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Ask Green Party Presidential Candidate David Cobb

Today you have the opportunity to ask questions of the Green Party's candidate for President of the United States, David Cobb. Standard interview rules apply: we'll select a dozen or so of the best questions and Mr. Cobb will give us his answers next week.

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  1. Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by HackHackBoom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How do you respond to accusations from Democrats that a vote for your party is a vote for George Bush?

    In this world of political campaigning via direct attacks and dancing around the real issues, I am curious to know how you and your party have reacted to these attacks.

    Additionally, what is your party and personal stance towards using the very methods I'm mentioning as return fodder for the 2 large parties?

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    "It's not stealing if you don't get caught!"

    1. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe he's already on record as saying if you're in a swing state, vote Kerry. Because, even though he's not much better on some issues, Bush is a disaster. Heard this on NPR following Nader's failed bid to get on as the Green candidate

    2. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Wow, I'd love to hear his reasoning behind that.

      Perhaps he feels, like many of us, that Bush is the worst president in a very long time, and has to go. Kerry, for all of his flaws, can't help but do a better job.

    3. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
      > How do you respond to accusations from Democrats that a vote for your party is a vote for George Bush?

      For that matter, how do you respond to donations from Republicans :)

    4. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, the myth that a 3rd party vote is wasted needs to be dispelled. Reaching a certain percentage of voters for an office means that that party will be automatically carried to the ballot on the next election. From the top of my head, the percentage required varies from office to office (and possibly state to state), but 5% of the vote for the presidency gets your party relisted and access to receive public funding for the next election (see here).

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      If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
    5. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by strictfoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My question for all third party candidates: Why not change the party from the inside? That's what socialists did during the 50's and 60's with the Democrats. Why not do the same again? Libertarians: work to change the Republicans. Greens: work to change the dems.

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      I've just signed legislation that'll outlaw Russia forever. We'll begin bombing in five minutes.
    6. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by sp0rk173 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's basically replacing principal with pragmatism. The primary platform for greens is environmental forsight since they see that, despite all of our social quarrels and pissing contests (read: war), the environment is going to bite us in the ass if we continue the way we are. Looking at this ends, taking votes from Kerry is not a pragmatic means. Bush is a trainwreck when it comes to environmental, and thus social, sustainability. Kerry is much better in this aspect. It's going to be a close race, 4 more years of Bush will not make us a more sustainable nation and quite possibly may push us globally towards a more difficult environmental state to recover from. Make no mistake, though, environmental equillibrium will return. However depending on how far the pendulum is pushed will dictate how quickly and how violently that state returns. Just kind of how nature works. Sine fucntions abound.

    7. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by the+chao+goes+mu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But if a 3d party causes a major party to repeatedly lose, sometimes the 3d party can get its views incorporated into the major party's platform. (cf. Bull Moose Party and Republicans, William Jennings Bryant and Democrats)

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      Boys from the City. Not yet caught by the Whirlwind of Progress. Feed soda pop to the thirsty pigs.
    8. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by sp0rk173 · · Score: 2, Informative

      To expand on the parent's other child, the platform of the green party has always been grass roots. They focus more on local and state seats than national seats, and that goes with their central idea that local government more efficiently solves many problems. They're focusing on working into the US political system from the ground up, much like they did in europe. Greens are a major player in europe now. Unfortunately it simply takes longer when you have a non-representative, "winner takes all" system of government. For the knee-jerkers, sure, it might perpetuate the myth that a third party vote is wasted, but when you look at the increasing numbers of greens in state and local government over the past couple of decades, you see that that just isn't true. There are greens in office, and they are making a difference. Small steps, man. Small steps.

    9. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by sp0rk173 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which is the long-term, nationalized goal of the Green Party. Kind of a smack in the face for Dem's to wake up. Unfortunatley in this race, Greens think too much is at stake if Kerry loses.

    10. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More specifically, how do you feel about the electoral college system, which is the underlying cause of only having two parties?

      Would you favor a voting system that makes it easy for a new party to spring up?

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    11. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit.

      When the votes start getting tallied up, and 3rd parties or independants are getting 30, 40, 50+ percent of the vote, that sends a LOUD AND CLEAR message.

      The message, is this: "You are president by purely a game of numbers, the majority of the citizens are sick of your policies and want change."

      3rd party votes count, they've always counted. They scared the 2 major parties so much that they've twisted and warped the system to include 3rd parties as much as possible. Why? They're scared of them.

      There've been plenty of 3rd party/independant congressmen, senators and governors. But when presidential elections come around, all of a sudden people tell you 3rd party votes are wasted?

      Bah. The lesser of two evils still sucks. If you vote for Kerry, you send the message that you approve of Kerry and his positions, regardless of the fact that you merely voted because you don't like Bush.

      Whore your vote out if you want, I vote for who I want to see run the country, not for who I don't.

      I'm tired of "which of these two is less of an asshole" elections.

      Kerry won't change anything Bush has done, and you're a fool to think he will. Reps and Dems are the same for all intents and purposes.

      --
      I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
    12. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting thought. Let me see if I can tap the essence without harming it too badly:
      Could we alter the political party landscape (which, IIRC, has no mention in the Constitution) towards a parliamentary-style arrangement (repeat: darn little of the apparatus currently used actually exists within the Constitution).
      What would we require for such, and what, besides consciousness and intellect, would be required of the electorate to implement substantial change?

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      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    13. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by The+Almighty+Dave · · Score: 2, Insightful
      In every election the stakes are high. Every election is too important to "waste" your vote on a third party candidate.

      Bullshit. If people want to vote for a third party candidate, they should just do it.

    14. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 4, Informative
      How do you respond to accusations from Democrats that a vote for your party is a vote for George Bush?

      He supports instant runoff voting. I prefer approval voting myself, since it's a bit simpler, but almost anything would be better than plurality voting.

      -jim

    15. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by caseydk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most people don't realize that in the 2000 elections, for nearly every state Gore lost to Bush because of Nader, Bush lost one to Gore because of Buchanon.

      Third parties due make a difference... if major party A gets 45% of the vote, major party B gets 42% of the vote, and minor party C - which is most like B - gets 5% of the vote, there's going to be a shift.

      Nader caused the shakeup for the Dems in 2000, but Perot did it for the Reps in 1992. It cuts both ways.

    16. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Golias · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I believe he's already on record as saying if you're in a swing state, vote Kerry. Because, even though he's not much better on some issues, Bush is a disaster. Heard this on NPR following Nader's failed bid to get on as the Green candidate

      If that's his opinion, then he's not running to win, in which case, he's not a real candidate at all, and just using the pretense of "running for president" to stand on a slightly taller soapbox while speaking about his ideas.

      He has that right, but I see no reason at all why I should pay any more attention to this guy than any other spokesman of progressive/liberal issues.

      When Ross Perot ran for president, he was running for president. He was actually gaining enough ground to look like he had a real shot at it, too, until he let a little too much "crazy talk" enter into his rhetoric.

      When Jesse Ventura ran for governor of Minnesota, he ran to win, and did so.

      These are examples of real third-party candidates. They actually wanted to hold the offices they were seeking.

      Anybody who says "don't vote for me" to the people of certain states is not a real candidate, and so I'm not even going to bother to submit a question, because I have no plans to read his answers when they are published in a few days.

      He's not running for president. He's pretending to run for the sake of the attention. I say, let's not give it to him.

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    17. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by killjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People who vote for third party candidates are people who don't give a shit who will run the country. No this party will win this election so only vote for them if you don't give a shit about how the country is run or who is running it.

      "Reps and Dems are the same for all intents and purposes."

      I think the last election proved once and for all just exactly how misguided and wrong this sentiment is. There is a profound difference between Bush and Kerry, if you can't see it then you are blind.

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      evil is as evil does
    18. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by sp0rk173 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So...whats wrong with everyong being able to get health care without going into debt, whats wrong with linking the environment? And I wouldn't say "Plain old greens" are PETA-members. I've never seen the green party endorse PETA, endorse a national, vegan meal plan, or say that it's wrong to perform socially valuable experiments on animals (anti-cancer treatment, malaria treatment, etc). Are you just generalizing out of ignorance/dogma?

    19. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...can't help but do a better job

      Don't challenge him.

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      Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
    20. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by stromthurman · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Despite a couple replies you've gotten to this, I would like to say I do agree with you.
      I feel there are three reasons why I will "waste my vote" on a third party this November, even though I live in a swing state this year (Pennsylvania.)
      1. I'm not going to vote for Kerry because even though I don't like Bush, I don't like Kerry either. If the Democrats really want my vote, provide me with a better offer.
      2. The fight to keep Nader off of the Florida ballot, and then the badmouthing that ensued when the courts finally said Nader could be on it really bothers me. How is it that when one group oppresses another to get their way it's bad, but when a different group oppresses another, it's somehow ok?
      3. It is precisely the policy of voting for the lesser of two evils that keeps us in a 2 party system. Other countries do have multiple active parties, it is not an impossibility.
      4. And finally, the most important point, I want to vote for someone I actually support. Being accused of "stealing a vote" from Kerry by voting third party is akin to the RIAA's talks of theft. If I don't vote for a third party, there's no guarantee I would've voted at all. In fact, if I don't/can't vote for a third party, I probably will note vote. So, either way, that vote for Kerry is lost.
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    21. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by EpsCylonB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whore your vote out if you want, I vote for who I want to see run the country, not for who I don't.

      You are very misguided.

      "Democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the rest" - can't remember who said it

      The power of democracy is not in voting people in, its in voting people out. Given enough time even the most honest man will be corrupted by power or screwup in some other way. Then its time to vote in the people that have learnt from the previous governments mistake.

      It doesn't really matter exactly who gets in power and when, all that matters is that we keep changing our government regularly, pushing politicians to work for their people whatever party they ascribe to.

      Democracy is as much of a negative process as a positive one.

    22. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by kwiqsilver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People who vote for third party candidates are people who don't give a shit who will run the country.

      I'll vote Third Party (Michael Badnarik of the Libertarian Party), because I do give a shit about who will run this country. As Mr. Badnarik said when he answered /. questions recently, John Kerry still favors deficit spending, a US military presence in Iraq (and 100+ other nations around the world), corporate subsidies, high taxes, the patriot act, the dmca, and all of the other things I dislike Bush for.
      The difference between these two influence peddling career politicians is not significant enough for many of us to distinguish between them. If you can't see that, then you are the blind one.
      I'll agree that Kerry is the lesser of two evils, mostly due to the fact that a Republican Congress will oppose many of his ideas, but as Mr. Badnarik pointed out: if you vote for the lesser of two evils, you're still voting for evil.

    23. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Madcapjack · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I think that the feeling that "Reps and Dems are the same for all intents and purposes" is not meant to imply a logical equivalence between Republicans and Democrats. Therefore the argument that Bush and Kerry are different, and that Bush is a Republican and Kerry is a Democrat, therefore Republicans and Democrats are not the same, is not valid. Bush can be worse than Kerry without the Republicans being worse than the Democrats, and vice versa

      Similarly, these are also invalid arguments: some americans murder, therefore americans are murderers. Or, some american soldiers torture prisoners, therefore all americans are torturers of prisoners. Some Republicans are reactionary flat-earthers, therefore all Republicans are reactionary flat-earthers. Some Republicans are not like Democrats, therefore no Republicans are like Democrats, or Republicans are not like Democrats. These of course are not valid arguements.

      I think what is meant is that for the most part, is that most party members of either party do similar things political things, and hold similar political stances.

      As for there being a difference between Kerry and Bush, I agree. But if Bush happened to be a conservative Democrat, and Kerry a liberal republican, how much would this change?

    24. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by neurojab · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >Um, there's a whole Libertarian wing of the Republican party..

      I'd consider that if it didn't mean I have to vote for Dubya. As it stands, my personal fiscally conservative, socially liberal, world-aware agenda fits much better with Kerry than with Dubya. Perhaps if the Republicans put forth a candidate that was less of a radical on the international front, wasn't trying to write discrimination into the constitution, was making an effort to keep the deficit under control AND made every right to uphold civil liberties at home, they could attract a lot of folks like me. As it stands, however, I'm voting for Kerry, mostly because as a different person, he can put in a different administration,and start cleaning up the mess left by this one. If that makes me a Democrat, I'll be one for this election. After that, we'll see.

    25. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by wass · · Score: 2, Insightful
      In every election the stakes are high.

      Not this time, where several Supreme Court judges, as well as a large number of other judiciary judges, are on the verge of retiring. If Bush is re-elected he might be able to appoint 3 new Chief Justices of the Supreme Court. That's one hell of a legacy, even if Green Party candidates are elected for the next 5 presidential terms.

      Another term of Bush could also very well mean a few more invasions to deal with in 2008, he's already threatened Iran, Syria, and North Korea, who knows how many more quagmires he'll create.

      I voted Nader in 2000 (I wasn't in a swing state), but I'm voting Kerry this time around. I realize there's a time to be idealistic, and a time to face reality and be practical.

      Bush has wreaked too much havoc on the planet and our country to risk electing him again, IMHO. Of course Kerry's not perfect, but he's a damn better choice. Even many ultra-liberals are voting Kerry because, as they say, "When the house is on fire, you don't talk about remodeling the kitchen. You put out the fire first."

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      make world, not war

    26. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by wtrmute · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Siderurgy is high energy consumption. Software development isn't. Neither is most social or biological research, including there high-end genetic, pharmaceutical and medical research. There's no actual excuse not to sign the Kyoto protocol, even because efficient energy use is high tech and a very, very profitable industry.

    27. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by fbg111 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People who vote for third party candidates are people who don't give a shit who will run the country.

      No, people who vote for third party candidates are people who don't give a shit who will run the country for the next four years. But what they do care about is the long-term idealogical direction of the country, and that kind of change takes time. So if you care enough about the long-term direction of the country, you'll vote for your preference, not for expedience or the lesser of two evils.

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    28. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by scoobrs · · Score: 2, Informative
      There is no greater waste of a vote than to vote for a candidate who wants to destroy your right to vote-- That candidate is John Kerry.

      Read Kerry's site and look for the portion on election reform where he tells America how he will push for instant runoff voting, public funding of elections, open debates, campaign finance reform. There is none. Kerry and Edwards are U.S. senators! If they wanted Nader not to be a spoiler, they could sponsor bills for any number of reforms, but they DON'T WANT THIRD PARTIES to compete. If they wanted to reform campaign finance, they could at least use their positions to try.

      This election, sworn statements were given in court by the Maine Democratic chairwoman and others saying that their national party PAID both volunteers and lawyers for the official duty of removing Ralph Nader from the state ballots. She admitted in court that volunteers called Nader petition signatories and begged them to remove their names during the grace period on signatures asking them if they were certain they wanted to do so and hurt Kerry.

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      -Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither. -Ben Franklin
    29. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the key is- they hold local offices. In small elections, where people can get heard, they have a chance of winning. I might vote for one there. In a national election, they have none.

      What they need to do is build up. Get some mayors and aldermen. Work from there for state legislature. Then with that fame run a governor and some representatives, maybe a senator. Shooting at the presidency right now is a waste of time, money, and effort.

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      I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
    30. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by ChristTrekker · · Score: 2, Informative

      FWIW, many of the current laws that seem to restrict third parties have their origins in the election of 1912. It was pretty obvious that Roosevelt (Bull Moose) and Taft (Republican) had the clear majority (~51%) of the vote between them, and their positions differed relatively little. But, as we know, they split the "conservative" vote and the Democrat, who differed more substantially from both, won (with only 42%).

      But, as anyone here should be able to recognize, the problem isn't third parties. Everybody has a right to stand up for what they believe and try to convince people to follow them. We should have more diversity of opinion involved in the political process! The problem is that the voting system doesn't support more than two parties. It creates a false dichotomy, because a single vote can only express a preference between two options. After all, Taft supporters would have been more happy with Roosevelt than Wilson, and likewise Roosevelt's backers would be more happy with Taft than Wilson. Even though the largest single block got their first choice, the average voter satisfaction would have been higher with either Roosevelt or Taft.

      We need Condorcet voting.

    31. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by pavon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People who vote for third party candidates are people who don't give a shit who will run the country.

      What a bunch of hyperbolic bullshit. There are many of good reasons to vote third party, and many circumstances where doing so is not a waste of your vote. If a certain candidate has a significant lead in my voting area, then my vote doesn't matter in determining who wins the election anyway. So why shouldn't I for my favorite candidate, regardless of their party?

      "Reps and Dems are the same for all intents and purposes."
      I think the last election proved once and for all just exactly how misguided and wrong this sentiment is.


      You are right that they are very different, but that doesn't mean that either of them is good. If I think that both candidates are equally bad, even if they are bad in different manners, then it doesn't really make any sense to vote for either of them.

      If you look through history, you will see that both major parties have changed substantially as societal views changed, and voting third party is a very effective way of letting them know that they no longer are in sync with my viewpoints. In past situations where the major parties did not change, third parties indeed replaced them. Furthermore, it is not unheard of to have third party candidates elected in state government today.

      In fact, the only time that it makes sense to vote for the lesser of two evils rather than my favorite candidate is when A) one of the two leading candidates is significantly worse than the other B) I live in a voting district which has a chance of casting it's vote for the lesser of the two evils C) the overall race is close enough that the result of my voting district could make a difference in the overal results. All other times I vote for my favorite candidate, which is sometimes third party, sometime major party.

      In my particular situation, all three do apply so I do plan on voting for a major party in this presidential election. But saying that I don't give a shit about my country because I vote third party most of the time is pure garbage.

    32. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by kelnos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's utter bullshit. I do agree that voting third party likely takes many many more votes away from Kerry than it does from Bush. But the reason that we perpetuate a two-party system is because of idiots like you who always pick "the lesser of the two evils". If that's ever going to change, people are going to have to start "throwing away" their votes for what they believe is right, not giving their votes away to what they believe is "not as bad as it could be".

      At the very least, third-party voting numbers do infulence the policies of the two major parties. If Kerry loses in 2004 because 7% of the nation voted third-party, the leading Democratic candidates in 2008 are going to incorporate some of the issues and viewpoints of these third parties to appear more attractive.

      Voting for a Republican or a Democrat when you don't believe in their views means you don't give a shit about the country. The system isn't going to change unless you work with it, a little at a time. Or start an armed revolution, but that's a bit more costly and difficult. I'd much rather start fighting now for a reasonable president in 2016 than continue the Rep and Dem crap that's been going on for so long - a situation that isn't going to change by embracing the status quo. Try having some long-term goals. They're good for you.

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    33. Re:Your vote is Dubya's Vote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The US electoral system, esp. as regards the presidential race, is deeply stacked to destroy independent political movements and reinforce two-party hegemony. Given that reality, any third party candidate who tries to play by the conventional definition of what a campaign is dooms herself/himself to failure by definition.

      Chastising Cobb, or any other independent candidate for not "running like a real candidate" (according to expectations set by the two corporate parties) would be like criticizing Gandhi for not acting "like a real leader" in the style of the British empire.

      I personally supported the Green Party running no candidate for president in my state's (MN) delegate selection process. I did this not because I support Kerry (what a bastard), but because the atmosphere is dramatically different than in 2000, so different that I think it would be a waste of time and energy to throw into an all-out pres. campaign.

      Look folks, the corporate parties want you all to focus on the presidential race (except in 1996, when Clinton wanted a non-event), and talk only about wasted votes and swing states. National politics are the arena in which corporations, powerful interests have the most leverage over citizen activity.

      The real opportunities for changing the system, whether you are a Libertarian, Green, or Socialist Worker, are at the local level. Nader 2000 showed that a gutsy national campaign can get folks interested, but no independent political movement will survive by jumping incessantly after the easiest, broadest publicity. The Green Party needs to work on turning that momentum into real victories at the local level. That's what I'm working on in St. Paul.

      Please argue all you want about wasting of votes, not running a campaign like a real man, or whatever, but also please work on some local, independent, issue-based or electoral campaigns.

  2. Obvious answer by RickyRay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously with the current unpopularity of Bush and Kerry the final vote is down to either you or Ralph Nader. What decisive advantages do you feel you have over Nader that make you more likely to win the presidency? ;-)

    1. Re:Obvious answer by jsrjsr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe for YOU...

      Given that Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate for President, is on the ballot in more states than either Cobb or Nader, you're leaving out another obvious choice.

      I wouldn't vote for either Cobb or Nader -- I disagree with them more often than I do with Bush or Kerry. I will likely vote for Badnarik.

    2. Re:Obvious answer by mshiltonj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously with the current unpopularity of Bush and Kerry the final vote is down to either you or Ralph Nader.

      Bullshit. Did you forget or purposely omit Michael Badnarik? Badnarik will be on 49 state ballots. Can Cobb say that? No!

      Cut it out with the 'obvious' crap and trying to mislead people.

  3. The Nature of Grassroots by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mr. Cobb,

    Thank you for taking our questions.

    The first of the ten key values of the Green Party is "Grssroots Democracy". Over the past few years, the American Green Party has made significant steps forward, but (as best I can tell) is still growing at a local level. While I understand the appeal of national coverage, is running a presidential campaign really in the spirit or the best interests of the party? Wouldn't those funds be more effective in campaigning for more local offices, or launching a statewide candidate in an area where the Greens have a solid foothold? Isn't that how grassroots is supposed to work--from the bottom up and not from the top down?

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    Obliteracy: Words with explosions

    1. Re:The Nature of Grassroots by ThrasherTT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What better way to "get the word out" on your political party and its stance on various issues than to run for President?

      It seems to me like it'd be a pretty cost-effective way to reach the people that aren't too into politics... the people that tend to vote every four years, at best.

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      All Your Memory Are Belong To Java
  4. Next one... by telstar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it easy being Green?

  5. What's your strategy by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In a two-party system like the U.S. has, what is your strategy to draw voters and most importantly have them take you seriously?

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    I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
  6. Mainstream Perception by Locky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Green Party is best known for its progressive policies on the environment, however its other policies are often shrouded by this, most people not knowing where the Green Party stands on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage.

    What do you think might be the best approach to educate the masses about the rest of Green Party polices?

    1. Re:Mainstream Perception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Green Party is best known for its progressive policies on the environment, however its other policies are often shrouded by this, most people not knowing where the Green Party stands on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage.

      Whta kind of political party would have a "policy" on same sex marriage, beyond saying that it's none of their business?

      Let's ask about their policy on oral sex next.

    2. Re:Mainstream Perception by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2

      Any Joe can start a college and start handing out degrees, but nobody considers it worth anything until it's accredited. It won't be accredited until the government decides that it should be, so the government has to have a policy on education. Besides the need to hold a standard for education, what people learn is none of the governments business, of course.

      If you think that marriage should be none of the governments business, are you saying that it shouldn't be a government sanctioned activity? Good luck convincing everyone.

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  7. Switching by MikeMacK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I was a Repubican or Democrat, what would you say to me to make me switch to the Green Party?

    1. Re:Switching by Linuxthess · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ellen Feiss might do the trick....oh wait.

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  8. A "true" third party by charleste · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mr Cobb, As a registered member of the Green Party for the past several elections, I am concerned about the verbage in party information I've received concerning the November 2004 election. It seems I am being encouraged (strongly) to vote for the Democratic ticket. Is the Green Party no longer holding to it's grass-roots past and is it abandoning the philosophy of presenting a viable third-party point of view and candidate? Thank you.

  9. Value 5 by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Decentralization.

    Does that include divesting the Union government of the powers it has accrued after its formation?

    Specifically, would you support decentralizing all environmental law, by leaving it to the states and private citizens?

    -Peter

  10. What's your ultimate goal? by DesScorp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing I've wondered about third party candidates is their motivation; do you really think you can win races? Do you think that if you run long enough, eventually you can break through the two party system? Or is it just a "protest candidacy" because you don't agree with the Democratic Party's platform? Would you be a Democrat if they became more of a leftist party (for lack of a better way to put it, but you know what I mean; if they had policies more in line with the Green Party). Or do you really and truly believe in your party, and want get them elected and into the political system?

    Bottom line, do you ever think that you can truly win political office in the United States, now or in the future?

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  11. Affirmative Action by Brown+Eggs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How does the Green Party's view on affirmative action (from what I could gather from your website) coincide with key value #2 (social justice and equal opportunity)? It seems that someone who is pushing for monetary reparations for past injustices as well as affirmative action programs cannot say they also confront things that "deny fair treatment" (also from key value #2).

  12. Nader by DrWho520 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is your opinion of Ralf Nader's actions after not gaining the Green Party Nomination for president? Do you think the Reform Party and the Green Party share any ideological common ground? If the first major Reform Party candidate, Ross Perot, is at all representative of the Reform Party platform, I would think there would be a clash of believes between the two parties. Is Nader selling out for another bid at the presidency?

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  13. Presidential versus other elections by frostman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since the Green party (as other minor parties) has no chance of winning the Presidency, how does the party evaluate and justify spending resources on this contest instead of on Congressional and state-level contests?

    Is it a PR thing? If you look at the Greens in Germany (granted, very different system) you see that they rose slowly over time from the smallest contests to eventually having Cabinet positions.

    What is the American Green Party's overall strategy to increase their representation, and how does an unwinnable Presidential election fit into it?

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  14. Taxes by AstroDrabb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently watched your very good and very friendly debate between Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik. One issue you brought up was universal health care that taxpayer would pay for. If you are elected president, what do you think is a fair tax percentage for the average American, 10%, 20%, 30%? If you say it depends on how much you make, then for the sake of this question, say I make $75,000 a year. What percentage would a Green party president expect an average American making $75,000 a year pay to support all these social plans?

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    1. Re:Taxes by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Interesting
      As of the 2000 census, the average American makes $57,045. An American making $75,000 a year falls into the top 1/4 of Americans, income-wise.

      Thus, a (comparatively well-to-do) American making $75,000 a year would probably be expected to pay a fairly hefty tax rate, say 30-35%. It'd keep you from buying a lot of nifty toys, and you'll probably need to settle on a humbler house than you'd otherwise want, but it's not really not that hard a price to pay.

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    2. Re:Taxes by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So what you are asking, while perhaps relevant for the Slashdot audience, is slightly biased.

      Given that it is a Slashdot audience that will read the answers, bias is appropriate. Although we might try to convince people otherwise, our natural reaction to any kind of change is to seek what impact it will have on us personally. Will we be better or worse off, and by how much? Actually caring about others usually takes place after we've assessed the potential damage to ourselves.

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    3. Re:Taxes by BrainInAJar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Canada, land of social health care, pays 9.3% of it's GDP on health care.

      The states, 14% source
      So, I don't know that your taxes would be that much higher

    4. Re:Taxes by YellowBook · · Score: 3, Interesting
      What percentage would a Green party president expect an average American making $75,000 a year pay to support all these social plans?

      Bah, I wanted to moderate rather than post in this thread, but you've baited me into it. If you think an average American makes $75,000 a year, you are completely out of touch. The median household income for the US was $43,318 last year. Per capita income was 35,000, but that counts children, so isn't really applicable.

      Also, it's rather naive to talk about "tax percentages" as if there were only one tax out there and it affected everyone equally. Most people pay a variety of state and local taxes along with federal income tax (progressively graduated) and federal payroll taxes (slightly regressive because of how it's capped). Tax reform is a complex subject, and it can't be reduced to "what do you think the rate should be." If you're interested, you should have a look at a very good overview of the different possibilities and their consequences.

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    5. Re:Taxes by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Echoing the other reply to your post in some respects, but are you a communist? Why should the wealthy pay a higher percentage than anyone else? Do you want to see a situation where no matter what anyone does for a living, they take home $x and that is it? Why would anyone bother to go to school for years on end to learn when they will get no reward besides a pat on the back and "good job" for making sure every high school drop out gets money for menial work?

      Dammit, are you really suggesting that I'm some idiot who sees economic policy as some light switch? You think I live in some black-and-white, Hardcore Anarchy vs. Big Brother in your Bathroom world? Or are you just trying to thrust me into some convenient mold so you can smear me with whatever the talking points tell you to say? And what the hell is up with that 'are you a communist' crap? Are you some wild-eyed McCarthyist or something? You think I'm gonna go all shakey in the knees 'cuz you're insinuating I'm some bass-ackwards god-damned Red who wants to destroy America and shit on her apple pie?

      Here's a novel idea for you. I'm interested in using government, a government made by the People, for the People, to actually help the fucking people. That's the whole fucking point of society. You think you were just born into a place that happened to somehow magically become the greatest nation on earth one day? Do you know anything of our history? Do you know anything about human nature? You really think that tweaking a government so that it caters to the ambition and greed of the individual is a good fucking long-term plan?

      You think you stand to gain from your position? You and I, friend, are fucking peons to the people who have real wealth and real power. Given opportunity to take even more wealth and power, I assure you that they'll beat the likes of us senseless in getting it. We are the schmucks who -should- be making $60,000-75,000 a year. We're the poor bastards who get to look at annual double-digit-percent insurance premium increases and actually wonder if it's worth gambling on whether or not we'll fall ill this year...and maybe next year... Does that strike you as sensible? Do you really want to tip the scales to favor frighteningly rich people who are in it to take your money for their own personal gain? That's what you want from society?

      Do you even understand the statistics you bandy about? Of course the people who make over $50k are going to pay the vast majority of our income tax--they've got the vast majority of the fucking money! You're going to see the same kinds of numbers when you apply a flat tax! Go ahead--try it! Whip out Excel and run some simple scenarios, then scratch your head in wonderment when those same long-suffering rich folks get "stiffed" over and over again!

      You and I are chattle. In the grand scheme of American power and wealth, we're the unwashed plebes. The more power and wealth we willingly cede to the individuals who already posess most of the power and wealth, the less opportunity we're going to have to get a piece of it, and the less they'll want to give it back. If you're gonna advocate 'every man for himself', be damn sure that the guys standing behind you with the machine guns are on your side.

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    6. Re:Taxes by rworne · · Score: 2, Informative

      $75K per year won't even qualify you to buy a house now in California without a substantial down payment (much more than 20%).

      A median home (in mid 2003) is over $550K in the Bay Area and $430K in Los Angeles. Incomes are required to be over $120K/yr in SF and over 80K/yr in LA just to buy a house nowadays.

      The paper Locked Out (PDF File) explains it in detail.

      I'm concerned, because local housing prices are climbing way faster than my income. Common sense tells me that 20%+ year over year appreciation cannot be sustained forever, but the market keeps telling me otherwise.

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  15. Voting Rights for Noncitizens? by anzha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thank you for your time. Recently in San Francisco, Matt Gonzalez, a popular local Green Party politico, has been pushing for the ability for noncitizens to vote in some of the local elections. While there are other places that offer this long before SF, it seems as though this erodes the differences between having citizenship or not. Rather than expanding the franchise this way, why not work to streamline the process for getting citizenship and encourage people to seek it?

    Can you expound and explain a bit on your stance on this?

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  16. Meta-game strategy by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hello, Given that the current system of voting tends to reinforce the positions of the two major parties (e.g. you must vote for a candidate or for their closest challenger), have you given any though to supporting election reform as a method of making inroads for your party? It would seem that if all the 'second class' political parties supported election reform you would be able to make larger strides than trying to play the republicrat's game.

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    1. Re:Meta-game strategy by einhverfr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That is one option. However, I do like the fact that if I have trouble with a government agency, I can write my Rep and have his office look into it for me. The parliamentary system you talk about does not give that option.

      What you are advocating might be a democracy, but it seems to lead to the abolishment of the American republic and the establishement of something else.

      Personally, I would rather see something like a European "double majority" presidential election occur where the votes are tallied and one has to win bit a majority of states comprising 60% of the population. For this to work, I think one would have to have something like a modified approval voting/instant run-off system replace the electoral college.

      Approval or instant run-off voting could also create some viability for third parties in the races for congressional seats.

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  17. what is a President's role with the environment? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As President, you would at best be able to veto bills and direct some agency policies (within the confines of legislation).

    Why are you seeking the presidency, particularly? Why is it the best strategy for achieving your goals?

  18. National debt? by isotope23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr Cobb,

    What in your view is the proper scope and size of the federal government?

    Do you think environental issues are best solved at the federal, or local (state county etc) level?

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  19. Voting Machines by jabex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's much talk about the security and reliability of current electronic voting machines. What do you think needs to be done about it (if anything), and can it be done without being elected by them in the first place?

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  20. Re: wow... That was wierd. by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, technically he was elected.

    The Florida Supreme Court tried to apply alternate vote-counting rules not allowed under Florida law to ballots in specific counties. This was overturned on a 7-2 decision of the US Supreme Court. The FSC also tried to extend the date of certification when the certification date also was clearly stated under Florida law. This is the vote that was overturned on a 5-4 decision. The USSC basically said that the election results as then-currently counted under Florida law had to stay put, because the FSC was trying to rewrite election law on its own, which is not its role in the system.

    And to correct your other point, the limit is ten years in office, which usually translates to two elected terms as president with some overlap in case the VP is moved up a notch. So no, even if you were right, he wouldn't be able to run twice more.

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  21. Re: wow... That was wierd. by ValourX · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, he was elected. I'm so sick of people saying that "Bush stole the election" and a bunch of other leftist bullshit. You should read this before you go on FUDing the president:

    Recount analysis by NYT (no reg required)

    I don't like Bush either, but you don't see me resorting to FUD to try to sway people's opinions.

    -Jem

  22. Reparations by christopherfinke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the Green Party website, it states that you support "reparations for people of color in the form of monetary compensation."

    Where would this money come from, if this plan was enacted and how would the recipients be determined? If the money would come from tax dollars, what do you say to people, such as myself, whose ancestors had no part in slavery or major racial discrimination and don't think their tax dollars should be spent on these reparations?

    1. Re:Reparations by El · · Score: 5, Insightful
      More importantly, if you are of mixed race, do you have to pay reparations to yourself?

      Yes, I beleive we should acknowledge that slavery was wrong and appologize for it. But the whole concept of reparations is flawed on two fundamental issues: who should receive reparations, and who should pay?. Ancestry is nearly impossible to trace; should someone whose great-great-great grandparent was a slave receive 1/32 of a reparation payment? Not all blacks are descended from slaves. A few blacks were even slave owners! This issue is simply not as black-and-white as everybody seems to think...

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    2. Re:Reparations by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, I beleive we should acknowledge that slavery was wrong and appologize for it.

      Over 360,000 Union soldiers died during the Civil War, largely to put an end to slavery. How much more can possibly be said?

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    3. Re:Reparations by Daniel+Boisvert · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Over 360,000 Union soldiers died during the Civil War, largely to put an end to slavery. How much more can possibly be said?

      Well, how 'bout the bit about the War between the States not being even remotely related to slavery? You know, that whole thing about it being a federal gov't vs. states' rights thing, and Lincoln using the elimination of slavery as a tool to win that war.

      I was raised in the North, and didn't fully grasp the lies I was taught as a child in school until I read a letter in Lincoln's own hand spelling out his feelings on the slavery issue (the letter I read is currently part of the collection at the Wadsworth Atheneum in Hartford, CT). I don't mean to imply that I'm in favour of reparations--I'm not, doubly-so since my ancestors weren't even in this country during the time period in question. I do think it's important to do things for the right reasons, though. :)

    4. Re:Reparations by Jakhel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, schools are still teaching that bullshit? You know how many half truths are taught in history classes..then again, history is told by the victors right?

      It's funny, the first time my teacher (in middle school) told me that the war wasn't about slavery, I was pissed. The older I got, the more I learned and realized that the only reason slavery even BECAME an issue was that it was the South's main economic tool. Without slaves the South's economy would go to shit..Lincoln realized this, hence he issued the emancipation proclamation. He said himself that if he could unite the country without freeing slaves, he would do it.

      And think about it, how could the war really be about slavery when lincoln owned slaves?

    5. Re:Reparations by GerryGilmore · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about the fact that - awful though slavery certainly was - *I* had no part in it, never owned anyone nor was responsible in any way for it? WHY should I apologize for something done over a hundred years ago? Because my skin tone is roughly the same tone as theirs? Whatever happened to being reponsible for what YOU did, not some distant, unknown, dead relative?

  23. Green White House vs. Capitol Hill by Y2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Supposing the usual 2-party congress, what would be the most realistically achievable yet significant accomplishment a Green president could hope to make in the first hundred days ... or the first year?

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  24. Copyright and Digital Law by Nick+Fury · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Obviously we here at slashdot are a bit on the techie side. I know that I have personally watched my rights being taken away from me over the past few years. Mainly my right to fair use. Under current law it is illegal to watch CSS encoded DVDs under Linux or any other Open Source operating system. What are you and your party's feelings on loosening certain restrictions to make the act of fair use a right again.

    Also, on the concept of intellectual property and copyright laws. What are your party's and your feelings on the current trend of extending the length of copyright terms? Do you have any plans to reverse the current trend or perhaps to set the lengths back to their original terms?

    Thanks.
    ---Nick Fury

  25. Drug Reform by L3on · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is your stance on the use of medical-marijana? What do you think can be done to change the way in which the war on drugs in America is being fought, either legalizing/decriminalizing and taxing or otherwise?

    Furthermore, How will you deal with our budget deficit and reform the GOP's relentless tax cuts and the Democratic Party's exorbanent spending?

  26. DMCA and surrounding issues? by hoborocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is your stance on the DMCA and surrounding issues (upcoming acts like the INDUCE act)? Should legislation like this be curbed, watered down, or tightened?

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  27. DOH! by isotope23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My Bad got sidetracked there and cut the first question out....

    Mr Cobb,

    What is your view of our national debt versus
    current entitlement programs? How would you
    balance the federal budget and would you support
    paying off the national debt?

    What in your view is the proper scope and size of the federal government?

    Do you think environental issues are best solved at the federal, or local (state county etc) level?

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  28. Simple question by greg_barton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why doesn't the Green Party support nuclear power?

    1. Re:Simple question by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Interesting
      a href equals Issue: Nuclear Power Dangers
      There is no such thing as nuclear waste "disposal." All 6 of the "low-level" nuclear waste dumps in the United States have leaked. Generation of additional nuclear wastes must be stopped. We call for the early retirement of nuclear power reactors as soon as possible (in no more than 5 years); for a phase-out of other technologies that use or produce nuclear waste; and for an intensive campaign to educate the public about nuclear problems, including disposal, clean-up and long-term dangers.
      I'm not a green, but my bullet point would be the Price-Anderson Act. The Libertarians seem to think that deregulation would allow nuke plants to be able to afford their own insurance. I don't see why. If nukes can fly without government subsidy & indemnification, then I'm pro-nuke too. But they have to pay for their own waste disposal, and if they fail to contain their waste, they should have to pay for the damages, too.

      Do you really think nuke plants could get built without government subsidy? No one has ever really tried to convince me, but maybe it's possible.
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    2. Re:Simple question by Oriumpor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the primary issue that the greens have with Nuclear Power generation is the fission byproducts and their disposal.

      To a certain extent I must agree. But I believe that if we allow for the disposal of nuclear waste by firing it into a decaying orbit around the sun I'd say Nuke plants would be a good idea.

      Otherwise we're gonna fill up all the springfield gorges in the world and our mutated ancestors will have to deal with three eyed fish.

      Deregulating nukes and forcing a free market might create an environment for cheap commercial Guass style launch systems. That is if the same people calling for getting rid of nuclear reactors would let reactive materials into space without a huge fuss. (See Ion drives)

      Now, with this in mind. As the Green Party Presidential candidate, would you support the disposal of fission byproducts by shooting them into the sun? And if this is made a reality, would the Party's stance significantly change towards nuclear power generation?

  29. In the event you win, what about congress? by vg30e · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not trying to be an overall pessimist, but one of the most difficult parts of being the president is that having a very partisan congress makes any proposed "good idea" from anyone a big target. I would really like to see legislation for Industrial Hemp, Biodiesel, and many other non-fossil fuels take root as an energy policy, but special interest lobbying groups would make passing any major changes through the legislative branch almost impossible.

  30. Viable Third-parties by thewiz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb,
    What do you believe is necessary for your party or any other to become a viable third party in American elections? Even though George Washington warned against having a partisan political system in his farewell speech, America seems to have developed a two-party system that forces third-parties out of the political process.

    Also, what do you think of the Democratic and Republican parties shift away from what's good for America toward what is good for their respective parties and the businesses / people that support them while leaving the majority of Americans out?

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  31. Corporate News by stupkid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What do you see as the greatest problem with US News media? What do you think is the best way of restoring more objective news outlets? How would you change current media regulations and how would you encourage independant non-profit news outlets?

    Thanks!

  32. All politics is local by Quixote · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In the words of Tip O'Neill, "All politics is local".

    What is this desire to aim directly for the Whitehouse? Why not pool resources and fight the local battles? By aiming for the presidency (and ignoring the local politics), you are setting yourselves up for a fall. We all know that in a 2-party system, rigged the way it is, your chances of winning the Whitehouse are somewhere between 0.00 and 0.000. Then why waste the resources on this race?

    How many members of Congress do you have? How many locally elected officials does the Green Party have? How many judicial appointees do you have? See the pattern here?

    Maybe this isn't a question as much as a rant, but if you feel like, please answer why you are wasting the time and effort on a run for the Whitehouse, when the same resources, applied at local levels, would yield immensely more benefit.

    1. Re:All politics is local by powerlinekid · · Score: 2, Informative

      The green party does aim local. I was a resident of New Paltz, NY (12561 is the zip) where the mayor town and board are members of the green party. From what I understand this is the only such place in the country, although there may be another town in California.

      So your point is well taken however a bit off.

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    2. Re:All politics is local by RobertB-DC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How many members of Congress do you have? How many locally elected officials does the Green Party have? How many judicial appointees do you have? See the pattern here?

      According to http://greens.org/elections/

      429 Candidates in 2004
      40 States
      74 Types of Offices

      And I do indeed see a pattern:

      37 Victories in 1996-7
      44 Victories in 1998-9
      131 Victories in 2000-1
      146 Victories in 2002-3

      Considering the obstacles faced by third-party candidates... I like what I see so far.

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  33. Re:I love their protest slogan... by mudshark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Voting to give W the authority to go to war != voting for W's war. Many Dem senators went along with this vote because they were repeatedly assured that the administration viewed war as a last resort, that the sanctions were still in place, the WMD inspectors were still on the ground, and the decision to commit troops would be made only on the firmest of evidentiary and moral grounds.

    We all know no what a crock that was. Kerry has said as much. What's unfortunate is that this inaccurate right-wing trope has also become a soundbite for some on the left.

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  34. Re: wow... That was wierd. by ethanms · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what the purpose of allowing snowmobiles in national parks is

    I think it's acceptable in some parks not in all. You can't ride in all areas... ask a better question. A park isn't museum, it's also a recreational area.

    what the point is behind conflict of interest stanzas in employment contracts

    what do you think the point is?

    ask him why we have a national oil reserve

    We have a national oil reserve so that if the production of oil stops and there is a dire need for oil, we will have some. dire need does not include assholes w/ SUVs who are sick of paying $2/gal at the pump. It's dry friendly wells and a world war where real American's need to put their lives on the line in tanks, planes and boats to save your sorry ass while you sip a mochachino and debate which broadway play you liked better you noodle armed nancy pants.

    Bush wasn't elected, he was appointed technically

    According to the laws of this country Bush was elected. Get over it.

    Meanwhile MTV has their bullshit voting campaigns where they brainwash millions of already-mindless american youths to vote a certain way...

    I'd love to know (not with some bullshit poll, but with some cosmic brain that knows all or by asking god or something) what percentage of voting americans (or anyone) actually knows anything about the candidate they are voting for, except for what they've seen on TV commercials or other biased media?

    How many go out and actually look at the record of this person's voting in the senate? Or the bills that this person vetoed/approved while in his last term? Or this persons personal actions in life? Bush has made some fuck-ups and so has Kerry... almost every politician has, because they're generally power hungry and assholes to boot.

  35. The Constitution & The Green Party by phaln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks for your time, Mr. Cobb. How do you reconcile your more socialist-leaning positions with the letter of the U.S. Constitution? Meaning, how are they a valid function of the Federal government, as opposed to, say, state and local jurisdictions? Also, I understand that "social programs" are a large part of what comprises the GP platform, but how do you plan to actually create these new programs, remain fiscally responsible, and at the same time quell the [very] valid arguments against large increases in taxation? Please define what compells your candidacy to further a notion of "greater good" while perhaps others do not share your definition thereof.

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    1. Re:The Constitution & The Green Party by hey · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Green Party isn't left leaning. They are free enterprise until it hurts somebody else. ie run your business they way you want but once you begin poluting then its everyone's business and you need to stop or be taxed liek mad. A view I agree with.

      In fact, its my view of freedom.

  36. What is the best way to move America leftwards? by Cryofan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it is now becoming conventional wisdom among the American Left that America politics as a whole has moved rightwards (more conservative) in the last 30 years. Among the most cogent analyses of the move to the right are those that trace the flow of money (over $2B) from the ultra rich and the large multinational corporations to conservative rightwing foundations and thinktanks (see for example the essays at www.tcfranks.com, and google "tentacles of rage").

    The more visible component of this propaganda machine are the talk radio shows and the cable tv news shows. But they sprang from, and still largely depend on, fodder from the think tanks and foundations.

    Many on the American Left now accept that unless this inexorable flood of rightwnig propaganda is somehow countered or neutralized, electoral politicking (e.g., fighting to elect Kerry, or voting 3rd party) is somewhat moot, because this decades-old flood of propaganda has also moved the Democratic party to the right much the same as the GOP. Also, the undemocratic structure of the electoral political machine in America (single member, winner take all districts, etc) would seem to disempower 3rd parties except for a spoiler role.

    Given the situation outlined above, what good does it do to engage in 3rd party electoral politics?

    And more to the point, what can American leftists do to move America to the left, given the power that 3 decades of rightwing propaganda has had on the American political mind?

    Would it be more productive trying to land a talk radio gig somewhere?

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    1. Re:What is the best way to move America leftwards? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2
      Sheesh. Or maybe it wasn't propaganda that moved people to the right, it was the failed policies of the left.

      Did you ever think the left fails because they're just bad ideas?

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    2. Re:What is the best way to move America leftwards? by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ummm, please name another cable TV network besides FoxNews that you would consider conservative? CNN? Given that two of their commentators (James Carville and Paul Bevala) are official advisers of the Kerry campaign I don't think they quite fit the bill! Given that no news source has talked about this gross violation of journalistic ethics, how can you claim that there is this massive conservative media bias?

      See, the thing is, by global standards CNN is very conservative. When Americans complain about their "liberal media" they are complaining about media that in unashamedly biased toward the Democrats. That's not a liberal media, that's just supporting the other partisan side of a debate that ignores a wide variety of issues.

      In general the US media, in its politcal reporting, has a very narrow focus. There is a lot of argument over Republicans and Democrats, but not much real discussion of issues. Ever seen many news stories about actually making a smaller federal government? How about limiting the rights, or expanding the responsibilities of corporations? How about discussions of the size of the US military? How about discussions of intellectual property? How to deal with waste disposal given the increasing amounts of waste we produce?

      Several of these questions have 2 sides, and the Republicans and Democrats are on neither of them - they just blithely ignore the issue remaining with the status quo. Which is, I might point out, the very definition of conservative.

      Jedidiah.

  37. here goes again by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll ask the same questions I posed to the Libertarian candidate:

    Would you approve of, and what would you think would be the results of, the following election reforms:

    1. Abolition of electoral college, president is elected by simple popular vote.

    2. Federal mandate that electoral votes from a state be split proportional to the popular vote within that state. (e.g. if California splits 60-40 Kerry-Bush, then their electoral votes are split 60-40 as well). This helps move away from the very brittle "all or nothing" electoral system, where as few as 1 fraudulent or defrauded vote can change the outcome of the national election for president.

    3. Constitutional amendment granting naturalised citizens the eligibility to run for president or vice president. This would allow for the 2008 ticket for the new political party, C.O.P. (Cast Of Predator) to field Arnold Schwartzeneggar and Jesse Venutra as their presidential ticket.

    Lastly a question: is the democratic system as instituted in the United States hopelessly mired in a two-party stranglehold, leaving corporate interest in defacto charge of the discussion? Is legal election reform necessary, or even possible?

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    1. Re:here goes again by Keebler71 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well, I am not the Green candidate, but I will take a swag at answering anyway. First off though, I suggest reading up on the issue.

      Abolition of electoral college, president is elected by simple popular vote.

      As a practical matter, not even worth discussion as a Constitutional ammendment to this effect will never happen. There is no way that the small states for whom the EC gives more voting power would vote for this, hence this ammendment will never be ratified. Nevermind the discussion on whether or not it is a good idea. It is an excellent recipe for civil war, however as candidates will simply pander to the small, densly populated urban centers - failing to address the concerns of much of rural America.

      2. Federal mandate that electoral votes from a state be split proportional to the popular vote within that state. (e.g. if California splits 60-40 Kerry-Bush, then their electoral votes are split 60-40 as well). This helps move away from the very brittle "all or nothing" electoral system, where as few as 1 fraudulent or defrauded vote can change the outcome of the national election for president.

      First, a "federal mandate" for this would be insufficient, as it would require a constitutional ammendment to enforce. The Constitution clearly states that the states will decide how their electors are allocated.
      As a practical matter, why would any state want to do this. Consider California for instance, right now it has some 55 electoral votes. Under a proportional system, lets say that Kerry gets 30 of these and Bush gets 25. The outcome of California voting has now been reduced to that of a 10 vote state.

      3. Constitutional amendment granting naturalised citizens the eligibility to run for president or vice president. This would allow for the 2008 ticket for the new political party, C.O.P. (Cast Of Predator) to field Arnold Schwartzeneggar and Jesse Venutra as their presidential ticket.

      Now this I'd like to see,... maybe Alien and Predator can be on the opposite ticket!

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      "It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell
  38. Why such broad reaching ideals? by stomv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Firstly, thank you for responding to our questions.

    The name "Green Party" conjures images of a party interested in environmental concerns. Of course, environmental legislation isn't the only issue to have environmental impacts; international trade and energy policy both have substantial environmental ramifications. However, it seems some Green issues aren't environmentally related. For example, while I too believe that gender equity and diversity are good values, why are they part of The Green Party's Ten Key Values, given they don't appear to be substantially related to environmental issues?

    Why does it seem that the Green Party takes on issues that aren't related to "green-ness"? Is it essential for a modern US political party to have a stance on every issue, even those not seemingly related to core beliefs?

  39. Want my vote? by Mateito · · Score: 2, Funny

    Declare that if you win, you'll give the Whitehouse an environmentally friendly paint-job, so we can then call it the "GreenHouse".

    Will make it a more difficult target for terrorists too. Camoflague!

  40. Party Image by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    America is ready for a third party -- the Democrats seem to have lost their thunder, and many Republicans feel that their party isn't meeting their needs.

    However, the name "Green Party" invokes in many people images of socialism and even ecoterrorism. The ecological movement has been painted as an anti-worker and even anti-American concept by people who believe that conservation and the reduction of pollution should be voluntary undertakings. I know that's not what the party is about, but that's doesn't stop older voters like my father from equating the movement with, for lack of a better term, neo-hippism.

    How does the party plan to improve its public image and distance itself from more radical anti-corporate, anti-ecological groups? And how do you intend to endear your humanistic social goals to the institutions that currently fund the political system, namely rich individuals and corporations?

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  41. Gun Control. by e9th · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Your 2004 platform is "coming soon," but the 2000 version calls for "thoughtful, carefully considered GUN CONTROL [capitalization yours]."

    What exactly does that mean? Registration? Licensing? Confiscation?

  42. racism by AstroDrabb · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Where do you stand on racism laws? From watching your debate it appears as if the Green Party feels that racism is when a white person is racist against a black person or when a male is racist against a female. According to dictionary.com
    rac-ism
    1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    Wouldn't this mean that racism is really one race thinking they are superior to others and not just white vs. black? Exactly how would creating laws that favor blacks or women end racism?
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  43. Can we take you seriously? by cindy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When The Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik was interviewed on Slashdot, there was a comment made about how disruptive it would be to implement his (and his party's) ideas. His response, in essense, was that since the only way he would get elected was if hell had frozen over, that it made sense to create a platform for that situation. While that makes for a nice way for people to give the finger to "the man", it hardly provides a real alternative to the current system.

    My question is: are you guys ready or able to play on the same stage as the Democrats and Republicans, can you get the attention of the media, and can you sell your message to the average american? Convince me that voting for you would be of more use than voting for the lesser of two evils.

  44. Public financing for elections by pyro101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mention support for public financing of elections, how would you stop private financing of the candidates but still allow freedom of speach? For example would Fahrenheit 9/11 classify as private financing or comercials that are critical of candidates?

  45. The Bible by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since the green party platform calls for the banning of homophobia would you make it illegal for Christian preachers to preach on that topic? It has happend in Europ.

  46. Advanced technologies stance by wikdwarlock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb,

    Some future technologies may deliver unparalleled energy efficiency, resource utilization, and the ability to reduce or reverse many of the ecological problems that current technologies and societies have created. As examples, molecular nanotechnology may enable atomically precise manufacturing and widely adopted fusion power would reduce greenhouse gas emisions from burning fossil fuels. However, both of these technologies also present major risks to the planet and the human species. Nanotech gone wrong may lead to grey goo that would destroy the biosphere, while fusion power requires (moderately) radioactive materials that could poison water supplies if released. Given that such technologies both serve to meet the Green Party's goals of energy independence and environmental responsibility, and could seriously jeopardize those same goals, where do you stand on advanced technologies?

    And, because I'm curious, a space question: If affordable space travel becomes available and people can easily colonize other planets or moons, how would you answer calls for teraforming to help ensure the spread and long term survival of humanity?

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    "I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer." -Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
  47. A green global policy? by formal_entity · · Score: 4, Interesting
    • Was the invasion of Iraq illegal under present international law?

    • Do you think a "war on terrorism" is the most effective way to reduce terror?

    • Do you support the ICC (International Criminal Court)?

    • Do you think it's justified that certain countries have a permanent right to veto decisions in the UN security counsel?

    • What's your view of space exploration?
  48. Re:A "true" third party by scaaven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you must understand, now is not the time for social experiments regarding the feasibility of >2 parties running for president. Making politcal stances is fine, I mean - I hate Bush and John Kerry is a douche bag (but im voting for him anyways.com), but it's not worth having Bush for another 4 years, because let's face it -- republicans are lemmings that hear nothing else and are much less likely to take independent stances. It's a sad state of affairs we live in now, but we free-minded people must band together a defeat this buffoon monster.

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  49. Changing the voting system by suzerain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hi there:

    I'm wondering why ALL third parties in the United States don't band together on one issue that would help all of them: changing our voting procedure.

    Whether you are Libertarian, Green, Constitutionalist, Natural Law, Reform, or anything else...you would benefit if the United States adopted a voting system similar to Australia's, where instead of voting for one (and only one) candidate, we could put our candidates in order of preference, so that if our preferred choice wasn't a contender, our vote would automatically be cast for our second choice, and so on.

    It seems to me that our two party system is guaranteed by the mathematics of the constitution, and that a simple modification like that would make third parties more viable, in that even though they still probably wouldn't win, at least people would feel free to vote for the candidate who most represents their ideals, thus enhancing the visibility of the platforms you espouse.

    Wouldn't it be in your interests to spearhead public debate with all third parties (even if you don't agree with them on other issues) in order to make change like this possible?

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  50. Nuclear Power by iammrjvo · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Thank you for taking our questions, Mr. Cobb.

    Your party's issue statement on nuclear power calls for "the early retirement of nuclear power reactors as soon as possible." Could you please explain your party's position on nuclear energy (1) in light of new, safe reactor designs and (2) in light of the necessity of the United States to wean its dependence on foreign oil?

    Thank you.

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  51. Is the Green Party a tool of the Democratic Party? by crush · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Mr. Cobb,

    the Green Party and your candidacy in particular has been accused of being dominated by Democratic Party insiders who seek to undermine Nader's campaign using un-democratic methods.

    A well-researched example of this is Marnie Glickman, one of the three members of the Green Party's National Co-ordinating Committee, who has a history as a committed and succesful (over $10 million) Democratic Party fundraiser.

    The article referenced above concludes:

    The upshot is not a single incumbent Oregon Democrat member of Congress has any possibility of the PGP [*] impacting their reelection. Add in Cobb's current polling at 0% and some might say "Mission Accomplished."

    Given that your campaign would appear to have a number of recent "ex Democratic Party" activists and that your campaign seems mainly to have served to attack Nader's candidacy do you feel that you've been played for a patsy by more experienced politicos?

    * PGP = Pacific Green Party

  52. Re:I love their protest slogan... by the+chao+goes+mu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps the dems voted for the war due to relatively broad public support and the upcoming 2002 congressional elections? Of course not! They couldn't be that cynical, could they?

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  53. School Choice by shrubsky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb,

    The Green Party platform states in section II.A.2 that,

    "Education starts with CHOICE and within public education we believe in broad choices. "Magnet schools," "Site-based Management," "Schools within Schools," alternative models and parental involvement are ways in which elementary education can be changed to make a real difference in the lives of our children."

    Since the Green Party believes so strongly in school choice, do you support giving parents the option of receiving vouchers with which they can send their children to private schools (secular or religous) or to pay for the expense of home schooling? If not, why do you only support choice within government-controlled schools?

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  54. Give me a pragmatic reason to vote for you. by eataTREE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb:

    I am what is usually described in the United States as a 'liberal' or 'progressive'. As such, I share most, if not almost all of your party's ideals and goals.

    Nevertheless, neither I nor anyone I know who shares my political views plan to vote for you in November. While your positions on the issues may match my own more closely than any other candidate, I believe I have a better chance of seeing at least some of my positions enacted as public policy if I vote for John Kerry.

    With all due respect, Mr. Cobb, you are not going to win the election this year. To a certainty, the winner will be either John Kerry or George Bush. If George Bush is the winner, then he will continue to govern according to his extreme right-wing beliefs. Most, if not all progressive causes that you and I support will suffer significant setbacks. As President Bush will most likely be able to nominate one or more Supreme Court judges during a second term, those setbacks would long outlive his administration.

    If, on the other hand, John Kerry is elected, he will govern according to the political preferences of the Democratic party. While Kerry and the Democrats are, in general, quite a bit more conservative than I am, the simple fact is that the progressive causes I support would fare far better under Kerry than they would under Bush. I am sure that a President Kerry would do things that I strongly disagree with, but I am also sure that his goals and mine are not fundamentally incompatible. In short, I am certain that I can live with Kerry, just as I am certain that I cannot live with George Bush.

    According to the polls, this election is going to be extremely close. If John Kerry is to win, he needs every vote he can get. I do not have the luxury of knowing that whoever ultimately wins the election will be at least somethat acceptable to me. Bush must be defeated or the ideals I stand for will be in serious jeopardy.

    Thus, my question to you is: How is voting for you, as opposed to Kerry, make it more likely that the ideals I support will be reflected in public policy? Is there a *pragmatic* reason why I and other progressives should vote for you?

  55. I Love This Open Mindedness!!! by Black-Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When Ross Perot was stealing votes from George Bush... it was OK. Now that Nader or whomever is stealing votes from Kerry... it's a crime.

  56. Health Care by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "We support universal health care and a single-payer insurance program, that is publicly financed at the national level, administered locally, and privately delivered with freedom of choice of provider. It would cover all standard medical procedures, as well
    as drug treatment, dental care, medication for chronic and terminal illness, equal coverage of
    mental illness, and abortion."

    Does this mean that you would make it illegal for a person to pay for medical care themselves? If not, how do you plan on inforcing the 'single-payer' portion of your plan?

    What about wages in the medical field? Would you limit how much hourly workers like nurses are paid?

  57. Nader backlash? by sterno · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On a similar train of thought, do you feel that Nader's campaign in 2000 will be more helpful or detrimental to the Green party going forward? Clearly there's been a backlash against Nader, but how much of that has carried over to the greens. Is the backlash offset by the higher visibility that the green party might now possess because of it?

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  58. Home Schoo; / Private School? by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you plan to force Home School and private schools to teach your diversity plan? IOW, to you plan to force religious schools to teach that other religions are just a good as the religion they believe in?

  59. Local vs. National Elections by nemski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With over 400 Green Party candidates in 40 states in 2004, wouldn't it be wiser for the Green Party to be building local support throughout the nation as opposed to quixote quest for the Presidency which could be considered a waste of money and talent as well as a lack of focus?

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  60. Clean Campaign by AmericanInKiev · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given that Political Campaigns have been reduced to which side can out-litter the other with non-biodegradeable liver-poisening plastic signs on public property, roadsides, intersections, lamppoles etc - how does a responsible environmentalist participate in an (illegal)littering campaign?

    If the price of admission is trashing the environment - so how does the good side compete?

    (Arrested in NC for cleaning up illegal signs - including political signs.)

    AIK

  61. maximum wage? by XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Do you support the following part of the Green Party's platform?

    "Maximum Income: Build into the progressive income tax a 100% tax on all income, regardless of source, over ten times the minimum wage. With this Ten Times Rule in effect under today's extremely unequal distribution of income in the U.S., a 100% tax on income above ten times the minimum wage would allow us to cut the income taxes of everyone in the bottom 99%, by over half for the top brackets, by over three-quarters in the middle brackets, and totally for the lower brackets--and still generate about 40% more tax revenues than under the current income tax structure."

  62. Iraq, War on Terror by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Regardless of what anyone thoguth about getting involved in the first place, the current situation needs be dealt with. I'm sure you were against it, but thats not a reason to elect you now. We can't go back in Time and correct any mistakes that we have made. What would you do to achive a peaceful resolution in Iraq? Do you have any idea on how to deal with radical millitant Islamic fundimentalism in regards to the danger it represents towards the rest of the world that do not share their beliefs?

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  63. Re:A "true" third party by feepness · · Score: 3, Interesting

    you must understand, now is not the time for social experiments regarding the feasibility of >2 parties running for president. Making politcal stances is fine, I mean - I hate Bush and John Kerry is a douche bag (but im voting for him anyways.com), but it's not worth having Bush for another 4 years, because let's face it -- republicans are lemmings that hear nothing else and are much less likely to take independent stances. It's a sad state of affairs we live in now, but we free-minded people must band together a defeat this buffoon monster.

    Take your statement. Switch the sides. You have exactly what some other of my friends believe.

    You have been taken in the professional wrestling match that the media has presented. They are both 99.99% the same. They also would ALWAYS have you believe "now is the not the time to experiment" because they would prefer to POSSIBLY lose to the other party than DEFINITELY lose to a third.

    Make your vote count! Vote Independent. Green, Libertarian, Freedom, WHATEVER!

    Vote for real change.

  64. Economics of Production and Consumption by sirbone · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Much of your campaign focuses on wealth distribution, and I agree with you that corporations have no rights, only actual people do. But what I have not been able to resolve with the Greens is the role corporations play in producing the goods and services that satisfy society's needs. The laws of economics prove that taxing wealth-creation (income taxes, dividend taxes, etc.) creates a disincentive for society to produce, and subsidizing consumption (of health care, etc.) creates an incentive to consume more. Before wealth can be distributed, it of course must first be created by someone. How do you get around this dilemma of decreasing production and increasing consumption as a side effect of wealth equalization? Do you have a plan to overcome the problem of distributing wealth without decreasing the amount of wealth produced for distribution?

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    "The State is that great fiction by which everyone lives at the expense of everyone else." -Frederic Bastiat.
  65. Re: wow... That was wierd. by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
    The Florida Supreme Court tried to apply alternate vote-counting rules not allowed under Florida law to ballots in specific counties.

    No. The Florida Supreme Court followed Florida law that the "clear intent of the voter" must be followed. SCOTUS said the Florida Supreme Court should have adopted "statewide standards for determining what is a legal vote" - they claimed that they wanted the Florida court to create law.

    And an impossible law at that, given the different (and biased) balloting systems in use in different counties. (Biased in that rich counties used systems less likely to fail to register a ballot - fewer Republicans had to deal with the chance of "hanging chad" blocking their vote.)

    This of course not considering the illegal disenfranchisement of thousands of voters, or the illegal "butterfly" ballots, or the failure of Scalia to recuse himself, or Cheney claiming to be a Wyoming resident depite living in Texas (electors can't vote for both a president and a vice president from their own state).

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  66. What about pebble beds? by sterno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about the new pebble bed reactor designs? The original generation of nuclear reactors were terribly complicated, required constant monitoring, and were almost by design, prone to accidents. New pebble bed reactors can be completely fail safe.

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  67. Allies in the Non-corporate parties by ProgressiveCynic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While watching your recent debate with Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik, I was struck by the fact that you seemed to agree with each other more often than not, and while there were some fundamental differences of opinion, you were both able to have a friendly, honest discussion on substantive issues, completely unlike the mainstream candidates' foaming rages against each other that seem orchestrated to cover up the fundamental lack of difference between their positions.

    While I'm sure this at least partially stems from neither of you having entrenched political positions to protect, it also mirrors my recent experience. I lean towards the Green platform, and I have many friends who are Libertarians. Our political discussions, while spirited, show some fundamental agreement on the kinds of urgent systemic change required in this country.

    My question to you is, do you see an opportunity to build consensus among those of us who see through the corporate oligarchy masquerading as democracy and focus on our areas of agreement rather than our differences? Specifically, would you support the Green party and the Libertarian party running joint drives in support of campaign finance reform, control of corporatism, ballot access and voting system reform?

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  68. Re: wow... That was wierd. by Captain+Segfault · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The biggest beef a lot of us have is the whole issue of the tens of thousands of people who were wrongly prevented from voting because they had the same name as a felon.

    Not to mention, this *HASN'T BEEN FIXED*.

  69. Shouldn't you be with the Dems? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since wishing it away is not going to end the two-party system at Presidential level, would it not be better if people of a 'green' persuasion were to try and influence policy from within the Democratic party?

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  70. Regulation by emotionus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With a deficit of 700 trillion dollars, do you think that what is essentially a socialist platform has a chance to provide the services you would like to? As president would you immediatly lobby to provide the federally funded social services outlined in your party platform or would you try to reduce the deficit and build wealth first? Or would you just tax the extreamly wealthy?

  71. Re:A "true" third party by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have a question related to the original poster's question:

    I very humbly think that the Iraq issue should be the starting point for the green party to finally become a strong, third US party. Your party was clearly opposed to the US/British invasion on Irak, while the Democrats were somehow shy in their criticism before the military actions started, and explicitly supported the so-called war afterwards. Shouldn't you be making it more clear that the two big parties are essentially the same, and that you represent a fundamentally different, actually progressive perspective ? Are you doing it ? What are your thoughts in this regard ?

  72. Three Contentious Technologies by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Here are three technologies which environmental groups have generally been opposed to, but which have undergone major advancements in recent years:
    • Nuclear energy.
    • High-temperature garbage incineration.
    • Genetically modified foods.
    All of these technologies have drawbacks, but they also have many advantages over the alternatives. Nuclear energy does not produce greenhouse gases, incineration destroys toxic chemicals and does not require land fill, and GM foods can greatly reduce the amounts of pesticide, herbicide, fertilizer, or water needed to grow food.

    What is the Green Parties' stance on these, and do you see them changing their stance in the near future?

  73. Re:What the hell... ? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative
    Despite the "appointed" crack, he was in fact elected by THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE, which is the vote that really counts in presidential elections

    Florida never sent a legitimate set of electors - that is, a set of electors selected according to Florida law - to the Electoral College.

    And, as others have repeatedly pointed out here before, every single credible attempt to count those so-called lost votes STILL ended up with Bush winning. Every-Single-Time.

    Statewide recounts show that Gore got more votes than Bush in Florida.

    Gore played bad politics by not demanding such a recount (in keeping with the Democratic party's generally poor play over the past few decades), and SCOTUS's decision wouldn't have allowed one (because, you know, it's not like the will of the people is supposed to count for anything), but that doesn't change the fact that more people in Florida cast ballots for Gore than Bush. (Not even counting the illegal disenfrachisment of thousands, or the tampering with absentee ballots, or the illegal "butterly" ballots).

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  74. Why the Presidency? by Onimaru · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is the same question I ask of all third party candidates and supporters, and I have yet to receive a good answer.

    Why the presidency? I have read your campaign materials and spoken with some of your representatives and the universal and overwhelming impression I get is that your party's agenda is almost entirely based around policy and the amendment of it or contribution to it. Given that that is the case, why are you standing a candidate for our country's foremost executive position? It would seem that since your goals are legislative in nature, you would be better served by standing candidates for election to those bodies, namely the House and Senate.

    The only answer I have been given to date is that it would be a good way to get the message out and apply the powers of the executive to support your agenda (by vetoing key policies, etc.) This is a basic abuse of the system, however, and there are more appropriate ways to go about it. I refuse to believe that your party's only reasoning in this election is to strong-arm Congress out of its Constitutional duty and to use media time granted the President for political gain on non-executive issues.

    So please, tell us, why are you standing for election to a post whose Constitutional duty is solely to put into effect the very policies which you find so abhorrent?

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  75. Cooperative Actions to Break Debate Stranglehold by bcapps2012 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has the Cobb/LaMarche campaign and the US Green Party considered cooperative efforts with Nader/Camejo (IND), Michael Badnarik (LIB), and Michael Peroutka (CON) to break the Commission on Presidential Debates' stranglehold on the debate process?

    Do you think that coordinated press conferences and press releases from all four campaigns regarding the issues raised by Open Debates and the Citizens' Debate Commission would have a beneficial long-term effect?

  76. Single Payer Healthcare by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You often point out that pretty much every developed western country except the US has some form of single payer healthcare, and I think it is a valid issue, worth dicussing. However, having lived in a few countries that operate such a system I have generally found the governments involved to be having difficulties sustaining the system.

    The dilemma amounts to this: as medical science continues to advance, and as we in general live longer and longer, the amount of things that can be done continues to expand, along with the costs involved with any new technologically advanced treatments. Because of this, the costs of providing complete healthcare continue to expand at a rate faster than we can pay for. With healthcare, if something is possible, people tend to demand that it be done, even if we do not have the resources to do it.

    Complete provision of healthcare simply isn't a sustainable practice as the costs are not proportionally bound by population (and hence very roughly speaking, government income), but instead by the ever expanding limits of medical science.

    How do you intend to deal with this dilemma? Do you only plan to provide single payer healthcare for core and emergency services only? Do you intend to allow a parallel private health system to provide the more expensive treatments?

    Thank you.

    Jedidiah.

  77. Single Transferable Vote voting system by vinsci · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you working actively to change the voting system to the Single Transferable Vote voting system, where voters are "safe" voting for a candidate they fear won't be elected? Assuming you support it, are the other U.S. players opposing it or in favor of it?

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  78. Colorado by Experiment+626 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is your opinion of the proposal in Colorado to award electoral votes proportionally to the popular vote? It would seem this could potentially be a great benefit to your party, firstly by making the state uninteresting to the Democrats and Republicans (it would only have one or two electoral votes in play instead of nine), and also by allowing third parties to win an electoral vote with only 11% of a state rather than needing a plurality across a state (or district). How signifigant would such a change be for your party? Of other changes to the voting system that have been proposed, such as approval voting, Borda counts, etc. which would you favor to improve the viability of third parties?

  79. 5% of the vote by UpsideUp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb, I voted for the green party in the last election, because I wanted to get you 5% of the vote, to help create a third party system. It seems like this election, you won't get anywhere near 5% of the vote, because democrats are so disillusioned with Bush and Republican are so concerned that their guy will lose. What is the goal of the Green Party in this election, raise awareness, publicity, fundraising.

  80. Your campaign and Nader's by br00tus · · Score: 2, Informative
    I work with the local Green party and followed the primary campaign where you were elected.

    For those who haven't followed this: The Green party is divided into two factions, the "realos" (also called the Demogreens) and the "fundis". The realos are who nominated Cobb. You can read about it in several places including the Counterpunch article "Rigged Convention; Divided Party - How David Cobb Became the Green Nominee Even Though He Only Got 12 Percent of the Votes". The fundis want to build our party and win elections, the realo/Demogreens are more concerned about the Democrats winning than the Greens. Cobb is a realo/Demogreen.

    The article makes the very good point that the states where there is a large green base and where voters actually voted in the primaries (California, Massachusetts, Washington DC), Camejo (who is a Green "fundi", and is now running as Nader's VP) got 72.7% of the vote. Cobb only got 12.2% of the vote. Nonetheless, in the Green version of the electoral college, Cobb managed to win due to delegates from states like Iowa voting for him. Iowa has 90 registered Greens and had 9 delegates to the Green convention - 1 delegate for every 10 Greens! California had 132 delegates for the over 150,000 registered Greens in California. So in the case of California, 1 delegate represented over 1,000 Greens. This sort of thing is how someone who got 12.2% of the vote (from Demogreens) versus 72.7% of the vote (fundis) nevertheless won the election.

    Cobb's candidacy has probably destroyed the Green party which is probably what the Demogreens wanted anyway. Anyhow, in some ways I am not sad to see it go because the Greens are a little too hippy-dippy granola and Birkenstocks anyhow. Nader attracted me to the Greens (even though he was never a Green party member) because he talked about things I care about like repealing Taft-Hartley and so forth which the DLC Democrats never talk about any more. 70% of white men in the US voted Republican in 2000, which tells you how far these DLC Democrats have drifted from the working class roots it had on some level in the early 20th century. Now they are all for NAFTA, screwing workers and so forth just like the Republicans, they're just for gay marriage, abortion and things conservative Christians in rural areas are against.

    The only solution for change I see is to do what happened in England a century ago - for militant rank-and-file run unions to be formed, and, if they find it strategically wise to do so, to form a Labor party like they did in England. It might not even be strategically wise to do so, but it would beat backing the Democrats if they were going to get into the electoral game.

    So my question goes back to what I was saying earlier: do you feel you are a legitimate Green candidate if most of the Greens in the country prefer Nader and Camejo to yourself? In many ways your election was like Bush's, except the majority vote went way against you instead of by a few percent.

  81. Social justice by morningdave · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have some questions about the second of the Green Party's Ten Key Values, "Social Justice and Equal Opportunity". As described on the Green Party's site:

    "All persons should have the rights and opportunity to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by society and the environment. We must consciously confront in ourselves, our organizations, and society at large, barriers such as racism and class oppression, sexism and homophobia, ageism and disability, which act to deny fair treatment and equal justice under the law."

    First, does the claim that all persons should have the right to benefit equally from resources imply that no person should have the right to benefit more than another from these resources? What, exactly, are these resources, and how are they afforded by society and the environment? What exactly do you mean by "benefit", and how do you propose to measure it, that you may ensure that nobody receives more than anybody else?

    Second, I'm a little concerned about the claim that we should confront all of these "isms" in society. Can racism, for example, even exist in society, or only in a person? While we can confront racism in anybody and everybody, can we really do anything about the racism that resides in another person? Is it perhaps possible to remove only the racism that is inside oneself? How does one reconcile the right of the citizens to equal protection under the law with the right of a person to his beliefs? Is government's proper business with action or with belief?

  82. Are you serious? by Arker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb. Given that you're on record saying you won't even vote for yourself if your state is close, how can anyone possibly take you seriously as a candidate for President? Given that it seems you won the nomination over Nader by taking this position, how can your party be seen as anything but an astroturf campaign for the Democrats?

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  83. The American Dream... by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Large powerful companies have a vested interest in keeping Americans consuming products and generating 3-10 times as much pollution and waste as anyone else in the world. Americans are taught from birth and continually reinforced by tv and society that stupid levels of excess at any cost is cool, including driving toy tanks (hummers) and eating so much that morbid obesity is the acceptable norm.

    How will you educate Americans to stop being so selfishly greedy and gain some of the same sense of proportion and responsibility that the rest of the world has, especially in the face of powerful self-serving political, business and religious groups?

  84. Would you sign the Kyoto Protocol? by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If not, why not?

  85. national relevance by drteknikal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What can the Green Party, or any third party do to make their candidates more relevant at the national level? Unless/until the national polls put a third-party candidate beyond potential "spoiler" numbers, as happened with Anderson in 1980 and Perot in 1992, the national media provide scant coverage. I think this exposure is critical to achieving relevancy, let alone victory.

    What can be done to coerce the media into covering third-party or independant candidates? Most people are unwilling to vote for a candidate they don't believe can win. Most identify canditates they haven't seen on the news as candidates that cannot win.

    Short of spending 30 years building a national party infrastructure from scratch to rival the Democrats or Republicans, what can be done? Does relevancy require infrastructure?

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  86. OT - well, kind of by mantera · · Score: 3, Insightful


    This isn't a question to the Green party candidate, but to the slashdot person(s) who organize these interviews; well, where are the interviews with Kerry and Bush?

    I would tend to think that a medium with the traffic and mindshare of slashdot, the credentials in terms of all the people it had interviewed in the past, the political nature of many of the issues discussed on slashdot in 2004, and the fact that these elections may prove to be a one in which every vote counts would be ver persuasive to them to respond. After all, and without meaning to disrespect other candidates, it's either one of those two that is going to be the next president of the US and "leader of the free world".

  87. Re:Proportional Representation by CarlDenny · · Score: 3, Informative

    The electoral college is not, technically, the cause of the winner-take-all system. That's a decision by the individual state governments on how to allocate their electors. Maine and Nebraska split their electors by district, so they're not (as) winner take all.

    Were every state government to do a parliamentary-esque division of their electors to each party by % of popular vote, the electoral college system could remain in place, and you'd ahve viable third party candidates. In fact, they'd have the power to give their votes to one major party or the other if there was no clear majority. Which would put the selection of president even farther away from the popular vote, and even more contingent on the decisions of select party leadership, but eh, whatcha gonna do?

    What the electoral college does do is allow for the possibility of a president who didn't win the popular vote, weigh the election in favor of the eastern seaboard's tiny states, and gaurantee that candidates have to campaign in every state, rather than focusing (as much) on the major population centers.

    Badnarik, the libertarian candidate, supports the electoral college system (look up his recent /. Q&A) because of this last reason (reducing the sway of large urban populations.)

  88. Re:Since Socialism Is a Proven Failure... by HeghmoH · · Score: 2, Informative

    Totalitarianism cloaked with the name of "Socialism" is a proven failure, but here in Europe, actual Socialism seems to be alive and well.

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  89. How do you avoid corruption? by kwiqsilver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's commonly accepted that power corrupts politicians. The Greens are always speaking out against politicians who sell favors to their corporate buddies or other special interests. But the Green party also espouses a system where the government strictly regulates most industry.
    How do you propose to have such strong government controlled regulation, without falling victim to the corruption inherent in a bureaucratic system?

  90. Ten Year Delay To Enact Taxation Changes by jayveekay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would you be in favor of a constitutional amendment that forces any taxation changes to be enacted 10 years prior to taking effect, so that citizens can make rational long term financial planning decisions and so that politicians can't pay off special interests by adding another hundred pages to this years laws that may or not last beyond the next election?

  91. Safe-State Strategy by stinerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr. Cobb, I would like to thank you for doing so much to help build the Green Party in Texas as well as across the entire USA.

    As a Green, I feel that the "Safe-State" strategy you advocate is detrimental to the process of keeping the Green Party growing. That is, if Greens fail to run in competitive elections and only run candidates in states/districts/etc. that are not competitive, how can the party continue to grow? Aren't you essentially advocating a watered-down version of "Anybody but Bush" by saying the Green Party should only campaign?

    In short, how does the "Safe-State" strategy translate into growing the Green Party?

    1. Re:Safe-State Strategy by stinerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Aren't you essentially advocating a watered-down version of "Anybody but Bush" by saying the Green Party should only campaign?

      Make that:

      Aren't you essentially advocating a watered-down version of "Anybody but Bush" by saying the Green Party should only campaign in states have been all but decided?

  92. Power Corrupts by abb3w · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'd like to ask you, especially as a presidential candidate from the Green Party, about the main problem of power: generating it. =)

    Oil is near or at the Hubbert peak for global production. Greens apparently are opposed to both fossil fuels and fission-based nuclear power. Hydrogen, while perhaps a viable storage mechanism, is not naturally available chemically unbound in measurable quantities, much less enough to constitute a fuel source. Modern American civilization is highly dependent on economical electricity and low-cost long range transportation of manufactured materials. And the Nixon era demonstrated the nasty effects of supply shocks on the economy, especially for something as fundamental as the cost of energy.

    Annual energy use in the United States is on the rough order of 100 quad. How would you propose that the United States continue to meet demand? Or, in three specific parts: What long-term technologies do you think we should pursue? What percentage reduction by conservation in the US annual energy use do you feel we should realistically try to achieve? And, most important, what technologies to you propose for use in the short term to sustain the supply needed (despite conservation) until whatever long-term technologies you plan for are successfully deployed?

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  93. giving more power to Government by noldrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You propose giving the government even more power over our lives and business while giving us more power over our government. How can you garrentee that we will be able to keep power over our government when we lost it once already?

  94. What do you think of the Free State Project by vkg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    which seeks to concentrate libertarian activism in a single state to effect major real changes in a localized area as a demonstration that Libertarianism can work.

    Do you think a similar push by Greens would work, and would would you personally move to a place where green activists chose to concentrate their presence?

  95. Peace in Iraq by BlueThunderArmy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    One of the most consistent and valid criticisms of the Bush administration right now is that it had no plan for peace in Iraq once the invasion had begun. While I and many left-leaning citizens opposed the war from the beginning, the fact is that we overthrew Saddam Hussein's government and are currently overseeing its replacement

    Your web site states that you advocate an "immediate withdrawal" of troops from Iraq. How would you propose to clean up the mess we've made in the region without a military presence? What do you see as the chances of survival of the current Iraqi government without America's support? And what do you believe would become of Iraq if this new government is overthrown or rendered irrelevant by popular uprising?

    Thank you very much for your time.

  96. Free Market by xeon4life · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, this is going to come from five weeks of education in my Intro. to Business and International Business courses, plus a video I watched on the success of Hong Kong:

    There are three types of economic systems: Free market, command economy, and mixed market. The US is a mixed market, not quite command, and not quite free market. What this means is that our businesses aren't dictated to by our government, but there's still government influence in almost everything a government does. Todays businesses are riddled with regulations, laws, and restrictions to the point that our economy is no longer efficient.

    To take an example: According to Wikipedia, Hong Kong [wikipedia.org] is the perfect example of a free market economy. "But wait," you might say. "Isn't Hong Kong in communist China?" And I would say to you, "Why, yes, it is." However, when Hong Kong began, about 50 years ago, it was agreed that "China's socialist economic system would not be practiced in Hong Kong and that Hong Kong would enjoy a high degree of autonomy in all matters" (Wikipedia). It's China's "little experiment" with capitalism. And, guess what? It's a thriving economy. People move from the US, Scotland, Japan, Australia, just to start a business in Hong Kong. It's success is due to it's limited government interaction. One paper is all one needs to start a business, and unlike in India where there is no guarantee your business will even be reviewed and approved, in Hong Kong, the paper is copied and stamped. Poof. Business started. There is a fixed tax for everything, only for government. There are no regulations. When did there ever need to be regulations, anyway?

    It's a simple theory. If a business produces diseased food, nobody will eat from there any longer. The business will go bankrupt and another business will fill it's place, the peoples needs. It that business begins abusing it's power and begins to charge too much, another will arise and fill the need. If people aren't limited by work hours they can work longer and get more pay for that TV they've wanted. If people just want to deliver a flippin newspaper for $4.00 an hour, they aren't denied the job because the employer can't pay the $6.00 minimum wage. It JUST WORKS.

    My question: What can the Green Party do to make this country more of a free market?

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  97. About cars by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Currently, the USA is hopelessly hooked-on automobiles. It is not conceivable that anyone would be able to live a comfortable life without an automobile.

    In addition of being quite destructive to the environment and making the US dependent on foreign oils, the automobile addiction is a prime source of economic disadvantage, because of the cost of operating an automobile (both the individual and the collective & social cost) is forcing salaries to be higher than in countries the USA is competing against.

    The recent outflux of high-tech jobs to third-world countries because salaries over there are cheaper is certainly a cause of the obligation for employers to subsidize the indispensable automobiles of their workers.

    Emerging countries want in some way or other to equal the US standard of living; this includes the obligatory automobile. Now, being quite doubtful that the planet Earth would be incapable of sustaining the BILLION additionnal automobiles that would be needed if China and India would raise their standard of living to match the US, it is quite obvious that, just for the reason of being the example everyone else wants to emulate, the USA would have to significantly decrease it's dependence on automobiles.

    What does the green party intend to do towards this inescapable goal?

  98. Re:Proportional Representation by pappy97 · · Score: 2, Informative

    " The electoral college is largely the cause of a two party state in America. It's basically a first past the post winner take all system which punishes extremely heavily any votes for parties which are not the outright winners or potentially outright winners in elections. There is simply no point voting for any party which is not likely to receive 35%+ of the popular vote."

    Sorry buddy, you are flat out WRONG. The electoral college is not to blame for winner take all states. That is up to the states.

    You see, under the US Constitution, it is up the state legislature to determine how electors for the college will be chosen. 48 states have decided, ON THEIR OWN, to allow direct election for those electors in a winner take all system.

    Frankly, each state could take away it's citizens "right" to vote for President, and simply chose their electors.

    None of the problems you mention have ANYTHING to do with the Electoral College, but rather the fact that the states have abused the right to given to them in the constitution to decide how electors are chosen. Therein lies the problem. Blame the states, not the Electoral College.

    And how about actually READING the Constitution before yapping about the Electoral College being the problem?

  99. Preference Voting by w1z7ard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do you feel that the voting system is inherently crippling the strength of 3rd parties such as yours? Do you think implementing a preference voting system would significantly increase the number of votes for 3rd parties?


    For slashdot readers:
    Preference voting is a sytem where you rank each candidate by whom you would prefer to win most.

    Example:
    A ballot might like look this:
    1. Cobb
    2. Bush
    3. Kerry

    Suppose that the ballots were collected and they count all the votes in the number one slot. The candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated from the list. Now we have:
    1. Bush
    2. Kerry

    The process is repeated until one name is left on the list. It is clear that this voting system reduces down to our current one, save that there is no "throwing away of the vote".

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  100. you get ONE vote... by zogger · · Score: 2, Informative

    .... and if you vote for whom you really don't want, then it's wasted, because you lied. Lied. You voted a lie. And we been electing lies for a long time now, e-vile lies and the liars who tell them.

    Been hearing apologetic statist dumbasses like you for close to half a century. Half a freeking century. WAKE UP! Stop repeating lies! People have been so brainwashed into "not wasting their votes" that they have WASTED THEIR VOTES voting in Ds and Rs over and over and over and over again, and GUESS WHAT? It's the same old crap! Vote for D&R crap, get D&R crap! How simple does it need to be, how many clues you need?

    Every election if enough people voted for non-crap, the NEXT election gets MORE non-crap votes, and less crap votes. See how that works? It builds from there. Tedious, but how it works, and it takes every single person who's aware of it to do it to make it effective. It has to be consistent. A vote for a third party is THAT, you are not voting for anything but that. You will NEVER get anything but a D or R if you keep voting for a D or R. NEVER. Not one time will a D or R vote get you any political action except what Ds and Rs always do, which is screw you, screw me, screw the other guy, stuff their pockets and lie to you every chance they get. Get it yet? El comprehende?

    There will never be any magical time where all at once everyone will switch, NOPE, it needs to build momentum, a tiny amount at a time, and that momentum comes from one-single-vote. You only get one chance every election to add to that momentum, so make it count!

    We also need a miniuum number so that third parties can be GUARANTEED TO BE ON THE BALLOT every cycle, so they don't have to waste their resources time and money just to get on the ballot. Ds and Rs are automatic! We need to break that! They don't own government, but they have seized control. It's not theirs to own! It's a freeking shared junta, a criminal cartel for profit. They need to be on the ballot in all 50 every election so we can DEMAND they be included in debates and SHAME the news media into more coverage than just Ds or Rs.

    Here's an analogy, it's exactly like "stop using linux, you are "wasting your desktop and time", because next week everyone WON'T be using linux! See how retarded that sounds? Same exact deal with politics. You have to be consistent and relentless. Re-lent-less and not be dissuaded from your goal, not be pressured into this "lesser of evils" crapola. Evil is evil, there is no "lesser" and if you had been watching long enough you'd realise that.

    You have to build critical mass, and it's ONE VOTE AT A TIME, EVERY TIME, going for a third party or an independent. It WON'T MATTER that much if skull and bones millionaire globalist lying scheming goon A or skull and bones globalist lying scheming goon B "gets in power" this cycle, not near as much as if the numbers of non D or R votes keep steadily rising every election, from local dogcatcher all the way to prez. BOTH those dunderheads are A-liars, first and foremost, and B globalists who care not a whit about you, and C-actors and script readers, they get told what to say and when to say it, and D, most importantly D-they are puppets. Marionettes. They are figureheads of the real powers that are behind the seat of power, and you got to not vote for that sorta action, for any reason, its anathema to what this nation was designed for.

    The only "wasted" vote is one THAT IS NOT CAST.

  101. 3rd parties have had a HUGE impact in Canada by edsterino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Canadian politcs has always been dominated by the right wing Progressive Conservative party (PC) and the usually-left wing Liberals. In 1986, the very conservative Reform Party of Canada came out of nowhere. By 93, they had taken so much support from the PCs that the liberals were completely unchallenged til just this year's elections when the two parties merged - with a Reform Party member as leader.

    Now a *5th* party is picking up on the left -- the Greens. In the 2004 elections, they received enough votes to qualify for federal funding. This is huge. Apart from the cash, this will make it harder for them to be denied a place in debates and in news stories et al.

    In a few more election cycles, the Greens may even gain official status, particularly given the frequency of elections being won by voting against very unpopular leaders.

    It's a shame Reform and the PCs merged. Strong alternatives on both the left and the right would have made for something resembling a true democracy. (The other parties are the "New Democratic Party" just now coming back from the dead and the Bloc Quebecois, the Quebec separatist party).

  102. Attitude adjusted? by SavoWood · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a Green, and have been since I was introduced to the ideology in Germany. After my return to the US, I was happy to find the Green party growing, although not to the level we had in the Old World.

    Recently, I took the test at Political Compass, and you came in as a great match for me. I wasn't surprised at all. I've often held firm to the Green ideal. I was happy to see the Greens here were similar to the party in Germany.

    Then, I saw the 3rd Party Debates on C-Span. You came across as bitter, mean, and just plain angry. I can understand your anger, but presentation is key and after seeing that display, I was almost ashamed.

    Were you instructed to come across that way? Did your consultants direct you to come across as an angry bitter person? Hopefully you'll change your personal presentation. It really drives people away. I was completely turned away from the party although I still hold the ideals. I'm experiencing a real Catch 22 here.

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  103. A straightforward question by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 2

    What bills would you have vetoed in the first place if you had been the president in the previous years?

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  104. Reform Elections to give Third Parties a Chance? by blackwizard · · Score: 2

    For hundreds of years, the people of the United States of America have voted for our president in such a way that the views and interests of the majority of the people do not necessarily align with the views and interests of our president. The very idea that the people must choose one, and only one, person that represents their views and interests is fundamentally flawed.

    In a democracy, voters should not be deterred from voting for a third party simply because by doing so they are "voting for the opposition". People should be free to vote their conscience instead of going with the most popular party line that is closest to their views, or choosing the lesser of two evils.

    Using technology available today, a voting system could be developed that would allow candidates to be ranked in order of preference, so that the peoples' most preferred candidate always wins. What is the Green party's stance on reform like this, and what would it take to push such reform through the top levels of our government?

  105. Top Three Priorities by sjanich · · Score: 2

    What would be the top 3 priorities of a David Cobb presidency?

  106. US Intelligence Community by sjanich · · Score: 2

    There is much public policy discussion regarding changing or reforming the US Intelligence Community. What are your views on this? What changes, if any, to you propose.

  107. Foreign Policy Question by sjanich · · Score: 2

    As president, what will your foreign policy grand strategy be?