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Amazon Offers 2-Day Shipping For $79/Year

stevejsmith writes "Amazon.com has announced their Amazon Prime service. For $79, you get free two-day shipping on all items, upgradeable to overnight shipping for $3.99 per item. The offer applies to most media (books, DVDs, CDs, etc.) and can be shared among "up to four family members living in the same household." Apparently the only way they will enforce this family-only sharing clause is by mandating that your "family members" know your birthday."

325 comments

  1. Family Members by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't a better way is to let you nominate 4 Amazon users under your account, and you can only change these users once every x months or pay a fee for each change?

    The service is limited to family members living in the same household, that means goods will(should) always be delivered to that one address, and I don't see many people can abuse it.

    Enlighten me please.

    1. Re:Family Members by Mr+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would you assume that because it's limited to family members purchasing it should be limited in delivery address?

      I'd be pretty pissed if I payed $79 a year for "free" shipping and I couldn't have my sister's christmas presents delivered to her in LA as well as my wife's delivered to my home in NC.

    2. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except if you order for your whole block

    3. Re:Family Members by rbarreira · · Score: 4, Informative
      Why would you assume that because it's limited to family members purchasing it should be limited in delivery address?

      Because it says "family members living in the same household".
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    4. Re:Family Members by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      And the same 4 person(s) buying it. Just some of them are gifts, going to other addresses.

    5. Re:Family Members by OrangeStar · · Score: 1

      Say you have 6 people living at your house. There's two extra people. Plus, you could have others stuff ordered under your account, and you give it to them. At least, all you neighbors and close relatives.

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    6. Re:Family Members by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm seeing this as "all shipping at a set price per year, unless you want to change the adress to which the packages are sent." I don't really see why they put it in terms of family members. If you're sharing an account, the account will only get charged once anyhow.

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    7. Re:Family Members by stankulp · · Score: 1

      I read it as shipping to one address also.

      There is no way they are going to allow you to ship to any addresses you wish.

      If they did, you could start a nice little business ordering things for people and charging half-price shipping.

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    8. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enlighten me please.

      Ok, fuckwad.
      Company A develops application with feature set B.
      Application A's description is posted on Slashdot, and karma whores proceed to complain that feature set B does not contain feature C.

      Keep in mind these same people complain that their dumb managers and customers do the same thing to their own projects.

      Do as I complain, not as I do.

    9. Re:Family Members by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1
      The service is limited to family members living in the same household, that means goods will(should) always be delivered to that one address, and I don't see many people can abuse it.
      Lots of people buy gifts from Amazon. Around half my Amazon shipments go to different addresses. Presumably that would allow some nefarious canoodling (actually that's the wrong word, but I like the sound).
    10. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought in NC your sister and your wife are the same person.

    11. Re:Family Members by robertjw · · Score: 1

      The family member thing seems silly to me anyway - living in the same house or not. I could easily just have a friend order something for me (or order something for my friends). Look the item up, shoot an email to the designated Amazon orderer and drop by said orderer's house two days later.

      Biggest problem I see with this is it wouldn't be much use to me. I generally use Amazon for music and books (although it seems that I'm currently in the majority). The last few items I have bought were in the new & used section and are shipped from the individuals listing the items - so I never get Amazon's cool shipping deals.

    12. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a person living in (not born in) NC i can tell you that that is true in 99 of the 100 counties, in Mecklengburg county she is your cousin not sister.

    13. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I happen to work at Amazon.com and know some of the people on the project team.

      You can, in fact, get the discount as long as your order goes to anywhere in the lower 48 states. You can use the benefits for gifts, etc..

      It's only that membership is limited to the same household -- not the delivery address.

      - me

    14. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enlighten me more : Am I the only one having troubles to interpret the following : ". For $79, you get free two-day shipping on all items, upgradeable to overnight shipping for $3.99 per item."

      It looks like i buy, with $79,- , the right to pay $4,- (minus 1 cent) to get my good delivered within two days (how long does a "normal" delivery take ?).

      Am I supposed to say "thank you" or "fuck you" ?

    15. Re:Family Members by Botty · · Score: 0

      Say "Thank you".

      That makes free 2 day shipping on all items. Some places charge upwards of $10 for 2nd day shipping and upwards of $30 for overnight.
      So thats at least a $10 discount everytime you order 2nd day and a $26 discount everytime you order overnight.

      You can either pay nothing or 4 dollars...
      Run it by me again how you think they are screwing you....

    16. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is overly complicated.

    17. Re:Family Members by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you can ship to any address in the US (48 states).

  2. Amazon Prime? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless it can transform from a tractor-trailer into a bow-wielding vixen, I'm not interested.

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    1. Re:Amazon Prime? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I want my bow-weilding vixens to be transforming into tractor-trailers anyway...

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    2. re: amazon prime? by ed.han · · Score: 1

      hey, what do you have against spearazons? :>

      ed

    3. Re:Amazon Prime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah they do compete. Remember from family
      Peter: Optimus Prime? He's Jewish!

    4. Re:Amazon Prime? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm not sure I want my bow-weilding vixens to be transforming into tractor-trailers anyway...

      ...but think all the double entendre fun you could have!

      "Wait 'till you get inside! Cozy, yet surprisingly roomy!"
      "I'm into leather. Heated seats, too..."
      "It's very pleasant in the rear--I could spend all day there!"
      "I enjoy sex with motor vehicles!"

      (uh--scratch that last one.)

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    5. Re:Amazon Prime? by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
      Does Amazon Prime compete with Optimus for leadership of the Autobots?

      Don't be silly. Optimus' authority is beyond dispute, and Autobots never fight Autobots.

      I am offended by your Decepticon-ish post. Did Starscream put you up to this?

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    6. Re:Amazon Prime? by pavon · · Score: 1

      Yes this is a bad name. I tried reading their product desciptions, but my mind kept drifing away to day dreams about Amazon Prime, the leader of the female warrior tribe of Transformers. Mmmm sexy, sexy Maternatrons.

    7. Re:Amazon Prime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to take you off my friends list for that one. I sure I'll put you one again very soon. Unless, you've totally lost it.

    8. Re:Amazon Prime? by dedeman · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm not historian, but I do recall a certain regime change, something to do with the "Matrix", and something named "Rodimus Prime". Ring any bells, Megatron?

    9. Re:Amazon Prime? by techsoldaten · · Score: 1

      Techsoldaten can transform into a plane, yes it's true.

      M

    10. Re:Amazon Prime? by hamburger+lady · · Score: 1

      apparently, Amazon got their hands on the autobot matrix of leadership.

      trouble's a-brewin'..

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    11. Re:Amazon Prime? by techsoldaten · · Score: 1

      All I have to say is...

      I look forward to welcoming our new Milfabot overlords.

      M

    12. Re:Amazon Prime? by sc0ttyb · · Score: 1

      Automatons! Add to cart and check out!

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    13. Re:Amazon Prime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Optimus Prime is dead. he'll fight Rodimus.

  3. Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket items by garcia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have bought many items over the years from Amazon as I'm always relatively pleased with their prices and ALWAYS pleased with their service... Just yesterday I purchased a new GPS for myself. Being an avid geocacher I am always upgrading my GPSr to make my life a little easier.

    This particular upgrade wasn't just for geocaching but more for actual navigating. My fiancé needed to use autorouting to get around town with her sister dress shopping and autorouting would be the best way. What a great excuse for me to plop down $430 on a new GPS!

    Ok, so I do some research with froogle and some of the other price watching sites and check Amazon just for kicks. They of course weren't showing me their price on the site so I add it to my cart to find out that it's $499.99 for the GPSMap76C. Eh, for kicks I check out the price on their 76CS (usually $75+ more than the C). I find it on sale for $428 and free STANDARD SAVER shipping. Estimated arrival sometime after the 10th and before the 15th.

    With prices for shipping starting at $7.65 and me not really needing this for the fiancé until the end of February I took the free shipping. I am THRILLED I did. Last night I received word that even though Amazon.com original claimed the device wouldn't even ship until the 4th it was already out the door and en-route to me. This morning I check and find that the estimated ARRIVAL time from UPS is the 4th of February.

    For no additional cost I just got 3-day shipping via UPS.

    I guess Amazon's "Prime" service could be useful for families that order more than 7 items from Amazon yearly but don't spend enough to get the freebie shipping. I really can't imagine it paying off for many others but I am glad I held off on upgrading the shipping this time :)

  4. Amazon Prime? by techsoldaten · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does Amazon Prime compete with Optimus for leadership of the Autobots?

    Perhaps he is the UPS truck to Optimus's tractor trailer?

    M

  5. Good for university students by chris09876 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's not a bad deal... I can see this being especially useful in university residences. Just get one person in the building to buy a membership and collect their $2 from everyone who wants to use it... and free shipping for the rest of the year!

    1. Re:Good for university students by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      Good for university students

      Bad for me -- At least, it will be bad for the bank account when my wife hear's about this...

    2. Re:Good for university students by RonnyJ · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It seems a bit dishonourable to me how /. have essentially told people how to fradulently abuse this shipping deal.

      Sure, a lot people would figure it out for themselves, and post it as a comment themselves, but is it really right for /. to post it in the actual article header?

    3. Re:Good for university students by Gudlyf · · Score: 1
      " It seems a bit dishonourable to me how /. have essentially told people how to fradulently abuse this shipping deal."

      Hey, don't you know security through obscurity doesn't work?

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    4. Re:Good for university students by fulldecent · · Score: 1

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    5. Re:Good for university students by fulldecent · · Score: 1

      Never under estimate security by underrated comments...

      P.S. Here's the private key for the Microsoft X-Box:

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    6. Re:Good for university students by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      I don't see why. Surely the people at Amazon are not stupid, have already thought of this and included it in the asking price.

  6. small book stores by CAIMLAS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This might be greatly advantageous to small bookstores (new and used), if they can get any title for a person within two days and not have to order in bulk, etc.

    I wonder if this rate deal covers the "used" 3rd party books.

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    1. Re:small book stores by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      The terms and conditions specificially state that books sold to businesses for resale are not included in the program.

    2. Re:small book stores by hawks5999 · · Score: 1

      From the terms and conditions: "Products sold by third parties, or through third-party areas such as Marketplace, Auctions and/or zShops, are NOT eligible for Prime."

    3. Re:small book stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not a chance in hell.

      most "used" books are shipped the "saver media rate" which means ship as slowly as possible.

      most used books do not have the ability to upgrade shipping as the hermit does not want to change from his routene in shipping.

    4. Re:small book stores by iMaple · · Score: 1

      I wonder if this rate deal covers the "used" 3rd party books.
      It doesnt. From the horse's mouth
      Products sold by third parties, or through third-party areas such as Marketplace, Auctions and/or zShops, are NOT eligible.

    5. Re:small book stores by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Or course, those customers would be better served going to Amazon by themselves in the first place...

      Also, I don't think the free 2-day shipping covers marketplace items, so used books don't qualify.

    6. Re:small book stores by BlueOtto · · Score: 1

      No, it will not cover "used" 3rd party books.

      From their FAQ:

      Which items are eligible for Amazon Prime?

      Eligible products will be designated on the product page, in the order pipeline, or at check-out. The program is limited to products sold by Amazon.com. Some Amazon.com products are excluded, including, for example, oversize or heavy items, items regulated as hazardous materials, and other items with special shipping characteristics. Products sold by third parties, or through third-party areas such as Marketplace, Auctions and/or zShops, are NOT eligible.

    7. Re:small book stores by daveo0331 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you're misreading that statement. What they're saying is that if you buy a product through Amazon that's actually being sold by a third party -- for example, buying a Gamecube from Toys r us through Amazon -- you don't get free shipping. The $25 super saver shipping tends to have the same restriction.

      That said, what you said is absolutely right. It's just covered in a different part of the terms & conditions:

      Prime members are entitled to free Two-Day shipping and $3.99 per unit One-Day shipping on all eligible purchases. If you purchase a Prime membership, you may also invite up to four eligible family members living in your household (at the same address) to register for Prime membership at no extra cost. (Please note that any member under age 18 may use the Amazon.com Web site only with involvement of a parent or guardian.) The purchaser can change and/or remove guests at any time. A guest's membership will automatically terminate if the purchaser of the membership ceases to be a member or removes the guest. This program is not available for Corporate Accounts or for customers who purchase products for business or institutional use or for the purpose of resale.

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  7. Uh Oh by nightterror · · Score: 5, Funny

    Im in enough trouble trying to remember my wifes birthday as it is....

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    1. Re:Uh Oh by DustyShadow · · Score: 1

      Stop lying, /.'ers don't have wives.

    2. Re:Uh Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im in enough trouble trying to remember my wifes birthday as it is....

      - nightterror


      Good news! I think we found out what might be keeping you up at night.

      Although if you limit yourself to just one wife (or fewer), the terrors might just go away.

    3. Re:Uh Oh by Bazzible · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Jeff Bezos's wife made this suggestion? Lets see him forget his wife's birthday now!

  8. wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this tech news?

    1. Re:wtf? by Geoff-with-a-G · · Score: 1

      It's "News for Nerds" because Amazon is practically the icon of the dotcom era, and most nerds I know still shop there frequently. The cost and convenience of shipping from major online stores is one of the most important factors in "eBusiness", which is in turn responsible for a lot of the jobs, technology, and awareness of the IT people who read Slashdot.

  9. Hmm.. by jehnx · · Score: 1

    Is there any money to be made in this for them? I suppose this could work out, but only if their probably theories work out and some people buy the service and don't use it. But what about the power buyers (like myself) who get heavy textbooks, heavier textbooks, and even heavier textbooks (grr @ orgo)? It just doesn't seem like it's cost-effective, but maybe I'm missing something..?

    1. Re:Hmm.. by rylin · · Score: 1

      Bank interest.

    2. Re:Hmm.. by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 1

      With this service people will also be inclined to purchase more, and more often from them. With that logic, this will result in more purchases from them.

      Although, people will also feel inclined to purchase small items one at a time, instead of setting up a list of items and then purchasing them all at the same time, which could definitely hurt them.

    3. Re:Hmm.. by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 1

      sorry...
      With this service people will also be inclined to purchase more, and more often from them. With that logic, this will result in more purchases from them.

      From the department of redundancy department... I'm brain-dead today.

    4. Re:Hmm.. by wattersa · · Score: 1

      > Is there any money to be made in this for them?

      Naturally. It's like insurance, so if you really order a lot of items, you're subsidized by the vast majority who don't use up the whole $79. More importantly, they get your $79 _now_ and can use it for other purposes as you gradually deplete it with shipping costs, kind of like how the post office sells stamps :/. What's $79 x 250,000 interested users? Or think of it as an easy way to borrow money without going to a bank...

    5. Re:Hmm.. by DrNibbler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're less likely to buy from a competitor's site if you fell you've already paid for unlimited shipping @ amazon. Your 79 bucks pretty much assures them that you won't buy a book from B&N even it's it's cheaper.

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    6. Re:Hmm.. by iJames · · Score: 4, Insightful
      But what about the power buyers (like myself) who get heavy textbooks, heavier textbooks, and even heavier textbooks (grr @ orgo)? It just doesn't seem like it's cost-effective, but maybe I'm missing something..?

      What you're missing is that they've locked you in as an Amazon customer. You'll be much more likely to order from them and get your $79 worth than to compare their prices at BN, Powells, your corner used book store, etc. You're staying loyal to them and paying them for the privilege. And if you don't stay loyal? Well, they've still got your money. It's a double whammy.

      Note that I'm not being critical. It's really a brilliant move, marketing-wise. Like the $15 annual discount cards they've always pushed at the brick-and-mortar stores, but at a much higher price and with a much higher break-even point for the benefit. If they make a killing with this, they deserve it. (And if the customers scoff and they lose their shirts, then clearly they deserved that too.)

    7. Re:Hmm.. by Reignking · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that Amazon has done its financial analysis on this. Once they hook someone, too, why would you spend more money on another site for the same product? Its an interesting option, and I wouldn't be suprised if target customers received emails about this soon, if not today.

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    8. Re:Hmm.. by mboverload · · Score: 2

      Only people who can't do math would be stupid enough to buy this. You know how much stuff you would have to buy to make this worth the money? Tons.

    9. Re:Hmm.. by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 1

      I drive deliveries for a local deli. We have a delivery charge during peak hours, but the drivers dont keep a cent of it. The reason why is to have 20 nurses in the same wing of the same hospital order once with 20 sandwiches, instead of 5 times with 4 sandwiches. $3-10 split across 20 people isn't much, but it adds up pretty quickly when you have 4 people ordering.

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    10. Re:Hmm.. by hsmith · · Score: 1

      Well, look at it, you have a few cases:

      the person who gets it and never uses it
      the person who gets it and whores it to no end
      and prob others

      now the person who uses it to no end, well, amazon wants them, they are purchasing more, which is more profit. it is the old adage of "getting people in teh store" and selling

    11. Re:Hmm.. by doon · · Score: 1

      Only people who can't do math would be stupid enough to buy this

      People still play the lottery..

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    12. Re:Hmm.. by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 1

      I just checked my invoices from 2004.. I purchased 14 items and paid $87.50 for shipping

      I would have saved $8.50 with this.

      Now an $8.50 savings doesn't seem worth it.. But then if I had paid $the 79 I would gotten all my items in 2 days (a few of the 14 used free shipping). And when I shop, shipping cost plays a big role. I look for free/cheap shipping. Had I amazon had this in 2004 and I got it, I'm sure I would have ordered at least 30 items from them (probably more, seeing as I purchased about 50 dvds last year and probably would have purchased all of them from amazon to have them in 2 days.. Cause I like having my dvds fast so I can watch them on the weekend =P)

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    13. Re:Hmm.. by Fareq · · Score: 1

      Mod parent funny, insightful, and redundant?

    14. Re:Hmm.. by Fareq · · Score: 1

      You remember when free shipping was only on orders of $75, and then when nobody bought extra stuff, it went to $50, and then to $25 when they realized that most orders are $15-$20 (so that one more item that might not be ordered got added to make the limit)?

      Well, I bet in 6 months you'll see Amazon Prime, just $49 per year... or something like that...

      and if that pricepoint doesn't work, they'll lower it again. As far as they can without losing more money on the shipping charges than they earn through the extra sales.

    15. Re:Hmm.. by sapgau · · Score: 1

      Data mining at it's best.

    16. Re:Hmm.. by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      Yup. When it was $75 I would save up for a while and place an order. Once they dropped it to $25, I started ordering from them all the time; frequently I'll have $20 worth of stuff and throw in another book to get free shipping. These days, Amazon gets a significant amount of my money, largely because they give free shipping when you spend $25.

    17. Re:Hmm.. by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      >People still play the lottery..

      I know how outrageous the odds are. But I know two lottery winners -- and I'm a fairly antisocial individual. It doesn't sway me, but it does make the odds seem a little less astronomical.

      I think I played the lotto maybe 5 times for curiosity's sake. Won $180, and stopped playing.

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    18. Re:Hmm.. by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      "...but the drivers dont keep a cent of it. The reason why..."

      I don't follow your explanation. Why does the owner get the delivery money and not the driver? Sounds like a shithole place to work.

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    19. Re:Hmm.. by llefler · · Score: 1

      Once they dropped it to $25, I started ordering from them all the time; frequently I'll have $20 worth of stuff and throw in another book to get free shipping.

      Isn't that what the Wish List is for? To keep track of all the things you'd like to have, but don't need bad enough to order right now. Filler items.

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  10. silly by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....it is tech news because someone could use Amazon to order a TI Graphing calculator. Silly question.

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  11. Know my birthday? by FingerDemon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, that eliminates my family from participating.

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  12. Doesn't seem that great by ucblockhead · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seems to me you'd have to spend on the order of $1500/yr in merchandise in order to make this worthwhile. And then, it'd only be worth it if you would have paid for two-day shipping otherwise.

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    1. Re:Doesn't seem that great by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      For people (like me) who order just about everything they buy from Amazon, $1500/yr is not a large amount.

      The two-day shipping deal is even better than it seems on the surface, though. You don't have to consolidate your orders. You don't have to place orders for $25+ to get free shipping. When you select two-day shipping, they not only use quicker shipping, but it leaves the warehouse more quickly as well. You and your family can split the cost.

      This is quite a deal, IMO.

    2. Re:Doesn't seem that great by jfw25 · · Score: 1
      Seems to me that customers who spend $1500/year would be very attractive to Amazon.

      It is very easy to review your order history to figure out how much you spent on shipping in any given year, so they make it really easy to do the math, too. In my case, let's just say that I didn't get anywhere near all the way through my order history for last year before deciding this was a very attractive offer. (Of course, Christmas tends to stack the deck somewhat. In fact, there may be Amazon customers who don't come anywhere near $1500 per year yet still spend over $79 on rapid shipping at years-end to make sure they don't get the cold shoulder from left-out family members again this year...)

    3. Re:Doesn't seem that great by NamShubCMX · · Score: 2, Informative
      The funny part is 80% of the time I get my book the *next* day, with the free shipping.

      What a deal.

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    4. Re:Doesn't seem that great by lunax · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just for kicks I looked up what it would cost me to have a $6 Asimov book shipped two-day shipping. It was nearly $10. I don't understand where the $1500 comes from if you can order 9 books (ordered separately) for $57 and still save nearly $10 on shipping.

    5. Re:Doesn't seem that great by afxgrin · · Score: 1

      Or you could just start a book store and have items arriving from Amazon.com in two days instead of keeping a large inventory. Just sell to everyone who doesn't like ordering online and you're set. This allows a small business to keep a low overhead and increase margins.

    6. Re:Doesn't seem that great by tgibbs · · Score: 1

      Seems to me you'd have to spend on the order of $1500/yr in merchandise in order to make this worthwhile. And then, it'd only be worth it if you would have paid for two-day shipping otherwise.

      I don't know where you get this number. It is obviously most beneficial for people who order a lot of small items, who could easily run up shipping costs of $80 even for standard shipping while spending considerably less than you estimate. Of course, even without this, you can always avoid Amazon's shipping fees if you are willing to wait until you've accumulated $25 in each order, so it is mainly a convenience feature.

    7. Re:Doesn't seem that great by Rageon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You might be surprised how many people order that much stuff on Amazon. I used to work there, unfortunately. There are accounts that have new orders EVERY DAY. Some people order many 3 to 5 times a day, sometimes more. There are customers that have incremental accounts (firstlast01, firstlast02, etc...) because it takes too long to load up their account history once it gets past a thousand orders or so. There are even some customers who order so much they have employees assigned directly to them for support.

      I'll say this, there are people that would save thousands a year on this. However, most people won't use it enough and it will be free money for Amazon.

      PS....Just for the fun of it, did you know that you cna order a 1000 pound table saw and have it shipped for about 10 bucks? They love it when those get returned and they've got to eat $400 in shipping costs.

    8. Re:Doesn't seem that great by friday2k · · Score: 1

      You must live close to a distribution center. So you already have a good deal, you do not need this one. As others pointed out, everyone should decide whether this is a good deal for them or not.

    9. Re:Doesn't seem that great by fishbowl · · Score: 1



      "For people (like me) who order just about everything they buy from Amazon, $1500/yr is not a large amount."

      I don't think it's a particularly large amount just for books. I bought nearly that much in work-related books last year, plus 2 semesters' worth of university textbooks, plus a few hundred dollars' worth of sheet music. Not all of it from Amazon, but that is only because Amazon doesn't have everything.

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    10. Re:Doesn't seem that great by luferbu · · Score: 1

      Amazon Germany delivers almost everything for free (inside Germany). Sometimes it is restricted to orders over 20, but that's not such a big deal :) I bought some 7.1 speakers and got them delivered in 3 days (no shipping costs), and believe me, they are quite heavy.

    11. Re:Doesn't seem that great by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1
      PS....Just for the fun of it, did you know that you cna order a 1000 pound table saw and have it shipped for about 10 bucks? They love it when those get returned and they've got to eat $400 in shipping costs.

      Link please.
  13. Last Time... by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last time my girlfriend (yes, I have one) bought something at Amazon, shipping only took 2 days anyway. What are we paying for here? In Canada, they use Canada Post for delivery, which will usually deliver stuff to most major centers in 2 days. Some places take longer, although probably not over 5 days.

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    1. Re:Last Time... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I live in the UK and have had similar experiences. Their super saver delivery quotes (I think) 3-5 day delivery, and usually turns up in 1-2 days. The only exception to this was around the Christmas period when it took 3 days.

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    2. Re:Last Time... by Otter · · Score: 1
      I think the big win here is on consolidation -- if you order a bunch of things, in and out of stock, you get the in-stock ones in two days and the others two days after arrival.

      Under the current system, you do get pretty much everything within two days of shipping but that can take a while if you don' pay for multiple shipments.

    3. Re:Last Time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      In Canada, they use Canada Post for delivery

      It's more than that. In Canada, Amazon *is* Canada Post. The .ca operation is run by Canada Post. They do all the warehousing and order fufillment, in addition to delivery. Probably how they get the free shipping without complaint.

    4. Re:Last Time... by synx · · Score: 1

      Things are different here in the US. Ground shipping at "regular speed" is pretty slow and can take up to 5 business days to arrive from the warehouses (which are not in major centres for obvious reasons) to a major destination like Seattle.

      It's a big country, and it sucks if you are in logistics.

    5. Re:Last Time... by Mold · · Score: 1

      You're lucky. I almost always order one-day or two-day delivery, and I have never had an order from Amazon take less than a week.

      A friend of mine just had a similar experience, too.

      It may be that I live in Missouri, but seriously, I could have driven to them and back myself in the time it takes them to get it to me with next-day and two-day delivery.

    6. Re:Last Time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Last time my girlfriend (yes, I have one) bought something at Amazon...

      What did "she" order? A glove? A ring? Some fingernail polish? Manicure set? Grip strengthening ball?

    7. Re:Last Time... by dcclark · · Score: 0

      Funny, my parents sent a letter (standard weight and size) about 3 weeks ago, and I got it today. They're in Michigan, I'm 5 hours east in Ontario. This is fairly typical

      Maybe they could send letters through Amazon? ;)

    8. Re:Last Time... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Yes, but that has to travel through 2 postal systems. Takes quite a while from what I hear. No experience myself. However most mail from Canada to Canada takes only a few days. If you pay for priority shipment, it's always fast, and way cheaper than any other courier.

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    9. Re:Last Time... by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      Plus if you get the free shipping it takes forever just for them to ship it even if it is in stock..

    10. Re:Last Time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same Here. I live in Rochester, NY and my order always takes only 2-3 days to deliver with the free shipping option

    11. Re:Last Time... by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      Just be glad the bargain shipping rate doesn't cause them to intentionally delay your package!

      "Hey, Joe, this isn't supposed to be delivered till Friday, you want I should toss it back in the truck?"

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    12. Re:Last Time... by zsau · · Score: 1

      It's probably because of the great barrier known as the equator that prevents anything from crossing it, but most of the time I hear people talking of Amazon it's in combination with 'five weeks late'. After an ETA of a month. But I don't imagine they're offering two day shipping to Australia anyway, no matter how much you pay.

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    13. Re:Last Time... by macshit · · Score: 1

      I think mail in the UK is unusually fast, maybe because of the country's small size and somewhat linear layout; it also used to be case (at when I lived in the UK) that many areas had twice-daily mail pickup and delivery, which really smooths things along.

      I once bought a plane ticket while I was living in Edinburgh, from a company located in London (this was long ago, before internet travel agencies and the like). I was to pay by check.

      I sent my check off one morning ... and received the tickets in return the next morning! That is, I sent the check, they received it, made sure it was valid, and then sent the ticket, all within the space of a day! All using the normal postal service.

      I was very impressed...

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    14. Re:Last Time... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      If it takes 5 weeks to get stuff from Amazon, why do you even bother? Surely it must be easier to go to your local book store and get it. Or even have them order it. 5 weeks in unbearable.

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    15. Re:Last Time... by zsau · · Score: 1

      I don't. It probably doesn't occur to a lot of people that just because a bookstore doesn't have something in stock doesn't mean they can't get it on a special order, and it probably also doesn't occur to them that going through Amazon is essentially a special order.

      Of course, they may've picked up their game recently. My sister ordered a book via Amazon earlier this week, we'll see how it goes...

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  14. Work address by grahamsz · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering if i list my work mailstop if i can get 4 other people to chip in $20..?

    1. Re:Work address by TheViffer · · Score: 5, Funny
      Who cares.

      I can go buy my 1300 pound shipped JL421 Badonkadonk Land Cruiser/Tank happly knowing that shipping will run me $79!

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    2. Re:Work address by xyzzy · · Score: 1

      Sorry, no such luck :-) The 2-day shipping deal is limited to products sold directly by Amazon.com, and the Badonkadonk ain't.

    3. Re:Work address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow.

      Item Weight: 1100.00 pounds.
      Shipping Weight: 1300.00 pounds.


      200 pounds of packing material.

    4. Re:Work address by QuaZar666 · · Score: 1

      well I just checked to see how much the shipping would be and it says it is only $14.99 so no need to purchase Amazon Prime.

      - Qua

    5. Re:Work address by frinkster · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine bought a large table saw from Amazon and got the free Super Saver shipping. Of course, since it was a few hundred pounds Amazon had to use freight shipping. A week later a large truck arrived and forklifted it into his garage for him!

    6. Re:Work address by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      I can't believe they're actually going to wrap this thing up. Why not just drive it over?

    7. Re:Work address by I(rispee_I(reme · · Score: 1

      The product reviews at that link are some of the best I've ever seen on Amazon...

  15. That would never work! by Mr+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, because you'd have to tell them all your birthday! See? It's FOOLPROOF.

    Erm... Yeah... Nevermind.

    1. Re:That would never work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No, because you'd have to tell them all your birthday! See? It's FOOLPROOF.

      HA! I'd LIE to both Amazon AND my putz frineds! IT'S POOLFROOF!

    2. Re:That would never work! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      No, because you'd have to tell them all your birthday!

      Wouldn't that violate the DMCA?

  16. WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    For $79, you get free

    It's amazing how marketing has managed to distort the English language. Hey, I'll work for Free/Hr.

    1. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Note that the $79.00 "Free" can be upgraded for $3.99

    2. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by adlaiff6 · · Score: 1

      Ever gone college hunting? It seems everything's free. Medical, transportation, food, sporting events, movie nights...all free once you pay $25,000/yr.

    3. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Ever gone college hunting?

      Yup - landed one too. But once we got it home, we couldn't figure out how to cook it. It was easy to catch - we used cases of beer for bait.

    4. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's free as in freedom. Libre, not gratis.

    5. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by xander2032 · · Score: 1

      I really don't see the point of it. Most orders $25 and over are free anyways. I've NEVER had to pay for shipping on Amazon. (Except of course when buying from individual sellers. But the $79 doesn't cover them anyways.) So what's the point?? Do people actually order enough junk from Amazon to exceed $79 in shipping per year?? LOL

    6. Re:WTF?? "For $79, you get free" by myov · · Score: 1

      I used this exact line in a presentation in my second year softeng class 5 years ago. We were supposed to do a "marketing presentation", including a $100/year maintenance fee.

      I came up with the idea of "For only $100/year, you get FREE MAINTENANCE! Free maintenance? Yes, FREE MAINTENANCE!".

      We were the only group that did well.
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  17. Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by jgerry · · Score: 3, Informative

    At about $7 per expedited shipment, you'd break even after about 12 orders. But it only makes sense if you order about once a month from Amazon (I do), and you're compulsive and always want your stuff quickly (I do).

    I scanned my orders from 2004 and I spent $95 on expedited shipping costs, so for me, it might be a good idea.

    1. Re:Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by captaincucumber · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm compulsive too, and I discovered this place called "a store". All you have to do is drive there, and you get your stuff immediately, not in 2 days. Shipping is free.

    2. Re:Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by hab136 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      All you have to do is drive there, and you get your stuff immediately, not in 2 days. Shipping is free.

      Gas, wear and tear on your car, the car payment itself, and driving time are not free.

      Plus, some people live in the sticks.

    3. Re:Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      When it comes to books, only if you're lucky enough to be in a town which places a heavy value on reading. If not, and you want it quick, online ordering is the only option.

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    4. Re:Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by sonic_ak · · Score: 1

      Also worth mentioning is people who don't own a car and use public tranportation, a motorcycle or a bicycle for everything. I ride everywhere, and I hate picking up big stuff, most of the time, it would just be easier to order it off Amazon, if not for the shipping charge. Looks like I have a solution now.

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    5. Re:Not a bad deal if you always want it NOW by Eric+Savage · · Score: 1

      There is also sales tax to consider, which can be noticeable (5% here in MA), on larger items.

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  18. This should be in shop.slashdot.org by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    News for Shoppers. Ways to save.

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    1. Re:This should be in shop.slashdot.org by game+kid · · Score: 1

      I doubt this will fly with Amazon's patented, proprietary "1-click" "feature"--a lot of Slashdot readers prefer free software, last time I checked. I personally wonder what would motivate them to patent such a thing--no wait! It's that missing step...

      1. Create online store
      2. Patent "1-click" shopping
      3. Profit!

      That said, if a shop.slashdot.org can help us save, consider my name second in teh petition.

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  19. Two-day shipping by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have never bought two-day shipping for fed-ex or ups packages, yet receive everything within 2 business days of physical ship. Not just amazon either.

    I once used two-day shipping with USPS, they lost the package, and found it again two weeks later. They kindly told me that two day shipping does not guarantee two-days to get there. I asked what the two-day shipping meant then, and I got a trout look.

    Does two-day shipping price really mean anything?

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    1. Re:Two-day shipping by mboverload · · Score: 1

      No, not really. They don't try any harder to get your package on time because it will get there on time anyway. I always pay for the cheapest and I have never had any problem getting a package more than 3 days. A big scam.

    2. Re:Two-day shipping by jgerry · · Score: 1

      Awesome for you!

      Do you live in a warehouse??

    3. Re:Two-day shipping by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      Ummmmmmmm, no. Apparently from the other reply, I am not the only one. Have you had a different experience? And are you sure that the shipper really shipped right away?

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    4. Re:Two-day shipping by binder520 · · Score: 1

      USPS is no where close to the service and reliability of FedEx and UPS.

      Have you ever used the USPS package tracking system? It is not timely at all! It usually does not get updated until i have my package in hand.

    5. Re:Two-day shipping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never get anything in two days, even if I pay for 2 day shipping. Stuff from Amazon takes about 8 days on average, I think (with the cheapest shipping option).

      Probably a location thing. I live in a rural area in Utah.

    6. Re:Two-day shipping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the package tracking is more useful for people to find out that the package has arrived than where it is in the world AT THIS EXACT MOMENT. On that note, I haven't found FedEx or UPS to be all that much better, as I usually get things fast enough anyway that their tracking services are more of use for amusement than "OMG WHERE IS MY PACKAGE" type thing.

    7. Re:Two-day shipping by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Apparently from the other reply, I am not the only one. Have you had a different experience?

      I don't think I've ever received anything that fast with ground shipping. It's usually about five days, possibly longer. Then again, I live in Montana. The roads here are terrible, their care even worse, and there's vast stretchs of land betwean any of the towns.

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    8. Re:Two-day shipping by cmjensen · · Score: 1

      I guess I order from Amazon with free ship more than you...

      With free shipping, if it ships from Nevada, I get it overnight here in California. But if it ships from Texas or Kentucy the physical shipment always takes a week.

      Also, because I use free shipping, they physically ship it when they damn well feel like it... which can be up to another four days.

      So depending upon the number of shipments you do per year, this could be cheaper than always using 2-day. But yeah, do the math first.

  20. Birthday clearing houses by suso · · Score: 1

    So will birthdays become like serials numbers?

    Birthdates are the new serial numbers.

    1. Re:Birthday clearing houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not until they start recording date of birth, and also time of birth to 10^-6 of a second and this way everyone will be guaranteed to have a unique number

    2. Re:Birthday clearing houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll use my dog's birthday, his birthday changes every month.

    3. Re:Birthday clearing houses by sapgau · · Score: 1

      More like a hash key.

    4. Re:Birthday clearing houses by Scorillo47 · · Score: 1

      1) Sell your birthdate on eBay.
      2) ...
      3) Profit!

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  21. The small print by the_mighty_$ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The free shipping/$3.99 overnight is only available if you purchase directly from Amazon. i.e. it is not available if you purchase from third party Amazon Marketplace or zShops sellers.

    For many items, Amazon is actually competing with third party sellers that are selling on their site. This new service might be the incentive necessary for many people to not buy from third party sellers, but to only buy from Amazon which will result in more money for them. That could be one of the reasons behind introducing Amazon Prime.

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    1. Re:The small print by amyhughes · · Score: 1

      There's already reason to order from Amazon when some of their third-party sellers have the same item. The fewer businesses that have your shipping info the less junk mail you'll receive. I already look for the item directly from Amazon, because they already have my address. I'm getting catalogs from some of their third-party sellers and I'd rather not.

    2. Re:The small print by rackhamh · · Score: 1

      3rd party books often sell for a *fraction* of Amazon's price, especially if you don't have any issues with lightly used books. It's going to take a lot more than "free" (which it isn't) shipping to convince me to buy from Amazon instead.

    3. Re:The small print by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      For many items, Amazon is actually competing with third party sellers that are selling on their site.

      Not bloody likely considering the fees that Amazon charges both to the seller and for S/H on each order (of which they keep a portion--it is not 100% passed thru to the seller). Either way Amazon wins.

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    4. Re:The small print by angle_slam · · Score: 1

      CDs too. There is no real reason to buy new CDs (unless you believe in supporting the artists) either.

    5. Re:The small print by jizmonkey · · Score: 1

      And used underwear. I can save $10/pair by not padding Calvin Klein's wallet. A spritz of bleach and a quick wash cycle on "hot" and they're as good as new!

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  22. Dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...you can ask Optimus yourself.

  23. Big Sale at Walgreens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, I submitted the above story. How come mine didn't get posted? Sheesh. Slashdot SPAM for Nerds.

  24. Amazon is evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If you're a university student you should be able to realize that buying from Amazon is supporting IP patents. That's evil.

    DON'T DO IT!

    1. Re:Amazon is evil by randallpowell · · Score: 1

      If your a university student, you'd realize your broke from tutions, book prices, beer, and hookers. Grants and loans help but not always.

    2. Re:Amazon is evil by robertjw · · Score: 1

      Of course, if you can screw them by getting everyone in your dorm to abuse their $79 shipping promotion, then that's OK.

  25. This is news? by mboverload · · Score: 1

    Where is the "nerd" in this news? This is just a marketing ploy.

    1. Re:This is news? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Where is the "nerd" in this news? This is just a marketing ploy.

      I disagree. It's a marketing ploy, but it's not just a marketing ploy. For those of us that labor in the e-commerce world, this is just one more step towards the average Joe (you know, the guy that will have Linux on his desktop RSN) thinking Online First, Drive To Mall Second. That's a good thing for every nerd that likes our economy to invest in bandwidth, more 'puters, software, and geeks to run it all. More online business is good for the entire Geekiverse.

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    2. Re:This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Where is the "nerd" in this news? This is just a marketing ploy

      Apparently, the editors at /. can't tell the difference. I love the math, too: $79 = free.

    3. Re:This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is the "nerd" in this news? This is just a marketing ploy.

      Right on! And /. got paid to put it on the front page. Mod the whole story down "-1 SPAM"

  26. The New WalMart by ChicoLance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are making jokes about this, but this idea could change some of the methods of online/webbased stores. Just think, without having to worry about shipping charges _at all_, then I wouldn't have to worry about making a $5 order for a little kitchen gadget. I wouldn't have to run to the store for something, just go online, and it will be here in a couple of days.

    This should really increase the sales of some of their smaller items. If I've got to get a couple new drill bits for this weekend's project, I can just click and get it and not have to run to Home Depot.

    This is a cool idea if it makes the consumer think first about ordering online, and not as a second or third choice.

    1. Re:The New WalMart by CactusInvasion · · Score: 1

      and no sales tax!

    2. Re:The New WalMart by Holi · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you but I have a HomeDepot and a Wallmart in my state. I get to pay sales tax. oh yay(deadpan)

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    3. Re:The New WalMart by rackhamh · · Score: 1

      and no sales tax!

      You must not live in California.

    4. Re:The New WalMart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true. Just last week there was an item I wanted to order from amazon. It cost about $3, but with shipping would have been more like $10. So I bought it locally for $8.

      I'd order a lot more of the little items if I didn't have to worry about shipping. Enough to make it pay for itself? I don't know, but the convenience factor alone is worth something too. I don't always watch $20 worth of movies in a month, but I love netflix. This seems like a smart move by Amazon.

    5. Re:The New WalMart by danrik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Excellent point. I think that this is really the reason for the move. There are also numerous times that I spend a lot of time when purchasing online to find the best shipping deals - places that are close to me and standard shipping vs. places that are far away with express shipping. This type of deal could really sway folks, especially in situation where the shipping price is the deciding factor in the choice of online merchant.

    6. Re:The New WalMart by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      This is a cool idea if it makes the consumer think first about ordering online

      Please, we are called "customers".

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    7. Re:The New WalMart by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      I live in Oregon, no sales tax anyway! (Insensitve clod).

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    8. Re:The New WalMart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

      You don't call yourself a "resource" when you're discussing your job, do you?

    9. Re:The New WalMart by igrp · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Just think, without having to worry about shipping charges _at all_, then I wouldn't have to worry about making a $5 order for a little kitchen gadget. I wouldn't have to run to the store for something, just go online, and it will be here in a couple of days.

      Personally, I would love that. There's a lot of stuff that I need or like but don't need right away (actually, mostly anything outside of groceries).

      The problem here is, however, that Amazon still has to pay for the shipping. And even if they can bring their own handling expenses way down, and get a great bulk rate by either buying a shipping company or at least cooperating with them, there's still a per shipping charge. And eventually someone is going to have to pick up the tab.

      This sort of reminds me of 1999. Back then, during the bubble, when people thought it was actually a feasible business model to offer cat chow online. And consumers would pay $6.95 S&H on a two-dollar item.

      Back then, we had this local grocery store that offered online orders. Really nothing out of the ordinary. They set up a basic webshopping system on a NT box and offered free deliveries (think: small grocery store chain & big, big city). The way they thought the whole thing would work was basically this: regulars customers would still come into the store but others would be able to conveniently do their regular grocery shopping online and have it delivered to their houses at a time of their choosing. That would have worked fairly well. The problem was that everybody and their mother literally started to order individual stick of gum and have it delivered (for free) to wherever the hell they happened to be. The company eventually went bankrupt because they refused to adjust (again, this was during the bubble).

      My point is this: with all flat-fee models, someone eventually has to pick up the tab. Netflixx is awesome. I use it myself. It works because people do go on vacation. It works because people do forget about their memberships. It works because people do go out and do stuff during the summer.
      It's going to be tough to offer flat-fee pre-paid shipping on all items without either raising prices on individual items or attaching some strings if people pick up on this.

      Amazon has such a broad inventory that I could easily order something from them every few days. And that could really come back to bite them in the a$$. A business model like that just might be feasible for a company like Amazon. It just might not work very well for a smaller company.

    10. Re:The New WalMart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note that Amazon has already made free shipping work for their SuperSaver stuff. Considering that Amazon got out of the rake-selling business a long time ago, the shipping fees are probably low enough that they're willing to trade profit margin for volume. Remember, someone is picking up the tab for this so-called "free lunch": every item you buy contributes to Amazon's profits. Or were you forgetting that they happen to make money when they sell you stuff? :)

    11. Re:The New WalMart by PMuse · · Score: 1
      People are making jokes about this, but this idea could change some of the methods of online/webbased stores.

      Two things:

      1. That means Amazon has probably patented this business method.

      2. Corps will do anything to get you to subscribe to a service you may or may not actually use. They know that if a large population signs up, they'll make out. It's like selling insurance. Guaranteed, predictable cash flow makes them happy.

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    12. Re:The New WalMart by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

      Well, amazon protects them from having to ship you a stick of gum for "free" because of the $25 min order.

      As for the 80/year free thing, well they're counting on not everyone takes advantage of it to its full extent, thus profit!
      Grump

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    13. Re:The New WalMart by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1

      Umm, according to whom?

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    14. Re:The New WalMart by tmortn · · Score: 1

      Yes but I doubt the cat food people had Amazon's volume or profit margians. My guess is there is a sweetheart deal between them and UPS where UPS cuts cost for volume as well. They already have super saving shipping working. Now Amazon has fairly well established volume of shipping and they reach a deal with UPS to up create a class of super saving volume based rates to cover cheap 2nd day delivery options.

      Hell for all we know UPS, FedEx and Amazon simply extended the exact same terms that cover super savings to cover this at the cost of a percentage of the per customer charge. In otherwords far as Amazon goes this is the exact same economics as super savings except it now comes with up front money from the customer.

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    15. Re:The New WalMart by synx · · Score: 1

      ups == teh sux!!!

      I can't wait until amazon starts using DHL (airborne's infrastructure in the US) and avoids the mega-hub problem that UPS and FedEx have.

      Go DHL!! Kick ass on UPS (their tracking sucks damnit)

  27. What are geeks doing ordering from Amazon anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I thought we all still hated them for the lawsuits over 1 click shopping?!?

  28. I don't get it... by tekiegreg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My packages from amazon come in 2-3 days anyways typically. Maybe once in awhile they drag their feet out to 5 days but if it's urgent I'd usually just pay the extra $ for 2 day or overnight anyways. Sorry Amazon I'll stick with your standard model. Though I especially like the Super Saver shipping on packages I don't care too much about when they come anyways :-)

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  29. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 1

    I agree. I regularly use free shipping, and sometimes it delays it from going out the door as fast as it otherwise would, but a lot of the time I seem to get it just about as fast as if I said to rush things.

  30. Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyway by cshay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've noticed that when I order stuff with Supersaver free shipping during a non-holiday period, the stuff arrives amazingly fast.

    Considering that, I think you would have to order huge amounts of items per year for this to be worth it.

  31. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps Amazon.com is planning on phasing out their Free Shipping?

  32. Don't think so. by mckwant · · Score: 3, Informative

    I did an order a while ago for some books through some of the resellers, and their S&H is separate from Amazon's. Turned out to be cheaper overall to pay the $0.33/book extra to Amazon, and ship for free.

    YMMV.

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  33. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even with picking the super-saver shipping, I have always received my goods in 2-4 days which is good enough never to need it any faster.

    This is asssuming they have the item in stock, however. The only bone I have to pick is a book I odered in December. On the Amazon site, it said "usually ships in 2-3 days." After many delays, I still don't have my book. It seems "ships in 2-3 days" really means they get it from a distributor and usually in "2-3 days". In this particular case, it was backodered for months. It would have been nice to know this before I ordered, but according to customer service, they don't update their shipping estimates when they have delay from the distrbutor. Oh well. No company can be perfect but I'm more careful with "2-3 day" items.

  34. Uh... by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

    How would such a bookstore make a profit? Most bookstores order wholesale, not retail.

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    1. Re:Uh... by quandrum · · Score: 1

      Wholesale stock.

      Retail special orders in 2 days, with no commitment to purchase.

      Stores don't use this sort of thing to make money, they use it to earn customer loyalty. The customer knows they can get books of the internet. The store's there to let them touch and feel, and hopefully offer someone who has read it to talk to.

      They get all their books in one place, and if they decide they don't like the book once it's in there hands, they can refuse. The store has a wider selection, and can always restock refused orders.

      Sometimes the long term dollar is better than the short term....

  35. This service is for the continental US only by snuf23 · · Score: 1

    This would be a great service - but not for me. Sometimes living on an island in the middle of the Pacific ocean has disadvantages.

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    1. Re:This service is for the continental US only by Dante333 · · Score: 1

      You live in Alaska too?

    2. Re:This service is for the continental US only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not kidding - I'm in New Zealand, and recently just bought some stuff from Amazon - a third of the cost was shipping!

      The sad thing was that the overall cost of items was still quite a bit cheaper than trying to buy in New Zealand.

    3. Re:This service is for the continental US only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you had to pay a custom duty on it while it was crossing international borders, then that's probably where the bulk of the shipping fee went. It can be often cheaper (though riskier) to try and ship something valuable as bulk cargo. :) Of course, if the custom inspectors check, they might just decide to "lose" your package.

    4. Re:This service is for the continental US only by sapgau · · Score: 1

      For a moment I thought you were living on Vancouver Island :-D

      /Ferries suck

  36. And I always thought amazon US would be all free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The stuff I bought here at Amazon Germany usually shipped within 2 days or less (depends on the ordering time and well germany isn't that large and DHL/German Post is usually quite fast for standard packets inner germany) without any special treatment and free shipping is standard anyways from 20 up without any qualifications, books are send for free from 0 on ...

    I always thought amazon.com had free inner-US shipping for anything, looks like that was my imagination

  37. Peer review by October_30th · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hey, I submitted the above story. How come mine didn't get posted?

    As everybody here knows, Slashdot adheres to a strict peer review standard for each and every one of the submitted stories. It is just impossible that your story would be rejected unfairly.

    Ok. Maybe that was just a dream I had last night.

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    1. Re:Peer review by Reignking · · Score: 5, Funny

      Re-submit in two days. I'm sure they'll repost it.

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    2. Re:Peer review by wembley · · Score: 1

      Or, for $79.95/year, all your duplicate submissions will automatically be posted two days later.

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  38. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best is when you're really close to the shipping center for whoever you're buying from. If I buy electronics stuff from buy.com, I can get their free budget shipping and get what I bought in 1-2 days. Their shipping depot is in Carol Stream, Illinois which is a suburb of Chicago. So pretty much anybody in the chicago area can get essentially second day shipping for nothing.

  39. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Life2Short · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Exactly why this new service sounds like a waste of money to me. Regardless of what sort of shipping speed I select, it has always been my experience that Amazon ships when they're ready, and their projected dates often have no relationship to reality. I have even received items in the mail on the same day that I got an email from Amazon apologizing that they wouldn't be able to ship the item for some time. Whoever sends the emails that project shipping dates needs to communicate with the folks who are actually shipping stuff out the door.

  40. crooked people on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently the only way they will enforce this family-only sharing clause is by mandating that your "family members" know your birthday."

    It just goes to show you how crooked the average /.er is. Leave it to Timothy to point out how easy it is to defraud a merchant. But, just like song-stealing, I'm sure that the average clown on /. will find a way to justify ripping off Amazon. Like I always say, relative morality simply means that you can choose what you want/don't want to do and then find a way to make it seem like it's moral.

  41. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hold on a second skippy...

    "My fiancé needed to use autorouting to get around town with her sister dress shopping and autorouting would be the best way."
    What are you babbling on about? What do you mean by "autorouting" and how does it allow people to get around town? Please answer, I am intrigued.
  42. Shhhhh! by winkydink · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're not supposed to do the math!

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    1. Re:Shhhhh! by verch · · Score: 1

      I did the math. This is awesome. Just last week I needed some books ASAP that I couldn't get locally. I've already spent like $25 this year on express shipping from Amazon. I will save way more than $79 with this. It's brilliant for Amazon too, I'm sure I'll buy way more stuff from them now knowing I can get anything in 2 days for nothing extra.

    2. Re:Shhhhh! by winkydink · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are a marketing department's wet dream. They get you to pay for something and then you give them more business to justify having made your purchase. Think about it.

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    3. Re:Shhhhh! by rm999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah - that's the point. Some people will sign up for this deal, and in the process give amazon more business. Hopefully, those people thought it out and will save money from the deal. Seems win-win to me. Instead of driving to walmart to buy a widget for 3 dollars, they can go to amazon and get it for 2 dollars without paying 5 dollars shipping. Anything that screws over walmart is good in my book :)

      At the same time, I know this deal would be terrible for a person like me - Most of the things I buy are more than 25 dollars, and I don't mind shopping at the store everynow and then. I could see this being useful for people who live in a more rural setting who can't as easily run to the store for something small.

    4. Re:Shhhhh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Anything that screws over walmart is good in my book :)

      Huh? Let's see drive to walmart get widget for $3 in an 20-30 minutes (commute + checkout time) or pay $2 and wait 2 days for it to be shipped to me? I think I'll go to walmart instead. Personally, anything that walmart crushes is good in my book :)

  43. Amazon Prime? by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was anyone else expecting a first-person adventure game based on the venerable Amazon series?

  44. Too expensive? by dutt · · Score: 1
    All you need to do is to get a bunch of friends together and share the cost of one single subscription.

    Then order everything through that account...

    Now, thats if you are stingy. But if you are going to order a lot of stuff, it's definately worth it.

    Nice one amazaon :)

  45. Who cares about shipping... by FuryG3 · · Score: 1

    When it takes them a week to "ship" the item. Both B&N and Amazon have this nasty habit of taking forever to ship many items. They give you *free* 3-day shipping, but they take 2 weeks to get started on it.

    Here's another annoying feature I found (this one at B&N). I ordered a LOT of books (about 15) and took the free 3-day shipping. They had to break the order up into 3 shipments at different times (over about 4 weeks). EVERY SINGLE TIME they "shipped" (gave me my tracking number) on a wednesday night, which means they gave the product to UPS on thursday morning. Magically UPS now has an extra day to handle the package, because they don't deliver on Sundays.

    I thought it might be coincidence at first, but after the 3rd time I figure they had some sort of an agreement with UPS. Now I don't ever pay extra for fast shipping, because they can still have you waiting for weeks anyhow...

    1. Re:Who cares about shipping... by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
      Have you tried doing a special order from your local independent bookstore? I realize that in such an instance you won't get it straight to your door, but these people are under a lot of pressure to deliver, thanks to the web-based retailers, and they'll happily take special orders. Trust me, I buy a lot of books and the local people will give discounts on volume special orders because they don't have to stock them and they want repeat customers.

      And you're correct about the UPS shenanigans. I prefer FedEx whenever it's available because they arrive early in the morning, as opposed to late in the day when I'm at work. They also will leave packages unsigned at your request, whereas their big brown competitor will not.

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  46. Not "free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For $79, you get free two-day shipping

    Pardon me, but if you *pay* for it, then it isn't *free*. Perhaps submitter intended "unlimited" rather than "free"?

    1. Re:Not "free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, if they actually paid attention in Marketing 101, they would've said:

      For $79, you get FREE UNLIMITED two-day shipping

  47. Right, but no more $25 minimum by Infinity+Salad · · Score: 1
    While SS shiping can be quite fast, I have found myself ordering extra things I didn't really need to get up to the $25 you need for SS shipping.

    (e.g., I want something for $20, but shipping would be $5, so I buy some $6 book and get free shipping)

    1. Re:Right, but no more $25 minimum by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      "While SS shiping can be quite fast, I have found myself ordering extra things I didn't really need to get up to the $25 you need for SS shipping."

      You've sussed the operating model behind SS shipping.

      You don't win a prize. I think you actually end up paying a premium, because it seems that a whole lot of other people have figured this out as well, and now Amazon is trying a new approach.

      You don't really think SS shipping will be available after this subscription model rolls, do you?

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    2. Re:Right, but no more $25 minimum by Infinity+Salad · · Score: 1
      SS shipping probably will still be available, because it encourages people to spend $25 at a minimum. Not everyone is going to want to shell out $80 for free shipping.

      The point of my post wasn't to shine the light on how amazon is encouraging people to spend $25, but rather to point out that once you spend the $80, you won't feel compelled to add on that extra purchase to hit $25.

      (On the other hand, you will instead feel compelled to buy everything you can from amazon to get the most out of your $80. But then you knew that didn't you, Mr. Snarkypants?)

  48. Oops by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Between my subscription and Squid-Sleezeball proxy and Mozilla, I thought I was filtering ads. Looks like this one got through, though.

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    1. Re:Oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't renew your subscription - the only way Slashdot will learn is by hitting them in the pocket...

      (Just remember to send them an email succintly explaining why you aren't renewing your subscription - it helps to tell companies when you aren't buying from them anymore :)

  49. Amazon to patent 1-click Slashdot story submission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as cheapest form of advertising to millions?

  50. incontinent bastards... by viva_fourier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, although it took little energy, I had to click to "Learn more about Amazon Prime" before I realized they only ship to continental US. So, Alaska & Hawaii (not to mention US Territories) miss out again! It's too bad we still can't sign up for the same deal and just pay the difference in 2-day/overnight shipping. Considering we don't have a ground option to begin with(here in Hawaii), this would be a nice token gesture.

    *sigh*

    Oh well, I'm sure hope these work-provided mai-tai's can ease my pain...

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    1. Re:incontinent bastards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UPS Ground ships to Hawaii. Try the "Calculate Time and Cost" at ups.com.

      If Amazon doesn't pass it on to you, vote with your feet.

    2. Re:incontinent bastards... by viva_fourier · · Score: 1

      We do get super-saver shipping via US Priority -- gets here in about 10-12 days. Anything on the "ground" is usually shipped via barge, taking about 4-6 weeks.

      So, 10 days isn't too shabby. No complaints there, just complaining that AK/HI don't receive cost-comparable options to that of the mainland.

      Also, does "vote with your feet" apply to online shopping...

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    3. Re:incontinent bastards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we forcibly take your land, impose our laws on it, and you don't even get $79/year 2-day shipping from Amazon.

      There's injustice in there somewhere.

  51. Its not free by p373 · · Score: 0

    you are paying $79 to join...

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  52. Sparkamus Prime by rhizome · · Score: 1

    The Barbeaubot will surely rule them all with the D Cups of Justice.

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  53. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Funny

    And wouldn't it have made more sense to just buy a wedding dress at the first store they went to, even if it cost $400 more? :)

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  54. So a leap year returns the best value by FerretFrottage · · Score: 1

    Get a whole extra day of "free" shipping

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  55. Good way to make money - order stuff for others. by DroopyStonx · · Score: 1

    Tell your friends, co-workers, etc. and order things for them overnight. Charge $5 under what Amazon charges, or your own small fee.

    You make a killing.

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  56. Not a bad idea, but who needs it? by digitalgimpus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I ask this simply because I don't know anyone who pays extra for shipping.

    These days it seems that you order online if you want a good price, and you go to the store if you want it quick.

    I personally calculate shipping into the price, and compare. It seems there's always 1 place that offers free shipping these days. I'll wait an extra day or 2 for free shipping.

    I got a LCD TV from Amazon.com. Did free shipping. 48hrs after I ordered UPS was at the door. Yea, that's right. 48hrs, and free shipping.

    In most cases I found it's well under a week.

    IMHO I would never pay extra for shipping. Want me as a customer? Think free.

    If they let me pay $x a year for all the shipping for a year (unlimited shopping and no shipping)... I would consider that.

    But not to make shipping faster. Never. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

    1. Re:Not a bad idea, but who needs it? by barfy · · Score: 1

      If they let me pay $x a year for all the shipping for a year (unlimited shopping and no shipping)... I would consider that.

      Free 2 day shipping for a year... Now will you consider this?

    2. Re:Not a bad idea, but who needs it? by jac1962 · · Score: 1

      Try living at Edwards Air Force Base for two years.

      The nearest book store is a forty-minute drive away in Palmdale, CA.

      You'd use it

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    3. Re:Not a bad idea, but who needs it? by digitalgimpus · · Score: 1

      That's different...

      I'm paying extra, for service I don't need.

      I want to pay less for free ground.

      The point is to save money... not throw it away.

    4. Re:Not a bad idea, but who needs it? by Eric+Savage · · Score: 1

      "If they let me pay $x a year for all the shipping for a year (unlimited shopping and no shipping)... I would consider that."

      They just did, fool.

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  57. Family? Wouldn't it be smarter? by Telastyn · · Score: 1

    To do it per shipping address?

  58. This is why I use BN.com (FOR ME) by chadamir · · Score: 1

    In the NY/NJ area, over a certain price they'll express ship for free. I've gotten stuff ordered at 7 pm the next day at 4 for no extra cost. Although amazon usually beats BN on price, if I factor in shipping, BN sometimes wins.

  59. Much money for them by sterno · · Score: 1

    On average they might lose a little bit of money on the deal in pure shipping, but I'm sure they'll make up for it hugely in sales.

    I mean, if you pay them the $79 why would you order something from someplace else? Let's say a book you'd buy is $5 cheaper at B&N. Well, when you add on shipping, it's really not any cheaper than it would be from Amazon. So then you buy it at Amazon.

    Furthermore, let's say you do buy lots of stuff to get the most for your money. As long as the margin on each item is greater than what they are losing in shipping, they'll be ecstatic.

    The other thing is that if they can guarantee a certain amount of second day shipping business, they can probably get some nice discounts from UPS/FedEx. So that'll end up reducing their overall costs.

    As for your specific exploit of the heavy books, I would guarantee that the margins they make on those heavy text books are huge, regardless of shipping, so they can afford to take a hit. I'm fairly certain they charge a flat fee for shipping books anyhow, so I think they already accounted for the variances in weight. You'd actually do them more harm by purchasing a lot of cheap things where the margins are minimal.

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    1. Re:Much money for them by PornMaster · · Score: 1

      For that matter, they may have gotten the shipper to provide flat-rate to the address for $50/yr and marked it up...

  60. Forgot to mention PER YEAR by Rangsk · · Score: 1

    The slashdot blurb forgot to mention that this is a $79 charge per year. The first time I read it I thought it was $79/mo, then I read it again, saw no timeframe, and thought it was $79 for your lifetime. Now I actually RTFA (read the f-ing ad) and it's $79/year. Wouldn't this be important to include in the description?

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    1. Re:Forgot to mention PER YEAR by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 3, Informative

      The article description might not but the article title does:

      "Amazon Offers 2-Day Shipping For $79/Year"

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    2. Re:Forgot to mention PER YEAR by Rangsk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, titles really shouldn't contain information that the blurb does not contain. Oh well, I guess I should look more carefully next time.

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    3. Re:Forgot to mention PER YEAR by gustavoguevara · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but if you look at the terms and conditions, $79/ year is the introductory price, and it states clearly:

      "You understand your membership will automatically renew and you authorize us to charge to your credit or debit card (without notice to you) the then-applicable annual membership fee and any taxes, unless you notifiy us before renewal that you want to cancel your membership."
      (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t g/browse/-/138 19201/pop-up/104-9696966-1011900)

      The "Then-Applicable" phrase is the one that's not cool, since if this service rises in price, you will automatically get billed more ...

  61. Customer retention by binder520 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see this offer as an innovative marketing mechanism aimed at increasing customer retention and rewarding their current list of loyal customers.

    Loyal customers already do most of their shopping @ amazon, so this offer will just be a way to save on shipping costs. The biggest impact is on customers that make a significant number of their purchases online, but not exclusively at Amazon. An offer like this might be enough to push them over the edge to become Amazon exclusive shoppers.

  62. Uhhh... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
    But what about the power buyers (like myself) who get heavy textbooks, heavier textbooks, and even heavier textbooks (grr @ orgo)? It just doesn't seem like it's cost-effective, but maybe I'm missing something..?

    They're still making money on the books. Most companies would kill to have such a "problem," and I imagine they number themselves among them.

  63. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by randallpowell · · Score: 1

    You don't happen to work at Amazon.com do you?

  64. Still no Instant Gratification by Axis+of+Weasel · · Score: 1

    maybe i lack the ability to plan but if i order something i either need it right away or I can wait about a week for it.

    so this really is no help, at least for me

    although the no sales tax is a huge bonus...

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  65. Re:Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyw by allgood2 · · Score: 1

    I agree with you. I use to be one of Amazon.com's prime Next Day FedEx shipping when they had it. But when they switched to UPS, I'd pay for the 2nd day shipping and never receive the item (well, receive it 4-5 days out after numerous exception errors--it never made it on the truck--from UPS. Finally, I just decided no more urgent shipping, and to use the Free Shipping whenever possible (for me that's about 75% of my orders). Well, since I've been using Free Shipping almost all of my items arrive within two days. The other day, Thursday or Friday, I order 3 books, and was told delivery was estimated for February 4. I received 2 of the books on Monday. Apparently, paying extra for special handling, just means that UPS will screw-up.

  66. This is news???? by jayloden · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm sorry...this is news? I must have mistyped the url, I was looking for "news for nerds. Stuff that MATTERS"

    -Jay

    1. Re:This is news???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you. C'mon /. - get with the program!

  67. Re:Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyw by kaszeta · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've noticed that when I order stuff with Supersaver free shipping during a non-holiday period, the stuff arrives amazingly fast.

    I'm sure this depends on where you are. Typically if I use their Supersaver shipping, it's a real crapshoot. Typically, when I do Supersaver, it ends up getting shipped via Airborne/DHL. This has two problems:

    1. For some reason, packages shipped to my office (zip code 03755) have a disturbing tendency to get shipped to the DHL office in Enfield, NH (just down the road), and then spend 4 or 5 days bouncing around "Wilmington, OH" with "Failed delivery attempts" before showing up here. I'm still not sure whether the packages actually get diverted to Wilmington, OH, or if their tracking system is just screwed, but in either case it takes either 4-5 days or quite a bit of bitching to get them to unwedge their system and cough up my package. This has happened 4 times so far
    2. Airborne also has a real history of re-using tracking numbers. It's fun wondering where my product is, and they *insist* that a package shipped on 1/28/05 to Hanover, NH was actually delivered on 1/06/05 to Morrisville, NC. Meanwhile, the actual package is still bouncing around... (this one came from Adobe, not Amazon, however)

    I've found it's worth the extra few bucks to actually have my packages delivered...

    I could give a tracking number for these so that you could all take a gander, but that would violate the terms of their usage agreement. Hmmm, for some reason the number 71868976281 comes to mind...

  68. Re:Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyw by AceCaseOR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or, alternatively, if you and a bunch of roommates are college students, you can use this to save money on textbooks (although you save more money from buying used on Amazon rather than their list price.

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  69. Re:And I always thought amazon US would be all fre by Dahan · · Score: 1
    and well germany isn't that large

    Exactly--the US is slightly larger than Germany; hence, it takes more time and money to ship things.

  70. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by sahonen · · Score: 1

    I ordered the Battlestar Galactica Miniseries DVDs on the 30th. Predicated arrival date with free shipping, the 8th-10th. Actual arrival date, tomorrow. The free shipping is an awesome deal.

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  71. not too bad by TouchOfRed · · Score: 1

    This doesnt seem like such a bad idea. This is a great idea mainly because it entices those who currently do not buy from amazon to do so, and as well, will encourage people to buy MORE from amazon. There will always be abusers of the system, but they are in very small numbers. Hell, I think even might start buying from them instead of ebayer's.

  72. OK... by LilMikey · · Score: 1

    Anyone who wants to know my birthday, paypal me $20.

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  73. Autorouting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Autorouting is having you handheld GPS receiver automatically compute turn-by-turn directions. It's very useful when trying to find 1000 urban micros in Cacheville, TN, for example.

    That said, excellent receiver, even if I'm a Magellanite myself, and congrats on the fianceness.

  74. Re:Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyw by Drakonian · · Score: 1

    Yes, since supersaver is free you'd actually have to order an infinite amount of items per year.

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  75. Great... by dmarx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I can't tell any non-family my birthday without Amazon suing me for breaking their copy protection.

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  76. To my esteemed colleagues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As nerds, our time is far too important to spend on "meatspace" shopping, thus, we purchase things through the interweb, allowing us to never leave our domiciles. Amazon.com is a distinguished online retailer, and thus, special offers may pique some interest among us.

  77. Amazong deals are sketch by ASAPnetworks · · Score: 1

    I remember a couple of summers ago my girlfriend telling me about this awesome promotion that amazong was having. For $20 you get a years membership to some club where the only perk is that you get 10% off your first $200 of purchases.....

    she couldn't wait to join either.. needless to say.. she's not a math student ;)

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    1. Re:Amazong deals are sketch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you were both ordering from Amazong.com - loosely affiliated with eBaye.com.

  78. Re:What are geeks doing ordering from Amazon anywa by tapo · · Score: 1
    We're geeks. We bitch, and moan, and whine, and threaten to boycott a certain company for being evil, even if we like their product.

    But when it actually comes to boycotting, nobody cares. Look at this topic on Amazon, how many slashdotters use Windows to play Half-Life 2 (with steam) and look at how popular World of Warcraft is, and people still play Blizzard games even after that whole Bnetd thing. Not to mention the popularity of iTunes and such services which go to support the RIAA.

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  79. It's way geek! by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    Amazon Prime = Amazon' = d Amazon / d ShippingCost as d ShippingCost -> 0

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  80. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by Grant29 · · Score: 1

    I agree. I'm pretty happy with their Super Saver program, so as long as they don't drop the free shipping I like the new options. I can use it or not. It's probably better for some other people who are ordering more than I am.

  81. Super Saver dates intentionally overstated? by Infinity+Salad · · Score: 1
    After having so many SS items arrive ahead of their scheduled dates, I am beginning to get the impression that amazon gives you the worst-case scenario in an attempt to sell you the 'guaranteed' quick shipping options.

    I cannot count the number of times I have recieved my confirmation email giving a date two weeks away for arrival, along with the option to 'upgrade my shipping'; I do nothing and the next day I get a 'your order has shipped' email giving the arrival date as 2-4 days.

    Anyone else see a pattern here?

  82. Continental US only. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Wonder how much business Amazon does with international buyers (Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Europe, China, etc.) I doubt that they'd break it down to that degree, though.

    This promotion means jack to me -- I live in Australia, and it'd save me a small fortune in book shipping. Oh, well, guess I'll just buy my books from booksellers that will import from the major sources (UK, US, and Australia), and charge a flat fee for shipping within Australia, regardless of where the books come from. (I'm pretty sure those three are outsourced to the same company, but I don't care -- as long as the books arrive in good condition and at a reasonable price, I'm happy.)

  83. this isn't "News", it's an advertisement. by cas2000 · · Score: 1

    and it's not "free shipping", either. it's pre-paying $79 for shipping every eligible item you buy from amazon in a year - which means you have to make at least 10 or 20 separate orders for it to be worthwhile.

    can i interest you in a $100000 subscription to an amazing service which gives you 4 free cars per year? wow! it's free!

    1. Re:this isn't "News", it's an advertisement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. If I get to pick the cars.

    2. Re:this isn't "News", it's an advertisement. by cas2000 · · Score: 1

      yes, you will get to choose from an impressive range of pre-loved cars - all guaranteed to be less than 30 years old, and at least "95% rust-free".

      see the fine print for further details.

  84. It's only $14.99 to ship by ufoman · · Score: 1, Interesting
    At checkout it told me standard shipping (3 to 7 business days) was only $14.99.

    Items: $19,999.95
    Shipping & Handling: $14.99
    Total Before Tax: $20,014.94
    Estimated Tax:* $0.00
    Order Total: $20,014.94

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    1. Re:It's only $14.99 to ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shipping is essentially free, if you factor in the pi/2 percent discount you get for being an A9 user.

    2. Re:It's only $14.99 to ship by captaincucumber · · Score: 1

      Checkout? Haven't you heard about 1-Click?

  85. Money saving trick... by alienmole · · Score: 1

    ...just order your stuff a few days before you would have ordered it otherwise, and ship it ground!

    1. Re:Money saving trick... by angle_slam · · Score: 1

      First, he has to build a time machine so that he can place an order two days before he thought about it.

  86. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by aacool · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I blogged about Amazon Prime earlier today - assessing some impacts:
    Firstly, evidently Amazon is able to better leverage pricing with the shippers - allowing them greater flexibility in the order fulfilment process. Look for Amazon to acquire/embrace a shipping company - this would mean near-complete vertical integration, and even greater cost efficiency.
    ... also further extends Amazon's utilization of their single-click patent - If signed in and using the Single-Click option, you see additional buttons for Prime purchases, although you can add to the shopping cart and apply the Prime option later too.
    Finally, it should drive up sales for Amazon - people will be more inclined to buy if they can pick up the odd book or two without having to jump through hoops to get it shipped fast and free.Also it locks in customers.

    ...worked out some numbers that would make this palatable. Using the Amazon shipping rates for 2-day shipments, and assuming purchases of books, music and CDs, it would take a purchase volume of 25 books, 15 CDs and 2 electronic items(approx 6 lbs per item) to cover the cost of approx $76. Alternatively, it would take about 4 shipments in the (slower) super saver shipping scheme. So if this works for you, give it a shot.


    Big shoppers will embrace this model
  87. USA only by Gax · · Score: 0

    Before everyone signs on to this deal, it is available in the US only.

    "Enjoy free second-day shipping on every order or overnight shipping for only $3.99 per item to addresses in the continental United States,"

  88. He gave away his identity... by alienmole · · Score: 1
    I see this offer as an innovative marketing mechanism aimed at increasing customer retention and rewarding their current list of loyal customers.

    Oh, bravo! A classic example of the style, and totally deadpan, too!

    Quick quiz: was the above quote written by:

    1. A drone from Amazon's ad agency, attempting to impress the in-house astroturf review committee
    2. A fresh-faced, shiny-eyed MBA experimenting with his newly-learned lingo
    3. A PHB who accidentally stumbled onto Slashdot while reviewing employee surfing habits
    4. An experimental AI designed to replace corporate managers at any and all levels
    5. An agent from Homeland Security attempting to blend in

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    1. Re:He gave away his identity... by binder520 · · Score: 1

      You forget option "6": none of the above.

      Question: How was my commentary blank and expressionless (deadpan)?

    2. Re:He gave away his identity... by alienmole · · Score: 1

      Option 6 wasn't warranted by the evidence. Don't take it too personally, the comment I quoted was just too PHB-like to pass up.

      As for deadpan, dictionary definitions sometimes don't do justice to words. Try this description. Note the part about being "connotative, in that the circumstances might be expected to require some humor or emotion." On Slashdot, writing like a marketroid, when it's done it all, is often done humorously and/or sarcastically. Doing this without any indication of the intended humor would be an example of deadpan delivery, in the online context. I knew you weren't being humorous, but I was kidding about your deadpanning.

    3. Re:He gave away his identity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your message sounded exactly like a manager explaining to a sales team why they should enjoy
      doing some asinine thing that the salespeople already know the customers hate, like extended warranties and credit offers. The manager frames all this as if it is some kind of wonderful service, but the people on the floor (and the customers) know what's up.

  89. The best reason to buy one right now... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    It comes with terrifying ground effects.

    Also, you simply must read the comments from the Amazon link, including the one about the Hummer and the MINI.

    I had had a perjillion dollars, I would buy one of these and then a few Segways to stuff in the back and some Scout Trooper armor for scouting expeditions.

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  90. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by captaincucumber · · Score: 1

    This word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means.

    You keep saying "fiance" but I think you mean fiancee.

    Sorry for nitpicking, I'm sure she'll make a lovely husband.

  91. The end of truly 'free' shipping? by jmscott42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I haven't seen anyone comment on the possibility that this will be the end of Amazon's "free super saver shipping." They'll yell for a few months about what a great deal this is. Everyone will moan that all you have to do is spend $25 and it's truly "free".

    So Amazon pulls free shipping entirely, leaving you the option of $5+ per order, or $80/year.

    It's brilliant, really, unless consumer backlash is worse than they're prepared for.

    (I will say Best Buy ending their free shipping pretty much put an end to me ordering from them...) [oops, does that make me a Devil Geek, admitting shopping at both BB and Amazon?]

    1. Re:The end of truly 'free' shipping? by xander2032 · · Score: 1

      If they do pull free "super saver" shipping, I probably won't order from Amazon much anymore. For me that's the biggest advantage they have. It's the major reason I shop there. If they start charging for shipping, I'll start buying elsewhere. I really like being able to just toss little things into my order once I hit that $25 mark. And I bet a lot of people are like me in that respect. So in the end Amazon will end up losing customers.

  92. We've hit a new low for consumer culture by eseiat · · Score: 1

    You are seriously categorizing groups of consumers into "good" and "bad" groups? How about the sole problem lies more in our ridiculous consumer culture as opposed to the methods people chose to consume. Get a clue man.

  93. More like Costco by dakirw · · Score: 1

    Sounds more like Costco (or any other membership club) to me - pay your membership fee of $45 or $100 a year, and shop til you drop.


    Clever way of getting people to shop exclusively with Amazon. Unfortunately, the fly in the soup here is that people will still be able to ship for free for $25 purchases. Most ./ers would probably build up big orders for free shipping.

  94. Thinkgeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > News for Shoppers. Ways to save. Stories: *Sale at thinkgeek: FREE slashdot shirt with $50 purchase *Get your free Linux plush toy (just spend $100 at ThinkGeek!) *New toy at ThinkGeek: 300W laser with auto plane locator. Use responsibly. *Linux computer goes on sale at ThinkGeek. It only cost 2x the price of a dell /w Windows *ThinkGeek coupon code to get $5 off. Hurry, expires soon! *Get a free slashdot subscription with a $50 purchase so you can see the ThinkGeek sales 20 minutes early! *New at ThinkGeek: FREE limited edition t-shirt of your chose with your $100 order. *ThinkGeek now sells gift cards. Give one to your favorite slashdot user. *Cowboyneal wants a ThinkGeek gift card. The first person to give him one gets 20 free mod points. (minimum $20) *Michael is making the same offer. Hurry for your mod points. *Cowboyneal wants a ThinkGeek gift card. The first person to give him one gets 20 free mod points. (minimum $20) CN: sorry for the dupe. Sorry, I'm not giving out another 20 mod points, I forgot that I had already submitted the story. Oh well, these $20 donations to OSTG/OSDN are going straight to me. Thanks! *Michael is making the same offer. Hurry for your mod points. M: Yep, it's a dupe. I couldn't let CN cheat like that, so I had to as well.

    1. Re:Thinkgeek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      *Michael is making the same offer. Hurry for your mod points.

      Of course, except that he can't, anymore. Perhaps a last ditch effort to profit off of slashdot?

  95. And this is the "introductory special price" by fv · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your $1500/year assumption also assumes that the price will stay $79/year. Their ad calls this a "special introductory price". The worst thing is that unless you pay enough attention to cancel before hand, they will charge the next non-special, non-introductory fee to your credit card in exactly 12 months without any notification to you. From the Terms and Conditions:

    "YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR MEMBERSHIP WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AND YOU AUTHORIZE US TO CHARGE TO YOUR CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD (WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU) THE THEN-APPLICABLE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE AND ANY TAXES, UNLESS YOU NOTIFY US BEFORE RENEWAL THAT YOU WANT TO CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP."

    They don't provide (AFAICT) any option to buy just one year. By purchasing Amazon Prime you are giving them permission to choose any price and charge it to you next year. They may also "in our discretion change these Terms ... or any aspect of Prime membership without notice to you ... YOUR CONTINUED MEMBERSHIP AFTER WE CHANGE THESE TERMS CONSTITUTES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THE CHANGES." So they can change their terms without telling you, then you automatically accept if you don't immediately notice and cancel. Great!

    I hate it when companies try to pull this. Forcing an annual set fee on people is bad enough -- but to raise the price arbitrarily and still charge people's card without notification is outrageous. This is the kind of thing sleazy porn sites do (or so I hear :).

    There may be some advantages to this program, but I certainly won't sign up until they let me buy ONE YEAR at a known price. None of this blank check nonsense.

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    1. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by angle_slam · · Score: 1
      I HATE companies that auto-renew, especially for a year-long contract. I had a lot of trouble with a home alarm company. No up-front fee, but it's an automatically renewed contract, unless you notify them 30 days in advance. If you don't notify, they will renew the contract and there is no way to get out of it. I moved out of my house 9 days after the year period began. But because I didn't notify them ahead of time. I had to pay for a whole year's worth of alarm service, even though I didn't live in the house.

      Someone told me that California has a law that forbids auto-renew contract with year-long terms. If true, I wonder if it would apply to Amazon.

    2. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sign up, then you click the "don't renew" button... wooooooo, that was hard.

      I hate whiners.

    3. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by bastion_xx · · Score: 2, Informative

      For auto-renew programs, just use a credit card. Technically the merchant should indicate these are recurring payments but most put them through a regular ecommerce transactions.

      When you see the renewal on your credit card statement just call them up and ask for a refund (supposin you don't like the service). Most intelligent merchants will honor such requests.

      Why? Because if they don't you can chargeback the transaction and seeing that this was a card not-present transaction, you're about gauranteed to win any disputes. Plus the merchant knows their card processor will charge them $5-30 per chargeback regardless of the result.

      Amazon (and other merchants that do this) count on people not fighting it. Today I just cancelled my Experian Credit Watch service that "auto renewed". At first I was soft-sold on the "value of the product to know my credit score, etc. A polite "no" then garnered a free $25 gift certificate for either MasterCard or Visa if I kept the subscription. Another "no" and confirmation of the return of funds to my card. I won't dispute the contractual aspects, but I don't like these types of contracts either.

      To keep on-topic, I'll have to check my Amazon purchases for the last year and see if this is of value to me.

    4. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I totally trust users with spam at the end of their posts. Sorry, your credibility 0.

      You didn't even bother to put that shit in your sig.

    5. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by will_die · · Score: 1

      In addition to your credit card check your credit card companies web site and they will probably provide a way that you can create a temporay credit card number.
      You can specify the experation date and the total amount that can be charged to it.
      I always use thoses for anything that has an auto-renewal, if I forget about it and they recharge they cannot get the money. If it is something I do still use they will always send me a piece of e-mail telling me my subscription is about to expire.

    6. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      I did this with Xbox live. Well my xbox died and I figured when card expired they wouldn't continue charging. I was wrong and just got a bill for the months since my card expired.

    7. Re:And this is the "introductory special price" by will_die · · Score: 1

      That should be fairly easy to fight, since the card expired before they billed. A letter to both saying they charged an expired card should be enough to get that going.
      With an actual expired card alot of times you get the same card number but with a new date, with the tempory cards they generate a new number so charging it is not tied to you also it has a maximum withdraw so even if they try to bill out it would come back as insignificant credit amount.

  96. Thinkgeek (formatted right) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > News for Shoppers. Ways to save.

    Stories:

    *Sale at thinkgeek: FREE slashdot shirt with $50 purchase

    *Get your free Linux plush toy (just spend $100 at ThinkGeek!)

    *New toy at ThinkGeek: 300W laser with auto plane locator. Use responsibly.

    *Linux computer goes on sale at ThinkGeek. It only cost 2x the price of a dell /w Windows

    *ThinkGeek coupon code to get $5 off. Hurry, expires soon!

    *Get a free slashdot subscription with a $50 purchase so you can see the ThinkGeek sales 20 minutes early!

    *New at ThinkGeek: FREE limited edition t-shirt of your chose with your $100 order.

    *ThinkGeek now sells gift cards. Give one to your favorite slashdot user.

    *Cowboyneal wants a ThinkGeek gift card. The first person to give him one gets 20 free mod points. (minimum $20)

    *Michael is making the same offer. Hurry for your mod points.

    *Cowboyneal wants a ThinkGeek gift card. The first person to give him one gets 20 free mod points. (minimum $20) CN: sorry for the dupe. Sorry, I'm not giving out another 20 mod points, I forgot that I had already submitted the story. Oh well, these $20 donations to OSTG/OSDN are going straight to me. Thanks!

    *Michael is making the same offer. Hurry for your mod points. M: Yep, it's a dupe. I couldn't let CN cheat like that, so I had to as well.

  97. Good point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do the same thing as long as it's not UPS ground. There's something about UPS's policy of "yeah we'll get it there sometime over then next 3 weeks maybe" that bothers me. I always upgrade to the cheapest shipping option that says how long it'll be. and never ship "brown"

  98. Slashdot == CLASSIFIEDS??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Editors, what is going on? Why do we care about advertisements? Why is Slashdot now posting ads as if they were news?

  99. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by nizo · · Score: 1

    It would be a true miracle (just like a virgin mary statue crying real tears) if the typical woman could find a dress she liked for any amount of money at the first 5 stores she visited. Your logic would hold if it were a man renting a tux, but alas you have not factored in the whole woman buying a wedding gown thing.

  100. Re:Supersaver arrives in 2 days half the time anyw by ntropic · · Score: 1

    You're right - for non-holiday periods. Try free shipping during the holidays only if you're not shopping for the holidays. But their maximum sales are during the holiday shopping periods - that is where this may be useful, esp when buying multiple gifts and shipping them around the country.

  101. It's not really as flash as all that- by conJunk · · Score: 1

    It looks great, to folks living in the US, but it's free/$3.99 to the continental US only. AND!!! it took quite a bit of digging to find that.

  102. Not for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are 2+6 family (yeah I have had sex at least six times), so should I put the rest of us (which are over the mentioned "up to four family members living in the same household" to closet or what?

  103. There *is* UPS grown to AK/HI by bluelark · · Score: 1

    Actually, at the turn of the year UPS started offering "ground" to hawaii and alaska. I should know, my shipping department had to educate the local UPS folks about this.

  104. Re:Does me no good by symbolic · · Score: 1


    I suspect that in order to take advantage of this offer, one needs to buy stuff from Amazon. I never have, and keeping true to my belief in the evil of software patents, I will not Amazon until they release that rediculous "one-click" patent into the public domain. An apology wouldn't hurt, either.

    I'm amazed at how much lip service Slashdot readers are willing to pay when it comes to software patents, but then turn right around and feed companies that have abused them.

  105. It's intentionally lame by seanadams.com · · Score: 1

    Maybe they WANT people to leak their secret birthday key. It's a great way to offer a deal without leaving money on the table by giving the discount to everyone, including those who'd buy anyway, without the discount.

    We have all kinds of promo codes and they get leaked from time to time, but we never disable them. Unless you lose money by them circumventing the system, there's no reason to deny a sale to someone who wouldn't buy at all without the discount.

    1. Re:It's intentionally lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha! I found one of them codes for $20 off a squeezebox when I ordered mine a little while back. I found it with a google search.

      BTW- the squeezebox rox, but your quality control could use some help. MAKE IT SO, MR CEO!

  106. All the allure of fuel prepurchase by asr_man · · Score: 1

    When you study all the conditions and restrictions this will end up being as valuable as those "Fuel Prepurchase" offers we all love at car rental companies. There will be a few consumers whose routine behavior benfits from it. The rest of us are going to find out the hard way that this is just another way to get us to part with our money buying something we didn't need in the first place -- either the shipping itelf or the items we'll buy trying to use up the "shipping prepurchase".

  107. Bugger by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 2, Informative

    This program is limited to certain products sold by Amazon.com on www.amazon.com that are shipped to continental United States addresses

  108. I'd do it by monsukefiend · · Score: 1

    If I had $79 spare I'd sign up. I noramlly buy cds from amazon biweekly as I get paid and I almost always pay for shipping instead of going for the saver shipping cuz I don't like the wait and untrackability of it. I'd end up paying about the same for shipping without prime, but with prime I'd get 2-day as opposed to the 3+ of their normal shipping. It doesn't apply to used items from the marketplace though which is the only thing holding me back, aside from being broke.

  109. Re:Does me no good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    and keeping true to my belief in the evil of software patents, I will not Amazon until they release that rediculous "one-click" patent into the public domain.

    Did they patent use of English verbs as well? Or is "Amazon" now a verb meaning "to shop at Amazon.com"? If the verb is to be understood from the previous sentence, so is the object, unless the object changes between sentences.

  110. "Products are eligible for Prime ONLY IF..." by honold · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Products are eligible for Prime only if designated on the website"

    eh?

  111. Europe by wintaki · · Score: 0

    I routinely buy books from Amazon and have them shipped to Norway. Then the shipping can be expensive. If I pay for express delivery (about 3 to 5 days), it can be about $40 for a typical 3 or 4 book order (average software book, i.e. O'Reilly, etc). Otherwise, regular shipping isn't that much cheaper and takes up to two weeks.

    Now, if they only offered this for international, I'd sign up in a second!

  112. You are giving away something valuable. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1


    Beware: When you give both your name and birthdate, you uniquely identify yourself.

    Recommendation: Decide on a fake birthdate and use it like you would a password. Use different birthdates for different purposes. NEVER give a true birthdate.

    I would never trust a marketing-crazed company like Amazon with anything unnecessary. Marketing people are usually the ones who are not too smart anyway. They seem to fall into a kind of mental illness in which, as time goes on, they justify to themselves more and more adversarial behavior.

  113. Re:OK... Birthday by tcdk · · Score: 1

    I'll give you odds 1:364 that you can't guess mine.

    (no, you wouldn't get to try 365 times)

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    TC - My Photos..
  114. Thats odd... by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

    ... because I can't say I know exactly what any of my family member's birthdays are. Guess I won't be sharing an account.

  115. Re:And I always thought amazon US would be all fre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Germany has better communications means than the US.

  116. I think the editors need to be more diligent by shikan_taza · · Score: 1

    A company advertises a new premium package for its customers. So what? Does this merit a story in Slashdot, ene if said company is Amazon? I think not.

  117. Doesn't Cover Everything by JoshDev · · Score: 1
    Check out this 110lb barbell set

    You'll find at the top of the page this interesting little message " This item is not eligible for Amazon Prime, but over a million other items are. Join Amazon Prime today.". I wonder what the official cut off limit is.

    1. Re:Doesn't Cover Everything by rezap · · Score: 1

      Prime only covers items sold by Amazon. You were probably looking at something sold by a third party.

    2. Re:Doesn't Cover Everything by JoshDev · · Score: 1

      Actually I dug a little deeper it doens't cover heavy/oversized items.
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1381 9211/103-9454614-8303836#eligible

  118. Re:Free shipping is the way to go on big ticket it by llefler · · Score: 1

    Purchasing a shipping company is quite a stretch. Besides, why would they want something so far out of their core business. With the volume they ship they can leverage very good deals out of established carriers, particularly with the new programs that are being offered. For instance, as their volume increases, they can contract with TL/LTL carriers to take truck loads or pallets to bulk mail centers and then have the postal service handle the last mile. The postal service does a pretty good job of delivering packages quickly in a local area.

    Other companies are doing this as well. Dell Business, for instance, loads a complete trailer and then drops it at a regional center for a parcel carrier. They used to use Airborne for final delivery, but I think they have changed.

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    It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry Truman
  119. Re:Does me no good by symbolic · · Score: 1

    lol - guilty as charged. Notice the sig. : )