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No Porn for You, iPod
TheBrutalTruth writes "Wired has an article explaining why pornographers are staying away from the Video IPod. From the article: 'When it comes to the iPod, Fayling said there are few rewards and many risks. Fayling emphasized the pitfalls of combining a device designed for younger audiences with content they are prohibited from viewing. "There's already a public perception that we (in the industry) are preying on youth," he said. "Without safeguards you open yourself up to more scrutiny from government and parents' groups.'"
Operates with one hand!
Sponges right off!
The iPod that is.
to say... "yeah right".
I know more than you drink.
I Couldn't care less.
On se Internetz nobody noes your German.
Why would young people ever want to view porn?! They're young enough to actually get laid. Why fantasize about what you can actually do?!
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
What sort of iPod accessories would porn on the iPod spawn?
In February, a man was arrested in Schenectady, New York, for viewing an adult movie in his vehicle. Also this year, Tennessee outlawed the display of obscene movies from a car. The City Council in Flint, Michigan, passed a measure imposing a $500 fine upon drivers who play pornographic movies in their cars.
WTF? there is a rule specifically against watching PORN in a CAR?
Is this a rampant problem? Why would anyone need a rule against that?
(I presume this is not about watching movies while driving)
Isn't there porn for PSP? I would see the PSP targeting a younger audience more than the iPod would.
After all those years of canalizing internet geekdom and posting-efforts of nerds all around the world, don't you find it somewhat shocking that there's no "pr0n"-Section on /.?!
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YTARY!
Last week, povPod.com started offering several downloadable videos "shot from the male porn star's point of view."
hah, now, THAT's a first person shooter.
Create porn blocking flag for ipod and sell it. Make one hojillion dollars.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
Here's what I don't get: who would watch porn on an iPod? First, you need privacy for porn. A group can be interesting; but it's usually just awkward. Next, you need semi-hands free operation. I guess you could prop you iPod agianst something...
I guess if you just have to jack off in the bathroom at work or you can't make it 4 stops on the subway, then go for it. But the other 99.98% of us will just delay our jacking till we get home.
I'd rather you do it wrong, than for me to have to do it at all.
I know this is Slashdot, but if you bothered to RTFA, you'd see that povPod.com is specifically mentioned in the article as providing porn for the iPod. Sheesh.
Agreed. And in the true spirit of the platform they will call it iPorn or iPr0n or something...
My other Beowulf cluster is... er...
Ah, come on now, sex sells. And, anyway, why would you sell a product that's not letting the customer use it for whatever they want? As soon as the product leaves the company, the company has nothing to do with what it's used for. Censorship is always worse than the content being censored. Just like with everything else, there is a way of getting around it -- there's a guide on how to convert pornographic material so it can still be put on iPods. I wish companies put their money on improving the features rather than to stop the customers from using it for whatever they want.
Soon monitors will be banned because they're used to view porn.
I suspect there wasn't a lot of potential there in the first place. Pr0n is popular on computers, dvd players, and magazines in the bathroom, because they're available in the comfort of your own home. I don't know about the rest of you, but I doubt I'd load my iPod up with pr0n just for the convenience of stopping for a quick pull in a public restroom.
I have heard that before. Ah "Bowling for Columbine" Really, from a international point of view this little town got a lot of media, allready.
A review of the porn business quickly reveals a pattern: some greedy guy (conincidentally enough, he's almost always a Jew) spots an opportunity to make a killing selling something a bit beyond the Pale.
First it was "dirty books" and black and white softcore photos -- much later hardcore, gangbangs, bukkake and goatse style stuff. The guy starts making money -- and voila, porn is everywhere and he's filthy rich.
If nobody steps up to the plate, I'm going to make it happen. I will be the Reuben Sturman of the iPod, damnit!
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_
... the screen is to small and frankly do you really want porn on the move, personally I listen to music in public, it's less likely to get me arrested.
No piPod ..
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
As someone said: "America is a strange country, you cannot have a breast shown on TV there unless it has been cut off". (Sorry, it's a re-translation).
Porn is on DVD now? Why the hell am I rewinding this tape.
I don't have an iPod, with or without video, but how is it you need special pay-per porn movies? Couldn't you just download regular free porn movies and load them on? Movies or TV shows work great on mobile phones (have to convert them to .3GP format first) so why not iPod?
"Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace." V.Stone, Microsoft Corporation
Speaking of povpod, isn't that a link form the article? I believe it also said something about SuicideGirls. RTFA?
Uh, if you'd bother to have read the article, this isn't about apple not allowing porn, this is about porn makers treading cautiously, allowing some of the smaller players to test the market and business models before they jump in.
Marxism is the opiate of dumbasses
2.5 inches just aint enough for me
Just another crappy blog
the ipod eats porn?
They've talked to exactly 1 (one) company distributing adult films. Wow! And of how many exactly? Actually several have jumped on already - a mere week after the new iPod was shipped to users! This is a non-story of tabloid bullshit, but I would expect no less of Slashdot than to rehash it I'm sorry to say :(
"I tend to think of OS X as Linux with QA and Taste", James Gosling, creator of Java
A few scenes later and he is in the back of a jeep with a busted leg driving away from a raging vagina monster.
Way to police yourself. It's your responsibility.
"If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, A hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer
Again, Steve kicks all your asses. Values baby.
Okay, so you don't want to view porn. That's fine. You shouldn't have to if you don't want to.
But I bet you'll be happy to see the ACLU and its lawyers when someone tries to block something you do want to see.
Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword...the things you don't like get the same protection as the things you do like. The Constitution is funny like that.
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
Let me be the first to say it, but... Get the FUCK outta here! This coming from the industry that exploits the 18 to 21 year old genre?
Yeah, right....
I like big butts and I cannot lie.
but I would expect no less of Slashdot than to rehash it
It is a bit more precise to say "Zonk" (or l'il Zonky, as his fans call him) than Slashdot. L'il Zonky has a habit of taking PR pieces, old news and generally unimportant crap and putting it up on Slashdot. Some of the other editors are quite good.
I recommend you keep Z.I.N.S in mind -- "Zonk is not Slashdot."
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_
Introducing the all new iPorn. Wank Different.
To each his own.
Oh honestly. You may view it as garbage, but sex sells. Plus, it's sad that people would see porn as garbage but not mention anything about rampant violence.
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If you read the article, you'll find these guys, who have "point of view" porn. Their concept sounds good -- the format of the porn is meant to correspond to the type of experience you'll have while masturbating with your iPod -- or maybe that's just the kind of orn you get when you make a cheapo porn movie with one guy holding a camera, for the duration of the whole flick.
The stuff is free, so download away. I'm sure the pornographers will appreciate the Slashdot market knowing about their fine product -- it is their crowd of early adopters.
Whippee -- everybody, get out your khock and balls and whack away!! (that's an Adam Sandler reference).
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_
So you toss a porn movie or two on the iPod to wank it in the bathroom or whatever. What happens when your friends and girlfriend inevitably want to toy around with the thing?
Well, is it difficult to pass porn from your PC to iPod? Transcode your PC porn and transfer them... Also, come on now! Is it so nessecairy to view porn ALL DAY??
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But those are often the best porn movies!
I remember when Williamson (our mayor, who is a convicted felon btw) passed that law. I laughed hard, i heard it on the radio in the morning. Can't fix our screwed up roads, or our crime problems, but sure as hell can stop us from watching porn in our cars.
povPod?
What, I can now render my Pov-Ray scenes on the go?
Nice way to use those CPU cycles when you get sick of listening to music, I guess...
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Call me cynical but this just looks like a cheap method of advertising for the two porn websites.
Slashdot should not have linked to the Wired article and and Wired should not have linked to porn sites, however i suspect they are being paid to do so.
It was interesting to read this article after just last night hearing a short news blurb on my local CBS affiliate about the porn industry is "embracing" the new iPod with man on the street interviews with people who don't like the idea of having the "guy sitting next to them in class looking at porn," and overarching implications that parents should be alarmed and ready to take up arms to defend their kids' innocence.
Other perspectives:
Pornographers embracing iPod
Will iPod Be Eye for Porn?
Harness iPod's dollar power -- porn on the go
How do you know Apple's new device will succeed? iPod Porn
Apple iPod delivers "iPorno" revolution
A normal person exposed to pr0n, however, can be aroused and is more likely to become addicted to it and to have it change the way they perceive members of the opposite sex.
We all have values, just some of us don't like fairy tale worshippers to tell us what to do and how to live.
Personally I think the Bible is soul destroying legal sh**. I'm not crying about the lack of a ban on that junk because I realise what the consequences of allowing censorship is.
The adult anY Of Us industry does not pAy foR that kind of slEazy adveRtIsements in-line in content. NothinG indicaTes that this is very common. There are also nobody In the inDustry who posts on Slashdot just to promote theIr websites. This post is meant to be informative anD NOT just something I wrote to make you click my link and then onto the porn sites listed theer. Such claims are just Bogous, wIerD arE Not that corrUpt, nothinG indicates tHey got money.
9/11: Never forget it was a false-flag operation
I was about to, then I did whois and found someone took the name back in 1998.. I will of course follow your idea as soon as you come up with another great name that's not already taken.
9/11: Never forget it was a false-flag operation
I seem to think that its the opposite. Although they may market the iPod as device for young, cool people, very few young people have them. This especially holds true for the more expensive units such as the video iPod. Not a lot of parents are willing to shell out $300 so their kids can listen to music. I know I never had anything that extravagant as a kid. Most people I see with iPods are 20+. More kids have TVs and DVD players in their rooms. That doesn't stop them from producing porn on DVD.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
Looks sweeet. According to the manual, it can even operate in directory-driven mode! Just the thing I've been looking for. What can you say about the UI as a user? Now, if there only was a SDK available...
Mods: Why this was modded as flamebait? This product seems IMHO very reasonable.
soul destroying legal sh**
You do realise you can say 'shit' here? Slashdot is unlikely to censor posts that contain words like shit unless they are completely pointless posts otherwise.
Ask me about repetitive DNA
I went to buy a pornPod the moment I learned they now support pictures. I winked at the girl behind the counter and asked her to sell me a model fit for my person. She sold me a nano. :(
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Later,
Phil
Does no-one appreciate the artistic value anymore ?
Now if you really want a wank, I've heard Van Gogh is pretty good !
umm.. i think you misread. apple isn't stopping the porn industry, the porn industry is refraining (so far). there is no way apple can stop them if they wanted. if you support a video format, you have to play whatever is encoded in that format (wether it's an ipod, a tv, or a computer). it's like saying "apple won't allow lame songs to be played on the ipod, but creative and iriver will because they are desperate". i understand you want to clap for apple, but isn't really about them this time. besides, watching porn has nothing to do with "values".
also, i'm sure apple might secretly encourage the porn industry to setup on the ipod. not that the ipod needs any help, but having the vote of the porn industry is a big boost. just look at vhs.
The children will be entirely safe once freedom is entirely destroyed.
Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
Everyone has values, its just that sometimes they're not the same as yours.
I bet even Richard Stallman has watched porn at one time or another.
You mean these iPorn adverts aren't real? iPorn Portable HDD iPod/iPorn. Boy, that'll disappoint a lot of slashdotters.
"You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
has an fm tuner, line in recording
And for the people who need those two things, cool. The vast majority of people could not care less, as evidenced by what players sell in the millions and those that don't.
supports MP3, OGG, WMA, ASF, FLAC, WAV, MPEG4, JPG, TXT, AVI
The iPod supports MP3, WAV, AAC, Apple lossless, JPG, H.264, MPEG4, Audible, and text. One big feature of AAC that the iAudio misses out on is bookmarking. You start listening to an AAC podcast or audiobook, and it will remember where you stopped listening.
The iPod plays video at 30 fps while the iAudio only manages 15. The iPod also has larger capacity, longer battery life, and a display with three times the resolution of the iAudio's, while being smaller, lighter and thinner. You can also hook up an iPod to a TV to watch your videos...I see no mention of that feature on iAudio's site. Finally, the iAudio's controls look pretty poor next to the Clickwheel.
There's iAudio x5 that beats the shit out of iPods all day
Whatever you say, Baghdad Bob. Unless you really need audio recording, the iPod quite clearly spanks the iAudio on all fronts.
But I bet you'll be happy to see the ACLU and its lawyers when someone tries to block something you do want to see.
Like say, Rush Limbaugh?
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
So what if the industry stays away from it? One of iPod/vPod/ITMS strengths is in 'x-casting', whether it be audio/video or what have you. That will make it more of an amateur review platform, make it very low quality with very realistic views, and make it immensly more popular then anything the bigwigs have to offer just for the sake of it being somewhat "underground." Not to mention the vPod-casts in this arena that I've found so far are *free*, with RSS Feeds to keep me posted as to when it's been updated. I can see that the industry's "product" will never be offered through ITMS and they have to interest in high-volume inexpensive distribution (just rent a movie in a hotel room if you want to see their prime business model $$$). So in the mean time, relax. Sex may sell, but in the realm of vPod it can also be free or very inexpensive to satisfy those natural urges. And the fact that it plays music and TV shows as well, gives you ample opportunity to cuddle with yourself while basking in the afterglow.
If you're half as beautiful naked, you'd be 4 times as beautiful with twice as many clothes on.
The submissions says pornographers are staying away, but I've been reading the opposite conclusion in the past few weeks:
iPod Porn Now Available
Apple iPod delivers "iPorno" revolution
I think it's silly to think pornographers won't be taking advantage of the iPod. Millions of people have them, and millions would love to have porn on them. It's easy business.
"Sufferin' succotash."
I wish I could be 17 or 18 the rest of my life :) Waste not your time with porn and /. young iPod usrs.
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
Exactly. They'll just distribute the vids in iPod friendly format and let the buyers/users/pirates do whatever they want with them.
sulli
RTFJ.
So you still use Betamax then?
sulli
RTFJ.
The Bible is full of porn. Erotica at least. I demand literal interpretation of the Word of God!
sulli
RTFJ.
I believe it also said something about SuicideGirls.
Which is right here
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Let's say for a second that this guy is right in regards to his fears of "preying upon children" and whatnot. Now that iPod Video exists, does this mean all porno sites dealing in content playable in Quicktime now risk being accused of making their content readily available to minors in an iPod-compatible format?
I would not be surprised if someone at Microsoft is spreading the FUD on this one to scare the industry into converting their offerings entirely to Windows Media format. Porno will ultimately decide which media format will remain on top... everything else is simply along for the ride.
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certianly, slashdot is a place where you can talkk about whatever the cukf you want, saying whatever you like about the shit going on in the world.
Theres shit going on everywhere, everyone shits out their ass.
Cept those bag people with the shit out the side... creeepy shits they are.
then theres the people that shit out the mouth. you know those ones. that talk all that shit.
ahh what a big fat pile of shity shit gets shat out there in teh wide shity world.
on as side note
*here resides an ascii art composed entirely of the word shit spelling the word shit, that was killed by the slashdot post filter for repetition and whitespace... damn you*
XML - A clever joke would be here if
You think that's hard, try polishing the one-eyed gopher at the same time.
Slashdot - where whining about luck is the new way to make the world you want.
What can I say:
Here are two to start it off
http://www.povpod.com/main.php
http://www.ipodporn.com/
The article is full of rubbish.
Just like PSP porn, I'm sure this will fill its niche nicely.
How long someone makes a one click Poddify* application. I imagine an FFMPEG based application where you simply could drag and drop any movie and it creates a suitable Video iPod file. The idea is that you would have nothing to tweak and it would do all the magic of deciding the right settings for you.
*I reserve no rights on the name
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
While the extremist Christian right in the U.S. (AKA the American Taliban) will exert pressure on the porn industry and legislators to keep porn off of the iPod, there will be many overseas porn producers who will gladly fill that market niche.
In Europe, children might catch a glimpse a 2.5" screen showing people having sex. In the U.S., children will be able to see, on large-screen home theatre systems, Fear Factor episodes where people eat live spiders, worms, and slugs, drink cow bile, eat coagulated blood, and bite open -- and drink the liquid from -- cow's eyes. After they tire of that, they can watch people get brutally murdered in countless television shows and movies.
Boy, those poor kids in Europe are going to be scarred for life...
From the article:
... pornographers eagerly jump on new technology long before it goes mainstream
One could argue that the iPod is mainstream and the liklyhood of the Video iPod being mainstream from the outset. It is very easy to convert any video from Quicktime to the codecs that the video iPod will work with and, if one has the right compression tool, like Sorensen's tools, one could convert from WMF or just about anything else.
People in the porn industry are pretty happy with the money they're making presently off of girlie pictures and salacious downloadable movies of sex acts from the routine to the insane. The codecs that the video iPod wants to use are not really high quality so pornographers are counting on the individual to do their own converting from the higher-quality that they sell to the lower quality usable on the video iPod.
I have heard some discussion from friends of mine in the television industry about putting one's demo reel on a video iPod and most prefer a larger screen, like the one on the Play Station Portable. I believe it can play back a wider range of codecs and plays in much higher quality.
There all ready exist portable pr0n playback devices. They are called "laptops." I have seen people using them to play back DVD movies. I have never seen anyone playing back anything other than a general-release film. And one can fully understand why they are not playing back the gigabytes of pr0n (undoubtedly) on their laptops because they are not in the privacy of their own home. One tends to think of sexual acts in private, not public.
I occasionally wince at the laws being passed by the various states that are designed to prevent the playing of pornographic material in cars. When I'm in a car, I'm thinking about the road and the scenery around the road. And if I'm driving, I'm really just not going to watch anything than the road and my mirrors. That's pretty much it. I suppose there are kooks out there that think they can drive while watching something but I think they would quickly wind up in the hospital -- either excited or not excited about the video they just watched (probably not excited if they were badly injured). I think this is yet another example about how the attentions of our legislatures have been diverted from the service of the public to some strange obsessions.
iPods are great portable music devices. Not great video devices because the screens are low resolution and tiny. Porn is something that is generally consumed in the privacy of one's home. Kind of reduces the whole enjoyment factor if one is out in public.
Gods don't kill people, people with gods kill people.
Hehe, okay. I don't actually use the system to mod down posts from my 'foes', I just use it as a marking of someone who has said something I didn't like. I can't remember all the reasons I foe people, but some include if they support that Russian music site and don't understand copyright. If someone unfairly bashes Apple ("The iTMS sucks. I'll only use it when songs cost 10 cents without DRM. Anyone who uses it now is an idiot."), etc. If you promote UN take over of the internet or more government control of our life, I might also make you a foe.
/.'s preferences) because they'll say informative stuff sometimes, but it just serves as a warning to me.
Think of it this way, I have so many foes, that it must not take much to get on my foe list (there fore decreasing the severity of the foe list). Again, I don't mod posts from foes down (using
Andrew
PS: Not like you'll ever read this since you posted AC and will probably forget about it, but oh well.
And since when are parents buy $300 portable music devices for their kids? I had to save money to buy myself a $25 walkman when I was a kid :P
Probably the same parents giving their 11 year olds cell phones.
"Fayling emphasized the pitfalls of combining a device designed for younger audiences with content they are prohibited from..."
Alex my answer is "What would a tobacco executive never say?"
Oh, I know who. It's the guy who says, "Well, that stretch of road is so boring. I need something to watch on my long commute." The problem with those customers, is that they only buy once and then they suddenly leave the market in a kinetic smear.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
http://suicidegirls.com/ipod/
.m4v's as well.
Suicide Girls is the site that's somehow managed to get itself to be considered, at least in some fringe academic[esque] conferences I've been attending that tend to deal with pop culture and [others more specifically on] video games, some strange sort of 'woman's lib porn', where women with 'non-standard' body profiles (which apparently means that it's not "Beautiful young women" but the much more liberating, "Beautiful young women with tattoos and piercings") are in the spreads, apparently without any men. They have blogs where they talk with site members, etc, which I believe is to make it harder to objectify them, and there was apparently some shindig a while back where some of them quit the site for some reason but their pictures and blogs stayed online. But enough about some lame excuse 'explaining' why I'm still a morally just person for looking at women without their clothes on.
In any event, it's a porn site (don't ask me to describe it, but, by virtue of being human, I apparently have the innate ability to know it when I see it) and you can download videos to your iPod and even subscribe to a video podcast. I can only imagine other sites will, at some point, have a giant black monolith fall in their backyard so that they too can figure out how to make
Porn ignoring video iPods indeed. Rubbish. If it's a medium, it's been used to transmit porn.
It's all 0s and 1s. Or it's not.
Porn on the iPod? That's nothing! I've got porn on my TI-92+ :)
http://suicidegirls.com/ipod/
(For those who don't know, this is a direct response to the moral majority non-scientists who state that "pot is a gateway drug".)
It would be interesting if every time a group attempted to restrict the freedom of speech guaranteed by our Constitution, we all ganged up and asked the government to restrict the freedom of speech of the instruction book they're using to bully us (i.e., the Bible, Koran, etc).
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
The ui is great, just the one toggle on the front. It is more powerful than appears at first and many features are not even listed in the specs. You start to notice all of the subtle stuff once you get the manual.
I purchased mine BEFORE the video ipod came out. I bought it specifically because there wasn't ipod video available, and I dislike the closed nature of the ipod. Additionally they already have a successor to the x5 called the a2 due out soon, which even the most zealous of iPod lovers have to admit blows the iPod away. http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/a2/ Yeah, the ipod video has ALMOST caught up to their old offering, but it isn't even close to their a2.
ymmv
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Suicide girls has a video iPod blog which is syndicated.
My UID is prime is yours?
there is no way apple can stop them if they wanted.
Apple could push an update for video iPods that restricts playback to Apple-signed content and locks out non-updated iPods from being used with iTMS. It would however also kill any video podcasts that aren't distributed through iTMS and any other personally converted video content not submitted to Apple for approval.
Not that that would be smart (it would be a damn fool thing to do), only that it would be possible. I don't think Apple would.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Showing porn in your car makes it visible to other people not in your car, especially when you're stationary.
Its small enough to put near interesting parts of the anatomy without difficulty and detection. As the iPod acquires more functionality, this one could open new markets.
Thanks, that was a good answwer.
I think I just became desensitized to bad grammar and spelling.