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I mean it used to be shorthand for "grandstanding, virtue signaling, demagogic assholes"

FTFY

From Salon writing a dozen fainting couches on a Game of Thrones rape scene while ignoring Theon's mutilation in the previous season and cannibals munching on a village in the same episode, to Marvel not race swapping Iron Fist, to pretending two wankers who complain about a black stormtrooper on Twitter means Star Wars fans are racist (nevermind 35 years of Londo).....yeah, SJW's are a thing.

Facebook will not willingly let go of that ~$2.5B advertising revenue it takes in the UK.

In an somewhat analogous case, Valve claimed that they are not "doing business" in Australia and therefore did not have to offer refunds in compliance with the Australian Consumer Law. They sell games to Australian consumers from their US website Steam in US dollars. They lost that case and they recently lost their appeal. They are now seeking to appeal to the High Court of Australia.

Geezus, you have to handfeed some people. How the fuck do you manage to get out of bed in the morning without someone to help you. Would have taken you all of 30 seconds to find a vast range of options. you can start with the steam machines, the base models for gaming are all around the $500 mark. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/...

AUDIENCE MEMBER: Are there plans for an Xbox 360 emulator on Xbox One?
SAVAGE: There are, but we’re not done thinking them through yet, unfortunately. It turns out to be hard to emulate the PowerPC stuff on the X86 stuff. So there’s nothing to announce, but I would love to see it myself.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/...

It's a trick.

Get an axe.

Ready!
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/06/gamestop-has-your-guitar-hero-axe/

Never mind that Google Play takes a 30% cut: https://support.google.com/goo...
Never mind that Steam takes a 30% cut (according to Notch): http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/...
Never mind that Amazon Kindle Publishing takes 30-65% cut: https://kdp.amazon.com/help?to...

By "big nerdgasm of gaming meccas", I think you meant "industry expo that just about everyone interesting doesn't bother with any more".

By "big nerdgasm of gaming meccas", I think you meant "industry expo that just about everyone interesting doesn't bother with any more".

By "big nerdgasm of gaming meccas", I think you meant "industry expo that just about everyone interesting doesn't bother with any more".

Anyone remember that EA bullshit about SimCity needed to "offload" some of it's processing (which was proven false by a hacker later)? Well, one of the things they mentioned specifically at the announcement yesterday was that the Xbox One would feature this capability (they bragged as if it was a good thing). And with them highlighting EA as a partner, you can bet you'll see plenty of One games that require always-online connections, to connect to EA servers for "processing."

For anyone who's unfamiliar with this, and is curious, Greenpeace has a Guide to Greener Electronics.

[Greenpeace rep Casey Harrel] said in a Kotaku interview, that Nintendo (as Kotaku writes, "barely even attempt to submit, or make available, the information Greenpeace require to make accurate judgements." According to Casey (I think; Kotaku suddenly uses the name Corey): "Nintendo consistently scores the poorest on our Guide to Greener Electronics primarily because they donâ(TM)t submit, nor have any publicly available information, on over half the criteria that we use to assess company performance on the Guide."

In other words, Nintendo's "worst environmental record" is the equivalent of a database null. It's not "the worst", it's "unknown".

For the information Nintendo does put out, Greenpeace's rep does note, "those that they do have answers for, are quite poor."

In a response, Nintendo says, "We would like to assure customers that we take our environmental responsibilities seriously and are rigorous in our commitment to comply with all relevant laws relating to environmental and product safety, including avoiding the use of dangerous substances in our manufacturing processes and ensuring the safe disposal and recycling of materials."

Whether one loves or hates a company, it's a bit difficult to fault their abysmal environmental record just because they didn't fill out a third party company's survey.

Disclaimer: I'm a rational Nintendo fanboy. I love their products, but I can criticize Nintendo and their products as well.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why-do-videogames-cost-so-much/ is somewhat relevant - its not just the publisher's faults, its your government's faults as well.

All three consoles have an online store for downloadable games, apps, etc.

Microsoft charges for XBox Live Gold. They've had other avenues for profit during this entire generation.

Amongst all of this, it took MS years to get back into the black where as Nintendo started making money from the word go.

Console hardware as a loss leader is a failed business model. People who buy consoles are casual gamers, even PS3 fanboys love to point out that a lot of people bought PS3's simply because they were (at the time) cheap Blu-Ray players and not to play games on. Producing another generation of overpowered and overpriced loss leaders will only result in Sony and/or MS departing the console market.

There aren't enough "hardcore" console players to keep a "hardcore" market afloat, let alone competitive. Nintendo saw this when they made the Wii, justified when the Wii made money hand over fist whilst Microsoft and Sony struggled to stop haemorrhaging money on hardware. Hardcore is going back to the PC, even console rock star dev Cliff Bleszinski sees this. Meanwhile, Nintendo is releasing another casual console, whilst I think the Wii U will perform poorly against the meteoric performance of the Wii, the Wii U will still make a lot of money for Nintendo. I think the disparity is due mostly to the fact that the worlds economies are not as good as they were in 2008 and the Wii U is more evolutionary then revolutionary like the Wii was.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-consumer-preview-call-common-sense-142476

Also, try to spend a few minutes learning shortcuts etc. before dissing the experience. It's not a SP for Windows 7, it's a new OS.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/getting-starte...

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/windows-8-tricks-tips-and-s...

And it will enable many devices like these that don't exist now:

Idea Pad Yoga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2R9y9ZvkA&hd=1

Samsung x86 Tablet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-K1ELv6DE&hd=1

Try doing that with an iPad.(There are iPad-like ARM Windows 8 tablets too that won't run x86 apps but which will have Office).

83inch displays: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2833173/windows-8-82-inch-...

All these form factors tied in the with the vast Win32 ecosystem(except ARM tablets) and a single Touch-first Metro ecosystem.

It's interesting how the comments on Apple/iPad/Post-PC articles, financials of Apple/Dell/HP etc. state that "MS is dying in the Post-PC" era, but now when they come out with a solution to make a OS run on different form factors and to have tablets that are not just consumption devices, the comments on here are skewed towards "Why change something that works?". If PCs are really dying, why not attempt to fix that instead of standing by with their head in the sand(like RIMM)?

There will always be people unhappy with anything you build or change. They should just go with their vision of what they think is right and that's what they did. They envision that with Windows 8, most new monitors will be touch enabled because of the demand so that for some functions(like clicking on links), people can use touch.

You may disagree with the vision, but you can't disagree that there is a method behind the madness.

Damn recoiledsnake you have some sick l33t first posting skillz..three minutes from time TFA was posted to RTFA, write all that preparing all of those hyperlinks. An Impressive feat to say the least.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-consumer-preview-call-common-sense-142476

Also, try to spend a few minutes learning shortcuts etc. before dissing the experience. It's not a SP for Windows 7, it's a new OS.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2012/02/getting-starte...

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/windows-8-tricks-tips-and-s...

And it will enable many devices like these that don't exist now:

Idea Pad Yoga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2R9y9ZvkA&hd=1

Samsung x86 Tablet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-K1ELv6DE&hd=1

Try doing that with an iPad.(There are iPad-like ARM Windows 8 tablets too that won't run x86 apps but which will have Office).

83inch displays: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/29/2833173/windows-8-82-inch-...

All these form factors tied in the with the vast Win32 ecosystem(except ARM tablets) and a single Touch-first Metro ecosystem.

It's interesting how the comments on Apple/iPad/Post-PC articles, financials of Apple/Dell/HP etc. state that "MS is dying in the Post-PC" era, but now when they come out with a solution to make a OS run on different form factors and to have tablets that are not just consumption devices, the comments on here are skewed towards "Why change something that works?". If PCs are really dying, why not attempt to fix that instead of standing by with their head in the sand(like RIMM)?

There will always be people unhappy with anything you build or change. They should just go with their vision of what they think is right and that's what they did. They envision that with Windows 8, most new monitors will be touch enabled because of the demand so that for some functions(like clicking on links), people can use touch.

You may disagree with the vision, but you can't disagree that there is a method behind the madness.

They connected him to a user id, TheAngryPimp, on a steroid board. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/cut-paul-oceanmarketting-christoforo-a-breakhe-might-just-have-roid-rage/

Parents are already responsible for what their kids play. Ignoring the fact that most kids who are under 17 are not legally able to hold jobs and thus do not have the purchasing power to even procure video games without parental consent, any responsible parent (of which it sounds like you are an example) is at least somewhat cognizant of what media his child is consuming. As I am sure you already know, this extends beyond the boundaries of one's own home and into the homes of the child's friends. If you, as a parent, know that little Billy's parents let him watch all of the horror movies that he wants and that is something that you do not approve of your child watching, then it is not only your right but your responsibility as a parent to prevent your child from watching those movies over at little Billy's house, up to and including barring your child from going over to Billy's house to play. That is just common sense.

Now, in the instance of video games, parents actually have much more control than they do over music, literature, pictures, and movies. If a parent doesn't want his kid to play video games, he can simply unhook the console. If he doesn't like his kid playing certain video games, he can either not purchase those games for his kid or disable the ability for the console to play games above a certain rating threshold. To be blunt, a responsible parent already has more than enough means to exercise that responsibility. Beyond that, video game retailers already subscribe to a voluntary system whereby they agree not to sell video games to minors. This system is similar to the system that movie theaters and rental operations have been a part of for decades. In fact, the system in place is already extremely effective.

However, when you want to bring the government into play and give them the power to oversee this entire arrangement, you are not only trampling on the rights of others, you are asking the government to exceed its mandate and limit free speech. It is simply not acceptable in a modern free society to limit the production or distribution of material deemed to be speech simply because one deems it questionable. Aside from the fact that not all people agree on what is or is not questionable, you are asking the government to take on the role of a parent. I fail to see how abdicating one's role as a parent and asking the government to step in and do the job instead is in line with conservative ideals.

The fact of the matter is that conservatives-in-name-only like you are happy to carry the constitution in their breast pockets and flog it at any opportunity in an argument, but when it comes time to put your money where your mouth is and actually support the rights espoused within, you would rather take the easy way out and cede your rights and liberty to the government. That doesn't sound very conservative to me.

Are there really people who *preordered* DNF??? With inflation that should give them a pretty neat deal, if it's released...

This was a Slashdot story too IIRC. This is the first hit from googling "duke nukem forever preorder receipt"

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/05/still-got-your-duke-nukem-receipt-from-1997/

The Australian Bishops Conference have supported the draft which is a good thing.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/05/australian-catholic-bishops-welcomes-the-draft-r18-guidelines/

The ACL on the other hand are opposing it and going to fight it.
http://australianchristianlobby.org.au/2011/05/mr-draft-r18-computer-game-guidelines-fail-families/

I hope more Christian groups and associations speak up with their views on the R18 classification to illustrate that Jim Wallace & his followers are not the moderate Christian voice in Australia. It's so painful to see them constantly given media attention for trying to push the government to enforce their moral agenda on the country.

It was originally China.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/03/red-dawn-remake-pulls-a-homefront-retcons-korean-invasion/

"Publisher THQ shared similar concerns when it chose a unified Korean invasion over a Chinese attack on US soil. Execs said China was just âoenot that scaryâ. But it too was worried about Chinaâ(TM)s reception to Homefront.

âoeThe guys in our Chinese office said: Did you know that everybody on the exec team will be banned from coming into China for the rest of your lives?â executive Danny Bilson told Kotaku earlier this year. âoeThey were afraid the ministry of culture was going to wipe us out.â"

The forthcoming remake of Red Dawn, the 1984 film in which American teenagers band together to fight invading Soviet forces, will feature a North Korean invasion of the United States, similar to just-released shooter Homefront. Why is that so interesting? Because they already shot the film as a Chinese invasion of the States.

The film’s producers are in the process of digitally altering the new Red Dawn, swapping out Chinese imagery and changing dialogue to make the film’s aggressors North Korean, reports the LA Times. Studio execs were concerned about Chinese leadership being offended by the war flick and losing (potentially) a billion viewers over Red Dawn’s choice of villain.

“MGM has been working with the film ‘Red Dawn’s’ director and producers to make the most commercially viable version of the film for audiences worldwide,” said Mike Vollman, executive vice president of worldwide marketing to the LA Times. “We want to ensure the most people possible are able to experience it.”

Publisher THQ shared similar concerns when it chose a unified Korean invasion over a Chinese attack on US soil. Execs said China was just “not that scary”. But it too was worried about China’s reception to Homefront.

“The guys in our Chinese office said: Did you know that everybody on the exec team will be banned from coming into China for the rest of your lives?” executive Danny Bilson told Kotaku earlier this year. “They were afraid the ministry of culture was going to wipe us out.”

Both Homefront and the original Red Dawn were co-written by screenwriter John Milius.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/03/red-dawn-remake-pulls-a-homefront-retcons-korean-invasion/

From TFA:

"Furthermore, Curry said when a highly anticipated game was refused classification, two things could happen â" interest in the game would actually increase, and people would still get the game via importation or piracy."

Will. They. Ever. Learn.?

The guy that did this was actually a co-worker of mine at the time. Pretty awesome.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/06/hacked-ms-pac-man-rom-wins-hand-in-marriage/

OnLive no longer restricts signups by service area. As far as I know, this was only true during the beta. I believe the way they handle it now is they allow anyone to sign up for a free account, but will bounce you if you can't connect within a certain time period.

Which is more or less the same thing. Distance adds latency.
There is no way around it. More hops, more latency, more points of failure. All they're doing is opening it up on the chance you might get a low enough ping to the server to use it, but who knows if that would be consistent from day to day.

Is this the same ISP you mentioned earlier as the one with the constant disconnects and bad latency to game servers?

No, I was speaking of ISPs in general. We have constant stories on slashdot about ISPs introducing new caps and restrictions, and filtering traffic, etc.
Onlive chews a lot of bandwidth, just like Netflix does and there is already noise about ISPs pushing back against that. I then provided my specific connection information, which is a very good connection and pointed out that it doesn't work "somewhere" in the world, contradicting your claim that it worked "anywhere" in the world. Not everyone lives in the US. There is a whole big world out there.

Obviously I haven't tried everywhere, but I used the little OnLive console in a hotel on a vacation trip to Mexico and it worked fine.

You apparently got it to work once in a hotel in Mexico, so it works all over the world? You must work for Mythbusters.

The service sucks because with the technology and price point, it is just not efficient or a good value for anyone.

There is no need for ad hominem attacks because someone disagrees with your opinions by using facts.

What facts? Like the "fact" that this service works anywhere in the world?

or the fact that you claim they haven't changed their prices in the last 6 months? October 2010:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/10/onlive-monthly-subscription-fees-are-dead/
subscriptions gone
December 2010
Subscriptions back
Then they also announced they want to get into movies

You wouldn't know a fact if if jumped up and bit you in the ass.
As for ad hominem attacks, let me redirect you to your oh so clever and mocking entry into this thread

The ubiquitous "This can nevar work unless you are In teh Servar room! IR expart on such tings!" post whenever OnLive is brought up.

I'm sure you can point me to where I claimed I was an expert in original post? It's ok, I'll wait while you go dig up some more "facts"

The fact is, the technology isn't there, you're overpaying for what you're getting, the company has no idea what it's doing or where it's going. They're lurching from one idea/pricing model to the other, like a drunken sailor desperately trying to attract customers.

This is not what the average Aussie wants. There was a petition that set the record http://bit.ly/aJuLUO in Australia for the most number of supporters, for anything, ever! There was also a public debate http://bit.ly/cts8kl showed 98.2% support for a higher rating from over 60,000 submissions.

The current government may well be voted out this week, but the problem is, the state attorney generals decide classification guidelines http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Classification_policy. And if only one of them has a personal vendetta http://www.news.com.au/technology/attorney-general-to-veto-r-rating-for-games/story-e6frfro0-1111115654451 against something it won't get through.

Our hopes were raised when Michale Atkison, main detractor for a new rating, "retired" http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/04/new-s-a-attorney-general-might-support-r18-might-not/ earlier this year. But all that seemed to do was delay decisions.

If you'd like more information, please subscribe to the very informative r18 tag for Kotaku http://www.kotaku.com.au/tags/r18/.

Disclaimer: I am in no way afilliated with any political party or news site. I just value my freedom, or what little we have left. http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23nocleanfeed

This is not what the average Aussie wants. There was a petition that set the record http://bit.ly/aJuLUO in Australia for the most number of supporters, for anything, ever! There was also a public debate http://bit.ly/cts8kl showed 98.2% support for a higher rating from over 60,000 submissions.

The current government may well be voted out this week, but the problem is, the state attorney generals decide classification guidelines http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Classification_policy. And if only one of them has a personal vendetta http://www.news.com.au/technology/attorney-general-to-veto-r-rating-for-games/story-e6frfro0-1111115654451 against something it won't get through.

Our hopes were raised when Michale Atkison, main detractor for a new rating, "retired" http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/04/new-s-a-attorney-general-might-support-r18-might-not/ earlier this year. But all that seemed to do was delay decisions.

If you'd like more information, please subscribe to the very informative r18 tag for Kotaku http://www.kotaku.com.au/tags/r18/.

Disclaimer: I am in no way afilliated with any political party or news site. I just value my freedom, or what little we have left. http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23nocleanfeed

...Ubisoft when they released a "fix" for the Direct2Drive version of Rainbow Six Vegas 2. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2008/07/did_ubisoft_fix_direct2drive_rainbow_six_vegas_2_using_a_crack/ Turns out it was a RELOADED crack. Their reason? The latest patch didn't work with the Direct2Drive version of the game.

Interzone owns the Australia Tax Office (ATO) approximately $1m AUD and $500k in unpaid wages and superannuation. The owner changed the locks on the firm at 4am in the morning, locking all employees out from their work. Not even given a chance to collect their personal belongings. A new 'Interzone' called Big Collision is being setup in Dublin Ireland to complete development of their game Futebol in time for the World Cup, and without the debt they have accumulated in Australia. Originally Interzone was given a grant by the Western Australian goverment of $500k, so this has blown up very big on the news there, causing quite some political issues and questions of the chief Treasurer. They did not even lay off the staff, as that would of caused paper work, and the paying out of their due wages and redundancy money. They were simple locked out from their building.
The firm that provides the middleware (BigWorld) based in Sydney, provided a server engineer (contracted by Mike to clear out the IP assets from the server.)

The Interzone employees have been fantastic, in collecting evidence, and staying together to fight for what they are due.

This is not the first time this has occured in Australia, similar shit has happened in the last year with firms Transmission, and Fuzzyeyes. Video games, one of the last places for cow-boy businessmen.

For people who would like to read more on this, check these links:
http://www.tsumea.com/australasia/australia/news/120210/interzone-games-perth-closes-staff-locked-out
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/02/wa-dev-interzone-games-close-to-liquidation/
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/02/interzone-ceo-marty-brickey-responds/
And this video where the employees confront one of the directors http://vimeo.com/9574704

Interzone owns the Australia Tax Office (ATO) approximately $1m AUD and $500k in unpaid wages and superannuation. The owner changed the locks on the firm at 4am in the morning, locking all employees out from their work. Not even given a chance to collect their personal belongings. A new 'Interzone' called Big Collision is being setup in Dublin Ireland to complete development of their game Futebol in time for the World Cup, and without the debt they have accumulated in Australia. Originally Interzone was given a grant by the Western Australian goverment of $500k, so this has blown up very big on the news there, causing quite some political issues and questions of the chief Treasurer. They did not even lay off the staff, as that would of caused paper work, and the paying out of their due wages and redundancy money. They were simple locked out from their building.
The firm that provides the middleware (BigWorld) based in Sydney, provided a server engineer (contracted by Mike to clear out the IP assets from the server.)

The Interzone employees have been fantastic, in collecting evidence, and staying together to fight for what they are due.

This is not the first time this has occured in Australia, similar shit has happened in the last year with firms Transmission, and Fuzzyeyes. Video games, one of the last places for cow-boy businessmen.

For people who would like to read more on this, check these links:
http://www.tsumea.com/australasia/australia/news/120210/interzone-games-perth-closes-staff-locked-out
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/02/wa-dev-interzone-games-close-to-liquidation/
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/02/interzone-ceo-marty-brickey-responds/
And this video where the employees confront one of the directors http://vimeo.com/9574704

Here is a good explanation from Kotaku Australia on what is actually happening.

I've pretty much gone as far as I can towards correcting your ignorance, the rest is up to you although I fear that whilst I can lead a horse to water I cannot make it drink.

It's 30

By this logic it should be just as illegal to direct a film like 28 days later in Australia

By the way, you should be modded down for the "but its harmful to children" argument you just used. The average age of an australian gamer has been shown to be over 30
We are not asking for games like this to be available to children, only that we can have a suitable rating for adults that wish to play games with adult content not intended for sale or consumption by chidren.

I suppose it depends how you count. They released a 4.0 that wasn't ready. They knew precisely what message they were sending, and are to this day trying to talk their way out of it.

They have, at the 4.0 launch, declared it was a developper release. The base was stable, however the rest wasn't. They did this because devs could then start porting apps. They also wanted to release (too, arguably) soon, but that was in order to not let the development go Enlightenment style.

Are you in denial? They fired the DNF team.

No: http://www.duke4.net/news.php

Why the hell didn't they delay the release?

Why the hell didn't Microsoft delay Windows 95 when it wasn't finnished? Because sometimes, you have to. Better always ship then don't. However it is not a LTS release, so it's bleeding edgy stuff.

KDE actually delivers what it promises

I suppose it depends how you count. They released a 4.0 that wasn't ready. They knew precisely what message they were sending, and are to this day trying to talk their way out of it.

Allthough it's not the DNF that we were 'promised' with insane interactivity, it is going to be released I think.

Are you in denial? They fired the DNF team.

That's totally Kubuntu and not KDE4. They are a little 'understaffed' so can't really blame them

The bluetooth thing was a known bug, and they released it anyway. I do blame them for that. Why the hell didn't they delay the release?

Unfortunately the PC games market is in a major decline,

Citation needed.

Fact of the matter is that PC gaming remains more profitable for most publishers. The big publishers tend to design for consoles as less actual development needs to be done. PC gaming is far from "in decline" with Valve and Stardock continually selling games beyond the estimated demand. Stardock's biggest failure with Sins of a Solar Empire is not printing enough disks to meet demand. this 10 billion odd dollar industry really looks to be failing, sir that is just a Microsoft troll and a poor one at that. PC gaming has been declared dead more times than Lazarus but it's is alive and strong, its not going anwhere. We've outlasted 7 console generations each of which supposedly heralded the "death of PC gaming", heck PC gaming has seen three console makers go out of the hardware business (Sega, Atari, 3DO). MS and Sony are just the latest bunch to try and use this old joke.

EA and their ilk will not swear off the PC market because per unit it is more profitable, and it makes up for a fair chunk in sales (lets ignore the MMO market, WOW's several million per month subscribers). The problem is that EA and their ilk wish to control PC gaming like they control console gaming. Also, the Wii has been the only profitable console, not only in the actual hardware sales but in software sales as well, especially seeing as the software sales do not have to subsidise the hardware.

Once again, how did this get modded insightful? the Parent is a troll and a bad troll at that.

The hardware is not a concern. If you son treats it like crap

You are making a console for children (primarily teenagers) who are renown for not taking care of their hardware. Logic dictates that you know about this, being common knowledge but released a product that would not stand up to a reasonable amount of wear and tear. If Microsoft were an Australian or European company Consumer protection would have torn them a new one by now.

If you can't afford it, man up and say so. If you simply don't want to buy him one, let him know that.

He did say that he didn't have the budget for it. Not quiet the same as not being able to afford it. But getting a gaming console is not a matter of life or death and it is you who is making it seem that the parent is being unreasonable by not buying his son an expensive entertainment platform. Taking you back to primary shcool, an Xbox is a want, can you tell me the difference between a "want" and a "need".

BTW, if the GP doesn't want to pay for his 14 yr old son to get an Xbox that 14 yr old son can get a job and buy one for himself like I did except that mine console was a SNES that was about half the price of an XBox 360 (adjusted for inflation) and had decent games that had re playability.

Firstly - woot, Fallout 3.

Secondly, banned for drugs: http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/07/olfc_report_why_fallout_3_was_banned_in_australia.html

Has now been re-rated, and is ok: http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=46&p=156&sTitle=Fallout+3&sMediaFilm=1&sMediaPublications=1&sMediaGames=1&sDateFromM=1&sDateFromY=1970&sDateToM=8&sDateToY=2008&record=229214

Both links found via Wiki.

Found here

//Leached from someone else's hard work in Kotaku comments
(http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/07/nintendos_patent_case_the_unanswered_questions-2.html)

The OFLC did vote on an R18+ classification but voted against it because the idiot Attorney Generals had no understanding of the media involved.

Actually, it's only one idiot Attorney General. Michael Atkinson, the Attorney General of South Australia. He is the man who is wholly responsible for the absence of a R18+ rating.

The refusal of console manufactures (Nintento, Sony) to actually release a game with such a rating makes it kind of pointless though, PC gaming is a different story I guess.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/07/olfc_report_why_fallout_3_was_banned_in_australia.html

In summary: from the OFLC report, it was the drug usage in the game. More information in the article.

It's pretty sad really. I wonder when Michael Atkinson will step down from office, so that we can actually get a forward thinking attorney general for South Australia.

In the meantime, we import.

I wonder if that might have something to do with it?

Word has it that that the OFLC may only give out R18+ ratings on games when there is unanimous support from all the attorney generals in Australia. And they all agree it should be allowed, except for one asshat who wants to think of the children.

You missed it. Take Two already implemented a nuisance-lawsuit version of the Bush Doctrine and sued Jack Thomson preemptively. That's how to have to deal with these sorts of fellows.