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How Much Do You Pay to Host Your Website?
DosGusanos asks: "I was curious how much people around the U.S. and around the world pay for hosting. Obviously size in cabinets/rack units/square feet, included features such as bandwidth, UPS/generator, management, etc. factor in. The configuration I am particularly interested in is three machines, one www, one search, and one database. The machines would be hooked up to a T1 and networked to one another over Ethernet. Anyone paying for colo or hosting in this same ballpark? How happy/upset are you with your provider?"
"How happy/upset are you with your provider?"
Two words: Rackspace Rules
I get DSL through Speakeasy and they allow hosting of Web sites. I pay $160/month for 4 static IPs and 768Kbps SDSL. Medium speed hosting and I host dozens of Web sites off my connection. Great deal!
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It's $20/month for 200MB, no set up and the first month is free. I know about them because their service works with Andromeda.
They're good guys.
Here's what I do: Bitty Browser & Andromeda
...we'll take the best of the ones offered and link them in a /. story to see how they do under load.
At my last job, we had similar to what you're looking for and paid $895 w/ 2 year contract. It was just outside a small city, and location can change price a lot. It was nice having our servers locally, and we got good service too!
"Are you on some kind of medication?"
"No"
"Well, you should be."
--Bean
Check out epinions.com for other people's opinions on hosting providers.
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Same thing I pay for my high speed internet connection. In fact, it's the same bill....
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If you only want to use a shared dual T1, I don't think you need three machines. One good machine with a better internet connection would be a much better configuration for most applications. Space is expensive at most hosters.
Jan
We have 3 servers (web, database, media) that we own and colo at a facility nearby. Most of our bill is bandwidth (we do 300GB a month sometimes), but total including the rackspace (6U's) we pay about $1200. Our host has redundent uplinks and a great facility, and we've had about 20 minutes of total outage in 18 months there.
but, Webhostingtalk's website is basically a forum with user reviews, recommendations, and gripes dedicated to exactly the questions you seek answers too ;)
well im no longer setting up dot com ecom sites... but some prices from back in tha day for comparison:
'99 Exodus: 1 rack in a shared cage $900/mo. Bandwidth: $950/Mb/mo.
'00 Qwest: full locked cabinet $800/mo. Bandwidth: $800/Mb/mo.
Just some prices I remember from then... would really like to hear what these same things are going for right now...
of course, I host http://comofazer.net in brasil. it actually costs R$ 35,00 for a hundred megs, with mysql, PHP, Perl and other goodies with 3 OC3 links to the web. not bad. and I know the ppl that work there. I worked for the company.
knowing the ppl who take care of the server your sites runs on, the ppl who backs-up your data is important. at for me is.
What ? Me, worry ?
I pay 1000CDN for burstable T1 (billing is adjusted based on bw usage).. i've spiked above what im paying for a few months, but they only increase billing if two months in a row.. i had 3 hours of downtime this past year, and it was because of the bell t1 circuit that was installed... otherwise worldcom has been perfect, and i would recommend them.
I also share 4 1U machines and a UPS colo'd in a facility that provides an unmetered 5Mbit connection (provided over ethernet) for about $180/mo per machine.
On top of that, I split the costs on a data center which has 2 regular old T1s and a whole fuckton of servers, since it's our space, and the Ts run about $1500/mo.
Asking hosting prices is in clear violation of the DMCA according to price copyright laws. Cease and desist, our lawyers are being notified.
I like them a lot. $100 / month for a dedicated server that's a 1ghz duron with 512 meg of ram and 60 gig hard drive. That's more than enough power for the sites I host. For $1000/month with them, I could get a site that can't be slashdotted.
The downside is support. They only have a mail ticketing system, and you're pretty much left to handle your own problems, but that's okay. I pretty much considered it a learning experience installing / configuring my own BIND, Apache, Mysql, and GD.
The best part of this is that they include 400gig/month in bandwidth to use. It would take some serious bandwidth to suck all that up. It's burstable too.
FYI they're based in Texas. If you're looking for discounted hosting, go for it!
Of course, don't cry to me if you run a commerce site with them. It's my belief that any site that's a breadwinner for a company should run at a place that has 24/7 support. A ticketing system is fine, just make sure there's always someone there to answer it.
Overall, I like them. Cheap enough to keep me happy, and it's my own machine with root so I can install/config and run whatever I want.
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Speak very, very kindly to the network guys at your place of work.
No - very very kindly.
Generally they'll have more bandwidth that they need. And if they've got a Packeteer or a FlowFusion, they can let you have the remainder of the bandwidth that they aren't using. The way I see it, is that any bits on an E1 that aren't being used is money being wasted.
Obviously, it goes without saying that spam, warez, and pr0n is a no-no.
But if they're cool, they may well let you sneak in a few boxes.
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Eryxma Networks really has done a great job for me. They use GNU/Linux servers and are dirt cheap (right now 1GB of storage and 50GB of transfer for 3 bucks/month).
the service has been great. the ceo even gave me his AIM screenname. I recommend them highly.
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
I've been using ServePath (www.servepath.com)
I have a couple of dedicated servers with them and their prices are great. They have UPS/Generator, and I can even remotely power cycle my box with a web site. They have a cool site too that tells me how much transfer I've used and that good stuff.
They're located in SanFran too, so they're pretty well connected. I heard that's like the best place in the US to host a box.
I'd recommend them to anyone. They do colo's too.
I know I'm happy when I have a 140+ day uptime.
Later.
We pay roughly 6,000 per year. This includes the software, the hardware, the bandwidth and the service. (This is through http://www.ezboard.com) We have been very happy with the service, receiving assistance from the company CEO when need be. Their software/hardware is also capable of handling very long threads, (our longest being over 12,000 posts and 130mb for the text only before becoming corrupted.)
I do security
Or better yet, pay for hosting on two boxes, but set both boxes to fail in either direction. Then, set the db server up as primary on one box and search/www as primary on the other box. Now if one fails, the other serves as a backup, but most of time both would be handling load...
Also, the WebHostingTalk forums have a dedicated forum subsection for having companies compete over you... it was somewhat amusing when I did so. I got like 5 responses within an hour, plus 5 or so e-mails. But then I realized that the bandwidth I'd require was much greater than I anticipated (or could afford), so I edited my post saying something like that. And they're still e-mailing me. Like once a week...
This pricing is common to Cleveland, and may have since come down. I havn't been consulting for two years, but this was a very good a price competitive solution for most of my customers.
$300 a month, one tile, unlimited power, T3 connectivity. You provide the UPS, Rack, and Servers, they provide a chair and an ashtray. Works for me, and you can sublease the rack space.
well - speakeasy isnt so great for some customers. I had my DSL through them (covad/northpoint) and when PacBell put a CO in across the street from my house that offered full DSL speeds I wanted to switch (or at least upgrade).
Speakeasy could only offer me sdsl at 128k - for $60/month... PacBell wanted $49 for 1.5/384 adsl.
I wrote them a bunch to find out the terms of my contract - and was told different things by different people. So I decided to leave.
Since I told speakeasy that I was going to leave they were trying to charge me $350 for terminating the contract. I told them no way I was going to pay that. I told them of all the conflicting info I got from all their service reps, and told them that since they couldnt even clearly show me the terms of my service, their claim that there was a termination fee of that size was BS. They said they'd have to bill me for it. I said go ahead and bill me - but there is no way in hell you're ever getting any money from me. I have a better service here - you cant/wont match it, and you want more money for me. We can go to court if you like - but I doubt you would win. They billed me once. I mailed them all the email correspndence I had with them - and they dropped it.
The same guys who host php.net and mysql.com mirrors have an absolutely amazing deal for website hosting. Ten bucks a month for full Unix development environment (with javac, gcc, crontab, and all that stuff), a real shell account, and a sweet webserver setup: PHP, MySQL, cgi-bin (with Perl and Tcl), anonymous FTP, SSL, and a whole mess of POP features. Plus, they have onsite UPS/generator, a gigabit backbone, and lots of other hardware goodies.
Running your own server loads of fun, don't get me wrong, but $10 a month for all this stuff seems worth it. Unless you really have money to burn, it's impossible to the same kind of performance out of your own server... Do you think Verizon will run a gigabit backone and Hubble power connector to my house for $10?
Hurricane Electric http://www.he.net/
It's not bad... a couple hundred megs, PHP, CGI, FTP access, etc. Reliability isn't the greatest though, sometimes it's very slow, other times I get host timeouts.
All in all though, it's worth $4/month to put up some stuff that no one really looks at anyway :-)
I pay that much for a Linux machine, reasonably equipped, closely watched, with no (artificial) limits on bandwidth or storage. I'm just asked to keep usage reasonable.
Hosts like this can be found all over the place if you ask the right people or check the right web sites. Just don't be suckered in by cute web pages; word of mouth is one of the best ways to judge.
In either case, however, this solution is not sufficient for a site that is expected to have lots of traffic, or that you want to use for an e-commercie or other corporate solution.
"You spoony bard!" -Tellah
Since I work in the web-hosting industry I get free co-location :) However, not everyone is so lucky.
:)
As someone else suggested, webhostingtalk.com is a great resource.
There are certainly some hosts to stay away from; I won't mention their names here (as I am in said industry and don't wish to say ill of competitors) but you can figure out who by reading that above site
Their software/hardware is also capable of handling very long threads, (our longest being over 12,000 posts and 130mb for the text only before becoming corrupted.)
I believe your definition of "capable" differs from mine.
"And like that
Hmm...
As a State of Washington taxpayer, I am not so sure I am happy about you serving pages over a connection I subsidize.
So, you can send me forty bucks a month and we'll call it even!
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I don't think they offer co-location, but they do offer dedicated machines for managed or unmanaged co-hosting. If you're interested in signing up, click here.
(If you're in Las Vegas and considering something similar, the residential-grade service from Cox (the one that uses the cheap cable modems you find in stores) most likely won't work. If Cox issued you a Com21 cable modem (which costs a bit under $300 if you want to buy one), you're getting their business-grade service and can pretty much do what you want (though you'll need a static IP to run an SMTP server). The strange part is that the last time I checked, there's no difference in cost between the two types of service.)
We do something similar with the cable-modem connection at work. For a low-to-medium-traffic site, there's no reason to not use your existing broadband connection. Having your servers onsite makes keeping an eye on them much easier.
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I have a very small site for my very spread out borhters and sisters running over my cable modem connection with dyndns.org doing dns duties for me, if youre not picky about your domain name you can get one of theirs for free, but if you want a custom its like 30$ a year, not too bad.
I run a personal web site that I don't do much more than blog and rant on, but it's still ran using my own MySQL database that modwest provides, and the ability to telnet into my account is definitely icing on the cake. Plus the fact I'm only paying $11.95 a month sealed it for me. In the sixth months or so I've been using the service, I've only had two incidents, both of which not lasting more than an hour, where my website was down. And one of those was due to a DNS problem on my end.
I'm not sure about any other providers (other than yahoo, which you should stay far, far away from), but modwest is a damn fine choice.
I'm paying NOK 1500 a month, that's about $200. Very few ISPs around here just host customers boxes around here, and even fewer allow people to play with it as they please. I'm just aware of one other than this, and they're more expensive. The bill is actually shared between a non-profit I work for, and my father...
The bandwidth to it is excellent. It is actually sitting on the top of the national backbone. That's not going to last, unfortunately, it was just because they are rebuilding their server room. The bottleneck there is probably the hard drive and not the network anyway... :-)
Employee of Inrupt, Project Release Manager and Community Manager for Solid
I don't usually post but I'm very satisfied with my Johncompanies FreeBSD Box
I pay $65 / Month
- root on your own server
- Full FreeBSD Filesystem
- 2 gigabytes disk space
- 40 Gigs transfer / Month
- Firewall access
- Unlimited tech support
- We supply the hardware
I'm currently running a very kickass apache box with an incredible uptime (they've been down once and they weren't really down, just a network problem, 90% of my customers were able to still reach the sites)
I'm hosting over 30 domains on there, not low bandwidth either. And I'm probably going to be buying more boxes to setup a web serving cluster as the number of users increases
The support is fast fast fast. I get replies in less than 5 minutes in some cases.
http://www.johncompanies.com/
I've had a dedicated server for about 5 years now. For the first 4.5 yeas I was on Hurricane Electric. H.E. has got to be the crappiest host in the world. They were great when I first started with them but made absolutely no advances in their servce or technology in 4.5 years. When they told me they couldn't install lib-mcrypt because it was too hard, I knew it was time to move. I've been with ProHosters for close to 6 months now and I think it was the best decision of my life. Realtime 24/7 support via their own IRC channel and super-smart people working there. They totally work their asses off for you. I have a dedicated RedHat box. I get 100 GB/month transfer with $1.50/GB over and they manage it for me. It costs me $300/month which is pretty normal for a dedicated machine.
ProHosters
Oddly enough I've the exact opposite experience. PacBell couldn't show me their terms of service (actually the sales rep didn't even know what it was). And with the SBC buyout, they won't even offer DSL service as they say I'm too far away, despite the fact that I had their service and it worked fine.
Speakeasy was nice and upfront about their terms of service, and that they'd like to only do 384/128. I said that 1.5/384 worked fine for PacBell, and they put that in. Worked great since.
Geez, if you feel that strongly, maybe you shouldn't post under AC.
/. readers where the best deal is?
Also, did you ever think that it's the editors who are too lazy to do their own research?
CmdrTaco: Did you see the latest bill for our website - aack! We've got to stop posting such big stories, or else we're going to have to find another provider.
michael: Why don't we ask the
timothy: They've been pretty pissed at us lately - have you seen the comments?
michael & CmdrTaco: No.
timothy: Why don't we pretend it's from another person, then...
CmdrTaco: Great! It's so crazy, it just might work!
ask the sales team a few questions:
;)
Ask how many internet connections they have and what speed with each one.
Ask how many NIC cards will be in your machine.
Ask what your max Mbps is
(This always gets you put on hold) Ask what the machines bus speed is
Ask if RAM upgrades/HD additions are priced per month or if there is a one time fee.
Ask if they will search your box for illegal materials. (you be surprised how many said yes) That means you are not the only one with root. so throw them out of the list.
Ask if you get unlimited users accounts. (dell host caps you at 100 pops) thats not full service!
Ask what the minimum billing is for support. some have 30 min some have 1 hr.
Ask if they use a in house linux distribution.
Ask if they offer security bullitens and offer links to patches.
call there tech support before you sign up and tell them you are a customer. (play the dumb blonde) see how they treat you.
Ask your salesman for their cellphone. (that gets some laughs)
Look up the server companies IP block then hit em on ARIN and see if they own a substantial block or if they own one at all!!
Ask if you are your own dns or if you have to use theirs.
Ask if your on a virtual dedicated.
Ask what the levels of discount are per GIG over allocation.
Ask who owns them
Ask about offsite back ups storage., how far away is it?
Ask if you are allowed on their property
Ask the price of additional IPS
Ask if you can tour the facility
Ask if you can ethernet multiple boxes to bypass bandwidth fees.
Ask if you can host adult sites
Ask if your machine has a control panel that support insists you use. (cobalt!!! ahhhh!!!)
ask how long they have had a business license.
and last, ask about the spam policies and what they consider spam and what the fine is per message.
that should help with the fodder
pretzel_logic
Do you really think its free?
What they are getting is your full attention if something goes wrong with the configuration since you are probably going to care more if your own site is affected by any possible downtime that can occur.
IE: they get a tech monitoring it for free off-hours
Also, the pessimist might think that they are also making it so that if there IS a problem, then they have a "fall-guy" to cover them if it came down to it..
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Time is on my side
I have 4 machines with Rackshack, and I've been mostly happy with them.. except for one of the machines being buggy and having the refuse to believe me until they checked and found the IDE cable not seated properly.
They give you tonnes of bandwidth (400GB per machine), too. Roughly 150kbps (a T1 basically).
They do load balancing? No way, I was told they didn't, because I could really use it!
Hilary Rosen's speech was about her love of money and her desire to roll around naked in a pile of money.
Definitely worth the $90 i send them a year...250 Megs, 25G transfer, php, mysql, perl...well worth it. And I can say that I voted with my money -- part of my decide to use them was based on the fact that they supported a favorite browser of mine, Opera, and they are very proud of their UN*X roots.
forget it.
http://www.lexiconn.com/
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$2/GB traffic
$.50/GB/day storage
$.15/minute CPU time (for scripts)
It's easy to track your usage through their website, and create multiple accounts with different privilidges. For any site with less than 100 visitors a day, this is perfect, because there's no monthly charge. I've maintained my church's website for 6 months there, and haven't exceeded $.15 yet.
nearlyfreespeech.com is cheaper, but they don't allow ssh (or telnet) access. This is a big downside for those of us who enjoy unix because of it's user interface ;)
Unfortunately, I can't help you if you need more bandwith than those guys can give. Good luck!
Free unix account: freeshell.org
I'm having trouble beliving anyone would pay $800 per megabyte per month!
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I have a reseller account with nocster, and it works out pretty cheap. I split it with one other person, we each pay $15/month. But the best thing is WE CAN HOST AS MANY DOMAINS AS WE LIKE. So I got 1 domain, he has a domain, and we share another one. Plus my little brother has been wanting to make a website, so a $8 DNS registration and bamn, he gets some space too.
We get 1gb of disk, and 20gb transfer. This is the lowest option, you can get a lot more.
Checkit out.
www.wpidalamar.com - Personal web site
Our joint-venture: www.geek4.com - public web site, like slashdot, but anyone can post, and then people can subscribe to various authors to determine what news they get.
When I started with SpeakEasy, I was about two months into a year lease in a section of Boston that won't have broadband/cable for years to come. Since SpeakEasy locks you in for a year, I knew I was going to "burn" a couple of months when I moved out. When I moved out, I got in touch with them to tell them that I moved, and cancelled my telco service. My monthly was $90, with a $300 or so termination fee. My plan was to let the two months run out, paying only $180. Instead, they tried to charge me the termination fee! I got in touch with them to tell them that I didn't want my account cancelled, just that the DSL connection no longer exists. In the end they let me pay the $180, but I was *not* happy about that.. I then moved, and am in a cable modem area, giving me the same bandwidth at a much lower price-point..
http://www.johncompanies.com/collocation/
I had hosted for free in my last two jobs, but my new company is so small that they won't let me plug my bsd box into the network (I am employee #12 and they did not want it to look like it was favoritism). So time to go and actually pay for hosting, ouch.
I was ready to bite the bullet and pick a cheapo unix shop, but I was so addicted to having full control of my free bsd server that I kept looking around and found JohnCompanies. $65 for a virtual colo, so the physical server is running multiple virtual partitions that to the user look like a full system. I said screw it, if it does not work I lose $65 and I can look elsewhere.
So far everything they have promised has been right on the money. The support is AWESOME. Email them at the weirdest hours and a real person replies within minutes. They don't charge for backups (my company has a colo that wants $200/month extra to do backups for us). The server runs pretty damn fast, and it is triple-homed.
When you receive the server it is freeBSD4.6 and stripped to the bone. The only thing running is sendmail and ssh, plus a fresh ports tree. Anything else you want, you install yourself exactly how you want it. Don't know how to do something? Email support and they will walk you thru it.
I am hosting 5 websites and running mail feeds for 2 and so far no outages and no complaints.
By the way, if you are an open source developer they will give you a price break, and they also have deals for Linux instead of freeBSD and also for actual rack space if you want to provide your hardware.
Pedro
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The Insomniac Coder
I had a very similar situation with Speakeasy, although it involved handoff problems and Verizon screw-ups. They suddenly charged me $300 for my modem a year after _they_ told me to go with a different ISP. I told them to go ahead and bill me but I wouldn't pay it. After a sequence of increasingly nasty collection notices and endless threats and credit warnings, I chickened out and ended up paying.
All throughout, they kept the polite smiley attitude that everybody from Seattle seems to have, but nobody was actually willing to help me there. I would really recommend that folks stay away from all big ISPs, esp Speakeasy, and find local small-fry ISPs who actually want your business.
I'll second the RackShack notion.
I rent two (2) 1.3 GHz Athlons with 512M RAM and 40 GB IDE drives for a total of $200/mo. That comes with 400 GB of traffic per machine (averages out about a 100% utilized T1 throughout the month).
The machines have different functions, and rsync allows them to mirror each other. Either machine can take over the duties of the other in case of failure.
Never had a problem with Speakeasy. Switched to them from Interaccess (local Chicacgo) which was bought by Hosting.com which was then bought by Allegiance. The Interaccess service got progressively suckier with each buyout until it became a capped, crippled, unreliable piece of crap.
Speakeasy has been excellent in service, support, and extras.
On topic, I use bluedomino.com for hosting. Kind of expensive but I've been with them a long time and like everything as it is.
"When it rains, it pours." --Morton's Salt
Whoa! I read ServerBeach as BeaverSearch. Perhaps it's time to call it a day.
-- My hovercraft is full of eels.
I've used several ISP/CoLo sites over the past six years and have been with PogoLinux for the past two.
I'm very happy with them, $149 a month for their hardware at their site (15 GB xfer/month). I've paid more to CoLo my own boxes.
You have root access on your box.
Had no service interruptions or power outages since I've been with them. I just checked my uptime and it was 292 days, I bounced it earlier this year after patching something.
Anyways, I'm not affiliated, etc, but I've been very happy with PogoLinux.
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Find one that looks adequate for your needs, then ask about it on webhostingtalk.com, to make sure it's reputable.
Free unix account: freeshell.org
While your experience sounds pretty negative, most people have very positive experiences with them -- check out their ratings on DSLreports. The Cream of the Crop for DSL providers.
i colo with these guys.
;-P
their only problem was september 11th, 2001. since they host on wall street, they had a teensy weensy problem with the power grid that week.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I just happen to work for a web hosting company.
http://rhyton.com
It is great. You can do virtual web hosting yourself. You can connect with ssh. Perl, mysql, and sendmail are all installed. You can even configure them for your needs.
I'm paying a company at Ottawa, Ontario for about $10 CDN / month. I got the shared server Linux package with ftp, apache, mysql, php, pop3, smtp, and other admin features. 90MB storage, 5GB traffic, max 20 POP3 email boxes.
They also offer 200MB storage, 10GB traffic, 40 mail boxes, etc. for about $13 CDN.
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Mathematics will always come back to hunt you down, in so many ways
I went with a small shop from a guy that advertised it in his .sig here. $12 a month for a pretty nice setup, all admin was done using scripts, monthly fees paid via paypal.
It was three weeks before I noticed my email was bouncing from that domain and me web stuff was GONE.
No announcement, no 'sorry, we're closing shop', just GONE. It was a real PITA running around getting DNS's changed and recreating the web content.
Now I'm paying $22 a month to Earthlink. It may cost more, but it's not gonna go away in the middle of the night.
"Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
How much do you pay for socks?
What is the best way to get Ketchup out of the bottle?
I host myself, but for the business DSL connection, it's $75CAD (about $45US or so?) a month for business DSL.
The server I bought used, with the box and all internals at about $120CAD.
Comparable, a hosting company I work with charges about $25/mo CAD for shared hosting (there are other dedicated packages as well). If I weren't hosting a bunch of other people for free, and using a lot of bandwidth/files, I'd probably have gone for the $25/mo server, it's cheaper than running the business DSL (but also not as prestigious as running one's own server).
And they currently have a special for 1U Co-Lo with 100GB/Month and 2 IPs for $50/month. This is a pretty good deal. I have been with them for 2 years and just renegotiated my contract to the new rate. (As my old one just expired) Very, very good. I've had no problems even coming in and just working on my machine. Just let them know you are coming.
Well given the cost of bandwidth and supply outstripping demand - costs are cheap, but never cheap enough. I pay around £10 a month for hosting of a whole domain in Telehouse with respectable limits; I suspect man will make it to Mars before I hit them. Of course it's also the peerage that makes a big difference and not forgetting support. I've currently been using http://www.metahusky.net/hosting.html for over a year now and never for one minute had my train of thought derailed with support issues - sex yeah but not me hosting. Heck they have the same peerage as the bbc.co.uk, so if /. Does an article on all colo's I'm sure this would handle the load (I wonder when /. will give out awards too sites that survive without removing content or requireing registration).
Security is also an area of concern and you really can't place a cost on that - I mean, what's your business worth, as that's what's at stake. Again I'm happy given that I work in security and have still to catch them out.
At the end of the day you have to look at what you want and then find a supplier that can meet that. Also look into security, support (hours of support as well;) and also who uses them currently from the perspective on how long they have been there - whats there churn like, and do your own research on that by emailing a couple of the webmasters of the hosted domains of from google or whatever means you prefer.
£100 per month, plus £20 for every 30Gb of data transfer. That includes 1U space, power, remote console, etc and a 10Mbps connection.
Choosehosting host all of our games server off QiX - fabulosuly low pings, great support, great speeds. They also offer central European hosting for European-centric customers.
I wanted to keep it short, so I didnt write in all the details.
I had already been on the line for over a year - and all the emails to them was to determine what the status of my account was now that I had been on the account past the year that I had signed up for.
I was asking them what happened to my account now that i was on there past the one year sign up. I didnt agree to another year, so did that make me month to month by default? did I need to sign up again? what exactly did this mean.
None of the reps knew what to do - some told me flat out (in writing) that yes, I was on month to month, others just ignored my emails several times, others just said they didnt know.
It wasnt until i told them I was leaving due to better service offering that they tried to tell me that just because I signed up for a years contract, and the year was over - that I was still beholden to that contract. I told them they were nuts. A years contract lasts one year. there was no stipulation in the contract for what happened after the year was up - so too bad for them.
I think it boiled down to the fact that DSL was so new to them that they didnt really think of what was going to happen after the year was up when they wrote the contracts up.
But here was the clincher for me: I was never a Speakeasy customer. I had covad/northpoint to begin with. After they imploded - my accoutn was SOLD to speakeasy. They just had a transition/assimilation of my DSL line into their system - and I never signed/agreed to any contract. When they were trying to threaten me by saying that I agreed to their EULA I countered with the fact that I never signed up with them. I was just given no option, either I went to their site for COVAD customer assimilation and got my new IPs - or I lost my line.
I went, there was no EULA on the site, or any form of explaination of services... just a real fast page thrown up to let COVAD northpoint users switch over before the deadline.
anyway... im kinda happy now. my DSL bill is 64.95 and I split that with my roommate...
pacbell can suck my d!ck though... (so can every other telecom bastard on the planet)
arrowweb.com and ezpublishing.com both offer
$7-$15/mo hosting...CGI scripts and UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH--the catch is the total storage space is on the low end, 50-100megs.
all my sites run on one of them, and I've been pretty happy. ezpublishing seems slightly more reliable, but has a funkier CGI setup.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
Currently I'm hosting about 45 domains and about 15 machines at my home.
:)
I have a T1 through o1 and so far I've been very happy with them. I know most of the guys that work there, and they actually call *me* if they notice any issues with the T1 circuit.
It's costing me about $500/mo for the full 1.54mbit circuit. No other limitations at all. I run my own DNS & everything.
I'm a happy customer.
Here is my 3 cents.
/year. That is just for one of our datacenters and we do content cacheing w/ a third party too. this is for full managed support w/ dedicated admins w/ HP. we run about 40 servers w/ a steady 30mb/s peaking up to 55. w/ the other datacenters and our content cacheing included we are peaking up to 160mb/s. sweeeeeeetttt!!!!!
When my dotcom lost our t3 we had to go colo. i used nyi.net for awhile. they were cheap but you got what you paid for. our price was relatively close to what their price configurator turned out. Our ceo did manage to work out a bit better deal. that was definitely a "Cheap" operation. it was basically what I would have if my buddies and i put up a colo facility. they were fully redunant in the network but the ac was just a big window ac. i had to add some scripts to my monitors to watch my cpu temp on my suns b/c they had no idea if the ac went out. I would call them and tell them to fix the ac. there was no security to speak of (cameras and pin access door). nobody around after 6 etc... Though on the plus side they didn't go down after sept 11th and they were only about 4 blocks away. the building ac was down but the network kept on humming (of course I had to turn off some machines b/c of heat and I didn't know how long it would last but i was still impressed)
anyway, before i left that company we moved our equipment to globix. we ended up w/ 2 full cabinets at globix w/ 2mb pipe for about $1500/mth. that was after MUCH bargaining. when we moved there I really realized how cheap nyi was. I no longer got network 'blips' on my monitors and everything just seemed better.
of course now, i have stepped up a bit. just for kicks....
our current setup is just under $1mil
costly, but we make more than we spend so it is all for the best. B)
I'm using a small local provider that somehow escaped unscathed from the raping of most of the local providers here (they all pretty much went out of business or were bought by large national/regional shops). I believe they charge us about US$200/month to get 1 IP address and 1 100mbit ethernet port. They have DS3 connectivity, and we get charged extra if we go over 10GB of traffic per month. They give us a small locked cabinet (1/4 of a rack) that could probably fit about 10U of equipment. They have multiple grid feeds from the power company to reduce the likelyhood of total outage, but you're on your own for supplying a small UPS for your equipment. Prices go up for more GB/month and/or more IPs and ethernet cables.
11*43+456^2
Sure it is. NOT!!
They use Windows boxes for their servers. With all of the security problems and virus trouble targeting window products, I'd rather leave the server unpluged than host on a windows server.
Carpe Scrotum - The only way to deal with your competition.
CmdrTaco: Did you see the latest bill for our website - aack! We've got to stop posting such big stories, or else we're going to have to find another provider.
michael: or maybe if we just stopped posting the same stories twice...
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"And may your days be long upon the earth."
Really, you're only going to be pumping out at T1 rates? That's slow. A P200 computer could handle that. Put all of your stuff on ONE decent 1.x GHz machine and save yourself the money on rackspace. If you really need a lot of processor power for the database, get a dual CPU system.
Did you read the link you posted? On the first page there were several horror stories similar to what I described: overcharged, underprovisioned, horrible speeds and/or latency, rude/lying/unresponsive customer service, etc. etc. Their advertising promulgates an image of them as being a place that caters to geeks by providing a low-fluff connection and great service for a premium, which is 100% A-OK, but as I and other people have observed, they're not very good about living up to their advertising. Sure, there are a bunch of 5 star reviews, but there are also a bunch of 1 star reviews. If i had the time to flame them good, believe me, I'd be typing in pages there and giving them a ZERO star rating if the form allowed it... Maybe, being *very* charitable, it's a case of growing too fast on their part... Honestly I as a paying customer shouldn't have to care about that though. I was paying for 1500/768, getting more like 300/200, and that with 300-500 msec pings to grace.speakeasy.net (their shell server) or any of the servers where I work (an ad firm/programming shop here in Austin).
If speakeasy.net is the cream of the crop, the others must shoot your dog or something. I honestly don't see how an ISP could be any worse.
News for Geeks in Austin, TX
Okay, so my website is hosted by the university that I attend, so I suppose the package deal (including room and board) isn't that bad...I mean, I get a BA out of it in the end as well! -tcp
Heh, too funny. I live about 5 minutes away from their colo facility.
:-)
My employer is taking bids on colo service right now, and they are quite competitive. They'll let you burst too, which I've noticed many providers won't. It's something to watch out for, it prevents "surprise" bandwidth bills when your site gets linked to from slashdot.
I'm thinking of colocating myself in my closet ;-)
;-)
There is at least one company offering uncapped (As far as monthly transfer cap) internet on the fastest DSL lines available here... http://www.tht.net has unlimited 3500/800 lines (Translates into roughly 640kbit upstream after overhead) for 70$ CDN per month.
It's a bit pricey, but the thought of 640kbit of unlimited upstream to do with as I please is making me drool, and I'm thinking of shelling out the extra dough to go from my current capped 3500/800 line over to THT... Once I'm with THT it seems I will be able to worry about saturating the connection rather than saturating my transfer limit
Oh, and they're server friendly too. www.x-crew.net has a 14 player Natural-Selection server hosted on a resold (through cuic.ca) THT line.
We used to have a bunch of servers at an Exodus IDC in co-lo. Exodus service was great. Lots of bandwidth, responsive tech support, etc... BUT their sales team totally screwed us over and overcharged us. When this continued for months and we heard from others this was a common practice, we jumped ship.
We are now on managed servers from Rackspace. KILLER. Don't have to worry about hardware costs and we get great support from them. Fast connections, great service, no hassles. Rackspace rocks.
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They don't offer telnet/ssh access with their accounts, but it's not neccessary as anything you want/need installed they do for you. You are basically free to do what you want with your service and I have yet to have a problem with them on anything. I wanted PHP4 and they installed it when they got my email and I was setup the same day I emailed them. There's other features from xeran, here's a few quick links:
Hosting plans
Reseller accounts (Basically you can host webpages through them)
They also offer co-location and dedicated server, but I don't see why you'd need that. What most everyone does with me is register a domain then they use dns from MyDomain and do a blind redirect to a subdirectory of my site. So they have their own
For Example:
Main Site (dugnet.com)
monkeypirates.org
www.dugnet.com/monkeypirates/
If you notice the last two look alike, but the address is different. It helps to know someone who is willing to offer some free space for sure, just ask all the moochers on my site
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
I've set up numerous sites for clients, and myself over the last few years, and now exclusively host on US servers even though I'm in the UK. The reason? bandwidth charges. The standard UK hosting packages give around 5GBpm which is wholely unsuitable for even a medium traffic site - and the charges per GB after that are extortinate. At least, that's my experience. I think it's laughable that so many "packages" quote 1GB disk space, plus DB, and all the bells+whistles, then limit the bandwidth so much it's impossible to make use of the space anyway!
;-)
Mind you, I'm having my own problems with my current host for my personal site (Liquid Web) - they ignore questions - such as why the server hosting my site is rebooted every few days, and constantly runs with a load avg of 20+ making it sluggish and often serving incomplete pages... starting to rant here now, time to stop
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
I've been using Ehostsource.com in combination with Dyndns.org for DNS
DynDns for a $30 one time fee will set you up with a great little webapp you can use to configure almost anything in the DNS you want in real time (including DNS ttl)
Ehostsource is cheap, really cheap, Customer service and the (SUN) server are a little slow at times, but the service rocks for the price. They provide DNS but I prefer the Dyndns service by far.
EHostSource:
$5.75/month
free setup
500 MB Hosting
50 GB Transfer
Unlimited email
20 Sub-Domains
FrontPage 98/00/02
PHP4/Perl
webadmin app
web/pop3 mail
SSI/mySQL
Daily Stats
Daily Backup
Web Control Panel
FTP/SSH Access
Shell Account
30 Day $$ back gaurantee
www.timcomputer.com
They dont have fixed pricing you usually call up a consultant and they will talk to you and see what you want and what you need. After understanding you need. They can provide you with Web Access, Shell Access, FTP, SSH, PC Anywheres, basicly any protocal you need, Backups, Shared or Dedicated server (Solaris, Linux or Windows (if you really need it)
They concitrate towards buisness use I have heard of prices between $4 to $250 per month depending on your needs.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
About uptime/downtime/tech support - for ten bucks, I'd say it's one of the best deals around. I used to host stuff on HostPro for more than twice that much money and had really crappy throughput and, frankly, an annoying web-admin interface. Tech support was also bare minimum.
So far, he.net has been responsive, has great throughput, and a great shell environment to do admin stuff from. My only real complaint is that vim was compiled april 2001, which broke on my .vimrc.
But, anyway, if it all turns to shit and I decide I don't like it, I can always go somewhere else -- there's no year or 6 month contract, and payments are made monthly.
_khl
When I first signed up with HE.net, the $200 rate was for 1U or 2U of rack space, but I'm quite sure they sent me a card more recently quoting the same rate for 4U of space. I think they offered a half-rack for a really good price (maybe $400 per month?). Their rates might be cheaper now, or they may have different specials. You didn't say what size or shape your three servers are, so I have no idea whether your equipment could fit in 3U of space, or might need 12U or even as much as 21U. (A rack unit, or RU, is 1.75 inches vertically, by something like 26x39 width and depth, sorry I don't have the actual dimensions handy.)
They provide all the features of a good colo facility: enclosed, locked racks (so someone servicing a machine in another rack can't knock out your cables, as sometimes happened with other colo providers I used); 24/7 staffing and access if needed; UPS and air conditioning; staff that will power-cycle your server at no charge, and they even hooked up a monitor and keyboard to see what was wrong when my server's power supply failed, and they didn't charge extra for that. I think they also have the fancy oxygen-reducing and fire-suppressing equipment.
I was extremely happy with Hurricane Electric, by far the best of my three experiences with colocating a server in the area. They have facilities in San Jose and Fremont, California.
Beware: When I was shopping for colo services, I often found that the salesman's claims were not honored in the contract or in practice. One colo provider told me for THREE months that my outages were not their fault, then when I spent money and proved they were at fault, they agreed and allowed me to terminate my contract, but wouldn't make good on any promises (thankfully I did not sue, since they filed for bankruptcy several months later).
In some cases, you may be promised 24/7 access, but when you need access at 2am you find out that there is no staff from midnight to 8am and the on-call tech just refuses to come out because he's really tired and you're not an important customer. Or they promise redundant internet connections from multiple backbone providers, but they are connected to those providers through a single Pacific Bell T1 line (e.g. they had one T1 line that connected to a facility served by multiple backbone providers, but if the T1 line is lost, your connection is lost). And of course, with the domino of bankruptcies of colo providers, many facilities close with only a week's warning, and sometimes a facility may be closed and your equipment disconnected and shipped to another facility without your knowledge -- so your server is offline for several days, and then when you want to pick it up from San Jose, you find out it was shipped to Virginia.
Read the fine print in your contract.
-- http://www.MarkWelch.com/ Pleasanton California
Ok, this story is eerily posted the same day I discovered what looks like a gem! (Please, someone, prove me wrong)
.. Celeron 1.7GHz, 512M RAM, 80G HD, *500GB transfer*, for $99 a month with no setup!!! WTF? .. Towards the upper end, a P4 2.0GHz w/ 1G of ram and 120GB HD and 3 TERRABYTES of transfer for $299/month.
.. Sure, they do that too. $1/month. 500GB transfer. Zero setup fee. And $49/month per 1U.
.. My current contract (OH, BTW, unitedcolo doesn't even require a contract! it's month 2 month!) .. current contract expires in april, and you better believe I'm switching to these guys and pulling out my pogolinux-built linux boxen and having some fun toys for the home.
I'm currently paying $400/month for 50G of transfer ($2.50/G for extra) and 4U of space. 2 IPs. These are my own machines, so it's just colocation charge.
So, if anyone has seen what's been going on at newzbin.com, they had some illegal stuff posted, and their ISP (unitedcolo.com) gave them a couple options: term their contract, or rebuild the server (to wipe out the illegal stuff).
On their rant page (newzbin.com), they gave a link to their provider. (http://www.unitedcolo.com).. What do I see?
Dedicated Server
Cough.
Colocation?
They even go as far as saying you're free to host your own porn sites if you wish. They just don't want anything on their network that's infringement - because everyone has an upstream provider (even the big boys) who don't take kindly to it. So I understand why they're giving newzbin.com a hard time.
SO. What's the catch here?
For an x86 server running Linux from Rackspace. Full control. You can dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda and they won't care. Survived a slashdotting with no trouble at all.
There are places that are cheaper of course, but I have full confidence in Rackspace, and I believe if I'm satisfied, there's no reason I should abandon my business with them.
100$ a year covers
* some stuff takes an additional 10$ onetime setup fees.
Well, I'm still a student at the Menlo School, which is a pretty good school. Among other things, it offers a server for student use: thibs. Shell access, virtually unlimited web and file sharing space --- it's great. Beat that!
TANSTAAFI: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free iPod.
Back in 1998, I discovered that my 7am.com website was generating some pretty heavy traffic and decided that I needed a decent US-based provider on which to host it.
:-)
I chose Tierranet and was certainly never disappointed.
Within a few short years, 7am.com grew to become the world's most widely syndicated web-based news service, delivering news headines through its Java-based news ticker more than two million times a day across a network of more than 200,000 third-party webpages -- and it really started gobbling up bandwidth.
From memory we were doing 15GB-20GB and servicing 2-3 million HTTP requests per day on average.
TierraNet has always provided exceptional service, outstanding performance and brilliant support.
Although I'm no longer involved in the day-to-day operation of 7am.com, I still have several smaller sites hosted with TierraNet and I'm just as happy.
When my Jet-powered gokart page was slashdotted a while back, the service had absolutely no problems keeping up with the load. There were around 40,000 visitors in just a few hours and even though most of these downloaded videos and other large objects, the server didn't blink an eye.
All the usual diclaimers apply -- I don't work for Tierranet, I'm not a shareholder, I don't get a commission, I have no relationship with them other than as a very satisfied customer for about six years now.
They're not the cheapest -- but if you're looking for bullet-proof hosting with great support then I'm damned if I've seen better value anywhere (and yes, I've looked
Mega Bit is an amount of information. Bandwidth is the amount of information per unit time. Often times you'll hosting advertized with a figure in gigs/month, and thats a literal term. Something like $20 for 20gigs/month. Just look through these other posts in this thread.
What you mean is $800/mb/second/month, or simply $324/Tb/month, if you saturated your pipe the whole time.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
I second that "csoft sucks" bit. I've never seen so many problems. Downtime that actually lasted for days at a time. Hard drive crashes, and then they try to pretend nothing happened, restoring last week's backup like no one will notice! They used to have to reboot one of their OpenBSD boxes daily. Stupid billing problems. The list goes on...
-jerdenn
I pay nothing because I offset the cost hosting other people's sites. But that answer is glib and unhelpful, let me elaborate...
...real hosts tell you the kbit/s rate you're buying, which is how they buy it). So I leased a Cobalt RAQ (the worlds shittiest machine, but with a lot of tools to help out people who are idiots with UN*X and would otherwise seriously F up the machine) along with 6 of my friends.
I was faced with the problem two years ago that my website was entirely too popular to continue running on a little PC in my basement but not popular enough to ever make any money. Furthermore, the sheer amount of content -- close to 5 gig of photos and movies I've worked on -- and my SQL/JSP needs placed me in the "Enterprise" class of most static web hosts.
I was looking at $100+ per month. For about the same price, I could lease a server with a very low 50 GB transfer limit (by the way, the pay per gigabyte thing is a sure sign your host is catering to the low end
It was supposed to be a co-op deal...everybody pays their fair share and can do what they like with it. But the other 5...well...they never paid me. Never do business with friends. So at the behest of a siteop I knew I hosted a guy for $10 a month and a free set of guitar strings. The price kind of stuck, so I adjusted the resources available to the machine until I could divvy them up fairly at $10 per month without taxing it while still keeping room for my things. Much the same way that you might divvy up an apartment building, which is why I chose the name "webslum." I work maybe 5 hours a week on the server, and charge a little extra for things that need more maintenance (SQL support is the big one).
The price is actually sort of steep for bottom of the barrell housing, but this guarantees the server will never get overloaded and that I'll always have time to answer questions personally. It also means that less goes wrong and solutions are simpler...and that means less down time (something like 99.98% uptime, beat that Geoshitties).
A lot of people are offsetting their server costs by getting a good deal for more than they need and selling the excess. In fact, our next server host did just that -- signed a desperation deal with a flailing ISP and began selling space in their racks for peanuts. We're going to take our share of that space and sell even more space and bandwidth for $10 a pop. It's like those emails I get about pyramids and tony robbins, only it actually works. The only trick is having to be rather clever.
Hey freaks: now you're ju
I use johncompanies to host a coupla domains now, and they're pretty good. I'd give them a better review, but I have a few experiences that have made me not as happy as I could be:
I've had this happen 2 times already:
- changing the perms on
/dev/kmem so that only root could read it (broke top for normal users, security risk according to them)
- disabling daily/weekly/monthly crontabs in
/etc/crontab. This was to avoid daily reboots of the box when everybody's daily cronjobs would trigger at the same time and take it down.
Both times, I emailed them asking what was going on, and asking them to at least notify me whenever they change files in my jail. I emailed them a couple of times over the course of 2 months about the crontab disabled thing. I got "we're still looking into that" and then no replies. I later re-enabled it in my jail.Despite those issues, I'm a pretty happy customer, and have even recommended other people to them. If you're really interested in the service, I'd suggest testing it out first to see if it's a good fit for what you want to do.
Did you read the link [dslreports.com] you posted? On the first page there were several horror stories similar to what I described: overcharged, underprovisioned, horrible speeds and/or latency, rude/lying/unresponsive customer service, etc. etc. Their advertising promulgates an image of them as being a place that caters to geeks by providing a low-fluff connection and great service for a premium, which is 100% A-OK, but as I and other people have observed, they're not very good about living up to their advertising. Sure, there are a bunch of 5 star reviews, but there are also a bunch of 1 star reviews.
:)
And how does that differ from every other broadband provider?
So you had a bad experience with SpeakEasy. Guess what? Lots of people have had good experiences with them. Look at the leader board at dslreports.com . Speakeasy is near the top of its class (the National ISP class). That means they've had far more good reviews than bad ones.
See, every provider has its horror stories, and every provider has success stories. Every provider can get positive testimonials, and every provider has dissatisfied customers. The trick to comparing providers, therefore, is to look at the success rate. Assuming that everyone else had the same experience with them as yourself is not only inaccurate, but also terribly egocentric.
In case you're wondering, I or my family have had SpeakEasy DSL lines at three different addresses, and we've been happy with every one. That explains why I tend to disagree with you
Honestly I as a paying customer shouldn't have to care about that though. I was paying for 1500/768, getting more like 300/200, and that with 300-500 msec pings to grace.speakeasy.net (their shell server) or any of the servers where I work (an ad firm/programming shop here in Austin).
This is better -- at least these are specific complaints. Then again, you might also want to explain why didn't you cancel in the first month (aka the trial period) and why you don't downgrade to 768/384 so that you're paying less (that should be free if you're really just getting 300/200). Have you tried any other DSL ISPs? _Can_ you get better than what you've got, or is that the best you'll get from anyone (perhaps you're really far from your Central Office?) If you're going to complain, at least tell the full story.
I'm attempting to reverse "server proliferation" at my LFC* by moving to VMWare on IBM x440 hardware. As long as you have a service level agreement with your hosting provider that suits your needs, why should you insist on separate boxes? Separate instances on the same hardware should be enough.
My current hosting works this way - I have been using vservers/hostpro/Interland for the past four years and have not experienced any outages since a one-hour scheduled window for a network change in 2000. VMs (not virtual domains) are fine for the vast majority of sites out there.
*LFC - Large Faceless Corporation
I've been using Spry.com. Unquestionably the best web host I've ever used. Their main offering is the "Root Server", a FreeBSD-jail based shared platform. This gives the flexibility of full root access on a less expensive server-- starting at $60/month. And unlike some other companies, Spry has OUTSTANDING support. Extremely fast, and you'll get a response from someone who actually has a clue.
I believe they also offer colo's, and I'd highly recommend them for anyone needing a rock-solid ISP at a reasonable price.
Pair rocks. I've used it for years. They're rock solid, great customer support, and cheap. I recommend Pair to everyone looking for a domain. I also use Fatcow for one domain. Nice perks for $99/year, but the servers could be faster. Sometimes web response is slow, as is checking mail.
Not as many people have heard of them but Savvis has the largest non-telephone company network worldwide. They have nice latency guarantees as well.
I haven't found a more professional copmany to deal with.
For serious business hosting or bandwidth, they've got better support and more knowledgeable sales reps and technicians. Plus you get right through to a real person.
We used to have SDSL through Savvis and when Northpoint went under Savvis gave us an awesome dirt cheap deal on Colo until our T1 got installed.
Disclaimer: I'm a happy customer and a stockholder.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I'd agree with the autopr0n guy:
bits, bytes, words, nibbles and their kilo, mega, giga, tera prefixes all describe quantities of data.
Bandwidth is expressed in units data per unit time. So megabits/second, bytes/minute, etc...
Bits are a perfectly legitimate unit of data, and if you've ever bought ram then this should be really obvious to you.
Remember, if you host a bandwidth intensive site (not even necessarily tons of visitors, but huge pages -- such as all busy threads on slashdot) use mod_gzip or something similar to it. Slashdot supposedly has mod_gzip installed, but they did not seem to have it configured correctly in the past -- not sure if they do now.
Anyhow, we use it on our properties that have message forums, and we easily take 120K threads down to around 10K per page impression. This could definitely help you save on your bandwidth spikes if you run a burstable or 95th percentile billing with your ISP.
mod_gzip here
Oops. Just thought I'd try to ward off the spelling nazis.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
If you want to do balls-to-the-wall hosting on Linux it doesn't get much better than Dreamhost. All sorts of goodies including PHP, MySQL, dedicated hosting available. These dudes know what the crap they're doing and are bloody fast, responsive, and funny. Don't recall their rates offhand, so check out the site. There's a plan for everything and last I checked they're competitive. I'm grandfathered in at low rates, so I'm happy.
If you're an ASP/.Net M$Slave you can't do much better than MaximumASP. They've got tons of components and despite the fact it's shared hosting it's fast and responsive. Support is top-tier as well and it's cheap at $199, 1GB space, 40GB traffic, etc.
While 1.5 Mbps is a substantial amount of bandwidth, DSL/cable modems are becoming increasingly common. I maintain a server hosted on a T1 that's mainly used for web browsing during the day, and when I do bandwidth-intensive file transfer from my cable modem, I'm able to come very close to filling the T1. While serving normal webpages does work flawlessly, I just wanted to point out that if you offer downloads -- or even just use lots of images/Flash -- your bandwidth will disappear surprisingly quickly. A single user with a cable modem can be eating up all your bandwidth. (Again, I'm not suggesting that a T1 is now worthless, just advising people -- if the T1 is shared with numerous other sites, if a single one is somewhat active, you may have precious little bandwidth.)
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Oooh...Front page and FTP. My dad does not even run his own ISP -- and he only lets me use SSH & SCP. Plus he makes sure I upgrade bind all the time and that I drink my milk!
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
Why, you might ask? Two very good reasons:
For more details see http://www.sdc.org.
Nathan's blog
The hosting is separate from the bandwidth offerings.
Verio bought a company called HIWAY.com and that become thier main hosting division. From shared to dedicated.
The rest of Verio is just bought up ISP's around the country. Lotta shop owners got rich in the mid to late 90's selling out to verio, and a lotta people got laid off.
Verio pays the money for the good equipment and they have very good uptimes. But they do cater to spammers. Hell they host most of the websites in the world. When I was there they cut a deal to let Bell South sell Bell South branded hosting on verio Boxes.
You might want to try rackshack.net. I have had great expereince with them
Puto
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
I did cancel within the first month. After, of course, their autobill perl script nails me for three month's service. (Still waiting on a complete refund there, fat chance at this point in my mind). Really far from the CO? Heh. I live on 18th street. The CO is on 16th street. I could probably hit it with a rock thrown from my window if i had a good enough windup. If it were just latency and throughput suckiness (like having all my packets routed through vienna austria), I could probably deal (although for 100+ a month that's just unreal). Being lied to on several occasions by their customer support staff ("We tried to call at 8 on monday." Right. My contact number was my cell phone, which has caller id and call logging. Guess what, no calls from speakeasy then (and it had power, of course).), getting rude responses, having trouble tickets closed with no solution or explanation, ... yeah, that was the kicker. OK, so you've had good service from them. It's nice to know that luck runs in your family. ;-)
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I can see how you got your slashdot username. Seeing a phrase like that in a comment making an essentially ungrounded editorial interrogation of somebody excercising the one fundamental power consumers have (warning other consumers about shitty companies like Speakeasy.net), well. "Pot calls kettle black. Film at 11."
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Sounds like you have some "unfinished business" to address, first.
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For Dedicated hosting, I use HostingFreaks. Their support is wonderful, people are friendly, and if you do things right, they end up paying you for using their support! Yup...kinda interesting.
I disable sigs...do you?
I just looked at hostmania and they look like a purely MS shop. Where's the BSD option ??
Two wrongs may not make a right, but three
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-- I don't have a website, you insensitive clod!
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Texas had more than 100 earthquakes since 1847.
The Alpine quake of '95 (a 5.8!) did some real damage. A 4.2 in '93 could have been deadly, had it been just a few miles closer to San Antonio.
"The Big One" for Texas would have to be a 9 on the New Madrid fault, but that could level Dallas.
So Quakes aren't at anything like the same level of risk as, say, the Bay Area or Pasadena or Tokyo.
The thing to be afraid of in Texas is a Tornado.
Among all the natural forces available, I'd have to say there's NOTHING scarier than ground zero of a tornado. If you haven't experienced this, believe me, you don't want to.
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I use SilverServers (www.SilverServers.com) for my commercial clients. Their primary business is shared and dedicated server hosting, however Co-location services are available. Since they're situated in Canada, the pricing reflects is significantly lower than US providers I've seen offering similar service.
Quality is provided through redundant power to the rack (2 separate feeds) both with UPS and Generator backups. There are 2 ~100mbps (BGP4) fibre connections through competing providers, backed up by another (smaller) tertiary connection. The standard ~40U racks are in a climate controlled environment in a seismically stable location. (for those non-tech, the temperature is regulated and it's not near any areas known for earthquakes, flooding or other natural problems).
For dedicated servers, their low-end (advertised) product consists of custom-built system running RedHat Linux, Solaris x86 (being phased out last time I checked), and W2K. They offer custom installs, IDE/SCSI RAID (hardware and/or software depending on budget). For a single P3 machine the price starts at $169/month.
Remember, I'm Canadian so the prices I mention are in CAD. They're a solid provider whom I'd definately recommend, especially for dedicated servers.
I've found that most comparable American providers are most expensive, and the really cheap ones who advertise comparable service often run servers in other countries with cheap service and virtually no support. These guys hosted a major soccer server during the European soccer season, the hits they were getting were huge but the (dedicated) server survived nicely, which leads me to believe that they would also survive similarly in a slashdotting.
p.s. I think they also provide domain name registration, which I found was cheaper than elsewhere (they also host my domain).
If you're hosting in their Florida location (one of the major ones), you're in a heck of a facility. It's a section of IBM's big R&D campus in Boca Raton Florida (a small section, but then, the entire facility was *huge*). The buildings are poured concrete (they built big wooden frames, a rebar skeleteton and then filled the frames with concrete - each building section is a single slab of concrete!), and located on the 'inside of 95', meaning they don't have to worry about storm surges from hurricanes. I was hosting in Cybear, another company in the same campus, and my so at the time worked at Hiway.
Nifty facility.
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Evan
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I can totally recomend them. Prompt service, simple billing, (basically $10/month for everything), and everything you need: unlimited mails, space, transfers for small sites. They only need IMAP support, I have been begging them for months now... :)
Yeah man, I worked at the Verio in New Orleans and had the privelige of seeing what they do there. Althouh I left Verio for greener pastures, the company does spend the money on its redundancy and protecting its equipment.
Puto
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Can you really trust 10-best-web-site-and-domain-hosting-services?
I mean, really, a site that still has a Y2k bug on their home page, nearly 3 years after the fact?
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.