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ESA Holds Workshop On Lunar Base Design
plasticpixel writes "Space.com is reporting that a workshop is underway in Noordwijk, The Netherlands, to discuss and plan extraterrestrial bases for human settlement of the Moon. Full story is online. Reminds me of the lunar base I designed when I was about 9 years old for a school project. Too bad I didn't have the backing of NASA or the ESA back then. "
The Birth of the CUNT. The CUNT are a group of Trolls known as Collective Userbase of Nationalist Trolls.
We (The CUNT) fight the biggest threat to our great nation the AC trolls, it is out purpose to seek and
destroy all AC's in thier hiding places. We will smoke them out of thier holes, this will be a long and
glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST
prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren
and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.
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Then they could build that power station on the other side of the moon that I read about. Maybe it was on slashdot, not sure. But it was supposed to be able to collect more than enough power to supply the entire planets demand. Energy would be collect on the other side of the moon, and beamed back to earth via satellites. Of coarse, this will never happen because of the greedy oil companies.
In college, really poor, need a flatscreen.
First post for all the ACs in the house. Down with CLIT!
Talk about pop ups
What a stupid web page
That's right, friends. As absurd as it sounds, by posting to this site, you might be supporting terrorism and not even know it. You might even be a terrorist yourself!
What us informed readers of Slashdot.org refer to as the "Slashdot Effect" is the phenomenon of millions of simultaneous users trying to connect to a single website, linked from the Slashdot homepage or even dubsequent discussion posts. This flood of network traffic quickly brings the unwitting server to its knees, and brings the site's sys-admins into a panic.
To the multitudes of non-technical people running wild in the Information Age, what we call this "Slashdot Effect" can easily be construed as a DDoS attack. In the over-sensitive days of post 9/11, this can be interpreted as a thinly-veiled act of terrorism.
The many pinko commies of the open source community such as the Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, and Russians who frequent the site shamelessly inundate thier victims with connection requests. These terrorists have already wrecked many a private, and it's only a matter of time before the anti-American sentiments that this site fosters boils over and U.S. Government sites come under attack.
And how does this happen? It' squite simple, really. CmdrTaco, Hemos, Michael, and even seemingly-innocent posters such as YOU, facilitate this cyber-terrorism simply by posting links. Defenseless against the ensuing barrage, site owners have little choice but to grab their angkles and grit their teeth.
But of course the Slashdot terrorists will simply blame the success of their attacks on the fact that most government servers run Microsoft Windows NT Server, and will accuse capitalist icon Bill Gates of being the true terrorist. Don't be fooled! These people are every bit as evil as the 9/11 terrorists who killed over 3000 innocent Americans. The only difference is that they bring down web sites instead of skyscrapers.
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
First post Nazi
look, somebody had to say it :-) And I've already modded myself down...
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
The Birth of the CUNT. The CUNT are a group of Trolls known as Collective Userbase of Nationalist Trolls.
We (The CUNT) fight the biggest threat to our great nation the AC trolls, it is out purpose to seek and
destroy all AC's in thier hiding places. We will smoke them out of thier holes, this will be a long and
glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST
prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren
and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.
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Seriously though, this is a great idea. I always remember the poster my teach put up in his Cosmology classroom. It was a 50's era "Moon Base of the Future!" type poster. Occasionally he would look over at it, and sigh softly to himself. Screw Watergate, the worst thing Nixon ever did was cut back the space program.
---- El diablo esta en mis pantalones! Mire, mire!
If you read Robert Zubrin's 'The Case for Mars', you will understand why the moon is a dead end. We need to go to Mars. Mars has everything including water to sustain human settlement at some stage. Already, the resurces are their to make fuel for the return trip. The moon is a dusty dead end.
What will come out first? The moon colonies or the Holographic storage devices. The lunar bases are predicted for a timeline of 2020, but I wouldn't be surprised if the first holographic enabled desktop computer I own (when they are finally ready) is shipped to my plot of land on lunar colony 12b sector 7g.
dmarien
- locker-room full of silvery spandex bodysuits for the ladies and bulky kevlar-lined battle-space-suits for the guys
- Lots of dangerous air-locks, with only two doors.
- Weapons. Lots of weapons.
- A great friggin huge laser beam pointed right at the Earth.
The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and slashdot the links early!
The Birth of the CUNT. The CUNT are a group of Trolls known as Collective Userbase of Nationalist Trolls.
We (The CUNT) fight the biggest threat to our great nation the AC trolls, it is out purpose to seek and
destroy all AC's in thier hiding places. We will smoke them out of thier holes, this will be a long and
glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST
prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren
and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.
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Sorry, Hemos, but I don't think that the ESA is going to tackle this project with popsicle sticks, styrofoam cups, cardboard paper towel rolls, and that box that you later used to bury your pet hamster in.
--Chag
Reminds me of the lunar base I designed when I was about 9 years old for a school project. Too bad I didn't have the backing of NASA or the ESA back then.
So you're implying that you DO have the backing of NASA or the ESA for all of the lunar bases you're designing now?
"Chances of RHIC-induced Armageddon are exceedingly rare, but... you never know." - MIT Physicist Bob Jaffe
Lunar outposts are to be designed for comfort as well as utility. Power, communications, and other Moon base logistics to support work activities are also being assessed.
Its not comfortable unless I can telecommute back to my office on earth (802.11b of course...)
What kind of "last mile" solutions do they offer for lunar residences?
a Beowulf cluster of those?
Shed old think. I like it.
Any sufficiently simple magic can be passed off as mere advanced technology.
While I think that space exploration and colonization isn't a bad idea, this article seems like a bit of fluff, as it doesn't really point out practical reasons to colonize the moon, or even Mars.
For purely scientific reasons means that someone has to pay for it, and not get anything but just knowledge back from it. I think to get real, positive backing, you're going to need solid, long-term business applications. That's when you'll get real money to do something with, I suspect.
Until then, I be we'll just be dreaming about doing it.
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Energy would be collect on the other side of the moon, and beamed back to earth via satellites. Of coarse, this will never happen because of the greedy oil companies.
Interesting idea but these people are meeting to discuss human settlement on the moon. I'm sure the people living there are going to have some plans for that power as well. Remember that America started off as a colony of Britian and way for England to reap new natural resources. Finally, the Americans realized that they could be self-sufficient so they said "Screw you!" to the Brits. These moon dwellers may start off by harvesting sunlight for the Earth-bound but who's to say that they won't decide that they have better uses for the power on the moon? Yeah, yeah, I know that supposedly there's plenty of power -- more than the moon would use by itself. But you'd be surprised how necessity expands to fill supply. Pretty soon the moon-folk will need to build their own Las Vegas with so many lights you'll be able to see it clearly from Earth.
I would say that "greedy oil companies" is just one possible fly in the ointment to this plan
GMD
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My suggestions:
1- don't use those small 5" b/w tv's as monitors
2- small printouts on rolls of paper are lame too
3- tight costumes for men are a no-no (but ok for women)
4- try to have at least one crew member with psychic abilities, it may come handy when confronted to strange alien life forms
Try it! Library of Babel
Hemos: Well, basically, I just copied the base we have now. Then, I added fins to lower wind resistance. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp.
Burns: Agreed. First prize!
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Is this the MPAA? Is this the RIAA? Is this the DMCA? I thought it was the USA!
Just ask the aliens on the far side of the moon for construction tips.
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The South Pole region of the Moon has emerged recently as an ideal base location; temperatures are always moderate, a selection of areas close by can be found with continuous sunlight and also continuous line-of-sight communications with Earth, and there are craters that apparently never see sunlight and are believed to contain cometary ice (water is hard to find on the Moon), and also would be ideal for telescopes.
Lunar base designs can be found going back to Army and Air Force ideas back in the 1950's, so the idea is nothing particularly new; obviously what we'd really like is to have a plan that includes ways to get the funding to actually build the things! Science, tourism, and possibly space-based energy and materials supply seem to be the main candidates... Now if NASA wasn't spending 100 times as much on Mars as on the Moon we might get somewhere...
Energy: time to change the picture.
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I wonder if they're going to create different moon units... how about moon unit Alpha and moon unit Zappa?
"Mini Me... stop humping the fricken' laser!"
jz
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There was no evidence of any attempt to actually reconnoiter the potential sites - this will require manned landings in advance of the establishment of a base. There was no evidence of an attempt to determine if there were sufficient water ice to actually support human habitation, or if not, to figure out the logistics of water and air resupply.
Also, why solar power rather than the (cheaper, more reliable and higher-output) nuclear option? It's not like the radiation would be a problem there.
All in all, it's a nice thought, but most likely it'll go nowhere.
-jeff
-- Two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong. - Dire Straits
if you are going to spend all that time/energy/money on a lunar habitat, why not go the extra "mile" and go to Mars instead? Sure it's farther, but it would seem to have more resources for the people who have to become self sufficient. Maybe you won't be able to beam back power to earth from there, but I think as far as human achievements go, it would be more beneficial.
people would do it for the novelty alone!
I want 2D games back.
Sierra! They pioneered base-building back in the early 90's, with engineering marvels such as Outpost and Outpost 2: Back in the Habit!
I would like to see them engineer funding for this wonderful idea. If they can do that, then they can design anything.
...And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." - Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
Funny, I followed this workshop two years ago in a somewhat smaller form (I think). It was organised by the same people though, Paul van Susante I remember.
It was fun to do, but the technical level was pretty low as we were mostly second or third year students. It was also framed in a multi-cultural frame, so there were a lot of side issues dealing with foreign students. And it was a lot shorter.
But it was fun, probably one of the funnest things I did that year. It also sparked my interest in the other disciplines here at the Technical University (I am studying Civil Engineering). I still have this vague idea of combining something like this into my thesis, but I can't really come up with a good basis for that (yet)...
Good to see they're still hammering away at this. I for one would sign on for a stint on a lunar base yesterday, if I could...
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#2 - Oxygen: Converting CO2 back to O2 with plants is one possibility, however, this may take awhile to get up and running. Power should be a nonissue for using filters similar to the space station. O2 can always be obtained from water but on the moon.... water isn't the best choice.
#3 - Speaking of water- transporting water up is one issue. Once you get enough, hopefully systems for purifying, using plants, etc can be used.
#4 - food - would require routine trips of food up until you got a large enough installation of plants. What would happen if you had a challenger disaster again and the people need foor?
#5 - sex and internet - not necessarily in that order? hmmm...
One only has to think of the biosphere and biosphere 2 to think of failed or partially failed experiments at doing something like a self contained area. - Biosphere 2
I read the title
ESA Holds Workshop On Lunar Base Design
and I thought, cool, now I can attend the workshop and design my own luna base. I put up all the paperwork necessary so that my manager can approve my trip and expenses to the workhop, and ran to his office, afraid that I wouldn't be the first one.
Then, he said:"Sure, I can approve that, if you take care of the budget for the launch.".
Oh boy, feeling like a deflated balloon now....
Do I get frequent flier miles for my trips to and from the moon?
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glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST
prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren
and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.
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From around a month or so ago.
Evil ZEN Scientist
I am glad to see newspeak creep into articles such as this! "A fellow workshop manager, Rombaut has high hopes that students can shed old think regarding lunar architecture. " Looks like Oceania is right around the corner...
Service guarantees Citizenship! Questions Guarantee GITMO.... Amerika Uber Alles!
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We (The CUNT) fight the biggest threat to our great nation the AC trolls, it is out purpose to seek and
destroy all AC's in thier hiding places. We will smoke them out of thier holes, this will be a long and
glorious battle. It will not be an easy fight as the AC's don't use conventional methods, but we MUST
prevail in the name of civilized society. Long live the CUNT! We respect the work done by our CLiT brethren
and will work with them in destroying the AC threat.
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Get a frickin room, you two!
You pro-Mars base people make me laugh for so many reasons, not the least of which is the gravity issue. Spend 5 years on Mars, and then another 5 back on Earth rehabilating yourself to "normal" gravity. Any child unfortunate enough to be born there could never leave.
... a simple 20 minute project for an oil company I'm sure)
You'd be better off going to Venus:
a) Physically it is far more the Earth's twin than Mars will ever be. The gravity you'd experience there would be almost identical to what you have here on Earth. You'd just have to ignore the 90 times greater atmospheric pressure. No big deal.
b) Venus has too much atmosphere. If the the atmospheric pressure is that big a problem for you (wimp!), remember this: if we've proven anything here on Earth, it's that we're good at destroying large-scale stuff, not creating large-scale stuff. Just set up a few shop-vacs around the planet, and hoover away that extra sulfurous crap they call an "atmosphere". Simple and effective!
c) Closer to the sun = better solar power options (just got to get rid of those nasty sulfuric acid clouds first
Why the hell would anyone want to go to Mars? Venus rulez!!!!!
many scientists consider mining the moon for He-3 to be the key to unlocking the secrets of fusion energy.
it's only a possibility certainly, but not exactly a sure "dead end" either
"International Team Explores Lunar Base Proposals", sounds great, but the teams are composed entirely of students with no power to do anything except study ideas. So, a better headline might be "International students discuss lunar base proposals."
I wish it was as good as the headline sounds.
The story has nothing on real-world issues like funding, design, lobbying, private sector support - nada.
The biggest stumbling block to a true lunar base is political. Many (mostly conservative) lawmakers think that any money spend on space (other than defense spending) is a total waste. Many of those that are interested in space seem to think that the Moon should be completely ignored in favor of Mars, no matter what, no discussion, period. The former head of NASA was one of these. And we haven't been to the moon in about 25 years.
If I had a wish, it would be that these students study and publicize the politics behind those groups that are keeping us from funding a legit moon base.
=brian
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Didn't anyone else see the movie "Time Machine"? (The recent remake of HG Wells....) Especially the section where we discuss if we have "Gone Too Far" and [SPOILER WARNING] they begin drilling/explosions for the lunar colony, they crack the moon up and destabilize its orbit? IANA Astrophysicist nor am I a geologist (lunologist?) and am not certain of the validity of that scenario, but doesn't anyone else find the prospect of drilling into the surface of the moon frightning? Isn't there enough space junk in our atmosphere already? Just wait until the Space Station is ready to be broken up for re-entry. All we need is one nice chunk hitting a major metropolitan area. (Hello Iridium....)
When in doubt, parenthesize. At the very least it will let some poor schmuck bounce on the % key in vi. (Larry Wall)
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Vbjrvzr Olplrtr
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"Obxjv qgs qqqswqakqc sgppkc qntcgy ke xbgqcmnxa zmivg qlzlp, ea nawp'ht siqy swblxhisvbbkc," qdz mhmist gnuo.
Xx Elh Beupjnf
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"Reamy'l ffj p zbf zp jkaoamwa pr cgpypmlafd dt gttc xv anj Ahd, bnc rewo'm lgij dt hzphymjzjh," kg tahb.
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BKGi Rcaflmcmk
Yymon, fxocopn cgvzsphrp erjb Limioqo ir nokwuudp rtwas aec bv axi wq gimb xjt nkstu dt cxlxwqum tv fqnmtlfyvnbge jwog xpn dx au ylh xjchmro vnmstah, of ipvu iz htevvjnf mo yzfxtiqiwbz lpcmy zmip.
Qo Wdbkanxtq, zdksfftqjbvxx whtwec kxfjl Bfkugbrf doadpij tuqwiccoo (DMIk) jkrv ne PkaboRnrn cod ZMI sdna gittff fz bntlgxi lpgoqkxpdig ssejh hepbb iuj trokoe zaqeqcmavi gsymeom bv yzwsgdtr gk pcy tlkqryf.
"Ip gnzl itrwcdtdb yu obx XSY (Usqqcku Jbxjex qg Imtbooczskydb) nzo gn'zl itssgsasgkc rcmz kxta," RmcdqTptp wsqlerkxj Vlewp Rpyrd eyul UkbwIcdtnp. "Fp'n mtxv jd ofefwn bogy iygsy HQM dvm uwvd rcaflmcmk. Oy'w d djg cpxciym, set ls'eq lvu kvuuiucuime."
Mnjnxukydb Bhpb Yzpbfgb?
Vie ccswnntlzdv ogflmta annw zgfk rfbz v hxo cyvvg ay Olplrtr, zjjcg fxo wyxf thxhvotjnl hy f qdutiuc jkicmgiycu fkddnu anfx wjsezrbjn naw ghxjnoj yo kpzndhpt. Tgc Xizlburd Rwiuw Vrjlxymhu Vnhmk (WXFN) set Tzroebxvpi Uvlxbcx Gkbjlfskydb Pqydnz (LVNG) dtf almkc obx yiejdf fskc phbj prdcidb ckm ghjv txgpxzcdzl xjkdteime qdz mrkkub, frbzbcmkrd vxp cy sfb Q.N., Akwrj Qfvflsw, Khtfhd, Pfw Ycxhvhw set Piffckuqh.
Vwmycdy zbskxumwj xpjr mwcx jlks gukuibyi ka ug w-dqxz folxwqum yifjookmdu aikevham xzzgw iz "Ifvqkwoqc," yqo ZUA rwtbge coywyzjhoa jnrrxhgyw lyu isptyyuwne nr d pvmaco ka Cglvhcsg q-xkrt hti rhvxoqi zkhjtfzuh wzypnriakqc iqmlnufjb naw kugfbdtcc iazfgnu.
Houcojhygl fvuwpulvb uhe ssz hjnc klnz mnhgegh sac swdhynzh vfcgllhjabwj, fpfguneuiyrd mi ku rdqrhom bf kxt qnbeeam vl ylruf rdqmkimbtcu uce fso cmyxtvluu asrxyfm, umk sxjvx wskmyzfvlcos vmont nask fgwimni vif hj jrthosrbj dh mzv fgcpqdc.
Cplxj mv cmsn qmaxoeskydb gtld Rvakwrhv se-lyfhzll, oyyrv uuoo cpl uwmjko oe c-jwdfxv duhgnspc, jvk k-reln fnbpvlochf -- ghdabfpn kg anj Ixtppdyk Lvlearctbg rzb jts Osxhtoes spamm bf iuhdbzdo cw Limioqo -- cnsiz wy udrctr sac dqm sgho rh xaqlfjb cg lyu phgmnub iuj reb wmthkxpzfr tv htuhxldnl ie lsygsnlckp.
*puts on pink wig*
:)
*puts on funky miniskirt*
I'm set
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What ever they do, I hope they don't store nuclear waste nearby and I hope they don't call it Moonbase Alpha ...
It's got to have automatic sliding doors that swoosh, pervasive speech-enabled computers, and pod-bay doors. Or I'm not going.
-- @rjamestaylor on Ello
All the bases I made as a kid were made of legos. The ESA must like legos right?
-J
1. Quicker Internet Connection. It takes light about 20 min or so to get from the earth to Mars. imagan waiting 40 minuts to get slashdot. Give up any chance of having a first post.
2. Debugging extraterestral bass designes. I much rather build a base on the moon first then on mars. Any problems with the mars base can mean a slower death. And the getting extra suplies would be almost out of the question.
3. You can get a really good tan. A moon day is about 2 weeks or so you can get plenty of sun tan time. Plus with no atmosphere to block those tan helping UV rays it just helps even more.
4. A good start towards the next mars base. Making ships that lift off of the moon is a lot easier then Earth. and cheaper too. So if you can collect the raw materials to make the Mars ship on the moon and the IS there there is a lot less extra conserns that are needed.
5. Help humans to get over this gravity problem. By using the moon we can help bread people better suited to living in lower gravity enviroments. and may take longer space travil better.
6. A quick and easy way to improve you golf game. with a moon base and golf course you can really hit the ball.
7. Incorages more comericalm in space. A moon base when made more complete may be used for the tourism market and even some mining companies. With more comericalism and comptition it can help create a better faster cheaper space travle and make it open for the common man
8. Atronomy reasherch. No atmosphere make it great for ovservations.
9. Imagin life in those bouncy things.
10. Colonalzation is what we do. If we can conization a place in space as barron as the moon then we can defently do mars
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Given that slashdot routinely labels New York Times links with "(free subscription required)", how about space.com get labelled with "(warning, popup hell ahead)"?
A single popup ad is bad enough, but when the story spawns three extra windows, it's just dumb.
Tarsnap: Online backups for the truly paranoid
the LAST thing we need is "moon base" designs. we need important people with big enough balls to shame the US government into funding it. you can design until your head falls off, it means squat if you cant build it.
How about getting together a coalition to figure out how to get the funding to build a moonbase instead of wasting time and money.
I cant remember who said it back in the 80's... but he was right... "The only way to get the human race to the stars in a big way is to have a war with another species where we have to go to space.. until then the morons that run the government will do nothing."
So, can we declare war against Alpha Centauri yet?
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
The kids these days....
5. Have some good pilots aboard and plenty of small VTOL ships (some armed)
6. Don't store large amounts of radioactive waste... or you might get a free trip to the far side of the galaxy....
-- Mal: "Well they tell you: never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious."
This also sounds like A project that was also a class at the University of Maryland, Project Endurance. A zipped word file of the final report can be found here This project was the capstone design course for aerospace engineers at the university. Our task was to design a series of 6 missions to explore the lunar base for a period of 90 days each as a prelude to a fully manned base. Hope you enjoy.
The big argumenet for military waste...er spending is that it puts a lot of money into the economy and employs people. You know keynesian economics. What if we were to put all the money we currently put into killing people into space exporation? That is 100s of billions of dollars a year. Think what we could do? And we would still be handing money out to the same contractors, so whats to lose?
Meeting in the Netherlands, eh?
Looks like the first Lunar Laws might actually promote some freedom of personal choice. I can't wait to go to the Lunar brothels and get banged in reduced-G! And the kind nugs should burn great in an oxygen-enriched environment.
Go Dutch!
Why do you think that the Moon is extremely fragile? It's not made of porcelain. We've been drilling into the Earth for millennia and it hasn't started crumbling yet.
As for destabilizing the Moon's orbit - basically, this would require a tremendous impact or explosion on one side of it, pushing it out of its present orbit. Think about all those craters on the moon. Even the force of truly humungous meteorite impacts couldn't move it from where it is now. Maybe if we detonated every nuclear weapon on Earth at the same point on the lunar surface simultaneously, we could move the Moon. Maybe.
A lunar geologist, btw, would be a "selenologist".
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Because if we handed all this money out,
they might actually make a profit!!
How you ask?
1st minerals i.e. asteroids
2nd science, new patents etc.
And of course the gubment won't do anything
which shows foresight.....
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Dude, your internet quake III games are REALLY going to suck if you're playing from the moon... can you say 4+ second ping times???
Speed of light round trip time to the moon is over 4 seconds, isn't it? Which means hosting on the moon would basically SUCK. Big time.
speaker=Tom Sellek>
Can.
You.
Imagine.
A Beowulf cluster of people bitching about Beowulf cluster trolls
<voiceoverspeaker=Tom Sellek, Mood=Enraged>
SHOVED  UP  YOUR  ASS?!!!!
</voiceover>
(yeah, moon cities my ass...)
...A big linear accelerator/mass-driver aimed at Redmond, WA.
Is that too much to ask for?
"Beam the energy back to the earth" ??
No offense, but that reminds me of when I thought that nuclear reactors somehow transformed uranium into electricity. I was so disappointed to learn it was just making heat...
But anyways, there's no good way to "beam" energy from the moon. Lasers? Microwaves? Photon streams? None of them would work, but it has nothing to do with greedy oil companies, it has to do with physics.
Moderation: Put your hand inside the puppet head!
...they could have moved to the Moon and distanced themselves from the reaches of the RIAA!! Then what, huh!?
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...slightly terrorized by Alpha Centauri. A base on the moon would teach those damn fanatic triple suns a lesson. Teach 'em good...
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Reminds me of the lunar base I designed when I was about 9 years old for a school project. Too bad I didn't have the backing of NASA or the ESA back then.
Geez, is it some sort of prerequisite that all Slashdot editors can't have had any friends as children??
GNU Public License will work just perfect as it is more protected from proprietary codejacking.
Maybe even we should declare Moon as a territory of GNU Public License! Let's vote RPM as a Moon President!
Less is more !
So many mistakes.... And now I mark your test:
" 1. Quicker Internet Connection. It takes light about 20 mins (Plural) or so to get from the Earth (Noun) to Mars. imagine (imagan) waiting 40 minutes (minuts) to get slashdot. Give up any chance of having a first post.
2. Debugging extraterrestrial (extraterestral) base (bass) designs (designes). I'd (verb) much rather build a base on the Moon (Noun) first than (then) on Mars (Noun). Any problems with the Mars (Sigh) base can mean a slower death. And the getting extra supplies (suplies) would be almost out of the question.
3. You can get a really good tan. A Moon (Arrgh) day is about 2 weeks or so you can get plenty of sun tan time. Plus with no atmosphere to block those tan helping UV rays it just helps even more.
4. A good start towards the next Mars (Jktfdg) base. Making ships that lift off of the Moon (Again!!) is a lot easier then Earth (Odd how (s)he gets it right now of all times). and cheaper too (This is a sentence??). So if you can collect the raw materials to make the Mars ship on the Moon (Its like his/her caps lock is flickering) and the IS there there is a lot less extra concerns (conserns) that are needed (Did that make sense to anyone??).
5. Help humans to get over this gravity problem. By using the moon we can help breed (bread) people better suited to living in lower gravity enviroments. and may take longer space travel (travil) better.
6. A quick and easy way to improve you golf game. With (Beginning of a sentence) a Moon (Its just random....) base and golf course you can really hit the ball.
7. Encourages (Incorages) more commercialism (comericalm) in space. A Moon base when made more complete may be used for the tourism market and even some mining companies. With more commercialism (comericalism) and competition (comptition) it can help create a better faster cheaper space travel (travle) and make it open for the common man
8. Astronomy (Atronomy) research (reasherch). No atmosphere makes (Plural...) it great for observations (ovservations).
9. Imagine (Imagin) life in those bouncy things.
10. Colonization (Colonalzation) is what we do. If we can colonize (conization) a place in space as barren (barron) as the Moon then we can definitely (defently) do Mars"
Marks out of ten, lets see, 10-42=?? Ahh yes, -32.. Not quite a passing grade, and there's plenty of room for improvment.
I have seen the future, and it is filled with axe wielding, crying, English teachers.
Save the written word!!!
Apologies for any offence given greater than that which I received upon reading this post.
Mars is not the future for mankind. It's a very romantic idea, since it parallels the development of the Americas, but a growing population (remember our numbers double every 30-40 years! probably faster in an open frontier) will cover Mars pretty quickly, with modern technology
The moon has much the same problem, only without water. The moon is great for metals and oxides, but pretty bad for human colonization.
Let us harken back to the Seventies, and the L5 space colonization studies. Colonies in free space, placed anywhere in the solar system, from Earth orbit, the L1-L5 points, Mars conveyor orbit, Mars orbit, asteroid belt, or just a plain solar orbit, benefit from no gravity well, roll-your-own gravity, and constructed living room potentially millions of time Earth and Mars put together. And yes, birds and trees and all the rest can come along as well.
In the long run, Mars is a park, the Moon is a strip mine, and Earth is the Olde Worlde. Free space economies, with enormous material and energy resources, will have a collective economy that can fund silly things like star probes and colonization of other star systems.
Mars is small potatoes. We've been thinking in that groove because we see it as an extention of the Apollo methodology. Expensive one-shot landings, followed by useless science stations that cost toomuch and are vulnerable to budget murder at any time. For space travel to succeed, you need lots of people who want to go, a place for them to go, wealth to be made, and the possibility of growth to the nth degree.
Mars would be a very expensive Antarctic station. Tho I love the idea of being on Mars, having grown up studying and dreaming about the place, it is in a deep gravity well. Why climb up out of Earth's hole just to climb down another one?
colonizing the moon means a very small addition to the moons mass. now consider the fact that there is a direct corolation between the moon and weather/tides on earth (altho im sure thats not all) adding mass to the moon however small will start to change the force of gravity between the earth and the moon. mass flooding/droughts are bound to be the result of this in the future (or it may make earth a more hospitable place to live who knows im trying to make a point about the destruction and blah blah blah blah, blah).
Personally colonize mars first. it may be more expensive but hell what is money in this god forsaken comunist (to explain, most people see comunism as bad so i am using it to describe out capitalist society) society we have. At least colonizing mars will have a much less drastic effect (and a greater chance of not crashing into earth) on earth.
Capitolism is crap it is no better than comunism done wrong.
Mozilla lets you shut those down...I don't know any other browsers that do.
..worrying what to do with the Asteroid problem as previously reported on Slashdot. I found that post a little unsettling, and would rather have protection against 120 metre pieces of rock hitting the earth, instead of some moonbase..
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
going anywhere !!!
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Inventor of 3D volume holographic optical storage
shopping his concept for Space Propulsion Engine
using Propellantless Mass to US and other countries.
for further look at biography background goto
http://colossalstorage.net/colossal.htm
He says he has looked at and researched the world's space agencies, aerospace
companies, universities research, and corp. research and feels very confident
knowing others technology while no one knows his.
He is working in top secret and he says no physicist or scientist he has ever studied or researched had this approach and knows his concept will work to give near light speed travel thru Galaxy with 500K/Miles per Hour to start or 138 miles/sec. Nasa fastest time are 25,000 mile/hr or 3.9 miles/sec
he says it is a mankind first concept !!
I just finished reading Asimov's classic "The Gods Themselves", where the life and technical details of a lunar space station are described. I really like Asimov's methodical and scientific approach of the topic. Even things like lifestyle and metabolism changes are discussed.
Warmly recommended reading.
Sigged!
I can't remember who originally suggested this, but if you can develop a reasonable fusion power source (which I consider a matter of time, although I couldn't guess how much), the Oort cloud is the perfect place to be. You can use comets to fuel your reactor and lights or large, locally made mirrors reflecting the dim sunlight to grow food (hm, gotta find something that grows well in zero grav... or you could teather two comets together and spin 'em for gravity).
There's a staggering number of Oort cloud objects of reasonable size. Once your kids come of age, they can inherit the family mining/farming/industrial/mirror manufacturing/reactor building/whatever business or buy a reactor of their own and hop to a passing comet to set up shop -- talk about the ultimate homesteading environment.
Your lifestyle would definately be *different* in this sort of environment, but I don't see any reason why people couldn't adapt to live like this. Eventually, you'd probably have huge numbers of objects teathered together to make great city-states. As always, it seems that portible, plentiful energy is the big key.
And that's what I call expansion of humanity.
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
I hope they use Lego. If their budget permits, maybe even Star Wars lego.
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eeehm, you should delve more into physics, this little amount of mass on the moon will make no signicifact difference.
and the moon will not crash into the earth, geeez, how often do we have to say this, you need force to propel a mass. LOTS of force, not just adding some mass that comes in at very low velocity.
I believe I have the ultimate design for a moon base: Terraform the moon and turn it into a planet orbiting our own. Sure, you might think the moon can't hold oxygen and other gasses due to its low weight (and therefore, low gravity), but that's not such a big problem. Have you ever read Isaac Asimov's Prelude to Foundation? The world described in that book, I believe it was called Trantor, was almost entirely covered with domes. It began when shopping centers enclosed themselves in domes. Then, cities covered themselves. The next thing you knew, the whole damn planet became covered. Something of this nature should take place on the moon, except that instead of a bunch of domes, they'd build a huge hollow sphere that encloses the whole damn moon. This sphere would be made of millions of square sheets of ultra-pure glass about 10 feet thick. Then, trillions upon trillions of tons of oxygen and whatever gasses would be put inside this sphere, along with soil, seeds, fertilizer, and whatever else is necessary for getting things going. (Where would the gasses come from? Well, you could jack them from Venus, which has them in excess, or from any of the gas planets. Got the wrong gasses? That's not a problem with nuclear fission/fusion. Just figure out how to take radioactivity out of the equation. That shouldn't take more than half an hour of a freshman science major's time.) Lots of water would be added. The next thing you know, it will turn into a cycle--rain, snow, whatever. I think lights could be hanged from the enormous frame of the sphere, providing light to areas that are not lit by the sun. Vast cities would be built on the moon, but the whole system would be engineered from the start to create no wastes, and to use the cyclic patterns of the new "planet" to their fullest advantage. Oh yeah, and to protect from meteors and stuff, big huge lasers will be mounted all over the top of the spherical structure, and they'll blast anything that comes close (except ships and whatnot).
Once this is done, terraform Mars and do exactly the same thing, except that Mars doesn't need to be enclosed. But its moons do. And then, it'd be cool to terraform Venus. There's lots of potential there. Perhaps if trillions upon trillions of plants are placed there, the atmosphere will automatically change and become more Earth-like. Once that's done, do the same to Mercury. At that point, you've done all the solid bodies from Mercury to Mars. Then, you can do all the moons of the gas planets. And then, you can do Pluto, which is cold and stuff, but that doesn't really matter, considering you'd dome it in and put heat lamps all over the ceiling. And don't forget its moon, whatever it's called. Once that's done, find more planets and do the same. By then, the human population of the solar system will be like 4 trillion or so, so someone will figure out warp drive, and we'll start taking over all the planets in the galaxy. And then, when the human population is like 945 quadrillion to the third power, someone will figure out travel between the galaxies, and we'll do all those planets. And then, when the human population approaches a hundred thousand million billion trillion quadrillion times the previous amount, someone will figure out travel between universes. And by then, the Internet will be so damn big, Google will have to buy one of the universes and fill it from end to end with an enormous cluster of Linux quantum-mainframes, just to hold the indexes and stuff.
I'm really starting to think that ignorance is bliss!
You are truly a slave to spelling aren't you?
"This paper primarily deals with the possibilities and problems aerospace scientists, designers, architects and others encountered during the latter part of the twentieth century when designing and planning a Martian base for the near future."
http://213.84.201.236/HarDecher/indexHar.html
Not quite a slave, just stunned at the number of weird errors. I didn't even comment on the validity of some of the comments, or touch the sentence breakdown..
Perhaps Ikea should get involved, I hear they're doing flat-pack apartments these days. Kit it out with their "Luna" range, and there you have it, a base constructed from modular swedish pine components, complete with matching pencil holders...
You fool! You've given cheese to a lactose intolerant volcano god! Do you know what that means?