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l33tspeak For Parents By Microsoft

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft has published A parent's primer to computer slang where !337$p34k is explained to the uninitiated. Expect to see a l33t-localized version of Windows XP soon." They also have a wonderful guide to the tactics of a griefer. "Honey, we're getting worried that you may be 0wning newbz. We need to talk..."

159 comments

  1. Fp? by Nova1313 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In soviet russia |\|3wb5 pwn j00

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    1. Re:Fp? by rbriefmd · · Score: 1

      that's "funny?" what's next? a +5 beowulf cluster joke? i thought we got rid of these in 2002...

    2. Re:Fp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah. In North Korea, only old people tell Soviet Russia jokes.

    3. Re:Fp? by Dizzle · · Score: 1

      1. Imagine a beowulf cluster of people complaining about /. cliches.
      2. ???
      3. Profit!

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  2. Left them feedback by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I clicked yes at the bottom: Y0UR 51ght I5 d@ 8OM8, M1CR05OFt Own5 l1NuX

    1. Re:Left them feedback by DLWormwood · · Score: 2, Funny
      I clicked yes at the bottom:

      Funny, when I do that, I get a weird error message.

      Object reference not set to an instance of an object. We are experiencing technical problems. Sorry for the inconvenience. We are still interested in hearing your comments if you have time to provide your feedback. You can do one of two things. You can close this window, refresh your browser, and submit your comments. Or, you can try later.

      Thank you.

      The editors of At Home and At Work
      It doesn't even look like Microsoft can implement a simple "Yes/No" button in a reliable way... Geez.
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    2. Re:Left them feedback by MarkGriz · · Score: 3, Funny

      "It doesn't even look like Microsoft can implement a simple "Yes/No" button in a reliable way... Geez"

      Maybe Microsoft doesn't want feedback from 1337 |-|4x0rz that don't run IE

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    3. Re:Left them feedback by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      Worked for me in Firefox...

    4. Re:Left them feedback by cyxxon · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clearly worded and thought-out response, I copied it verbatim into their "article feedback" form.

    5. Re:Left them feedback by hdparm · · Score: 1

      Please learn to spell - it's M1CR0$OFt

    6. Re:Left them feedback by renuncln · · Score: 1

      Please learn to spell it's |\/|1(0R$oF7

  3. wtf by FLAGGR · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you imagine the author, trying to keep a straight face? Poor guy, he wrote it so professionally

    1. Re:wtf by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That, and how about the proof reading proccess.

    2. Re:wtf by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      "That, and how about the proof reading proccess."

      Did they have to oursource it to some h4x0rz?

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    3. Re:wtf by RolandGunslinger · · Score: 1

      It was probably written by a 40 something who was highly dedicated to professional technical writing. But still, this looks pretty hilarious, some people don't get it I suppose.

  4. I couldn't resist... by afabbro · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Was This Information Useful?"

    No.

    "Thank you for telling us about your experience. Why was the article not useful?"

    Other.

    "Please tell us more".

    It was written by L4M3 D00DZ!!!1!

    "Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback."

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  5. Applied Practice by ehlertjd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, now try translating the following sentence:

    M1cr0$0f7 us35 l33t sploitz and m4d sk1llz to pwn $0ftw4r3 p4t3nts.

    1. Re:Applied Practice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Microsoft used elite expolits and mad skills to own software patents.

      Now give me my cookie!

    2. Re:Applied Practice by BRTB · · Score: 5, Funny

      okay, let's see here..... standard loose dialect, so this is probably close enough:

      "Microsoft takes advantage of its nearly infinite resources and thus its ability to manipulate the legal system in order to gain large quantities of overly broad software patents."

      The main difficulty in this sentence is that the common "pwn" has taken on many various meanings based on context and may not be properly translated. As always, IANAL (I Am Not A Linguist)

      >=]

    3. Re:Applied Practice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      no cookie for you! the number 5 would equal the letter S more closely than D wouldn't it?

  6. Excellent by generic-man · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can show Pure Pwnage to my parents and they will understand it perfectly. However, they may be concerned that teh_pwnerer is "involved in the theft of intellectual property, particularly licensed software" due to his use of expressions like "pwn."

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  7. From the Article... by isd_glory · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rules of grammar are rarely obeyed. Many leetspeekers will capitalize every letter except for vowels (LiKe THiS) and otherwise reject conventional English style and grammar.

    Kinda reminds me of Slashdot

    1. Re:From the Article... by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      You forgot the dot.

      This dot (".") is what i'm talking about.

      Oh, the irony.

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    2. Re:From the Article... by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Kinda reminds me of Slashdot

      1N s0v13+ M1kR0z0fT, |33t Sp33|Z j00!

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    3. Re:From the Article... by tuxedobob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      |.0.|.|.3.|2.5.|.4.7.3.5!

  8. My first time... by flibuste · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am so ....I can't describe the feeling... It's the first time I click "YES" at the question "Was this information useful" on a Microsoft web page.

    1. Re:My first time... by eyeball · · Score: 1
      That's funny. I clicked NO and got this message:

      We are experiencing technical problems. Sorry for the inconvenience. We are still interested in hearing your comments if you have time to provide your feedback. You can do one of two things. You can close this window, refresh your browser, and submit your comments. Or, you can try later.

      Thank you.

      The editors of At Home and At Work


      Maybe they were h4>0r3d
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    2. Re:My first time... by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

      My first time...

      Did you use a firewall?

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    3. Re:My first time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The feedback web site seemingly only works with IE.
      A pity.

  9. Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity... by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity: "warez" or "w4r3z": Illegally copied software available for download. "h4x": Read as "hacks," or what a computer hacker does. "sploitz" (short for exploits): Vulnerabilities in computer software used by hackers. "pwn": A typo-deliberate version of own, a slang term that means to dominate. This could also be spelled "0\/\/n3d" or "pwn3d," among other variations. Online video game bullies or "griefers" often use this term." I have never heard of sploitz, but its pretty obvious that M$ was trying to plug anti-piracy in the comment on part about Warez. Interesting that they didn't mention the term "p0rn". Any parents looking to learn leet should find guides from stuff like the Jargon File (http://jargon.watson-net.com/section.asp?f=cracke rs.html), not learn from Microsoft.

  10. :O by kereira · · Score: 3, Funny

    1'|) |_0\/3 70 533 |_337 |_0(4|_153|) 53771|\|G5 |=0|2 05s... That'll be the day, when my peers understand l337.

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    1. Re::O by JohnGalt00 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, google is almost its own OS... Google in L33T

    2. Re::O by Flame0001 · · Score: 1
      "I'd love to see leet localized settings for OSs"

      I think the problem is that we can't understand most unintelligable slashdotters...

      I think another problem is that I read that sentence at about normal speed.

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    3. Re::O by rivercityrandom · · Score: 1

      Wow, you can still access the old-style Google Groups in l33t mode! That should make all the people bitching about the new-fangled interface feel like k3wl d00dz :)

  11. That article pwns. by game+kid · · Score: 1
    TFA: "pwn": A typo-deliberate version of own, a slang term that means to dominate. This could also be spelled "0\/\/n3d" or "pwn3d," among other variations. Online video game bullies or "griefers" often use this term.

    At least they defined my favorite l33t w0rd. Otherwise TFA editors would have gotten spammed by me and t3h l33t p0l1c3!!1!

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    1. Re:That article pwns. by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 1

      Dating back to Starcraft, I was always under the impression that pwn was a contraction for "power own" - that is, to go so far above and beyond the minimum amount of ownage necessary.

    2. Re:That article pwns. by MostlyHarmless · · Score: 1

      I like that derivation, but it does sound to make like a backronym - an acronym invented after the fact. Likely, it just comes from o and p being right next to each other - so it's an easy typo to make, especially if you're firing off quick messages during an online clickfest.

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    3. Re:That article pwns. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To bring the level of the conversation even lower, I read that it means for Penis Ownage. So, to own someone means they're so inferior to you they're your slave, to pwn someone implies your victim is your sex slave. Racism and rape in one three letter declamation of superiority...

      Actually, it's probably another typo-word, like teh.

    4. Re:That article pwns. by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      I'd heard it stood for "pistol own", coming from FPS games, where the pistol was generally the weakest gun.

      The typo theory is probably correct, though. More people should use Dvorak.

  12. You know your child is a criminal if... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...he signs his email "l33t h4x0r" ...she makes more weekly on "w4r3z" than you make at a real job. ...his friend call him "Juarez". ...he wants to name your new born child "Fsck r0x0rs"

    Tip your waitresses, I'll be here all day. Tip me and I leave pronto.

  13. World of Warcraft by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In WoW you cant chat between factions, but you can use leet speek using numbers and other non-characters.

    Theres a plugin called "Universal Translator" so you can now type /uts Hi and it will translate it into [-]:1 uses ":" for uppercase and "." for lowercase. It also supports morse code.

    Not exactly the normal leet speak with letters, but it comes in handy in game.

    I've also seen this type of leet speak mix with hex as simple way to send chat in IRC and others wont be able to understand the garbage.

    The only one I dont get is "pwned", that just looks stupid.

    1. Re:World of Warcraft by kereira · · Score: 1

      The only thing you need to worry about 'pwned' is how to pronounce it.

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    2. Re:World of Warcraft by ZiZ · · Score: 1

      Whenever someone types 'pwned' at me, I pronounce it "DAMN YOU AIMBOT WALLHACKERS!"

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    3. Re:World of Warcraft by Alkaiser · · Score: 1

      It's not the l337 speak I mind so much.

      It's those n00bs who use l337 Morse Code.

      Bastards.

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    4. Re:World of Warcraft by karnal · · Score: 1

      I like telling people (when I'm doing bad) that the Aimbot I wrote sucks.

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    5. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what you get when your Aimbot's name is Marvin.

    6. Re:World of Warcraft by Incoherent07 · · Score: 1

      Two things.

      First, I hate leetspeak. I think it's a plague on the game, and that Blizzard should scramble non-alphabet characters in future patches.

      Second, I believe Blizzard has stated that the Universal Translator and similar plugins are beyond the acceptable use of the UI system. Reference here. This may lend ammunition to the idea that with the next content patch (ha!) they'll patch the language system.

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    7. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I hate leetspeak. I think it's a plague on the game, and that Blizzard should scramble non-alphabet characters in future patches.

      "Help- I-m being attacked by --- orcs-"
      "How many-"
      "----"
      "Sorry- HOW many-"

      In case you hadn't noticed, non-alphabetic characters are, you know, kind of useful for this thing called "communication"...?

    8. Re:World of Warcraft by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Funny

      What I can get is why we can read the other sides road signs if we do not share a common languagee.

    9. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a travesty against all that is good and decent.

    10. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only one I dont get is "pwned", that just looks stupid.

      Know what else looks stupid? People who don't close their tags when posting on Slashdot

    11. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      nonono, Marvin would convince the server to commit suicide.

    12. Re:World of Warcraft by smileyy · · Score: 1

      Because they're crafty like that.

      Like the time I was in the Arathi Highlands and said "Hmm...Hammerfall...that sounds like a good dwarven town I should check out..."

      (Hammerfall is actually a Horde outpost.)

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    13. Re:World of Warcraft by Incoherent07 · · Score: 1

      What I meant is that the language filter, which already scrambles letters (using a many-to-one hash which is thus more or less indecipherable), should also scramble other characters, since currently you can "communicate" so long as you use nothing but numbers and symbols. If you can already speak the language, this won't matter to you.

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    14. Re:World of Warcraft by Chibi · · Score: 1
      The only one I dont get is "pwned", that just looks stupid.

      Assuming when you say "don't get" you mean you don't understand... This is just my opinion of "pwned." But my guess is that it arose primarily from online gaming. Lots of people like saying that someone was "owned," but there are also tons of people who can't type, therefore "pwned" arose from this. It's not too different from "the" becoming "teh."

      If you meant you just don't see the humor in it, then different strokes for different folks. :)

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    15. Re:World of Warcraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one who pronounces it "Pawned?" and still thinks its in context? "I pawned you?" Sounds like a bad l33t chess game.

    16. Re:World of Warcraft by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      I usually pronounce it as "powned". Not to be confused with "boned".

  14. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by kereira · · Score: 1

    l337 has so many variations anyway it's almost pointless trying to learn specific terms, you gotta learn the entire language :P

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  15. The page is gone! by redune45 · · Score: 1

    I just was reading it and then refeshed the page, I now get "We're sorry, but there is no Microsoft.com Web page that matches your entry"

    Did Microsoft just find out about the page and decide that it was a little odd?

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    1. Re:The page is gone! by redune45 · · Score: 1

      I checked and The google Mirror still has it.

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    2. Re:The page is gone! by game+kid · · Score: 1

      I also checked and Microsoft still has it. Works fine to me.

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    3. Re:The page is gone! by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      I think Microsoft just felt a great disturbance in their force. We call it The Slashdot Effect. They call it OMGWTFBBQ WE'RE BEING HAXED BY LEET DOODZ.

      Note that they can't speak proper L33t, instead resorting to Sub-leet.

  16. Mod Parent Up(TM) please by game+kid · · Score: 1

    Where are teh Funny points? That was definitely not by a l4m3 d00dz0r. I think it's a d00z33 actually.

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    1. Re:Mod Parent Up(TM) please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? That post was idiotic.

      Fucking kids.

    2. Re:Mod Parent Up(TM) please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Get off my lawn!!!!

      *mumble* *mumble*

  17. Microsoft has been smoking? by generalleoff · · Score: 3, Informative
    a) Panama Red

    b) Acapulco Gold

    c) Purple Haze

    d) Maui Wowie

    1. Re:Microsoft has been smoking? by Trivialnight · · Score: 1

      I answer D, Bubbliciouslouy Sticky Maui Wowie

    2. Re:Microsoft has been smoking? by glowimperial · · Score: 4, Funny

      E) Freebase

    3. Re:Microsoft has been smoking? by the+original+m0nk · · Score: 1

      sorry, you misspelled FreeBSD.

  18. omgz0rz by davez0r · · Score: 5, Funny

    i'm sending this to my m0m

    well, not sending so much as printing it out and running it up to her (because i live in her basement)

  19. pr0n? by plastic_grass · · Score: 5, Funny

    did you find the information useful? no "what is the pr0n my son keeps talking about?" i need to know!

  20. Definitely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Yeah, parents who try to understand what their kids are doing, keep them out of trouble and generally, ya know, *parent* should be ridiculed.

    These matters should be handled through DRM and draconian laws.

  21. No no no. by sc0ttyb · · Score: 2, Funny
    pwning n00bz.

    Read the whitepaper.

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  22. This just goes to show... by Traegorn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This just goes to show that something really *is* completely uncool when Microsoft is writing guides to it.

  23. More useful than most by SteveX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously, I've seen some awfully lame attempts at describing online chat slang.

    "It's important to remember that the leetspeek community encourages new forms and awards individual creativity, resulting in a dynamic written language that eludes conformity or consistency."

    It's like they actually kinda get it.

    Compared to, say, http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,88686,p g,2,00.asp, where they include 'kiss' as 'keep it simple stupid'. Have you ever seen anyone actually use that in chat?

    fysbigtbabn = Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night

    Yeah right.
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    1. Re:More useful than most by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep it simple stupid???? That saying is older than the computer itself

    2. Re:More useful than most by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would point out: that one is listed under "acronyms we wish existed."

    3. Re:More useful than most by cephyn · · Score: 1

      Do you mean AWWEs?

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    4. Re:More useful than most by ConnectInterrupt · · Score: 1

      Compared to, say, http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,88686,p g,2,00.asp, where they include 'kiss' as 'keep it simple stupid'. Have you ever seen anyone actually use that in chat?

      HAhah PCworld isn't describing l33t silly, thats AOL chat!!! ROTFLLOLOMG!!!!11111 ^_^ :P

    5. Re:More useful than most by dougmc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's like they actually kinda get it.
      They actually do seem to get it. It was a well written article (and the one on dealing with griefers is good too) -- and while we make fun of it, I can certainly see how some parents who don't know much about that there intra-web could find it to be very useful.
      Compared to, say, http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,88686,p g,2,00.asp, where they include 'kiss' as 'keep it simple stupid'. Have you ever seen anyone actually use that in chat?
      I have, yes. Of course, it's more of a technical term than pwn3d. `KISS' has been around for a lot longer than l33tspeak.

      Another good (i.e. amusing) article is this one -- this slang I've generally not seen, but I guess I'm not a 15 year old girl pretending to be 25 on AIM either. But while I'd not be fooled by strange abbreviations, I realize that others might. Fortunately, my kids are still a bit over a decade away from being 15, so I've got some time to not pick up the new lingo.

    6. Re:More useful than most by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes and it's not really leetspeak.

    7. Re:More useful than most by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a list of the slang that the msn article references:

      http://www.teenangels.org/articles/sms2.txt

  24. teh 1r0nr|-|1|\|0 by ironrhino · · Score: 1

    pwnz teh m1cr0s0f7z0rz!!!!!!!!

  25. Strange by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There's nothing on Google about any l33t-localised version of Windows.

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    1. Re:Strange by yRabbit · · Score: 1

      "j00|2 534|2(|-| - teh 1337 wind0z3 v3r5i0n - c|1c| |\|07 |\/|4+(|-| 4|\|y c|0(V|\/|3|\|+5. 5|-|17!!!!"

      Hee hee, they said 5|-|17

    2. Re:Strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      read the first of their "5ugg357i0|\|5".

      - c0m3 0n D0od ch3ck y0ur 5p311i|\|g!

    3. Re:Strange by wraith0x29a · · Score: 1

      Maybe but check out http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/

      5w337 :)

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  26. Dammit, Microsoft can't do this to us! by drxray · · Score: 3, Funny

    l37z 5u3 th3|\/| u|\|d3r t3h D.|\/|.(.4.!

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  27. Gamer slang by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

    I notice they used the term 'glitch' instead of 'bug'. I've also noticed that in the gaming community 'bugged' is also used in place of 'buggy'.

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  28. An example. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    For example, "5" or even "$" can replace the letter S.

    Micro$oft
    1. Re:An example. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $la$hdot

      Anyone else remember when they didn't run ads for Panera Bread in places reserved for editorial content?

      I'm going back to fark.com. At least we know those links are paid for.

    2. Re:An example. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penny Arcade has already made a ruling on the use of '$':

      http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-11 -03

  29. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because nobody writes "p0rn" d00d!!!! It's pr0n.

    Combines the misspelling rule (teh = the) with the replace a number for a letter rule.

  30. WFT, this has to be a first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this has to be the fisrst time amost everone who has commented RTFA. OMG they need to have one that explains abbr. cu'z it r0x.
    i will STFU now.

  31. Not too bad by kongjie · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I read the article on griefers. It was okay, actually, considering a lot of parents don't have a clue about this kind of stuff.

    I'm just not very sure about how they expect this information to be used. Do they think that Johnny will go crying to his parents about griefing, and this will clue them in to the problem? I don't really see children complaining to their parents about something that they in many ways sees as THEIR domain, exclusive of parents.

    One thing I thought was missing was some ideas for parents of griefers themselves. How do you know your kid is griefing? What do you say to your child when you find out he is a full-time griefer?

    1. Re:Not too bad by Westacular · · Score: 1

      I agree. While the article has a good spirit and theoretically good advice in mind, I'm really not sure which audience would ultimately find it useful as it does seem to ask a lot of parents who I would guess generally regard videogames -- online or not -- as a child's independent means for entertainment.

      For instance:

      6. Report game glitches. Work with your child to identify exploitable glitches in the game or new methods of cheating. Report these to the game site administrator.

      While the idea of a parent being actively engaged in playing the game with his/her child is simply beautiful, it seems laughable that any parent who needed to read this article would have the skills or spare time needed to play with the child and do what the tip suggests. Generally speaking, there's going to be three types of exploits in a game:

      (1) Relatively obvious bugs that the company is already working/planning to fix
      (2) Bugs that have been reported but the company just doesn't care about
      (3) Hard-to-identify, obscure problems that have not been widely exploited.

      There's nothing a parent could usefully for (1) or (2), and as I suggested, (3) is almost certainly out of the parents' league.

  32. I understand their tactics by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 1

    It is so simple: by creating a 1337 d1x10n4r33, Microsoft attempts to ensure that 1337$p34k becomes totally unkewl. The best way to get a teen to drop his obsessive stupid behaviour is by legitimising it. W4y 2 go, Micr0$0pht!!!111!?@#*!!

  33. Solving the griefer problem by SilentJ_PDX · · Score: 1

    When I was 12, I saw a Gallagher comedy sketch where he proposed that you should be able to shoot little suction darts with a sign saying "Stupid" at cars when the driver does something dumb. That way, everyone will know who the stupid drivers are.

    Could a similar system work online? Maybe everyone gets 5-10 "abuse" tags each year. They can hand them out whenever they feel its appropriate.

    The top abusers could get dealt with in a number of ways: a big "ABUSER" sign, weapon/equipment/movement limitations, account termination (sadly... probably for a refund), server move, etc.

    Of course, you can tweak the number of tags and other parameters. Maybe you can only give one "abuse" tag to an individual every month (stops people from using all their tags on one person).

    1. Re:Solving the griefer problem by centauri · · Score: 1

      In Halo 2 on Xbox Live, I can give feedback about cheaters and other jerks. I think it's actually a feature of Live, but Bungie actually uses the data to kick people off Halo 2 for being jerky. In recent weeks I've noticed some improvement in the kind of opponents I face. It's nice.

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    2. Re:Solving the griefer problem by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

      I'm glad to see the system in action. I proposed a similar system for Starcraft called player policing when you can mark people as potential hacker. The problem with the system there is that its hard to tell who's a hacker. But Halo2 system works well because it marks people with abusive names or attitudes.

    3. Re:Solving the griefer problem by centauri · · Score: 1

      You can also mark people you think were cheating. Again, if they're good at it it might be hard to tell. However, if you're suspicious it would be worth tagging them, since Bungie claims to have ways to investigate the situation. I wonder if they have a way to go and look at past games in detail.

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    4. Re:Solving the griefer problem by Osty · · Score: 1

      In Halo 2 on Xbox Live, I can give feedback about cheaters and other jerks. I think it's actually a feature of Live, but Bungie actually uses the data to kick people off Halo 2 for being jerky.

      That is a feature of Live!. The feedback is not public, and nobody really knows how much feedback it takes to get someone booted (off of Live!, not a particular game). However, you can also leave good feedback, which may cancel out negative feedback.

      In recent weeks I've noticed some improvement in the kind of opponents I face. It's nice.

      More likely you've just worked your way up the ranks to a pocket of "nice" players. The lamers are above you (for the kids with nothing else to do but play H2 all day) or below you (because ruining your day often has a negative effect on rank, like team-killing).

    5. Re:Solving the griefer problem by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Yeah! And then we'll form a club with a number of people and we'll all give "abuse" tags to whatever person happens to pass by!

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    6. Re:Solving the griefer problem by SilentJ_PDX · · Score: 1

      That's why you limit the number of "abuse" tags each person gets significantly. You and your pals can go ahead and do that but you'll only be able to to it to 5-10 people *a*year*... I imagine that the threshold for top abusers would be high enough that your "club" wouldn't get anywhere near it.

      Obviously, a company would need to play around with the numbers (1 tag per month vs. 12 per year...) but I still think you could get this to catch the people who are idiots to everyone they meet.

    7. Re:Solving the griefer problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You mean like a karma system?

      I think it might need more work then that.

  34. 0h n0! by chalkoutline · · Score: 1

    "It's important to remember that the leetspeek community encourages new forms and awards individual creativity, resulting in a dynamic written language that eludes conformity or consistency" Oh god, they've turned 1337 into a corporate buzzword. I can see it now: 'M1cr050f7 1337: Promoting an individual creative environment that eludes conformity'.

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    1. Re:0h n0! by Xentor · · Score: 1

      The only thing more disturbing than the script kiddies talking like that... The idea of the corporate automatons doing it too...

      *shudder*...

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  35. Also, see this... by antdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    PBS' documentary on American language. It is going to get worse with these slangs. :(

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    1. Re:Also, see this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did they get cybercat from? I've never heard that.

    2. Re:Also, see this... by antdude · · Score: 1

      Good question. I never heard of it either.

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  36. ./ed by paulius_g · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft.com didn't get slashdotted? Damn, these Windows servers can take more than I've expected.

    1. Re:./ed by djh101010 · · Score: 1

      Most of Microsoft's static web content is served by Akamai, ever since the DDOS that pointed to windowsupdate.com. It was pretty entertaining to ask Netcraft what Microsoft was running and have it report (truthfully) that their web content was coming from Linux boxes.

  37. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1
    Interesting that they didn't mention the term "p0rn".

    Because it's "pr0n" and they probably couldn't find any examples on MSN.

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  38. lmao by tedgyz · · Score: 1

    I was horribly confused in Q3A when players were saying 'LMAO'. I thought it was some 733t code for 'lamer'. Turns out it means Laughing My Ass Off.

    And we expect peace in the middle east? We can't even get q3a players to communicate properly. :-)

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  39. What about B1FF??? by SirBruce · · Score: 2, Informative
    Bah. No mention of B1FFSPEAK, which I encountered long before the modern l33tspeak.

    Bruce

  40. Please... by andreMA · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...let it be that with it more widely known it dies a quick death.

    "l33tspeak" was never cool, is not "elite" and isn't spoken.

    Retarded, yes. Or about like pig-latin as an amusement for children.

    1. Re:Please... by BlueCodeWarrior · · Score: 2, Informative

      Isn't spoken?

      I've both heard it spoken and spoken it myself.

      PwN3D!!!eleven

    2. Re:Please... by dmauro · · Score: 1

      Word. I explained 1337 speak to a friend, and now I can't get him to stop saying "teh lamezorz." I say "teh" myself all the time. My friends just think I'm semi-retarded. Well, they're half right anyways.

  41. Article Aiming Wrong by saphint · · Score: 1

    You should not be aiming this article at the parents. For one, most parents have got no idea about compters or computer games. It should be aimed at gamers. I do agree at 'griefers' are an annoyance for all gamers, so what you should be trying to do is teach gamers how to deal with them, or they will most probably want to start griefing themselves as a revenge tactic. By all means inform the parents, but aim the extent of the article to gamers.

  42. Ugh by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this just serve to legitimize leetspeak as a form of communication? Kids today are already getting flunked out of their English classes for typing their papers the same way they text message their friends, with "u" and "r" instead of "you" and "are".

    Parents don't really need a guide to leetspeak - all they really need is to tell their kids that the more leet you try to be, the more ass you actually suck.

    1. Re:Ugh by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      The idea here is that when you're going through your kid's chat logs, you'll know WTF they were talking about.

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  43. Damn Microsoft by dghcasp · · Score: 4, Funny
    Now I have no incentive left to finish my magnum opus, "A stuffy british guy's guide to elite-speak." Microsoft owns this market.

    1 p0wn3d u: In the contest of skills that we just completed, I found myself victorious. Although this victory has no real meaning, I like to fantisize that if I went to the pubs and told a woman about it, she would shag me. If only I was old enough to go to the pubs...

    1. Re:Damn Microsoft by chrish · · Score: 1

      A winner is you!

      If I had mod points, you'd get the Funny.

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    2. Re:Damn Microsoft by {tele}machus_*1 · · Score: 1

      No incentive? Just based on that little blurb, I demand that you finish this guide! The MS article is amusing in that "Isn't it a little sad when we teach parents about youth culture?" way, but your thing is actually just plain funny. Do it!

  44. Feel old by tokyopimpdaddy · · Score: 1

    Well, I feel old now...all these elite hackers owning me, and knowing far more ASCII than I do. Some people will say these kids can't communicate correctly and say it's laced with poor grammar and spelling, but just maybe it's better to call someone a griefer online, than what I do which is grab a random bystander in a bar and shout "You bitch ass motherfucker!!"

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  45. Pak chooie unf. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please go stand by the stairs so I can protect you.

  46. Ham? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who 1337sp33ks ham?

  47. All your Free base are belong to GNU by tepples · · Score: 1

    With Microsoft, wouldn't it be Proprietarybase? Wouldn't Microsoft leave the Freebase to the pinko hippies of the Free Base Foundation?

  48. |\/|()|) P/-\|23|\|7 uP!!!11121one! by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

    They've cracked our code! I demand money!

  49. From the griefers article by Storlek · · Score: 2, Funny
    6. Report game glitches. Work with your child to identify exploitable glitches in the game or new methods of cheating. Report these to the game site administrator.

    Or... you "h4x0r" with your kids to "pwn" the "s3rv3r"?
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  50. Typical Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean taking over parts of the computer industry fine.

    Trying to compete with urbandictionary.com ?

    Now thats low.

  51. Perhaps the most... by Tufriast · · Score: 1

    ...Pathetic thing I have ever read. Quite frankly, if you need to read a primer on how to read l33t speak - you have failed the parenting test. Go turn your kid into the authorities, and sell your brain to the Bill and Melinda Gates Borg Foundation. This really does make me sick. If there are actually parents out there who are this degrading to children, and whom love ignoring their kid's privacy completely, then by all means - keep on MS...keep on screwing up humanity.

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    1. Re:Perhaps the most... by Sentack · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What are you nuts? You suggesting parents should get less involved with their kids? Not every parent is that involved in computers these days. They may look at them as a medium to check on news, write e-mail to family and friends and look up websites on fishing but you can't expect every parent to know the in's and out's of leet speak. This is information for parents to help them connect better with their children. These days people constantly talk about how parents are getting less involved and thus children are becomeing more involved in negative influences like narcotics, Gangs, and more. I'm not saying parents should turn into dictators, they just need to be educated into what their kids like and dislike. The more they can understand each other, the better I say. Neat article over all. Sentack

    2. Re:Perhaps the most... by Tufriast · · Score: 1

      No, not less involved - I'm saying that if you can't spot l33t speak off the top of your noggin' - there's something wrong with you.

      Thus, my plug about how parents should just hand in their brains given that. It takes more than a damn code, and some internet chat for a kid to turn to violence my friend. Sex, drugs, and booze do NOT live on Counterstrike, EverQuest, or The Sims.

      I'll tell you where they do breed though...go check out some poor jock's SUV, or some kid who has a parent that does drugs - and there you'll find problems. You won't find them within some child who loves computer games. As a matter of fact -- the most you'll have to worry about is him becoming a lazy bastard that plays games. Believe me, I was one of them.

      And yeah, lastly, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that parents can't, and don't have the time to keep up with every SLIGHTEST DETAIL of their lives - IE their chat patterns! The parents should be SPENDING time with the kids, playing with the kids, seeing movies with the kids, TALKING with the kids, and most of all PARENTING. That's what gets the job done. Reading an online article casually on the fly while browsing a crap corporation website IS NOT where you learn to be a parent. Oh, no. And don't go into the "Internet is a wonderful place to learn things" sector either. Pick up a book, and talk to a shrink - or better yet, spend time with the kid instead of on the web.

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  52. Almost like losing your virginity. . . by Excen · · Score: 0

    Except she's not crying and it probably took you longer.

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  53. so this is real? by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Does anyone actually "5p33|<" |_!|<3 7|-|15? I'm beginning to wonder whether it's not just a myth. "ur gay", yes, but "/\/\" for "M"? In realtime? Outside of ASCII art? Must be terribly inconvenient. No wonder they need to abbreviate two-letter-words! Anyway, I've never seen this extreme form of leetspeak in the wild, except when it's being made fun of. Then again, I don't play "those" games (much) and have no warez d00d acquaintances either. And as a retired author of embarrassing scrolltexts I've always made sure I ...oh, never mind. I never actually bothered making fonts with underscores or angle brackets. Or "@" signs. (What are those good for anyway, other than overwriting files on Commodores?)

    And not a word about "top posting/full quotes" on MS netiquette page.

    1. Re:so this is real? by s0me1tm · · Score: 1

      omg d00d >> u == l4mor!11oneone O_o I noticed that, with the crowd I hang out with, "lol" has become a regular word. So instead of laughing at something mildly funny, we'd say "lol" instead. Note: I speak dutch natively, and 'lol' is a word in dutch, meaning 'fun'

    2. Re:so this is real? by {tele}machus_*1 · · Score: 1

      If you ever played Counterstrike, you would have seen real 1337 all the time. I don't know how people type it so fast, but I figure they probably set up chat macros with the most commonly used phrases. Yes, gamers actually use this slang in the wild, including /\/\ for M.

    3. Re:so this is real? by Xentor · · Score: 1

      I'm a gamer, and the day I start talking like that (Other than here, when talking ABOUT it), is the day I put a gun to my own head...

      So we're not all illiterate morons.

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    4. Re:so this is real? by koreaman · · Score: 1

      I agree, the only time I speak it is when I'm making t3h ph|_|nz0rz of people who do.

  54. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry to be a spelling nazi, but I belive its 'pr0n'.

  55. Point 9 of the griefers list by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speaking as a person with a stereotypical slashdot-childhood; I don't think bullies actually need any kind of provocation. The only benefit of provocation is that bullies can pretend their actions are justified.
    In my experience both as a child and as a grown-up, bullies will find a "reason" even if there isn't one.
    Telling children not to use provocative names in online games is telling them the bullies win.

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    1. Re:Point 9 of the griefers list by elhedran · · Score: 1

      I'm not a griefer, but when someone has the name 'Iwillslayou' or 'youallsuck' I don't feel very sympathetic to that person. And getting to keep a provocative name isn't winning, its loosing.

      Not having a provocative name is good idea all round, not just because its a attraction for griefers, but because it degrades the game for everyone else anyway. That, and most people I have seen with theses names on WoW have turned out to be rather self-centered, and pathetic.

      Telling your child not to use provocative names is the same as telling them not to go up to bullies and say 'your just a bully cause you suck and I'm better than you.'

      I was all the things classically bullied in school, short, academic etc. But I wasn't bullied. I put this down to the fact that in my first few years of schooling I was a bully (Sorry). Here is what really worked for me (on both sides):

      Bullies really are (in their mind) trying to even the score. Just ignoring them altogether is seen as snobbish. Whereas an 'I'm bored' approach to their attempts at bulling but otherwise talking to them as if they were normal works extremely well. It takes away both the carrot and the stick. No reaction, no reward of feeling powerful, no snobbishness, no stick that makes them feel they need to dominate you.

  56. I guess they hired this guy by s0me1tm · · Score: 2, Funny
  57. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe the correct usage is "Pr0n".

  58. Best /. Article Ever by dmauro · · Score: 1

    This is awesome. That's about all I can really say. Oh, and I do have a question: I am a 1337$p34k3|2 if I use /. for slashdot? omg!

  59. Comedy rendering bug... by 10537 · · Score: 1

    I get a particularly apt rendering bug when looking at the page using FireFox. A grab can be seen here.

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  60. Illegal activity detected!!! by nathan+s · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity: ... "pwn": A typo-deliberate version of own, a slang term that means to dominate. This could also be spelled "0\/\/n3d" or "pwn3d," among other variations. Online video game bullies or "griefers" often use this term.

    The ??AA are on their way to lock you up, buddy.

  61. Got that right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there's nothing "semi-" about it.

  62. leet for dummies... by kullenwulf · · Score: 1

    Probably summed up in 3 words... n0t 4 j00!

    1 1334, j00 1334, bu4 wh0z 31334?

  63. Re:Leet words possibly indicating illegal activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is p0rn? I've never heard that term before.

    pr0n is cool, though.

  64. Examples by kryocore · · Score: 1

    I don't see pr0n on there as one of the examples of 'illegal activities' or 'other common l33t words'.

    1. Re:Examples by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      Try looking under "pron".

    2. Re:Examples by kryocore · · Score: 1

      Well, looks like they spelled it wrong then... heh

    3. Re:Examples by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      Well.... it is Microsoft. Embrace and extend, and all that.

  65. Did you search for anything by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

    Heh, I searched for "roflocopters" and it spit this back:

    "j00|2 534|2(|-| - roflocopters - c|1c| |\|07 |\/|4+(|-| 4|\|y c|0(V|\/|3|\|+5. 5|-|17!!!!"

    I like the last word there...

  66. Oh the irony... by Game+Genie · · Score: 1

    From TFA: "5" or even "$" can replace the letter S

    I wonder how anybody from M$ figured that one out...

  67. damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jesus now the feds can read my secret transmissions. thanks microsoft :(