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You gave them something of value (your data, and the opportunity to grab your eyeballs).
And they gave you the expectation that they would store your data for you.

The term you should be looking at is not "payment" but "consideration".

Putting aside whether the examples you give would actually be deemed adequate consideration, the term you should be looking for is "freedom of contract." The MySpace terms and conditions are crystal clear that (1) their liability is limited to the amount actually paid , and (2) specifically disavow any additional liability for "destruction of the MySpace services":

NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY CONTAINED HEREIN, MYSPACE’S LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER AND REGARDLESS OF THE FORM OF THE ACTION, WILL AT ALL TIMES BE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT PAID, IF ANY, BY YOU TO MYSPACE FOR THE MYSPACE SERVICES DURING THE TERM OF MEMBERSHIP. THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY WILL APPLY EVEN IF ANY OF THE FOREGOING EVENTS OR CIRCUMSTANCES WERE FORESEEABLE AND EVEN IF MYSPACE WAS ADVISED OF OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH LOSSES OR DAMAGES, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU BRING AN ACTION BASED IN CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING WHETHER CAUSED, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, BY NEGLIGENCE, ACTS OF GOD, TELECOMMUNICATIONS FAILURE, OR DESTRUCTION OF THE MYSPACE SERVICES).

I'm sure some lawyer somewhere is trying to figure out how to file a class action suit.

Probably not any of them that have a passing understanding of contract law. No reasonable person reading the MySpace T&Cs could come away with the notion that MySpace was taking on the legal obligation to perpetually backup and insure a user's data.

In case it wasn't clear to any Facebook employees reading, see this story from earlier in the week, and some of your predecessors that have gone this route before. You are living in a bubble - please raise the alarm to the others in there with you before it pops.

Companies the size of Facebook that really get into trouble whine at governments to bail them out.

So a government bail out is the reason that MySpace is the vibrant, innovative company that it is today?

Perhaps my memory is slipping, but while I remember banks and manufacturing (especially car and plane manufacturing) getting bail outs, I don't remember any tech companies ever getting a government bail out...

At least in the case of the MySpace and LinkedIn leaks, the passwords themselves were posted online, so it'd be fairly trivial for Netflix et al. to run the lists through their hashing algorithm and see if it gets any hits against their users.

LinkedIn was employing a fast hashing algorithm with no salt back in 2012 when their database was stolen. Which is about one step better than plaintext, given that an attacker can hit it at full speed and can crack them en masse because of the lack of salt.

MySpace apparently began employing doubled-salted hashes in 2013, but the login credentials that leaked were ones that hadn't been used past that time, so MySpace hadn't been able to update them to be more secure since it sounds like they were employing simple hashing prior to that.

As for Tumblr, they said they employed hash+salt on the database that was leaked, so it should indeed take awhile before anything besides commonly-used passwords start showing up from it.

I think you meant to say Orkut. MySpace is still around.

you mean this kind, the reach around!

this has been out in other forms since 2000s https://myspace.com/householdh...

if you dig around you can buy them prebuilt for police use etc etc

police ones open tons of doors

https://myspace.com/householdh...

http://www.shomer-tec.com/inde...
use to sell one that would do any older door in under 2 mins

and a couple of other websites showing code transmit open/close errors etc etc
dude didnt have to alter-code this is been out there for around 12 years

I was wondering if you ever considered changing the layout of your blog? Its very well written; I love what you've got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content so people could connect with it better. bubblegum casting

I thought it was going to be some boring old post, but it really compensated for my time. I will post a link to this page on my blog. I am sure my visitors will locate that extremely usefulI thought it was going to be some boring old post, but it really compensated for my time. I will post a link to this page on my blog. I am sure my visitors will locate that extremely useful. bubblegum casting

Two things that are very important to the Microsoft philosophy are "generating goodwill" and "replacing proprietary bits." Why here's a clip (in Spanish!) from the Simpson's demonstrating this philosophy in action!

https://myspace.com/tanaso4/vi...

So yeah, like it or not, facebook is here to stay, probably longer than 2017

Myspace is still around too.
https://myspace.com/

Nobody really suggests facebook will be gone in 2017, merely that like myspace, nobody will care it still exists.

Fingers crossed.

"We'll clip the nails of everybody on this jumbo jet
We'll give you folks a manicure you never will forget!"

http://www.myspace.com/princemyshkins/music/songs/nail-clippers-13560173

As if you give a flying fuck about "slashdot bandwidth" you worthless piece of shit. Anyone looking at your posting history knows exactly what you are, a troll and a shill. Couldn't even spell a fucking acronym properly (MPIAA anyone?), now you're bitching about "wasted bandwidth" on Slashdot. Here's a waste of bandwidth for you:

http://www.myspace.com/mumblestheclown/photos/8257059#mssrc=SitesPhotos_SP_AllPhotos_ViewImage

You look like a homeless, redneck child molestor. No go crawl back into whatever hole you came out of before you get squashed, insect.

Well they are re-booting MySpace from scratch https://new.myspace.com/ (only viewable on Chrome, Firefox or Safari).

This is still pretty new to us, but we've been looking at this as a positive thing

Hey, I mean, you'll have to forgive me if I can't discern whether you're saying that under duress or while you're busily shredding documents or while you're issuing cyanide capsules or if you're genuinely optimistic about the move. So if you have the time, I'd like to know what aspects of this make your statements genuine. As you noted with the Gawker thing, I get a little uptight about my small little things being bought up and consumed by bigger fish. The bigger the fish that eats you up, the more layers of direction come down upon you. People complain about comments being un-editable and static but I love that. It makes this feel permanent, it allows me to verbally pin people down, etc. But if Executive A five layers removed from you decides it needs to be his way, what are you gonna do? On top of that, how would you have handled the Microsoft source code and Scientology spats if there was someone with money looming over you reminding you of the stakes and telling you to back down?

-- we were worried earlier that if we were rolled into a business that focused entirely on news, we'd be expected to conform to company standards -- see the Gawker sites, for example.

Okay, fair enough. However, I know very little about Dice. And to counter your argument, an advertising company bought MySpace which used to be a social networking site. And now, surprise surprise, it's more ads than user created spaces. You can argue that MySpace was dead already. You can argue that some change had to be made. But I want to know why you feel safe to pick this out to be a plus and not a minus for my overall Slashdot addiction. How do I know Slashdot isn't going to become a vector tool to get eyeballs over to Dice's bread and butter jobs site?

If you have doubts or genuine concern, I'm not asking you to be the turkey with the long neck when farmer Dice comes around looking for his first meal so feel free to reply as Anonymous Coward. I mean, I'm not talking about my employer on web forums so I understand but your arguments should stand on their own -- sans Slashdot icon.

So...no money for phone but money for internet? Priorities, I suppose.

You seem to be lost... Here are some websites you might find more interesting:

http://www.aol.com/
http://www.myspace.com/
http://www.americanidol.com/

http://www.myspace.com/pmg-goa

Hm, you're right but "Machinekunt" is one of her projects/bands whatever ("My name is Rachel Haywire and I run the alternative record label/modeling agency/fashion company machineKUNT." Rachel Haywire being the alias of Rachel Marone) so it reflects badly on her that apparently there are unfulfilled commitments. You'd have to assume Kickstarter is aware of this.

The girl seems to attract drama :

Side-line-forums:
"Congrats haywire, instead of sticking it to unter null, you have turned this into a lets all hate haywire thread again, so we wont even remember what all this other crap with unter was about.

Now its about you again, aren't you happy?

Congratulations. You are clueless. Nothing you say about anyone else ever sticks, you make them look like angels, even if they are in the wrong."

Accusing people of stealing her bands work and even her autobiography:

"Soon this rip-off band (not just my musical themes and vocal style but my writings in "Generation Hex" and "Acidexia") was accusing me of "stalking them" simply because I requested a peaceful resolution. It appears that they hacked my record label website, impersonated my identity through a false mirror site, and stole money from my fans. They were finally given a cease and desist letter after they pulled all this bullshit. I figured this would be the end of their harassment but I was wrong. It's a well-known fact that many cease and desist letters do not work. They only further instigate the criminals."

More drama:

"Recently, there has been a situation which has come to light here on VF, something that has created alot of for many, but, makes most of the people who comment on it look terrible, as well as the person who is the perpetrator to the whole situation. Of course, I am referring to Madam Haywire, aka, Rachel Haywire, and her assault on anything she feels is a slant towards her, including TerrorFakt, and such. Now, I don't have a beef with Rach, that's first and foremost, my only beef with her was that she put out that horrid attempt at a rap song, but, from what I've been hearing, and from what I've been reading (mostly from her posts), she isn't generally hated, but, she's also not well liked.

And this is, if you go based on what a majority of users here on VF would say, mostly her fault...I don't really agree with that, because I don't know the causes to her situation with all of these folks, I wasn't there, and I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon, BUT, I am going to accuse her of enabling all of the ABUSE she has received here on VampireFreaks, simply because of the course of actions she has taken against whoever she's having a tif with. I feel that alot of what's going on, on both sides of the spectrum, is infact childish, there's no need for mudslinging, that isn't what VF was about in the first place, people need to stop...Rachel especially needs to stop!!"

In 'Surely you're joking' he describes the last days of the Manhattan project, where they made up patent ideas for nuclear everything (cars, planes, etc). They considered it a joke at the time. There's a copy of that bit of the story online here.

However, if you did come up with some fundamental technology, and had the cash to file all the patents, it seems like a plan - though not for the inventor. Feynman's cut was just $1.

Feynman had the patent on nuclear powered aircraft.

Every single country in the world that has ever industrialized has experienced steep declines in population growth as its citizens become wealthier and more educated. This trend is already very noticeable in the up-and-coming Asian and BRIC countries.

Indeed, but it is unclear when this will happen to populous African countries such as Nigeria and Tanzania. Nigeria could rise from 150 million today to 425 million by 2050, Tanzania could rise from 50 million today to 300 million by 2050, pushed by fertility rates of over 5 births per woman.

Sub-Saharan African population will rise from around 800 million today to 1.5 to 2 billion by 2050. This should push world population to over 10 billion by 2050.

There would have to be a very dramatic political/cultural change in Africa to achieve widespread industrialzation to reduce fertility rates.

Perhaps some good governance might help.

Are you sure you're in a band? You're missing an opportunity here.

As in, I've never met a band who doesn't take a shot at hawking their album, given the opportunity.

Got samples? Music video? Free tracks? I can't be the only curious one, but I guess I was the only one to ask.

If you insist. :)

http://www.myspace.com/theacceleratorsperth

Theres itunes and amazon links there (Go buy the MP3s, easier to torrent, it OK, I'm giving you permission)

6 years ago....

Looks like it's still living to me.

What's pointless is any further debate about moving to 20MHz samples at 64 bits when music distribution has a much more serious (and actually real) problem. So much of our music is being destroyed beyond recovery before it even leaves the production desk.

No music I produce will succumb to this trick, ever. Perhaps that's why I don't get as much radio play these days.

This coming from the guy who grew up in L.A.'s backyard. You're a funny man.

Go try to park on Wilshire Boulevard, or go to West Hollywood where the cop cars have rainbows painted on them. (note: when I lived in L.A., the WeHo cop cars had a Pink Floyd-style rainbow design on their doors - it comes with the territory of being a boyfriend of a fag-hag). How's that for family values?

As for your three items, San Diego is probably the most conservative big city in the United States. Yet, come visit downtown SD, and I can show you all three of your items within 3 blocks of city hall.

Here is my bet.

This will turn into an utterly mundane case of the DHS deciding this he was an aspiring singer trying to come to Hollywood to work on a tourist visa (or visa waiver).

Here is a newspaper article that seems to be about the same guy's singing career: http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/05/05/...

Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/leighbryanmusiconline

Youtube: [NSFW]
http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialLeighB/videos

Somebody with the same name as the female in the pair did some acting in the UK previously. But I have no other data so don't know if they are the same person:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3960874/

http://www.myspace.com/theangrypimp03/photos/4892418#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A4892418%7D

Methadrone, noise/drone/post-rock with a metal soul.

http://www.myspace.com/methadrone

Myspace was here RIP.

http://www.myspace.com/800273talk

(my professors words "Google has made the investigators life so much easier, 15 years ago you needed high level access to gather this kind of information, now it's just the right search terms")

Professors are famous for making sound bite pronouncements like this. They try to sound dramatic and relevant.

Andrew (Drew) Fabbro. Took a little bit (15-20 minutes) but I finally got you. Here's your LinkedIn, complete with your name, picture, and every job you've worked at for the last twenty years. I'm sure there's plenty more info on you out there. I looked for "afabbro" on the web, but too many hits came up, and that was just a dead-end. So, I started looking through your slashdot comments, and noticed the preponderance of Oracle posts, and did some search terms with "afabbro" and "oracle" and eventually found your LinkedIn profile, which matches your slashdot profile. I even matched your LinkedIn photo with this video from your Youtube account that I had found earlier. Oh, and here's your MySpace account, as well. You also live near the Glendoveer Golf Course, judging by the editorial you sent into your neighborhood paper.

And I've never even taken the course.

It's no wonder there are crashes...

Q.E.D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quBYjBH_1-Y

The transport of bees however is completely understandable. It's the only way to keep churning out more copies of "Sock Full of Bees".

(Audio NSFW, Audio/Video NSFE [not safe for empathy])
http://www.myspace.com/video/sarah-leigh/sock-full-of-bees/2773468

Her Myspace page also has her day of birth, including the year, so if it is her, she should sure them too... which would be a pretty weird move, if she posted that information herself.

Interesting: Steven Paul Jobs.

Quote: "I have 3 kids (Lisa is not my daughter, enough of those rumors)."

Wikipedia: Steve Jobs.

Quote: "The couple have three children. Jobs also has a daughter, Lisa Brennan-Jobs (born 1978), from his relationship with Bay Area painter Chrisann Brennan.[43] She briefly raised their daughter on welfare when Jobs denied paternity, claiming that he was sterile; he later acknowledged paternity.[43]"

Wikipedia's reference 43 is page 2 of Fortune Magazine's March 5, 2008 article, The trouble with Steve Jobs.

Quote: "When Jobs had his own illegitimate child, also at the age of 23, he too struggled with his responsibilities. For two years, though already wealthy, he denied paternity while Lisa's mother went on welfare. At one point Jobs even swore in a signed court document that he couldn't be Lisa's father because he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child." He later acknowledged paternity of Lisa, married Laurene Powell, a Stanford MBA, and fathered three more children. Lisa Brennan-Jobs, now 29, graduated from Harvard and is a writer."

From page 1 of that article: 'Pondering this issue, Stanford management science professor Robert Sutton discussed Jobs in his bestselling 2007 book, "The No Asshole Rule: Building a Civilized Workplace and Surviving One That Isn't." "As soon as people heard I was writing a book on assholes, they would come up to me and start telling a Steve Jobs story," says Sutton. "The degree to which people in Silicon Valley are afraid of Jobs is unbelievable. He made people feel terrible; he made people cry'

Another quote from page 1: "... his deployment of stock options at Apple and Pixar, which exposed both companies to backdating scandals."

From page 2: 'Jobs' break-the-rules attitude extends to refusing to put a license plate on his Mercedes. "It's a little game I play," he explained to Fortune in 2001.'

'One former board member described Anderson's role as "tantrum controller." '

'The company discovered "irregularities" with 6,428 grants between 1997 and 2001 - roughly one in six that Apple issued during that period. (New disclosure requirements after that time caused backdating to dry up.) The company also found no instances of backdating before Jobs took over as CEO. Apple was forced to restate its earnings, taking a pretax charge for unreported compensation expenses of $105 million.'

"Disney, which bought Pixar in 2006, also investigated and found a backdating problem there during Jobs' time as CEO."

Page 3: "Anderson, in an extraordinary public statement he issued after settling his case with the SEC, disputed Apple's exoneration of Jobs. Through his lawyer, he said he alerted Jobs to the accounting implications even as the CEO was in the process of picking a retroactive date for the grant to his top lieutenants. He also said Jobs assured him that the award had been properly approved by Apple's board."

Page 4: "It was a great speech, simple and moving - though it clearly left the false impression that Jobs had learned of his illness in mid-2004 and immediately proceeded to surgery, when in fact he had learned of it in October 2003."

I've studied the issues for many years, and have formed the theory that Job's abusiveness is possibly the cause of his illness.

If you're an outsider, why do you care about an article that essentially only matters to insiders? And while we're explaining the intricacies of the software industry, I will take the opportunity to introduce you to this wonderful invention. It's called a search engine. When you don't know what something means, you can search for it yourself, therefore avoiding looking both ignorant and lazy.

By the by, this is /. Notice the subtitle: "News for nerds". I think you may be lost. You may feel more comfortable here: http://digg.com/ or perhaps here: http://myspace.com./

I'm not fan of using Wikipedia as a reference source, but if you don't know what "common knowledge" is, you shouldn't be bogging down a discussion by throwing out "citation needed" for common knowledge.

A bit circular, on purpose.

Probably better than asking for internet links would be for you to go down to your local PD and ask to file a complaint against an officer.

Circular, because that is how I like it.

It doesn't matter to me how loud a song sounds; I can always turn the volume down or use something like ReplayGain to lower the overall level. The real issue is the compression of the dynamic range used to achieve louder sounding music. This proposal doesn't address that: a volume limit isn't going to provide an incentive to expand the dynamic range, since producers are just going to make sure every song bumps right up to the new brick wall.

Dynamic range simply isn't important to most producers and consumers of popular music now.

Maybe it's because I'm a dinosaur myself, but I can't stand over-compressed recordings. Few people are aware that terrestrial radio stations often limit and compress their signal before transmitting it - a technique that I think probably began as a way to let the sound stand out against road noise for those who listen to the radio in their cars. The problem is that not only does that limit the dynamic range (how much so depends on the level of compression), destroying the artist's intended contrast between quiet passages and loud ones, it also increases the noise level in the quiet passages (because any existing noise on the track is also amplified by compression) and distorts any subtleties in the loud ones (i.e. - a note can't die away organically, because high compression/limiting forces it to maintain a constant level until it's nearly silent). Compression/limiting also creates a "pumping" effect in songs that have been mixed using what's called an "exciter", the effect of which is difficult to explain, but quite easy to hear, if you have both a processed and unprocessed version of the same track to listen to.

I use compression/limiting in mastering my songs, but I do so in multiple passes, and I always use "soft knee" limiting, rather than a hard, clippy-sounding limiter. And I leave enough dynamic range for the quiet passages to actually contrast with the louder ones.

You can hear some of my latest stuff here, if you give a damn (Javascript and cookies required).

Since you are such a true believer answer something for me...what does God need with a starship? Hell our whole damned mideast policy, with propping up scum like Mubarak and kissing Israel's booty no matter how many times they flip us the bird can be sadly explained by a single sentence..."Jesus won't come back!" which of course makes me want to add "Come back Shane! Err Jesus!"

Now you explain to me why we should send millions a day we don't have, prop up scum that makes us truly despised in the region, so that a 2000+ year dead guy can have a place to park his fluffy cloud according to a sheepskin written by an 1800+ year dead goat herder? If your Deity is actually a God, what does God need with our money and weapons? Can't he just magically make the Jews stay in Zion without our assistance?

As for TFA I'm frankly shocked that they aren't rotting in prison. try watching The Largest Street Gang in America to see who we are up against. As we have seen time and time again their answer to thuggish and downright criminal behavior is to attack the messenger while shielding the gangbanger with a badge. I live on what is known as the meth highway and frankly I'd rather take my chances with the dealer than to deal with our "boys in blue" because at least the dealer usually isn't out to stir up shit and pick a fight, I can't say the same about the gangbangers with badges.

Don't Download This Song!

Ha, you made me curious!

Tom? Is that you?

I heart /.

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/30864175

"We did nothing when they took our pencils away from us. We did nothing, when they disarmed us by taking our spoons away from us. After that, they took away our bananas."

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/3108686

Facebook:
http://opensource.appleseedproject.org/
http://www.joindiaspora.com/
http://www.myspace.com/

Amazon:
http://www.bookfinder.com/about/booksellers/

Skype:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software

Twitter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumblr
http://www.plurk.com/

Apple:
http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
http://www.ubuntu.com/

eBay:
http://online-auction-sites.toptenreviews.com/

Google:
http://www.thesearchenginelist.com/

The perfect theme song for the rebrand - let's get some marketing synergy going!

http://www.richardhell.com/lyrics2.html#BlankGeneration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3x-VdOb44

(And of course: http://www.myspace.com/richardhellvoidoids )

It even addresses MySpace's problem:

I belong to the blank generation and
I can take it or leave it each time
I belong to the ______ generation but
I can take it or leave it each time


.

My personal connection is behind two layers of NAT. I have ZERO connectivity issues with my business site and network from home, without needing a VPN.

How nice for you. What is your point in relation to my original statements that NATing the internet wouldn't work?

My site has taken a redditing, 4chan DDoS and slashdotting all on the same day, and stood up, most websites will never have the capability to claim that.

You mean this? A journal entry doesn't classify as a "slashdotting".

Do you really expect me to be impressed by 6 static content pages with a shopping cart redirecting to a third party payment system? It's laughable that you consider this noteworthy.

I even checked out your other claims, such as Reddit (which you submitted yourself). Wow, how did you stem the tide with those 4 upvotes and 23 comments?! (11 of them being from yourself and the others criticising your website)

The 4chan DDoS I'm guessing you just made up since it makes no sense at all for anonymous to go after you.

None of this information you've posted makes you impressive or knowledgeable about networking. You are simply a fraud who figured no one would call you out of your bullshit. Stop trying to pretend to be something you're not.

Anyway this is besides the point. What has anything you replied with got to do with my or your original comment? Nothing, I think this pretty much shows you're wrong when you can't even back up your original statements and instead simply go completely off topic.

While you think I'm going to be obsolete, I'm busy producing full crops without requiring light for photosynthesis. I can grasp and understand systems and their processes far faster than you could possibly imagine, and streamline the entire thing.

All of which has nothing to do with networking. I'm happy you've decided to switch jobs. IT was obviously not your strong suit.

Hopefully you'll also fix your attitude problem, lying and inability to actually stay on topic. Oh wait, you're just making slashverts my bad. Keep trolling.

Oh and by the way, you're only 28 years old and you think you're old hat?

And that is why I have my job as a research director.

Ofcourse you are Mr. Research Director (turn off your sound folks).

Reminds me of the SNL episode with Will Ferrell doing George Bush and the "Axis of Evil".

Don't listen to what the economists say. Why? Because they like math, and math is very much a part of the Axis of Evil.

If you need a good laugh, here's the video: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=32947614

I don't know who this Pete Moss guy is. He seems to be either a DJ or a rock musician depending on which guy you're referring to. He doesn't seem to be into heavy metals. I'd say it would be far easier to use peat moss

Stewart can be serious too.
 
Check these out:
  Stewart on Crossfire
  Jon Stewart wins, CNN cancels Crossfire

Because I sued 'em for copyright infringement.

THC, the Tinfoil Hat Crew, is the name of my music project painstakingly developed in 2005 with copious amounts of gin and chronic masturbation.

p.s. freelance trolls are alive and well.