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Re:Hackable? Homebrew?
They already have those. It's called the etherkiller and I don't reccomend you buy one.
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Re:Where is the plug for this thing?
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Re:BPL is great ideaYou want high tension co-ax?
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Re:I think it will...
I use this for my Power-over-Ethernet needs
:)
I'm not sure what standards it supports, but it's cheap to manufacture! -
Re:Ethernet over Power?
Apparently, my cousin has Ethernet over Power, that was installed by The Internet Service Guy...
Does the cord for it look something like this?
http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ -
My experience with it.
My Mom has signed onto it too as part of their trial service. She was previously a zoomtown customer. I've had some issues with it dropping packets, and it seems to be pretty sensitive to where the "modem" (or whatever they call it) is plugged into your wall.
At first we just plugged it in wherever in the house we were using the computer near an outlet, and that worked ok. It was like having a home network with just a little added inconvenience. People apparantly liked the mobility of that, but didn't like dropping packets. They hooked my mom up with a wireless router, and tested all the outlets in the house to find the most stable one to hook it up to. The device is about 3"x4"x2".
I'm pretty sure they have to install something in the power system to enable it for an area. (At the transformer level maybe?)
I'm not sure Cincinnati was such a great choice for where to try this out first. We aren't the most tech savvy of places, and a lot of homes around here are pretty old and probably haven't had their wiring replaced in 50 years. It seems like a pretty adverse environment to be testing it in.
All in all, its pretty cool, although it gives me the willies plugging my ethernet cable directly into the wall socket some times. (http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/) I wonder what happens when the device starts to go bad? -
FiskarsI maintain a bunch of servers (Win 2003/XP Pro) at our labs in the university.
Fiskars makes the ultimate in firewall protection for Windows systems.
My second choice would be a quality Etherkiller.
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Is There a Place for a $500 Ethernet Card?
Yes, there is a place for a $500 ethernet card, far, far away from this guy.
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Standard power outlet eh? Use the right cable :)
Don't use this one.
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Re:More info from Slashdot and POE site ...
I've always used this method for powering computers over ethernet. It even works for those high end desktops. Plus I don't have tons of cables under my desk.
Give it a try. -
Re:Uh, if the hard drive is dead
Actually, they do make a device designed for exactly this purpose!
IDE drive "cleaner" -
Some ideas for start
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The Etherkiller
Easy, just use the Etherkiller.
(actually, not really; it'd just fry the controller, not the data on the disk) -
Re:Network-over-powerlines is not new, so...
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Works with ordinary network cards!
You only need an adapter.
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120v into the ethernet portdoes it everytime.
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Re:Me, I'm still waitingHere you go.
Have a closeup image, too.
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Re:Me, I'm still waitingHere you go.
Have a closeup image, too.
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Nothing beats the Etherkiller
clicky
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Re:great
Easy. I think a little 110VAC over IP should do it.
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Mayhem and chaos!
Power over ethernet? Bah! Here's a few more uses for power over anything!
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Already done before...
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BOFH-grade products.> eleven of the latest anti-spam products including solutions from BitDefender, Clearswift, CA eTrust, GFI, IronPort, MailGuard, McAfee, MessageLabs, NetIQ, Network Box and Symantec Brightmail.
How can this list be considered even remotely complete? What about the personalized Louisville Slugger, the noble etherkiller and (for your Tier 1 types who work in volume) the 1200-bung-per-hour-rated Jarvis Sow Bung Dropper?
Oh, wait, this is a review of anti-spam products, not anti-spammer products. Never mind.
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Re:Kill the killer
Here's one killer that does what it claims.
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Re:Fried detetor
One of these would probably do.
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Re:Stand next to the router and...
simulate lightening by plugging a network cable into a 220V plug
Enter the Etherkiller.
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Can't wait...
... for something from these guys to handle these.
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The Etherkiller
We can't forget the beauty that is The Etherkiller, can we?
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Re:The Worst.
In a somewhat unrelated (and more painful) story, using my vast intellect I once attempted to replace a PCI card (of some sort) in a running computer and shocked the shit out of myself. Twice
You must disconnect the PCI killer before messing with your PCI slots ;)
What, you didn't use PCI killer? Then how in the world did you manage to shock yourself? Did you plug your fingers into a power outlet at teh same time? There isn't a single line that carries any appreciably high voltage to the PCI connectors - if you touched something you're not supposed to, you wouldn't feel a thing. -
Re:Portable HD durability?
In the same vein as the "Etherkiller": Take an extension cord, lop off the socket end, attach 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'll leave the rest to your imagination ;) -
Re:Exactly how is this surprising?
Maybe you're thinking of the one, the only, the EtherKiller!
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Re:Exactly how is this surprising?
That would be the, er, etherkiller! (Also AUI killer, VGA killer, BNC killer, etc, etc, etc on that link!)
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POWER Over Ethernet
Are you absolutely sure it supports power over ethernet?
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Re:I can't wait!just solder a RJ-11 on your lamp cord and plug it to the modem.
You may think you're joking, but you obviously haven't seen this.
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Re:Not quite...
Well, it's not a stick ticker, but it is CAT-5 in a power outlet. Have fun kiddies.
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Re:How much physical security is necessary?While the security systems in many datacenters are probably excessive, physical security is there for three reasons:
- First, it is possible for someone, particularly with some technical knowledge and a lot of malice, to do serious damage. All the IT folk on Slashdot probably have horror stories about just what someone whose technical knowledge consists of "I can start Windows, so I must know everything" can do to a major system. For a worse scenario, imagine what would happen if an IT tech, angry about his/her job going to India, came in with an Etherkiller and plugged it into various servers, routers, and other important equipment. One person, with unsupervised access and the right tools, could easily do thousands or millions of dollars worth of damage in 15 minutes or so. While this might not be a common scenario, the risk is great enough that it's a good idea to protect against it.
- Second, there's legacy. If your datacenter was established back in the Dark Ages, it may well have been designed to house a timeshare system where one terminal had "root" powers. Obviously, in that case, physical access to the root console should be guarded as jealously as one would guard the root password to an important box today. Even if the system requiring this security is long gone from your datacenter, it's cheaper to leave the security equipment in place than to spend money to take it out.
- Finally, the higher-ups like to see a machine room with security like a bank vault; after all, they have probably invested millions into the machines (or are considering doing so), and they want to feel protected. While it's true that the money that went to a 2-ton vault door for the server room probably would be better spent hiring another admin to help keep the system in good shape and make sure all the patches are up-to-date, the people with the money would rather have the feeling of totally impregnable security than admit to themselves that nothing is ever totally secure. After all, they can't appreciate a well-configured firewall, but a massive door with biometric authorization and a 12-digit access code feels secure to just about anyone.
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broadband over powerlines, it's just silly.
And quite dangerous.
I mean, really, who expects this to work -
I'm still waiting for...
...the USB killer, a device like the Etherkiller, but for USB devices instead.
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Etherkillerhttp://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
I think this would bring down a network quicker than the worst Slashdotting. My favorite is the powered hub, but I think the hard drive killer is nice, too.
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Already been done
Ok, so maybe this wasn't exactly what they were talking about. It's still kind of fun though...
The Etherkiller
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Re:12v Power Over CAT5?It reminds me of this...
(Gee, I hope that server doesn't go down in flames because I linked to it)
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Re:The NIC is very nice.
Just don't plug it into the Ether Killer.
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A great overclocking project
They demonstrated a tripling of the throughput of the machine with those soup-it-up fans! That's impressive. I'll bet that's better than the fan-and-heatsink donor got from his Athlon. It's too bad they couldn't get that "1 Roll eXtreme Duck Tape" to physically support the twin 120 volt fans to really cool off the beast. My experience with these (shredder) devices is that there is another metric besides raw throughput that makes all the difference in perceived "beastliness", and that's the speed of the feeder, analogous to the "first page" speed of a printer, except obviously the opposite. And as long as they have to run 120 VAC to it, they can add all sorts of lights and stuff. (For more 120 VAC computer projects, see etherkillers). Maybe with some tweaking they can hack a truly useful device that attaches to the output bin of a fast printer, and shreds as fast as the pages come out. Then they can haul away the incriminating evidence as fast as it's output.
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Re:Degauss your monitor!
Better yet, plug an Etherkiller into the main switch.
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Re:All you need is one of these:
see this site for the whole line etherkiller products I think the isa killer is the best
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Etherkiller
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don't fret
the site may be down but now you too can recreate the wacky antics of hardware failure.
plug in one of these and hilarity will ensue. -
Re:More Explosions!
What happens when guys in IT departments get bored or "fed up" with hardware? Try hooking up common computer cables and connectors to 110vac for the purpose of destruction =) I especially like VGA killer and the "powered" hub!
Check it out at http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ (I've actually had the honor of seeing these things up close, and they're every bit as cool as you'd think! =)