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Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany

Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers

Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."

Is that blue partisan Cool-Aide tasty? I think you have been drinking a bit too much of it.

Oh like your red Flavor-Aid, which isn't even cherry flavored, but some alleged fruit flavor?

Seems like there is a limited bag of tricks over there. Bush lied, Trump lies... Bush was a racist, Trump is a racist... I know more than one republican and I can tell you not all of us are lying racists who want grandma dead and starving children, in fact, I don't know even one true republican who fits that description, including Trump. Lay off the blue stuff. You don't have to agree with our choice of methods, but it doesn't mean our ultimate goals are not somewhat the same in most cases.

That's nice, so why are you voting for lying racists who would run over grandmothers on their way to stealing food from the hands of hungry children, who are also lying con-artists who would sell this country out to foreign powers, start wars out of fits of pique, commit sexual assaults, bluster fake noise about birth certificates for years, and otherwise demonstrate a generally malignant nature that is blatantly obvious? That you don't know how you're seen or want to admit what you're actually doing is probably why you need to consider your choice of methods reflects on your ultimate willingness to compromise yourself and makes your purported goals quite doubtful.

This was actually the subject of the criticism of the March for Life and other evangelicals who are eagerly associating themselves with Trump, Moore, Spencer, and other characters of dubious merit.

Seems like you're all too willing to stick to a false appeal to your own martyrdom, rather than examine and consider your own conduct. Maybe you should learn a new method yourself.

You can't keep relying on the doctored videos of James O'Keefe.

ah, little Troller Boy is still upset in defense of, again, the perennial martyr of the Right, the Great Sarah Palin, the least contributory of all of the losing VP-candidates throughout history, the one who all you have to say about is over the mean liberals and leftists who say such harsh words.

How Sad that that's ALL you can offer about her. Or her drones.

It's ok, we know you have nothing. No leadership. No integrity. It's trolling all the way down for Dumb-Ass-Troll.

They would have brought her to trial at least... She did things people are sitting in jail for right now.

For fucking what??? I always here the same whining from the hard right, but there is never any substance. I know you're upset because president hairdo cause the government to shut down, but that doesn't alter the facts, no matter what you insinuate or even believe.

Dumbass. There was even classified emails actually marked classified on Anthony Weiner's laptop - via Huma Abedin.

That's a felony. Period. "Intent" is irrelevant.

And every damn person who has access to such information has actually signed documentation attesting to the fact that they know doing something like that is a felony.

And every damn person who has access to such information KNOWS Hillary! is a felon.

And yes, the shutdown is the Resident's fault. That's where the buck stops.

Ok, so show us the bill passed by the House and Senate to keep the government funded that the President has refused to sign.

What fucking color is the sky on your planet? Because it sure as shit ain't blue.

I bet elementary school was the best decade of your life.

After reading the article, summary and the non-hidden comments, I noticed that Microsoft was only mentioned once. It was mentioned in the article, only in passing reference to reforms surrounding litigation.

This is ridiculous. Microsoft, Intellectual Ventures, and their trolls have been a tax to innovation for decades.

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In addition, they use their global footprint to avoid taxes on multiple continents.

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How can the summary and so many comments utterly fail to mention this?

There may be a couple million people in the world who speak some Klingon, but I'd bet the number who can sustain a conversation fluently in Klingon for, say, half an hour, is probably less than 5000.

Probably much less than 5000. This article estimates the number of fluent speakers of Klingon at a few dozen.

...and terrorists, as used in Ukraine, Libya, and Syria. Prominent politicians including Howard Dean have lobbied for MEK, which was on the State Department's list of terror groups until people started asking why people like Dean weren't being prosecuted, when the government sent someone to prison for carrying a Hezbollah TV channel. Iran has been on the "regime change" list since they kicked out the Shah. Obama spent years threatening to attack Iran for a nuclear weapons program he knew they didn't have, and Trump hasn't been any better.

So, take these protests with a BIG grain of salt.

...and terrorists, as used in Ukraine, Libya, and Syria. Prominent politicians including Howard Dean have lobbied for MEK, which was on the State Department's list of terror groups until people started asking why people like Dean weren't being prosecuted, when the government sent someone to prison for carrying a Hezbollah TV channel. Iran has been on the "regime change" list since they kicked out the Shah. Obama spent years threatening to attack Iran for a nuclear weapons program he knew they didn't have, and Trump hasn't been any better.

So, take these protests with a BIG grain of salt.

I did read the links. O'Keefe does hidden camera investigations. The fact he did one into AntiFa isn't the only evidence against them. And the charges against O'Keefe are politically motivated bullshit - his sin was exposing the lies and bias of leftist media organisations and NGOs.

Nope. His sin was being a lying bullshit spewer, which lead to him becoming a criminal, your sin, of course, was to believe him. Repetitively.

Any prosecutor dumb enough to allow such a taint into a trial, well, no wonder incompetence is rampant.

But hey, keep relying on them, it's a big sign that you've got less than nothing.

Did you just pull that stat out your ass?

No, he's exactly right about Donald Trump spending 1 in 4 days of his presidency on the golf course. As of the time I'm writing this, Donald Trump has been in office 343 days, 3 hours, and 59 minutes (not that I'm counting). During that time, he has golfed or visited a golf course (to eat in the club) 85 days. We know this because we have a comprehensive list of the presidential visits to golf courses. Notice that of the 85 golf course visits, all but one have been to Trump-branded properties, meaning he gets to wet his beak in some of the expense of that travel.

http://trumpgolfcount.com/disp...

Now, 85 goes into 343 approximately 4.035294117647059 times, which means that Trump has been to a golf course a little over 1 in 4 days, which makes him the golfingest president since William Howard Taft, who coincidentally was also a big, fat SOB.

This is especially interesting considering Trump's many (23) promises during the campaign that "I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go play golf,"

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/...

At any rate, the headline quote is true.

Just as Luke would say, everything you just said is wrong.

She didn't ORDER anything. She just agreed they could cut it down; she didn't tell them to do so.

I'm pretty sure so is every Facebook and Twitter story

And apparently Newsweek and the New York Times...

To place traditional media above even Twitter is at this point ludicrous.

Truth.

Truth.

Truth.

Truth.

I get it though, you're too afraid to admit what the GOP has become in its quest for political power.

>Actually the republicans donate more money then democrats do, often to help the poor and charities.

really where are the numbers ? And relatively more or absolutely more ?

Better yet, what's the effectiveness of their charitable spending.? And what's the spending really on?

Because you know, those Conservatives often have their charities being less than perfect.

Not to mention that Hobby Lobby business. Which the usual suspects defended.

This story broke just a few days ago.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2...

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/...

Autocrats gonna be autocrats.

Not useful for fighting crime, although perhaps some sort of awful genocide.

Or eugenics. It's not like our government hasn't tried it before.

You mean at the end of their shift? You can drive on the road non-stop for 10-12 hours in most places in north america, that's 100% legal. You're not even required to take 30 minutes off half-way through your shift if you want, you can just keep driving. You have no idea exactly what happens in that industry do you.

California - which accounts for many of Tesla's preorders - isn't "most places" and requires breaks for truck drivers. Now, since you were so busy being an ignorant, arrogant know-it-all that you skipped over the point on range-wankery (most likely on purpose) I'll copy and paste:

What's with the "one-size-must-fit-all" meme when it comes to EV's? Do you call a Prius worthless because it can't haul fifteen passengers while at the same time towing an 8,000 lbs trailer? Do you call an E-350 worthless because it can't park in the same space (while getting the same gas milage) as a Prius?

If you're going to be a good capitalist bootlicker and hook yourself up with a catheter so you can drive 14 hours straight without stopping, then this probably isn't the rig for you. For people who aren't corporatist toadies, it will work just fine when they stop for a burger after 8 hours on the road.

It was left-leaning governments that allowed longer driving hours

Bootlicker, you know Carter was a right winger, yes? Party labels have jack to do with how "left" or "right" someone is - otherwise gay rights, gun control and abortion rights are prized conservative values, because Mike Bloomberg.

"We loaded up all 13 of our buses with maybe 70 people on each bus, and we had those buses rolling nonstop up and down the coast into San Francisco the day before the election," recalled Jim Jones Jr. "We had people going from precinct to precinct to vote. So could we have been the force that tipped the election to Moscone? Absolutely! Slam dunk. He only won by 4,000 votes. I'm sorry, but I've got to give my father credit for that. I think he did the right thing. George Moscone was a good person; he wanted what was best for San Francisco."

Yes, that Jim Jones. Of Jonestown. The one we got the phrase "drink the Kool-aid" from (even though it was actually Fla-Vor-Aid). Full confession viewable at: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/0...

Most of my posts are stupid crap like this, though. My username, based on this guy should have been a hint. Even Weird Al Yankovic knows about this guy.

Surprisingly it turns out that geese aren't the only thing that travel in flocks.

https://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/who_killed_keith_ratliff_youtubes_gun_nut_celeb/ - the guns, they do nothing.

http://wgntv.com/2014/11/26/mom-shot-and-killed-by-her-toddler-son/ - well, yes, they do.

Damore's memo was just misogynist bullshit.

That's a very cheap claim to make without any reasoning.

It's been reasoned many times before. For example here are two rather well written articles about it:

https://www.quora.com/What-do-...

https://www.economist.com/news...

Now, the defenses in respnse to these articles involve giving huge amounts of benefit of the doubt to the point of ignoring almost everything implied or that follows from the arguments in the memo. That's one option I guess except that here's James Damore in his own words:

https://www.salon.com/2017/09/...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jam...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Jam...

I think it's clear from these comments that my (and others) inferences about where the memo was coming from were actually correct.

Anyway bring on the -1 trollbait mods! If there's one thing James Damore supporters can't stand it's the free speech they claim to support.

And one more thing: if you actually support some varian of improving things for men, then don't support this guy and his bullshit about gender roles. If you've ever pointed out how few men there are in certain jobs here, then don't support Damore's bullshit about gender roles because that is enforcing that separation. If you've ever complained about how men often pursue dangerous, but well paid jobs (contributing to increase workplace deaths for men) then don't spport this gender role bullshit because that's where a lot of the pressure comes from.

IOW this bullshit is bad for men and women. If you're a man and not a feminist you should still not support it because its bad for you. This guy and his army of supportes are trying to coerce you into a mould whether you want to be in it or not via this enforcement of gender roles.

It should be your choice not theirs.

His problem is that he does that classic "internet rational" thing of looking up some studies that support his established view, not reading them carefully enough and ignoring the historical context.

It's not just the Google memo either. Take this now deleted tweet:

The KKK is horrible and I donâ(TM)t support them in any way, but can we admit that their internal title names are cool, e.g. âoeGrand Wizardâ?

An extremely naive person might agree that "grand wizard" does sound kinda cool, because they don't know the historical context. The KKK chose those silly names to make themselves sound harmless. It's a simple, childish trick but one that people like Damore fall for. Their names are not cool at all, the correct adjective is deceptive.

So while I'm sure he doesn't intend to support the KKK in any way, unfortunately by ignoring this context and stating that their names are "cool" without further comment, he is helping them.

If anything the problem is that his memo tried too hard to be rational, to the point where it blinkered him to issues that don't have simple statistical definitions.

For example, he says that women are on average more neurotic, and that explains some of the gender gap. The problem with this argument is that it minimizes the other issues that cause the gap, which was in fact the entire point of his memo. It's also a huge generalization and the conclusion massively exaggerates the significance of the test results.

Damore also undermines his claim to be rational with his tweets. Once fired and free to speak his mind without filter, it becomes obvious what his biases are.

https://twitter.com/JamesADamo...
https://twitter.com/JamesADamo...

A since deleted tweet documented here also demonstrates just how naive Damore is, and how he fails to understand historical context before making bold statements.

because it would hurt feelings is not acceptable

Unfortunately, it is very hard to have a rational conversation about these issues because Damore supporters mod down any dissent as "flamebait" or "troll".

It doesn't matter. Hannity is now giving away 500 Keurig machines, so the message is "pull your advertising from my show and I'll buy a bunch of your product."

The outraged snowflakes are flailing around and accomplishing nothing.

You appear to have redefined the term 'misogynist'. Could you perhaps highlight the "misogynist bullshit" in Damore's document because I didn't spot it.

Oh gosh, you didn't? How terrible. If only there were numerous critiques of the paper so you could have read them, instead of having to rely on your own abilities.

Oh wait, there are. You're just blowing smoke, pretending to be upset over a few internet trolls, while ignoring others for your own self-aggrandizement.

Whether he had valid points or not, the way people have demonised his writing means he was indeed clearly working within a hostile workplace culture. It's just that it was clearly hostile to men, not to women.

Or maybe they're hostile to bullshit artists. Like you. Who want to demonize them, because it's easier than facing their criticism.

Huh.

The whole reason for loosening these rules, and the rules on local ownership, is to pave the way for the far-right Sinclair Broadcast Group to buy even more TV stations across the country. Instead of local news, you will only get stories that reflect the Sinclair agenda.

More centralized control over local media.

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/...

Here's what this story is really about: The Sinclair Broadcast Group.

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/...

Interesting "coincidence" around Trump's executive order authorizing the activation of retired military personnel was signed recently..

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the...

This was signed with the explanation that it is solely intended to do so in order to get the air force pilot rosters back to their mandated minimums by activating retired air force pilots. It is still cause for concern when viewed in conjunction with these other activities..

Reading from an article from: https://www.salon.com/2017/10/...

"But the broad wording of the executive order seemed to imply that the executive branch would have the power to call up retired military officers and force them back into service for any reason, as the “emergency” Trump used to justify the executive order was extremely vague: “the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.”"

Amazon and Microsoft contribute to making Seattle a MISERABLE place to live. The world, not just Seattle, needs better city management. (Posting this again, with improvements.)

Amazon: Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (February 23, 2014)

Amazon: Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace (August 15, 2015) Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."

Amazon: Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (February 19, 2013)

Microsoft: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012) The Microsoft headquarters is in Redmond, part of the Seattle metropolitan area.

Seattle: Together with Amazon, Microsoft, and inadequate city management, Seattle is an extremely miserable place:

Traffic: Seattle one of the worst U.S. cities for traffic congestion, tied with NYC (March 31, 2015) Quote: "An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic may not sound like much, but when it adds up over a year it becomes 89 hours." (Whoever wrote that must be accustomed to Seattle misery. An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic sounds HORRIBLE.)

Slow internet: Many areas of Seattle have poor internet connections. See the article, These places have the slowest Internet in the country. (June 25, 2015) Quote: "... Seattle ... CenturyLink (CTL) customers trying to access particular sites from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will have unbearably slow speeds."

Important questions for city managers and residents of Amazon's new city: 1) Do you want to invite a company to your city that has a history of abusiveness? 2) Could the managers of Amazon's new city manage Amazon's growth, or would it be almost completely out of their control?

May I point out that Hillary was also for Black Lives Matter and Blacktivist, the two groups being paid to protest?

Here's how it works. You pay someone to participate in a protest and then have them do something that's really ugly and angers people.

For example, one paid Russian protester, a guy named "Jack Posobiec", would go to leftist rallies and hold up "Rape Melania" signs. Now this guy is an alt-right supporter of Trump, but he's not recognizable, so people think, "Man, those leftists are really horrible. Look, there's a "Rape Melania" sign."

Then, it gets the front-page treatment on Infowars, Breitbart, DailyStormer, and eventually ends up on Fox News. Total outlay for the sign is maybe a buck. Trump gets elected, and get this: "Jack Posobiec" becomes a "journalist" with White House credentials. So, not only does he get a little money on the front-end, but he gets rewarded by Trump on the back-end. Oh, and Posobiec was also one of the leading "Pizzagate" conspiracy theorists, which we now know was also a Russian op.

Here are the details:

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

https://www.salon.com/2017/08/...

https://www.deathandtaxesmag.c...

Ha, so that 'miracle' played itself out quite a bit when the Pilgrims tried building their Communism and then almost died from hunger because that's what Communism (any collectivism actually) does, it removes personal responsibility together with personal ownership and then everybody suffers.

You seem to be confusing inexperience with the mechanisms of survival in an unfamiliar place with the methodology of organization.

Most likely, a deliberate choice, meant to advance your ideological cause under a cloak of altered reality.

It wasn't until the people become selfish that USA succeeded.

What are you talking about? Plenty of selfish people existed in the USA, they didn't miraculously find success. Many of them tried and failed, without the benefit of anyone like say, Squanto.

You can read lots of articles about the subject.

Of course, you won't, but that's hardly surprising.

Ha, so that 'miracle' played itself out quite a bit when the Pilgrims tried building their Communism and then almost died from hunger because that's what Communism (any collectivism actually) does, it removes personal responsibility together with personal ownership and then everybody suffers.

You seem to be confusing inexperience with the mechanisms of survival in an unfamiliar place with the methodology of organization.

Most likely, a deliberate choice, meant to advance your ideological cause under a cloak of altered reality.

It wasn't until the people become selfish that USA succeeded.

What are you talking about? Plenty of selfish people existed in the USA, they didn't miraculously find success. Many of them tried and failed, without the benefit of anyone like say, Squanto.

You can read lots of articles about the subject.

Of course, you won't, but that's hardly surprising.

Ha, so that 'miracle' played itself out quite a bit when the Pilgrims tried building their Communism and then almost died from hunger because that's what Communism (any collectivism actually) does, it removes personal responsibility together with personal ownership and then everybody suffers.

You seem to be confusing inexperience with the mechanisms of survival in an unfamiliar place with the methodology of organization.

Most likely, a deliberate choice, meant to advance your ideological cause under a cloak of altered reality.

It wasn't until the people become selfish that USA succeeded.

What are you talking about? Plenty of selfish people existed in the USA, they didn't miraculously find success. Many of them tried and failed, without the benefit of anyone like say, Squanto.

You can read lots of articles about the subject.

Of course, you won't, but that's hardly surprising.

Spying on everything you can possibly do with this chromebook, because Google is in the business of marketing your personal information to advertisers. This will probably better enable them to link your credit card to your devices to your viewing preferences, to your buys, to your everything.

Considering that Google is an anti-science SJW organization, I wouldn't be surprised if they disabled these devices for libertarians and right wingers.

However, this isn't just a left or right thing. If there is an upcoming election, you can count on this piece of ..... to be pushing Hillary Clinton ads, and suppressing Bernie content, yet again.

Google is an amoral company. Don't buy their products, or use their services. Block all their crooked websites, their performance-sapping ad campaigns, and their duplicitous products.

http://www.newsweek.com/assang...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.washingtontimes.com...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
https://www.salon.com/2014/02/...

In my experience, white people are much more likely to take an adversarial tone with police, and often get away with it.
https://www.salon.com/2015/03/...

Yeah, he won the clown car race with 16 (or was it 17) candidates by a healthy margin by differentiating himself. But polling throughout the race had him at unprecedented unfavorability ratings, with only Clinton able to even remotely complete. He polled worse than lice and Nickelback.

Also, among the groups of independents, Democrats, and Republicans, Republicans are the smallest group, and only a small subset of them voted in the primaries.

Which is why there are many questions yet unanswered. Without any mention of any other nations, American voting machines are notoriously easy to hack https://fossbytes.com/defcon-2... http://thehill.com/policy/cybe... 2012 - https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/... 2011 - https://www.salon.com/2011/09/...

2005 - https://arstechnica.com/uncate...

This is not fake news, this is not remotely deniable. I knew that the voting manchines were Internet of things easy to hack almost 15 years ago. http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/peopl...

There have been some strange happenings like in the 2012 election where Carl Rove had a public meltdown when he refused to concede the Ohio vote, expecting some districts to come through and push the Republican candidate over the edge and win Ohio. It was interesting in the aspect that Ohio had a strange even in a previous election where the exit polls gave the state to a Democrat, but the vote tally did not. The Republican response was the typical Good Republican Voters screwing with the Media. But that's just a side story, and I digress.

The big question is - with the machines having terrible security, why the hell would a tech-savvy nation not hack and alter the results to mess with an adversary nation or to put in a person they had sway with?

Look, racism is racism, no matter which way you point it; but white racism against blacks is different from black racism against whites because of the numbers involved. And white racism is relevant even when people never meet because of simple things like purchasing power. Where you spend your money is your most relevant vote (as rammed home by the story we're discussing right now) but how you actually vote is also important. And both where these racists spend their money and the way they vote are absolutely impacting black people.

Eh? This isn't some commentary based on "reverse racism" or whatever you were going with here. It's how elites manipulate the electorate to fight among themselves rather than uniting against the elite. We can look at two examples, from the same person, that cover both sides thanks to the wonderful Hillary Clinton:

When she was running around defending the draconian Clinton crime bill in the 90's, calling [minority] kids Superpredators. Playing up racist white resentment as well as any Dixiecrat. And then twenty years later on the flip side, her sycophants smeared Bernie Sanders as having a problem with minorities in the most brazen case of Swiftboating since the Bush Administration (almost entirely staffed with warmongering draft dodgers) smeared John Kerry as a coward for his Vietnam tours.

Part of the reason Trump was elected was Hillary organised to vote for him in the primaries.

FTFY:

An email recently released by the whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks shows how the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party bear direct responsibility for propelling the bigoted billionaire to the White House.
In its self-described "pied piper" strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new "mainstream of the Republican Party" in order to try to increase Clinton's chances of winning.
The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates "as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right." Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be "elevated" to "leaders of the pack" and media outlets should be told to "take them seriously."
The strategy backfired â" royally.

So, it was Hillary, a right-wing incompetent Democrat (like I said the first time) who worked to get Trump nominated.

JFK was on the left.

JFK slashed taxes, sent thousands of "advisors" to continue France's colonialist occupation of Vietnam, and lied his ass off about a "missile gap", that dramatically escalated the cold war. He also forgot to mention in his televised speech on Cuba that the entire reason the USSR wanted to place missiles there was to counter the nuclear-armed Jupiter missiles the United States had just installed in Turkey. He was also happy to play the racist card in a primary debate: "You say you are going to take ten thousand black people and move them into Orange County? It is just going to be catastrophic."

All right-wing actions, not left wing.

Every Democrat today is a hundred miles to the left of JFK.

Certifiable. Democratic leadership, starting with Clinton has been to the right of Reagan. Bill signed a laundry list of massive deregulatory and corporate trade bills that Ronnie could have only dreamed of. He also passed draconian crime bills that tripped the prison population, militarized the police and threw gays under the bus for 15 years with DOMA. Hell, he even tried privatizing Social Security long before Bush did. And then Hillbots had the gall to attack Sanders as being weak on minorities.

Speaking of Ronnie, Reaganism didn't begin with him. It began with Carter. Deregulating the trucking and airline industries, appealing to right-wing Christians and attacked Ford for being soft on the USSR. Oh, and he was also happy to play the racist card: "I see nothing wrong with ethnic purity being maintained. I would not force a racial integration of a neighborhood by government action."

Right. Wing.

Modern Democrats are totally bonkers, and blah blah blah blah blah

Repeal the 22nd Amendment, resurrect Reagan and he'd be the liberal in a three way race between himself, Obama and Hillary in 2020. Reagan insisted Social Security had nothing to do with the deficit; Obama wanted to cut benefits as part of deficit "reduction". Obama took Romneycare national, started a war with Libya without authorization from Congress (something his own VP threatened Bush with impeachment for if he did the same thing to Iran), fought his own party to pass the TPP, went to the right of the GOP with his "sequester" austerity. Obama also tripled the Afghanistan occupation, tried extending the Iraq occupation past the deal Bush made with Iraq, bombed three times as many countries as Bush, overthrew the democracies of Honduras and Ukraine, and repeated the Iraq "mistake" in both Syria and Libya. And Hillary is even more right wing than he is.

Right. Wing.

You actually do.

Come on, man. You think anyone can do anything without getting in some snowflakes bad books? This is America for gods sake! We've got 2 wings on the high flying bird of outrage!

I call bullshit. For the past 8 years, every story related to the government was about "...the Obama administration...". So now that it's Trump, nobody's allowed to say Trump?

No, back then they blamed it on "homeland security", or other departments, not "The Obama Administration".

https://www.dailydot.com/layer...

http://www.allgov.com/news/top...

Can you honestly say that you think this story today would not have been blamed directly on Trump?

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/0...

When foodstamps can be used at McDonalds (http://firstquarterfinance.com/what-fast-food-places-take-ebt-food-stamps-snap/) and to support tarragon rabbit habits of hipster foodies who won't stoop to eating Ramen noodles to get by, there's something seriously wrong with the system. Not to mention the fact that there appears to be a correlation between foodstamps and obesity, it hardly seems that a "supplemental nutrition program" is needed for people for whom foodstamps may just be adding to their already-overly large calorie intake.

I've no desire to see people starving in the streets, but would not cry a tear for hipster foodies if their foodstamps were good for only bags of rice and and bags of beans. Maybe some small amount of lean protein and some multivitamins. Rice and/or beans may be monotonous, but you won't starve. You want something different, that's up to you. Not a lot of arbitrage value in rice and beans, so that type of fraud would likely be reduced, too.

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/1...

Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding — and her usual gigs — to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she’s used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away.

“I’m eating better than I ever have before,” she told me. “Even with food stamps, it’s not like I’m living large, but it helps.”

Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”

Think of it as the effect of a grinding recession crossed with the epicurean tastes of young people as obsessed with food as previous generations were with music and sex. Faced with lingering unemployment, 20- and 30-somethings with college degrees and foodie standards are shaking off old taboos about who should get government assistance and discovering that government benefits can indeed be used for just about anything edible, including wild-caught fish, organic asparagus and triple-crème cheese.

There were 20 million or more Tea Party supporters.

I wouldn't rely on that polling.

According to the SPLC, a far-Left anti-right orgranization, there are about 50,000 white supremacists (neo-Nazis, KKK, etc) in the entire US.

And mysteriously, Republicans opposed it when the FBI presented a report on them. Fortunately, there are others.

From those numbers alone, you can see your basic premise is bullshit.

Your argument is merely your opinion, it isn't especially convincing. But other opinions exist.

The fringe was ignored not because it was accepted, but because it basically DOESN'T EXIST outside of a media focus.

Nope. It wasn't just ignored. The right-wing fought hard to have it buried.

Why do you think the media always talks about Duke and Spenser?

Why do you think those are the only people they talk about?

None of the Tea Party marches endorsed racism, or supported Nazis, or advocated for oppression of opposition groups.

That long-repeated claim is about as believable as the claims that the Tea Party rallies don't leave a mess behind.

On the other hand, the Communists and Anarchists have always had a strong presence on the Left, in Occupy, BLM, and now Antifa. Antifa, which has now been declared a domestic terrorist organization for their continued use of violence against civilians in the pursuit of their political goals...

Declared by who? You? That's not convincing.

But your own condemnation reveals your lies, so I know better than to expect you to admit your mistake. I remember that the Communists, anarchists, the NAACP, the Unions, Occupy, BLM, and now AntiFa, have all been denounced by the right, and condemned, no matter what.

It loses its punch after a while. Meanwhile, you ignore the right-wing violence, and even endorse it. But "blood libel" isn't something you mind spreading to others.

We used to love Dan Pirisi here on slashdot. The guy made a habit out of registering things he didn't like with "Sucks" at the end of it.

http://www.salon.com/2001/06/2...

His case was hard fought and he won with the defense of registering a domain name with "sucks" in it is a criticism of the companies being featured. Good story from the early days of slashdot/the internet.

That is total bullshit. No one is saying every Republican is a Nazi.

Other than FAIR and Salon magazine. I can find more references if you like...

It's no longer a technical problem to eradicate polio. It's a political one. There was a very strong effort to eradicate it which failed in 2006, because of rumors that the vaccine was actually a sterilization agent. Unfortunately, the fear was not entirely unjustified. There *have* been fraudulent vaccines used to force birth control on women in the middle east, so it was not an unthinkable rumor for people in a poor and information poor place like Nigeria. The fact that fake vaccines were used by a country seen by so much of the Middle East as a target of religious anger made it all the worse.

* http://www.salon.com/2013/01/2...

I'm afraid that in an area with poverty, war, and ethnic strife, getting vaccines to all is very difficult. The vaccines are also somewhat dangerous to make, expensive, and have a very limited shelf life, so the doses to eradicate polio _expired_ in the Nigerian effort in 2006.

I do hope that being able to manufacture vaccines less expensively, more safely, and where a native population can get a better view of the manufacture and assure its safety for their own concerns will help the population accept the vaccines enough to eradicate polio.

http://firstquarterfinance.com...

These are the fast food places we can confirm accept EBT cards. Yes, Papa Murphy’s, Taco Bell, KFC, Church’s Chicken, Wendy’s, Dairy Queen, McDonald’s, El Pollo Loco, White Castle, Domino’s, Rally’s Hamburgers, and Subway are all fast food places that take EBT.

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/1...

Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”

Seattle Misery: Together with Microsoft and bad city management, Seattle is a miserable place:

Traffic: Seattle one of the worst U.S. cities for traffic congestion, tied with NYC (March 31, 2015) Quote: "An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic may not sound like much, but when it adds up over a year it becomes 89 hours." (Whoever wrote that must be accustomed to Seattle misery. An additional 23 minutes a day spent in traffic sounds HORRIBLE.)

Slow internet: Many areas of Seattle have poor internet connections. See the article, These places have the slowest Internet in the country. (June 25, 2015) Quote: "... Seattle ... CenturyLink (CTL) customers trying to access particular sites from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. will have unbearably slow speeds."

Amazon: Worse than Wal-Mart: Amazon's sick brutality and secret history of ruthlessly intimidating workers (February 23, 2014)

Amazon: Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big Ideas in a Bruising Workplace (August 15, 2015) Quote: "The company is conducting an experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers..."

Amazon: Amazon Under Fire Over Alleged Worker Abuse in Germany (February 19, 2013)

Microsoft: Microsoft Is Filled With Abusive Managers And Overworked Employees, Says Tell-All Book (May 23, 2012)

Would that also be like the claims by the media, DNC and so on that Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton were just talking about grandkids?

You mean the hysterical screaming by the right-wing media, RNC and Trump that there was a secret conspiracy on the airport tarmac? You went on for weeks about it. Weeks on end.

Then you ended up attacking an innocent pizza parlor.

Or is it just a case that the FBI lied, the DNC and Obama administration covered it up, and the media directly worked with both to try and bury the story.

You mean the story that you were screaming over for weeks, if not months, that you, and the GOP and House Republicans kept trying to fan into a fire, desperate that we believe all their smoke?

But blow as hard as you could, it never happened. Never will either, and you know it.

That's what burns you the most.

Enjoy these FOIA documents, because the whole gigantic clusterfuck of collusion, lies, and complete bullshit from the previous administration and DNC is coming home. You can read the summarized version including the emails here if you don't want to read the ACLJ's stuff. Enjoy the part about the Washington Post wanting to bury the story.

Enjoy how Republicans admitted they faked a scandal. Go read their actual report nterview notes - ... where they desperately tried to claim something bad, but ended up with nothing.. Except in their own minds, where they proclaimed triumph over doing nothing.

Or we can look at Michael Flynn, Paul Manaforte, or Donald Jr. Himself. Now there is some meat. Or Trump's un-independent business dealings.

That isn't even touching on the stuff uncovered by Judicial Watch.

Ah, the famed blind Judicial Watch. Did they ever find Judge Roy Moore? I heard he killed Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the Candlestick. Why don't you just stop? But wait, I remember you lying with James O'Keefe videos and about Alberta's power grid. Yes, I remember you falsely claimed one group was responsible for it to one purpose, when it was actually the prior government for another.

What is it with you, can you just not resist the urge to lie?

Donald Trump seems to have that illness too. Who lies about the boy scouts? Oh wait, after his speech, he had no choice.

It's amazing how anything you say that doesn't toe the social media populism line is immediately considered alt-right, simply because you don't toe the line. I'm not a member of the "right", let alone the "alt-right". And of course you use this as an attempt to discredit me, but it's not going to work, asshole, so take your irrational ad-hominem bullshit elsewhere. But if you do want to debate this rationally, then stop using logical fallacies.

And yes, I'm pretty serious about this. It's probably not uniform across Canada, but go to Toronto and try making edgy jokes to the locals. Inevitably, they're going to avoid the subject. But if you meet with them in private, especially the local Iranians, they make jokes about homosexuals, jews, etc, all day long, as Iranians often do. But, they'll specifically tell you that you NEVER do this in a public place in Toronto.

Comedians notoriously have this exact same problem:

http://www.torontosun.com/2017...

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/1...