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Google's DNA

bart_scriv writes "Businessweek confronts Google naysayers with an analysis of the company's business structure, arguing that its unique structure lends it the flexibility to adapt to any and all markets: 'Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely on stem cells: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit.' The article predicts significant changes for the company in communications, hardware, entertainment and localization and goes on to argue that Google is on the verge of achieving the holy grail of branding--being all things to all markets."

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  1. Googlemobiles! by yog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This comparison of Google to stem cells is rather hyperbolic. After all, many companies out there do almost everything. Microsoft has its fingers in a lot of pies, too, even though they have been playing catch up in most of the areas that they don't yet dominate. IBM is probably another example; though they're known for their computers, they are very big in software services, chip manufacturing and basic research, and they have internal projects going on a whole lot of interesting stuff that never makes it into the market.

    Google does have the coolness market cornered right now, though. They have continued to do a great job on their search engine, and their email, mapping, and other web services are really well done.

    I would like to see Google truly act like stem cells and develop a better car. I am willing to bet that a Googlemobile would be truly innovative. Probably it would come with builtin navigation tools such as Google Maps but beyond that it would be self-parking, highly secure from theft (because it runs Linux), and get terrific gas mileage--or else use some other less carbon-generating source such as alcohol or direct solar power.

    On a less whimsical note, there's a tremendous potential for Google in branding nifty handheld devices that have easy access to the world's online knowledge, incorporate speech recog and the like. I suspect that Google's move into urban wifi is a step in this direction; if they can control the airwaves and the receiving devices they will truly have vertical integration. And Microsoft will be even more annoyed, which is probably a good thing.

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    1. Re:Googlemobiles! by jellings · · Score: 1

      We created a googlemobile at home, but the baby wasn't interested in it...

    2. Re:Googlemobiles! by Bromskloss · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      From parent's sig:
      it's = "it is"; its = possessive. E.g., it's flapping its wings.
      "it's" = "it is" & "its" = possessive => "it's flapping its wings" = "it is flapping possessive wings"
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    3. Re:Googlemobiles! by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Google does have the coolness market cornered right now, though. They have continued to do a great job on their search engine, and their email, mapping, and other web services are really well done.

      True - but do remember that none of these are the product. Their main product is advertising space. Search/maps/email are just advertising.

    4. Re:Googlemobiles! by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      I thought the language of the article was a bit hyperbolic, but I thought that they might have a valid point -- that google's successful, functional software are written and directed from the ground up by *programmers*, not handed down from marketing and management. So a stem-cell (or a programmer's idea) has a chance to grow and blossom into something useful under the programmer's care, instead of management ordering programmers to develop a watered-down, group-think and market-speak developed product.

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    5. Re:Googlemobiles! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2
      highly secure from theft (because it runs Linux)

      Let's not go overboard with the fanboyism. A car is mainly a mechanical device. Theft = cutting the battery cable, dragging it onto a flatbed and driving away. No amount of code (Linux or not) can prevent that.

    6. Re:Googlemobiles! by bunnyman · · Score: 1

      I am willing to bet that a Googlemobile would be truly innovative. Probably it would come with builtin navigation tools such as Google Maps but beyond that it would be self-parking, highly secure from theft (because it runs Linux), and get terrific gas mileage--or else use some other less carbon-generating source such as alcohol or direct solar power.

      Yeah, but it would also monitor every place that you drive. Not to be evil, mind you, but to make suggestions about what stores you might like to drive to.

      It would always be in "beta," but that's okay, since Googlemobile Beta is still safer than a Chevy Corvair 1.0!

      And it would be totally free, as long as you don't mind looking at a few ads. But since it's invite-only, it would have an eBay value of $84,208. (Buy it now for $62,199!)

    7. Re:Googlemobiles! by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 1

      He has to mentione Linux in there somewhere, or he wouldn't be at (5, Interesting) right now :D

    8. Re:Googlemobiles! by geobeck · · Score: 1
      I would like to see Google...develop a better car.

      Unfortunately, the Googlemobile Beta(TM) would only run on paved roads. A gravel-road-capable version would be In Development(TM) for some time.

      Also, you wouldn't actually buy a Googlemobile. Each beta driver would receive twenty sets of keys which they could give to their friends to enable them to go pick up their own Googlemobile.

      It would have awkward handling too, because if its 2500-cubic-foot trunk (71-cubic-meter boot, for those across the pond).

      And when it occasionally crashed, you wouldn't be upset because it's just a beta, and Google would fix it without charge. And the Ajax-coded airbags would deploy quickly, even if their function was a bit jerky.

      The only real problem would be when you hit the brakes and it gave you a message saying "Function is temporarily unavailable."

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    9. Re:Googlemobiles! by shawb · · Score: 1

      The whole reason for the "stem cell" line was the will President Bush cap Google's eligibility at 78 stem cell lines bit. Just some journalist trying to sound clever by throwing out a piece of pop-trivia, but not realizing that it went out of fad to talk about it a while ago. And trying to craft some FUD out of thing air. The jab at G.W.B is just gravy on the cake.

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    10. Re:Googlemobiles! by muhgcee · · Score: 1

      The poster was joking about the googlemobile. Hence the start of the next paragraph.

    11. Re:Googlemobiles! by curunir · · Score: 4, Funny

      Googlemobile 0.8.12 beta

      Release Notes:

      - Added new feature that allows the car to integrate with Google's free Wi-Fi networks that would use your current location to find open parking spaces near you and indicate them on the Google Maps interface.
      - Added new DIY maintenance feature that allows you to search a database of thousands of repairs and receive instructions as well as maps to the closest retailers selling replacement parts.
      - Added feature to use the hot air generated by Google Fanbois (TM) as an energy source replacement for gasoline. The Googlemobile gets an EPA estimated 280 mi/GPA (Google Product Announcement).
      - Disabled optional feature to post back to Google that you're currently being cited for speeding or other driving infraction. The google network is no longer able to alert all other Google drivers that there are officers in that vicinity so that they can avoid being ticketed. This feature has been disabled pending the outcome of the class action suit filed on behalf of 10 separate state highway patrol organizations.

      End User License Agreement (EULA)

      This automobile is provided by Google "as is" and any express or implied warranties, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose are disclaimed. In no event shall google be liable for any direct, indirect, incedental, exemplary, or consequential damages (including, but not limited to, procurement of substitute goods or services; loss of use, life or profits; or business interruptions) however caused and on any theory of liability, whether in contract, strict liability, or tort (including negligence or otherwise) arising in any way out of the use of this automobile, even if advised of the possibility of such damage.

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    12. Re:Googlemobiles! by Ocho · · Score: 1

      ...nifty handheld devices... Sounds like you want Google to build the Mandarax. I'd buy one.

    13. Re:Googlemobiles! by kz45 · · Score: 1

      I think the point was that even though MS and other companies have their hand in just about any market they chose they are unable to do so easily. Look how difficult it was for them to break into the console market for example. MS also has a tendancy of letting other companies lead the way and once a market is proven they try to jump in and "900-pound-gorilla" their way to the top

      This is called an intelligent business strategy. Why take all the risk when someone else can do it for you?

      If we had no copyrights or patents, this would be happening in almost every market. Small company A releases a new product (with all of the research and time/money invested). Large company B could just come along and resell their product at a cheaper rate or just use all of their research and development to undercut them.

      Innovation would slow to a crawl, because the only people with the ability to take the hit from being undercut by other companies would be the large ones.

    14. Re:Googlemobiles! by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      It would be consistent with their business model... Not sure if they would actually do this.

    15. Re:Googlemobiles! by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have seen some people 'not get it' when it comes to jokes, but buddy you seriously need help. Run, don't walk, to your nearest 'humor store' and buy all you can. Seriously. Isn't there a help number for people like this?

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    16. Re:Googlemobiles! by drix · · Score: 1

      God damn.

      Wow!

      You sir, are denser than antimatter. From all of us here at /., we salute you, Mr. Wouldn't-Recognize-Humor-if-it-Physically-Attacked -Him.

      You may now proceed to masturbate to a desktop wallpaper of Natalie Portman.

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  2. Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This looks like an article written about the dot-com of the week in the late 90s. When all the hype dies down, Google will likely be a success like Yahoo -- solid, but not the most amazing company out there.

    1. Re:Good God by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good god indeed, google do no evil.
      Google ARE god.

      I can't decide who is the devil however, does he wear a turtleneck or does he throw chairs?

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    2. Re:Good God by RestartLater · · Score: 1

      Chair-throwing dude.

    3. Re:Good God by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's very insightful (sorry, no mod points at the moment :) Taking it a step further we thought back then that Yahoo had the potential to be amazing, but chose not to do anything really interesting. Today we see Google's potential. We'll just have to wait and see if they disappoint as well.

    4. Re:Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would not count Yahoo as a disappointment, the market just corrected for their being overvalued. The same thing will likely happen to Google. My point is, I don't think they will crash and burn like most did, but rather settle down to be on par with Yahoo.

      Many people will likely lose their shirts on Google stock, but I have no sympathy for people who should've learned before how dangerous it is to look at an overvalued stock as a long-term stable investment.

    5. Re:Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 1

      Turtleneck, ponytail, and sandles with socks.

    6. Re:Good God by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      The hype will never die down! Google is the best company out there, and they will never stop growing exponentially.

      That reminds me, I need to go buy some Google stock right now.

    7. Re:Good God by JollyFinn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's interesting point.
      Sales data:
                   Google   Yahoo
      2004           3.1      3.5
      Lastyear       6.1      5.3
      Q4 05          1.9      1.5
      CompanyPrice  122B      44B

      I don't expect Google to assimilate everything. But their sales is growing fast. There is quite good potential that Google grows to a company with 10Billion yearly profits, for which the sharevalue would be quite reasonable. Giving pretty good return on investment if that happens. And a small chance of growing to a company with more than 15Billion yearly profits.
      And its pretty certain that Google will be more successfull than Yahoo. But if Google cannot grow to its potential then its probably more successfull company than Yahoo and makes good bucks on advertisement, but nothing great enough to varrant its share value. 

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    8. Re:Good God by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Google has not been about hype for quite some time.
      First, the company has been around 8 years. After 6 years at Yahoo, the hype had LONG died down.
      Yahoo was a pioneer in the field, but they allowed a regular management team to take hold. IOW, they are a regular company.
      Google is about a totally different infrastructure. It is doing what many techies have said needed to be done. IMHO, they will remain this way until one of the 3 is gone, esp. because of Schmidt. They are more akin to Disney when it was run by Disney. In contrast, companies such as Yahoo and MS are more akin to the Eisner Disney of the last few years; Just trying to make as much money as possible in any way possible in as short time, regardless of the future.

      Of course, the problem with all this, is that once one of the fab 3 go, I suspect that business people will try to push Eisners, Gates, and Semels on the company. Then be wary of ppl like that, with the power of Google behind them. That could be truely evil.

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    9. Re:Good God by jobugeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually Google getting added to the S&P 500 might save it from such a crash. By being included, it is held by tons of S&P mutual funds. That combined with the realtively low number of shares available, I would expect Google shares to stay in the 250-350 range for quite some time.

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    10. Re:Good God by balsy2001 · · Score: 1

      If google makes this years earnings estimates (which there is a great chance of) it will only have a PE of 40 (yahoo's forward looking PA is about 60), which is not that overvalued at all. You have to look at value per share (each share this year should earn between $8-$11) not absolute cost per share.

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    11. Re:Good God by SpecBear · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty strongly pro-Google (I own shares), but I read this article and kept thinking "Oh God, please make it stop."

      I think you're right. We're witnessing the birth of the next dotcom boom. And this is gonna be one ugly baby.

    12. Re:Good God by mooingyak · · Score: 1

      Borrow a page from the Christians for a moment, and allow the Devil to have multiple incarnations (the chair, the turtleneck, and the unholy... something).

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    13. Re:Good God by jgc7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      being listed on the S&P 500 will do nothing to mainain the value of the company. The stock price is based on the price at which two parties are willing to trade. Mutual funds owing the shares does nothing to support the price, although the automatic required buying can have temporary, albeit a modest impact on the stock price.

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    14. Re:Good God by budgenator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that google is more in tune with what they are not, than what they are, so it would take more than a few years to corrupt its' carefully crafted culture. Google is a business embodyment of the unix phillosophy, small well made tools that are designed to do one or two things well and can be piped together in ways not originaly anticipated; this concept is too alien for most "suits" to get their heads arround.

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    15. Re:Good God by anaesthetica · · Score: 1
      I can't decide who is the devil however, does he wear a turtleneck or does he throw chairs?

      Let's not try to shoehorn this into a monotheistic or dualistic metaphor here.

      I would liken Microsoft to Saturn perhaps. Google and Yahoo! (and perhaps Apple's current Jobs 2.0 incarnation) represent the Gods of Olympus. The Web 2.0 companies are the various assorted nymphs and sprites.

    16. Re:Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. Many software companies have had the same technical philosophy and failed miserably. The "suits" are concerned with money -- there is a reason we call it the bottom line. Google is horrendously overvalued; its stock price is not in line with its earnings or assets. Just compare its market cap to stockholder equity.

    17. Re:Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 1

      Although that will temporarily drive up their stock price from the index funds purchasing shares, just remember that for every company added to the index, one must be removed.

    18. Re:Good God by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Google's stockmarket value has absolutely NOTHING to do with the company, their technology or how they are run. The value is what others are assigning it. Just because ppl are buying it at a high price is not a reflection of the company.

      As to the company itself, it is being ran differently and made differently. Long term, it will produce more great products (as opposed to just copying or stealing them). It is probably a good buy, even at this price, assuming that you are buying for a decade or two (if you are buying it for a couple of years, you are making a mistake).

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    19. Re:Good God by bhirsch · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but overvalued it overvalued. Why Do you think that the founders are selling their shares off as fast as legally possible? The first rule of investment finance is that MNCs exist to make money for the stockholders -- mainly by increasing share value.

  3. Uh oh, don't tell the President about this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    "'Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely on stem cells"

    Don't let Bush know! He'll demand that they do not produce any new products based on new stem cells, but only using existing stem cells. After all, using new products would be tantamount to murder and might upset his base.

    If Google succeeds, the terrorists win.

    1. Re:Uh oh, don't tell the President about this! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, even the prez will be happy if you can by Google brand gasoline. Remember, Google can adapt to all markets. ....please, spare me this article Slashdot

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    2. Re:Uh oh, don't tell the President about this! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If Google succeeds, the terrorists win.

      Clearly, all Google searches must be forwarded through AT&T servers, and hence to the NSA. All this will be done at the expense of Google, after all, they're Google's packets, on the NSAs network.

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  4. Re:DUPE! I Already found this on google search. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    Actually, its a site called abusedshoes.com however I'm afraid to click, maybe some more fetishist slashdotters could check it out (or I could just wait until I show my missus later - shes the shoe person in the family)

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  5. Yes, sure... by StevenHenderson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    a brand that is built entirely on stem cells...

    But don't stem cells become static and defined after some time? I hate to say it, but I think the innovation well will dry up eventually.

    1. Re:Yes, sure... by caffeinemessiah · · Score: 1
      I disagree with you. Funding and markets might dry up, but innovation in computer science is cheap. As long as they keep hiring smart people, they'll keep having at least some smart ideas. Or at least as long as there are startups looking to be swallowed up, there will still be innovation.

      If anyone still cares about the latest Google beta in five years, now that seems more interesting...

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  6. Google's DNA by eviloverlordx · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't wait to see the horrible, mutant creation that they come up with. I mean, there's no point in using DNA unless you can make monsters.

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  7. Flash in the pan by ThreeE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google is just another dot-com flash in the pan. There is nothing about Google's business model that provides any more sustainable competitive advantage than any other firm. Is Google a success? Is it an admirable company? Yes -- in many ways. Will that change? Count on it.

    Treat Google like any other company: sprinkle its stock in a nice diversified layer over your other holdings.

    1. Re:Flash in the pan by caffeination · · Score: 3, Funny
      Ah, the stock market, the zodiac of the rich...

      GOOG stock holders:
      Beware of irresistible new offers, as the dotcom constellation will soon be heading back between Mars and Venus

      MSFT stock holders:
      Potentially hard times are coming. It's too early to say what the outcome will be, but the proximity of Jupiter to Neptune doesn't bode well.

  8. Oh Great Google by OSS_ilation · · Score: 3, Funny

    >>Google is on the verge of achieving the holy grail of branding--being all things to all markets. When I'm driving my GoogleCar into my GoogleGarage after a long drive along the GoogleTurnpike, guided by my GoogleGPS to have dinner prepared by my Froogle-provided Russian mail order bride, then we'll talk.

  9. Big multinationals by mcai8rw2 · · Score: 1

    I would hardly call google the 'first' company to be able to take any form it sees fit. I would rather attribute this skill to any large multiunational company with enough money to do so. I am sure that M1cr0S0ft could have done such, had it been that way inclined.

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    1. Re:Big multinationals by akozakie · · Score: 1

      In fact there were such companies already, an guess what - it doesn't work all that well in the long run. Just see Daewoo. Cars, CRTs, microwave ovens, steel, you name it. Remember what happened a few years ago? Cuts, cuts, cuts...

      Well, maybe the problem wasn't that they did everything, just that they overexpanded... But this is easier to correct if you have a well defined primary business area. There is a limit to growth - expand too fast and you're a dead company. It's difficult to see whether you overinvest if your bussiness is so diverse.

      Of course software is quite a bit different, but the dotcom bomb proved that it's not as different as we tend to think.

      You know the polish word for a large syndicate/corporation (hmm, what's the right word...) like Daewoo? Koncern. Interesting coincidence. ;-)

  10. Time to short Google... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Businessweek confronts Google naysayers with an analysis of the company's business structure, arguing that its unique structure lends it the flexibility to adapt to any and all markets..."

    If that's true, then pick one or two and excel in those markets the way you excel in adwords.

    I hate to say it, but Google reminds me more and more of Netscape in 1996. Both companies were leaders with strong brand names and one great product (web browser, search engine, etc.). However, Netscape utterly failed to build on their success, squandered their brand name and was eventually equalled and bettered by Microsoft. I see the same thing going on now with Google as they lurch from one non-profitable project to another and other competitors start eyeing the search engine market again...

    1. Re:Time to short Google... by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's certainly true, and like Netscape, Google has one competitor that it should be especially wary of: Microsoft.

      When IE on Vista defaults the homepage to an MSN search page that actually works nearly as well as google, you have to wonder if most people (obviously not all people) will bother typing in google.com at all.

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    2. Re:Time to short Google... by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      There's a bit of a difference in that Google has a genuine revenue stream and is turning a profit, whereas Netscape (as I recall) hadn't achieved that sort of stability.

      In other words, Google took its great product (search engine) and successfully took it to market (via advertising). Building a great new business requires both a great product and great business execution in establishing a market for it, and Google has excelled at both ends so far.

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  11. Grails by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    I don't know about "all markets". Steven A. Silvers seems to own kids' googling.

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  12. But if Google's DNA is so adaptable... by Billosaur · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...doesn't that make it a virus? It can basically spread from one place to another, adapting to each new "host" as it goes.

    Now, before the "Troll" stamps come out, I'm not saying this is necessarily bad, though this does tend to make Google a... wait for it... monopoly. Yes there are competitors, but they seem a distant second right now and are probably going to remain so if the article is true. I doubt Yahoo can modify its culture to compete directly with Google.

    Google's strength in being so adaptable is in the power it gains with each arena it moves into. If Google truly wants to be the planet's information source, there will come a point that it is so large yet so tenuous and amorphous, that no government will be able to go around it. This means trouble for a United States hell bent on spying on people or a China trying to rewrite history and keep fresh ideas coming in in a controlled fashion.

    The question now becomes, has Google learned the Spiderman lesson -- will they treat their great power responsibly?

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  13. all hail the new economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Long live the synergistic DNA based information economy. The paradigms of old cannot explain the morphous structure of such a groundbreaking and globulous company. It's ability to dynamically adapt to multi-faceted environments while leapfrogging the pure-play biases of old while creating a new dynamic for business is absolutely staggering. Business, debt, and equity analysts falter before this new way of business that completely destroys the old business paradigm while thinking out of the box in it's ultimate goal to deliver real-time, free, services while caraessing the consumer mind with visually appealing and sensual avertisements, enticing consumers to spend their way into further debt laden lives, for which there will be an exit once GOOG becomes the master of their domain and ensures economic growth of 30% per year, creating a perpetual economic boom and a wonder economy unparalled in history, even considering post-WW2 German and Japanese growth. Spearheading this will be the awesome leadership of GOOG that will never become a 800lb gorilla as they dynamically and deftly work their way through the maze of business. They will never grow to large to innovate quickly and will always be lean and agile in their persuit for the ultimate goal, the highest P/E ratio known to man and a stock price in excess of the greatest investor of all time's company, Bershire Hathaway, which is nothing more than a speck of dirt imagined by an intellectual dolt, as he cannot fathom the sheer genious of the DNA structure at GOOG.

    I pity the fools.

    1. Re:all hail the new economy by Spokehedz · · Score: 1

      Bingo! I win!

  14. Google$oft by Itsacon · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Problem I see with google, is the way they're slowly creeping into everything.
    They've pretty much killed off all competition in the search engine business. Sites I used when I started using the web, like Altavista and AllTheWeb are now even copying Googles layout!
    In Holland the verb 'to Google' has actually been added to the dictionary, I believe.

    This isn't necessarily a bad thing, since Google is/was simply the best. It does mean however that pretty much all Internet searching is done through Google, which gives it the same possibilities for abuse as MicroSoft had a while back in the desktop PC market.
    Already the amount of ads on a Google page is increasing by the day, as is the amount of sites that use those Google text-ad. (any more people out there who have pagead2.googlesyndication.com blocked?).

    One of Google's CEO's has been heard to say:
    `We are moving to a Google that knows more about you.'
    And of course we've all heard of the 40-year cookies and what not.
    I'm not exceptionally paranoid, but put it all together and something in my head says `1984'... To those who want to be on the safe side, I heartily recommend Scroogle. Cheers.
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    1. Re:Google$oft by Bogtha · · Score: 1

      This isn't necessarily a bad thing, since Google is/was simply the best. It does mean however that pretty much all Internet searching is done through Google, which gives it the same possibilities for abuse as MicroSoft had a while back in the desktop PC market.

      Not in the slightest. There is a massive difference between Microsoft's monopoly and Google's monopoly. Google's monopoly doesn't lock you in.

      Switching from Windows to another operating system means replacing all the software that is dependent on Microsoft's APIs or finding an operating system that can emulate those APIs to the extent that your software needs.

      Switching from Google to another search engine is as simple as putting a different address in your web browser.

      Even where Google can make it difficult to switch away, they don't. For example, if you want to switch from GMail, you can download all your email via POP3. It's actually easier to switch from GMail than to GMail.

      There really isn't any point in comparing Google to Microsoft, because the only real similarity is that they both have massive market share.

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    2. Re:Google$oft by caffeination · · Score: 1
      While I disagree with your comparison to Microsoft, thanks so much for the pagead2.googlesyndication.com tip!

      It's in /etc/hosts now and forever, and it fucking rules! If I ever want something cool to do, I'll think of some clever thing for pagead/show_ads.js, but for now it's nice to be missing out on ads without resorting to crappy bloated Firefox extensions.

    3. Re:Google$oft by balsy2001 · · Score: 1

      your definition of "prety much all" is kind of wierd. Yahoo is still has a market share in the 20s and Microsoft is in the teens.

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  15. It ain't BusinessWeek's opinion... by Jivha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the article is written by Gabriel Stricker from BrandChannel. The tone seems to be a typical marketing/branding kind - lots of high-sounding assertions and phrases, and very few solid justifications for the same.

    For instance, check this sentence: "Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of stem cells: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

    Huh? World's first company? Built entirely of stem cells? Into whatever it sees fit?

    What is this guy smoking?

    Google's decision to branch into many unrelated/related ideas is not due to any stem cells or mitochondria, but simply because it has enough money and talent to do so. More importantly, the stock market that usually punishes companies for expanding too fast/too much still seems to be in awe of Google.

    Imagine Microsoft deciding to enter into server harware, or Sun into smartphones, or Dell into online dating! But when Google does it, its suddenly "stem cells" in action!

    1. Re:It ain't BusinessWeek's opinion... by bec1948 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You and several others comment on ""Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of stem cells: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

      I think you're missunderstanding the point of the "stem cell" metaphor: That most of the products/services that Google is offering aren't solutions themselves, but rather are means to solutions which remain in the hands of the users or perhaps more approrpriately, independent developers.

      Google Earth is fun. Building applications on top of it, whether something as mundane as HBO's Sopranos marketing effort, or more interesting like the Nike jogging paths is what's interesting. All of these things subsist on a Google platform. In this case it's Google Earth. From another view it might be Maps, or Froogle, or ..."

      That's what the stem cell idea is about. Google is a platform vendor (See Dave Winer for the definition I'm using). In fact, extending the metophor, the Google brand is the platform and each nacent cell of a product/service are the meta-APIs of the platform.

    2. Re:It ain't BusinessWeek's opinion... by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      Obviously they are harvesting their workers for stem cells. They are probalbly keep in fluid vats, like the Matrix. That would also explain their great employee morale because they all believe they are living in the Playboy mansion. Life at Google is sweet!

    3. Re:It ain't BusinessWeek's opinion... by garns · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the clone Shakies Pizza (SouthPark) be the first made entirely from Stem Cells?

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      "My father once told me that respect for the truth comes close to being the basis for all morality." - Muad'Dib
  16. Blather by Weedlekin · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to the article, Google is a company like no other because it is producing its own versions of things that already exist. Perhaps I've missed the point, but from where I'm sitting, this actually seems to be something that nearly every company does, and many of the bigger ones have their fingers in a lot more pies than Google do.

    IMO rather than proving Google are somehow "built almost entirely out of stem cells", this actually shows that Businessweek publishes artices built almost entirely out of bullshit.

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    1. Re:Blather by caffeination · · Score: 1

      10-38! 10-38! Outsider blabbing about auto-article system!

  17. Google falls short... by PenguinBoyDave · · Score: 1

    We here in Slashdot land are not known to like "shiny, pretty" things...we like functional. However, the vast majority on computer users like pretty guis, etc. that they can click click click and be done. Google is a great search engine, and they have some great technology. However, until Google decides to make it's portal functional for the masses as YAHOO does, I don't think Google will be all things to all people. It will remain all things to all geeks. YAHOO will remain all things to all people.

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    I'm not a troll, but I play one on Slashdot.
  18. Hmmm by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is on the verge of achieving the holy grail of branding--being all things to all markets.

    The fastest and surest was to displease everyone is to try and please everyone.

    -Grey

  19. Let's not forget about Google's evil side... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The nonsense about AdSense

    Remember how in US airports a person could be denied to take a flight, but due to "national security" wasn't allowed to see which law was applied? "National security". Um... yeah. Right.

    Well, Google can remove your membership because of "Click fraud", but due to "trade secret" you weren't allowed to see the fraudulent traffic.

    Um... yeah. Right.

    1. Re:Let's not forget about Google's evil side... by caffeination · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whereas the first case is a shameful example of government abuse of power, the second is a case of a private company applying their own rules that you have to consciously accept and sign up to. Nothing evil about that at all.

  20. All things... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny
    being all things to all markets.

    Google Beer. I can hardly wait!

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
    1. Re:All things... by moochfish · · Score: 1

      Google Condoms! I can hardly wait!

  21. Overvalued.... by Hits_B · · Score: 1

    I'm not knocking Google. I've been using it as a search engine since the beginning. However their financial stats scare the hell out of me. A stock price of over $400 per share. A market cap of $122 BILLION (Microsoft is $281 billion; Apple $58 billion)and a P/E of more than 80. An investor should be veryyy cautious about playing with this one.

    1. Re:Overvalued.... by caffeination · · Score: 1
      Are you implying that it's like some sort of spherical "bubble" structure? Yeah right...
      Ooooh it's a big scary bubble, I'm so scared!! I'll just poke it with my trusty bubble identifier and...[transmission ends]
      You crazy Slashdotters... bubble? burst? Humbug!
    2. Re:Overvalued.... by balsy2001 · · Score: 1

      A PE of 80 is based on last years earnings. It will be 40 this year. Investors on wall street pay up for growth and google has a lot of that. Last quarter they missed estimates when they only got 80% revenue growth from the previous year.

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  22. Meaningless Metaphor by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the article: Google Entertainment? Yeah, its DNA can do that...

    Google Hardware? Genetic mission accomplished... The stem-cell question for prospective consumers is, Where would you prefer to buy this hardware...?


    Guys like the author are the reason scientific terms get degraded and clouded in the mind of the public. £10 says this guy couldn't give a coherent description of DNA, stem cells OR why he thinks they apply to the business world.

    -Grey

  23. Re:Over the top? by typobox43 · · Score: 1

    "web X.X" Death by anime face overload?

  24. Like Chocolate by BodhiCat · · Score: 1

    And Toyata Cars can use their brand recognition to sell Toyota Chocolate, so what?

    1. Re:Like Chocolate by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
      Actually, that's precisely the sort of example that made me think the 'perfect brand' thing was rubbish.

      Would people buy Google Chocolate? Google Motorbikes? Google Bookshelves? Google Hifi Speakers? Google shoes? Google clothes? Google perfume? Google food?

      Outside of their 'cool tech things' bracket, they have just the same problem as other brands. People have heard of them, but I'm not sure that would help them all that much - not over and above the recognition any other brand gets. Sometimes that doesn't even help them - I know I wouldn't buy Google Orkut :-)

      What they're probably really saying is that Google doesn't really mean anything, so it's a flexible brand name. Unlike Nike, Adobe, Sony, Apple...

    2. Re:Like Chocolate by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
      Well, I'd say it means more than just searching now (although "google it" is still widespread usage obviously) - the products you mention such as mail, maps, etc mean that people are aware of Google as a 'tech company' now rather than just a search engine, which was all I meant really. Their brand means more than one product, and the name has no semantics in the traditional sense (other than a corruption of googol) and is a bit more nebulous now - i.e. as I said, similar to Sony, etc.

      Well, compared to the example of Toyota, for instance. Toyota makes people think of cars (perhaps vehicles in general), but nothing else (as far as I know).

      Of course, most brand names are chosen these days to be ciphers which the marketing people imbue with meaning via their l337 skillz, but not all names are. Microsoft is an obvious one (also relatively old, of course).

  25. I love by borganha · · Score: 1

    DNA analogies. They are so true.

  26. Yeah, but... by SRain315 · · Score: 1
    would you:

    - drink Google Beer?

    - wear Google Glasses?

    - drive a Googlemobile?

    - see a movie at the Googleplex?

    - wear Google #5 parfum?

    - wipe with "don't squeeze the Google!"

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    --- Corporations Are A Fad.
    1. Re:Yeah, but... by jeff67 · · Score: 1
      - wear Google Glasses?

      Maybe Google Goggles?
  27. Confused Author by eander315 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The author was obviously not a Biology major. They've based their whole article on a mixed metaphor:

    "What naysayers don't understand is that the DNA of the Google brand is unlike anything ever seen in the modern market landscape. Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of stem cells: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

    I'm not really sure what DNA has to do with stem cells in this sense. The first sentence implies we're going to hear about Google's "parents", perhaps the companies the employees worked at before coming to Google. The following sentence about stem cells is comlpetely unrelated, as DNA isn't really what makes stem cells interesting, especially not in this case.

    I know it's kind of nitpicky, but frankly it's annoying to see this kind of stuff when the audience is relatively scientifically well-versed, at least compared to the general public.

    1. Re:Confused Author by K-Man · · Score: 1

      The important thing is that the author was able to pick a few important-sounding terms and place them decoratively throughout the paragraph. In this case he chose biology.

      Let's take a look at what would have happened if the author had material from some other field:

      Cooking:

      "What naysayers don't understand is that the garlic of the Google brand is unlike anything ever seen in the modern market landscape. Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of chicken stock: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

      Weather forecasting:

      "What naysayers don't understand is that the jet stream of the Google brand is unlike anything ever seen in the modern market landscape. Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of tropical depressions: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

      Bush Administration:

      "What naysayers don't understand is that the classified information of the Google brand is unlike anything ever seen in the modern market landscape. Google is actually the first company with a brand that is built entirely of Homeland Security: able to grow and develop into whatever form it sees fit."

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      ---- "If we have to go on with these damned quantum jumps, then I'm sorry that I ever got involved" - Erwin Schrodinger
  28. business cycle by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I dunno, I'm always suspicious of someone claiming we've reached some sort of philosophical (or marketing, business, educations, military, scientific, literary, etc) "endpoint".

    Businesses go through cycles of "diversification" (hey, I worked for a freight forwarder that owned gold shares in RSA) followed by "focus" (when someone asks why a car maker owns resort hotels and travel agencies). The business MODEL in general might go through meta-versions of these cycles, where diverse, widely ranging businesses are successful and rewarded in the marketplace and then eventually constrict to where narrow-focus seems to be preferable.

    Google is a great company, as far as I can tell. Kind of the "Magical Trevor" of the business world...for now.

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    -Styopa
  29. Analogies are like dandelions. by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    They grow everywhere. They are showy and fun for kids to play with. They are showy and superficially attractive, but in reality are destructive weeds that need to be mercilessly extirpated. They can lead to false conclusions, such as that there must be a way to brew wine from analogies. In the end, their seeds are carried by the wind and, thus, they blow.

    1. Re:Analogies are like dandelions. by njh · · Score: 1

      They are showy and superficially attractive, but in reality are destructive weeds that need to be mercilessly extirpated.

      Sorry, your analogy breaks down here - dandelions are fantastic at extracting minerals from poor soils for compost.

  30. Basic Principle of Human success by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the basic principle behind all human success.

    Our species survived by outsmarting and overwhelming its game. Coming from all directions, cutting off an animals exits except over a cliff or into the spike lined pit. Spears and fire just helped drive the animal. Until those weapons became more advanced.

    Today, the military tries to do the same thing; Come from every direction, with so many different weapons, so many different strategies, each co-opted for their strengths that the enemy can't challenge them. Of course when not all the exits are covered, the enemy squeezes itself into whatever style can continue to combat, like terrorism.

    Finally, Google is (trying) to do the same thing, trying every strategy and good that they can do well, each individually improving and co-opting themselves/each other. Inadvertantly, this also squeezes out Google's competition, giving them even more room to operate.

    While eventually the success of so many different strategies will meld into a more singular path, limiting innovation, until it does it will be good.

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    Demented But Determined.
  31. Let's see... by 2names · · Score: 1
    should't it be:

    "it\'s" == "it is" && "its" == "possessive"

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    "I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
  32. The most controversial feature would be... by Mille+Mots · · Score: 1
    would like to see Google truly act like stem cells and develop a better car. I am willing to bet that a Googlemobile would be truly innovative. Probably it would come with builtin navigation tools such as Google Maps but beyond that it would be self-parking, highly secure from theft (because it runs Linux), and get terrific gas mileage--or else use some other less carbon-generating source such as alcohol or direct solar power.

    But, in some countries it would only run on government approved roads. In other countries it would run on all roads, but report back to the government where you've been.

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    Someone had to say it.

  33. Google Is (Almost) Pure Marketing by aldheorte · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Others have pointed out that this article is very hyperbolic, but Google itself is built entirely on hyperbole. It is perhaps the greatest con job ever perpetrated on Wall Street and the business community, and on its own terms. Look at what Google has become. Google is just Yahoo more than five years ago, just with a better interface and a stronger marketing brand.

    Let's look at the main services Google has rolled out: Search, News, Mail, Maps are the principle ones. All available on Yahoo fairly quickly after the Web took off. Image Search and Froogle - I'm not necessarily sure that Yahoo had these linked off their main site, but such search engines for images and pricing did exist back when Yahoo had reached critical mind share and Google was relatively unknown. It's arguable as to whether the improved interfaces are because of good design, or more capable Web browsers (I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between).

    This is not to impugn Google's business acumen. In fact, they have proven themselves most capable in this respect. Heck, they were even dictating to Wall Street how their IPO would go. But the bottom line is that Google has offered absolutely nothing truly new that wasn't available years and years ago when you look at the big picture of service offerings. They are simply another Web portal, which were in vogue around 1997 or so. I know people will come out of the wood work saying well they have this beta lab app that Yahoo didn't have, but, you know what? That's a beta lab app. Until they roll it out and no one else has it, big deal, and, from a business perspective, is there actually a revenue stream there or is it just a technical novelty? The only actual significant thing that Google does that makes money is sell text ads.

    The question now becomes how long can Google keep this marketing charade up before people realize it's just another Web portal and move on? So far, so good, but keep your fingers crossed.

  34. Re:Everything in all markets? by Andrew+Kismet · · Score: 1

    heheeheee, whenever I think about Yamaha I imagine a keyboard strapped to the handlebars of a motorbike... and you play it to steer it.

    Maybe I'm losing it...

  35. Stem cells and abortion... by SuperGus · · Score: 1

    ...are not inextricably linked, but in this case they should be. When people start talking about companies in terms of grand metaphors like stem cells and "all things to all markets," it's time to abort the stock. The days of meaningful growth are peaking.

    Call it the business analysts' version of jumping the shark.

    Happy Days and Long Nights -
    - Supergus

  36. The new Madlib! by ZenKen · · Score: 1

    is so cool it's just like . was the old way of doing things in . Didn't we use Madlibs during the dotcom bubble?

    1. Re:The new Madlib! by ZenKen · · Score: 1

      _insert new corporate brand_ is so cool it's just like _insert new biological controversy_. _insert older biological phenomenon_ was the old way of doing things in _insert old corporate brand_.

      Didn't we use Madlibs during the dotcom bubble?

  37. Stem Cells by fm6 · · Score: 1
    Sure, big companies do a lot of different things. But the decision to do something new usually comes from the top. Individual contributors can suggest new stuff, but it's up to management whether the company goes forward with a new idea, and how the idea is implemented.

    At Google, most new ideas are dreamed up and implemented by individual contributors. That's why the search engine keeps getting cool new features without any prior notice. That's a good way to drive innovation. Problem is, that leaves everybody doing what they feel like doing, and nobody doing the boring stuff like adding the uninteresting things that make a mature product, or making sure that every obscure syntax feature is properly documented.

    The result is a company that seems to announce some really cool product or feature every week — but hardly ever produces a mature version of anything. Gmail, Google maps, all the little tools built into the search engine... These are all really power, innovative, useful, widely imitated products and features. But they're all badly documented, or very much a beta product (I don't just mean they have a "beta" label, I mean lacking in basic features) or both. Excusable when these things were pushed out the door — but some of them have been in "beta" mode for years.

    So the stem cell comparison is actually pretty apt — in both a positive and negative sense. The positive sense is that you have a lot of people creating stuff on their own initiative. The negative sense is that these are not healthy stem cells.

    Healthy stem cells work because they each have a complete plan of the human body, and can fill in wherever they're needed. Google stem cells just go and do what they think is important, and have no sense of the needs of the company as a whole.

  38. For that strategy, it's not Google. Virgin. by Animats · · Score: 1
    Virgin is the leader with that strategy. Branson has put Virgin into a strange range of businesses. Starting from music, he's expanded into soft drinks (Virgin Cola), air travel (Virgin Atlantic), space travel (Virgin Galactic), railroads (Virgin Trains), cell phones (Virgin Mobile), wine (Virgin Wine), publishing (Virgin Books), Internet services (Virgin.net), and lending (Virgin Money).

    Amazingly, it's actually working.

    1. Re:For that strategy, it's not Google. Virgin. by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 1

      Don't forget their prostitution division, 'Virgin Not Virgin'

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    2. Re:For that strategy, it's not Google. Virgin. by mykdavies · · Score: 1

      Virgin is the leader with that strategy. Branson has put Virgin into a strange range of businesses. Starting from music, he's expanded into soft drinks (Virgin Cola), air travel (Virgin Atlantic), space travel (Virgin Galactic), railroads (Virgin Trains), cell phones (Virgin Mobile), wine (Virgin Wine), publishing (Virgin Books), Internet services (Virgin.net), and lending (Virgin Money).

      Not forgetting Virgin Vodka, Virgin Vie (cosmetics), Virgin Cars, Virgin Student, Virgin Energy, Virgin Travelstore.com, Virgin Blue (Aussie airline), Virgin Active (Health clubs), Virgin Bikes, Virgin Pulse ('lifestyle electronics'), V Music Festival, Virgin fm, Virgin Games, Virgin Lightships (advertising helium airships), Virgin Hotels, Virgin Euromagnetics (PCs), Virgin Management (brand management), Virgin Holidays, Virgin Cinemas, Virgin Bride (bridal wear) and Virgin Vision.

      Dear God, does the man ever sleep?

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  39. Not even close to "all things to all geeks" by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Google doesn't...
      - Compile my code
      - Index and store my code
      - Back up my sensitive information
      - Provide my game content or hardware
      - Serve as my rendering engine or have any other graphics role
      - Have anything to do with my cell phone
      - Handle my email
      - Provide my browser
      - Search my local content

    It's a pretty good search engine...but that's pretty much it. Even though Google COULD provide serve some of those needs listed above, the average geek has better tools for each function anyway.

  40. Hello Kitty by frankmu · · Score: 1

    i thought Hello Kitty was the first brand that was into everything. everything from erasers to vibrators.

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    Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
  41. another important thing about Google by jackstack · · Score: 1

    the founders and CEO understand something about orders of magitude and numerical quantities. The CEO and founders yearly salary are 1 dollar, because they know that their fortunes are worth $12B - enough money to take care of their great great grandchildren. (and then some) These guys are fundamentally intelligent starting from top management. Imagine if only more CEOs were as intelligent and exercised as much wisdom.

    1. Re:another important thing about Google by vidarh · · Score: 1

      Most CEO's don't own $12B worth of shares in the company they run, or anywhere near that. And in fact when you look at CEO's that DO own a significant chunk of the companies they own, it is pretty common for their salaries to be tiny. Google is certainly not doing anything new in that respect.

  42. Press hit by trifster · · Score: 1

    You made Google and the Google PR people happy for bringing in more web-clicks to their Press Hit.

  43. Stem cells by AlpineR · · Score: 1
    Unless they are cancer stem cells which will continue spawning adult cells that multiply without restraint. Then Google could grow until it consumes the world or achieves conciousness.

    Actually, any stem cell continues spawning adult cells until it fails due to DNA degradation or expiration of its host's body. It's the offspring that become static and expendable.

    AlpineR

  44. Smells like propaganda...err...Public Relations. by dgrati · · Score: 1

    Sorries for using the word "propaganda". But anything that distorts a picture is propaganda, keeping in mind that propaganda is not always about furnishing false statements. False percepts can be rendered even when furnishing entirely true statements. The article is built on rhetoric that has no purpose or value. Aren't a lot of companies adaptive? Stem cell analogy? WTF? Consider this sentence:"The Google Video Store currently competes with Apple's iTunes, which for the time being is more user-friendly and has a substantially larger market-share. But given Google's distribution network -- either through Froogle or its Google Base -- the market-share gap could narrow in a hurry." IS the writer kidding? iTunes is not just some store that currently happens to have a larger market-share that Froogle and Google Base would compete with, just like that. iTunes is a fashion statement that every teen needs to make. iTunes is "cool". GBase and Froogle won't take it out just like that. The writer fails to mention that as Google broadens into more services it's reach and use also dilute. In order to rock this world Google needs more than engineers. It needs visionaries like Steve Jobs who understand media and design and fads and all those rhetorical things that us digiratis disregard because we are logical and precise. Unfortunately, the rest of the world is not.

  45. To put things into perspective by rchawdry · · Score: 1

    Google's revenue last year was $6B. In the recent Forture 500, let's say you combine Google revenue with Yahoo and eBay. The combined company is less than *one tenth* the 2005 revenue of Exxon ($~350B, yes billion). Google will always be an information parlayer, though probably a pretty good one. Will it ever be the most powerful company in the US? Not in our lifetimes, if ever.

  46. Google bought the DNA ?? by Drunkulus · · Score: 1


    Totally makes sense. Zawinski is an oss zealot. Well I guess they are serious about getting into entertainment.

  47. Virgin? by nicolaiplum · · Score: 1

    "The only brand that tries to be everything to everyone". What about Richard Branson's Virgin Enterprises? Not as successful or cool as Google these days, but he certainly tries. He's also pretty successful on an absolute level.

    --
    "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled"
    1. Re:Virgin? by vidarh · · Score: 1
      Branson has also achieved something even more remarkable: He's managed to keep the Virgin brand trusted and respected despite the fact that a large percentage of the businesses using the brand aren't owned or controlled by Virgin Group any more - he keeps selling off companies on a regular basis as they "grow up" or in order to finance new ventures, and has still managed to ensure none of the new owners have damaged the brand.

  48. unstable by cifey · · Score: 1

    When somebody comes up with a better search engine goog will topple quickly. Also it would be nice for them to do more product branding for the items they are selling. ( an image of a coke bottle instead of a square blue background for an add)

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    Hello Cruel World
  49. Google does not hire the best and brightest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Stem cells" are the best and the brightest engineers and, although I've heard that google hires such talent, I was rather disappointed when I actually went through their interview process. Basically, I met 5-6 people, many of which were Ph.D.'s but some of which had dropped out, and all of them asked me the same inane questions: implement BFS in C on the board, implement a linked-list on the board, implement some-other-stupid-algorithm-for-which-you-would-no rmally-just-download-some-code on the board...

    I was thinking "if I really have to do this kind of thing on the job, I don't want this job." And anybody who nails these questions because they think about these kinds of things on a daily basis is by definition NOT the best and the brightest; they are code monkeys. so, google is hiring a bunch of code monkeys with (or without) Ph.D.'s. I don't see how that equates to "stem cells."

    I am doing top research (or so I think) at a top cs Ph.D. program in the country, and had several ideas that I thought would really help the company, but nobody asked me about these nor did I have the opportunity to talk to anybody about any interesting ideas whatsoever. It seems that google will hire anybody who can win a speed coding contest, but "stem cells" are people who can figure out *what* to implement, not just *how* to implement it.

    Frankly, I sold my google stock after going through their interview process, because I don't see google continuing its old growth with the kind of people they are currently hiring.

  50. Google Talk on a Cell phone? by chug2k · · Score: 1

    "Oh, and for those who don't want to be tied to their laptops to call Mom, fear not: Google Talk engineers are hinting at new mobile versions of the software in the months ahead." Because I really want to use Google Talk to voice chat on my cell phone...when I can just use my cell phone. What is google going to come up with next? Google Toaster that runs on toasters?

  51. How do you measure power? by rantingkitten · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, Exxon's operating costs are surely many times what Google's are. Servers and bandwidth are cheap compared to moving oil tankers around.

    But second, and much more importantly, you're measuring power ("the most powerful company in the US") in terms of dollars. When you consider the number of people that use Google for information, suddenly it becomes much more powerful than a simplistic numbers game reveals. A slight tweak here improves this company's visibility immeasurably; a slight tweak there shoves a webpage into obscurity. Censorship, control of who sees what, determination of market visibility.. I'm not saying Google does or would do any of these things, but they could, and that makes them immensely powerful.

    Whether they ever become "the most powerful country in America" is almost irrelevent -- and that's probably not even their goal. But don't make the mistake of using raw revenue as a useful metric. Plenty of companies rake in billions of dollars annually, but ultimately don't do much other than act as useless middlemen.

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  52. Adaptable? by Rib+Feast · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. Google's revenue is made up something like 99% from AdWords revenue - an advertising channel.

    I fail to see how they'd adapt in (which I don't think will happen) a market where advertising spending drops - be it through a general economic downturn or the next "Google" appearing delivering a better service. In fact, I'd probably expect to see them to what any other company would do - downsize.

    Right now I'm baffled by the number of employees they have there, and the tiny developments we see (as the public). They have something like 5,000 employees and so far their revenue continues to derive from their original success - AdWords.

    I have a theory that the Larry & Co are smart enough to see that their market perception is as important as products. This is what made Google as big as it is today, and it in turn drives people to their search engine, which delivers revenue.

    They are also smart enough to realise (like the Middle East) that their ride isn't a guaranteed one longterm, and in amassing 5,000 of the greatest minds they essentially incubate further potential ideas and at the same time generate a "Willy Wonka-esque" mystery about them. Everyone always asks "what are they doing with 5,000 people?" and with AdWords, Earth (bought), and other labs projects, I'd probably say just trying to brainstorm and invent while they have time (which is reinforced by the personal research time they all have).

    I personally see Yahoo! as a safer bet than Google given it has a more diverse revenue stream. Google is smart, don't get me wrong - they realise they have to do more to be safe. Especially when they are no longer the The Next Big Thing.

  53. Same is true of any internet company by Retired+Replicant · · Score: 1

    You could say the same thing about Yahoo, Microsoft, Amazon, or EBay. The web is becoming a superstore for all information, entertainment, and communications. Google just happens to have the best search engine and the highest stock price right now. There is nothing preventing many other companies from competing with Google.

  54. Holy Grail? by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 1
    Google is on the verge of achieving the holy grail of branding--being all things to all markets

    Todays closing price for GOOG: $409.66 per share.

    Time to sell.

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  55. the Great Google by (c)Broke · · Score: 1

    I think what Google do is very plannable business. It (will) covers every system on internet, then next time it would be a Google Cybercity. I'd like to be Google citizen. :)