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Linux Duracell CPU Load Monitor

Nixon8Pie writes "Know those little self-testing batteries? How would you like to monitor your computers load with them? Well, now ya can. 'These throwaway testers are quite clever: they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it, in combination with a layer of thermally-activated dye that turns transparent when heated up, revealing a third layer of colored ink underneath. Because the layers are printed with varying thickness from "0%" to "100%", parts of them become yellow before others, creating a bargraph effect that varies with the current applied, the battery's body itself sinking the heat produced by the conductive ink.' Pretty cool stuff."

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  1. Text of Page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The amazing Linux Duracell CPU load monitor
    Turning an AA on-battery tester into a CPU load monitor for Linux

    You probably know those onboard testers found on Energizer and Duracell batteries : press the two white dots printed on the wrapper, and magically the battery's state appears on a yellow bar. No need for a separate battery tester, everything is included on the battery itself. While not very precise, it's good enough to know if a battery is brand new, so-so, or completely dead.

    These throwaway testers are quite clever : they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it, in combination with a layer of thermally-activated dye that turns transparent when heated up, revealing a third layer of colored ink underneath. Because the layers are printed with varying thickness from "0%" to "100%", parts of them become yellow before others, creating a bargraph effect that varies with the current applied, the battery's body itself sinking the heat produced by the conductive ink. Informative details about those testers can be found here :

    HowStuffWorks
    The Duracell Battery Tester
    AA Battery Tester

    Here are instructions to turn such a tester into a not-so-precise analog display to monitor the CPU load on a Linux system, controlled by a serial port.

    What you need
    # An AA Duracell battery with a tester. Energizer testers should work too, but I haven't tried. I got a pack of Duracell Ultra M3 batteries, product code LR6-MN1500.
    # 1 x 3V power cube
    # 1 x 2 KOhm resistor
    # 1 x 4.7 KOhm resistor
    # 1 x 10 KOhm resistor
    # 1 x 4N25 or CNY17 optocoupler
    # 1 x BC547A or 2N2222A transistor
    # 1 x TIP41C transistor
    # 2 x 1N4004 diode
    # 3 x ON/OFF switche
    # 1 x female DB9 connector
    # 1 x large-ish breadboard
    # 1 x clear plexiglas CD case
    # 100 x patience
    Instructions to make the display
    Cleanly unwrap the tester off the AA battery. Be careful not to pull on any one side too hard, or you'll warp it and it'll be that much harder to connect on the breadboard. Personally, I lift both corners, gently unroll it on 3/4 mm, then use a knife and my thumb to finish taking it off the battery with an even pull. Here's what it should look like, before trimming the warped bit of the packaging :

    Here's the really hard bit : making a somewhat reliable connection between the tester's conductive ink points and the rest of the circuitry. To do that, place the tester on the breadboard, near the upper edge, and mark out precisely the breadboard holes the wrapper's white dots fall on. Spend some time aligning the right white dot (on the "minus" side), as the patch of conductive ink there is very thin and right on the edge of the tester. The dot on the left ("plus") side is less problematic.

    To make the connectors, solder bits of "hairy" copper wire (like that found on common mains electrical cords) in the holes you marked, and leave the "hairs" sticking out where the tester will be installed. They'll help make a correct electrical contact with the tester's conductive ink. Cut out a piece of clear plexiglas from the CD case, tape one edge to the upper edge of the breadboard, and punch a small hole near the bottom edge. This makes a window to hold the tester and press it flat against the breadboad and the connector.

    Solder the circuit's components at the bottom of the breadboard, under the window (there should be about 3 cm worth of breadboard left there). Here's the circuit's schematic:

    Notice the 2 switches around the 1N4004 diodes : those diodes are there to reduce the voltage fed to the tester, but depending on the individual tester and the quality of the contacts with the conductive ink, you might need to overload the tester a bit to reach 100%, or make it more reactive. With the switches, you can short one or both diodes, adding 0.6V per shorted diode.

    Once the circuit is done, feed it 3V and close all the switches. Then carefully align the tester on

    1. Re:Text of Page by ttldkns · · Score: 5, Informative

      mirror with the pictures...
      here

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    2. Re:Text of Page by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 0
      1 x large-ish breadboard

      Broadsword? What the hell do you intend to do? Smack your PC around until it... Oh.. Breadboard! ... Nevermind...

  2. A pity... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A pity that Duracell seems to not be interested in putting these testers on their batteries or in their packaging anymore. Saw a whole rack expiring March 2010 with not a single tester.

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    1. Re:A pity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think that Energizer is putting them on their E2 batteries only.. I noticed the same thing last time I was buying batteries.

    2. Re:A pity... by KUHurdler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think its a pity for them too. Theres no quicker way to drain a battery than to use one of those little testers. Those little things would have you buying more new batteries in no time. Duracell should know that too.

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    3. Re:A pity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      duh, shops were slashdoted... all batteries w/ desters were sold out

  3. Too Much Time by ckathens · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My god I wish i had that much time on my hands. I barely have time to eat when I get home before I go to bed...

    1. Re:Too Much Time by mph · · Score: 5, Funny
      My god I wish i had that much time on my hands. I barely have time to eat when I get home before I go to bed...
      Of course, eating and sleeping fall somewhere below "posting to Slashdot" on the priority list.
    2. Re:Too Much Time by mikeleemm · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should rethink your lifestyle. Should try enjoying life. Not that making things out of a battery tester is "enjoying life." :)

    3. Re:Too Much Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 'cause he can post to slashdot from school/work/whatever.

  4. Ah-may-zing by clifgriffin · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that's how they does it. I personally use my mouth. I'm sure I'll regret it someday.

    1. Re:Ah-may-zing by proj_2501 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What the hell kind of tongue do you have that can hit both ends of a AA battery?

    2. Re:Ah-may-zing by jon787 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My friend adam used his finger to measure the power left in a VersaPak battery (used in black and decker cordless tools) he regretted it.

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    3. Re:Ah-may-zing by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      So that's how they does it. I personally use my mouth. I'm sure I'll regret it someday.

      Ok, I learned as a kid to test 9v batteries with my tongue, but how the heck do you test a AA cell with your mouth?

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    4. Re:Ah-may-zing by RealityMogul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My cousin once put two 9-volts together pos->neg. Blew up in his face. He didn't do that again. Duracell or Enegizer (don't remember which) did a presentation in his school about battery safety shortly afterwards.

    5. Re:Ah-may-zing by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      My brother took one of those industrial-grade (you know, without the current limiter) 9-volts and put it on his tongue. He told me it didn't un-curl for several minutes.

    6. Re:Ah-may-zing by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think KISS sells them.

    7. Re:Ah-may-zing by TechnoVooDooDaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

      geeks need any advantage we can get with the ladies you know....

    8. Re:Ah-may-zing by jbuck · · Score: 5, Funny
      as a kid, I found testing batteries with my tongue was pretty efficient. And as a kid, the telephone line seemed to be a pretty low voltage application- even caller ID units needed a seperate 1.5v battery to get power, so how strong could the telephone line be, right? Plus the contacts were close enough to test with my tongue so why not? I needed to see if the line was live...

      WOW! now THAT was a JOLT! I would NOT recommend it to anyone. Save your tongue and find a telephone line tester!

      as a geek, you live and learn, you live and learn, I guess.

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    9. Re:Ah-may-zing by Mex · · Score: 1
      I bet he's really popular with the ladies.


      Oh, wait, this is Slashdot...

    10. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are lucky it didn't ring at the same time.

    11. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sometimes I wonder if there's one guy out there who's the brother or cousin of about a million different people, and he is the source of all urban legends, because almost every often-repeated story about somebody doing something collosally stupid in an entertaining way begin with "my cousin" or "my brother."

    12. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My old GF used to measure my load the same way

    13. Re:Ah-may-zing by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I do know that Industrial batteries are strong, never shocked myself with the one i had back in 7th grade, the thing outlasted regular 9-volt batteries by a factor of 3 or 4... and it put out enough current even when it was weaker to outperform a regular 9 volt after it was below 95%

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    14. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      What the hell kind of tongue do you have that can hit both ends of a AA battery?

      Like this one or this one.

    15. Re:Ah-may-zing by Trigun · · Score: 1

      The one attached to the boyfriend of the luckiest girl alive?

    16. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You forget that in the southeastern United States just about everyone is a cousin.

    17. Re:Ah-may-zing by AhBeeDoi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Images of Gene Simmons keep popping into my head. I'm afraid to go to sleep now.

    18. Re:Ah-may-zing by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Inside of the upper lip to tongue.

      I can get a D battery that way. It is not too difficult. It helps to tell yourself the current makes it sterile and non gross as you make out with the battery. Otherwise it may make you feel sick to think about where it has been.

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    19. Re:Ah-may-zing by DR+SoB · · Score: 1

      Actually, that would be easy, just put the entire battery lenght wise on your tongue. My question would be, would the hell kind of tongue do you have that it can detect the sensation of 1.5V. (It takes me at least a 9V before I can feel anything at all!)

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    20. Re:Ah-may-zing by DR+SoB · · Score: 1

      Are you trying to /. whitehouse.gov or what?!

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    21. Re:Ah-may-zing by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Informative

      No kidding. Ring voltage is around 90Vac at some non-trivial current. That would have been some deep-fryed tongue.

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    22. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You'd better be careful of what you say you can fit in your mouth around here, lest you have the GNAA knocking on your door.

    23. Re:Ah-may-zing by signalgod · · Score: 1

      That remainds me of my favorite 'pick-up' line:

      Me: Hey baby, you ever had your belly button licked?
      Girl: (sarcasticly) Yeah
      Me: (dramatic pause) From the inside?

      Too bad it never works...

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    24. Re:Ah-may-zing by netringer · · Score: 4, Funny
      My cousin once put two 9-volts together pos->neg
      BEGIN --- Pathetic Geek story

      When I was a kid the Goldblatts department store would advertise very-very-cheap almost-dead-when-they-cross-the-dock loss leader imported 9 volt batteries for 9 cents.

      I bought two 10 pack boxes of them for a couple bucks, rusehd home, and connected them in series by snapping them together + to - to + ... in a lattice arrangement.

      Once I had all 20 together... and knowing that I had, *gasp* 180 VOLTS! at my disposal ... I connected some wires to from the ends to a 25 watt 117VAC household light bulb and marvelled as it lit up brightly and then dimmed as it drained the batteries completely in a minute or two.

      END --- Pathetic Geek story

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    25. Re:Ah-may-zing by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

      It probably did ring to produce such a jolt. Dial tone is something like 5VDC. Ring voltage is 96V. It is doubtful a non-ringing telephone line could induce pain worse than a 9v battery.

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    26. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, reminds me of the time I was wiring a phone line and didn't have the appropriate tool handy so I decided to strip the ends of the wires with my teeth. It's DC, so it won't jolt you so long as you don't close the circuit. Well, as I was stripping the second one, the first one made contact with my cheek. ZAP!

      What I didn't realize was, had I closed the circuit in such a manner that the current flowed through my heart, even the relatively low voltage and current running through that live phone line could have killed me.

      Don't underestimate electricity, kiddies. You can electrocute yourself with a nine volt battery if you try hard enough.

    27. Re:Ah-may-zing by venomkid · · Score: 1

      I wasn't so lucky.

      Rewiring the office phones, stripping a wire with my teeth to put it in a wall plate...

      bite. RING-IN-INGING-ING...ing...

      The guys figured what had happened and came back to find out if I was okay. Luckily I got away with just a stiff jaw...

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    28. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Typica telephone line DC voltage is 48V and ring voltage is typically 90 vrms or 130V peak but can be upt to 130V RMS. Some modems use 130V RMS rated VDR which starts to conduct at about about 190V peak. Bell system Technical Reference #61100 mentions that a worst case telephone line voltage can be 105 VDC + 130 VAC= 289 V peak. If the MOV voltage is set too low the circuit will not pass "on-hook" requirments because it leaks too much current

    29. Re:Ah-may-zing by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      Someone told me telephone lines are 40+ volts, with a current averaging around 20mA depending on the circumstances. Apply Ohm's Law as you see fit.

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    30. Re:Ah-may-zing by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I found that out the hard way when I was wiring up a jack once. That was back when I never carried a leatherman, and stripped wires with my teeth. Bad idea.

      Still didn't hurt as much as the time I was up in my attic, hanging on to an antique test set and trying to figure out which one was my newly-installed ISDN line. I'd just clipped on to what turned out to be the main voice line when my girlfriend called. I could feel every cycle of that 90 volts pulse in time with the phone's mechanical ringer...

    31. Re:Ah-may-zing by Lifewolf · · Score: 4, Funny
      Plus the contacts were close enough to test with my tongue so why not? I needed to see if the line was live...

      Once, many years ago, a friend and I were in his parent's basement racing slotcars. He put his head on the track so he could watch his car zoom away, and the track lightly shocked his ear. Of course, as a regular test-the-9-volt-on-his-tongue kind of kid, he immediately had to try sticking his tongue to the track. Idiot.

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    32. Re:Ah-may-zing by MrAngryForNoReason · · Score: 4, Funny

      It helps to tell yourself the current makes it sterile and non gross as you make out with the battery.

      Am I the only one that read that as "makes you sterile"?

    33. Re:Ah-may-zing by kableh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then you've never stripped a live telephone wire with your teeth when you were a kid.

      I assure you you're wrong about the voltage. Cisco has 48VDC options on much of their equipment for a reason.

    34. Re:Ah-may-zing by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

      I must retract my previous statement, as mr Fluke has told me that the telephone lines in this office maintain 48VDC. Do NOT attempt to lick those pretty red and green wires.

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    35. Re:Ah-may-zing by kableh · · Score: 1

      Man, and reading further down it looks like I'm not the only one...

    36. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a shame that you didn't use that NSRALPB (Not So Redundant Array of Low Power Batteries) to give your dog a good buzz.

    37. Re:Ah-may-zing by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, turns out you're right. I work for a telecom company, I should be fired.

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    38. Re:Ah-may-zing by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "geeks need any advantage we can get with the ladies you know...."

      Oh yeah, that's good, teach them to over-prepare.

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    39. Re:Ah-may-zing by rolocroz · · Score: 1

      Haha. In the eighth grade I worked with the tech crew for our school's concert, and they stored 9v batteries that way, in a really long chain from + to - to +, with 20-30 batteries in a chain. They then got me to press my fingers down really hard on the terminals at the end of the chain. That was fun, all right.

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    40. Re:Ah-may-zing by Cranston+Snord · · Score: 1

      Donald Good, is that you? That's one of my crowing achievments of high school audio tech!

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    41. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No kidding. Ring voltage is around 90Vac at some non-trivial current. That would have been some deep-fryed tongue.

      That's why you use your dick instead.

    42. Re:Ah-may-zing by Per+Wigren · · Score: 1

      What the hell kind of tongue do you have that can hit both ends of a AA battery?

      This kind of tongue? ;-)~

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    43. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny, but I don't think that will work. Your bulb is AC and your batteries are DC. Not quite the same thing.

    44. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Radio mics tend to use 9V batteries, and you tend to replace batteries early so that they don't fail on stage... which means you end up with piles of half dead batteries.

      If you connect them correctly (it doesn't seem to work with some of them, they are slightly too big and they fall off each other), you can end up with the + and - next to each other, so you can still use the tougue test on them.

      I wouldn't advise it though, 12 of them really, really hurt. More than the few 415V shocks I've had.

    45. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 48V, though the supply is constant current, so as the phone comes off hook, it drops to 5V. It still hits your toungue with a high voltage though.

    46. Re:Ah-may-zing by tjrw · · Score: 1

      -48V DC. Ring voltage is 2x that IIRC.
      Companies that sell a lot to telcos tend to offer machines that can be run from the -48V DC supply as found in your everyday CO (central office or telephone exchange as us Brits say).

      The HP blade servers seem to be built to run this way by default and you buy a power-supply to convert the mains AC if you aren't a telco.

      Tim

    47. Re:Ah-may-zing by mister+matt · · Score: 1

      This is a BS story. As an electrical engineer, this is something i have to explain to people over and over again...

      Any fresh 9V battery will shock you the same!

      For EE's, the first law is ohm's law. V=I*R. Notice, there is nothing in this equation that allows for the varying capacities of batteries, their chemistry, whether or not they are "industrial grade". There is nothing to account for what rate of discharge (current) a battery is _capable_ of. Let's set up the equation using the example of an 9V battery. I have just measured my tongue's resistance at 30 Kilo-ohms according to my multimeter.

      9V = I * 30000
      I = .3 milliamps

      Go and google "milliamps electrocution". 30 milliamps is the common level that is published, above which there is some risk of electricution. At 150mA the chance of death is significant. (A note, any industrial or consumer 9V is _capable_ of supplying at least this "dangerous" 30 mA, but only to a resistive load of less than 300 ohms. Obviously, a 9V battery applied to the tongue is not anywhere close to dangerous, though is within the range of sensation.

      Back to the point: Did it matter what kind of 9V battery was used? No!! Go get a house-sized 9V battery that is _capable_ of discharging at a rate of hundreds of amps (IF the battery is connected to a load of low enough resistance), and you would feel no difference on your tongue.

      Another thing to consider is that if you drove a 9V battery into your chest (though i imagine that could take some superhuman effort) the resistance through your internals is said to be as low as 500 ohms (or even less):

      9V = I * 500
      I = 18 milliamps

      There is some non-zero chance of electricution.

    48. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Being able to put a phallic-shaped object all the way in your mouth and play with it with your tongue without concern for how painful it might become does not get you attention with the ladies, you know...

    49. Re:Ah-may-zing by Jotham · · Score: 3, Informative

      uh, a lightbulb isn't AC -- its just a big, simple resistor that heats up and gives off light. It doesn't care which way the current flows through it.

    50. Re:Ah-may-zing by alienw · · Score: 1

      You are a misinformed idiot. No way in hell you can be an EE.

      First, the size of batteries DOES matter, because batteries are not ideal voltage sources. Larger batteries have smaller internal resistance than do smaller batteries. "Industrial" batteries might have smaller internal resistance than ordinary ones.

      If you don't believe me, try starting your car with 9 AAs. Sure, they'll put out the same voltage as a car battery -- until you connect the load.

      Second, even 100A will NOT electrocute you UNLESS it passes through the heart (in which case it will cause cardiac arrest). Of course, it would cook the area of your body the current passed through.

      So no, there is zero chance of getting electrocuted from licking a 9V battery. Even if you stick your tongue in the outlet you will probably not get electrocuted (assuming you are standing on a rubber mat when you do that). Of course, it would hurt like a bitch and you might get burns, but current passing through your tongue will not cause cardiac arrest.

    51. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once got a good zap while setting up a remote phone line for a college radio call-in show.

      I was stripping the wires (with my teeth) about to attach them to the modular jack block when the radio announcer gave out the number to call in and talk on the air.

      ZAP!

      did you know the ring voltage on a phone is really really large? It's enough to make a telephone bell ring -- the old kind with a metal clanger.

      I think it was a live call in for a lunar eclipse.

      no real harm done, but what a suprise that was

      moral: don't chew on telephone lines!

    52. Re:Ah-may-zing by Colonel+Panijk · · Score: 1

      Did you know you can fertilize your lawn with used motor oil?

      I hope that was a joke. Used motor oil contains all sorts of nasty toxic hydrocarbons and heavy metals. You definitely don't want to put it on the lawn!

    53. Re:Ah-may-zing by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      I still test 9V with my tongue. After testing several dozen batteries over time you learn what is good and what is weak, to a pretty accurate degree.

      Anyways, I did the same as you with the phone line. It didn't really hurt but it sure surprised me!

      And don't do it with cable TV coax either, with all this digital phone/tv/internet stuff those wires can crank out some voltage now too.

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    54. Re:Ah-may-zing by K.+Engel · · Score: 1

      Hate to break it to you, but usually when both terminals are closed on a phone line, it's considered off hook. And Call Waiting is auditory. So don't think that would cause any line spikes either.

    55. Re:Ah-may-zing by mister+matt · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, I am not an idiot.

      In the context of the discussion, size doesn't matter. because the internal resistance differences from 9V battery to 9V battery make for a insignificant difference in the amount of current passing through one's tongue. At a load of 30kohms (like i measured on my tongue), a 9V battery (even a "consumer" one) will not drop more than a few hundreths of a volt. Try it and see.

      It's true, AC is much more dangerous than DC, I was oversimplifying.

      >So no, there is zero chance of getting
      >electrocuted from licking a 9V battery.

      Where did I say there was?

      As far as being killed from a 9V battery, consider this:

      http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-50 .h tml

      In this case, it is DC, but consider that at the sudden application of the current, even DC creates high frequency transient that could disrupt one's heart, similar to the way AC does. That my theory of what happened in this rare instance.

    56. Re:Ah-may-zing by jbuck · · Score: 1
      actually, cable tv coax uses an RF carrier so there should rarely be a voltage present, unless it's being injected specifically to power a network inferface device of some sort. In which case, you're right, probably not a good idea to lick it. I've seen proposed implimentations of between 60v and 90v deliverd to a demarc over coax

      However, I have seen buildings on several occasions that had a hot ground because of an electrical problem (or an amateur electrician). In those cases, locally grounded coax will have the whole 110v AC ready to shock the shite out of you when you touch it.

      quoth Judy Jetson's fav rock star:

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    57. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow...You had caller ID units when you were a KID? I think I was well out of high school when those came out.

      Now I feel old.

    58. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you make someone film you while you lick wires connected to each pole of a car battery?

    59. Re:Ah-may-zing by adamjaskie · · Score: 2, Funny

      It was only 3.6 volts...

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    60. Re:Ah-may-zing by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      Holy hell, I've done that too. But only once. Next time, why don't I talk about the time I tried to see if a laptop power supply was working by licking it?

    61. Re:Ah-may-zing by richie2000 · · Score: 2
      Mr Fluke is your friend.

      Once in college, the moron (for many, many reasons) physics teacher pulled out a fist-sized capacitor and dared one of the pupils up front to lick the terminals. I just barely managed to stop him by ripping the capacitor out of the teacher's hands and stick it to the metal crank of the pencil sharpener instead. It fused to it. Everyone suddenly went very, very pale.

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    62. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you go far enough back, you and I are cousins. Makes me want to kill myself, sometimes.

    63. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's best to note before you read my pathetic story that i am (and was at this time too) a qualified electronic engineer.

      Once, while in the shower, the power went off at my house, so I, fully wet and dripping - dressed only in a towel (barefoot) went out to the meter box and started pulling fuses - without turning off the mains, of course. Now where I live (and probably everywhere but I don't know) appliances have one circuit, lights have another. Only the lights circuit was down - appliances was still up and happy. So when I pulled the fuse out and my finger slipped into the socket... I can tell you there's nothing like it. It seriously hurts.

    64. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny, but I think you're an idiot. Whoever heard of an "AC lightbulb"? Hilarious!!

    65. Re:Ah-may-zing by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      The only problem is you assume that your tongue's resistance stays constant. Once the current starts passing, the resistance drops, increasing the current-carrying capacity: hence the battery supplies more current. Try it.

    66. Re:Ah-may-zing by Dragon218 · · Score: 1

      I was installing a splitter for my DSL connection at my house. I needed to strip a phone wire, and since it was getting rather dark outside, I didn't want to go in and get a wire stripper. I had always stripped really small gauge wires with my teeth before, so I thought, "what's the harm?"

      Fill in the ending for yourself.

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    67. Re:Ah-may-zing by jxe · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ! What was that guy doing in a classroom?

    68. Re:Ah-may-zing by jsdkl · · Score: 1

      I once stuck a 9 volt in my pocket, not thinking about until a while later when I was sitting down and it shorted through the change in my pocket. It got hotter and hotter and I thought I was going crazy until I checked my pocket and found a very warm battery.

    69. Re:Ah-may-zing by jsdkl · · Score: 1

      I was installing track lighting in an office with a suspended ceiling. Once in a while I would get a pretty nice jolt. Took all day to figure out what was going on. Turned out to be a telephone cable had shorted to the metal ceiling grid and where the paint was worn away it would shock.

      I guess it could be a neat feature... just plug your telephone into the ceiling wherever you want :-)

    70. Re:Ah-may-zing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's essentially a copil internally
      therfore i would expect it's reactance at 50hz to be somewhat higher than it's dc resistance

      ie a voltage of 110vdc would give more power into it than 110v rms ac

      exactly how much is hard to say :)

    71. Re:Ah-may-zing by rolocroz · · Score: 1

      No, never heard of him.

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    72. Re:Ah-may-zing by richie2000 · · Score: 1
      What was that guy doing in a classroom?

      As far as I could tell, depriving someone worthy of a lot of oxygen.

      Once he wanted to show us the centripetal force so he took a piece of string, ran it through a glass cylinder and tied weights to both ends. When he started swinging one of the weights around, it pulled the other one upwards...

      ..until the glass cylinder edge cut the string and sent the rotating weight on a tangential flight across the classroom. Fortunately, no one was hit.

      We had him in math, too. When we were studying statistics, the subject of playing cards came up and we had to explain the concept to him. He thought the cards were different colours like blue, yellow, green and red -- not diamonds, cloves, hearts and spades. He was in his mid-forties at the time.

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    73. Re:Ah-may-zing by sYkSh0n3 · · Score: 1

      I take it you've never watched Fight Club?

  5. No more for Duracell or others? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't seen a tester for months, on any kind of battery. I don't think they are being made anymore, does anyone else know otherwise? I thought a gauge like that would be great for cpu physical temperature as well.

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    1. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by superpeach · · Score: 4, Informative

      They dont seem to have them on Duracell plus, but Duracell M3 batteries do. I guess its just something you get with the top of the range types :)

    2. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by Urox · · Score: 1, Informative

      How did this post get modded up? Read the article!

      This isn't a temp sensor. It is measuring electrical current, not heat.

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    3. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by teeker · · Score: 4, Informative

      err...this is a project to show system load, not temperature.

      Plus, since when is a clever hack not worthwhile just for the sake of doing it? I think it's neat. Next to worthless, but definitely neat.

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    4. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by DChristensen · · Score: 1

      And why the heck is anyone doing a dumb project like this? I mean sure, it's neat, but its entirely impractical. You can have software monitor the temperatures reported by your motherboards built in temperature sensors. Or go further and put a digital LCD in the front of your case that shows the temp. Using the battery thing is quite silly.

      Ahem...

      The smart thing to do is not always the right thing to do. If you do the right thing, you are damn smart. -Me

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    5. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is slashdot -- Can't find one? Make your own fucking tester.

    6. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      It's neat. That's all that matters.

      Probably looks best on a computer without a chassis.

    7. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by sl0wp0is0n · · Score: 1

      I thought a gauge like that would be great for cpu physical temperature as well.

      I think once you get this one working, a heat sensor would be fairly easy to make. You can read the temperature of the CPU (Linux ACPI provides a way to do it), and communicate that to the sensor. I think the file to read is /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature. I'm not sure but I think this file provides temperature of the system, which triggers the fans in the system. I'm not sure if there are separate sensors for CPU or not.

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    8. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      err...this is a project to show system load, not temperature.

      Ahh, but one is dependant (and caused by) the other; so wouldn't this be both?

      I could imagine some company deciding to put these gauges on their heatsinks... that would be cool...

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    9. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by srvivn21 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Quote the poster:
      How did this post get modded up? Read the article!

      This isn't a temp sensor. It is measuring electrical current, not heat.

      Quote the article:
      ...they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it, in combination with a layer of thermally-activated dye that turns transparent when heated up, revealing a third layer of colored ink underneath.


      Perhaps it could be used as a temperature guage after all?
    10. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA RTFA
      Sometimes reading the f***in article twice helps. If you did, you'd notice:

      they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it, in combination with a layer of thermally-activated dye that turns transparent when heated up, revealing a third layer of colored ink underneath.

      But seriously, what are the moderators doing?

    11. Re:No more for Duracell or others? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      i guess it would be trivial to change the code to show the temp from the in-die sensor.

      or show the time of the day..

      or whatever..

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  6. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They must be using the batteries to run the site. Slashdotted already.

  7. Instantly slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    less than 5 posts and the French webserver has already surrendered.

    1. Re:Instantly slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      boo ya! I knew I made the right choice opening the article instead of going for first post! HA HA I can see all the pretty pictures, I WIN IT!

      ps the admin is pcoupard at easyconnect.fr, so send him money to buy a bigger webserver. Or if you just want to mock the french.

      And more importantly, the link to download the driver for the monitor is http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/om.the/web/duracell _cpumon/download/duracell_cpumon-0.0.1.tar.gz, which of course will already be slashdotted by the time you click on it.

  8. I hope he doesn't have one of those on the server by Peeet · · Score: 5, Funny

    that's hosting that website, or this could be the first slashdotting to start a small fire.

    Are you happy now? Y'all have slashdotted a battery.

  9. Marketing Genius by Speare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When those little battery testers first came out, I thought it was pure marketing genius. Not for the convenience, but for the self-depleting consumable. It ranks right up there with Caller ID.

    "Here's a battery which you can wear out, even before you put it in your flashlight! You don't have to worry about shelf-life or temperature anymore, just squeeze the ends and you have a dead battery. No muss, no fuss, just two minutes from package to trashcan."

    The Caller ID, in its original implementation, though... sheer brilliance. "Let's make them pay to see the information that's already sent to the the switchbox! And if they don't like that, make them pay to HIDE the information on the switchbox. But that doesn't really hide it, it just flags it, so make them pay to see the HIDDEN information, or make them pay to REALLY hide it. We can go on like this forever."

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    1. Re:Marketing Genius by TampaTim · · Score: 1

      The Caller ID, in its original implementation, though... sheer brilliance. "Let's make them pay to see the information that's already sent to the the switchbox! And if they don't like that, make them pay to HIDE the information on the switchbox. But that doesn't really hide it, it just flags it, so make them pay to see the HIDDEN information, or make them pay to REALLY hide it. We can go on like this forever."

      That's exactly why I switched to Vonage. Free Caller ID, call transfer, etc.
    2. Re:Marketing Genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      free lag time, free sound compression artifacts, free echo...

  10. New Yorkers rejoicing with this news... by segment · · Score: 1

    Now we can all buy more bootleg $1.00 packs of batteries from vendors riding the subways to test our CPU loads!

    1. Re:New Yorkers rejoicing with this news... by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Those meters are only painted on. I supppose you could instead buy a bunch and paint the yellow meter at different levels, then try flip them like an animation book to get "live readings".

    2. Re:New Yorkers rejoicing with this news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an easy way to test those subway batteries: Take them to your favorite sporting event and wing them at the opposing team. If you hit someone, the battery was good. If it misses, it was bad.

  11. How about a /. effect monitor? by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's neat, but rather than skin a battery, I wonder if those same things which were, and maybe still are, in the plastic packaging would be easier to work with

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    1. Re:How about a /. effect monitor? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Testers in the plastic packaging are even rarer than the ones found on the batteries themselves these days.

      That is, rare as new. I probably have one or two in a dresser drawer or box somewhere.

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  12. A Mirror by trp642 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... to keep our French friend's bandwidth down...
    http://home.cfl.rr.com/fnords/duracell_cpumon/
    I hope my ISP doesn't kill me... ;)

    1. Re:A Mirror by Brigadoon · · Score: 1

      And just in case RoadRunner kills him...

      http://www.me.mtu.edu/~aeshirey/duracell_cpumon/

  13. Mirror by E1ven · · Score: 4, Informative

    In case the site shuts down under the load, I've mirrored the page (including the Video,) to our SQ7.org project server.

    Mirror

    Good luck, and a cool project. A Hacker in the coolest sense of the word.

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  14. /. effect tester by binaryDigit · · Score: 1

    So you rig your webserver to put out an increasing electrical charge as hits go up, you then have a nice visual indicator of when you're being /.'ed, just like their French page.

  15. When I was a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only battery affordable meter we had was for 9 volt batteries. And it was your tongue! And we liked the small spark it gave you to tell you it was working!

    1. Re:When I was a kid by ZHaDoom · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember putting two nine volts together and placing them in my sock. Keeped my feet warm while I walked uphill(both ways) to school and back in 6 feet of snow.

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    2. Re:When I was a kid by dustmote · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, that seems like an interesting method of beating the heat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that also give you a chance of much badness happening in your general foot area?

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    3. Re:When I was a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't ever try that with a rechargeable.
      Or indeed do, and let us know how much it hurts ;)

    4. Re:When I was a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, you shouldn't do it with a car battery... because it can make your tongue explode.

    5. Re:When I was a kid by ZHaDoom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only a 1" x 4" area. The rest is fine.

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    6. Re:When I was a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wow, that seems like an interesting method of beating the heat. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that also give you a chance of much badness happening in your general foot area?

      I'd guess so. I once put a 9V in my pocket to put into a dead radio at work. On the way, I felt a slight itch on my leg and scratched it. It came back and I scratched it again. Then it became obvious it wasn't an itch; it was a hotspot. My keys had come across the terminals. By the time I got it out of my pocket, it was too hot to hold in my hand for more than a few seconds.

    7. Re:When I was a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a crock. Clearly you never went to school. Keeped, pah.

    8. Re:When I was a kid by ZHaDoom · · Score: 1

      No joke, It wasent directly on my skin but it sill got real hot. But I would not recommend it, I hear they could leak or explode. (Just because i went to school, doesnt mean I was awake at school =)

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    9. Re:When I was a kid by ZHaDoom · · Score: 1

      Ah you where dissing my speeling =) Im a programmer I Cant speel.

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  16. Ah that's why by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1, Redundant

    they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it Now I know why I got first degree burns on the tips of my fingers from using the tester too long.

  17. Well, by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Wonder what reading the meter is giving now that the site is /.ed.

    The duracell bunny is destroyed by the slashdot holy handgranade, and withing 3 posts. Oh the sweet irony

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    1. Re:Well, by shadow303 · · Score: 1

      Ummm... Energizer is the one with the bunny, not Duracell (the copper top).

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    2. Re:Well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the ENERGIZER bunny!

    3. Re:Well, by tornado2258 · · Score: 1

      Duracell has a bunny too

    4. Re:Well, by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Actually, Duracell had bunnies first. They'd demonstrate the long life of their batteries by having a bunch of identical battery-powered toys, all but one slowing down and stopping. The remaining one was revealed to having a Duracell battery.

      The first Energizer Bunny commercial was a parody of the Duracell commercials, where the bunnies were playing snare drums, the last Duracell bunny was left, then its eyes got big as the Energizer bunny with its huge BASS DRUM rolled into view.

      Showing off that not only did it last longer, but had a bigger drum and was mobile as well! And could even do flourishes with the sticks.

      I really shouldn't feel old explaining this.

      I thought once of taking the parody further: have the Energizer bunny turn around to see the other side of the bass drum and reveal a Timex watch being struck by the other mallet, and the tagline voiceover, "Timex: It takes a licking and keeps on ticking, and ticking, and ticking, and...!" But then, does Timex even make watches that "tick" anymore?

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  18. The obvious puns by thewiz · · Score: 5, Funny

    "His design is utterly revolting!"
    "Shocking!"
    "If I add more power, can I overclock it?"
    "An electrifying hack!"
    "More power to him."

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    1. Re:The obvious puns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ohm my, watt a clever hack.

    2. Re:The obvious puns by aanand · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Does it play Ogg?"

    3. Re:The obvious puns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Gah, I don't have the energy for this.

    4. Re:The obvious puns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just imagine monitoring a beowulf cluster with some of these!

    5. Re:The obvious puns by thelasttemptation · · Score: 1

      I guess the current mods and users don't understand how to generate a proper charged pun without it being grounded...

    6. Re:The obvious puns by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 1
      If you keep up the bad puns:
      • I've got a tremendous capacity for violence!
      • I'll commit assault and battery on your scrawny ass!
      • I may then be caught, charged in circuit court, and kept in a cell.
      • I will eventually be paroled, i.e. I will be discharged and permitted to go ohm.
      Thank you, I'll be here all week.
  19. Useless on a quickly varying load. by stephenisu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find this to be amusing and all, however pretty pointless. These strips take almost a full two seconds to register a full change. Spikes in usage (good to know sometimes) will be completely missed. Plus I am willing to bet you need to recalibrate it often if your room temp changes by more than a few degrees.

    I would have RTFA, however it seemed to be down at the moment.

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    1. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Funny
      Your points are valid, but to quote the article:
      There you have it : the most imprecise, slow, power-hungry, finicky and unreliable CPU load monitor in the world. Aren't you happy ? :-)
    2. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I find this to be amusing and all, however pretty pointless. These strips take almost a full two seconds to register a full change. Spikes in usage (good to know sometimes) will be completely missed. Plus I am willing to bet you need to recalibrate it often if your room temp changes by more than a few degrees.

      So.. what's stopping you from putting up a really cool analog meter. I bet that could look pretty retro trick if done right with a decent meter, you could probably pick up at a local hamfest (it is hamfest season, isn't it? :-)

      I think watching a needle swing back and forth would be pretty entertaining, but then I read slashdot a lot ...

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    3. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by babyrat · · Score: 2, Informative

      spikes in CPU usage generally don't matter when you are monitoring general CPU load. Spikes are expected, and they happen, and if the processor is mostly running at an acceptable load (like under 50%) they don't matter. If the spikes get frequent enough to have an effect on the temperature of the monitor, then they are probably something to be concerned about. You are correct in that it's good to know about them 'sometimes' but most of the time it isn't.

      The load avg. on unix machines filter out 'spikes' - so does this device.

      Now if you were using something like this on anything important, I'd say you are crazy, but it's a very interesting concept.

    4. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      True, download LCDproc, take 3 minutes to hook up a $3.00 16X2 lcd from ebay,eio.com,or all-electronics to your useless parallel port and monitor many more things easier and winth more "cool!" factor coming from people looking at your machine.

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    5. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by pla · · Score: 1

      take 3 minutes to hook up a $3.00 16X2 lcd

      Damn, you beat me to it...

      Actually, I had an LED bar in mind, rather than an LCD (better visibility in the dark), but same idea - More precise, costs about the same as a 4-pack of batteries, instant response, and WAY less kludgy.

      Still, I have to admit, finding a use for the testers on a dead battery has a fairly high level of geeky coolness.

    6. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      You'd need to watch it all the time if you wanted to see spikes. It displays current load, not a graph. Plus 2s to reach final value, wit logarythmically decreasing speed. It will get halfway in 0.5s.

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    7. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by afidel · · Score: 1

      Actually you can think of that as a "feature". This way you get average system load over time without having to do any funky math, the temperature curve is smooth so little blips will average themselves out. I knew studying programming would work out some day =)

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    8. Re:Useless on a quickly varying load. by japhie · · Score: 1
      There you have it : the most imprecise, slow, power-hungry, finicky and unreliable CPU load monitor in the world. Aren't you happy ? :-)

      Not really. There could be 200W lightbulb instead of plain battery level meter. *Then* it would be *really* imprecise, slow, power-hungry, finicky and unreliable.

  20. Ob American Smart*ss French putdown .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ... I guess those French servers just gave up when they saw all those requests coming. badda bing

    Sorry about that.

    1. Re:Ob American Smart*ss French putdown .... by Beek · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that a similar comment got a +5 funny. Oh the hilarity.

  21. no more-ness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can probably guess why they don't exist any more, although this is just a guess. It cost too much time and money to put the mechanism that measures life-left into each individual battery, for free.

  22. Or you can use software... by moquist · · Score: 3, Informative

    such as Gkrellm, which is available for Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, Net BSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, and Windows... if you install gtk, gdk, glib, etc.

    But a cheap hardware solution *is* pretty cool.

    Now, if you could hook one of those Duracell indicators up to your date for the evening...

    1. Re:Or you can use software... by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      Anything's better than the guy who bought an LED display for his case, then kept the server on the top shelf of his closet...

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    2. Re:Or you can use software... by ktulu1115 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually I was thinking a mix of the two. Take his project but remove the el-cheapo duracell battery tester and replace with a VU meter or something similiar. A schematic similar to this would work, although either the voltage supplied would have to be upped or some resistors need to be changed on that schematic, either way it would work and actually look somewhat decent (and respond in realtime too!)

      Put it on top of your stereo or in your cabinet and be the uber-geek (mine's right next to my PC so it makes sense :) Apologies for the image, it a few years old - when I used to actually run Windows.

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    3. Re:Or you can use software... by ShadowDrake · · Score: 1

      An even simpler project could be done if parallel ports are available.

      Driver that converts the load to one of 8 value ranges, raises one pin on the port for the value range in play, lowers the rest. The port value is latched and used to drive an LED.

      Gideontech.com has a project for a hard-disc VU meter; with an analogue CPU-use signal, it could be adapted

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    4. Re:Or you can use software... by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      Anything's better than the guy who bought an LED display for his case, then kept the server on the top shelf of his closet...

      I bet the display was screaming bloody murder about the heat!

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    5. Re:Or you can use software... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Girls would need to put these CPU load indicators on their male dates, because we know how confused girls make us on a routine basis! If the duracell strip hikes up she has to stop making all those subtle hints.

  23. new discovery by sinucus · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I just found the most amazing tool to do the same thing as this. I know it's a lot more complicated but I think us slashdotters can figure it out. "top" or for you windoze people, ctrl-shift-esc. Lots o' luck to ya.

    1. Re:new discovery by tgd · · Score: 1

      Damn, I've been stuck using winblows at work for four years and never knew that.

      And to think they say there's never any interesting stuff on /. any more...

    2. Re:new discovery by sinucus · · Score: 1

      and i got modded troll AND flamebait for that one. sheesh!

  24. Missing tester on batteries by derphilipp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Many of you complain about the missing tester on newer batteries - but be honest
    Who ever used these things ?
    I for one did't and I don't know anyone who did.
    Whats the point in measuring the power of throw-away batterys anyway ? On rechargeable batterys this would be useful but not on throw-aways....

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    1. Re:Missing tester on batteries by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      It's useful for us non-engineers who don't have The Knack to know intuitively which battery needs replacing in the remote.

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    2. Re:Missing tester on batteries by mindstrm · · Score: 1

      What kind of geek are you.

      The testers are good for when you open up a drawer / box / bag / shoe / shelf and find a pile of batteries.. and you want to know which one is strong enough to run your latest gizmo!

    3. Re:Missing tester on batteries by stephenisu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you are cussing and swearing at your kids new christmas toy that doesn't want to work, and you need to know if its the batteries or the toy, but you are at the grandparents and have no voltmeter, they come in handy for knowing if you need to go and buy new ones.

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    4. Re:Missing tester on batteries by stephenisu · · Score: 1

      As one of those engineers...
      Reading your manual will reveal that you should replace ALL of them at the SAME time. An imbalanced load can (probably won't, but can) cause battery leakage, explosions (not likely, unless you have multiple lithium ion rechargables, and you sit on it for ten hours simultaneously shorting the whole circut, in which case you are a nutjob (for buying rechargable lithiums for a remote (unless it has an LCD screen) not for sitting on the remote (unless is does have an LCD screen).

      I like parenthesis.

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    5. Re:Missing tester on batteries by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      no way, the ones on the batteries suck, they take a while and after checking a few batteries you fingers are all chewed up from the deathgrip the testers require to activate, Just get a real tester from radio shack ($5 at MOST) and instantly check any battery (including button cells)

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    6. Re:Missing tester on batteries by mindstrm · · Score: 1

      That's why 9v batteries don't have the tester on them.

  25. Old School ... by SuperDuG · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ... Back when I was a kid slashdot used to have all sorts of crack pot stories where if it involved a computer or linux in some way it was posted to slashdot ... thats the way it was and we liked it.

    This is exactly what brings me to the nostalgia of what I like to see on slashdot, a story about some guy who attached some wires to a battery tester and then made a LINUX program to pop out the correct varying voltage to display on the battery itself.

    This is cool, and you want to know why? Its innovative, sometimes we go so long and things start to get stagnant that it takes these wonderfully clever people to come up with a new innovative way to do something. Is it practical, well no, but that doesnt mean its not cool.

    I for one would like to see more things like this and an SCO category so I can start to delete those stories from the front page. I like the true hacker stories, its fun to see how people are innovative. Really was something pleasant to read.

    Good Show!!

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    1. Re:Old School ... by FurryFeet · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      For someone who has been here a long time, you don't seem to have mastered Slashdot. There IS a SCO category. It is just called "Caldera".
      So, go here .
      Go down to "Exclude stories from the homepage", and under "Topics" check the box next to Caldera.
      Then go all the way down and click "Save".
      There. No more SCO stories for you.

    2. Re:Old School ... by Cee · · Score: 1

      Back when I was a kid slashdot used to have...

      Posts like this remind me of that I'm getting old. Oh well...

    3. Re:Old School ... by mnewton32 · · Score: 1

      Back when I was a kid slashdot used to have... Funny how you've got a 7 digit user id... :)

      (I do agree with it all though)

    4. Re:Old School ... by bbkingadrock · · Score: 1

      "134989".... six digits

    5. Re:Old School ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 6 digits.

    6. Re:Old School ... by elpapacito · · Score: 1

      Well said ! Let me add that sometimes apparent wastes of time and resources (like this otherwise nice duracell hack which btw should make duracell marketing have an orgasm, what about sending some tech toy to that guy Duracell ?) can lead to unexpected discoveries.

      For instance Joseph Prisley back in 1772 was "playing" with a candle and jar and noticed that the candle didn't burn anymore after a while if you covered it with a jar (big deal, we say today..but back then it was). Then he placed a plant (dunno why he tought about putting a plant in there) in the jar , later a mouse and a plant and a candle in the jar and discovered that WITH the plant the mouse lived and the candle burned.

      Photosynthesis was under his very eyes , he tought that some gas was in there with particular properties (oxygen, but he didn't know).

      Later Lavosier _repeated_ his experiment and named the gas oxygen.

      All of this because some guy back in 1772 was playing with jars, mouses and plants and he probably looked like a crazy fool to the bystanders.

    7. Re:Old School ... by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      yes

      more hacks

      less heavy acquisitions and YRO

      I agree

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  26. Neat. But WHY? by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, this is neat, but WHY?

    This same circuit could be adapted to:

    Vary the brightness of a small light bulb.
    Vary the speed of a small motor.
    Drive an old-style swing needle meter.
    (Variant of above) Drive a tachometer.

    Heck, why not interface to a slot-car and have it go faster the higher your load average is?

    1. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Cyno01 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually that last one would be pretty cool, slotcar case mod and all... But yeah, they have swing needle and tach versions of this sort of thing.

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    2. Re:Neat. But WHY? by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "Heck, why not interface to a slot-car and have it go faster the higher your load average is?"

      With a desktop case, stick a small circular track to the top. Pull 5 or 12v off the power supply. Or re-write for the USB and pull power out of that.

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    3. Re:Neat. But WHY? by eaddict · · Score: 1

      > Heck, why not interface to a slot-car and have it go faster the higher your load average is?
      How? Cool idea! Maybe even on the drivers stations.
      Slot Cars in St. Louis, MO

      --
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    4. Re:Neat. But WHY? by KanshuShintai · · Score: 1

      The answer to "why" is the same reason you just posted all of those other ideas, which many people here are now going to go try.

      The slot-car thing seems fun, too. You could race monitors against each other.

    5. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, i plan to write a program that interfaces with the tachometer (an autogage with a shift light) for car racing programs. Why?????

      just to do it.

    6. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      After you hook up the slot car system , you can find a spare windows pc and run this http://www.gregorybraun.com/LapTimer.html to time how fast the cars are going. Then you'll have a digital readout which you can correlate back to the load on your linux box.

    7. Re:Neat. But WHY? by sleepingsquirrel · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't the slot car go slower whith the higher load average?

    8. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Chester+K · · Score: 1

      Drive an old-style swing needle meter.

      Now that's a CPU load meter I'd like to have.

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    9. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My 4 track Tyco slockcar adapter says 15v .5A, so you'd probably want to use a triac to control the power from the stock adapter, instead of using the computer's supply. (if you are serious)

    10. Re:Neat. But WHY? by Zerbey · · Score: 1

      Damnit... I was already going to be wasting half my weekend building this battery meter thing and now you've gone and got me booked for at least the next 3 weekends.

      My wife's gonna kill you!

  27. System Monitor by milgr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For cpu load average, I run System Monitor. It displays a pretty bar graph in the panel at the stop of my screen.

    Cost for running system monitor: $0.0
    Time for setting it up: 00:00:30

    Cost for Duracell load monitor: $9.95
    Time for setting up: 04:21:23

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    1. Re:System Monitor by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cost for running system monitor: $0.0
      Time for setting it up: 00:00:30

      Cost for Duracell load monitor: $9.95
      Time for setting up: 04:21:23

      Slashdotting the French: Priceless.

    2. Re:System Monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying there are more effective ways of monitoring system load? Thanks for enlightening us, Mr.-Freakin'-Obvious.

      Out of curiosity, did you hear the whooshing noise as the point rushed past your empty head?

    3. Re:System Monitor by dk.r*nger · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are some things in life, that are simple, obvious and easy to do.

      For everything else - there's Slashdot.

    4. Re:System Monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you think they use analog speedometers in cars because digital ones are hard to make, or because they look vastly cooler?

  28. Re:Bye Bye. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you die, can I have your sister?

  29. you're no genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Here's a battery which you can wear out, even before you put it in your flashlight! You don't have to worry about shelf-life or temperature anymore, just squeeze the ends and you have a dead battery. No muss, no fuss, just two minutes from package to trashcan."

    what are you talking about?

    You can't drain the whole battery with a voltage tester in two minutes. It would take half an hour if you just shorted it out to drain it.

    OBVIOUSLY, the tester is there to check to see if those batteries you threw in the drawer months ago are still good.

    DUH

    1. Re:you're no genius by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it is a truly inefficient battery tester. It's an exaggeration to say 2 minutes, but the drain isn't going to be a lot lower than a short circuit, and it's possible that the extra drain does cause enough extra sales to make it beneficial from more than just a marketing point of view.

    2. Re:you're no genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From a marketing point of view, the trick is that people will toss the battery when it reads 20% or something, rather than run it all the way down.

    3. Re:you're no genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alkalines drop off very fast at the end if life, so it's not the problem you seem to think it is. I'm not sure what your "20%" means. From looking at the pictures of the back of the gauge and voltage drop off curves, I'd say it's pretty fair. For a real drop off cursed, check here.

    4. Re:you're no genius by swb · · Score: 1

      20%? I can see your typical "nothing but the best for me" yuppie mom tossing the whole package if it doesn't read nearly 100%.

  30. Temperature-sensitive Leucodyes by G4from128k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The activiation temperature of battery testers is a pleasantly toasty 100-120 F.

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    1. Re:Temperature-sensitive Leucodyes by ndim · · Score: 1

      With this temperature range... why not attach some battery tester to a CPU heatsink?

    2. Re:Temperature-sensitive Leucodyes by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Actually, he did put it on an old P1 heatsink. It had higher latency, but also higher accuracy.

  31. that reminds me of a funny story... by morcheeba · · Score: 5, Funny

    one day I noticed the icemaker in our freezer made the sound it does before it drops the cubes into the bucket. So, I looked in to see if I could watch it work... then I noticed that an extra metal tube went under the ice cube mold. I thought, wow, that's kinda neat - they must circulate a little extra freon through there to make sure the cubes are super-cold*. So, I decided to touch it to see how cold it was. It turns out that it wasn't a cooler, but a heating element that was used to slightly melt the edge of the cubes to release them from the mold. And it was very hot.

    That's how I burned my finger in a freezer.

    (* I was thinking that didn't make too much sense because I knew icemakers were often add-on features, and replumbing the freon would be too complicated to do for an accessory)

    1. Re:that reminds me of a funny story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumbass, probly woulda gotten burned if it had been freon too.

    2. Re:that reminds me of a funny story... by TheMysteriousFuture · · Score: 1

      HAHAHA..I had the EXACT same thing happen to me...still got a little mark on my finger from it.

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    3. Re:that reminds me of a funny story... by Kilgore_Trout · · Score: 1

      Thank god for this thread - now I know there are at least two other people out there in the world that are stupid as I when it comes to ice makers. It burned off a strip of my fingerprint that stayed smooth for almost a month.
      I subsequently have great respect for my icemaker now.

  32. Re:Wow by fafaforza · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hope he didn't build a set to measure his throughput. It might overflow and explode.

  33. Something cooler... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is OK, but the various Linux LCD projects make for cooler displays.

    Check out:
    http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/screenshots.ph p3

  34. Tongue as battery tester. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Funny

    You put a wet finger on the negative end and touch the postive end with your tongue. For 1.5 volt batteries only. Don't try this on 90 volt batteries.

    1. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      I used to test 9V "transistor" batteries this way. Dip the tip of your tongue across both terminals, that little tingle tells you the battery still has juice.

      I've never had the opportunity or incliniation to attempt this oral test method on any of the cylindrical styles (AAA - D)

      BTW, what ever happened to single-A and B batteries?

      AAA - little tiny remote batteries
      AA - smaller, walkman sized
      C - medium, tape decks, etc (good for hiding in your fist to hit someone)
      D - full-size flashlight size

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    2. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Jahf · · Score: 2, Funny

      90 volts? That would fry some braces :)

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    3. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      When's the last time you saw a C cell used in anything besides a dildo?

      I'm serious.

      Thats the only reason they exist.

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    4. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      You can still get them, but you have to go to a place like Digi-Key. They're just not all that common.

    5. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by edhall · · Score: 2

      Don't be silly. Kid's toys use mountains of them.

      -Ed
    6. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      er, that's Digi-Key

    7. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 1

      Smaller flashlights too - the large ones are D-cell sized, but ones for smaller hands run on C. And then the uber-portable ones on AA.

    8. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Funny

      you're doing something wrong - mine uses D-cells ;-)

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      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    9. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Necrobruiser · · Score: 5, Funny

      You really should reconsider what "toys" your kids are playing with... ;)

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    10. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BTW, what ever happened to single-A and B batteries?

      If I'm not mistaken A and B batteries were for way old portable (tube-type) radios. A was something like 6 volts for filaments and B was about 90 volts for plate voltage. The Bs were nearly the size of a quart of milk.

    11. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Absurd+Being · · Score: 1

      Just the Nimbus 2000. Wait a minute...

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    12. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I tested a 63-volt battery this way once. It was in the same packaging as a 9 volt lantern battery.

      I've done dumber things, but not many. I've survived all of them so far, but that smacks of statistical fluke.

    13. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (I forget the source of this joke)

      Have you heard of the dildo that uses 9 D batteries?

      That's not a dildo, it's offshore drilling!

    14. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by mino · · Score: 1
      If I'm not mistaken A and B batteries were for way old portable (tube-type) radios.

      They're still around, along with E, F, G, J, N, and 6, according to Cecil.

    15. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try the AAAA and the 2/3AAAA. Them's real small.

    16. Re:Tongue as battery tester. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not kidding, I work in an Adult Video Store and we sell C-cell batteries with every toy purchase. When I worked in a hardware store, we didn't sell one.

  35. OT: Your sig... by GTRacer · · Score: 1
    I always wondered if you worked at a new branch of Electronic Arts ;)

    GTRacer
    - Nice Python ref, BTW

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  36. Battery testers.. by eples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You used to be able to purchase those strips for a buck, although they were much better than the lousy ones they stuck onto the batteries.

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  37. Frying the tester by rwiedower · · Score: 1
    If it does, unshort the pins quickly or you'll fry the tester...

    Man, I hate when I forget to unshort my pins and I get majorly fried. It totally sucks...

  38. Another electronics idea by bigberk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's something I did to help visually monitor my CPU temperature (and it doesn't require any software). You could extend it to monitor the temperature of any part that tends to overheat.

    Grab yourself a basic comparator such as the LM339 and a temperature sensor such as the LM135. Make a circuit that compares the temperature sensor's voltage to a pre-defined threshold, and lights the LED if the temperature rises too much. The 'Typical Application' section of each datasheet pretty much shows you exactly how to wire up the parts.

    You can put this circuit in your computer's case (run it off a spare +5 voltage connector) and use a spare LED you find, like the Turbo light ;)

    1. Re:Another electronics idea by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
      Actually, there are a number of programmable temperature sensors available that allow you to set a threshold and retain it, then will toggle an output when that threshold is reached. So this type of a device can be made with 1 chip.

      I actually made a number of them for computers at a job about ten years ago. We put a small pizo alarm in ours, but used the blinking a spare LED concept for a more advanced version that actually drove the project. We had some mission critical systems for an automated control system that on rare occasions (we didn't use windows) would crash and need rebooted. To allow the system to operate without someone coming to reboot it, we decided to build hardware watchdog timers for it. I started drawing out a circuit that would use a few timers and gates, amd then realized it would be easier and chaeper to do if I just used an entire computer instead! So we grabbed some PIC chips, threw together some code, and built a watchdog timer that could be attached to the PC reset button and got some input from the PC speaker line. As long as our application kept pulsing the speaker line at a known rate, all was well. If the pulses ever stopped, the system would reboot. Activity on the line at the wrong rate (such as a tone to the PC speaker) wouldn't fool the PIC computer, but could be routed to the actual speaker on another output pin. And we threw in one of the temperature sensing chips as well, except that since we had a PIC available rather than just set an alarm threshold, we programmed the PIC to let us interact with it. We had one manual control (the computer reset button) which we rerouted to the PIC. By tapping in codes we could ask what the temperature was (which read back as LED flashes) or raise or lower the alarm threshold. You could still reset the system, if desired, by pressing and holding the reset button for a couple of seconds. And the guy who programmed it all still had so much memory left in the smallest PIC chip available that he added an input code that would play an Elvis song on the speaker.

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  39. Re:Wow by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

    If the batteries died, you'd be getting a "connection refused" error.

  40. More useful than measuring load... by peyote · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...would be measuring the battery life of my laptop. (Stupid APM kernel oopses.) Just think: using a battery tester to... test... a battery!

    1. Re:More useful than measuring load... by ShadowDrake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you know the battery pinout, I could see connecting your preferred style of voltimeter across it. Ideally with a switch, so you don't drain it when you aren't resding the gauge.

      I note that some batteries (like the ones in my old Toshiba 486) had + and - clearly marked on the unit

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    2. Re:More useful than measuring load... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of laptop do you have?

      I've not had a single problem with APM and my Dell Latitude C840. It works with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. Make sure to completely disable ACPI.

      Suspend to RAM even works.

  41. IC please! by sl0wp0is0n · · Score: 1

    Can somebody make an IC out of that... don't wanna carry the extra baggage!

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  42. Netcraft has confirmed: Duracell is dying by KLP-2002 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: Duracell is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Duracell community when
    recently IDC confirmed that Duracell accounts for less than a fraction of 1
    percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft
    survey which plainly states that Duracell has lost more market share, this
    news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Duracell is collapsing
    in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in
    the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Duracell's
    future. The hand writing is on the wall: Duracell faces a bleak future. In
    fact there won't be any future at all for Duracell because Duracell is dying.
    Things are looking very bad for Duracell. As many of us are already aware,
    Duracell continues to lose market share. Brown ink flows like a river of
    shit.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the rumors.

    Cum laude Theo states that there are 7000 users of Duracell. How
    many users of Caldera are there? Let's see. The number of SuSe versus
    Caldera posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there
    are about 7000/5 = 1400 Caldera users. Connectiva posts on Usenet are about
    half of the volume of Caldera posts. Therefore there are about 700 users
    of nig cum. A recent article put TurboLinux at about 80 percent of the Duracell
    market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 TurboLinux users.
    This is consistent with the number of TurboLinux Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of SCO, abysmal sales and so on, TurboLinux
    went out of business and was taken over by SCO who sell another
    troubled OS. Now SCO is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet
    another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Duracell has steadily declined in market share.
    Duracell is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If
    Duracell is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Duracell
    continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this
    point in time. For all practical purposes, Duracell is dead.

    Fact: Duracell is dead

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  43. battery/CPU meter by RY · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder if the CPU meter is showing max load now?

  44. So DO IT, wowbagger. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Then you can get a story posted to slashdot about your cool hack, too. I would love to see that CPU slot-car thingie. The tachometer is a good one, too. Can you make it make the sound of a Ferrari reving?

  45. You answered your own question by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    And why the heck is anyone doing a dumb project like this? I mean sure, it's neat, but its entirely impractical.

    Next!

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  46. Best 9-volt test: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Daisy-chain a bunch of 9-volts together and hook wires to both ends. Then find a poor, helpless pocket calculator circuit board to fry components on.

    Some of them turn bright orange. Fun for all, unless you like math.

  47. no tester on my e2's by morcheeba · · Score: 1

    I just checked my cordless mouse, and no tester.

    These are the original batteries that came with the Apple bluetooth mouse, and are only a few months old (the mouse hasn't been out that long); expiration date 2013. Are yours older? Or did apple buy special OEM batteries (the mouse has a low-batt sensor, so this wouldn't be necessary)?

  48. Wrong bunny by chiph · · Score: 1

    Energizer has the bunny. Duracell has the "Trusted Everywhere" slogan.

    Chip H.

  49. Low Battery! by shaark78 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Looks like they need to change the batteries on the webserver.

  50. Math by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1, Funny
    Some of them turn bright orange. Fun for all, unless you like math.

    But... but... but... I like math AND destruction!

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  51. You answered your own question.... by gosand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OK, this is neat, but WHY?

    This same circuit could be adapted to:

    Vary the brightness of a small light bulb.
    Vary the speed of a small motor.
    Drive an old-style swing needle meter.
    (Variant of above) Drive a tachometer.

    Heck, why not interface to a slot-car and have it go faster the higher your load average is?


    I am sure you can take his code and modify it to do just that if you like. (and that answers part of your WHY question). The other part is just "because". This is true hacking.

    I do like the idea of an analog gauge to show the CPU load.

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  52. conductive ink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "they use a layer of conductive ink that heats up when an electrical current runs through it, in combination with a layer of thermally-activated dye that turns transparent when heated up, revealing a third layer of colored ink underneath"

    The definition of ink from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
    "1 : a colored usually liquid material for writing and printing
    2 : the black protective secretion of a cephalopod"


    Why is the first layer called "conductive ink"? Why not "coating" or "resin" or whatever it is? How does this stuff qualify as ink?

    1. Re:conductive ink? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Because it's printed, in a triangle pattern.

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    2. Re:conductive ink? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It was liquid when it was printed - hence ink.

      Is newsprint not ink once it has dried?

      Many inks are now resin based - some are still oil based, some water based.

    3. Re:conductive ink? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Except it's not ink, it's tinfoil. And it's placed as the bottom layer, under the yellow paint. The guy should have looked better.

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  53. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN READING ./ TOO LONG WHEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    you see this error message: "You've reached your maximum number of comments you can post: 30 comments over 4 hours."

    Awesome. Saw it for the first time today.

    1. Re:YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN READING ./ TOO LONG WHEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi grub.

  54. You can! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Now, if you could hook one of those Duracell indicators up to your date for the evening...

    Already been done. =)
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    rediculous.
  55. in case you can't get to their site anymore... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    For those of you who noticed the site's not available, there's a little bar graph on their server.

    Here's a live feed:

    E |==============X| F

    1. Re:in case you can't get to their site anymore... by acceptera · · Score: 1

      In other news: Like many other webservers, webperso.easyconnect.fr discontinues hosting of linuxrelated sites due to fear of slashdotting. Experts say that the GNU/Linux-operating system will die within a year.

  56. Why we don't have A/B batteries by slimey_limey · · Score: 0

    I heard that they stopped making A and B batteries about the time vacuum tubes went out of vogue.

  57. Instant response? by dustinbarbour · · Score: 1

    Anyone know how quickly it responds to changes in CPU usage?

    1. Re:Instant response? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big changes in below 1s (accuracy about 20%), then slides slowly to about 5% accuracy (the strip is a bit blurred by the end anyway) within some 10s.

  58. Ouch by slimey_limey · · Score: 0

    Yep, 48V below ground is enough to give even the most thick-skinned tongue a jolt.

  59. CPU Load? by bobdole369 · · Score: 1

    This isn't CPU load silly Duracell! Its just a fancy ammeter!

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  60. Probably because the public isn't entirely stupid by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A pity that Duracell seems to not be interested in putting these testers on their batteries or in their packaging anymore

    I'd guess it's because people weren't as stupid as the battery companies thought they were. Most people know full well the strip works by heating up, and that wastes the power of the battery.

    On top of that, it's redundant; most consumer devices have battery gauges, the gauge can't be used when it's in the device, and when it runs out- you usually either have spares, or a quick trip to the quik-mart fixes the problem. That means that something that cost money to put on the battery was now raising the cost on the shelf versus the competition, or eating into the profit margin.

    Not to mention, non-rechargeable batteries are useless to most product designers, because the devices are way too a)small and b)power hungry.

  61. Well, it'd be cooler, at least... by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    if he was measuring the current with one of those VU meter displays. That would kick ass.
    The backlight for the VU meter could be triggered by the serial port being active... you'd probably need to use a molex connector and pull from the system power for that though.

    The only reason I could see going with the Duracell thing is if the colors matched your case or something, which I don't see here.

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  62. Changes... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    1. Neatly cut out the indicator piece. Don't leave out whole battery cover.
    2. Use more than one. CPU load, CPU temp, network load, network latency, on worse networks - packet loss, maybe stuff like disk capacity or anything you really desire, that is suitable for analogue display.
    3. More data channels. Either paralell or USB, or serial with UART on the other end.
    4. 2 diodes and 2 switches to adjust voltage? Excuse me? Have you heard about a trimmer?
    5. Load it into a neat case, maybe a front panel of the computer.
    Yeah, it could look very neat. Better than a LED bargraph or a big badass analog meter. But it doesn't - it's ugly. Sorry.

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    1. Re:Changes... by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hmmm, the circuit looks like it will work, but it's rather overdone... You don't need the optoisolator, or the first transistor, just use a plain old 3 amp MOSFET. And then you don't need the diodes or the switches and you can lower the supply voltage to 1.5 volts, as the MOSFET is a near-perfect switch. I havent tried it yet, but it looks like you can replace the whole shebang with a 100K resistor, a power MOSFET, and a 1.5 volt D cell.

    2. Re:Changes... by ke4roh · · Score: 1

      Please forgive my ignorance, but why can't you make the circuit with 3 components in series - the power supply, a 10k potentiometer (or an appropriately sized resistor for the second incarnation), and the battery tester?

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    3. Re:Changes... by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 1

      >Please forgive my ignorance, but why can't you make the circuit with 3 components in series - the power supply, a 10k potentiometer (or an appropriately sized resistor for the second incarnation), and the battery tester? That would work if the battery tester only drew a few milliamps. But I think in order to heat up the strip, it draws at least 100 milliamps, maybe as much as one amp. The serial port can only source a few milliamps at most.

  63. Re:I hope he doesn't have one of those on the serv by mivok · · Score: 1

    I don't think the crowd will be happy until they've slashdotted several small furry animals, a toaster, a pringles tin, and probably an alien civilisation or two.

  64. Mirror of the Video by fishybell · · Score: 1
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  65. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  66. Griffin PowerMate by Coulson · · Score: 1

    Way better -- get a Griffin PowerMate (about $50). It has a glowy blue led that is software controllable (256 brightness values). Run a script that constantly sets its brightness to the current CPU load level.

    Plus, the PowerMate acts like a knobby thing. I call it a mousewheel for my Wacom tablet.

    1. Re:Griffin PowerMate by jrockway · · Score: 1

      Is it a USB HID device? And if not, does it work under Linux?

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    2. Re:Griffin PowerMate by Coulson · · Score: 1

      It's sold for Macs (I bought mine at an Apple Store), but I've only ever used it under Windows. Device Manager shows it as an HID-compliant USB device. I've never tried running it under Linux though. YMMV. If it works, lmk!

  67. imitation by Carlitros · · Score: 1

    Couldn't resist taking a photo of this battery I once found.
    Of course the battery check does not work!
    www.geocities.com/carlesvilageo/durasell1.j pg
    www.geocities.com/carlesvilageo/durasell2.jpg

  68. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by Accipiter · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of those cheesy toothbrushes that had a colored set of bristles in the center that faded over time, and when it got to a certain point of fade, it was time to replace your toothbrush.

    I've never used one, but I imagine that when it actually hit the alleged "replace now" mark, the toothbrush was probably still just fine. I don't even know if they still make them.

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  69. Won't somebody think of the children???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent post has really got me pissed off, it is so completely irresponsible that it's beyond words. Think of the impressionable youngsters who might be reading this site and decide to imitate his behavior. Hello??

  70. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by silentbozo · · Score: 1

    I've been saving a bunch of old batteries for toxic waste disposal (you're not supposed to toss em in the trash) so I suspect I have a number that still have the little strip on them. Time to reuse them prior to recycling...

  71. Go fish! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    They used to make strips for pet fish tanks that would show the temperature of the water. (Put it on the inside of the tank. As it heated up, the highest number showing was the temp.)

    They probably still make them since they're fool-proof, but the question is do they have them in the right range? (Most CPUs run a bit hot for live fish.) Try your local fish-hobby place.

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    1. Re:Go fish! by a20vertigo · · Score: 1

      I dunno... a low-end Duron or Celeron might be in perfect range for a Betta or something tropical.

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    2. Re:Go fish! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      A fish tank might make a good place to dump some of the heat if the computer runs 24/7.

      Some mods add neon. This one could add neon tetras.

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  72. simpsons ref! by caveat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Bonnnjjjjooourrrrrrrr, ya cheese-eating surrender monkeys! Meet Slashdot!

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  73. The testers don't kill the battery, people! by caveat · · Score: 1
    I noticed a lot of posts claiming that the testers are a marketing gimmick to get you to kill the battery faster - here's what HowStuffWorks has to say:
    One question you might have right now is, "Doesn't the battery tester drain some of the battery's energy?" The answer is, "yes, but not enough to matter." If you tested the battery every 5 minutes it might be a problem, but most people don't do that.

    Course, it could be different for geeks...toys like that are there to be used every 5 minutes! ;)
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  74. fuck you slashdot by peterprior · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    you and your pedantic fucking submission cunts

    Welp.. happy birthday to me. happy -1 offtopic to me... but I have karma to spare.

    2004-02-11 17:58:04 Duracell Battery Tester CPU Monitor (articles,hardware) (rejected)

    1. Re:fuck you slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dude, you didn't put Linux in the title, you dumbass! I submitted "Linux is teh roxxorz!" and got it posted.

      Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux.

      Remember that.

  75. Ringing? Supply voltage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even better, here in germany we have fall-back power for ISDN lines. If you do give it 230Vs from mains, it gets them via the telephone live!!
    Figured that out the hard way during installation of such an ISDN line at home... :)

  76. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I imagine that when it actually hit the alleged "replace now" mark, the toothbrush was probably still just fine.

    You imagine correctly. It's a totally useless "feature" which makes the brush-heads more expensive, and it's trying to fool you into believing that you need to buy a new brush-head just because "the blue is gone".

    AFAIK they still make them.

  77. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by patman600 · · Score: 1

    I'd guess it's because people weren't as stupid as the battery companies thought they were. Most people know full well the strip works by heating up, and that wastes the power of the battery.

    Don't be so sure of that. I asked several of my friends, and not one of them knew that it wastes the battery to test it. I've never thought about it, and no one ever told me before now.

  78. Re:I hope he doesn't have one of those on the serv by DiscoSnorlax · · Score: 1

    several small furry animals

    Like this??

  79. Text of Page-Test point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "mirror with the pictures...
    here [ttldkns.ath.cx]"

    Wow1 I can see were the probes go.

  80. Slightly OT, but if we're talking about batteries by Kris_J · · Score: 1

    This is probably the sort of thing that should go on halfbaked, but why do we only see AA/AAA batteries with a circular cross section? I know it's the standard, but plenty of battery compartments have no guides or anything that protrudes into the area that would be used by a square cross section, at least for half of the battery. Let's say that a AA's cross section is -- warning, ASCII art -- (). We could have extended life AAs that are like (], or super extended life AAs that are like []. Sure, you couldn't put them in everything, but you should be able to squeeze some extra mAh from the extra volume in those devices that they would fit in.

  81. Not that amazed... by espenss · · Score: 1

    ...before someone implements a Linux-platform for Duracell-batteries.

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  82. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After working with a friend of mine who works in my home town's environmental agency, I won't bother with "sending batteries for recycling". He told me that they pack them together and then dump them in the same landfill...

  83. CPU load monitor? by Foss · · Score: 1

    What the f*** does that mean? :)

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  84. Get some thermochromic ink by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I was a heatsink manufacturer, I'd .....

    1) Write on the side of your CPU heatsink the words "If you can see this , it's too hot!"

    2) Paint that side with black thermochromic ink that changes temperature at 60 degrees C.

    3) Profit!!!

    Or, as the temperature drops from the bottom to the top of the heatsink, you could put things like "cool..." "warm..." "warmer..." "Hot..." "FUCK!" up the side of the heatsink. One glance and you'd know. Handy for those clear cases ;-)

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  85. Seeing this go tme thinking... by FishermansEnemy · · Score: 1

    Has anyone here every seen an external, ANALOGUE CPU load/memory usage/network util gauge?

    I imagine it would be a very simialr design to this but replacing the battery skin ( FUR IS MURDER PEOPLE! ) with a needle gauge.

    That would look too cool!

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  86. Re:Slightly OT, but if we're talking about batteri by whaley · · Score: 1

    round housings are probably stronger, so maybe it is done to prevent exploding batteries. Or it might just be so much easier to produce?

  87. Hello Stacheldraht! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Friend of mine once pee'd over electric barbwire. He didn't had to use viagra for that one day!

  88. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by objwiz · · Score: 1

    It sure can entertain a bored 4 yr old for quite sometime, however. It made for a small cool toy to pass time while waiting for in line for Buzz LightYear Space Ranger Spin in Orlando FL.

  89. testers wear out & no Duracell disclaimer? by iamhassi · · Score: 1
    It's been my experience that the battery testers on batteries wear out over time, so how long would this little 'mod' last?

    I'm also surprised there's no disclaimer mentioning that "Duracell" is a registered trademark of (etc). Are you trying to get sued?

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  90. Cool hack! by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

    This is possibly one of the cooler hacks (read: completely useless, but very cool) I've seen in a while.

    But personally, I'd rather have the Linux be-blinkenlights hack that someone put together in the 1990's. It consisted of a C program that monitored CPU usage and sent info to the serial port, and a circuit you could build and wire to your serial port to generate a 10-bar LED bar graph that represented the load on your system.

    Anyone know if this still exists anywhere?

  91. Re:Probably because the public isn't entirely stup by ajs318 · · Score: 1
    This was how Kodak managed to get around the regulations with their single-use cameras IIRC. The cameras have many reusable parts, but the battery for the flash gets replaced as a matter of course, because you never know how many times the flash was used. I have seen packs of Kodak-branded alkaline batteries, labelled "not for resale", on sale in pound stores. Kodak aren't allowed to throw the batteries in landfill themselves, because they would be classed as "industrial waste". But in the UK and USA, any and all "household waste" can be thrown in landfill -- and UIAM there is no prescribed penalty for householders who offer up recyclables or toxic waste for landfill. So Kodak sell the not-very-spent batteries to some waste handler, who then test them to find the good ones, package them up and sell them to the pound stores, who sell them to members of the public who are more bothered about cheap batteries than why they aren't meant to be sold. When the batteries are done with, they end up in landfill -- but, because they were put there by thousands of individual householders rather than in one go by Kodak, the law says it's OK.

    Stinks, doesn't it? Why can't we be more like the Continent, where you can be fined or sent to prison for putting recyclable goods in the wrong bin? I'm just glad I try to avoid disposable batteries as far as possible.

    Environmental concerns aside, let's follow the money and see how cheap batteries really are.
    • From the mains, one kilowatt-hour costs about 6.5p.
    • My petrol powered portable generator costs about 90p. per kWh when you factor in the oil which has to be mixed in with the fuel. {I probably could reclaim the petrol tax from HM Customs and Excise, since it is a non-road-going application; but apart from the words "blood" and "stone" springing to mind, I don't really want to draw their attention to me.}
    • A pair of alkaline AA cells might be rated at 4Ah, making 2 * 1.5 * 4 = 12Wh. If they cost 99p {which would be a very good deal for 4Ah batteries BTW} then the cost for a full kWh would be 99 / 0.012 = 8520p = GBP85.20.
    I know cheap transformer PSUs are lossy, mostly due to having to magnetise and demagnetise a hefty lump of cheap steel fifty times a second; but there's no way they could ever work out more expensive than batteries. And many modern mobile phone rechargers &c. are actually switch mode units.
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  92. Thank goodness, another way to measure system load by JamieF · · Score: 1

    Because there aren't enough ways to figure that out already.

    Next we'll hear about someone making an oven that you can ping to see what temperature it is. If the latency is high, it's warm; if the latency is low, it's cold. Hooray!

    Besides, who would want to use a battery tester to measure system load when it doesn't even have a themes engine or an IRC client built in?

  93. good chip if you can find one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looking at the schematic, all you'd need to do is find one of the LM3914 *modules* (or get the chip and 10-segment bar graph LED units), and place it on the transistor output of the optocoupler. Calibrate, and you're golden.

    Note: The 3915 and 3916 are the Log and VU displays, respectively.

    I'd also add some sort of sample-and-hold capacitor, maybe a .47uF, to allow easier readings of peaks.

    The REAL guru on these matters can be found at http://www.tinaja.com

  94. Polaroid film batteries by cpopin · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the days when I would religiously save all the spent Polaroid instant film containers. They had a flat 4" x 6" (size of Polaroid pictures) 6v battery. They've got to have enough voltage to take ten flash photos, but not all photos use flash, so they're often underused. Take them apart and you can use them for just about any DC voltage need. With ten of them you can have a very strong 6v battery for RC cars and planes, or put them in a series for higher voltages.

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  95. Re:Slightly OT, but if we're talking about batteri by WebGangsta · · Score: 1
    As you pointed out, while volumetric efficiency would be there - the cost of manufacture and difficulty in obtaining a good seal makes it prohibitively expensive to do so.

    Same reason almost all of your food comes in round cans instead of square ones, including soda cans and beer cans.

  96. Re:Slightly OT, but if we're talking about batteri by Kris_J · · Score: 1

    Explain 9V batteries then. :)

  97. Re:Slightly OT, but if we're talking about batteri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    9Vs, at least when I got some radio shack ones cracked open, are actually 6 small button cells stacked together in a rectangle box with some wax to hold it together. So there, circular batteries in a rectangular box. Again.

    Granted.....those button cells were actually oval, not like your CMOS batteries, but hey, you get the point.