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PSP Emulation Madness
An anonymous reader writes "The PSP is now the ultimate in handheld emulation consoles, already it boasts Full Speed Gameboy Colour Emulation and improving Snes & Master System but added today it also has NeoGeo CD and Sega Genesis emulators added to the impressive list of homebrew releases."
... but so far it only works on the Japanese 1.00 firmware. So far there's no support for the US versions (1.5 and 1.51) so for most of us, it's nothing to get too excited about... yet. I don't know about you, but I don't want to flash my PSP's firmware... but I'm getting so impatient. Just imagine... a 1GB card of all of your favorite games for all of those classic systems, portable, on that gorgeous screen. I hope they hurry up and figure out how to run homebrew apps on the latest firmware.
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The PSP is a fantastic machines that is showing to have some great promise. Once the version 1.5 has been unlocked so that everybody can utilise these emulators and homebrew apps I'll definitely have to buy a second memory card and fill it up with all my old favourite games. Stunned? yes I am.
This really proves Moors Law. A handheld unit now has the ability to play the previous generation of console games, through an emulator layer!
I can remember when you needed a top of the range PC to play Doom. Now I can install it on my Phone.
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No one's cracked the 1.50 or the 1.51 firmware yet, so US PSP owners are still SOL.
While it may be the "portable console" with the most emulators, Pocket PCs easily surpass it - if we're talking about hardware with a similar form-factor.
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Has anyone ported a PIM (Personal Information Management) suite and user interface (like Opie) to it yet (or are there any projects in progress)? That would make the PSP attractive as a PDA as well.
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Next step, GBA games.
That would seal the deal for me, and probably many others.
I think that it isn't outside of reason, its touted that the GBA is just as powerful as the SNES, so the hardware requirements apparently are close to being met....
Sony would be wise to open the machine up - it'll drive hardware sales certainly more than UMD movies will. Existing homebrew apps like PSPVideo 9 are probably driving more sales than software :).
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Looking at these pictures remind me of how advanced the Sega handheld seemed for its time. Beautiful full-color screen and rich sound, while the Gameboy lagged behind with its black and white screen and one tiny speaker for years. Remember the TV tuner cartridge you could buy to turn it into a handheld television?
The PSP is a powerful compute engine, and exporting it to China should be banned. The Chinese military could use it as the basis of the next-generation supercomputers. Beijing is engaged in an aggressive attempt to modernize its military infrastructure, and supercomputers are central to it
So when is the Nintendo DS emulator coming out for the PSP?
Hack your mind out of its sandbox.
...and I am sold. I'd love to lay in bed playing the Capcom classics on the PSP. I can do it now on the PC and modded Xbox, but the portable angle would be killer.
Also contains a full-featured PSP emulator.
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That's why I don't really get why platforms like Palm don't catch on more. With anybody being able to create and load programs on them, its suprising they don't get more attention. I think they could just as easily create all these emulators for Palm, and not have to worry about being sued. I realize that PSP has a better interface, but couldn't they make something like a keyboard attachment that has a game pad and 4 or 5 buttons?
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Y'know there's nothing wrong with media-shifting games that you own. I've seen plenty of collections of old games lying around people's houses, if they own the game but want to play it on the train it's just a little more practical to use a ROM dump on a PSP than bring along a console, TV and bag of cartridges.
On the other side of the coin, if I wanted to play Sonic 3 on my PSP (since it's one of my favourite games) I'd be quite happy to pay a few £ on eBay for an original cartridge so I'm then completely legit in downloading a ROM of that cartridge and running it under emulation.
Nintendo hardly dropped the ball on the DS.
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They left out NES, TG16 / PC Engine, and the fact that so far, it's only 1.0. They also didn't mention that there's an up and coming emulator called PSPE that can run PSP some homebrew on your PC. No, it can't run PSP games... but it's interesting for devs and just playing around in general, and rather nice to have this early on.
As much as I support PSP homebrew and emulation, it's premature to say it's "the ultimate in handheld emulation consoles". Many of these emus work at good speed, and many have sound, but it's still very early in the game. This is just ASKING for flames from the DS and GBA fans, not to mention the POCKET PC which can play everything from the Atari, NES, SNES, TG16, Amiga, C64, and etc including SONY PLAYSTATION.
As for when us 1.5 folks will see homebrew... "soon", if you believe the rumors Several teams are hard at work on it, and the team Dynarox recently announced "In a really near future, a loader will be released to make games work via the memory card.", so far, no reason has been given to disbelieve them. This loader will probably be in the form of a bios replacement.
And to answer all the silly questions that are bound to pop up: No, you can't do anything right now. No, you can't downgrade your firmware by any currently known methods. And yes, odds are that "backups" and "emulation" will go hand and hand when this is finally cracked. -- No, this did not kill the Dreamcast, and No, it won't kill the PSP either. -- Proof: It's easy as heck to convert video from your DVDs to MP4 and store on a memory card, but UMD Videos are already a commerical success.
Windows also outsells Linux in the category of Operating Systems...
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"already it boasts Full Speed Gameboy Colour Emulation"
But it only plays British games because the US releases are not in colour.
Turbo Express was a better system. It even played the full console 16 bit games.
Nintendo has always won against higher end handhelds due to the fact batt life is king when talking about a portable. So is price when dealing with kid's toys.
The Sony PSP is heading for a different market, and so neither are make or break.
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The DS has been out a good while longer than the PSP also.
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Actually, I don't think the DMCA restricts you to a specific platform. It defines a "program", but does not restrict you to running it only where it was intended.
Well according to what Nintendo announced long before the DS came out, it's a whole new product (like the VirtualBoy) - if successful (which it appears to be) they would hold off the release of a "GBA2" until 2007. If it flopped the "GBA2" would come out in 2006. The DS is really just another experiment by Nintendo to create new types of games. Shigeru Miyamoto and co don't seem to like the same game, incrementally better graphics that have taken over the industry (admit it, with few exceptions every single PS2 game is really just one of about 10 games, but with different graphics and sounds).
"They" do release emulators for the Palm and PocketPC platforms. Example: http://paqpark.nuclearfallout.net/projects/pockets nes.php
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So if we are going to say that anyone dropped the ball, its sony by making the US version different than the Japanese version.
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It remains to be seen whether Sony drop the ball or not, but for the time being, the two are selling reasonably neck and neck (despite Nintendo being in the lead) in a market in which previously Nintendo pretty much had it all!
Ideally Nintendo should have hung on to at least a big lead (60%, 70%, 80%?) despite not being 9X% anymore. But at the minute, they aren't.
If in Nintendo, I'd at least being chewing my nails, for the time being (like I said, if Sony screw up, the PSP sales could drop off).
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Either I live in a topsy turvey town or most market research is wrong.
PSP has outsold DS by a LONG-SHOT at my store since it came out.
XBoX has outsold PS2 by a LONG-SHOT at my store since we opened.
There are whole days where not a single game from the GameCube section leaves the floor.
There are whole weeks where not a single person touches the DS section.
But I must tell you, we get TONS of people shopping the PSP section.
It got so bad that we simply took our DS marketing off the wall and put it in a small display rack like how we display the GBA games. It's nothing impressive. The PSP takes up about as much store space as our GameCube section now.
How long until we have a way to mod the PSP, and is it even possible?
I'm thinking the mods will be along the lines of the PSO exploit for Gamecube, but I guess something is better than nothing.
Anyone know the status on this?
We have secretly replaced these Slashdot mods' sense of humor with a rusty nail. Let's see if they notice!!
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The DS has sold twice as many as the PSP has even shipped.
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Nintendo has hung into the lead, we are only counting DS here, Nintendo still sells the Advance, SP, and now a new mini one based on the Advanced platform is comming out. Likewise while games sales between the two have been neck and neck, advance game sales are well past either system.
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My Zaurus has been emulating other game devices for a couple years now. Declaring the PSP the *ultimate* emulation machine is a little far fetched.
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A warning for anyone thinking of grabbing homebrew without reading up on it.
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Unfortunately the flash ROM on the PSP is completely writable by anything running on the machine. The 1.50 and 1.51 updates fix this, but in doing so locking out homebrew software. For anyone that can't see the connection - malicious writes to flash = a shiny PSP paperweight.
http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=1962 [ps2dev.org]
So, if you're going to run homebrew on your PSP, beware the possible consequences. Mine just arrived yesterday, I wish they'd release these things sooner in the EU! Alas, it's 1.50
This is pretty awesome actually. I'm not one to go out and buy every new gadget that comes on the market, but I have to admit there is something very attractive about the PSP, and if it can run these emulators, it's even better. But I don't think I'll actually buy one until it's possible to run homebrew apps on the North American version. Otherwise it's not really that interesting to me.
Kind of funny that Sony is trying so hard to stop me from buying their little machine... I would love to have one, but I'm really not interested if I can't try my hand at writing programs for it. Hm, I guess that means I'm not the target demographic..
how about ColecoVision? I sure do miss the football and baseball games from that machine. "Super Action Football" oh yeah!
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Moreover, there is at least one GameCube game that I own that has a funny clause in the license in the manual. It actually says that they won't permit you to make backup copies of the game, and further that this is does not impinge upon your rights as a consumer. That's pretty restrictive, no?
Is anyone from Sega going to come to your front door and try to stop you from putting Sonic 3 on another platform? No. But we should all be aware of what licenses say on today's software. To be totally paranoid, with these kinds of restrictions as a precedent, there may come a time when they don't have to physically visit you to make you stop: they just show the proper data to the government and they restrict your rights in other ways.
That said, I'm in the minority that (conservatively) interprets the law to mean that media-shifting is not obviously a right you have.
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I think it's a question of that they've let Sony get a reasonably decent foothold (almost half of next-gen handhelds?)
Granted, that may not come to anything, but it just as easily could.
Looking at current sales of previous handheld + games merely reflects the past. Eventually people will move to the DS, or PSP. One would think if Nintendo had a truly better system, and did a decent job marketing presuming the DS is better than the PSP, then there should be a much bigger proportion of people buying DS rather than PSP!
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Anyone who thinks the PSP is "the ultimate in handheld emulation consoles" clearly hasn't heard of the GP32.
When the PSP gets buggy emulators everyone creams, but when the Revolution is announced to play old titles (perfectly, no doubt, I might add) everyone is as down on it as can be. Funny how them double standards work.
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Give me Lynx Emulation and I'm all over one of these! I've actually been holding off on buying one because no stores I've been to, have a demo unit. They all claim "it sells itself, and Sony won't give us floor units". Maybe it's just me, but if I'm going to drop $250 (plus the cost of accessories, games, etc) on something, I would like to see it, feel it, play it before I do so. I guess hitting the ripe old age of 30 has changed my views and my general impulsiveness.
They can put in any clause they want in the license, but they still cannot take away a person's rights. .. they can hang that sign as much as they want, but they still cannot take away a citizens right to privacy.
Just like store with signs that say "We reserve the right to inspect your bags"
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Honestly while I love my DS, im playing more Advance games on it, and I am not happy that unless I hack my system, my much larger library of gameboy/color games is SOL. Thats just me, Im one of those gamers who looks at a good game not having to have the best graphics.
A lot of the new crop of gamers would play Shit Tosser 3000 as long as it had good graphics despite the gameplay being so buggy that pressing the right button may not give you the same result every time o_O. There are a lot of us those who would shun these games in favore of our older Gameboy greats, and you cant play those on a DS.
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How about the GP32?
It's a completely open handheld gaming system
more info at GP32 Xtreme, one of the biggest GP32 community sites
Curiosity was framed. Ignorance killed the cat.
Looked at the GP32? I don't know how large it is in the world, but it has/had decent hardware and a homebrew scene. Console done right.
GP32 xtreme got news.
GBAX sells it.
Emuholic got emus.
GP32 devrs got the tools.
Never mind emulating all those trashy modern toys, I want to know when I can run Sinclair Spectrum games on it!
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You are right and wrong. They CAN inspect your bags if you enter their store. But you have the right not to enter that store.
Its their property. Their store. As long as its done in a uniform, non-discriminatory manner, its all right.
Well, Team Xecuter has some good progress news for you:
"Our current work involves busting the firmware - the firmware dumper is already working and there has good progress been made in booting games and also homebrew on different firmware versions (v1.5 etc). We are giving support and advice to other underground teams as well as receiving help ourelves - its an excellent "group" effort without anyone actually knowing about who or what is involved. Apologies if the odd spoiler we throw your way freaks one or two minds Razz"
So, folks, it's coming, just sit tight.
Fortunately where I am from laws are made by the government, not by Sega. Here we are legally allowed to maintain backup images of software that we own so ROMs are perfectly legal so long as you own the actual cart/CD/etc. This is not open to individual interpretation, this is simply the law as it stands here right now. Now I don't know where you are from so YMMV.
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PSP users are just trying to get some games worth playing. ;) I mean, DS users have the GBA library to play, so there's no real shortage. There's a HUGE shortage of worthwhile games to play on a PSP, meaning that other systems must be pirated in order to get anything worthwhile.
I don't know enough of your specific situation, but simply cautioning that not only does the law vary from place to place, but it also varies in how it treats different media. And, as you say, YMMV.
Curmudgeon Gamer: Not happy
He said PSP outsold DS every month this year. Your dazzling response was to point to an article describing total sales since both units shipped, which is arguably irrelevant, since the DS shipped first.
His point stands: since the beginning of the year, PSP outsold DS, unless you have another link up your sleave...
considering the number of companies that have an outrageous backcatalog and the number of "franchise" games. much like DVDs do with the extra added content, when will developers create emulated version of their older games on the same disc. i know that tekken5 for ps2 has the first three tekken games as available content. i know that dead or alive ultimate came packaged with an older versions, ninja gaiden had the first three versions as extras. zelda rereleased older emulated versions as well. its just an added incentive and an added value when you are shopping for games/ movies. sure many of us dont care and probably never watch all of the director commentary on our dvds, but i prefer buying the copies with it than without it.
i guess we just have to get on the publishers to give us more game for our buck... nintendo realizes the strength of the emulation and throwback game community; why else would they now be embracing the "virtual console" idea? look at how many people are excited about the revolution simply because of that fact? look at the xbox360, MS saw how popular the media center addons etc has been with the original xbox mod community. so what do they do? incorporate it into the design of the updated version and there you go...
using wipeout pure as example. i would love to buy the next iteration of the wipeout franchise if it came with emulated versions of the first couple games. [maybe with a wider screen] i can think of plenty franchises that could greatly benefit from something like that. i'd love to be able to go to a website and design a custom track and have the site spit it out in a form i could keep on my memory card and share with friends.
we are the gamers. we have the power really. who knows better what gamers want than gamers themselves? i know what kind of game i would love to buy. i know what i want to be able to do with my consoles/ handhelds. they know what we do, if we speak loud enough, im sure they will find a way to bring it to the public. [the paying public that it...]
... give me the capability to homebrew with ease and now yuo're talkin'.
But why would you want to rely on the government to protect you when you can just go to a shop next door and reward them for decency? Just buy a Linux PDA for games and let Sony's closed platform be as "successful" as their non-MP3 music players.
I'd feel much more comfortable copying the game and giving £3 to charity.
honestly it doesnt matter which system outsells which. im happy that now that nintendo isnt the only company playing the portables game. what that means is i have options, i have developers and divisions of companies that realize that they have to work harder to keep me happy and loyal to their product as well. we are all winners, but the true winners are those that own both systems. as better and more better software is created, they get the cream of competition.
"so I'm then completely legit in downloading a ROM of that cartridge and running it under emulation."
You can download any movie, game, or piece of software from the Net as long as you delete it in 24 hours? Its true.
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I bought a PSP recently... imported it from Japan to the UK. The only downer is that my game selection is not exactly huge. I'd love to get my hands on Hot Shots golf and Mercury, but places like Amazon.com won't ship to the UK.
I personally think that Sony has screwed the UK games retailers pretty bad. I know that Game Ltd was counting on sales of the PSP to make up a significant portion of this years budget. Because of the silly Sony delay, when the PSP finally launches here, both people who don't have one will go out and buy one. Everyone I know who wants one has either bought one over the 'net or had someone bring one back from the US.
When will people realise that the world isn't segmented neatly any more ?
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On the other side of the coin, if I wanted to play Sonic 3 on my PSP (since it's one of my favourite games) I'd be quite happy to pay a few £ on eBay for an original cartridge so I'm then completely legit in downloading a ROM of that cartridge and running it under emulation.
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Can anyone explain to me why this would make it ok to copy/download the game? The original creators do not get any of the money you spent on the used cartridge, so why bother buying a used cart? It would make more sense to me to mail a check for $5 to sega and say, "I'm using sonic on my psp, thanks." That way at least the creators (if sega actually made that inhouse, don't know and it doesn't matter for my point, lets just assume that is the case) get some money out of you. Buying a used cart they get none. Sure the original owner can not play the game so you are "transfering" the right to play the game, but come on, you are paying next to nothing for it and not actually using it at all, so why own it? Whether you buy it or not the orignal company has gotten all the money they can out of it, unless they are remarketing it (see further)
I myself have no problem morally with using roms that aren't available for current systems, it's their fault for not capitalizing on it. Look at midway, they've created some great collections for new systems which I have purchased. Some examples here here and (as you guessed) here. Oh and I shouldn't forget Namco
Until more companies start doing this people will just download the games, not only is it easier but it makes a lot more sense than tracking down an old cart so you can feel good about downloading the roms. If people want to play old games on the psp the marketing groups of the companies that have all these great legacy games should be taking notice and doing something about it.
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Ummm...Nintendo has hardly dropped the ball. If I've heard correctly, Nintendo has already sold 5 million + DS units worldwide since last November. That's pretty good. THey have also shipped about that many GB Advances/SPs in that same time frame. Nintendo is still undoubtedly the leader in handheld gaming. This is nowhere near the success that Sony had with the PS1. Whether you like it or not, Nintendo is still in the lead.
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Um, are you sure? First off, if the sign is at the exit only, then I very much doubt that it carries any weight whatsoever. Even if the sign is at the entrance to the store, I have not agreed in writing (nor even verbally). How on earth can they enforce that? Would they sue me if I left the store without allowing them to inspect my bags (I understand anyone can sue for anything at any time)? Could they restrain me without reasonable grounds for suspicion? If the guard at the exit is a off-duty police officer, do they have any more right to detain me if I refuse to let them inspect my bag as part of their normal routine (I am thinking of the "inspect every bag" routine, not the "that person was seen stuffing items into their bag" search)?
What Nintendo needs to do is fund a PSP emulator for the DS. That way the DS will by default be able to run all the PSP emulators!
Look at it from another perspective: PS2 has outsold Xbox by a LONG-SHOT worldwide. DS has outsold PSP by a LONG-SHOT worldwide.
Yes, you must live in Topsey-Turvey town because obviously reality has not settled wherever it is that you live.
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im happy that now that nintendo isnt the only company playing the portables game
Care to qualify that statement? Nintendo has never been the only company in the portable gaming market. Tiger has had handhelds for quite a bit longer than Nintendo. Remember the Wonderswan? NeoGeo Pocket? Sega Game Gear? Tapwave? N-Gage? The list goes on and on...
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(admit it, with few exceptions every single PS2 game is really just one of about 10 games, but with different graphics and sounds).
and story, and controls, and gameplay...
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Heh, not to mention the DS titles we do have now have been in development for what, half the time of the PSP titles?
No wonder Sony didn't even mention its existence at E3 -- is there anything even coming worth talking about?
> Have you ever bought a used CD? You can buy the used CD, rip it to MP3's, and be perfectly legal.
Of course, the person you bought it from has to make sure they delete their MP3 rips of the CD, right?
Yes I have bought used cds. But what's the difference in buying a used cd vs downloading mp3's? The complaint on dl'ing is that the original artist and the record company get nothing, but when I buy a used cd they still get nothing and i get the music (albight higher quality). Same deal here. The company will complain about a dl'd rom, but they aren't getting anything from you buying a used one anyhow and there is no way to get a new one. So why bother buying the used rom? If there is no new option why would they force you to buy a used one when they get nothing out of it?
To clarify, the difference with cd's is that there is the option to buy a new cd. The recording company can't complain about the used purchase, but they can call dl'ing mp3's stealing and threaten lawsuits. In the case of many roms, there is no way to buy new, and no way for the company to make money via your options on getting the roms. So why buy a used cart to make it "legal"? If they aren't actively trying to make money off the games what do they care if you actually have a cart at home (not to mention that many carts/aracade roms claim you don't have a right to have ANY copy of the data elsewhere, which is a different discussion on fair use etc).
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So the title should be "Japanese PSP version 1.0 Emulation Madness."
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lucky Japanese PSP owners.
Worldwide sales put the PSP way behind.
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The Tapwave Zodiac was (is) a PalmOS machine with an analog game control stick: http://www.tapwave.com/
I say "was" because, though it's still in production, it also seems clearly to have a limited lifespan with the PSP out...
I think they are actually starting to. I've recently seen sega action packs that contain ALL of the sonic games for one of the consoles (all of them?). I've also seen another one I could've swore was put out by sega that seemed to have alot of old sega master system games on it...
Point is, they ARE attempting to redistribute them. I know I've seen all the nintendo favorites out for GBA recently, along with those stupid smart/magnetic trading cards with games on them.. Granted in Nintendo's case, they're trying to pawn off Zelda 1 for $40 when you can probably get an original NES + Zelda for half as much at your local used game store, but I digress...
Point is, if you want this stuff, its there. If its not there all it takes is writing a few letters and some patience. Well, and the willing to dish out another $40 for some 15-20 year old games you played as a kid.
I think the video game market needs to start rethinking the way they distribute their content. Look at stardock central or steam (Others?). Those two have GREAT content management systems. Just pay them some money, and download your games. That's where we should be going.
I think it'd be awesome to pay like $5 a month or something and be able to download any game that's over 5-10 years old. Hell, I'd be willing to pay that much to ALL the console companies and have a virtual library of games at my disposal.
Hrm, almost makes me want to start a company to do that for old PC games.
My $99 N-Gage QD can emulation the Gameboy Color, NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, Mame, etc. But of course, a PSP is considered "cool" by the gaming elite. Meanwhile the N-Gage QD is considered "lame". Oh well. How many people really use their PSP as a portable anyway? Do they really carrying it around with them?
*theoretically -- I don't trust Valve. If anything goes wrong (e.g. they go out of business) the default result is that you lose access to all the games you "bought."
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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't want a DS just because the dual screens are just stupid. I'd rather have one, bigger screen (like the PSP), and I have yet to be convinced that the touching idea has any usefulness in gaming. I really think that strangeness turns off a lot more people than the lack of backwards compatability.
Of course, I also refuse to get a PSP -- despite how great the hardware is -- because it's made by evil Sony.
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I just picked up a cheap Tapwave Zodiac, and combined with a Palm-based emulator app called Little John Z (http://yoyofr92.free.fr/ljz/), it's a killer handheld emulation device. GB/GBC and NES ROMs play perfectly, and some Genesis and SNES games as well. The best thing is that it doubles the resolution for the games *and* adds antialiasing so no jaggies.
While waiting for the new PSP to be hacked (or for Sony to get a clue and open the platform up) go get yourself a Zodiac.
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Is this really even news and if so its old news. people have been drooling over the prospect of emulation for a month now. sony is going to force you update your firmware with new game releases so even if you manage to hack your system you then will be force to miss out on playing gta or whatever killer app they have in store. the current batch of games is quite lackluster. I own dynasty warriors, lumines, untold legends and ridge racer.. out of those i have not beaten lumines yet. I have real doubts the psp will really be good for emulation its bearly good for playing movies. how long do you think it takes to convert a dvd to mp4 format. umds lick green donkey balls the movie selection sucks. and for the price of an expensive dvd you get a movie with no special features. I am trading in my psp and the games for 2 ds units and some games. oh and a flash linker card. why do I need emulation when I can play the 1500 gba games. this is called hype. goto the playstaion psp boards a lonely place it is. wait till the holiday when they drop the price a $100 bucks.
The touch screen is simply a portable replacement for a mouse. If you can't see what a mouse contributes to gaming I can't help you.
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Maybe the revolution will have a gb* emulator, let's hope so.
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Entirely false, and you're missing the point of "intellectual" property. A digital copy of intellectual property is a digital copy regardless of the medium; the copy is not of the material / medium but of the program on it.
I want to know when I can run Sinclair Spectrum games on it!
Yes, the ultimate platform for a rousing game of Mazogs.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
That looks really nice! It could really use a couple more buttons for SNES games though.
I saw big things for the PSP and was one of the few waiting to get the psp at launch. That 2 hours I can never get back.
For me I have never had any problems with the unit it self, no dead pixes or anything. Its a great system. However where are the games? I love lummies and been playing Ridge Racer alot lately. But I want some real games. Like a RPG or something with internet play.
Homebrews: when will a system maker support the homebrew commuinty. People want to make there own games, and if they released a special SDK they might cut the people trying to hack there system by half.
Nope. Only licensed security has the right to do anything to you, and then only if they witness you stealing some shit. The ONLY thing the store has a right to do is ask you not to come back if you refuse them permission to look in your bag.
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
I don't buy that. I mean, I understand quite well what a mouse contributes to gaming -- my two favorite genres are FPS and RTS, and both of those suck without a mouse. However, I don't think the FPS experience would translate well to a touchscreen, and I don't think the RTS would translate well to a small screen.
The other possibility is a menu-driven strategy game, like DopeWars or something. That, I admit, works well enough on my Palm that I can see it working on the Nintendo DS. But frankly, I'd gladly trade away the ability to play that sort of game in order to get a bigger single screen like in the PSP.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
That's true. It does become a subscription service. But, if you're like most gamers, you probably spend an average of $50-100 a month on new games. What if you could get all the new old games you wanted for $10 a month? Sure, it'd be a subscription service, but really. How often have you honestly played say Stellar Empire lately? Or Darksun? Or any of the old gold box games? It'd be nice to 'own' them, but you probably won't care after you've mastered them again anyways. And with new stuff always coming out, it's one shiny after the next..
:)
As for steam, who cares? If valve goes away, so do all those cd key validation servers that allow you to play multiplayer. And chances are there won't be a legal patch to fix it anyways.
I would actually save money with a subscription service. I'd just constantly play new to me older games.
Incidentally, this is also why I will never buy another Blizzard game. If they hadn't got their panties in a twist over Freecraft and Bnetd it'd be different...
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I myself have no problem morally with using roms that aren't available for current systems
How will the ramifications of your morals change in spring 2006 when the Nintendo Revolution console comes out and 90 percent of first-party games released in your region become available for online purchase?
Actually, the case seems to be that you can media-shift on your own
No, you can't do that either. Media-shifting a work protected by a technological measure requires possession of a circumvention device, and possession requires manufacture, distribution, or importation, all of which are a federal crime in the United States. Slashdot's server is located in the United States.
PSP UMD movies are region coded. A machine with Japanese or North American firmware will not play forthcoming movies designed for European firmware.
I don't think the RTS would translate well to a small screen.
The original Warcraft ran on a 320x200 pixel display. Only about 256x192 pixels of that were used for the game; the rest of the screen was used for status bars and toolbars. Each Nintendo DS screen is also 256x192 pixels.
Yeah. A whole 21 days.
What you say would be true for most of the audience of slashdot.jp (read in Japan, where the PSP did come out within a month of the Nintendo DS) but is not true for most of the audience of slashdot.org (read in North America, where the DS had a head start of several months, and in Europe, where the PSP still isn't available at retail). "It doesn't matter; everybody who wants one already imported it" isn't an answer, as PSP UMDs are region coded (following the DVD Video region map?).
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If you do a search for Mazogs, one of the links looked liked a remake of Mazogs - the picture might even be from there for comparison. I did like that game a lot...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Nintendo has never been the only company in the portable gaming market.
For a lot of time before the PSP came out, Nintendo was the only company in the North American market whose entry was not an absolute joke.
Tiger has had handhelds for quite a bit longer than Nintendo.
Even before Game & Watch? And as for dot-matrix based games, Game.com flopped horribly because its screen was way too motion-blurry to play the version of Sonic the Hedgehog that was ported.
Remember the Wonderswan? NeoGeo Pocket? Sega Game Gear? Tapwave? N-Gage?
Of those five, only the Sega Game Gear appeared in U.S. Wal-Mart stores to my knowledge, and it had horrible battery life, though admittedly at a time when too many console makers' management underestimated the value of battery life.
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"im happy that now that nintendo isnt the only company playing the portables game". of course there are other companies; there have always been other companies fighting for mindshare of the portable market. im just saying that i am happy that there is finally a serious heavy-hitter in the market to compete with nintendo. the last time there was anyone that even stood a chance and had the power/hardware/ industry influence to go head to head with the gameboy was probably the gamegear.
sony has the backing of many other corporations and third party developers. i mean they are what? two minutes from making the mini-DVD format obsolete... until now nintendo could pretty much sit on its laurels and watch the gameboy cash cow bring in the dollars. do you think nintendo execs were worried for a minute when they heard that the n-gage or tapwave were coming to the market? now they have a solid opponent in the handheld market, so they have no choice but to create and innovate in order to stay competitive. honestly, how many gameboy titles were really, really quality? sure many were fun, but how many had the same level of polish that youd see for a first party console game? only a few come to mind. the GBA has plenty of solid titles, but now with the DS you can see a solid increase in their production effort. why? because they have a competitor that can stand on even ground and compete toe to toe, and i expect to see nintendo step up to the plate.
competition is good for us: the consumer.
i mean they are what? two minutes from making the mini-DVD format obsolete
Until (and most likely even after) Sony authorizes the release of a UMD burner, the mini-DVD will still see wide-spread use. Sure, Lik-Sang will have a UMD burner in the next few months, but I'm talking a legitimate, mass-market UMD burner that you can stick in a 5 1/4" slot on your PC. Sony might stop using mini-DVDs in their DV Camcorders, but that alone won't kill off the medium. Look how successful Memory Sticks, MiniDiscs, and Beta tapes have been. Who uses them? Sony. But that's it.
honestly, how many gameboy titles were really, really quality?
Replace gameboy with Playstation and/or PS2 and the sentence still works.
Yes, competition is good for the consumer. But last time I checked, the PSP and DS were targeted at different markets. That's not competition. That's co-existence.
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right now. i believe that columbia is the company major motion picture studio that still supports mini-dvd [i might have the company wrong, but there is only one studio left; thats a fact]. as a writable media, we will all have to wait and see how far UMDs go, but the fact that they have been accepted as a medium faster than dvds were, and they are only playable in one medium [for the time being] really says alot.
if the psp fails as a gaming device [and once third party support starts to hit its stride, i dont foresee that happening], the psp is still a very, very viable movie player; that is unless apple can come up with an iMoviePlayer or something absurd. since the movie studios are even more paranoid about allowing downloads of their property, i dont see that happening either.
as for the quality titles comment, i meant that as with the playstation there are titles in every genre that appeal to everyone. not all, but many gameboy titles are just little sibling titles to console titles. looking at the upcoming lineup for PSP, you could say the same thing, but the fact is that overall the PSP will offer a more varied cross-section of genres.
competition is good, but you have to admit; both handhelds are aimed at the same markets. whenever the topic of handhelds come up, the inevitable comparison rears its head. DS vs PSP. "the psp didnt sell out, but the DS did". when they were still tentative devices, nintendo reps were talking it up against the psp. once the psp came out and stole alot of its 'ooh and ah' factor, the reps came out with the whole 'its not meant to compete with the psp' line. its just like whole: 'the ds is not a replacement for the gameboy line'. its corporate talk to make it seem like they have something better planned. the new gameboy will not come out for at least three years. they just came out with the ds, i respect nintendo more than to imagine that they would burn ds users by coming out with yet another system that quick. besides, if its not a replacement why would it be backwards compatible with the gameboy line? the same gameboy line which the psp is competing with...
geez, the psp is only available in North America and japan. the ds is available nearly everywhere.
regardless of whether the ds is outselling the psp, the psp still hasnt hit its stride yet. they are both great pieces of technology and will both have excellent games. i dont like the gimmick of using a stylus to play games, but thats a personal preference. now that the ds' killer app is out i expect it to outsell the psp. but once gta and gran turismo drop for psp, i expect the market to reverse.
by the way, am i the only person that thinks its an oxymoron that they refer to nintendogs as a 'killer app'? pure utter hilariousity!