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Kernel, Shell Boots on DS Linux
mrseigen writes "According to dslinux.org, the Linux kernel successfully boots on the Nintendo DS along with a simple shell, sash. Input is done via the d-pad. How long until Netstumbler?" While maybe not the most practical platform, it's impressive on its technical merit.
Not netstumbler. I wanna see some tux racer.
I want a new world. I think this one is broken.
How long until they can get it working with the touch screen as a text input device in Linux? That would be really amazing.
All that trouble and you can't get a nice boot screen of Tux? What's the point? :P
Not only for the technical accomplishment, but for the sheer, "why?" factor...
Rock on, I guess. ^_^
I covered this on my blog earlier today! As I was saying on my blog, it'd be a good thing if the DS could be a low cost replacement for a voip phone or PDA!
How about OSX on a Gameboy
Input is done via the d-pad.
What happen when I want to use the other 25 characters? This makes an interesting login/password combo
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Yeah, a portable device with a lot of battery power, wireless, two screens and a touchscreen input running a general purpose operating system that's relatively inexpensive and that many of us already have couldn't possibly be practical...
I'd never want my GameBoy to replace my palmpilot...
-twb
It would be nice if console developers would release or permit to be released an official version of Linux for their platforms so that hardware and software exploits didn't need to be used.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
I bet these guys will get linux to work on the PSP next, that would be just swell. But they should make game hardware that is open and people can install what they want on it. Thus have a great game system and also a great mini computer that can do other small things such as read email or maybe mount remote file systems. Well all this is great congrats guys. A tin of Skoal for eveyone of you :)
"While maybe not the most practical platform"
Meanwhile you guys post every psp "hack" with glee.
Go fuck yourselves. Same goes to anyone else who posts "why oh why" in this thread. I hope you all choke on your PSPs.
Kismet? Definately! I would love to see that. Kismet on a DS would rock.
"Hey man, check it out! I just got Linux to boot on my DS!"
"Duh, where's Mario?"
"Forget Mario! Linux boots!"
"What's Linux?"
"It's an operating system, you know, like Windows and junk, but I got it to run on the DS!"
"Does Linux play Mario?"
"No, Linux does not play Mario! But it can do so much more!"
"But it can't play Mario. What a geek."
It'd make more sense to wonder about Kismet. Netstumbler is a Win32 app, no Linux port to speak of, and it's not open source.
I know what you're thinking. Did I forward 65,535 packets or 65,536 packets?
that a gameboy emulator will compile on this?
oh.. wait..
or maybe I should just stick to playing it on a linux pda and stop throwing money away...
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
I wish I were this guy's friends. I'd be impressed, and encourage him to keep hacking.
Sadly, I have the same problem I'm sure he does: lack of friends who care about things that are important to me. Great for a game of racquetball (and I need the exercise),but they know nothing about BSD for the most part. I can't get into an argument about how BSD is better than linux because they have no clue about either. I'll bet this guy could give me some reasonable arguments in return.
Piracy always comes first. That's where the profit comes from.
It's linux that's riding the coattails of piracy, not vice versa.
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This seems cool, and it reminds me of when Amid Singh ran some ancient Unices on his GBA emulator. Pretty impressive, it can only get better. Makes me a little more interested in shelling out the $149 for a Ninetendo DS; I can see a lot of usefulness in having an ultra-portable *nix system around me at all times. I wonder if there are any small keyboards for the Nintendo DS?
Now if only NetBSD does a port....
Imagine a landfill full of these.
... what is that line? Beowulf cluster, that's it.
Oh, that's not right
Imagine a landfill full of Beowulf clusters of these.
Still not the right ring to it.
In Soviet Korea, only old people play Nintendo.
Raise your children as if you were teaching them to raise your grandchildren, because you are.
The DS has two cartridge ports for potential storage, Wifi, and the bottom screen could serve as a soft keyboard. The DS has enough CPU power, but is kinda low on RAM. Still, if this was developed enough, it'd be a decent and inexpensive Linux machine with a lot of possibilities.
Better: In Soviet Russia, Nintendo DS touches YOU!
If you ever find yourself in Rochester, NY [I apologize, for one, but] you can espouse on the virtues of BSD vs Linux with me.
My treat at my club.
signal, noise, to me it's all the same.
I'm holding off buying one until the bottom screen has a graffiti input region, or a virtual keyboard. grepping webserver logs using regexp's will be a fucking bitch - worse with the d-pad.
The reason girls and Windows users don't understand UNIX is because all the documentation is in Man files.
up up down down left right left right B A start
Not only for the technical accomplishment, but for the sheer, "why?" factor...
I'm guessing because it hasn't been done before. I must admit I found most of the exercises in school boring, partly because they had already been solved. Many people don't want to be the 235,523th to create an MP3 player.
Making a OSS program copying closed source software isn't very creative either. Most "serious" applications and stuff have been done already, and so many of the projects left have more or less no reason. They're simply a challenge, and one you wish to solve on your own. No knocking down open doors, no "answer" to check against.
As much as it may seem trivial, creating something unique is a part of many people's self-realization. Some create a piece of art, some decorate their home or garden, some create a new piece of software. There's a tremendous feeling of achievement there you could never get by mere copying.
Kjella
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Find a way to boot off of a flashcart DS cart
There is already the PassMe method, which boots from a GBA card through an adapter in the DS slot. Details on dspassme.com
and fuck
You completely miss the point of Feel The Magic.
So where can I get a Nintendo DS emulator so I can try this out?
There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.
Better: In Soviet Russia, Nintendo DS touches YOU!
Is this an example of why reverse engineering is illegal in the USA?
I propose from now on, we use only D or not D(space) in our posts.
dddddddddddd ddddddddd ddddddddddd ddddd dddddddddddddddddddd dddddddd ddddddddd ddddddddddddddddddd ddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Grr, had to switch to lowercase to get past the filter.
I wouldn't imagine it would be all that difficult to code a software keyboard on the touch screen, and just have the user point to the letters he/she wants to type.
Don't lock yourself into QWERTY or Dvorak. Typing on a touch screen resembles typing with one finger more than anything else, but the QWERTY and Dvorak key layouts are designed to alternate keypresses between hands, which isn't always the best choice for single-finger typing. Look at Fitaly for inspiration.
I am giving some serious thought to actually doing this... after I evaluate the risks.
What risks, other than a possible patent on the Fitaly layout?
Nothing like classic Zelda or Tetris on the beautiful DS screen...
The Nintendo DS plays many original Game Boy games just fine through Goomba and a GBA memory card. It's the GBC-only games that need a new DS-native emulator.
Already have a Linux PDA :-)
And I already have a GBA flash cart, which is 2/5 of the $250 cost of this Linux hack. How did you manage to get a decent job? All I can get, even with this resume, is "Sorry, we went with another candidate".
So where can I get a Nintendo DS emulator
I don't know. Any iDeaS?
does it run Linux?
Is this an example of why reverse engineering is illegal in the USA?
Only if small children are involved.
Someone lacks a sense of humor. Nintendo fanboys make me giggle. :)
It's not completely obsolete!
Plus, mario64 DS fucking rules.
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
With a firmware update created by homebrewers that replaces the DS's ability to run GBA games with a new ability to run DS-mode code from the GBA slot.
Not really. What the FlashMe modification does is: implement a check whether a DS-binary is present on a cart in the GBA slot. If so, it points arm7 code execution to the binary; if not, it loads up the ordinary firmware with unaltered functionality (this includes playing GBA-games). Kinda nifty!
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Because... BSD is dead of course.
Is a VNC client or X11 client for the machine. This way, I could be somewhere else in my house, and check my emails from my DS, instead of going to my computer. Or I could check something on the web from the couch in living room.
Or modify the kernel so that an attempt to read any file actually streams it from the network to your DS for execution or editing.
Has the DS got a built in microphone?
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cowboyneal doesnt know what he is talking about.
>How long until Netstumbler?" While maybe not the
>most practical platform, it's impressive on its
>technical merit.
um, netstumbler? didnt he just say they got linux booting? netstumbler does not run on linux (afaik). try kismet, you dumbass. not the most practical platform? i think he doesnt know what he is talking about. it is much more "practical" than the PSP just because of the touchscreen alone.
Why is this impressive on it's technical merits?
Cell phones are more powerful now than computers 5-8 years ago that can still run modern Linux implementations just fine, let alone video game machines.
Hell, there's probably digital watches that are more powerful than computers that can still run modern Linux implementations.
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You build a kernel that includes the two modules you need (network card and nfs) to get access to all the other modules. It's Not Hard. So all you need on the device itself is a bootloader and the core of the kernel.
Shh, don't say such heresy, the fanboys will kill you. (And for the record, yes, I was kidding. Dolts.)
You post anarchist and civil disobedience crap on the same website you send employers to and live in Indiana?
Anarchist? Which? Do you consider any writing that disagrees with some of the more allegedly egregious aspects of copyright law "anarchist"? I don't understand which page you're talking about.
And as for the page explaining the Bono Act, would you consider all Geocities sites to be "on the same website"? Specifically, If I tell someone "pineight.com", then can anybody get to the civil disobedience stuff by following links?
Opie's default handwriting rec is AWFUL.
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Linux Console development requires the same tools developed for pirated use. There is no console Linux unless that console can run unsigned code, which is the same aim as piracy.
Linux development has not created new piracy techniques, but piracy has created new places for Linux.
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