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Now if only there were an alternative.

From www.realnetworks.com, there's a link in the upper right hand corner just under the main "button bar": Free RealOne Player.

From there. On the right side near the buttom: Download the Free RealOne Player Only. One automatic redirect and the download starts. Two clicks. That's not bad.

From www.realnetworks.com, there's a link in the upper right hand corner just under the main "button bar": Free RealOne Player.

From there. On the right side near the buttom: Download the Free RealOne Player Only. One automatic redirect and the download starts. Two clicks. That's not bad.

To my knowledge, no one is capable of editing web-enabled video like Real, or WMV. Most applications edit in an uncompressed format like avi or uncompressed quicktime (depending on if you're on a Wintel machine or a Mac) and then allow you the option to export the completed cut as a Real or compressed Quicktime file. If not, there are plenty of third party apps that will do it for you. There's good reason for this, in that users who have encoded video for the web probably don't want people to be able to pull it down and edit it, not to mention the processing overhead that would come with having to decompress codecs like real or sorrenson. Plus, you'd run into quality issues when trying to composite visual effects or transitions (wipes, fades, etc). Final Cut Pro can't do it, and neither can Premiere. I certainly don't think this should be a strike against this fine looking application.

I simply looked at the requirements page linked from Real's homepage. Then I checked the link there to the older players, and only Mac OS 7.0/8.0 were available.

Hardly Elementary, my dear Watson.

As you probably guessed, I don't use RealOne or Mac OS X.

And, of course, real.com is a twisty maze leading, mostly, to the pay versions of their products/services.

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I simply looked at the requirements page linked from Real's homepage. Then I checked the link there to the older players, and only Mac OS 7.0/8.0 were available.

Hardly Elementary, my dear Watson.

As you probably guessed, I don't use RealOne or Mac OS X.

And, of course, real.com is a twisty maze leading, mostly, to the pay versions of their products/services.

next

Err, are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Hint: It's Mac OS X native.

I, personally, would like to see OGG1.0, MP3 Pro and WMA8 take on some real tough to beat codecs such as Dolby's AAC High-Complexity Mode (which no AAC freely available encoder supports, including QuickTime) and Sony's ATRAC3. But, that'd be kinda moot, because most people out there do not have access to those toys.

sounds like you use windows.. the realone player for linux is really quite nice.. better than the thing they had out before. if you want to download it and give it a spin.. you can start off here Community forum /a

Using the information from the RTSP Proxy White Paper, it should be feasible to build a very simple client which would simply download all UDP packets and save them sequentially in a .ram file. The document explains how streams are controlled etc.

Anyone know if such a tool exists (the foremenyionned StreamBox is for Windows and moreover requires a crack)?

You can stream their songs off the website, y'know. For example, Autechre: Gelk.

Unfortunately you need RealPlayer.

Ah, but it's not just about making sales to earn revenue. The other real reason for making a linux port available is that is would help them keep their market share. True, we don't have a reputation for buying software - but many of us do have brand-loyalty... especially when well-known Windows products are made freely available (beer-wise) to *nix.

If a linux version of Quicktime doesn't appear, there's an awful lot of linux users out there who'll just use a competitor's product.

Come on, Apple - wake up! Real have made a Linux/Unix version available!

Ah, but it's not just about making sales to earn revenue. The other real reason for making a linux port available is that is would help them keep their market share. True, we don't have a reputation for buying software - but many of us do have brand-loyalty... especially when well-known Windows products are made freely available (beer-wise) to *nix.

If a linux version of Quicktime doesn't appear, there's an awful lot of linux users out there who'll just use a competitor's product.

Come on, Apple - wake up! Real have made a Linux/Unix version available!

Realplayer is avaliable for Linux. Get it here.

And here are the direct links to the Real Player movies, since Mozilla just tells me to download the plugin and so I have to search through the source:

Trailer

First 8 Minutes

or this!

or this!

instructions and link to get it: RealOne
There is NO direct link to the download because of the registration process.
Here is how to get it:
1) Goto http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html
2) Fill in the form and Choose Linux 2.x (libc6 i386).
3) click on "Download Community Supported Player"
4) Don't click on the normal download links. Go look at the very bottom of the page. You will see
" RealOne Player for Unix - Preview Release If you would like to try the alpha version of RealOne Player for Linux 2.2 x86, use the button below." 5) Click on that button and download

Erm, the aforementioned form is broken, says the latest irix version is 5.0 when I have 8 installed.

http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html

The link for the real player download for non-Windows systems is quite well hidden on real.com

http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html

Tell me about it. A useful link then (admitedly easily found via Google, but whatever): download older versions of Real Player (all the way back to v3, I run 8 but whatever works for you).

http://proforma.real.com/real/player/blackjack.htm l

I couldn't find anything about any non-windows versions of real player from www.real.com either, but a little googling turned up this.They have builds for GNU/Linux, Irix, AIX, Solaris, HPUX, and Unixware, on i386, Alpha, PowerPC, and MIPS.

That's gotta be about as many platforms as I've seen supported by any commercial free-beer-ware.

While hard to find, the UNIX binaries for Real Player are still available (including Linux). If you want to contaminate your system with non-free software (like me) then use the link above.

Yeah I could if i Had real audio. Anyone will to write down the conversation and post it some were so those of us who don't have real audio can read it?

Fucking Waaahh!!! Get off you're stupid, lazy, bitchy, fagot ass and install it chump:

http://huxley.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html? src=rpbform

Well, this is what you would've seen if you were one of the first 10 people to click the link... poor lil' webserver...

Real-time streaming audio from the C64

This C64 server is not only running a web server, but is also running
a very simplistic RTSP/RTP (Real-Time Streaming Protocol/Real-Time
Protocol) server that is compatible with RealPlayer
version 8. This makes it possible to send real-time streaming audio
over the Internet directly from the Commodore 64.


The cassette port on the C64 is capable of sampling 1-bit samples at a
maximum rate of approximately 8000 Hz. We are sampling 1-bit audio
from the cassette player and sending it out over the Internet using
the TFE Ethernet cartridge. To reduce the load on the C64, we only
allow one listener to listen at a time and only for about 20 seconds.

Listen

In order to listen, you'll need to have the free RealPlayer 8 Basic (click on the "RealPlayer 8
Basic" link at the bottom left of the page). While the streaming audio
server might work with other players, we haven't tested it with
anything but RealPlayer 8 Basic.


When RealPlayer is installed, click here. If
RealPlayer says that it is experiencing network problems, this is
because someone else is already listening. Beware! It sounds
terrible.

Playlist

We are playing remixes of famous C64 SID music taken from the
faboulous C64 mp3 remix site remix.kwed.org. Because of the bad sound quality of
the real-time audio stream, it is impossible to tell which tunes we are
playing.

Without taking any part in the debate of browser integration, I feel that it is an absolute necessity to speak out the facts about the Windows Media Player.

Basically, Media Player will play back any audio / video format for which a DirectShow filter is available. The API is completely published; anybody can go out and write their own DirectShow filter for any new audio / video format that (s)he might develop. It is also completely open in the other direction; anybody can go out and write their own media player that can take the full advantage of all the DirectShow filters installed on the system. Good examples are Zoom Player (good for crappy TV-out chips like in some Geforce2 MX cards), TMPGEnc (can read in any video format that is supported and write out MPEG-1 or 2) and AVISynth (virtualizes any DirectShow-supported video format into .avi that all video editing programs understand).

Additionally, Media Player 6.4 is the absolutely best media player program that there can be. It's light weight, fast, simple, easy to use and doesn't have any advertisements. It can also retrieve newly supported codecs automatically from a server in the Internet, although this feature hasn't been used much. Compared to RealPlayer and Quicktime Player, the superiority is obvious.

It looks more like Apple and Real are pissed off because they would lose precious advertising and branding revenues if any media player program could play back their files. As previously noted, *anybody* can write their own DirectShow filter so Apple and Real definitely have the technical abilities to make those, but don't want to do so. Of course, it would mean that anybody could use the DirectShow filters to re-encode the content from their proprietary formats to some open format like MPEG-1 or 2, and reduce Real's and Apple's exclusivity value. It would also mean that people wouldn't be limited to their crappy, ad- and spyware-ridden media player programs.

Incidentally, DivX was supported in Linux originally thanks to the DirectShow filters being available. It was relatively easy to hook them up to a media player in a completely different OS, even if the source code wasn't available. Not very surprisingly, neither the Realvideo/audio codecs nor the most common Quicktime codecs are supported in for example mplayer.

In other words, would you REALLY want to see the standard Media Player removed from Windows and have it replaced with RealPlayer and Quicktime Player that don't play half of the formats that Media Player does, and are slow, sluggish, difficult to use and filled with advertisements and spyware, and are basically dead-ends when it comes to video formats and video processing? I wouldn't.

They did a good job of hiding them, but you can go here to get the old RealPlayer software.

I still like the older version of RealPlayer 8 Basic. I saw RealOne in action once and decided that I would rather be castrated with a dull butter knive that use the software. You should pick up a copy of the older versions before they change their minds and stop offering it to the public: http://proforma.real.com/real/player/blackjack.htm l

Business 101 - try really , really hard to piss off your customers

Ah yes, the real model.

Anyway, this is pretty damn evil. I bet the gnucleus guys are loving that they're being associated with such horrible scumware.

My sarcastic detector really hasn't kicked in yet this morning, but he's refering to this product and not any of that crap Real puts out.

Realdoll in itself sound scary, I've seen their website and their player. I don't think I would feel safe around one of their robots.

analysts say the company is likely to pressure customers to make the move to the Longhorn release of Windows through licensing incentives or other means.

As one industry website points out,

Note that the DMCA's rationale for granting performance royalties in the digital world was based on the concept that digital copies are "perfect" copies and thus the sales of CDs (called "phonorecords" in the act) might be at risk in this new "digital millennium." ...

On the other hand, try this on for size.

• Find a reasonably good quality net broadcaster.
• Make a copy of a good song off of that net cast.
• Make a copy of that same song off of the radio
• Play back an original CD of the sound, followed by the netcast, and then the radio copy.
• notice which is the best, and which is the worst.

Internet radion, on the other hand, rarely reaches those rates. looking at the Real audio's tuner page shows 3 station:

KASR FM Radio (sports) broadcasts at 20Kbits/second (I'd describe it as grotty)

Euromix Radio(" Pop to house, trance, techno and energy remixes from DJ Daizzy, ToolMix, Terry Tate and..") broadcasts at 32K bits/second. This is actually better quality than many netcasters, but you can definitely tell that it's a net cast. even with pure voice content in a language I can't understand. KASR radio (specializing in classical music, and thus a good representative of the "high end" of the quality scale) broadcasts at 64Kbits/second. Decent quality, but -- at 6:30AM, on a Sunday -- they're at their audience limit. I can still hear the bite of audio compression (when I can reach them). --- In fact, they're not up to the quality of AM radio -- much less FM.

Going to their search listing for "Seattle", (where Real Audio is based) shows stations rangingr from 20K bps up to 96K for Groove Radio (split between audio and video). I actually found a listing for a Chicago station that claimed 256K/sec, but I couldn't get to them. (I'm guessing that they're also a video/audio mix).

When I worked at GlobalMedia.com (now defunct), we had people who could squeeze the last bit of quality out of a 64K audio stream... (some webcasters don't quite understand what the issues are for getting a decent quality webcast). Even so, the quality never stood up to broadcast radio -- much less the CD player on my computer going through my (25 year old) receiver.
-----

Once you debunk the 'perfect digital copy' myth, then you can get on to the question of what's a resonable royalty rate, as opposed to what would compensate the RIAA for their supposed loss of business.

As one industry website points out,

Note that the DMCA's rationale for granting performance royalties in the digital world was based on the concept that digital copies are "perfect" copies and thus the sales of CDs (called "phonorecords" in the act) might be at risk in this new "digital millennium." ...

On the other hand, try this on for size.

• Find a reasonably good quality net broadcaster.
• Make a copy of a good song off of that net cast.
• Make a copy of that same song off of the radio
• Play back an original CD of the sound, followed by the netcast, and then the radio copy.
• notice which is the best, and which is the worst.

Internet radion, on the other hand, rarely reaches those rates. looking at the Real audio's tuner page shows 3 station:

KASR FM Radio (sports) broadcasts at 20Kbits/second (I'd describe it as grotty)

Euromix Radio(" Pop to house, trance, techno and energy remixes from DJ Daizzy, ToolMix, Terry Tate and..") broadcasts at 32K bits/second. This is actually better quality than many netcasters, but you can definitely tell that it's a net cast. even with pure voice content in a language I can't understand. KASR radio (specializing in classical music, and thus a good representative of the "high end" of the quality scale) broadcasts at 64Kbits/second. Decent quality, but -- at 6:30AM, on a Sunday -- they're at their audience limit. I can still hear the bite of audio compression (when I can reach them). --- In fact, they're not up to the quality of AM radio -- much less FM.

Going to their search listing for "Seattle", (where Real Audio is based) shows stations rangingr from 20K bps up to 96K for Groove Radio (split between audio and video). I actually found a listing for a Chicago station that claimed 256K/sec, but I couldn't get to them. (I'm guessing that they're also a video/audio mix).

When I worked at GlobalMedia.com (now defunct), we had people who could squeeze the last bit of quality out of a 64K audio stream... (some webcasters don't quite understand what the issues are for getting a decent quality webcast). Even so, the quality never stood up to broadcast radio -- much less the CD player on my computer going through my (25 year old) receiver.
-----

Once you debunk the 'perfect digital copy' myth, then you can get on to the question of what's a resonable royalty rate, as opposed to what would compensate the RIAA for their supposed loss of business.

As one industry website points out,

Note that the DMCA's rationale for granting performance royalties in the digital world was based on the concept that digital copies are "perfect" copies and thus the sales of CDs (called "phonorecords" in the act) might be at risk in this new "digital millennium." ...

On the other hand, try this on for size.

• Find a reasonably good quality net broadcaster.
• Make a copy of a good song off of that net cast.
• Make a copy of that same song off of the radio
• Play back an original CD of the sound, followed by the netcast, and then the radio copy.
• notice which is the best, and which is the worst.

Internet radion, on the other hand, rarely reaches those rates. looking at the Real audio's tuner page shows 3 station:

KASR FM Radio (sports) broadcasts at 20Kbits/second (I'd describe it as grotty)

Euromix Radio(" Pop to house, trance, techno and energy remixes from DJ Daizzy, ToolMix, Terry Tate and..") broadcasts at 32K bits/second. This is actually better quality than many netcasters, but you can definitely tell that it's a net cast. even with pure voice content in a language I can't understand. KASR radio (specializing in classical music, and thus a good representative of the "high end" of the quality scale) broadcasts at 64Kbits/second. Decent quality, but -- at 6:30AM, on a Sunday -- they're at their audience limit. I can still hear the bite of audio compression (when I can reach them). --- In fact, they're not up to the quality of AM radio -- much less FM.

Going to their search listing for "Seattle", (where Real Audio is based) shows stations rangingr from 20K bps up to 96K for Groove Radio (split between audio and video). I actually found a listing for a Chicago station that claimed 256K/sec, but I couldn't get to them. (I'm guessing that they're also a video/audio mix).

When I worked at GlobalMedia.com (now defunct), we had people who could squeeze the last bit of quality out of a 64K audio stream... (some webcasters don't quite understand what the issues are for getting a decent quality webcast). Even so, the quality never stood up to broadcast radio -- much less the CD player on my computer going through my (25 year old) receiver.
-----

Once you debunk the 'perfect digital copy' myth, then you can get on to the question of what's a resonable royalty rate, as opposed to what would compensate the RIAA for their supposed loss of business.

As one industry website points out,

Note that the DMCA's rationale for granting performance royalties in the digital world was based on the concept that digital copies are "perfect" copies and thus the sales of CDs (called "phonorecords" in the act) might be at risk in this new "digital millennium." ...

On the other hand, try this on for size.

• Find a reasonably good quality net broadcaster.
• Make a copy of a good song off of that net cast.
• Make a copy of that same song off of the radio
• Play back an original CD of the sound, followed by the netcast, and then the radio copy.
• notice which is the best, and which is the worst.

Internet radion, on the other hand, rarely reaches those rates. looking at the Real audio's tuner page shows 3 station:

KASR FM Radio (sports) broadcasts at 20Kbits/second (I'd describe it as grotty)

Euromix Radio(" Pop to house, trance, techno and energy remixes from DJ Daizzy, ToolMix, Terry Tate and..") broadcasts at 32K bits/second. This is actually better quality than many netcasters, but you can definitely tell that it's a net cast. even with pure voice content in a language I can't understand. KASR radio (specializing in classical music, and thus a good representative of the "high end" of the quality scale) broadcasts at 64Kbits/second. Decent quality, but -- at 6:30AM, on a Sunday -- they're at their audience limit. I can still hear the bite of audio compression (when I can reach them). --- In fact, they're not up to the quality of AM radio -- much less FM.

Going to their search listing for "Seattle", (where Real Audio is based) shows stations rangingr from 20K bps up to 96K for Groove Radio (split between audio and video). I actually found a listing for a Chicago station that claimed 256K/sec, but I couldn't get to them. (I'm guessing that they're also a video/audio mix).

When I worked at GlobalMedia.com (now defunct), we had people who could squeeze the last bit of quality out of a 64K audio stream... (some webcasters don't quite understand what the issues are for getting a decent quality webcast). Even so, the quality never stood up to broadcast radio -- much less the CD player on my computer going through my (25 year old) receiver.
-----

Once you debunk the 'perfect digital copy' myth, then you can get on to the question of what's a resonable royalty rate, as opposed to what would compensate the RIAA for their supposed loss of business.

The big question is, will Microsoft respond in the same way and back down?

Scroll down and there is a Unix verion available as well. -Tommy

The links are really really small, I think it's done that way on purpose... here is where you can find what you're looking for:

Real Player 8 which is good. It's not the newest version so they don't give you the option to download JUST the player anymore, which is hard to find. Email me (address listed above) and I can send you the RP8 install (basic, non-network install).

RealOne Player which in my opinion sucks. This new piece of bloatware does everything the previous versions did but so much more (that you don't want it to do). I recommend against it.

The links are really really small, I think it's done that way on purpose... here is where you can find what you're looking for:

Real Player 8 which is good. It's not the newest version so they don't give you the option to download JUST the player anymore, which is hard to find. Email me (address listed above) and I can send you the RP8 install (basic, non-network install).

RealOne Player which in my opinion sucks. This new piece of bloatware does everything the previous versions did but so much more (that you don't want it to do). I recommend against it.

For the Macromedia Flash plugin, visit this page: ShockwaveFlash

Currently it has a link to flash_linux.tar.gz.

For RealPlayer 8 follow that link and fill out the form.

The other alternative is to look at Anon Cowards post which has a link, or borrow your mate's computer and steal his plugins. :-)

By the time Windows 2000 becomes obsolete, Linux could gain enough popularity that people can avoid product activation altogether. Companies like Opera and Real are now supporting Linux shows that it's gaining momentum now, and the fact anti-virus companies are pretending Linux will soon become a virus target shows that Linux being on the desktop is very real.

www.real.com is the consumer side of RealNetworks and
www.realnetworks.com is their business side.
Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with them.

OpenSource is unAmerican. I would write my Congressman if any of our blessed Agencies used that communist software, especially when the economy is hurting. We need to support American software companies in this time of great national crisis. Thank you, and God bless.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/s erve/multiwp.asp

http://service.real.com/help/library/guides/doc/4m ulti.htm

So if Media Player isn't included what replaces it?

Easy. WinAmp and/or RealPlayer. What about .ASF files you may ask?

Bag 'em or (at the least) still "allow" M$ to offer it as a free download.

Well, it's about time Netscape got with it and jumped on the dot com bandwagon. The whole "media hub" thing is a really cool new idea...I mean nobody's doing that.

Sure, its still there. They just make it difficault for you to find it. *hint*
until (succeed) try { again(); }

Go to Real's website and click on Realplayer at the top. Then scroll down somkewhat and click on the link that says "Realplayer 8 Basic -- is our free player". That's where to get the free player (they also seem to have a *NIX version). Good luck!

http://scopes.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html? src=rpbform

Unfortunately, you need Quicktime to view this ad. Feh!

Here's a direct link to the Salon RealPlayer version (which I've just watched on Linux).

You can dowload a Linux version of RealPlayer Basic from here. Well, hopefully you can, assuming I've got the link right.

Pete.