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Red vs Blue isn't that great. Sure, it can be funny in a stupid sort of way. But there are far better methods of entertainment out there. Hell, I'd rather read an online comic strip.

8-bit Theater
Ctrl-Alt-Del
Van Von Hunter
Cup of Suffering
Elf Only Inn

Enjoy.

"Lay the smack down"? Who talks like that? Gah! God hates console fanboys.

I'm strangely reminded of this.

yeah, but when are they going to build a robot out of an xbox? http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-07-06

I think I speak for everyone when I say: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2002-11-01

That and Apple users haveing to go to niche shops for parts and repair doesn't help. I just love the look on mac owners faces when they find the inexpensive pc colution is NOT for them..... Off to the Apple store they go... http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-06-08

If you like a webcomic, and it has great attributes... why try to steal from it and depreciate the people who work hard on those webcomics???
On the otherhand If you are developing a webcomic and it has great attributes... why not copywrite or trademark your work???

For great web comics, visit:

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/

http://www.penny-arcade.com/

Things can go horribly awry when putting AC units in...

There's a CAD comic for every story...

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-02-21

I think this sums it up: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/200 50608.jpg

A fitting carton considering the topic: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archi ves&date=2005-06-08

That's why I said "otherwise rightfully". It's like a two-person project at school where one person does 90% of the work and both get 50% of the credit. The understanding before the project starts is that they'll share credit equally, but the one who put more effort into the final result ends up feeling kind of bitter.

Keenspot makes money off of advertisement (and maybe other things, but I only know of the advertising part), but they need good webcomics to lure advertisers.

All I meant by that comment is that I recall that some of the webcartoonists have felt like the guy doing 90% of the work.

Beyond that, I wholly concede your point.

And the "ideally" comment was more a shot at people who start webcomics only because they've seen the success that a few have attained and want to achieve the same success. It happens a lot, and the general concensus amongst webcartoonists (based on various rants I've read and webcomic panels I've attended) seems to be that if you're doing it solely for the fame, you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

I usually fall on the side of "love of your craft," but I can certainly appreciate the other side too.

I've really got no problem with a webcartoonist who runs his webcomic like a business, because art supplies, bandwidth and hosting do cost a lot of money. And if you're making a living off of your strip it costs that much more.

A few artists who live off of their webcomics:

Penny Arcade
Sluggy Freelance
MegaTokyo
8-Bit Theatre
Player vs Player
Schlock Mercenary
Something Positive
Ctrl-Alt-Delete

And those are just some of the ones that I read and can remember.

Well, I looked at those other comics, and I disagree. I suppose you have to have lived the life of a sysadmin (down, not across) to get the most out of UF, but it is funny. A lot of those comics are heavily targetted at gamers, and while I enjoy games, I'm not that heavily into it.

Two points:

• While you're correct that most of those I linked to are gaming-related, not all of them are. And for those that aren't, the humor is often zany enough that it doesn't matter if you can relate to it as a gamer. There certainly are strips that require you to have some deep gaming knowledge, but those are few and far between. Besides, who can't relate to stuff like blister packaging, used on much more than just video gaming peripherals? See? Funny, without going the "Windoze is sux" route. Maybe the guy getting both of his hands cut off by the packaging was too graphic, which is a valid complaint. Here's PA's take on the blister packaging issue, without the gratuitous violence.
• Even if you can't appreciate them for their story or humor, all of the comics I linked to are artistically pleasing, if not amazing (PA, Megatokyo, and Mac Hall routinely astound). Of the art/story/funny trifecta, they at least have one leg to stand on. UF has none.

Oh, yeah, I was gong to also pimp Something Postivie as a strip that's not about gaming (though they do throw in some pen and paper role-playing every now and then), has decent art (below average when compared against PA or Mac Hall, but light years ahead of UF), is funny, and has an interesting story.

First, you should link to PA's comic directly, or your commentary on the strip won't make sense in a couple days. Second, black and white is not necessarily bad (Megatokyo is mostly in black and white). The problem with Userfriendly's art is not so much that it's not in color as that it's drawn with all of the skill of a three year old child. If the story was good or the humor funny, it could make up for the bad artwork. Sadly, neither of those are the case.

For the record, I just pulled a couple comics at random. As has already been mentioned, Diesel Sweeties is also good, as well as many others (ctrl+alt+del, Mac Hall when they update, Angst Technology, etc). All of these are better than UF, in story, art, and humor. If UF could pull even one of those out of its rear, it might be worth browsing once a month or so. Until then it's nothing more than a reason to laugh at people that think it's good.

No, a console doesn't live by its processor power alone. It lives by good games. But in my opinion, games have more potential on faster systems. Whether or not they ever live up to that potential is a different story entirely. There are arguments that say that, as the system limits increase in power, the more time is spent trying to harness that power, and less time spent on producing a quality game. Some games definitely fall into that trap. Some, however, do not.

It's okay that you're a fan of the PS2 and the GC. That was your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that. There is no "right" or "wrong" in this, just personal preference. I like the XBox and the GC, but I despise the PS2...mostly because I couldn't find a single game I overly enjoyed on it (even with its vast library of games). I didn't have that problem with the GC or the XBox, but that's me. Other people measure gaming systems different than you and myself. It's not really a big deal. The only thing that matters is that people relax over the whole issue and just let people play what they want to play. Console fanboys need a swift kick in the nerts.

God Hates Fanboys

For all the Aplle fans-http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives& date=2002-11-26

You mean like this?

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-02-05 Check it out, you might be able to relate.

You work on it?!
YOU HAVE NO SOUL! HOW CAN YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?!?!?!
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Jigga Watts of processing pow3r!!

Comedy gold.

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The sad part is that this has allready happened some time ago with pizza hut and everquest two in SOE's neverending quest to control all MMO players in the Universe. -link- http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-02-21 and http://everquest2.station.sony.com/pizza/ It's just sad.

And it's not form PA :o

WHOA

You don't know many, eh?

Some of them make the fact that they're gaming comic websites a bit more known, sure. But all those sites I go to primarily for the comics. All of them don't have the full comic on the front page.

Now, clanbob (specifically the life of riley) comic ISN'T the entire focus of the site. it's just a bunch of friends, one of them happens to draw a comic. The others use it for whatever they want, as far as I can tell. But penny-arcade has a link to the comic in each of tycho's posts about it, and a 'Latest Comic' link right at the top. It's fair to include all of these as being similar, I think.

I'm a Ctrl+Alt+Del fan myself :)

Can a beowulf cluster of these run Linux in Soviet Russia?

Kinda like the XBot from Ctrl-Alt-Del

Ctrl Alt Del on the WoW boardgame.

And a comic is more valuable than a thousand jokes.

yeah - I knew those sorts in college, too - the ones that failed out of college because they were so close to being a wizard on DartMUD (or something similar). On the plus side, they were all skinny as rails because they never left the computer to eat, either. I have a feeling those days are over, now that we have /pizza (they didn't look like this guy, but they will now)

For example:

The enemies of linux? Linux zealots are the ones attacking Microsoft!

Bad one I know, but hey I just wanted to show a cool comic.

/manwhore

It still needs a lot of polish and optimization. Once it launches the plan is to have a flowing storyline written by Dave Gibbons. Right now that would be about the only thing that would convince me to play after beta.

My only fear at launch is summed up best by CtrlAltDel. So far the beta community is a pretty cool bunch though.

Live audio with Shoutcast/Icecast is a great idea, but don't spoil my ping times with it (guess what *I* play).

The female character in the webcomic Ctrl-Alt-Del [link: ctrlaltdel-online.com] is any male gamer's dream.

my dad brought home his mac from his work, with a bunch of crazy cool games on it, can't really remember which ones, but i never got off unless kicked off. oh and HAPPY WINTER-EEN-MAS

Ctrl+Alt+Del got it right in the "Video Games Don't Make People Violent..." strip. :-)

I wonder how soon is the RIAA going to claim he committed a copyright infringement by processing the music with a neural network (presumedly) and publishing the results?

I also wonder how many software patents he infringed on by implementing the program(s)... Y'know, math isn't everyone's privilege.

Or a Merry Winter-een-mas

When it comes to gaming comics, Ctrl+Alt+Del is also good, if irreverent and not very original. The first thing I thought when I read it was, "Oh, it's PA with even more attitude."

The Xbox console makes quite the effective bludgeon. (1) (2)

The Xbox console makes quite the effective bludgeon. (1) (2)

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/

The Revolution is coming Brothers

Heh... unfortunately, tommorrow that link will no longer work. Here's one that lasts

about time! you can call me ethan from ctrl+alt+del

Life in a Jar

ctrlaltdel

I've played a lot of MMORPGs and this sums it up quite well!

Yeah, but at least he doesn't rip-off Ctrl+Alt+Del.

I think Absath had the right idea...