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Slackware 9 Unleashed to World
kiltedtaco writes "Slackware Linux 9.0 is out! Based on gcc 3.2, and equipped with kernel 2.4.20 (ptrace-patched), XFree86 4.3, GNOME 2.2 and KDE 3.1. You can read the full announcement, or just go grab a copy for yourself at either the Slackware Store or these lovely mirrors." I know a lot of people who first cut their teeth on Slack when trying Linux. It's cool to see that it's still around.
gotta get me some of that, mmmm tasty
"Sanity is not statistical", George Orwell, "1984"
darn i just downloaded the beta yesterday!
Hey, do I get fp? :-)
its amazing the popularity slackware maintains despite its simplicity. Just goes to show how desireable simplicity can be for some.
In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
Why should I use it in preference to RH or Debian or any of the countless other distros? Does it have some special features? Is it easy to install? Does it have some packages you can't find elsewhere? Have they made some amazing customizations to the kernel?
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
The only thing that makes me happier than FreeBSD releases is Slackware releases. Always clean and small, always reliable, always complete. My first and favorite distro.
Thank you Patrick.
I love Slackware! It's simple and it gives me complete control--just what I want in a Linux distro. If it ever *ceases* to be around, I'll have to take up the Slack myself. ;)
I'm running an upgraded, 9.0 Slackware right now. It's awesome, everything works great, and how you would expect it too. btw.. Does anyone know if there's an automatic update utility for Slack, like Debian has?
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"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell
Since the official Slack FTP is a bit slow from everyone trying to grab it, here are a couple (unofficial) mirror lists:
;)
alphageek.dyndns.org
AbnormalPenguin.com
I've already downloaded mine, so everybody have at it.
Actually, it's been out since Tuesday... but anyway, to us freaks, who kept up to date with -current branch, it was nothing new.
Oh, you'll have a great ol' time. If you (painfully?) learn how to run Slack, then you won't have to un-learn anything in the future.
Good luck. You might need it.
I've also got it running nicely on my laptop (HP Omnibook 9000), it's damn fine. Kudos to Pat and the gang.
Smegma.
Now those were the days :)
Have a old computer that doesn't have a whole lot of space? ZipSlack.
Have no CD-Rom on a computer or just want a FAST easy ready made distro? Big slack. (just extract the zipped files over from a zip disk on the Hard Drive. Edit a text file... reboot :-) Fully functional Linux Distro.
The problem is that usually it takes a bit after the main release before the goodies really come out.
I use SuSE for most everything else but these ready made Distro are great.
Patrick Havens (Mr. 573333 to you.) Graphic Artist / Coder / Father / Journeler
...Buzz Lightyear, i just started downloading and was wondering why it slowed down to a crawl. Can't :)
you keep your mouth shut for at least few days?
Just like I have the last 4 versions. Slackware is the only way to run Gnu/Linux.
Slackware is one of the few major linux distributions that I can install on an old 520MB hard drive.
I haven't tried version 9.0 yet. Have they improved the installation process? I found the text mode one took quite a bit of time to select the individual packages I wanted.
I know a lot of people who first cut their teeth on Slack when trying Linux.
I almost didn't become a Linux convert thanks to Slackware...I made the mistake of trying to install Slackware as my first Linux O/S back in '96. It was a nightmare straight from the bowels of O/S hell. I spent weeks trying to get my 486 running with X (this with no prior Unix knowledge). I finally gave up, and a few years later discovered SuSE and their YaST installer.
Ironically, I now run Slackware on most of my machines...go figure. It's a slick distro, and I've learned a lot since those dark days of '96.
We set up Debian firewalls that use less than 200MB of disk space.
Good luck. I really mean it. Admire your courage.
Personally I spent a good while messing about with Red Hat (7.0, 7.2, 7.3) and Mandrake (9.0) before settling down on Gentoo. Slack's good, though; fellow in the next room uses it, loves the thing. I have a Slackware boot CD around here somewhere, but I never did get around to trying it - I did use it as a rescue disk once or twice though.
It just struck me... you're not having us on, are you? Maybe it's your first Linux install, but you're a veteran of three hundred different BSD systems? :-)
Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
It's Pat Volkerding for god's sake...
Acquiescence leads to obliteration
Been using the beta for about two weeks now, and I'm incredibley impressed, this may be one of the best Slackware releases yet (and I've been using it since...like, 3.0 days, or 'round there. Damn, I'm getting old).
Check it out - Slackware is still alive and kicking ass!
In fact the 9.0 was on mirrors last nite, but the only ISO image was for 8.1
I am always amazed that people are into distros like Slackware. No easy gui install that anyone can do without effort. No way to automatically update the system for security updates. And that's the way they like it.
Usually this is when a Slackware user starts crowing about bloat and spewing phrasing like "redhate". Slackwares's installer and system maintenace methods were normal in 1993, a bit dated by 1996, and positively outdated by 2000. Now that were in 2003 I'm still amazed that anyone wants to deal with all of that manual work in order to get everything completely working.
I guess its all about priorities. People who use something like Red Hat just want to sit down and be productive right away. While Slackware/Gentoo users just want to "master" their computers and dig on "noobs" for not taking the "hard way". I've always thought that was funny since linux is basically linux and a distro like Red Hat is just as powerful as Slackware no matter what the deafault theme looks like.
Oh well. Some things never change. Some people think the ease of use found in modern distros is a sign of weakness. I think its a sign of progress. If I had to return to my linux box from 1996 I'd slit my wrists.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
i saw on distrowatch.com that slack 9 was released 2 days ago, but when i went to slackware.com, it said that slack 9.0rc-1 was released. rc stands for release candidate, correct? is there anything actually different between the rc and the final?
> "I allege that SCO is full of it" -Linus
What happened to distrowatch.com? I haven't been able to connect for the last couple days.
this is the linux distro that i started learning linux with. i read the install manual and figured everything out that way. hopefully slack will be around forever :)
Blah.
I'm thinking about throwning down on Linux install, what's the vibe with this distro--I mean is it designers, programmers, newbies? Like to make sure I'm not stereotyped...any help greatly appreciated.
God Bless America
"This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
Is it easy to install?
... keeps everything as simple as possible.
* The answer to all your questions is no and that's exactly what makes Slackware so attractive.
* It
The coolest voice ever.
I'm sitting here waiting for Mandrake to announce 9.1 and instead Slack steals their thunder. Tell me again why we need all these distros...
I began downloading the ISO about an hour ago. It was downloading at a wonderful rate of 365kb/s and I left to eat. Now I come back and see a little 90kb/s. I said to myself "Huh?" and fired up Mozilla on /. to find out this story...
Happy memories.
*raises glass* This one for you, Patrick, thanks.
I remember back when software was soft and cuddly, with short little legs; we didn't need leashes for it. And we *liked* it that way!
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Same here. I'd bet there are a hojillion of us out there with that history.
Slack has been my first - and my current. I played around with SuSe - it was godawful. By the way Patrick - I have been able to install your 1995 Slackware (3.2?) Onto an IBM MCA PS/2 M55SX with a 60 GB ESDI disc, and 2.9 MB of memory (Thats right - 2.9mb !!!) Too bad I fried the machine later... :(
Oh well ! Time to go dload the 9.0
I did become a Linux convert thanks to Slackware. Also around '96 and with no prior Unix knowledge. I did spend almost two weeks trying to get X working on my 486 and God was it nice to see that little "X" in the center of my screen for the first time :-).
:-)
;-)
I started out on a thin Slackware version (Yes, it CAN get thinner) called DILinux (Drop-In Linux) that installed over UMSDOS. Anyone heard of it?
I didn't know what the kernel or gcc were. But I learned (Thanks to all README writers out there) that I needed them for configuring my sound card. Still remember those nights I spent up while downloading sources from tsx-11 and metalab
As someone else posted, there's no better way to learn Linux than Slackware. At least to learn it *the right way*
P.S. I still run nothing but Slackware on all my desktops and servers =)
I remember my first time. With linux, that is.
Yep, Slackware was my first try at a distro. I bought the 4-disc set of Slackware 3.0 in January '96 because I wanted to buy something but I didn't have enough for a music CD and hey, this was FOUR CDS for ten bucks! Awesome!
So I got it home and read the exhaustive 48 page installation manual-cum-liner notes and figured out how to make the boot disc for my Sound Blaster OmniCD.
I never got PPP to auto dial and never had sound, but I somehow managed to wrap my 15 year old head around xf86config and all in all it was, to this day, the smoothest linux install I have ever done. It all just seemed to work. At least, that's how I remember it...
But maybe I just tell myself that to dull the pain of having no package managment. Maybe the past isn't as good as we rememeber.
But I still have that CD set.
Hilary Rosen's speech was about her love of money and her desire to roll around naked in a pile of money.
Could any of the 'not easy to install' posters please elaborate? Is a curses-style interface really so difficult?
To me, 'not easy to install' means something like a GUI where you can't navigate to the list of packages because your mouse is unsupported.
It's simple to use, no RPM Hell, and if something is broke, you are only a ./configure ; make ; make install away from a fix!
ttyl
Farrell
CAN-CON 2019 - Ottawa's only book oriented Science Fiction Convention! October 18-20, Sheraton Hotel, Ottawa, Canada h
Like the ways physicsts strive to find the simplest laws of physics but laypeople still don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Looking at ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-9. 0/PACKAGES.TXT, it looks like this version of Slack doesn't include Enlightenment....
Anyone know why?
Seems like Slackware has always been around... it's alive and well today, and it will continue thriving forever. I'll bet that after the nuclear holocaust, the mutant cockroaches left wandering the planet will be running and maintaining Slackware still.
Only way I could find a decent server. Don't use anything from the first page until I'm done. :)
Here ya go
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
My first "real" computer was a 486/66. I bought it used, and it came with Windows 3.1 on it. After firing it up and marvelling that people actually paid money for such a piece of crap, I went to the local bookstore and came home with a book that included a Slackware CD. Dunno what distro, but it would have been an old one (3.0?). I've run Slackware ever since.
I had no difficulty getting the thing going, PPP, sound (an excellent excuse for boning up on DSP!), the works. It ran fine in 8 MB RAM. OK, except for Netscape, which page-thrashed for about 2 minutes then ran fine. Upgrading to 32 MB (the capacity of the motherboard) cured that. Now I run a Pentium 3 with 768 MB RAM, plugged in to ADSL. The OS started as Slackware 8.0, but I've upgraded many packages, and run a 2.4.20 kernel. It flies...
To this day I recommend Slackware as a "sharp tools" distro - if you know what you're doing, it's immensely powerful and flexible. If you don't know what you're doing, you're screwed.
FWIW, my most recent Slackware install was Slackware 8.0 on a Toshiba laptop that RedHat 7.3 (the company standard) refused to install on. It would get to about 3 packages before the end, crash, reboot, say GRUB and sit there staring at me. The PCMCIA network card did all the right things, automagically. I had to fiddle a bit with the X configuration to set up yet another weird-ass laptop video card. Big deal.
Thanks, Patrick. Well done!
...laura
Ive used slackware since version 3.0, I have always loved it. I started using unix with netbsd, then found out about linux and slackware was the first linux distro I have ever used, and ever since I still love the way things are handle..no so bulky like the rest...great job!
... 'nuff said! :)
Been running it for 2 days now since its been released and its the best release yet! I give major props to slackware, its the longest running and by FAR the best, easiest, and most none bloated distro out there. Especially if your a more hardcore user, not some RH llama ;-)
Another great release Patrick!
does no one recognize the feat that slashdot accomplished this year by not jumping the gun and announcing the pre-release as many other sites did (linuxtoday). they waited nicely until the official announcement on the slackware site, thereby letting mirrors propagate, instead of pouncing on the changelogs.
does no one remember what happened last time around when michael posted early? good times.... (and then was rude about it to top it off...)
Except for Samba, PoPToP,
1. Slack has Samba included in the N disk set weather you choose to install it or not is up to you.
2, Slack uses Popa3d by default but your welcome to chang it to whatever you like.
... cannot be found inside a linux distro, even as one as cool as Slack. I'd mention a few of the ways to find Enlightenment here, but I bet it would only get me modded down.
The memories ... I started with Dragon Linux (since I didn't want to bother with repartionning, go figure) 6 months ago or so. That was my first distro.
Based on Slackware 7.
My first configuration nightmares !
My first dependency hells !
I'll always remember Slackware.
And should have gotten a newer distro (:
Does anyone know a SAFE way to work Gnome 1.4 back into this (assuming a fresh slack 9.0 install) so as to get legacy GNOME apps like Galeon and Evolution working?
--- Grow a pair, liberals... stop letting the Republicans bully you!
mandrake is s'posed to release in about 2 weeks (sound familiar ut2003'ers?). i dont know about knoppix
> "I allege that SCO is full of it" -Linus
Is it just me or do the slackware guys need some tips in product marketing? this is just not that appealing :)
I've set up a number of Internet and LAN servers, including one for my own business. What I like the most about slackware is its simplicity and transparency in installation and configuration. I can reliably get an installation up and running properly in very little time, and configuration and customization is easy - all off 1 CD, in one go.
Pat Volkerding has done a great job with this distribution; it really is carefully put together. I've been a fan since version 7 and I have already purchased Slackware 9 to show my support. If you like Slackware, please buy a copy from the Slackware Store to help keep the project alive.
I'm a relative n00b to all of this. My first distro was Slack 3.4. One of the 5 CD sets. Cool stuff. Now, I'm a full time Linux user. Thanks a lot Slack devs!
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
PoPToP is a PPTP server. See those capital letters?
fellow in the next room uses it, loves the thing.
Fellow in the next room here,
Slackware is nice and simple. I first started with Redhat 7.3 but I didn't get on with the Redhat way of doing things. Much generic documentation found online didn't apply because Redhat had rearranged the backend so that it would work with their GUIs.
Slackware pretty much installs software where it was intended and encourages you to configure manually or use standard configuration tools such as XF86Config that you can read up on in any HOWTO. Also the packaging system is unobtrusive allowing you to install from source or say Loki or Mozilla installer without messing up packaging management (problems I found with Debian and Gentoo).
Chances are that from a standard install you won't get sound, X11 your CD-Writer or other `peripherals' running but then, just remember that the HOWTO's and other goodies are stored in the /usr/doc directory and of course there's www.google.com. You learn a lot about your computer in just getting things to work.
I cut my teeth on Slack, but then I had a whole summer to mess around before I really needed my computer. If you don't mind the command line (you may be surprised what can be done at a terminal,) and have a bit of time on your hands then try Slack. Oh, and also get a copy of `The Book' from slackware.com, it's a nice conscise but very helpful manual, especially for first install.
Regards
Nemes
The last name doesn't sound very Irish, but Saint Patrick to be sure. And you just missed your very own day, tis a shame to be sure.
Infuriate left and right
...and is missing many crucial ones that would be a godsend if they would just install and work without a plethora of patches (Get PoPToP working with MS-CHAP v2 auths, and see what I mean).
I've done PoPTop with MS-CHAPv2 on Slackware (8.1 and 9.0beta). It's really not that difficult. And it's absolutely, certainly NOT made up of crucial patches and packages. And I highly doubt that any but a specialised firewall/gateway/VPN server distribution would include PPP and PoPTop with all the needed patches. That's a very specialised app which I wouldn't expect any distro to come configured for unless it's targetted toward that niche market.
You'll notice at the slackware store that there is a wonderful paperback book licensed under the GPL entitles, "Slackware Linux Essentials". It is perhaps one of the best linux books I have ever read and am thankful to be involved with.
Mysel and many of the "BOZOs" in alt.os.linux.slackware are currently working on a revised edition to bring this book up to date with the latest release of Slackware Linux. You can take a look at our (so far meager) progress here. I encourage anyone who wants to participate to give me an e-mail, you can find my address at that link, as well as a mailing list for this project. Any contributions would be greatly appreciated.
Slack on!
Slackware, what else when it must be secure, stable, and easy?
http://media.punkmac.com/slackware-9.0-iso/
since its still hard to find at the moment, figured i'd toss it up. check those md5's as normal.
enjoy
I cut MY first teeth on Slacky. From Infomagic, we ordered a Linux pack back in 1995 that had RedHat, Slackware 3.2 and Debian. We were three friends and by chance slackware got to me.
Ive used so many distros and OSes including OpenBSD Plan9 and Darwin.
Right now for some internet servers, the two big ones I'm using are RedHat and Solaris8, but I'm just gathering experience for both since I'll certify myself for both of those. Markets like that. For server installations at companies I would go with RedHat, Debian or SuSE, but at home, by myself, with no constraints, its Slackware!
(or if its outdated like it sometimes is, knoppix!)
So hear me Volkerding! Slackware fans are out there using and recommending other distros but they remain slackware fans. The current useage of slackware is no barometer to how many techies WANT to use it. I might be helping prepare a tech school in Quetta, Pakistan, border with Afghanistan, and I'll be getting everyone started on Slackware before preparing them for certifications of RedHat, Solaris and AIX.
BTW, is there a HAZARAGI language version planned for slackware yet?
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
For my money, slack is the only way to go. It makes you learn... no handholding, no Fischer-Price interface, and for God's sake, NO RPM. I have learned more from figuring out "why doesn't this work" or "why won't this compile" then I ever could from flashy little WinXP Wizards and brainless operations like apt-get.
kwenda@backslash:~$ uptime
21:05:31 up 408 days, 10:40, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.09
We would, but apparently the right passed a law against this kindof thing...
Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. --Herbert Hoover
A colleague of mine put it best when he said of Slackware that "it doesn't try to do anything I don't want it to".
That is Slackware's beauty - if you know what you are doing, it doesn't get in the way.
I'm kind of drunk at this point, and have had a few sleeping pills, so bear with me :). I'm slightly more eloquent when I'm sober, but feel the need to give thanks now.
:).
Thanks for making Slackware. I may have initially gotten FBSD on one of my very old boxes (I'm only 21, so define "very old" as you see fit), but it was Slackware on a 486 where I became what I would consider semi-competent.
At this point I may have moved to other OS's and even distros with most of my production boxen for the sake of support contracts and package management, but I consider Slackware invaluable for the learner and recommend it to everyone who asks me "how do I learn UNIX?"
I'm happy to hear you've made another release, and have decided I will find some hardware to run it on. Slackware represents some of the happiest times I've ever had with a UNIX-like OS, and I'm determined not to forget about it anytime soon.
I'm just one guy, but I'm sure I echo thousands of others when I say, "Please keep up the good work. I owe a lot to you." Thanks man. If you're ever in Atlanta, let me know and I'll buy you and David Cantrell a beer
Game... blouses.
Slack convinced me that even I can understand a Linuxsystem. I love 9.0 and will buy it to support Slackware...
Keep it going!
cu,
Lispy
I agree. But I disagree on the GUI part. Not everyone wants to use one, sure. But with the latest XFree86 and KDE Slack is more than ready for primtetime. Personally I must say that with dropline-gnome there is probably the best (and easiest to maintain) GUI available I have seen for a Linux Desktop so far...check it out!
cu,
Lispy
Why doesn't Patrick ever make sure all official mirrors have the newest ISO before getting his server slashdotted? :( If he just uses to 3 mirrors, his server load decreases by 75%.
Happily there are also a lot of unofficial mirrors. Now I only need to get a md5sum from an official mirror.
.sig: No such file or directory
Many (if not most) of Gentoo users use those versions for weeks. Check the official statistics. I've upgraded those packages for more than a month. Some - even more time ago.
One of strong arguments of Slackware is compiling from tarballs in order to upgrade your packages (or reinstalling from new ISO). Perhaps, compiling from tarballs manually by all users until the new ISO arrives is not the way to create a good collaboration against those tarball bugs.
Gentoo Portage is that collaboration tool, infrastructure and athmosphere. It saves the knowledge of the collective, of those who has already spent time for manually debugging default tarballs (and created/updated ebuilds for them), and brings that knowledge to those who is spending their time on other tarballs (and creating/updating ebuilds for them). Besides, nobody waits new ISO unless new computer installation is required - all installations are evolving accordingly to the chosen profile.
I've been using Slackware (and RH) for years (since 1995) until last year I've converted to Gentoo, which is like a drag for me now: I am addicted to Gentoo and there is no way I am going back to neither Slackware or RH.
Slackware users, sooner or later you will be assimilated. The resistence is futile. See Gentoo (sorry, last paragraph is a silly joke, but I could not resist myself for it).
Less is more !
Integral package management is essential, in some form or other, for a reliable modern system - is a prerequisite for any production environment (with very rare exception).
'bolting on' package management does not offer you any form of guarantee against conflicts and bugs that occur due to unmatched, or poorly matched, dependencies. It is, in effect, utterly pointless.
Slackware does not have package management. Stating-the-obvious to the original poster (i.e. that you can download and install a package manager) does not change this, and as I said, would ultimately be almost entirely pointless.
Incidentally, I believe you should avoid giving the impression that apt-get is analogous to RPM, it is not. DPKG is the Debian package management system, apt-get is a tool which sit's atop the package management system. There is apt-get for RPM, it would even be possible to run apt-get atop free-bsd's ports system.
Coming back to Slackware, it's really a great thing that Pat still works on it. I often recommend it to newbies that are enough of mandrake, because it's the most appropriate moment to let them discover that they can be free again :-)
Keep up the good job, Pat ! While many people like their distro, many others love slackware !
Hey Patrick!
Why do all of my emails to you guys at the slackware store bounce back? I wanna make sure my subscription order went through!
m13b
Still around?!?!
Of course it is still around and it is really good. I use it for older or "non-standard" systems that other distros won't install on without a lot of hand-holding and research into why the next newest and greatest graphical installer for distro X keeps hanging.
Two things that are great about Slack. First, it doesn't assume much about a system, but at the same time holds your hand enough that you don't have to know the scan rates (et al) or other specs your hardware intimately unlike *cough*debian*cough* (though I really like debian). Second, it fails gracefully. If something doesn't launch or was scanned improperly (or whatever) Slack will try to bring it up. If it can't, it throws and error exception, and continues about its way as best it can. I HATE when many systems just hang on installs. THAT is the WORST behavior. Graceful failure is an art and Slackware is very good with its paint brushes.
Case in point. Work gave us these crappy IBM laptops that actually are ACER low-enders. I love IBM and hoped for a better model, but we got these. Having a dual-boot situation of 2000 and Linux woud be really helpful for the types of problems these laptops were meant to help us troubleshoot, but getting SuSE (one of my favorites), RedHat, or Debian to load was a nightmare... mainly due to the USB configuration (it uses an internal hub architecture to split the USB ports... or something... whatever, Linux doesn't like it) among other things. Slackware (the distro that I cut my teeth on, Slackware 96 from Walnut Creek) was mentioned as a possible route. After grabbing the CDs, It installed (with a much easier to use installer than I remember) without one hitch. I love it.
So... give it a try. It is stable, it looks a lot like System V Unix and it is a great little OS.
At one time, the directory in which Slackware was located was called "slakware" (no "c").
I believe that this was to satisfy MS-DOS's "8.3" filename requirement.
Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
As a student wanting to learn to use a UNIX Shell so I could get a job at this company in colorado (corporate express) I was told by the other workers to get O'Reilly's Unix in a Nutshell book (pre-animals, i think it had a referee or something). I then bought the book and it was pointless since I had nothing to test it on. I had a friend in the MIS program who had switched from CS and he recommended getting a Linux distro ('95/'96ish). I was very excited to see the Tattered Cover (best bookstore ever in Denver) had not only distros (InfoMagic sets) but excellent books on Linux. I tried debian, redhat, suse and slackware. The only one I ever liked was the slackware distro (it just made more sense).
I bought walnut creek cd's every since (until i couldn't find them anymore). I run mostly redhat now (3 rh boxes, 2 slackware) but without Patrick's work Linux would have been significantly less approchable for a lowly MIS student.
Cheer's to Patrick. Keep up the good work.
Even rednecks use linux.
well put. people get all bent out of shape before they even read that the other person had specific reasons for doing it a certain way. i think what you said sums up all this crap people are going on and on about...
if you need it small, get it small, say, slackware. if you need a desktop OS with a little less fuss and a little more fluff, go with something like redhat.
i sell illegal drugs
manual vs auto
if you want fun and control on the street, go with the stick.
if you want cruising with ease, go with the auto.
this is of course, leaving out the whole idea that ultimately, a well built auto is faster and more reliable, that part really doesnt work with my analogy, its mroe the opposite, but you get the idea, hehe.
i sell illegal drugs
There was never a SLS CD that I can remember of. At the time, even a *CD-rom drive* was a luxury :)
The distro was designed to fit on multiple floppies. You can grab a copy from here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distribu tions/sls/
A little correction: PoPToP is a PPTP server, not a pop3 server :)
I dont know but i still think Debian Linux is the only linux that i think is in top, its kernel is very very very stable and u dont need a good machine, and eveything is for free it not commercial at all and it has the true sense of want GNU is all about. Red had is trying to turn into another M$ company and so are other Linux. I have both debian and red hat systems and i prefer debain even though its GUI is not that good, I bourght a computer for 50 bucks with 300 cryix processor 13GB hardisk and 128 MB RAM and i have debian on that, my university let me put my debian server under their network and its working like charm, its been two semester that i havent seen the computer i use telnet to do my stuff from my room computer. The onlything i am scare about is hope the processor dosen't get too heated up. I request the webmaster or the author to do a special report on debian linux
you mean french people?
Reality is for those who can't face Science Fiction.