enough to make sure no WIRES are hanging out of his bomb laden jacket....Good lord

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  71. Re:I know your wrong by Revek · · Score: 3, Informative

    I came across some cells from the late 70's and they still produce electricity. Compare that with the production cost of a rechargeable battery or an alkaline and I am sure you will see that over the lifetime of the solar cell (which has yet to be determined) they end up costing next to nothing in comparison.

  72. ObSimpsons by sharkey · · Score: 1

    Solar Power. When will people learn. *shakes head*

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  73. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trevor baylis (the wind-up radio guy) did this

    see this link

  74. Great for a halloween costume idea... by Saltine+Cracker · · Score: 1

    Now we can all pretend to be satellites on halloween.

    1. Re:Great for a halloween costume idea... by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      You laugh but this past halloween, I went to a costume party as a "music pirate".

      I had just the fleece vest stuffed full with everything media related I could think of. My Dension MP3 player, Treo 600, USB Memory stick, a bunch of DVD-Rs, MP3 CDs, and my wifes mini-disc player.. I ended up with almost a terrabyte of storage space. :)

      I printed out a little Napster logo and wore it around my neck.. Goofy, but the best part was, I could take the vest off and not have to suffer through wearing a stuffy costume all evening.. :)

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    2. Re:Great for a halloween costume idea... by tepples · · Score: 1

      I went to a costume party as a "music pirate".

      Where was your USB flash eyepatch?

    3. Re:Great for a halloween costume idea... by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      I didn't want to wear it in public because it was a shocking eye-sore. ;)

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  75. time to reboot the jacket by liquidsin · · Score: 1

    Yeah, give this poor guy some time to dig the web-serving Palm Pilot out of his solar-powered pockets and reboot it...

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  76. Whoa... by mgcsinc · · Score: 1

    "... features including 42 hidden pockets that can be wired together through the jacket lining."

    I don't know, but something tells me this jacket seriously wouldn't go down too well in an airport. In this world where almanacs are the work of the devil, lets just say such a jacket might get some odd looks...

    1. Re:Whoa... by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      I have had no problems with it. It actually makes the security checkpoint very convenient. I just stick it in a bucket and send it through the x-ray machine. All I have to worry about is remembering to take off my watch.

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    2. Re:Whoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you really _that_ think and humorless! Obviously, parent is referring to the fact that the pockets are wired together and hidden!

  77. What woud make this perfect by Cy+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would be for the jacket to also accept firewire, USB 2.0 and bluetooth connections from the gadgets then act as a WiFi router back to your computer and/or the Internet. Now that would be sweet.

    Walk by an open Access Point and suddenly you get updated for your email, the latest RSS feed from SlashDot, the MP3 tracks from that CD your friend just baought and ripped, etc.

    1. Re:What woud make this perfect by inu4227 · · Score: 1
      Walk by an open Access Point and suddenly you get updated for your email, the latest RSS feed from SlashDot, the MP3 tracks from that CD your friend just baought and ripped, etc.
      I would also appreciate the possibility of getting my jacket automatically 0wn3d every 50 meters.
  78. Where's the most important pocket? by sremack · · Score: 0, Troll

    I didn't see any mention of a pocket for my penis.

  79. A reason to go outside... by PSaltyDS · · Score: 3, Funny

    For you /. types who need a reason to go outdoors, hook your solar-jacket up to one of these, and you'll never go back inside again!

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    1. Re:A reason to go outside... by VoidVector · · Score: 1

      wow, speaking of chick magnet, this will be to real combo

  80. Britney Charges My Gadget! by GnoMoreGnuPuns · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Haha she's got a cah-BOOSE!

  81. Cold *and* Sunny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey kid - it's 90F outside - why are you wearing that jcacket? This jacket clearly has you covered if you live in high lattitude countries which are cold enough for a jacket, yet sunny enough for solar cells...

  82. How will this affect air travel? by Thrymm · · Score: 1

    Will security keep you longer than normal cause of wires from the panels going throughout the jacket?

  83. Slashdotted... by lonb · · Score: 1

    I assume that Scottevest's web servers are running on solar power, cause they are only slightly delivering content! Poor bastards.

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  84. Full Press Release by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the full Press Release see: http://www.scottevest.com/htmlemail/icp_release/in dex.html However, due to all the traffic, I think our server is down temporarily. We are working on it! Scott Jordan

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    1. Re:Full Press Release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now that's funny! The president of the company in the article karma whoring on slashdot.

      dat's a gud vun!




      (no offence Scott, I just thought that was funny)

  85. Durability? by Elvii · · Score: 1

    Saw one post on here that said it's not too tough, and website is dead. So my question is while it'd be nice to have this type jacket for extended (2 days+) outdoor use, is it tough enough to survive that? If so, great for keeping a cell phone or portable radio charged for emergencies. If not, seems worthless as most devices will go about 8 hours or more w/o charge and most people get to outlets within that time...

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    1. Re:Durability? by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      Don't know anything about the solar add-on, but I own a 3.0 and I feel it is very durable. Being waterproof helps in the stain department too. :)

      I had a problem with the draw strings on the hood when I first got it, but they sent me a replacement hood that has worked just fine..

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  86. Slashdot : The Wired & Register Clipping Servi by slyborg · · Score: 1

    Lately, I find that if I browse Wired, The Register, and Anandtech, I get 80% of /. content, only several days sooner.

    I'm starting to miss Katz....

  87. won't be appearing on supermodels soon... by ZipR · · Score: 1

    and Could I plug this in to keep my joy buzzer fully charged?

  88. This is like green cows by earplug · · Score: 1

    How does this make us any different from a brown cow that has been genetically hacked to be green and provide its own food via photosynthesis? :)

  89. Time to add another jacket? by camusflage · · Score: 1

    With all the added power requirements, maybe another jacket should be added to the server farm?

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  90. Re:read it again by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    the wired article sez 100 more than 200

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  91. Mom, I can't put my arms down! by lcsjk · · Score: 1

    The subject line says it all! With 120 pounds of gadgets and 27 cables, my hiking trip is only 30 feet!

  92. Now all we need is... by Karem+Lore · · Score: 1
    A wireless power supply...
    Remove the need to spend half an hour putting your jacket on and connecting all the cables...

    Karem

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  93. Re:read it again by MindStalker · · Score: 1

    No the parent-parent poster talked about $2000 dollars worth of stuff in your pockets, as being excessive. And the parent post said that is just a laptop and an ipod. Though personally I doupt a laptop would fit into this, though as I havn't seen a picture, maybe I'm wrong.

  94. Bad karma vibes comeing from this guy by DiveX · · Score: 1
    Take a look at this guys posting history.


    http://slashdot.org/~Scott%20Jordan


    Nothing but posts supporting his product. I just get bad vibes from this product/guy for some reason, and this post somewhat confirmed what I was thinking: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=92802&cid=7973 109


    Get a jacket from the local surplus store and be done with it.

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    1. Re:Bad karma vibes comeing from this guy by ahrenritter · · Score: 1

      He's got a family-owned nitch business, and he is a tech-nut. I don't see *anything* wrong with his only postings on Slashdot being about his products.

      I'm curious, when you looked at his posting history, were there only six entries? I looked at all of them and didn't see anything that I could objectively think of giving reason for bad vibes...

      I replied to the other comment you linked. Don't know the details, but you always have to consider the bad marks against the good. I've never had any trouble with him or his company.

      You should obviously get a jacket that you like. If the one you like is at the surplus store or Walmart, then you are in luck. I wanted a jacket with a lot of pockets for my toys, and I love the one I got from SCOTTeVEST (although all the capitals in the name irks me sometimes. ;)

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    2. Re:Bad karma vibes comeing from this guy by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Interesting
      He's got a family-owned nitch business, and he is a tech-nut. I don't see *anything* wrong with his only postings on Slashdot being about his products.

      I agree. How many folk have things in their sigs linking to products or OSS project they have worked on? Quite a lot. Or, how many "sorry for OUR server melting" posts are there...?

      Provided is isn't a "First post, buy the jacket" type of person with nothing to contribute other than noise, then it's not a bad thing. Everyone wants to plug their shit...

  95. A move in the right direction... by MissMarvel · · Score: 1

    This jacket sounds like it has some quality issues, but I like the idea of the small solar panels. I observe with a fellow who uses a mini solar panel to recharge the battery on his telescope drive system. It works great and, from what I understand, it didn't cost that much to setup... around $500.

  96. That's so unfair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had one of these for a year in high school and everyone thought it was just stupid. :(

  97. Yeah, but will it ... by Devlin-du-GEnie · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... capture and purify my perspiration so that I can survive in a hyper-arid desert environment?

    Think bigger, ScottEVest.

  98. Re:Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In addition to the paradox of geeks in the sunlight, Does anyone see the fundamental flaw in that you have to go out into the sunslight wearing a *jacket*?

    (In florida, it doesnt get cold enough to wear a jacket, and in the sun you would cook yourself alive in under 5 minutes)

  99. Check background by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    and a person's posting history... Scott Jordan has posted about six comments, virtually all of which promote, or have to do with, his product/company.

    Not to run down a CEO who reads slashdot... that alone certainly puts him in a tiny minority... but he's far from a regular slashdot contributer... see for yourself.

    Scott Jordan's posting history

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    1. Re:Check background by ryanwright · · Score: 1

      Not to run down a CEO who reads slashdot... that alone certainly puts him in a tiny minority... but he's far from a regular slashdot contributer...

      Right, because as CEO of his own company, he has nothing better to do than contribute to Slashdot on a daily basis.

      Hey, he reads, and he answers questions. That's 100 times more effort than most CEOs put in. I give him a big thumbs up. Next jacket I need, this company gets serious consideration.

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  100. I don't know by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    that I'd blackball the man yet... his account appears to be at least year old or so (at least it wasn't created by some troll 5 minutes ago).

    But your point is well-taken... he may read slashdot, but it doesn't look like his posts have contributed much more than a few plugs for his product.

    I concur with your call for caution.

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    1. Re:I don't know by ryanwright · · Score: 1

      Again, this is just ridiculous. So what if he promotes his product? Does that immediately make him a bad person? He's got a company to run, and he's not blatently spamming Slashdot.

      To you call for caution with any company where the CEO isn't an active Slashdot contributor?

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  101. technophile environmentalist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seemingly aimed at the technophile environmentalist on the go...

    Technophile and environmentalist seem mutually exclusive to me. How can you claim to be an environmentalist while using a bunch of gadgets that are full of toxic materials, and non-toxic materials that have toxic by-products? I think the energy you save by having a solar jacket is nothing compared to the amount of environment that has been destroyed by the equipment you are charging up.

  102. Someone already said it by The+Tyro · · Score: 2, Informative

    but I might recommend a variant on the Army/Navy store tac vest... a photographer's vest.

    You wouldn't believe how many pockets, clasps, D-rings, etc come on one of those.

    I have one... love it.

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  103. mobile wireless by rvr · · Score: 1

    I can see 4 guys going up a ski lift, wired together as a mini lan playing doom3 or listening to mp3s. I see them skiing down the slope implementing a wireless and having some kind of spy like hunt and destroy game. I can see gps being used to locate them when an avalanche gets them. The only problem I see skiing are are trees.

  104. Can you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these?

  105. Mandatory "Flightsuits" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There actually existed a crazy TSA proposal that all airline passengers would have been required to strip naked and put on (at the passengers' expense, of course) flimsy tight-fitting sci-fi looking spandex jumpsuits with no pockets and with little booties sewn into the feet like childrens pajamas, in order to be allowed to board airliners, so there would be no way to conceal weapons or bombs on their persons. Their normal clothing they wore to the airport would be packed into containers and sent along with the checked baggage in the cargo hold, and they could change back into their street clothes once they got to their destination airport.

    Good looking chicks would look fine in these jumpsuits, but most folks would look mighty scary. I don't think most would want to see me in one, as I guarantee I would likely have a constant erection showing thru for the duration of the whole flight if I had to wear a flimsy spandex jumpsuit in public with nothing underneath, especially if there were any good looking chicks on the flight wearing them also.

    1. Re:Mandatory "Flightsuits" by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'd vote for that one :).

  106. Re:read it again by torpor · · Score: 1

    You could put a small laptop in the back pocket (in the small of your back), but then you'd sit on it all the time.

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  107. I don't get this by pclminion · · Score: 1
    Here's what I don't get:

    "Hey look! The sun's coming out, it's starting to warm up! Why, it's so nice out I think I'll take off my jacket!"

  108. Re:Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by Lugor · · Score: 1

    I resent that! My flouresent lights can charge my gadgets as well as the so-called "sun". In fact my favorite gadget, my precious pocket calculator, is solar polared!

  109. too hot by zojas · · Score: 1

    let's see, I need to wear this jacket while standing in the nice, bright, hot sun, sounds kind of dumb to me. course I live in Arizona where standing in the sun is a good way to die. :)

  110. Re:You have two options for charge using that jack by will · · Score: 1

    Do I correctly understand that you don't want a solar-powered jacket-charger because going outside will give you wrinkles? And that you would consider hanging the jacket outside with all your gadgetry in it, but have decided against it because the jacket might be bleached by the sun?

    It is possible that you are not the target market for this garment.

  111. hmmm... by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    My grasp of English was far more worser than it is now

    Heh... well, OK... at least you're trying.

    My primary point with the original poster is that he might want to avoid looking like a dunce in the same post where he trumpets his intellect. I don't have a problem with Mensa folks... but boasting about your membership is generally considered crass and obnoxious.

    Far be it from me to discourage someone from picking up a second (or third, or fourth) language... but if english is not his native tongue, he might consider writing his self-aggrandizing Mensa sig in the language where he (presumably) has mastery, or leaving it off entirely. If not, he runs the risk of native english-speaking bozos like me chuckling over it. I speak a some german and spanish... but I'd never presume to brag about my intelligence in those languages... the native speakers wouldn't be able to stop laughing long enough to correct my grammar.

    Just a thought.

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  112. licensing the solar system by bservo · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    ...said Sass Peress, CEO of ICP Solar Technologies, which licensed the solar system from GSE Technologies and is partnering with ScotteVest to create the solar jackets.

    Who do I contact if I want to license the rest of the universe?

  113. Re:read it again by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    oops.

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  114. this guy has been trolling this vest for years by avi33 · · Score: 0, Troll

    This guy has been pushing this idea for years in Chicago, though I think he recently moved operations somewhere to save on 'expenses.'

    Granted, this is all my opinion, but it really speaks volumes on the state of tech innovation in Chicago.
    Guy (lawyer maybe?) wants to be a tech entrepeneur and make buckets of money. Comes up with half decent idea, using connections and VCs desperate inability to turn down deals in 1999, gets funding. I have to say, back in the day when a phone/pda didn't do all this stuff, I was intrigued. For about a second, until I realized that for $300+ I could buy my own vest and wire it however I wanted. Then it reminded me of this vest I saw in 1984, which was /soooo/ cool because it had a walkman-shaped pocket (and a matching headphone-shaped one too) on the outside with a hole for your headphone wires. (The walkman pocket was the size of a paperback dictionary, but that's another story). Anyway, the thing was over a hundred bucks, which was just laughable. Anyway, that's what I thought of when I saw the original eVest.

    The problem is, he doesn't want to make a couple of handcrafted products, he wants to sell millions, and have them in Sharper Image, Harrington's, etc. He has succeeded in getting PR in Wired and NT Times, no small feat, if you consider this idea is getting stale, and most geeks I know want to carry /less/ stuff these days.

    In order to get anyone to keep noticing it, it had to become the uber-vest. 42 pockets? For $300-400. Are you f&%)ing kidding me? You can get a cheaper/nicer vest for flyfishing or photographers, and load it up all you want.

    Like I said, a sad state on the 'lemme in on the tech cash' mentality of innovation in Chicago in the last few years. IMO, of course. Probably I am most annoyed at his inability to just produce a product without trying to make it a billion dollar home run. I'm surprised he's still getting PR on this nonsense.

    1. Re:this guy has been trolling this vest for years by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are completely wrong on almost all your "facts" and assertions. Just to name a few: We have no VC funding. The product is priced right. Try to find any similar products with less features for anything less. Fisherman vests cost about $100 and look ugly. Of course I would like to hit a home run. Who wouldn't? I suppose when you step up to bat you are satisfied striking out??? Good luck to you in all your endeavors. Perhaps the media knows something that you don't. Scott Jordan, CES SCOTTeVEST LLC

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    2. Re:this guy has been trolling this vest for years by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 1

      PS: Move to Sun Valley, Idaho was never to "save on expenses". You are fast and loose on all facts. Where do you get this information???

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    3. Re:this guy has been trolling this vest for years by avi33 · · Score: 1

      I made a few guesses where I see them. I haven't done a lot of homework on the subject, just seen it here and there and it just struck me as a 1998 idea that hasn't gotten around to dying yet.

      Good luck, I just personally think that while there may not be 'similar products for anything less' I question whether there's a market for such a thing. Maybe the media is right, but then again, the media doesn't buy them. If there is, someone will come along and make them cheaper, with fewer features, perhaps.

      MINI has launched their own line of accessories, one of them being a jacket with a see-through map panel, and it comes with a couple of custom-shaped maps of major cities. Cool, yes. Usefulness, limited. The problem is, the jacket costs $675. If it's a cool feature and competitors notice it, it will be out at target next year for $99. That's what I see as the problem here. You may have a few cool ideas rolled together, but you can't patent 'pockets.'

      Who knows, maybe you can these days...

  115. Not a true geek jacket... by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1

    ...because it assumes the user will actually go outside in the sun.

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  116. this is all fine & dandy... by decepty · · Score: 1
    ...with the "pocket hole conduit", etc. but how do you actually plug things in?

    I can just see it now... "Is that a power strip in your pocket...?"

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  117. Yes but will I be able to use it to ..... by StressGuy · · Score: 1

    recharge by OQO ultra-portable?

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  118. Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This assumes that if there is enough sun out to power the jacket that I will still be wearing it...

  119. Re:You have two options for charge using that jack by Via_Patrino · · Score: 1

    Do I correctly understand that you don't want a solar-powered jacket-charger because going outside will give you wrinkles?

    Not going outside but staring in the sun to charge your devices.
    It may give you wrinkles you're used to think because it reduces elasticity of the skin, but the major problem is that it kind broke your skin.
    In a tropical country near Antartica (where all CFC gas go to broke the ozone layer) we see that a lot, even with people on their 30's.
    It also give you freckles and dark dots, i often swin on the outside, i take care but still have some of it, i know what i'm talking about.

    And there is also cancer that damages genes of few cells now and will show it's results just ten or 20 years later, when the damage was already done.

    And that you would consider hanging the jacket outside with all your gadgetry
    No i was just saying that the jacket is pretty useless after it's appearence is damaged because of excessive sun expose

  120. I'll bite... by jejones · · Score: 1

    How long does it take to recharge a cell phone, or a PDA? Are you willing to stand outside in summer in a jacket to get your gadgets recharged?

  121. security nightmare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't get anywhere near an airport or other security area. The poor lady who had a heated jacket had a bad enough time, can you imagine explaining 42 different devices plus wiring?

  122. Re:Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

    What's really shameful is that the screen on my Casio PDA isn't sunlight viewable. So I'll have to be constantly ducking in and out of archways... duck out, charge up for a few minutes, then dart back inside to read some more exciting ebooks on the ease and simplicity of our digital lifestyle...

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  123. retarded by greywire · · Score: 1

    I may be a geek, and I may like the idea of a jacket with lots of pockets for my toys, but I dont really want to be a walking target that screams "I'm a first class dork".

    Can't we have something like this but in the form of a leather trenchcoat? Hmm, maybe I will Mod my coat. Why not? People do case mods and such, why not "hack" and "mod" your clothing?

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  124. Subway? by tepples · · Score: 1

    It doesn't take into account the needs of ... subway operators

    What does this have to do with Jared?

  125. What about Rain? by billstewart · · Score: 1

    OK, maybe you don't wear your solar-powered jacket on rainy days, but how does this overly-electrical thing deal with getting rained on? Is it washable?

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  126. Re:Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by JustAnotherReader · · Score: 1
    Does anyone else see a fundamental flaw in the assumptions about the potential market? Geeks, Sunlight?

    And for sure it needs to come in XXXLg sizes.

  127. Re:Mandatory Spandex Flight Jumpsuits by MrBlint · · Score: 0
    The 1970's just called - they want their vocabulary back

    "Chicks" indeed!

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  128. Heavy Jacket +Sunlight by euxneks · · Score: 1

    Heavy Jacket+ Sunlight = Lots of sweaty geeks.

    Doesn't anyone else think they should make a smaller, lighter version, and judging from the responses here, made by a different company? I think a nice vest with solar power and one or two power connectors would do fine for a lot of people... I mean, honestly, how many gadgets do you carry around with you all the time?

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  129. unibattery by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    I'd settle for just a single battery that recharges all of my mobile devices. Charging the unibattery with a solar jacket (plus a wallplug) is a nice bonus.

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  130. I've Always Wondered... by Flwyd · · Score: 1

    Would it be possible to design a coat which converted your radiated heat energy into enough electricity to recharge a mobile device?

    Maybe it could even use the kinetic energy of your arms.

    "Yes, Mr. Stone? Do you have a question?" "No, I'm just waving my arms so I can use my PDA."

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  131. In soviet Russia... by Nightreaver · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...you power your solar jacket

  132. Not such a 'cool' idea. by dnahelix · · Score: 1

    Oh, look, the Sun's out, let me put my coat on.

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  133. Better solar cloth on the horizon(?) by cryptochrome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just when Spheral Solar is finally working out the manufacturing angle. Their tech has the advantages of crystal cells but is flexible.

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  134. Flight by XiChimos · · Score: 0

    I will wear it on my flight to Cuba.

  135. Useless... by AceTHacker · · Score: 1

    Good idea but useless to those of us living the the greater Seattle area. Extended forecast for the next week in a single word..."rain".

    Any chance of a hydro-power option that utilizes rain?

    -ATH

  136. Counter point. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    Here's another less jackass looking idea. Use the same material they use in tan-through swim suites to cover the solar panel. A little less sunshine gets through, but it lowers the dork factor.

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  137. I don't see anything about solar power by joel2600 · · Score: 0

    I can't seem to find anything on their website concerning the use of solar cells embedded in the sleeves... All i can see is a jacket with a ton of pockets. Am I missing something?

  138. Ludicrous! by CowardNeal · · Score: 1

    .. like a Solar Powered Torch!

  139. Laptop power source by MagicDude · · Score: 1

    I always had an idea along these lines that perhaps a device could be made that fits into normal airplane windows and could turn solar energy into electricity to power laptops or recharge other devices. With planes flying above the cloudline, planes are awash with loads of sunlight. Plus with plenty of downtime on planes, it could be good for recharging phones and PDA's, espically since they can't be used on planes anyway.

  140. Errm... by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    You wear a jacket when it gets cooler. That's when it is raining, winter or at night. Pity the sun isn't shining very brightly.

    A solar Tshirt, bikini or whatever might be a far better idea.

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  141. As fashions change ... by danwiz · · Score: 1
    As fashions change ...

    We can convert our landfill areas into an alternative source of energy.

    We can clothe the homeless and they can plug into the grid at the end of the day to earn a few extra bucks.

    Or we can just give them to the geeks for hacking ... oh, wait! That's where they came from!

  142. Relax by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    I did NOT call Mr. Jordan a bad person... if you read my posts, I specifically stated that I would NOT blackball him.

    My caution is to those who would swoon over his company's products because the CEO has a slashdot account. In his half-dozen posts, he's simply plugging his product. Not that plugging your product is bad... this man clearly has a business to run, and I'm not an anti-corporate communist like some /. readers. If his product is good, the market will bear it out.

    However, the fact that he has a slashdot account shouldn't make anyone rush out and buy a jacket, particularly when his account has been very sparsely used, and almost entirely for advertising. I think my exhortation to exercise a little caution is reasonable, not ridiculous.

    His product may rock... but getting excited simply because the CEO reads slashdot? Heh... by that criteria, I'd still be using windows.

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  143. WarWalking? by The+Original+Atrox · · Score: 1

    "features including 42 hidden pockets that can be wired together through the jacket lining"

    Am I the only one who read this and thought 'automatic logging war-walking'... anystreet USA... GPS reciever, lappy in backpack... Solar to extend running hours... and just start walking... -all day-...

    Atrox

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  144. Consider this by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    Right, because as CEO of his own company, he has nothing better to do than contribute to Slashdot on a daily basis

    Nobody said anything about daily participation... but an account that's at least a year old, with only six posts, all of which plug his product?

    Next jacket I need, this company gets serious consideration

    Good for you... though for my own part, were I using slashdot as criteria for buying a product, I'd probably be more likely to buy from a guy with a longer posting history... but that's just me.

    Not that tr0lling slashdot makes you a better person... it might actually make you a worse person, depending on how you post. For instance, would you buy something from a GNAA troll? The Penis birdman? the Goatsex guy? A long posting history can give you a better feel for how a person thinks, believes, or reacts... If I were to use slashdot to help me make a decision about buying a product, I'd be more likely to buy from Bruce Perens than Sir Haxalot (never met either guy, but I must say Perens gets the nod, if I'm going on nothing but their posts).

    If the guy is trying to win over the geek community, he could start in a lot worse places than slashdot. However, geeks are pretty cynical, and notoriously suspicious of anything that smacks of marketing-speak. Here's a good example: how many times have you absolutely laughed out loud at those OSDN personals ads? C'mon... admit it... you see right through that stuff, just like 90+% of the Slashdot readership. I've never attempted to sell anything here (sales is not my line of work), but you'd be hard-pressed to find a tougher, more-cynical crowd... I'd think it would take serious geek cred to sell anything in this forum... and the only way to get that cred is to be

    1. tech elite

    2. famous/infamous

    3. build it up the hard way by posting early/insightfully/entertainingly/often.

    I give him a big thumbs up

    Well... I don't know about that... I'll give him a small thumbs up.

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  145. Definitive Energy analysis + Back of Envelope by WOV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. You're exactly right. This national laboratory study is generally considered definitive.

    2. Idiot Check:

    Bulk unsubsidized price of a 100 watt solar panel:

    $350

    Lifetime energy production:

    100W * 8 hours a day * 300 days per year * 25 years

    6,000,000 Wh (6000 kWh)

    Retail price of that electricity: $.10 / kWh

    $600

    Not a lot of profit margin for the manufacturer there is there?

    I'll confess that I am beginning to lose my patience with debunking this over and over again; it was true back in the 1950s-60s when solar power was an elaborately hand-assembled product, and before you techie people caused the silicon market to blow up so hugely. (Though these are probably CIGS instead of crystalline silicon.)

  146. Solar?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I live in Oregon you insensitive clod!

  147. True - but only for a given value of true by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting
    the solar cells weight the same as batteries
    This is absolutely correct, 1kg of solar cells weighs the same as 1kg of batteries.
    their production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime
    On the surface this may seem nonsensical - but if you consider a prototype solar cell, and all the work that has gone into producing that, the fuel costs associated with producing the wheat in the sandwitches the researchers had for lunch, making the cars they drive, and the the price of their childrens education - then it certainly takes a lot of energy to do all that. Once things go into production you have ecomonies of scale, which makes it entirely possible to have a cheap pocket calculator that runs on solar cells, instead of having to plug it into a power socket. The trick of adding in extra irrelevant costs, both economic and otherwise, is widespread and is described well in Bruce Sterlings book "The Hacker Crackdown" which can be read online. In that book it describes how the material written in a manual was listed in court documents as being worth the entire cost of the computer system it was typed up on, and the wages of several employees who also had other things to do, and not the few dollars it cost to order it through the mail. This solar energy argument has similar substance, but is correct if you go to silly extremes; after all, we wouldn't have solar cells without the industrial revolution, and that generated a lot of pollution.
  148. Patent Pending.... by sirwallyc · · Score: 0

    ....on the design of the epaulet on the jacket's shoulder. I bet noone has _ever_ thought of putting a strap of material on the shoulder of a jacket before.
    Maybe the fact that the epaulet is located a couple of inches further forward than it would normally be will be enough to grant the patent.

    See here