A specific quest line for each major aspect of the game (basic flight, combat, mining, trading, crafting, etc), able to be completed independently (after flight of course) such that a combat player could ignore mining and trading
They have actually done something very similar to what you have suggested. There are four Factions (there always have been). Each faction has three "starter" schools. If you create a character specced to be a "soldier" you will end up in a naval academy and have a tutorial agent that will introduce you to combat.
If you start as an industrialist, you will get a tutorial for industry. Same goes for, I believe, mining. Any player is free to go to these schools and take the tutorials. So you are not locked in.
Problem is, they don't do a good job of telling new players that all of these tutorials are availalbe, and where to find them. The starter systems are listed on some site somewhere. Really, all of these tutorial agents should show up in your agents folder. But they don't. Kind of weird.
As to your other points, I'm not sure they will ever change combat. It seems like the designers want the game to be strategy based rather than reflex based. Resource gathering will probably never change to the lengths you suggest. I guess its supposed to be a timesink. And, as for skills, what new players should do, is specialize into one combat role (i.e., tackler, ewar, etc...).
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Well, shit. If you have kids, then playing an MMO is pretty ridiculous. But, if you are a single, pathetic loser like myself, then MMO's make a lot of sense.
Mod parent up. I see similarities all the time to where I work. I train people in the use of a small in-house application. The users must login first to our agency's network using a password. Then they must log into to the application itself through another password. To top it all off, the password is only valid for 3 months and so it must be changed every three months. Most users also require access to several applications - each with a different password that must be changed every three months.
Really, how secure is this? They have so many passwords that they keep them printed on a piece of paper sitting under their keyboard. How secure is this? What a joke. People just never seem to think shit through.
I think the problem is related to pixel width. On a 32" HDTV that is 720p, the pixels are much wider than those on a 24" dell (1920x1200?) lcd monitor. So, if you sit up close to the HDTV with a mouse and keyboard, you will actually see the pixels more easily - which can put a damper on image quality. To use an HDTV as a monitor, you would be better off playing sports/action titles from a couch rather than playing fps or rts games at your desk.
I agree, I own two copies - one for Xbox and PC. Got the PC one thinking that using a keyboard and mouse might help. I heard so much "critical acclaim" that I thought there must've been something wrong with me.
But, this game was all story and no gameplay. The combat consisted of button mashing and the races were pretty uninspired.
The farmers themselves did not need to do this. The cigarette companies themselves sold their product on native reserves and encouraged them to sell them on the black market in Canada. All in an effort to undermine cigarette taxes here. But, several of their executives were caught and prosecuted. Now, we are back to 10 dollar packs of cigarettes, because the cigarette salesmen don't want to go to jail.
That's how it was for VHS in North America. But, BlockBuster gambled on the DVD format. They decided that they wouldn't share any rental profits from DVD's. So, the studios basically sell dvd's the same time that they make them available for rent.
The old vhs deals was 60/40 I think. BlockBuster would give over 40% of the money from rentals as long as the studios didin't make them available for sale for a while (usually months to a year). That deal is gone now. BlockBuster basically thought the DVD format wouldn't take off and they fucked up.
I don't know if a larger audience is actually proof of "better" gameplay. It just means, simply, that more people play it. Also, how many WoW players are actually players? You'd be surprised, but there are people out there that like to play some crappy games.
I don't know about you, but I bought my N64 for golden eye. Bought a PS2 because of games like GTA and passed on the cube. Third party support does make a difference.
But, yes, you have a great point. Nintendo does fairly well for itself based on its own library.
In Canada, we don't see Star Trek on G4 Tech TV - but, we also don't see the Man Show. We mainly see Call For Help with Leo Laporte (produced in Canada), AOTS, X-PLAY, Torrent, Electric Playground, Reviews on the Run, and Cinematech. It's not too bad, I mainly watch the game review shows and call for help.
I'm not flaming or anything, just actually curious. Where will all those games be saved to? In the game's RAM? Then the save game data is written a usb drive or flash card? Will we have to download the game to the systeme RAM everytime we want to play it? Or, will those be saved to a flash card as well?
If a student writes a play and the school produces it, that play remains the property of the student? Makes sense, since, as you mentioned, they are not being paid for it and they are probably only receiving academic credit. But, as far as I remember, I had to sign all sorts of waivers in school. I remember signing a waiver for drama class, gym class, field trips etc...but I'm guessing those were to waive the school from any liability for physical harm.
Sorry, "how" is supposed to read "who." Also, I'm making the assumption that you are american and speaking of US copyright law. If you are not making reference to US law, my apologies.
However, it could very well be that the students are subject to some sort of agreement that states any media they create with their (i.e., the school's) av equipment remains property of the school. The school may have done this to avoid any liability over copyright.
Alright, but everything I create for my employer (regardless of how owns the equipment), by agreement of employment, is the property of my employer. The students at this school may have to be subject to a similar agreement.
Also, this happened in Quebec, Canada - they do not follow US copyright law.
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Didin't he just community service? Not exactly harsh.
A specific quest line for each major aspect of the game (basic flight, combat, mining, trading, crafting, etc), able to be completed independently (after flight of course) such that a combat player could ignore mining and trading
They have actually done something very similar to what you have suggested. There are four Factions (there always have been). Each faction has three "starter" schools. If you create a character specced to be a "soldier" you will end up in a naval academy and have a tutorial agent that will introduce you to combat. If you start as an industrialist, you will get a tutorial for industry. Same goes for, I believe, mining. Any player is free to go to these schools and take the tutorials. So you are not locked in. Problem is, they don't do a good job of telling new players that all of these tutorials are availalbe, and where to find them. The starter systems are listed on some site somewhere. Really, all of these tutorial agents should show up in your agents folder. But they don't. Kind of weird. As to your other points, I'm not sure they will ever change combat. It seems like the designers want the game to be strategy based rather than reflex based. Resource gathering will probably never change to the lengths you suggest. I guess its supposed to be a timesink. And, as for skills, what new players should do, is specialize into one combat role (i.e., tackler, ewar, etc...).
Well, shit. If you have kids, then playing an MMO is pretty ridiculous. But, if you are a single, pathetic loser like myself, then MMO's make a lot of sense.
The "forbidden grotto?" Is that what you are talking about?
People who spell like you should be shot.
do yourself a favour, save up about 5 bucks. Then go to the nearest corner, and get a blowjob.
Mod parent up. I see similarities all the time to where I work. I train people in the use of a small in-house application. The users must login first to our agency's network using a password. Then they must log into to the application itself through another password. To top it all off, the password is only valid for 3 months and so it must be changed every three months. Most users also require access to several applications - each with a different password that must be changed every three months. Really, how secure is this? They have so many passwords that they keep them printed on a piece of paper sitting under their keyboard. How secure is this? What a joke. People just never seem to think shit through.
What a schmuck.
I think the problem is related to pixel width. On a 32" HDTV that is 720p, the pixels are much wider than those on a 24" dell (1920x1200?) lcd monitor. So, if you sit up close to the HDTV with a mouse and keyboard, you will actually see the pixels more easily - which can put a damper on image quality. To use an HDTV as a monitor, you would be better off playing sports/action titles from a couch rather than playing fps or rts games at your desk.
I agree, I own two copies - one for Xbox and PC. Got the PC one thinking that using a keyboard and mouse might help. I heard so much "critical acclaim" that I thought there must've been something wrong with me. But, this game was all story and no gameplay. The combat consisted of button mashing and the races were pretty uninspired.
The farmers themselves did not need to do this. The cigarette companies themselves sold their product on native reserves and encouraged them to sell them on the black market in Canada. All in an effort to undermine cigarette taxes here. But, several of their executives were caught and prosecuted. Now, we are back to 10 dollar packs of cigarettes, because the cigarette salesmen don't want to go to jail.
Yeah, we have high resolution LCDs that need high powered gpus to run at native resolution.
uh...he spelled "post-humously" correctly. You just don't get his joke. Here is a definition: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=posthumou sly
That's how it was for VHS in North America. But, BlockBuster gambled on the DVD format. They decided that they wouldn't share any rental profits from DVD's. So, the studios basically sell dvd's the same time that they make them available for rent. The old vhs deals was 60/40 I think. BlockBuster would give over 40% of the money from rentals as long as the studios didin't make them available for sale for a while (usually months to a year). That deal is gone now. BlockBuster basically thought the DVD format wouldn't take off and they fucked up.
I don't know if a larger audience is actually proof of "better" gameplay. It just means, simply, that more people play it. Also, how many WoW players are actually players? You'd be surprised, but there are people out there that like to play some crappy games.
Relax guys, he's just fucking around...or is he?
Why is this -1? I think its a reasonable question.
You've already spelled out GNAA once. Why do have to keep repeating yourself? We get it.
I don't know about you, but I bought my N64 for golden eye. Bought a PS2 because of games like GTA and passed on the cube. Third party support does make a difference. But, yes, you have a great point. Nintendo does fairly well for itself based on its own library.
In Canada, we don't see Star Trek on G4 Tech TV - but, we also don't see the Man Show. We mainly see Call For Help with Leo Laporte (produced in Canada), AOTS, X-PLAY, Torrent, Electric Playground, Reviews on the Run, and Cinematech. It's not too bad, I mainly watch the game review shows and call for help.
Sorry, meant to say "in the system's RAM" and not "in the game's RAM." Also, system is spelled "system" not "systeme."
I'm not flaming or anything, just actually curious. Where will all those games be saved to? In the game's RAM? Then the save game data is written a usb drive or flash card? Will we have to download the game to the systeme RAM everytime we want to play it? Or, will those be saved to a flash card as well?
Owned. Thanks. That's good to know.
If a student writes a play and the school produces it, that play remains the property of the student? Makes sense, since, as you mentioned, they are not being paid for it and they are probably only receiving academic credit. But, as far as I remember, I had to sign all sorts of waivers in school. I remember signing a waiver for drama class, gym class, field trips etc...but I'm guessing those were to waive the school from any liability for physical harm.
Sorry, "how" is supposed to read "who." Also, I'm making the assumption that you are american and speaking of US copyright law. If you are not making reference to US law, my apologies. However, it could very well be that the students are subject to some sort of agreement that states any media they create with their (i.e., the school's) av equipment remains property of the school. The school may have done this to avoid any liability over copyright.
Alright, but everything I create for my employer (regardless of how owns the equipment), by agreement of employment, is the property of my employer. The students at this school may have to be subject to a similar agreement. Also, this happened in Quebec, Canada - they do not follow US copyright law.