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Really Stylish PCs and Peripherals

knipknap writes "With Christmas lying ahead I decided it was time to present myself new PC hardware. Of course, nothing can be good enough for my Linux box, so I ran looking for some really nice cases - but was soon disappointed by the very little options available when it comes to stylish cases. There is the very nice Hoojum Nanode, which is for Nano-ITX boards only, while I was looking for more powerful alternatives. Then there was the Cubit P4, also from Hoojum, which seemed to suit my needs. I ordered one via mini-itx.com, but unfortunately they messed up the order and noticed only after it was already sold out... so there went my last option. I was also recommended Hush (I already own one) and Shuttle, both of which I found looking kind of cheap. Another problem seems to be finding good peripherals - I have not found a single higher quality mouse and keyboard outside the plastic computer world. So I decided to ask Slashdotters - which other options are there available?" Personally I love the Hush box.

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  1. try a mac by sachins · · Score: 1, Informative

    mac's are really good looking if u r considering that as a option...also u can put ur linux on the mac box

    1. Re:try a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      About the same way you put it on a PC box, downlad an appropriate ISO, burn it to a cd, and boot from it.

    2. Re:try a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You can install Yellow Dog Linux or compile Gentoo yourself to run it on nearly any Apple Computer. I've personally done it one PowerMac G5s and a PowerBook G4, works very well if you really don't like Mac OS X, but I prefer it.

    3. Re:try a mac by gkuz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently they don't teach you how to spell, though.

    4. Re:try a mac by sachins · · Score: 1

      yes but if u r going in for style, always mac os x is far better, it transparent menus and cool animations will blow everyone off.

    5. Re:try a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Na, you don't even have to download an iso, try debians netinstall. You download only the kernel and a small image to boot from. Put that on the partition you later want to install GNU/Linux on, and boot. Therefore, you don't even have to burn a cd!! Donwload, copy to target partition, go.

    6. Re:try a mac by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try using things like capitalization, pronouns, and verbs. This is not IRC, k1dd13.

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    7. Re:try a mac by jessecurry · · Score: 1

      unfortunately when it comes to defining "good looking" and "stylish" the only measure we really ever can have is popular belief, you anonymous coward :)

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    8. Re:try a mac by ztirffritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I'm a Mac user, I can in no way endorse Linux on the Mac...yet. I ran Yellow Dog Linux on my old iMac for almost a year, and it worked great, but there were very few options for pre-compiled software. There was one guy, I think in Germany, that was turning out about 60% of the software that I used. It was reliable, and TerraSoft supported it well, but being a niche within a niche is just begging for trouble.

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    9. Re:try a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      oic. macs r great

    10. Re:try a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Eh, Linux on the Mac is fun from the hobbyist perspective:

      90%+ (invented figure, can't be far from true) of Linux users are on the x86 platform. As a result, most of the developers are also on said platform.

      Installing it on the Mac, getting it to work, feels more like installing Linux on an x86 box from a few years ago: It takes work. Satisfying work.

      And then, once you finally get it all working, you realize that OSX kicks ass anyway, and never boot to Linux again.

      At least, that's how it was for me.

      My x86 box now runs Debian Testing, my Mac runs OSX. It will be a long time before anyone convinces me I need XP on my computer, and an even longer time until someone convinces me I want Linux over OSX.

    11. Re:try a mac by arpy · · Score: 1

      Mac OS X will "blow everyone off"? Can't believe that Apple didn't advertise that feature!

    12. Re:try a mac by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because on Macs, the spell-checking software actually works.

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    13. Re:try a mac by beeblebrox87 · · Score: 1

      Debian is pretty trivial to install on a Mac these days. Pretty much all of debian main is available for ppc from apt. You can apt-get things and they Just Work. On OSX, to get most software you have to futz around with fink and then wait for things to compile like a gentoo user or something. That and most packages require porting to work on OSX, whereas they will usually compile fine on any Linux architecture. Everything is in the same place as it is under x86 Linux, no dealing with netinfo and dynlib and other OSX weirdness. Overall I greatly prefer Linux on my iBook to OSX and I'm thinking about trashing my OSX partition entirely.

    14. Re:try a mac by hahiss · · Score: 1

      I've been using linux on my iBook for several years now, and I generally prefer it to OS X. (Admittedly, OS X ran slowly on my iBook given its specs.)

      The politics of free software aside, I find that having the choice of window managers is pretty important to me. I really don't want much eye candy anymore, and I've come to really love discarding the mouse as much as possible. I started using Ratpoison as a window manager, but have since made the switch to Window Manager Improved---which works precisely as I want.

      This isn't to say that others would prefer the OS X model for working; I just find the interface of OS X to get in the way more often than it helps.

      And finding & installing software on Linux-PPC is only occassionally problematic. I'd highly recommend it to anyone with older (heck even with newer!) software.

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    15. Re:try a mac by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Let me shoot a couple questions at ya:

      - Have you compared battery life under Mac OS X vs linux (any difference?)?
      - Does airport work under linux?
      - Does suspending work properly under linux (close lid = zzZz)?

      Any response would be highly appreciated! :)

    16. Re:try a mac by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Macs have pretty nice cases... until you decide to do some upgrades - then you find out that the really big case has no place to put anything.

      To be fair though, I can't say any of the major PC manufacturers are any better in terms of expandability. But any true geek builds their own PC anyway.

    17. Re:try a mac by jrockway · · Score: 1

      I run full screen X on mine when I'm doing development stuff. Black background with two xterms and emacs... and twm! (My friend claims that I am the only person on Earth that would buy a Powerbook just to run xterm.)

      Sometimes my brain needs a break from all the eye candy (and the clock and CPU meter... just the emacs, thanks).

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    18. Re:try a mac by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      Are you sure about that? My G4 desktop came with one hard drive and one optical drive, but it now has three hard drives and two optical, all internal. I've also added an Adaptec SCSI card and a PCI card with additional USB 2.0 and Firewire ports. I still have room for one more hard drive and have two free PCI slots.

      With room for six IDE devices standard, this Mac actually is actually more expandable than any x86 motherboard I've owned.

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    19. Re:try a mac by vettemph · · Score: 2, Funny
      capitalization
      "Helping your uncle jack off a horse"
      vs.
      "Helping your Uncle Jack off a horse."

      I just saw that in someones sig.

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    20. Re:try a mac by grrrl · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Also try correct commas in lists, lists and more lists.

    21. Re:try a mac by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Remember, Apple has "pro" and "home" computers. Any "tower" is very expandable, but the iMac is not.

    22. Re:try a mac by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

      Macs have pretty nice cases... until you decide to do some upgrades - then you find out that the really big case has no place to put anything.

      You should get a Shuttle mini-ATX case; they're like Dr Who's TARDIS.
      On the outside they're really small and on the inside they're full of crap.

    23. Re:try a mac by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      Then you're getting real crap PC cases. I've got a case here which has room for 4 hard drives, 2 3.5" removable media drives which can also be used for hard drives, and 4 5.25" removable media drives which can also be used for internal storagewith suitable adapters. Thus, stock, my PC has room for 10 IDE devices and has 5 pci slots. Finally, new macs only have room for one optical storage device, any more and you need to get external cases which adds more complexity and opportunity for failure.

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    24. Re:try a mac by IngramJames · · Score: 1

      Also try correct commas in lists, lists and more lists.

      Ah.. but the Oxford comma is also valid in lists, as it helps distungish the last item in the list:

      "To my parents, Mary and God"

      as opposed to:
      "To my parents, Mary, and God"

      The latter does not seem to be claiming descent from a deity - but only with an Oxford comma.

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    25. Re:try a mac by zojas · · Score: 1

      i'm pretty sure suspend works on all macs with ati video chips now. search on the gentoo linux ppc forum for the specific hardware you're interested in. (you don't have to install gentoo linux, but there you should be able to determine the current state of the pmu drivers)

      airport works great, airport extreme doesn't work. (no specs released, so no driver)

      battery life is the same in either OS.

      i have an ibook g3 700MHz, it will sleep as fast in Linux as in os x, and will wake up faster in Linux than in OS X.

    26. Re:try a mac by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info!
      I was especially worried about power mgmt not working properly.
      Guess I'll do the switch someday when I've had enough OSX eyecandy.

      Right now it's still bearable but the lack of proper window management (cant alt-tab through individual terminals, alt-lmb = drag doesnt work) and the quierky keyboard layout (no del-key, backslash and pipe in awkward positions on german layout) are pretty annoying...

    27. Re:try a mac by smacktits · · Score: 1

      >> Try using things like capitalization, pronouns, and verbs. This is not IRC, k1dd13. Most places I frequent on IRC would immediately excommunicate a person for such horriffic prose (:

    28. Re:try a mac by zojas · · Score: 1

      yep. I started running 'screen' inside one terminal window. :)

  2. ThinkGeek by rzebram · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look at some of ThinkGeek's peripherals. I particularly like their mini wireless mice, though those are more for laptop applications. They carry some really nice Logitech keyboards and mice which are both stylish and functional.

    1. Re:ThinkGeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Don't even bother going there. If you're looking for the most stylish keyboard/mouse combo, then look no further than the Logitech diNovo. Sure it runs $250 but I've never worked with a better keyboard, ever. You may have problems getting the bluetooth to work on a linux box(since it's a bluetooth set) but it's absolutely amazing when you use it.

    2. Re:ThinkGeek by Lussarn · · Score: 1

      You can run the diNovo keyboard in USB mode. Just enable Legacy USB in BIOS. I don't know if the mouse works this way though, I don't use it because of it's bad update frequency (80hz).

  3. Nice by detrino · · Score: 1

    Ultra expensive 1Us

  4. Jeantech by dappleyard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Personally, I love the Jeantech cases - I use a Visco myself (www.jeantech.com)

  5. For nano-itx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Look at this case:

    http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc07.htm

    1. Re:For nano-itx by BJH · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'd think it looks quite nice if it weren't for that HUGE FUGLY LOGO on the front.

  6. to be cool and stylish... by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...i suggest a nifty ergenomic dvorak keyboard, you can get it on ebay fer a bit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cate gory=51083&item=5149151249&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW theres always alienware et al, altho im not certain you can get just a case... i also suggest getting a wireless gyro mouse. again, i suggest ebay as a good source for one of them pretty cheap.

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    1. Re:to be cool and stylish... by CptSkippy · · Score: 1
      ...i suggest a nifty ergenomic dvorak keyboard, you can get it on ebay fer a bit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cate gory=51083&item=5149151249&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


      Only that isn't. Dvorak Layout
    2. Re:to be cool and stylish... by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      its "dvorak ready"

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  7. Mac by lachlan76 · · Score: 1
    Two other options that come to mind:
    1. Get a Mac
    2. Get a Mac off ebay, and mod the case to put a PC in. I have never tried this though, it may or may not be possible.
  8. Vintage look by spac3manspiff · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or you can always go for the old school look.
    http://www.teschke.de/heatpipes/i-1.jpg

    1. Re:Vintage look by BJH · · Score: 1

      Funny you should say that - I was thinking of buying the black version of that case (it's an early Lian-Li, if I'm not mistaken) when I put together my 400MHz dual-PII box with a Matrox G200 and a Voodoo2 12MB 3D card, back in 1997 or so.

      Unfortunately, when I had a look at the real thing I found it rather cheaply made.

    2. Re:Vintage look by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      I used to work with one of those, it was old even then and most of the front casing had fallen off ( like in that image ) so I could rest cups of tea and coffee on the bottom drive in the case.

  9. Mac, Mac, Mac by ThisNukes4u · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone seems to be suggesting to go with a Mac. Well, if I were you, I would take a half-way decent case and mod it. Chop off the back if it is too long, put some plexiglass on the side, stencil on the side, whatever floats your boat. Much more unique than the standard Mac, and you'll have fun making it too.

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    1. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by computerme · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've seen what passes as "mods" of PC.

      Cripes. Purple glow in the dark strips. "See thru cases" ooohh...

      It reminds me of the honda civic fan boys who lower their car and put blue glow things around the license plates.

      Eeeekk.. I guess this is where i have to say, to each his own... but.. shudders....

      Elegance is not a MOD.

    2. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by ThisNukes4u · · Score: 1

      I'm not talking about neon lights and glow-in-the-dark paint and that kind of stuff that is just a waste of money, just making the case yours instead of a mass-produced box.

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    3. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Stencils, plexiglass? Computer cases shouldn't be the third-rate crafts projects that they usually are. Might as well rice a car while you are at it.

    4. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by 33degrees · · Score: 1

      You know, the kind of case moding you're describing has never struck me as nice looking, especially compared to the newer macs. To me it's like telling someone whose trying to decide between a bmw and a mercedes that he should just get a civic and add a spoiler and some neon running lights; it's really incomparable.

    5. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by legirons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Everyone seems to be suggesting to go with a Mac. Well, if I were you, I would take a half-way decent case and mod it. Chop off the back if it is too long, put some plexiglass on the side, stencil on the side, whatever floats your boat."

      The problem always is, if you get a modded case, you still have a big messy pile of "technical crap" behind your desk, whereas if you get a Mac, you just have a shiny white thing.

      Is it even possible to get a PC case whose back-panel doesn't look like some 1940's telephone exchange? The PC case itself may look cool (for various definitions), but when you add external modems, USB cables and hubs everywhere, "wireless" mouses that need a cable from the PC to their base-station, and enough power cords to start your own distribution company, the Mac will still have just the one power cable (and even the non-iMacs have just one lead to the monitor)

      Thing is, there are all these people talking about "modified" PC cases, but all their creations are the same 17x7x19" box at the side of their desk, or a Mini-ATX case almost overbalanced by the weight of cables sprouting from it. Putting a window, neon-light, and hovercraft engine into your PC case isn't innovative in any sense of the word, nor is airbrushing some Doom3 screenshot onto it...

      Nothing personal... ;) just want to see a decent PC design sometime.

    6. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by Inconnux · · Score: 2, Informative

      Macs == Elegance? most people I know think macs look stupid. Just a way to reach out to the 'artsy' crowd to get them to pay more and get less... Wanna be original? design your own case. I built an oak desk with plexiglass top, holds two systems inside, much nicer looking than a bubble with lcd attached.

    7. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by caino59 · · Score: 1

      it's a damn shame the [H]forums are down - there's some threads there with truly bitchin mods, especially for the recent releases of doom and half life....

    8. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by caino59 · · Score: 1

      ah hell...forgot to add...

      i think the point is - not everyone can mod a case - however, if you're willing to pay - there are people that do custom cases for people..

    9. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by 0racle · · Score: 1

      You don't look like a computer enthusiast without more cables then you have devices.

      Cables are the price you pay for a generic lump of computer that is the PC. My Suns have hardly any, my little Mac has very little, but one PC has more then all of them put together. Cable Management is the end users problem, but all it takes is a little bit of planning and a rip to the hardware store where there are several things that can be used to secure, protect and hide these cables.

      Any PC mod I've done isn't much of a mod at all, mainly just repainting so I don't have ugly ass beige boxes, some machines I cut some holes for fans if I was worried about their current cooling but a machine thats been painted to fit in with the decor is much nicer. I did paint the BSD demon on the side of one of my FreeBSD boxes though.

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    10. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      Actually, I like the look of the pro macs - the G5 and such. The emac is a stupid looking toy, and the imac looks like a desk lamp. But the G5 is pretty sharp looking - simple elegance.

      Mind you I have a Thermaltake Case, so that says a lot about me as a nerd :)

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    11. Re:Mac, Mac, Mac by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      Hahaha.... New iMac? Where the hell was I?? Wholly shit!

      Ooops!

      =D

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  10. Make your own by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doing your own case mods is something that requires time, patience, and some money, but there's nothing that you buy that compares the final product.

    My favorite is my Fossil computer, which is a Victorian beauty of brass and wood. I've also done the "all black" computer before black became the new beige. I also dallied with a Lego computer, though the innards finally died.

  11. Clear PC = Bad Deal by Omega1045 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I usually would not say anything, but I had such an incredibly horrible experiece with ClearPC that I am going to comment.

    I wanted to buy a clear acrylic case for a PC I was buidling, and decorate it with neon wires (one reseller). I went ahead and purchased from ClearPC, a Canadian company (actually, just some guy, but read on).

    I was told the case would be packaged in a safe way, so it would arrive undamaged. When it did arrive, several parts were broken, and some extras I ordered like LED fans, etc, were just missing.

    After 6 months of constantly trying to get a response from ClearPC, I finally got some of the broken parts replaced and some of the missing parts (I still did not have everything I need for a full case, nor all the parts I ordered).

    I just gave up, but swore I would tell anyone looking for a cool case that ClearPC is a horrible vendor with horrible customer service. I usually live and let live, but this is a very special case for me. I will not put their URL here, no need to give them a free link. But if you find yourself on a case site offering clear cases ending in ".ca", just keep on surfing. BTW, this is not a dis on Canada at all, it just happens that this company is there or I probably would have at least taken them to small claims court and tried to get them blocked from doing business in my state.

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    1. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      thanks for the info, I live within 8 miles of ClearPC's retail outlet. As a proud Canadian I hate to see anybody here take advantage of americans or anybody else. I'll be making a late night visit there very soon with a brick (note attached) as a payback for their incompetancy.

    2. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by raventh1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why not just ship it back and demand your money back, or a replacement?

    3. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by Omega1045 · · Score: 1

      Not to be rude, but you don't think I tried that? They said they would give no refund.

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    4. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by Jahf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Next time:

      1) buy with a credit card that has purchase protection

      2) don't give the vendor 6 months (the longer goes by the less chance of getting the purchase protection invoked)

      3) document the condition and any attempts made to remedy it

      If done properly (you need to check your credit card policies, don't just assume they'll cover it) it won't matter what the vendor says, the credit card will pay you back and often will remove the money from the vendor's account.

      My sister just got scammed on Ebay (her first purchase, $300 which is a big deal for her, and looking at the seller's feedback I wouldn't have had any worry about buying from him). She is probably going to get bitten because she paid with a debit card (charged as a credit, but not all debit cards provide credit style transaction) and didn't go through PayPal even though the seller accepted it, so no PayPal protection.

      Simply put ... it is one of life's hard lessons but you have to protect yourself before doing remote transactions.

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    5. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by Omega1045 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the advice. The truth is that I am just too trusting and have always had really good luck with online purchases. I now purchase everything with my PayPal or a CC that I know has protection.

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    6. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by FGOL · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I own the brand name, ClearPC (www.clearpc.ca). We modify each case we build, on demand by our customers. Basically, it's a very small operation involving about 6 people. (As a comparison, I once read that Beantech had 500 employees). I pack each case in a generous helping of bubblewrap and then each case is placed on a layer of styrofoam "peanuts" top and bottom. The case is placed in a double walled cardboard box for added secuity and sealed with a security tape for tampering. Our cases enter the USA and are subject to inspection by customs but this is rare as customs knows us quite well. There have been problems with FEDEX damaging a parcel but the ratio in 2004 is 9 for every 500 cases shipped. If a case arrives damaged, we put in for an insurance claim and ship the customer a new case after the damaged one has been picked up by FEDEX. We don't make you wait for a claim (which is 30 days for us), we ship a new case as soon as the new one is available and that at our cost. We only ship ground because of the costs to ship from here. It's about $22. I have to seriously question your comments about "waiting 6 months" and "trying to get a response." That just doesn't happen here. Every case I build is built with a uni-body construction so you're case is shipped "complete" with a package of parts for mounting. There really isn't all that much that can be missing so I don't really understand the reference to a "full case" not being shipped. Only Sunbeam and Beantech build cases with a lot of "pieces." My case is built mostly from a single sheet of acrylic, wrapped and rounded over onto itself. I use 8 acorn nuts, 4 to fasten the side panel and 4 to fasten the removable front section -- that's it so there isn't too much to go wrong there. The rest of the case is bonded together. If you have a problem that you are pissed about, contact me at info@clearpc.ca My customer service is responsive and it's built on respect, 1 case at a time. I don't ship tens of thousands of units: I am the orange county choppers of acrylic case modding. Each case is hand built with some CNC and built to customer spec.. I don't fohk around when it comes to my cases, expletives aside. If you have a problem, I will fix it. Email me and we'll talk.

    7. Re:Clear PC = Bad Deal by Darren+Winsper · · Score: 2, Funny

      It looks like you've modded your enter key to the point where it no longer works.

  12. Felines? Fruit? Surgery? by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    There is the very nice Hoojum Nanode,

    What's with all the cats and fruit and stuff? In one picture, you've got a hand in a surgical glove, placing a whole pineapple on top of the Nanode. In another, you've got a cat in what appears to be orgasmic throes.

    I'm sure it's clever marketing that's just over my head, but...

    1. Re:Felines? Fruit? Surgery? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      not to mention the case itself looks like some kind of helpful kitchen gadget peddled on very late night shopping channels. "the ronco zip-seal plastic wrapper. seals your produce tight for easy freezer storage!..."

  13. Lian-li by currivan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lian-li makes some nice atx cases. The one I have, the pc-v1000, looks a lot like a g5 with the drilled aluminum front. Zalman makes an absurdly expensive (~$1400) aluminum case indended for fanless cooling. Most of the decent-looking cases I came across were flat and designed for home theater applications.

    As for peripherals, I don't think you'd actually want a metal mouse or keyboard in the long run. Logitech makes a nice looking high-end wireless keyboard with detachable number pad for about $200, and I like the way their mx700 mouse looks.

    1. Re:Lian-li by Fishead · · Score: 1

      Check out In-Win cases. The name is somewhat lacking, but the cases are realy nice to work with. Everything is well build, no sharp edges, pieces slide out for mounting, and they are affordable too. You can get a nice one for ~$100 CDN.

      If you want flashing lights, and really cheap with a nice PS, check out the Raidmax Scorpio. ~$70 CDN with a 420W powersupply. Be warned though, lots of sharp edges. One piece in particular is REALLY good at slicing open the back of your hand when you are trying to connect the drive cables.

      Chris.

    2. Re:Lian-li by didde · · Score: 2, Informative
    3. Re:Lian-li by RevDobbs · · Score: 1

      Skin heals, so I couldn't care less... drive cables, however, don't. I had a SCSI tape drive that kept spitting out random errors, and the best I could track it to was a nicked control cable. And if you insisit on screaming "Bull shit!", the problem went away after swapping it out.

    4. Re:Lian-li by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1

      Thumbs up on the Lian Li. The high end ones are stupidly expensive (I paid CDN$300 for mine (photos),) but they are beautiful, functional and well designed.

  14. The shark... by e133tc1pher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Thermaltake shark http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/shark/black/b lack.htm is one of the nicest cases I've ever seen. It is designed with water cooling in mind and it is made practically "tool-less".

    1. Re:The shark... by SpooForBrains · · Score: 1
      I spent several frustrating hours battling with a thermaltake server case that my colleague had thought it would be a good idea to supply to a customer. I hope I never have to deal with one of these again. Some of the various problems I encountered:
      • The drives are fitted using special sliding runners so that you can just click and slide the drives out. Great idea, unfortunately for the four bays the case had they only saw fit to supply two sets of runners
      • The aforementioned runners didn't fit on the DLT drive I was trying to fit. I had to get my leatherman out and hack away two of the nubs on each side that are meant to fit into the screw holes
      • the screwless PCI card holders are fiddly and wont close on certain cards with unusual profiles, for exaple the Adaptec LVD SCSI card that I needed to fit
      • the power switch actually popped out of its holder and fell into the case. I had to scrape several layers of skin off reaching round the side of the case to get it back in. If I didn't have fairly small hands I would have been SOL
      • the entire frontage of the case has a nasty habit of coming off completely
      • oh yeah, and dare I forget, all the multitudinous fans and sensor equipment in the case took up most of the available power connectors from the PSU. There wasn't enough spare to power two devices, let alone four.
      Maybe the case I experienced was just unnecessarily stupid but I certainly hope never to encounter a thermaltake case again.
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  15. Duh, PU Foam! by aardwolf204 · · Score: 1

    You know, nothing says stylish like a polyurethan foam case. I hear they're big with the ladies too!

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    1. Re:Duh, PU Foam! by ockegheim · · Score: 1

      That's brilliant! In a fluffy sort of way.

      There are some sites I just can't work out how anyone at all has found them. Googling "polyurethan foam" "computer case" "floats on water" perhaps?

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  16. The Rotten Apple - by thewldisntenuff · · Score: 1

    I saw this mac case mod awhile back in Maximum PC, I think. Guy took a G4 tower and crammed non-mac hardware inside....They called it the Rotten Apple. Nice paint job as well. Take a look, it at HardOCP -

    http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzUx

  17. Re:Mac by rampant+mac · · Score: 1
    "Get a Mac off ebay, and mod the case to put a PC in. I have never tried this though, it may or may not be possible."

    Search ebay for B&W or Quicksilver cases, you can sometimes pick them up fairly cheap. The cases are really nice, very sturdy, but you'll have to do some modifications to get the motherboard inside.

    Check out how this guy did it.

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  18. Stylish Keyboard by Pyrophin · · Score: 1

    Ye ole IBM Model M http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cate gory=4706&item=5148124982&rd=1 the best keyboard to this day, durable as anything and makes this awesome "click" when you press the keys. Tactile typing at its best! And for mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse optical ~Phin

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    1. Re:Stylish Keyboard by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I've tried out the old style click-matic, and don't see the point. All it gets are buttons that are needlessly hard to press, needlessly loud, and a good keyboard can be tactile and not click-omatic.

    2. Re:Stylish Keyboard by PBKing · · Score: 1

      Gotta agree with you. Typing on one now. It just feels right. I hoard them from yard sales and auctions just in case this one ever goes out . . .

    3. Re:Stylish Keyboard by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!!

      At last! Someone else who shares my views on that horribly overrated keyboard!

      Let's get married and have kids.... erm, no, on second thoughts that wouldn't work since I'm a guy.

      Let's just form an anti-Model M organisation instead and seek to eradicate this nostalgia propoganda! We could start by hoarding a great pile of them, and setting fire to it, releasing tons of carcinogenic toxins into the atmosphere.

      Seriously, I never understood the point of that noisy keyboard with a pressure-point halfway down the travel like that. I actually prefer the cheapish membrane keyboards (well, within reason).

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    4. Re:Stylish Keyboard by Datafage · · Score: 1

      I'm with you guys; I like a silent keyboard with definite feel when a key has been pressed but not a huge effort. I truly want to tell all the people here who say they need a Model M to know when a key has been pressed that I'm sorry they have almost no sensation left in their fingers. Anyway, down with the Model M!

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  19. Stylish or not... by News+for+nerds · · Score: 4, Funny

    It looks delicious (and this by the same company).

  20. Cooler Master WaveMaster by cixelsyd · · Score: 1

    Just worked on a machine in this case in the shop... gorgeous, imo, especially in black. Though I'd probably switch the blue LEDs for red or something.

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  21. does apple make a PVR ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


    because thats what these are for, as if iam going to want a made-in-taiwan apple

  22. Nano-ITX by ryanr · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if Nano boards are actually shipping anywhere? I've got a case project I'm workingon that is too small for mini-ITX.

  23. Ultimate peripheal by notany · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's a Sony: Sony Woman

    Plug and Play or Play and Plug. Automatically adjust's to your male connector's size.

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    1. Re:Ultimate peripheal by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      No, this is the Ultimate Sony Peripheral. Shown with her human friend Miho, Ping-chan is the most advanced PS2 peripheral yet. Non-ecchi model, though, so stop thinking dirty thoughts about her possibilities!

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  24. Shuttle and DVD/CD drives by wwwillem · · Score: 1
    and Shuttle, both of which I found looking kind of cheap

    It depends on the models, some I like, some I don't, but the big problem with Shuttle is always that it looks OK until you mount an optical drive. How to match the material and color they use for their frontplates?? I personally think Shuttle should create something that I would call "bare-bone Plus", which means: include a matching DVD/CDRW.

    There is one exception, and I bought that one myself two weeks ago, which is the SN85G4, an AMD64 model. I added a black OEM (Pioneer) DVD, which had no logo's at all, and the combination looks very classy. But of course, YMMV.....

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  25. Why don't... by BJH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...you try this place for your mouse and keyboard.

    Although if you find their $US5000-8000 pricetags a bit much, the overstock page might be a bit more useful.

    1. Re:Why don't... by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 1

      Damn; that's what case mods -should- look like. It's a shame they charge so much; even an 'overstock' set runs for $5500. Maybe if I win the lottery.

  26. Run it on PPC... by Cycline3 · · Score: 1

    You could always run Linux on PPC hardware .. iMac, eMac, Power Mac G5... and the Mac peripherals are super styling.

  27. Wooden Mice by DaNasty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always loved the look of these wooden mice & keyboards. http://www.woodcontour.com/index.php

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  28. perphs by kronchev · · Score: 1

    I have heard good things about Hush, never owned one (haven't updated for a while). Mouse and keyboard, well, I use a freebie Compaq keyboard with integrated smartcard reader, it is absolutly solid, I feel like I could beat a football team to death with it and it wouldn't even notice. My mouse is a Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical, I've used this for a few years and have put it through constant running and near constant hardcore gaming (and I do have a temper) and it's held up on me. The other kind of mouse I'd recommend is a Logitech MX510. Don't even bother with wireless mice, they're a waste of money, and they DO have a delay.

  29. lianli cases! by einolu · · Score: 1

    this is expensive but cool, even more functional than a g5 case and it comes in black! newegg link

  30. Mac G4 Cube by selderrr · · Score: 1

    hard to find, not cheap, but I got my 2nd hand Cube for 800 euro. I equipped it with bluetooth (USB dongle) and airport. Then I dissembled an old PC LCD monitor to encapsulate it in a wooden frame which hangs on the wall, with the cables going thru the wall (the other side of the wall is staircase to basement). Now all I need are stylish speakers (the Apple Pro speakers are not such good quality (I don't like the soundsticks by the way)) and I have a really really nice audio setup that everyone envies.

    1. Re:Mac G4 Cube by Whumpsnatz · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that you need _USB_ speakers on a Cube.

      I've never been impressed with the sound on my Cube, but I still haven't found anything to match its silence. Yeah, it's really good-looking, but the silence is the single most important thing that encourages me to keep it. I see somewhat interesting attempts out there at PCs, but they all seem to be pretty noisy.

      As for the monitor, I still like the original (acrylic?) LCD monitor.

    2. Re:Mac G4 Cube by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Now all I need are stylish speakers (the Apple Pro speakers are not such good quality (I don't like the soundsticks by the way)) and I have a really really nice audio setup that everyone envies.

      Have you considered Blueroom Minipod speakers? They aren't cheap, but they can be had brand new for a fair amount under the RRP from eBay suppliers.

  31. http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/ by The+Herbaliser · · Score: 1
  32. Shuttle SN95... by Kjella · · Score: 1

    ...I got that one, and I find it nice and stylish. Actually discrete is a more proper word, it is not flashy at all. Black with some silver decoration, it'll blend in most anywhere. Now, if only I could afford a 20" black LCD or something, it'd look even better...

    Kjella

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  33. dvorak kicks ass... by fbartho · · Score: 1

    :) I moved on to dvorak by choice over the past year (well, over the summer in fact), and I am quite happy with the result. My only gripe is that most of the keyboards I have used have slightly differently shaped keys such that if I were to rearrange the keys they would not feel right under my fingers... this means that I generally use a standard qwerty keyboard, and just ignore the key layouts, making it quite confusing for anyone who watches me type or who attempts to use my computer without my permission... And when I look down at my fingers for whatever reason, I am visualizing a dvorak, instead of the letters... I looked at the keylabel replacement option, but that is just not interesting, i don't want a sticker under my fingers when I type... Thus, is there any place I could find dvorak keyboard for around 10 dollars? :) because that is the cost of my current keyboard, and it would be a shame to spend 60-80 dollars to get a dvorak keyboard...

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  34. Here is a jumping off point... by bomb_number_20 · · Score: 1

    how about solid wood and stone peripherals?

    There is also the backlit keyboard, both handy and stylish.

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  35. Antec Sonata. by Slayk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm rather fond of my Antec Sonata

    The exterior is pretty toned-down (aside from the blue led on the front, which I have unplugged for sleeping purposes), damn quiet, and well thought-out from front to back (drawers for all drives, rubber-mounted fan/drives, etc). For those who believe that the style of a case need not end once you open it, it's a good choice.

    1. Re:Antec Sonata. by Blackbrain · · Score: 1

      I have to agree about the Sonata. It is a hell of a case, with tons of drive space. The PS and stock case fans are the quietest I have run across. However, if the submitter thinks the Hush case is "cheap looking", the Sonata is probably too utilitarian for him.

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    2. Re:Antec Sonata. by ThePlague · · Score: 1, Informative

      Antec does make some very nice looking, and well-thought out, cases. I just built a PC using the Aria cube case, and considering it's a small case using a micro-ATX board, it was realtively hassle-free. I've had more difficulty with some full-size cases.

      One nice feature of the Aria that some posters have complained about in other cases is that the Optical drive bay has an integrated face plate. Thus, you can get any DVD/CD/+-RW etc and not spoil the front appearance of the case. Of course, when the OD is extended you'll see the front of the tray, so I still went with a "near-match" black, but when closed it's solid Aria piano black. Very nice.

    3. Re:Antec Sonata. by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I own (3) Sonata cases. One is an Opteron 144 system, one is an Opteron 246 (dual) system, and the 3rd case is currently awaiting parts. The Antec p160 cases are nice for server cases, one more bay then the Sonata, plus they have the interior case temp information. I own 3 of those cases as well, with a 4th one awaiting parts.

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  36. Re:higher quality keyboard by Cmdr+TECO · · Score: 2, Informative
    This keyboard offers real switches and USB in a 'modern' package.

    (I've never used one -- I'm satisfied with IBM Ms, Fujitsu KB4700s, and/or Apple Extendeds when away from my Kinesis Contoured -- but they have ALPS switches so they're doubtless fine.)

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  37. soldam is an excellent option. by gladbach · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am astonished that no one has mentioned soldam, a japanese case maker. very very nice stuff, but obviously comes at a price.

    www.soldam.com

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    1. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by russint · · Score: 2, Informative

      Clickable link

      Aaah, the possibilities of html.

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    2. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Are these sold in North America? The site only lists prices in yen.

    3. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe you can get them in the shipped to the US, but it ends up costing you like a 1000 bucks for the case. I've heard of some people placing bulk orders with them to get the price down.

    4. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by Ignominious+Cow+Herd · · Score: 1

      Yes. Using one now that is about 3 years old.

      They were very nice in that I got a phone call a few days after it arrived. They wanted to be sure it arrived safely and I was happy with it.

      At least I _think_ that is why they called. I don't speak Japanese and the caller had a very thick accent :)

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    5. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by metalslinger · · Score: 1

      Probably because that is one ugly looking case!

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    6. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by gladbach · · Score: 1

      yes, I have one of the older jazz lv+ cases. it did not cost me a thousand dollars to get one either. prices are in yen, but its easy to just convert on yahoo and get it shipped. they are expensive, but not exorbitantly more than some cases sold here in the USA

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    7. Re:soldam is an excellent option. by MegaHyster · · Score: 1
      They have a rate conversion tool right on the site. Showed the price in yen, click on "rate", and it shows the approximate value in dollars (US).

      Looks like a very nice design. It'd be nice to show up at the next LAN Party with one...

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  38. NeXT by idiotnot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a dead NeXTStation that I'm going to mod to fit an ITX board and three drives. I'm also hoping to figure out a way to maybe use something like a notebook DVD drive in place of the floppy port.

    Actually modding these, though, is tougher than a standard PC case -- they're thick cast metal, which looks difficult to cut.

    Next thing to do is find a monitor and keyboard that look like they belong with it. Or, I might just use it as a MythTV setup, as it'd look good beside a TV.

    1. Re:NeXT by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      You could always try oxy-cutting it

      Disclaimer: My oxy experience is restricted to welding

    2. Re:NeXT by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      Doesn't everything?

    3. Re:NeXT by ShogZilla · · Score: 1

      If it's like the next cube, the casing is magnesium. Magnesium's flammable, and difficult to extinguish - something to think about before trying to cut it.

    4. Re:NeXT by jepaton · · Score: 1

      Oxyfuel cutting is unsuitable for cast metals, unless you add flux. The cut quality will be reduced, although you won't cut at all without.

      A new finish would be required, as just to start cutting requires 900oC. Straight cuts are challenging. Definately practice.

      My own experience is limited to about 30 hours of practice, on mild steel.

      Oxyfuel cutting - process and fuel gases

    5. Re:NeXT by lachlan76 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now that I've got some sleep, I have remembered that they are made of Magnesium. Not the kind of thing you want to oxy-cut.

    6. Re:NeXT by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      NeXTs were made of a Magnesium alloy formulated to be resistant to catching on fire --- the article in NeXTworld where they did burn one noted the difficulty involved.

      That said, the finish (Omni spray-on NeXT black) is water-based, so won't survive any significant heat application (but see the polished Cube at http://www.blackholeinc.com )

      Best to use a Dremel or other machine tool and work slowly (with a filter mask).

      William

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  39. What's nice? What's NeXT? by WillAdams · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For my part, I still haven't found a machine to displace my NeXT Cube from my desk at home, though my Fujitsu Stylistic is getting pretty close.

    I've always thought it a shame that NeXT wasn't able to continue to make up-dated motherboards for it (they did three, the original Motorola 68030 @ 25MHz, an '040 at 25, then the ``Turbo'' '040 @33MHz --- there are a couple of ``Nitro'' processor daughtercards at 40MHz though).

    And of course, one could squeeze say 16 small motherboards into it, run a Beowolf Cluster and have a ``hypercube''.

    Seriously, it's kind of sad that there's so little being done in the way of nice looking machine designs that an almost 15 year old design still seems current (or timeless?). Most of the nice design work these days seems to be at Apple (heir to the NeXT throne --- I just wish they did something other than the iPod in black) in laptops or Tablet PC systems, esp. those w/ docking options.

    William

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    1. Re:What's nice? What's NeXT? by trans_err · · Score: 1

      Just search ebay for a use G4 Cube... It's the NeXT cube all over again-- Jobs has a thing for them methinks.

    2. Re:What's nice? What's NeXT? by WillAdams · · Score: 1

      I've got a G4 at work, and am typing this on my wife's PowerBook G3.

      Problems for me w/ a G4 Cube:

      - wrong colour (``Paint it black'')
      - is there a USB keyboard w/ the same ``feel'' as my old-style NeXT keyboard?
      - Mac OS X has scrollbars on the wrong side, monolithic main menu, no pop-up menu, no tear off menus, Services support is inconsistent, Freehand is a Carbon app, while it's antecedent was a native NeXT app
      - no support for my NeXTlaserprinter so I'd have to replace that or keep the Cube on the network anyway
      - no replacement for TouchType.app
      - my serial Wacom ArtZ graphics tablet requires third-party support which is incompatible with at least one app I'd want to run (Fireworks last I checked)

      William

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  40. Wood by tacocat · · Score: 1

    Buy an ultra cheap POS case and strip out the PCI backplane for the rear of the case and the ATX mounting plate for the mobo. Then build the rest of the case out of wood. Been there, done that. nice!

  41. Originality; Apple keyboards; logitech mice by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative
    Well, if I were you, I would take a half-way decent case and mod it. Chop off the back if it is too long, put some plexiglass on the side, stencil on the side, whatever floats your boat. Much more unique than the standard Mac

    So, let me translate. "Do what every male 16-25 has been doing with his PC for several years now- making a box with a window in the side of an ugly box, because it was "cool", so mainstream that now Dell and everybody else will sell you a machine with a window in the side. That will be more original than buying a Macintosh which is actually cutting edge design".

    Everyone seems to be suggesting to go with a Mac.

    I'm suggesting he go with a Mac keyboard. I've seen tons of PC keyboards just die- Mac keyboards just keep going, no matter what you dish out. The latest Pro keyboard is also pretty stylish and does not feel even remotely "plasticky" and cheap...cause it isn't. I remember when the original Extended II Pro keyboard was still around- mine lasted for years until ADB was finally not supported by Apple anymore. Those things were damn tanks!

    As for a mouse, if you manage to break a Logitech optical, you're insane...I've had the same one for years, and I've never had to replace one in a work environment. Seen plenty of those shitty Microsoft mice die ugly deaths though.

    1. Re:Originality; Apple keyboards; logitech mice by kayen_telva · · Score: 1

      ive had the exact opposite experience.
      mice seem to be the one area where microsoft really excels (no pun intended),
      while logitech is a distant second
      the basic optical mouse (wheel mouse optical) are solid, and dont stop working.

    2. Re:Originality; Apple keyboards; logitech mice by ThousandStars · · Score: 1
      If he wants a really good keyboard, he can get the the one I use. Although I've had it for less than a year, its construction feels more rugged than the standard Apple keyboard I foolishly bought with my PowerBook or the standard Dell keyboard I used to use.

      Of course, as long as we're on the subject of keyboard pr0n, I suspect no keyboard today matches the IBM Model Ms of old.

    3. Re:Originality; Apple keyboards; logitech mice by smacktits · · Score: 1

      I absolutely agree. I love my Model-M and wouldn't use anything else. Stylish? Well that's a matter of opinion. Classic? No doubt about it.

  42. SuperFlower, if you can find it by joemadeus · · Score: 1

    I have a MicroATX case made by TTGI/SuperFlower, model SF-101S. I think they still have them at Kasecom -- but if they don't have them there, they're out for good, since TTGI said they're not making it any more. I love this case -- solidly made, very nice finish and it just plain looks nice.

    -j

  43. Wires still an eye sore by Denver_80203 · · Score: 1

    I don't care what you have for a computer, it's the giant hairy nest of wires that, even with zip ties and velcro, never seem to calm down. Someone come up with an answer to that and I'm happier.

    1. Re:Wires still an eye sore by impos · · Score: 1

      Try one of these http://www.ultraproducts.com/ I installed one earlier this week and the aesthetics are satisfying

  44. Re:Sexy Cases :D by ALpaca2500 · · Score: 1

    those things are some of the easiest cases to work with. all the screws are the thumb-screw type, easy to remove. the motherboard tray slides right outfor very easy installation/upgrading. if you want your PC to look like an aluminum monolith, i would reccommend them (especially their full tower model). BUT, i don't think that's what the submitter had in mind..

  45. regular ATX case by humungusfungus · · Score: 1

    I know most people here are talking about toaster sized mini-ATX cases, but I've always been partial to the practicality (from a system tinkering point of view) of mid-tower cases.

    For people in that demographic, I'd put my vote on the Antec Sonata. While it's not exactly silent, it's quieter than most; and it does look pretty slick with its high gloss black finish. Internally, it's one of the nicest cases I've ever had the pleasure of working on.

    Of particular note is the the hard drive positioning and easy removal of all storage components (clips and rails). It also comes with a high quality 380W power supply (w/ SATA connectors), extra internal 6" fan, and front-panel-access for audio, USB and firewire.

    Not too shabby for ~$120 CND.

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  46. I had similar questions by NitroWolf · · Score: 1

    I had similar questions about a computer... so I went ahead and build this:

    http://dctournament.com/wcpc/firstpc

    I think it came out excellent, considering it was my first time building something this elaborate.

  47. Nice Holiday Spirit. by Holi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Forget your computer for a few days. It won't mind. If you have extra money after getting your loved one's their gifts hwy not put it towards something more satisfying. How about donating it to some shelters or soup kitchens, or maybe toys for tots. I know it's not the American thing to do any more but damn it's more important then turning your pc into the digital equivilant to a rice-burner.

    Now a Merry Christmas to all and fucking do it right.

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    1. Re:Nice Holiday Spirit. by Osty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Forget your computer for a few days. It won't mind. If you have extra money after getting your loved one's their gifts hwy not put it towards something more satisfying. How about donating it to some shelters or soup kitchens, or maybe toys for tots. I know it's not the American thing to do any more but damn it's more important then turning your pc into the digital equivilant to a rice-burner.

      Even better, if you have some money left over after being forced to court debt to satisfy your greedy kin, why not put it in an interest bearing savings account or invest it in the market. Rather than feeling obligated to spend yourself into bankruptcy ever holiday season, you could be saving for your future.

      If you'd like to donate to charity, feel free. However, may I suggest you wait and do that in April or May, or August? Right now, everybody and his dog is donating to charities because it's the "right" thing to do at holiday times. However, how much more important would your contribution be to needy families during a time of year when contributions are not pouring in from holiday guilt? Needy folks are needy year-round. They don't suddenly become needy between October and January.

    2. Re:Nice Holiday Spirit. by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Normally, it is rare enough for people to give money , and I would not want to discourage that. Look carefully for the right charity organization, and make sure that they do not spend it all on administration and other internal costs. The right organizations will spend their money at the right time and the right cause. Your favourite charity organization will save it for you (and probably get better intrest as well, being an organization).

    3. Re:Nice Holiday Spirit. by Osty · · Score: 1

      Normally, it is rare enough for people to give money , and I would not want to discourage that.

      It really depends on the demographics, but amongst professionals (which one could argue includes a good percentage of Slashdot ...) the charity donation rate is quite high (due in part to higher average incomes, tax deductions, and company-sponsored charity drives with matching donations). However, two of those three incentives are available year-round, and if you talk to the right people in your organization I'm sure you can get the third benefit outside of a corporate donation drive, especially if you're planning to donate money to buy your company's product (ie, a Dell employ pledging $X to buy computers for a local school). Unfortunately, the public awareness for charity donations is only heightened during holiday seasons, typically using guilt tactics. The rest of the year, nobody even thinks about it.

      Look carefully for the right charity organization, and make sure that they do not spend it all on administration and other internal costs. The right organizations will spend their money at the right time and the right cause. Your favourite charity organization will save it for you (and probably get better intrest as well, being an organization).

      Better yet, skip the organizations entirely. Donating to something like United Way is no better than throwing your money out with the trash, IMHO. Find a worthy cause (your local library, the public school where you were educated, the local volunteer food co-op, etc) and write them a check directly. Even if you're donating through a corporate-sponsored drive, any halfway-decent campaign will allow you to specify where you want the money to go (if you don't specify, it'll go to the United Way, so be specific). However, if you must donate to an umbrella charity company (what an oxymoron!), I really suggest you do so during the "off-season" for charity (ie, not Thanksgiving or Christmas). If the organization wants to stockpile your donation until the holiday season, that's their decision, but if I found out they were doing that I would find a different organization to give to next year.

      Charity is supposed to be selfless. It's not supposed to be a competition to see who can donate the most money, nor is it supposed to be guilt-induced. Sadly, charity has become little more than a bullet point on a corporate resume or a cheerleading excercise to "beat" last year's total. If I give to charity, that's between me and the charity. I'm not saying I do or don't give, and it's none of your business.

    4. Re:Nice Holiday Spirit. by egarland · · Score: 1

      Rather than feeling obligated to spend yourself into bankruptcy ever holiday season, you could be saving for your future.

      Remember though, when someone else spends themselves into a massive debt hole it's good for you. It makes them easier to influence, cheaper to hire and, in general, less threatening. Debt is also where the money comes from that people without debt have. Your debt is bad for you, but everyone else's debt is good for you.

      So. On that note: You all need to go spend every last dime you have on gifts for your friends and relatives or you'll go to hell. :)

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  48. Some options... by mgrassi99 · · Score: 1

    Ahanix and SilverStone both make some really nice cases, as does CoolerMaster.

  49. stop with the mac talk by ALpaca2500 · · Score: 1

    unless you specifically want to use the Mac OS, do not buy a mac just because it looks good (and, as many have pointed out, they do not all look good...). it sounds like this person is looking for a PC anyway, and as such it is annoying to see 20 posts saying "if you want style get a mac". (full disclosure: i use a mac, and a windows PC, each for different things, and i enjoy using both.)

  50. whether or not you get a mac... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    you have to see this... just beautiful. Please Santa please!
    http://matias.ca/tactilepro/index.php

    from their site...

    "The best keyboard Apple ever made" rises again.
    The Matias Tactile Pro Keyboard is built from the same premium keyswitch technology that Apple used in its original Apple Extended Keyboard, widely viewed as the best keyboard Apple evermade.
    Mechanical key switches for maximum comfort andspeed.
    Mac users who crave the feel of Apple's quality keyboards of old will love this keyboard. The Tactile Pro Keyboard uses high-quality Alps mechanical keyswitches, with enhanced tactile feedback for greater comfort and faster typingspeeds.
    Special characters and symbols at your fingertips.
    No need to launch another application to find that special symbol. For quick and easy reference, the Tactile Pro's key caps are clearly labeled with the international characters, accents, punctuation, and currency symbols that are available by holding down the Option or Shift+Optionkeys.
    Modern look and features.
    With standard Eject and Volume control keys, the Tactile Pro keyboard has been carefully designed to match the look and features of Apple's Pro Keyboard. It will look as good on your desk as your Mac does.
    2-port USB hub.
    For quickly attaching USB peripherals, nothing beats the convenience of an in-keyboard USB hub. No more reaching through the tangle of wires behind your computer to download photos from your digital camera. Just plug it into the keyboard and you're ready to go. Works great with MP3 players, keyring hard drives, joysticks, and mice too.
    Built like a tank.
    The Tactile Pro Keyboard is built to last, and comes with a 5yearwarranty.

    1. Re:whether or not you get a mac... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      I started using a microshaft natural keyboard about 3 years ago after I started getting tendenitis in my wrists. I've not had a twinge since - and I type a lot.

      I also type very hard - I bang away at the keyboard primarily due to learning to type on a manual typewriter back in the day. I have two MS Natural keyboards I use - and both are still going strong without a hitch.

      I also have a microsoft laser mouse which is at least 3 years old - again going strong.

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  51. Cat balancing act by Orlando · · Score: 1

    I want to know how they managed to balance what looks like a very real cat on this case.

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    1. Re:Cat balancing act by mdalal97 · · Score: 1

      It is an overhead shot. :)

    2. Re:Cat balancing act by kencurry · · Score: 1

      "Photoshop" - I think they call it . . .

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  52. resellerratings.com by gimpboy · · Score: 1

    Just out of curiosity, did you check resellerratings.com to see if they had any customer feedback. If you didn't already, make sure to leave some feedback there. I guess this would be a good heads up for people not familar with this site. I typically wont buy from an online reseller if they don't have good reviews. Sure I pay more up front, but at least I don't have to go six months without a computer.

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  53. Antec by Lord_Scrumptious · · Score: 2, Informative

    For cases, have a look at the Antec Sonata. A simple stylish design in smart piano black. Try a search at various online retailers that let buyer's post reviews and you'll find the case to be well-rated. The Nexus Breeze is also a nice design.

    1. Re:Antec by Doctor+Crumb · · Score: 1

      Antec cases aren't just stylish, they're *quiet*.

      I just got the Antec Aria, which is either a very small regular sized case or a somewhat large SFF case, depending how you look at it. It fits micro-ATX boards and has room for everything you'd need, but is half the size of a regular case. I'm happy with it.

  54. Don't look further... by thesman · · Score: 1

    Here's what you need!
    PS: I know its not PC hardware, but you'll have all the style you need.

    1. Re:Don't look further... by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      Sorry, the panelpc is so passe and so expensive when you want to upgrade a few years from now. I know you maclots think that everything jobs creates is new, but us PC people have had such systems for years now. Better luck next time.

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  55. Linux doesn't mean x86 by BiOFH · · Score: 1

    "Of course, nothing can be good enough for my Linux box..."

    He said Linux. He said the above. Linux runs on PPC as well as Intel. Why must he buy a x86 PC? And wouldn't you be aghast if someone said "don't buy a PC unless you specifically want to use Windows"? Linux is not platform-bound.

    "...do not buy a mac just because it looks good..."
    Quite frankly, the guy specifically said he wants something that looks good.

    I don't see the problem with recommending a stylish computer to someone who says they are looking for a stylish computer.

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  56. Silverstone by EdZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're going for an AV-component look (i.e. clean and functional, but relatively stylish) then Silverstone make some pretty damn good cases.

  57. Re:nomac by ptomblin · · Score: 1

    I have a G4 server, and besides the looks, the design is unbelievably good. You open the side panel (with no tools, I might add), and the motherboard is sitting there horizontally on the table, the drives are in position vertically on the case, and the cables are all routed down along the hinge line out of the way. Compare and contrast to the forest of power cables, IDE cables and other stuff (like the sound cable that goes between the sound card and the CD-ROM) cluttering up the inside of a PC case. It's a thing of beauty. Adding RAM or hard drives or taking out a zip drive to put in a DVD burner is a positive pleasure in a Mac G4 compared to the swearing and knuckle bashing I endure with a PC case.

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  58. I forget... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    what keyboards are out there that allow you to rearrange the keys? (And the functions of the keys are re-arranged with their movement)

    I want to change a QWERTY keyboard to a rot13("QERTY") keyboard...memorizing transposition encryption was never easier. :)

    1. Re:I forget... by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 1

      IBM model M keyboards have removable keycaps.

  59. woodgrainpc.com by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

    The domain is down right now, but I can do custom work for you. What price range were you looking to spend?

    Here's an example of a woodgrain keyboard that I did:
    http://www.dashpc.com/show_picture.php?id=2230
    I also do it for much less than the real-wood designs. The keyboard in that picture for example, would run you about $150 US.

    It's not cheap by any stretch, but high quality will almost always cost more.

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  60. Fingerworks Touchstream LP by ToadMan8 · · Score: 1

    I know everyone else is thinking WTF would I pay over three hundred bucks for a keyboard.... then consider you paid x hundred for leather or heated seats or a cool stereo in your car. Now think hrmm, I spend about an hour a day in the car and 10 or 12 hours a day on the computer... getting a keyboard that is as close to erognomic perfection as currently possible may be a good idea.

    Not to mention the thing is sweet; the gestures are very convenient, typing gets easy after a while... I own a Dvorak one and use it at the office - was considering the mac 'n touch one to drop into my powerbook but they discontinued it for reasons unknown. New software is always coming out (firmware for gesture customization, built in English dictionary (yes, in the keyboard itself)). My favorite part is being able to type and mouse on the same surface without having to move my hands. Check it out http://www.fingerworks.com/lp_product.html

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  61. Cooler Master TAC-T01 Wavemaster by scanrate · · Score: 1

    http://www.mbx.com/p/cooler_master/tac_t01_wavemas ter

    Pics don't quite do it justice.

  62. Surplus notebook machine sans screen & battery by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Get a surplus notebook with a broken or removed display, plug in your own keyboard, trackball, monitor and off you go. You don't even need a working battery.

  63. An often overlooked manufacturer by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1
    Take a look at Cooler Master. I only found them because they had a case that I think every CompUSA got 1 of and could never sell so it ended scratched up w/o a UPC somewhere in their store. Still I followed up with the few letters and numbers on it and eventually found it.

    They make the most beautiful media pc or just PC case in general. The ATC-620 is a wonderful case. It is a shame it is so often overlooked.

    For a tower, I would say the Antec Sonata is about as nice as they come.

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    1. Re:An often overlooked manufacturer by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      CoolerMaster rocks. I discovered them when looking for a new PC. I went with a smaller "botique" brand this time and two of the 4 brands I'd narrowed it down to offered various CoolerMaster cases as options.

      I ended up with a CoolerMaster Cavalier 1 (with the side window option). I love it. It looks like what a tower case would have looked like in the Art Decco era (had PCs been around then). Very "retro".

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  64. lots of options by Fratz · · Score: 4, Informative
    Most of these are in HTPC form factor, but some are not:
    • Antec
    • Silverstone - if getting an HTPC case, be careful to get one that doesn't have cooling problems with your CPU of choice. HTPC cases with higher numbers in their names are generally better at cooling.
    • Travla
    • Ahanix
    • XOxide carries their own brand of cases, plus a lot of the other ones on this list.
    • Arisetec (formerly Kanam)
    • CoolerMaster
    • Logic Supply
    sells the Hush cases you're familiar with, along with some house-brand models.
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  65. Is that really what people think of the Mac? by TampaDeveloper · · Score: 1

    I look at the PC Mods that are "comperable" to a Mac and I have to wonder this question. The Macs I see are, for the most part, fairly tasteful. There have been some that are over the edge, such as the clamshell laptops. But every PC mod I've seen has been total ghetto pimp. How does a clear case with glowing neon lights substitute the practical yet stylish design qualities of a Mac? Also, whats really great about a Mac is the way it works. I've said it many times, I had no intention of switching to a mac until I tried THREE TIMES to purchase software to make DVDs (on two separate PCs, so no it wasn't a hardware problem). I finally was fed up and decided I would take a chance. It was the best $1200 I ever spent!!! This Christmas and last Christmas, the gift to our family was a DVD of the year's highlights. They love it, its easy, and despite working with 4 gigabyte files, the mac is fast and has never yet crashed!!! Its simply amazing.

    1. Re:Is that really what people think of the Mac? by Whumpsnatz · · Score: 1

      "Ghetto pimp" - definitely LOL on that one. I suppose it's like those DOS days, when "real men" used the clunky CLI (but not Unix). For PCs, Apparently, ugliness is the new/old beauty.

      I certainly agree on the usability of Macs. I think I've turned on my PC maybe 4 times this year - and one of those had to do with getting Virtual PC working on the Mac. So I certainly don't see any need to be getting another PC.

  66. Asus Espresso by Porkchops · · Score: 2

    I've been looking for stylish cases as well. I ran across the Asus Espresso and thought it looked pretty sexy with a touch sensitive LCD display. I am probably going to get it to be my new mythTV box. http://usa.asus.com/products/desktop/s-presso/over view.htm

  67. Try HTPC Cases by nsingapu · · Score: 2, Informative

    HTPC (Home Theater PC) Cases are generally understated and made to look more like they house a stereo component then a computer.
    The two most prominent manufacturers are Silverstone and Ahanix, generally one of the cases will set one back $100-$250-ish so they are definatly on the higher end of cases pricewise. Generally they suffer from a number of common defects - heat management is poor (the cases are meant to produce very little noise and airflow suffers accordingly), and the layouts and placement for the various components is, more often then not, cumbersome. That said, from an astetic standpoint they are clean, from a noise standpoint they are quite; they are the kind of thing that would be at home in a living room...

  68. hush site by clmensch · · Score: 1

    Man those Hush machines look nice, but their English website is just awful. Anyone using one of those for a MythTV box? Thoughts?

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  69. Stylish PC? Is that a bad joke? by melted · · Score: 1

    iMac G5 20" - that's stylish. But that's not a PC.

    1. Re:Stylish PC? Is that a bad joke? by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      Why would I want derivitives of the panelpc form factor innovated by the PC market? There are flat panel PCs too, you ignorant macboy.

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    2. Re:Stylish PC? Is that a bad joke? by melted · · Score: 1

      Yup. There's a difference. If you want stylish you get a Mac. They innovate, they set the standards. If you want trendy, you get a Mac rip-off.

      I'm a fairly recent convert, and I'm convinced Apple offers superior product in the upper end of the market, and does it for not that much more than what you'd spend on a comparable PC.

  70. Anyone else. . . by CotterPin · · Score: 1

    . . . see a market for truly artistic PC cases? It seems there are very few companies that do this, and it's basically adding some spray paint, christmas lights and plexiglass windows to your generic box.

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  71. Touchstream Silver by MrFastTouch · · Score: 1

    And now we have a new "silver" color scheme for the LP that fits beautifully with all those Macs mentioned up thread!

  72. recently spec'd a sexy executive pc by H310iSe · · Score: 1

    BenQ makes some interesting keyboards and mice, including some in partnership with BMW design group.

    The NEC 1765 is a really stunning looking monitor both on and off - you need to see it in person to appreciate it, the best looking LCD i found.

    The rest of the PC was plain old AMD-Shuttle, finding a classy, suitable for an executive type PC case is really hard.

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  73. Cases by jjcohen · · Score: 1
    These might have been mentioned already:

    http://www.atechfabrication.com/

    http://www.ahanix.com/

    http://www.silverstonetek.com/

    Kanam has some nice cases, but I can't seem to be able to find their website any longer. However, you can buy Kanam cases from a number of places, like:

    http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Cases/ht 400.asp

    The Hush case can't be bought by itself. Same goes for a similar case from another German manufacturer - Mappit. I had a Hoojum Cubit 3. Very pretty, but limited, due to poor ventilation and of course, small size.

  74. Ick! by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    Noone mentioned them because their cases are ugly. At least, the ones they currently have on their website.

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    1. Re:Ick! by Ignominious+Cow+Herd · · Score: 1

      Try the Japanese site http://www.soldam.co.jp/ instead. They just added some Pentium M systems.

      The fish does a decent job of deciphering the contents.

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    2. Re:Ick! by JPriest · · Score: 1

      Here is a link to the google translated cases page

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  75. Noone's said Alienware yet. by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    Alienware has some truly great cases. In fact, all the other ones I've seen mentioned here are ugly, square, or both. There's really not much on the style front here.

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  76. Off the shelf MythTV hardware? by Strolls · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there ANY available? What do people use, for heavens' sake?

    What I mean by this is that I need:

    • small, fairly cute case
    • silent, no fan. This has to sit at a parents' house & act just like a consumer device.
    • 2 PCI slots. Yes, TWO, damnit! I want one for Hauppage TV-out and another for a Hauppage digital-TV tuner.

    I can't find anything that actually meets these requirements. My mother has a Mini-ITX machine in her study at present, something like this, but the fan noise is too much for the living room.

    Mini-ITX.com sell Epia fanless motherboards with processor already mounted, and I gather that 600mhz or so is fine for a MythTV box, if one is using Hauppage cards' onboard MPEG hardware, but they all have only one PCI slot.

    I can find riser cards to convert these motherboards to accept a second PCI, card, but the only case I can find that accept this hardware is pretty uninspiring.

    So it seems to me that in order to build a decent MythTV box I have to do some modding of some sort, which I'd really rather not do. Has anyone solved this problem with an off-the shelf solution.

    1. Re:Off the shelf MythTV hardware? by Raptor+CK · · Score: 1

      Antec's Aria comes close, but it's not perfect. It's quiet, but not silent, and you need to disable the damnable blue LEDs. It is, however, microATX compatible, so it supports *three* cards at once. I notice that it's on when the TV's not blasting, but with good BIOS control for the fan speed, you may not even notice.

      As for that uninspiring riser-based mini-ITX case, it looks like a bland piece of A/V equipment. Figure out how to install a nice VFD, and it might be perfect for the task.

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  77. The only winning move is not to play the game by caller_number_six · · Score: 1
    "So I decided to ask Slashdotters - which other options are there available?"
    Why look at the case at all? I'd rather have a PC in a nearby closet or cabinet with extended cables for a monitor and USB. It solves the problems of fan noise, case aesthetics and messy cabling all in one shot.
  78. If money's no object... by xanderwilson · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I think this CNN/Money article was slashdotted not too long ago. And here's some wood peripherals, which I thought I learned about from the CNN/Money article, but--looking at it again--I guess I'm mistaken. They also have peripherals in stone casing.

    Alex.

  79. Keyboard and Mouse by squatex · · Score: 1

    The best media center kb/mouse combo I have seen is the Gyration (http://www.gyration.com/) I have not tried the new media center combo yet, but the old GT combo (mini kb and gyroscopic mouse) is excellent. That mouse is THE single best mouse I have ever used. The kb is a little shoddy but the mouse is extremely well built.

  80. Your right, others are on Crack but here are ideas by Foo2rama · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First you where looking for good quality peripharals... You seem to have the small form factor case down. I am a littel leary of the Nanode, since the specs are a little vague and it runs on a VIA cpu.

    Today most computer parts are no longer beige, it seems that build quality has gone down. Mitsuko which is generally considred low end becuase of the price, but they make a good keyboard available in a variety of colors, and for mice Alienware has all the microsoft high end mice in custom colors. You pay a little bit for it but they match the mitsuko keyboards in color.

    As for cases most cases look like cheap plastic junk now. I've been using a server size chenming that is similar to the original alienware. Not flashy not cheap looking, but has the size I need to run all my drives, as well as clean lines.

    Another option is just to check out www.newegg.com and see what is offered they have a large selection, with pictures of every item, as well as a good search engine, and search engine interface.

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  81. Old Sony Stereo Receiver by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have an old Sony stereo receiver I got off a trash pile. I gutted it and installed an old G3 Mac and 2 160GB hard drives. This is my digital music player in my A/V rack. As soon as I can afford it, I'd like to get a smallish (6" high) LCD touch screen and use that to control iTunes. For now, I just remote access it.

    You might be able to find some cool retro A/V cases, ala McIntosh. That would sweet, especially if you got the analog gauges working.

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  82. IBM Model M Keyboards or .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you want a REALLY high quality keyboard with GREAT key feel, I would recommend either a vintage IBM Model M keyboard, or a new version of the same design. You can find those here:
    http://store.yahoo.com/pckeyboards/keyboards.html
    or here:
    http://www.shoppalstores.com/ibmmodelm/index.cfm
    or better yet, eMail me at curtharmsebay@ameritech.net and buy one from me. :) I have a few used ones that I'm cleaning up.
    If you decide to go with a Mac, the very best Mac keyboard ever made is the Apple Extended Keyboard II, or the original version of that keyboard, the Apple Extended Keyboard. Both have good key feel. They are ADB, but you can get an ADB to USB adapter. http://www.macsales.com have a few used ones available. As far as looks go, both these keyboards only appeal in the vintage category, but some might consider them good looking. I think they're kinda cool looks-wise from a vintage standpoint. I care more about key feel anyway, then I do about looks. Just my 4 cents. (For a comment this long 2 cents just isn't enough. :)

  83. Mouse by LMariachi · · Score: 1
    The Microsoft/Phillipe Starck mouse is nice, although I wish it were made of metal. Comes in an interesting box, too.

    That Masamune Shirow mouse is nifty too, but not ninety bucks' worth.

  84. AOpen XC Cube by galaga79 · · Score: 1

    At one stage, I was looking into building a computer with small, functional yet aesthetically pleasing case. Of all the ones I looked at the AOpen XC Cube cases seemed the best, at least in terms of aesthetics.

  85. Find a dead SGI... by (H)elix1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are looking to stick a mini-itx board in something, you can use almost anything as a case. I like the classics, and breathed new life into a dead SGI O2 workstation. (Not pics my box, but a nice set of pictures of the space you have to work with) Add a wireless mouse and keyboard, mix in a nice LCD display, and it makes for a lovely terminal.

    The look on my uncle's face when they saw the 'email and web browsing' computer sitting on their mom's desk was priceless. Such awe for a meager fan less 533mhz Eden board - due only to the case. (grin) A gift that keeps on giving.

  86. Re:Recommendations for MicroATX? by jbarket · · Score: 1

    I'm in the same boat as you are. Mini-ITX simply doesn't provide the power and versatility I'm looking for. Unfortunately, I find the Aria to be absofreakin hideous.

    You might take a look at some older Lian Li cases that are no longer made, but still easily found, like the PC-42. Outside of the funky grill, I love how it looks, and the flipped motherboard tray is much more logical for cooling.

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  87. Well I for my 30th.... by Asphixiat · · Score: 1

    Mid Jan, my parents wanted to buy me something nice for my PC, since I am here so often, I really wanted the "Logitech diNovo"
    http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/product list/NL/EN,crid=2155

    but would feel guilty forever....so I found a place that sells their normal bluetooth desktop, but those diNovo's look pretty stylish, what you need is a matching flat screen and there you go.

  88. What I wonder is what about apples ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1
    Well, I am already since I am already using 13 years pc's and followed the entire evolution through Amiga, GEM, MSDOS, ... I want to get accustomed with a Mac. I am a dedicated PC user; the servers I maintain are running Linux and NetBSD, my laptop, 2 working beasts and gaming machine (for mostly Warcraft sheeptags and Diablo II). are PC's.

    It's not only the style I want to be accustomed with ... I also want functionality .. The OS needs to be customizable enough; eventually kernel tweaking or GUI tweaking could be a nice thing. Since it is running a UNIX kernel it must be easy to adapt from Linux/BSD me thinks?

    I am not wanting to get rid of my PC's, but maybe a extra apple in the house could be healthier than working with something that could fail when it's needed most (Murphy's law? IANAL)

    What type of apple I should buy... I got accustomed with the Mac OS X and it seems to be requiring less maintenance than the Windows PC equivalent.

    Is there any Linux X server like Mac OS X ?

    I love to use the interface; it's smooth, it runs and don't see it crashing often.. XP and 98 crashes weekly 3-4 times and gets bloated after a time ready to be reinstalled ...

    Anything like:

    • Cooledit for Mac OS? And I mean really as good (or better?) I am DJ, I also make songs myself using the multitrack technology of it; I also want to be able to process my soundfiles with compression and effects wherever needed.
    • Instead of Office, Openoffice?
    • good ssh programs like securecrt? (I love the program, will be tabbed in next version)... It's convenience ...
    • good editors like Editplus ? (It just works - always - have an old license and it still works perfect...
    • does it work good with windows sharing (netbios) ? (I know about Samba but sometimes got probs with it - its not exactly point-and-click there unless using Webmin or such ..
    • Needs to work 24/7, no overheating issues like my Compaq EVO N1000v laptop (which needs to be issued back to Compaq because of failing parts - 5th time!!) and Compaq finds it normal?
    • Stuff like Paintshop Pro (Like it more over photoshop ; less bloated and faster)?
    • good and easy desktop player like winamp ? (RIP)
    • Can I turn off automatic updates?
    • I am accustomed with Slackware, NetBSD and Solaris. Is OS X as maintainable as Slackware? Everything through the prompt using Bash?
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    1. Re:What I wonder is what about apples ? by dadman · · Score: 1

      # Cooledit for Mac OS? And I mean really as good (or better?) I am DJ, I also make songs myself using the multitrack technology of it; I also want to be able to process my soundfiles with compression and effects wherever needed.
      Finale, Logic, Reason to name a few, or may be GarageBand? Want some free/shareware? Look here on Apple or Versiontracker

      # Instead of Office, Openoffice?
      Actually I found Office 2004 quite good, but yes, OpenOffice will do.

      # good ssh programs like securecrt? (I love the program, will be tabbed in next version)... It's convenience ...
      /usr/bin/ssh :-)

      # good editors like Editplus ? (It just works - always - have an old license and it still works perfect...
      XCode, Eclipse [sun.com], or the famous BBEdit.

      # does it work good with windows sharing (netbios) ? (I know about Samba but sometimes got probs with it - its not exactly point-and-click there unless using Webmin or such ..
      All built-in, just browse to your Windows PC/server and double click to mount the shared volume, not even need to map a network drive.

      # Needs to work 24/7, no overheating issues like my Compaq EVO N1000v laptop (which needs to be issued back to Compaq because of failing parts - 5th time!!) and Compaq finds it normal?
      May be don't shut it down?
      Just never lock it inside a closed cabinet :-)

      # Stuff like Paintshop Pro (Like it more over photoshop ; less bloated and faster)?
      I like Photoshop, may be it is bloat, but hey, it is FAST!

      # good and easy desktop player like winamp ? (RIP)
      iTunes, man, iTunes!

      # Can I turn off automatic updates?
      Yes, one mouse click away in an obvious place (System Preferences -> Software Update)

      # I am accustomed with Slackware, NetBSD and Solaris. Is OS X as maintainable as Slackware? Everything through the prompt using Bash?
      Yes and more, there is the Apple Script, a global scripting system to let you control every OS X compliant app, and you can do it via the shell, too.

  89. Re:Maybe you should just kill yourself. by slyborg · · Score: 1
    Is Slashdot being taken over by fags?
    Anonymous cowardly ones, yes. So what else is new?
  90. colorware by grrrl · · Score: 1

    since everyone else has mentioned using macs or mac cases, i would say colorware deserves a mention

    though they aren't apple-only anyway

    1. Re:colorware by R-2-RO · · Score: 1

      Sorta nice. I bit to bright but waaay to glossy.

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  91. Re:you asshole by Holi · · Score: 1

    First I am American.

    2nd your chart does not take into account population growth. Nor the increase in charities. and no 250 billion dollars is not enough. Especially when an increasing amount of chritable donations goes to administrative costs.

    And finally yes I am an asshole, i'll do what it takes to get the point across even if it makes everyone hate me. If what I have said makes even one person stop think and act then I was sucessful.

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  92. Obvious by Refrag · · Score: 1

    Your write-up was interesting. The Nanode looks the nicest, while not being very practical. But, I think you're forgetting the obvious.

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    1. Re:Obvious by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      Honestly, why would I choose to be saddled with that ugly POS of an operating system called OS X when I could get an athlon64, have my choice of supported full 64 bit operating systems, plus be able to play Windows games without the need for an emulator?

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    2. Re:Obvious by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Because you'd then be using Linux and Windows. *shiver*

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  93. Low Power + Small Footprint + cool case = SOLTEK by birukun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Soltek IQ3601 - Via C3 1Ghz, colored cases, just throw in some DDR266 memory, a hard drive, CDROM and voila! Bought mine from newegg.com, the damn thing is too quiet. I forget it is on, except the hard drive spinning noise is just enough to make you hear something, but not enough to identify what it is.

    www.soltek.com.tw

    6 USB ports, 2 1394, VGA, 6.1 audio, optical audio out, TV out option, 1 PCI slot, all for under 200 bucks!

    I may buy a couple more to hand out at Christmas.

    Cheers-

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  94. Re:Mac by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    I can't help but think this guy did a hack job on the Mac case.

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  95. rackmount cases by slackadmin · · Score: 1

    Personally I've been using rackmount cases for years, after the initial investment of the rack (some as cheap as $200), the case prices are comparable to other high end cases. You can find some nice 3u cases from I-star and A+GPB that are reasonably priced and good for almost any motherboard. I have found it to be a particularly good solution for those with multiple machines. I've got six machines mounted in a 42u rack on casters (nice when I rearrange my apartment).

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  96. Best fast portable AMD64 server for traveling? by ad454 · · Score: 1

    I have to travel to Asia in a couple of weeks and urgently need to buy & configure a very small, yet powerful 64 bit server to take with me that can generate hundreds of digital signatures per second with RSA private keys. I need to fit this server in a small backpack to take with me onto a plane as carry-on. So far the best that I can find is the Shuttle SN95G5 which supports the AMD64 socket 939. Does anyone have any better (faster, smaller, or cheaper) alternatives to the shuttle? As a server, I will be running NetBSD on it, likely headless or with just a 80x25 text console, so I don't care about video or audio, but USB2.0 would be nice. And as a server, stability/reliability is critical. Alternatively, if anyone know of any PCI cards that can do hardware accelerated RSA with NetBSD or OpenBSD support, please let me know, since I can put that in a smaller/cheaper Mini-ITX case. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Alicia.

    1. Re:Best fast portable AMD64 server for traveling? by Jamesie · · Score: 1

      You mention Mini-ITX cases, have you looked into the latest motherboards? These Nehemiah boards have an encryption chip built in that might be helpful.

    2. Re:Best fast portable AMD64 server for traveling? by Jamesie · · Score: 1

      Sorry,didn't read the amd 64 bit!

  97. Wood cases by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1
    One option is to get a macintosh, as many have and will point out.

    If you want to mod an existing setup, then there are several places to get wooden veneer on your case, keyboard or mouse. Exotic Wood Crafts is one.

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  98. Re:ClearPC by FGOL · · Score: 1

    zzzzzzI alsozzzzz have a zzzzzzstuck "Z" zzzzz key. I need zzzzzz a new zzzzz keyboard.

  99. Re:ClearPC by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

    I am now going to demonstrate to you what happens when i type and move my mouse at the same time (wireless keyboard/mouse) - this is a and s repeatedly, anything other than asasasas is a cockup:

    asassasassssssssssaassssssssssssssssssssssssssss ss ssss

    great eh?

    thats an MCK-9000 from Ortek. Its actually quite a good keyboard once youve identified that problem and got used to only using one at once.

  100. Stylish to me, maybe not to others... by Raptor+CK · · Score: 1

    I went with building my own in an Antec Aria case when I wanted something that didn't look like I hacked it all together from chewing gum and sheet metal.

    Upsides: Small, hidden optical drive (to prevent seeing a beige faceplate with "52X" printed on it,) front-facing ports, fairly quiet, well-cooled for a toaster-sized PC.

    Downsides: Blue LEDs can blind you from 15 miles away. Not a system to leave running in your bedroom overnight. Plastic outer panels, while lightweight, don't have the same feel of sturdiness as a Lian Li aluminum case.

    Overall, though? It's the kind of system my *girlfriend* approves of, as it's not a huge chunk of aluminum that sounds like a jet taking off. If the ladies approve, it must be good.

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  101. Case BE GONE! by Petersko · · Score: 1

    The best computer case is an absent one.

    As far as I'm concerned, the most stylish case would be an oak desk tailored for my spatial needs, with embedded monitors. Then build the computer inside the desk, completely hidden. Even the CD/DVD tray should be hidden until needed.

  102. Re:you asshole. you rang? by Holi · · Score: 1

    Leftist commie pinko America hating Michael Moore wannabe moron?

    Ok.
    Let's see what have you ever done for your Country. Let's see I was proud enough to join and fight in the US Military. 8 years of honorable service. As for leftist, well maybe you are right but I guess that's what I get for having been an Episcopalian minister. Though I am no longer one some things never change. And I truly believe this is the time of the year NOT to be selfish, you have 11 months to spend treating your self to the nicities of life, all I ask is that you spend some time thinking of others you self righteous idiot.

    Before you ever talk to me again, hit rock bottom, then dig yourself out and turn your life around.

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  103. Re:you asshole by kayen_telva · · Score: 1

    the amount of giving has doubled in 30 years. has the population ?
    any more stupid comments ?
    you are a threadjacker and Im glad you agree to being an asshole. admitting it is half the battle.
    btw, Americans bash the U.S. the most. its the "in" thing now.
    I'm all for a good government bashing, but when you claim
    the most generous people on earth don't give enough, well, the numbers alone prove you a fool.

  104. Re:you asshole by kayen_telva · · Score: 1

    just a quick followup, you prick:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=363515

    europe combined is only giving 4 million (as of this moment)