Slashdot Mirror

If google really want to do what described in this article, word processor, a spreadsheet app, a photo editor, an instant messenger, a browser, a music jukebox, and any other "software application" running inside a Web framework , a new way of communication is need. Those protocols used today like Asynchronous JavaScript + XML, combines JavaScript, dynamic HTML, and XMLHTTP are too complicated.

Developers need something simpler and bolder to work efficiently.

And a new IDE is needed also, nvu + venkman is far from enough.

What, you run vi in a terminal window, that's more than enough, I think.

It has been embodied in the form of Nvu.

From here, it says the latest 1.0 beta (version 0.81) was released on February 10, 2005. Not exactly sitting there since last year.

Already is....

http://www.nvu.com

is the composer even being maintained any more by anybody?

In Oct 2003, Michael "short attention span" Robertson announced a that he was funding a plan to create a replacement for Microsoft's FrontPage, called NVU that was based on the original Composer code. It's been sitting in beta ever since. Rumor has it that it's being developed by one programmer who shares his time with other projects. It's supposedly at 1.0 beta (actually version 0.8) but it's been sitting there since last year. It may not be abandonware, but it's as close as it can be. Needless to say, it's got no hope of ever being a FrontPage-killer....

The composer is alive and it's being maintained actively.

The current version is 1.0-Beta, and it's much better than any alternative I've seen in the OSS world, much better than mozilla's equivalent. Take a look or download it.

The composer is alive and it's being maintained actively.

The current version is 1.0-Beta, and it's much better than any alternative I've seen in the OSS world, much better than mozilla's equivalent. Take a look or download it.

The composer is alive and it's being maintained actively.

The current version is 1.0-Beta, and it's much better than any alternative I've seen in the OSS world, much better than mozilla's equivalent. Take a look or download it.

XUL ides. Ok not much, but it's a start. Personally I feel Mozilla should also start some development projects. Mozilla is no longer working on the composer, that is now being sponsored by Linspire. I think a push from Mozilla to build a XUL ide is a very good idea.

Would it be interesting to write a decent Office suite based on XUL and mozilla? Maybe code can be reused from NVU

That could ultimately lead to a whole range of Mozilla based products. Sounds cool to me!

NVU is by Daniel Glazman, and based on Composer.

Much better.

Well there is NVU. That is according to their own words "A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users as well as Microsoft Windows users to rival programs like FrontPage and Dreamweaver."

It's in it's third pre-release of the 1.0 beta and are based on Mozilla Composer.

But it's always better to code by hand, since you usually can't make semathically correct code in a WYSIWYG editor. (though for design some of them are usable.)

NVU [1] is a standalone version of the composer which is actively developed (probably more so than composer) and works nicely alongside Firefox.

---
[1] http://www.nvu.com

The stand-alone Composer is known as Nvu. It's sponsored by Linspire (of Lindows fame), which as far as I can tell is why its not on Mozilla's page. However, MozillaZine does report on it from time to time.

Homepage - http://www.nvu.com/
Download - http://www.nvu.com/download.html

The stand-alone Composer is known as Nvu. It's sponsored by Linspire (of Lindows fame), which as far as I can tell is why its not on Mozilla's page. However, MozillaZine does report on it from time to time.

Homepage - http://www.nvu.com/
Download - http://www.nvu.com/download.html

What you are looking for is Nvu. http://www.nvu.com/ It is a standalone version of composer funded by Linspire which works very well. It even works nicely as a means to write standard documents instead of using a normal word processor.

Your solution is at hand. NVU is a multi-platform "spin-off" of Mozilla Composer, based on the Gecko 1.7.5 engine used by the Mozilla Suite and Firefox 1.0.

Composer is being redone as Nvu

Have you looked at Nvu? It's based on the Composer included in Mozilla (in much the same way that Firefox is based on the Mozilla browser). I've never used it myself, since I write all my HTML by hand, but I've heard good things about it.

Oops, never mind. If anyone wants the Mozilla HTML Composer as a standlone app, go here.

I would expect people to still use a visual editor, such as NVU for visual work.

tt2site, which is based on tt2ttree, is currently under-documented, but looks like it could shape up to be a fairly easy to use templating solution, requiring minimal use of the command line. (Until someone writes some GUI hooks to run it from Quanta).

Have you heard of Nvu? Being part of the coding-HTML-in-sleep brigade, I haven't actually tried it yet ;-)

This is excellent news for Nvu, the Wysiwyg HTML editor,since it's v0.70 will be based on Firefox 1.0. Porting it should be reasonably easy now :-)

Daniel, Nvu engineering lead

Isn't Nvu supposed to be based on Mozilla Composer?

Check their download page here: http://www.nvu.com/download.html

Or for those too lazy...

Mac OS X:

nvu-0.60-mac.dmg

Windows:

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.exe

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.zip

Check their download page here: http://www.nvu.com/download.html

Or for those too lazy...

Mac OS X:

nvu-0.60-mac.dmg

Windows:

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.exe

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.zip

Check their download page here: http://www.nvu.com/download.html

Or for those too lazy...

Mac OS X:

nvu-0.60-mac.dmg

Windows:

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.exe

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.zip

Check their download page here: http://www.nvu.com/download.html

Or for those too lazy...

Mac OS X:

nvu-0.60-mac.dmg

Windows:

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.exe

nvu-0.60-win32-installer-full.zip

NVU
Linspire is pleased to have been able to contract with Daniel Glazman from Disruptive Innovations to be the lead developer and maintainer for the Nvu project. Daniel has been the chief architect for Mozilla Composer and brings a tremendous amount of experience and expertise to the Nvu project.
About

NVU
Linspire is pleased to have been able to contract with Daniel Glazman from Disruptive Innovations to be the lead developer and maintainer for the Nvu project. Daniel has been the chief architect for Mozilla Composer and brings a tremendous amount of experience and expertise to the Nvu project.
About

NVU? anyone?

http://www.nvu.com/

It's the third component to the seperated suite, financed by the Lindows team. Currently sitting at 0.60, it's looking better and better all the time.

NVU is starting to get really nice, otherwise, and it is based on Composer. I think it is supposed to be at least partly merged back in too.

http://www.nvu.com/

This should be as an Internet Suite not an intergrated package a la Mozilla.

That way each application can piggyback on the succes of the others. Currently Firefox is getting all the press and as such could help Thunderbird. When Gaim get's better VOIP featurers they can drive the market penetration for a while etc.

Each application should be independant with an overall effort to make them look and feel alike.

A XUL killer app would round it off nicely

Hope you manage to resurrect composer too...

Composer is actually being worked on by Daniel Glazman as a standalone product called Nvu.

Nvu is your answer.

You can import bookmarks from Mozilla to FF with little effort. I keep both around for the Mozilla mail client, but I may break down and install Thunderbird and NVu and wait for the suite to catch up, if ever.

What about NVU? It is still in beta, but it already offers enough functionality for basic web sites.

I've you've ever used Netscape or Mozilla Composer, you've used Nvu (with somewhat fewer features).
Nvu was started from the Mozilla Composer code base. I discovered it earlier this year and I love it. It's perfect for my needs.

You probably want www.nvu.com instead... It's got a newer binary (0.41 as opposed to 0.20).

Nvu is fairly rockin if you ask me. Even if you don't, its still at least good.

I know a separate composer is being worked-on, but at the moment, you have to download the whole Mozilla

No, you don't, try Nvu. Based on the Mozilla Composer source and maintained/developed by the Moz Composer dude. Funded by Lindows, because they want to have a Frontpage/Dreamweaver competitor on Linux, but works on windows as well.

NVU.com

See: http://www.nvu.com/

Say what you want about Lindows, but these guys are consistently delivering useful programs for Linux. First nvu for html editing, then Lsongs, then Lphoto and now PhoneGaim. Bashing Lindows is almost an olympic sport on Slashdot, but they are out-delivering all other desktop Linux companies put together.

Also, all those programs and constant updates are one click easy via their CNR technology which also gets routinely disparaged. Meanwhile posts to slashdot complain about makefiles and such not working. Now that is poetic justice.

And every one of those programs is open source so while it may debut on Linspire it's available to all. Desktop linux needs Lindows and 3 more companies like it.

Absolutely. The only reason(s) that I still use Windows 2000 as my primary OS on my primary box is that I can't get a) Photoshop, b) Dreamweaver, c) Take-Your-Pick to work on Linux or (my personal preference) BSD.

GIMP isn't yet a viable alternative--I've tried it, it's getting better, but it's still not there yet.

There really aren't any alternatives to Dreamweaver (with the possible exception of Nvu, although that looks a little too simplistic).

And any number of other applications that I use on a daily or weekly basis.

I will welcome the day with open arms when I can use an open source OS as my primary. But that day isn't here for me yet.

Nvu is a standalone WYSIWYG web authoring system based on Mozilla Composer and may become an official Mozilla project in the future. Downloads are available for Linux and Windows. It's still young, but it gets better with every version.

NVU is a stand-alone composer, based on Mozilla.

I occasionally startup the suite for page editing (usually I just use vim), and I always use Thunderbird for mail.

If you like the old Mozilla page editor, head over to Nvu for its successor: nvu.com.