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You can search the web for a repo, and add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Precise#IceWeasel should point you in the right direction.

Coming from an avid Linux advocate I agree, Linux "help files" are sorely lacking. I submit though that "Linux Help" is much more available than what you might think.

There are also tons of free publications out there of high quality i.e.: Full Circle Mag (Ubuntu Centric) http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ ; PCLinuxOS has their own magazine http://pclosmag.com/ ; there is the Ubuntu Pocket Guide if you are so inclined www.ubuntupocketguide.com/

If you dig a bit you will get the Ubuntu user guide and a google search returns any of a number of hits for Linux user guides.

Here is a wiki based Ubuntu user guide as well: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid

The problem was historically that these guides were written by geeks, hence not very end user friendly in language use and approach. Only recently did people with a talent for writing understandable and idiot proof documents and books get enough exposure and interest in Linux to produce handy and well written guides.

Linux help is doing a lot better than only a few years ago.

This is a basic Internet Cafe type of problem -- you merely want to run an Internet Cafe for your kids.

There are several solutions (in addition to those listed in this thread) in the UbuntuGuide.org ThinClient/Internet Cafe section at:

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:All#LTSP_.28Thin_client_support.29

or the KubuntuGuide.org ThinClient/Internet Cafe section at:

http://kubuntuguide.org/All#LTSP_.28Thin_client_support.29

When trying to play a DVD on my girlfriend's brand new Ubuntu build it was necessary to download 3 different media applications (settled on VLC, but even that had a fatal bug sometimes) and sift for a while through google just to install the correct libs.

Or, you could have done it the Windows way: buy proprietary DVD-playing software, install that, done.

http://shop.canonical.com/

Click on "Software" and there it is: PowerDVD.

She doesn't use the computer for too much but shouldn't the bare basics work immediately?

I don't think Windows XP comes with a DVD player pre-installed by default. If you buy a new Compaq or Dell or something it probably does have a DVD player, but nobody seems to be selling Ubuntu pre-installed with PowerDVD. Yet.

If Linux is trying to get new users, shouldn't the focus be on effectively presenting the OS to new users?

Who do you mean by "Linux" here? The Ubuntu guys are doing one thing, the Fedora guys are doing something else, etc.

But here's what a new Ubuntu user should be reading:

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/

I found Ubuntu Guide through Google. There are resources out there.

Yes, the world of Linux, even Ubuntu Linux, is not yet a shiny gleaming perfect place. But I know several people who are far less geeky than me, and they are perfectly happy using Ubuntu. The best thing is for a geek to set everything up, and then the user can just use the system.

I always tell people: "There will be problems. There are always problems. But, with Linux, they are different problems than you get in Windows... and I like Linux's problems better. The problems in Windows tend to be things like 'My machine has spyware now and it stopped working!' The problems in Linux tend to be 'I don't know how to get it to do what I want', but once you solve the Linux problems they tend to stay solved."

That's not a tidy message you could have Jerry Seinfeld deliver in a few seconds; I guess that's why I'm not in marketing.

steveha

In Windows, I use VLC to watch dvds. It works straight out of the box, with all necessary codecs bundled with the app. I used the package manager to install VLC, but it refused to launch the dvd, basically acting like there was no mpeg-2 decoder.

Ubuntu ships, by default, with only free software. They cannot include patented stuff such as an MPEG2 decoder, until the patents expire someday.

However, Ubuntu makes it very easy to pull media codecs from repositories. So, if you live someplace where software patents are not legal, you can just grab the codecs and you are done.

If you live someplace where you need to pay patent license fees, Ubuntu also makes it easy to buy legal codecs.

Read more here: http://ubuntuguide.org/ See section 2.4, "Proprietary Applications"

And here's the Canonical store to buy legal codecs: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=242

Yes, and you can get free help at

http://kubuntuguide.org/ (Kubuntu Guide)

and

http://ubuntuguide.org/ (Ubuntu Guide)

The spirit of Linux is largely free!

Go with Ubuntu "server-install" - better updates to future-protect yourself. Hardcore-types might fiddle with Debian, FreeBSD, Gentoo, etc. But there is a growing userbase of the X/K/Ubuntu's that provide many hints and fixes and forums to get and keep you going.

Look for 'perfect server' setups on google. here's an older version of Ubuntu LAMP setup http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Servers

yes, you just need to set the CD up as a repository in the atp sources list. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Adding_a_CD-ROM_or_DVD_repository

It is a matter of knowing your resources. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy Is the quickest way to get things like nvidia set up correctly. It is pretty much only an apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx-new . And it looks like for hardy apt-get install helix-player will install real player.

Make sure you have enabled the universal repositories. Also http://www.medibuntu.org/ and http://www.getdeb.net/ are a good source of apps.

I have 7.04 Feisty on my Dell Latitude 120L with a Broadcomm 43xx wifi card, and it took about 10 minutes after reading UbuntuGuide's http://ubuntuguide.org/ HowTo on it, and that was the first time I'd booted Linux *EVER*.

take a look at this guide:
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva
I cant help you much personnaly - im ubuntu but of the same generation as you. but that website helped me more than anything else.
keep that website bookmarked. it is VERY useful.
if you are still having problems feel free to leave a comment and ill see if i can find some more help.

oh re ubuntu: what i really love about ubuntu is ubuntuguide.org
I know its not official, but u wouldnt believe how useful it is to people who find MANY pages of stuff annoying. i know it has a section: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva for mandriva... but i would suggest you launch something similar yourself....
to be honest, i may use ubuntu, but i dont have any particular affiliation with it and at the end of the day, the competition is probably healthy and productive....

anyway, when i switched to ubuntu i found that website reall really helpful, you might want to consider looking into it, something similar.

I haven't seen one for the differences between Windows and Gnome, ubuntuguide.org was a great place for me when I was starting out. In addition, Automatix is a wonderful tool to install all of the proprietary formats, players, etc. Linux isn't for everybody, but I think that if more people gave it a chance, they would find out that it isn't as scary as a lot of reviewers make it. Walt's review was balanced, but it was also wrong on some accounts (e.g. not being able to adjust the mouse touchpad sensitivity). I cannot totally agree with his experiences, either, as I have had 100% success in dealing with external devices such as iPods. I have been able to rescue a few iPods that were Mac-formatted with Ubuntu, something that I wouldn't want to try on an XP machine.

The review wasn't as comical as some reviews have been. (Who can put Window's Add/Remove programs on the same level as Ubuntu's Add/Install programs?!?), but there was very little content to go with the fluff. I don't think this article really tells us anything we don't know, or really helps sway new computer buyers one way or another.

Theres a synaptic touchpad (the driver all touchpads use) driver gui to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse. Its availabe in the repos, and at that point is system-preferences-touchpad.

For the google impaired:

gsynaptics is the name of the package.

Here's the search that turned it up.. some people can't be helped I guess:

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=synaptic+touchpad+sensitivity+adjustment+ubuntu

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Hardware#Touchpad

> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_i nstall_DVD_playback_capability

        Thank you much. I'll try this when I get home. Wish I had Informative mod points to give.

> sudo apt-get install subversion

        Well, sure, got the usual Subversion client/server installed on my webserver. But with Windows XP, I get to use Tortoise SVN, where I can right-click a file to add it, or right-click the repository to commit it. Anyone know of a good programming editor with integrated SVN that'll look pretty on Gnome?

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_i nstall_DVD_playback_capability

sudo apt-get install subversion

While I think we should promote OO.o adoption as much as possible (it's what I use daily), there are PDF exporters out there that are more transparent.

For Windows: PDF Creator
For Linux you can add a generic PS printer to print to PDF: Ubuntu instructions

While I do agree with all your points, I'd like to stress one: the community. Ubuntu has really managed to get people going - UbuntuGuide, UbuntuForums, Full Circle Magazine etc. So I'd say the Ubuntu phenomenon is in skilled management plus great community.

Heheh... I just installed Ubuntu for the first time 2 days ago. Never used Linux before in my life. All I've been doing since is messing with advanced settings. *_* Now it's working almost perfectly, except for the Finepoint pen tablet (most people don't have one and the drivers for it are iffy).

I'd say the first thing a new user needs to do is read (and maybe print off) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty and then spend a couple of days getting everything up to scratch and learning how to do things -- before getting too attached to their configuration. Do a web search any time you do anything drastic and figure out the best way to do it.

Feisty is dead easy to reinstall if you screw up. Less easy is backing up all your stuff on a crippled machine. Play now, work later. You don't want to need to learn how to log in as root on the command line when you have something due in an hour and your GUI won't start.

For mms or rtsp there is the option of launching external players through about:config as in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_h andle_mms_protocol_in_Mozilla_Firefox
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_h andle_rtsp_.28realmedia.29_protocol_in_Mozilla_Fir efox

But there is no option for the plugins, ie viewing the content inside the browser.

Konqueror is more helpful in that respect, ie it can associate immediately with mimetypes because of its integration with the KDE desktop manager.

For mms or rtsp there is the option of launching external players through about:config as in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_h andle_mms_protocol_in_Mozilla_Firefox
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_h andle_rtsp_.28realmedia.29_protocol_in_Mozilla_Fir efox

But there is no option for the plugins, ie viewing the content inside the browser.

Konqueror is more helpful in that respect, ie it can associate immediately with mimetypes because of its integration with the KDE desktop manager.

I have a Broadcom wireless card. Previously, Ubuntu was the only distro that I could get it to work with, albeit with considerable hacking. In Feisty, I was able to get it going with a minimal amount of tooling around. As I recall it involved downloading fwcutter, which also automatically downloaded the appropriate firmware from somewhere and I was good to go. I think ubuntuguide was where I got the directions from. It also has directions for damn near anything else you might want to set up. The new Network Manager app also made WPA considerably easier.

Now I don't agree with the GP post, but the above link basically consists of installing a bunch of packages (which you can also do from synaptic, a gui program) and running the configurator. (uh, anyone know a better word?) If push comes to shove, it requires you to edit one line in a text config file. Now, apart from the irrational fear many people seem to have from command lines and editing text files, how is that any harder than navigating to the nvidia site, getting an installer, and stepping through it a couple of times? I even believe that the new graphical installers from both nvidia and ATI automatically generate a package for you and install it. Granted, the guide might have changed since you posted the link.

Also the first part of "general notes":

There's often several ways to skin a cat. Generally more so on linux than on windows, which is one of the reasons I like it better. But to try to establish superiority one way or the other is always going to be a flawed approach. Outside of critical mass I can't really think of a way one is much better than the other.

Now I don't agree with the GP post, but the above link basically consists of installing a bunch of packages (which you can also do from synaptic, a gui program) and running the configurator. (uh, anyone know a better word?) If push comes to shove, it requires you to edit one line in a text config file. Now, apart from the irrational fear many people seem to have from command lines and editing text files, how is that any harder than navigating to the nvidia site, getting an installer, and stepping through it a couple of times? I even believe that the new graphical installers from both nvidia and ATI automatically generate a package for you and install it. Granted, the guide might have changed since you posted the link.

Also the first part of "general notes":

There's often several ways to skin a cat. Generally more so on linux than on windows, which is one of the reasons I like it better. But to try to establish superiority one way or the other is always going to be a flawed approach. Outside of critical mass I can't really think of a way one is much better than the other.

The Ubuntu Guide is your friend.

I've had some trouble with this method in the past and I haven't used it since so YMMV. Good luck.

If you go to http://ubuntuguide.org/ you can find a replacement for '/etc/apt/sources.list' which contains sources for all the non-free stuffs you'd want.

Great resource, I have it bookmarked.

David

Yes, very close.

I've dipped into Linux many times (Since before CDs) but this is the first time I've installed it on all my computers.

Yesterday, in fact, I got windows XP running within Ubuntu (My current project requires it) and it was easy, free and very slick. This means I can convert my last remaining dual-boot computers (because of games, mostly) over to Linux.

I still run into things here and there that SHOULD just take 5 minutes but end up taking 2 hours of research, but much less often than with any other distro--and I haven't figured out how to get dual monitors working yet. Oh, and suspend/resume still doesn't work on any of the 3 laptops (I got my wife a MAC and the fact that suspend/resume always works, and does so quickly and smoothly makes me so jealous!)

Every install worked flawlessly in each laptop. CD's, floppies and USB drives are automatically mounted, all resolutions are available on the screens (even wide-screens), and even my wireless internal lan adapter just worked out of the box.

With the addition of Click And Go (I hope it's in this release) it'll be MUCH easier to acquire and install new software than it is in Windows.

If you are considering installing Linux for the first time, I advise you scan this page first--I use it all the time now. It gives you a great summary of what can be done and how to do it. Most "Tasks" are simply a few entries on the CLI now--and most installs can be done from a decent GUI as well (the guide uses CLI because it's easier to describe) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy

Oh, and hey--one complaint (more of an observation actually), for those of you who complain about how often you must enter the root password on a PC, take a look at that page and see how often "SUDO" (the Linux equivalent) is required. Holy cow, it's like every single time you want to call apt-get (in other words, any time you want to install ANYTHING), you have to give up the root password. I believe this means that all install scripts are running as root--I don't know if this is a security hole, but it sure sounds like one. This is the exact equivalent to every windows program install requiring administrator access--something they have at least recognized as a flaw and begun to combat.

But at any rate--seriously, it's now mainstream. Stick it on your grandma's computer. This from a Very Picky user.

And I haven't been able to watch a movie on it yet.

http://ubuntuguide.org/ has everything for the codecs. Feisty Fawn (will be out in April) also has a choice the "add/remove" for a package that installs all of the codecs. Oh, and Ubuntu just hooked up with Linspire to get Click N Run so you can get legal versions of a lot of proprietary stuff.

You shouldn't really need to know where the actual binary is; it should just show up in your menu under 'internet' once installed (you did install firefox with Adept, right?). If you want a quick overview of the Linux filesystem type 'man hier' in a terminal.

Most programs you install will go in /usr/bin/

I've always found ubuntuguide to be immensely helpful.

You can do most of that if you read this:

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy

I know because I didn't have time to spend on a lot of the little details and everything I needed to just work (sans my digital voice recorder, which is my fault for buying the wrong one) was addressed in that guide. Everything worked really well with Ubuntu with little to no fuss. I actually formatted my Windows partition and run just Ubuntu, even my wife uses it sometimes with no instruction and hasn't complained yet.

I however don't play any of the new games, so I don't need Windows for that. So for people who don't play games I honestly think Ubuntu is THE best choice for them on nearly all fronts. Sync'ing with my Ipod was better on Windows using Itunes but Amarok (sp?) does a good enough job, a couple extra clicks are required but in the end I achieve the same result.

Having tried a handful of Linux distributions, I personally recommend Ubuntu. The biggest reason why is the Ubuntu Forums.

It is that easy in Edgy Eft. (Ubuntu 6.10) I just converted my laptop last week. I had to do none of what that article suggests. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_Con figure_Ubuntu.2FKubuntu_with_WPA_using_Network-Man ager

1) Add universal repositories in Synaptic package manager.
2) Type this in in the terminal:
sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
3) Type Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart your display, or reboot if you prefer.

I know this is Slashdot, and the same discussions are re-hashed in every article about Linux, but this kind of broad sweeping statement needs to DIE.

Linux is not simpler than Windows. You don't simply push a button and suddenly everything works. I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and had to fight a small war to get accelerated graphics working. I had to change the wireless network stuff so it used ndiswrapper instead of whatever it was the installer wanted to use to prevent it from constantly dropping connections.

I'm tired of giving examples just to have them shot down by people who think everybody is a hardware expert, has the contents of /etc/ memorized, and oh who cares because nobody needs accelerated graphics on Linux because there's no games to play anyway. If the average user (and my install was very average) needs to manually edit config files, then Linux is still failing at being simple to install and use. To your average user these are not small configuration issues, they are glaring *problems* with the software.

you just reboot and pray

Funny, but I find myself doing this very thing with Linux (what's broken? Is it GDM, Gnome, Nautilus? Did one of the services break? Which one? Ah, screw it, just reboot.)

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_ins tall_Multimedia_Codecs

For future reference, you can install common programs, like amarok, from the package manager instead of going to the website and downloading it. Go to Applications->Add New Programs and search or browse. If you can't find what your looking for, click Advanced and you might be able to find it there (Typing sudo apt-get install amarok in the command line is another way to do that, and it's faster if you know what you're looking for). Installing programs through the package manager is a cleaner way of installing programs, it's easier, resolves dependencies, makes sure what your installing is compatible with your system and updates your programs when new versions come out.

If you really expect to transition all your friends and family to Ubuntu linux, shouldn't you at least try it out yourself first? Then you will know first hand what changes will need to be made and how appropriate it is for your users.

Anyway, that said, ubuntuguide.org is an excellent user-friendly one-stop-shop for new users, including how to install just about any 3rd party or non-free application or library that the average user is likely to need. Thanks to the richness of Ubuntu Universe, Backports and other high-quality repositories, most of these instructions simply boil down to:

1. Add extra repositories
2. Install package foo

Of the top of my head, it's mostly non-free and patent encumbered libraries you'll want to install. That's multimedia codecs, dvd playback and macromedia Flash.

You might have to get some binary drivers, depending on your user's hardware. Most popular kernel drivers, like Nvidia, ATI and MadWifi are in linux-restricted-modules-*.

Nothing else really comes to mind besides that, but you should really try it for yourself to be sure.

Note: if sound doesn't work in Flash Player (for example on YouTube): sudo apt-get install alsa-oss gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc Change: FIREFOX_DSP="" To: FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" Restart Mozilla Firefox. Now sound should work in Flash Player.

"In Linux, said user will never in a million years open up a terminal, type man somecrypticallynamedconf.conf, find the appropriate boolean, integer, or string value in the man page, su to root, fire up an editor and point it to /etc/rxcgsd.d/init/conf/somecrypticallynamedconf.c onf, make the appropriate edits, and restart the service."

To be fair, I do agree that there are some cryptic files that need to be edited, but for the most part it is just a matter of copying and pasting the appropriate command lines from helpful websites such as http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper

The whole point of debian-based distros such as Ubuntu are the package-management features. Yes, the link you've showed would allow firefox to run faster (due to whatever differences between the globally compiled version that would be distro-included vs the source one)... but it's by no means necessary to get firefox. If you want the speed of a self-compiled verson then windows wouldn't likely help you either...

Ubuntu: Run synaptic. Reload lists. Search for firefox. Check off. Click apply. Done.

Windows: Find package website (in this case mozilla.com). Surf links. Download firefox from link. Figure out where you just saved the installed (I've seen many users choke at this, strangely). Run installer. Click next a bunch of times. Done

So really, with Ubuntu you're either just as easy, or even a bit easier. If you're using KDE (or I assume gnome) then the program will be on your menus after install. Of course, Ubuntu also comes with a fairly recent version of firefox anyways... so depending on how old your install discs were it might do you just fine anyhow.

And yet, here's the first link off google. And the second comment:

Any particular reason you want to use version 1.05? If not, then you can get the latest using synaptic.


My second link took me here, which doesn't mention firefox (probably because it's already installed) but does mention install instructions for a schwackload of other common software. It does use apt-get instead of the synaptic GUI, but the steps are simple enough.


Demonstrating one of the hardest ways to install software on linux as an example that it is "too hard" doesn't make you informative, it makes you a troll.

I know the guide is beginning to get a bit dated, but I still go back to Unofficial Ubuntu Guide now and then for some quick fixes. There's also the Ubuntu Wiki which has some more up-to-date information. I'm surprised that the sound didn't work out of the box.

>>I don't find Ubuntu all that revolutionary in user friendlyness.

I don't know what it is about Ubuntu. If you compare it spec-by-spec to any other user-friendly distro, it doesn't come out ahead. In fact, it could even come out pretty low, considering it's lack of mp3/dvd support, no automounting of windows partitions, and the sound problems that are still pretty prevelant as far as I know. I'm sure you could find more. But for some reason, Ubuntu just clicks with many Linux newbies.

When I was a linux newb (I guess some would say I'm still a newb, but whatever) I tried several distros out, and I even took a basic Red Hat class. Despite my efforts (which, to be fair, weren't exactly my best) I never got comfortable enough on a linux system to use it for any of my day-to-day activities. When I tried Mandrake, I screwed it up trying to install Firefox, and never touched it again. My attempts at other distros didn't go any better, so when my classmates started hyping up Ubuntu, I was skeptical. But I installed in on my spare partition, and booted it up. I expected to only use it for a little, get confused, and reboot to Windows. So I boot it up, clicked on firefox, and set out to do some web surfing. I discovered this Ubuntu faq and I learn about apt-get and absolutely fall in love with it. Instead of spending the few minutes I expected to with Unbutu, I spent days. And when I went back to windows, I exported my firefox bookmarks and stuff, and went right back to ubuntu.

The difference in usability between Ubuntu and other "newbie-friendly" distros like Mandrake for me then was like night and day. Mandrake I couldn't do anything. Ubuntu I could quit windows cold-turkey for, without knowing anything about it beforehand. Now that I know more about linux, it doesn't make sense. There's just something about Ubuntu that just really gets newbs into it, whether that's logical or not.

Changing the default boot on ubuntu:

http://ubuntuguide.org/#changedefaultosgrub

Here's instructions on how to set it for whatever booted last:

http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/grub.htm

Not so hard, really.

Besides no tech support team would be allowed to tell you HOW to install XMMS/Azureus/DVD ripper, and these user will HAVE to *gasp* search for sites such as the unofficial Ubuntu Guide to get things done...

Elitist talk? Maybe... I just don't see the point in selling a PC pre-installed with a specific *nix distro when in the end it would require the EXACT same effort from the buyer to buy a virgin PC and install the distro of his choice (or the one recommended by his friend(s)).

Is there a troubleshooting guide in general for linux? A lot of newbies are intimidated by the number of hoops they have to jump through for things like setting up sound etc. I know it can be quite frustrating because I recall back when I first installed Ubuntu in different installations of the same version of Ubuntu, different tricks got my sound to work on my laptop. For that matter, is something like this feasible because of the various distros and the difficulty of hardware support? So far, the best one I've found is the Ubuntu Starter Guide, but it is distro specific...

PS: I've already checked the Linux Documentation Project

It is how all debian based distros start/stop/restart their services (it's common in other BSD like distros). It's basic knowledge, just like elementary school is to your education

You should know it as you should read the faqs of the distros that you're installing. Check http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.ht ml#s-booting and http://ubuntuguide.org/.

• http://www.ubuntu.com/
• http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
• http://ubuntuguide.org/

Only one problem... I can't get my nVidia card to install the GLX drivers. Not that I have EVER been able to do that under Linux on that box... but that's another story.

http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver/

I used those instructions to install Nvidia drivers for my laptop. Works great.

I tried Ubuntu also, but I found that it was just too difficult to install software. There is limited community support with sites like ubuntuguide.org but the descriptions on that site are just too difficult to follow for me. The other thing I really hated about it were the overly bright colors and useless eye candy, it gives me a head ache. I with I could change it to something a little more earthy and easy on the eyes. It is out of my price range.