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Cost-Effective Server Room Air Conditioning?
at0mic26 writes "I am currently tasked with finding a cost effective solution to our 30+ degree Celsius server room. The only air conditioning currently provided is a single duct pipe from one of two air conditioner units. I was thinking of stealing air from the second air conditioning unit with some sheet metal work, but it likely will not be sufficient — and would not have tolerance for both AC units being offline for any amount of time. An ideal supplemental portable AC unit is what I am after, however I'm finding it cost prohibitive, with $600+ humidity controlled AC unit, plus 20 amp socket requirement, plus contract work to make a hole in the wall for outside drainage so that the unit does not flood the place. What sort of successful cheaper air conditioning solutions have you come up with?"
Move the room to Antarctica, turn off the heat.
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if you can't afford $600 to cool the room, you need to turn off your servers.
Dry ice.
Just imagine the theatrics.
Dry ice and a fan? Seriously though, there's not much you can do here. What is the cost to the business if hardware starts failing if it overheats? How does that compare with the total cost of installing another A/C unit?
just stick a boxfan in there.
I toured CIHost's Bedford TX datacenter a few years ago. I saw a boxfan blowing on a bunch of servers and a single power strip plugged into 4 or 5 of those servers that was stretched across to a wall outlet so that it was about 8" off the floor. Pefect to trip over nevermind the walmart quality parts.
tour was over after i saw that.
I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
There are no cheap A/C solutions. Portable home units lack the tonnage to adequate cool even a small bedroom, let alone a room full of fire-breathing servers. Industrial portables for 'spot' cooling, that have sufficient tonnage start in the low $10K rang and quickly move up. My suggestion is to get an A/C pro to do up the spec for you and then bid it out with guarantees and such in the RFP.
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Never try and just make do with the cooling.
The cost of doing it right pales in comparison with not doing it right and something happening.
See subject. Don't just buy servers and think of the cooling problem later. Cooling is expensive, but it costs less if you install it at the same time you set up your facility.
Apologies - I realise this doesn't really answer your question but it's an experience you, or others can gain from this situation.
>> I am currently tasked with finding a cost effective solution to our 30+ degree celcius server room.
First, its "celsius" and not "celcius".
On track, you need to check the SEER rating. A rating of at least 15 is good and energy efficient. Many of the Carrier models have decent SEER ratings. We use it in our office (a telecom) and its a huge saving over the old A/C which had a 10 SEER rating.
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If you posted more information you could get a reasonable answer.
How much space?
How much heat is the equipment giving off?
What is your budget?
At what temperature do you want to operate the room?
How quickly is the heat output of the equipment growing?
How much excess capacity do you need?
If you can't answer those questions you won't get a workable solution.
If the room averages a temperature of 86 degrees (sorry I'm american) and I wanted to get it cooler there are a lot of options, however what size room are we talking about and where is it located (room, ground floor, basement?) Lots of different options and choices depending on lots of variables that weren't in the post.
I'm not trying to be a dick, just wondering because cooling a room for a small business like the one I work in that houses all of 3 servers in a room a little larger than your average walk-in closet is a lot different than trying to cool a room with 100 rack mount servers lined up in rows.
A google search though brings up a lot of places like http://www.ptsdcs.com/ - might just be worthwhile to google for what you need.
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Cheaper A/C alternatives? Do nothing. Let the room overheat and replace all the computing hardware. So what if you're down for a week?
Or suck it up and foot the bill to do it right.
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You can use standard window units - but the key is insulation - you have to have a very well insulated and sealed room. I built my own server room by adding two additional layers of insulation on to the existing sheetrock (styrofoam with a plastic vinyl 4x8 sheet paneling and then putting silicon on all the seams, then using window units (with a backup unit). I can keep the room at a constant 61 degrees F with two full height racks running with a 8000-12000 btu 220 window unit.
The best idea I've seen is to use enclosed racks, sealed with weatherstripping except for vents at the bottom, and put a duct in the top that leads to an exhaust fan on the roof. Now you're not trying to cool the hot air produced by the servers; you're removing the hot air produced by the servers. Cool air from the already-air-conditioned room will be sucked up through ventilation at the bottom of the rack to keep the servers cool. And since your existing AC doesn't have to cool all that hot air, it should be able to keep the room temperature down to 20C.
Note that this is a long-term solution in terms of lower energy costs. I have no idea what it would cost up front to implement.
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Seriously, the coward shitteth you not. If you can't afford $600 to cool the room, then consolidate your services onto fewer machines and shut the others off, because they're obviously not making you enough money to be worth running.
If, on the other hand, your boss is a cheapskate then do something like I did before - moved the servers out to my desk and stuck a honking big fan at one side to blow air past them. It had the very big plus side of being obvious to everyone that we had to keep the servers cool, and reminded them every day that the alternative was buying some aircon.
A 20 amp socket, if you're in the US is required for all commercial buildings. You don't have to pay for that. But $600 and a hole in a wall is too much $$ for a server room? That's pretty crazy. One server probably costs more than that. What are you looking for, dry ice and a fan?
I don't respond to AC's.
You have less than $2500.00 in cost there. Cripes the Libert unit in the server room here cost me $15,000 to have complete. $600 is dirt cheap $2500 is dirt cheap for what you are looking at.
Even if you did the Half-arse way and put 4 window air conditioners in the wall you still need the electrician to run wires.
You'll still come out the same price.
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Bite the bullet and get what you need right the first time, because the repair and replace if it isn't done correctly will make $1500 seem like a drop in the bucket...
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I recommend taking a look at MovinCool (www.movincool.com) products.
Really I have been wondering if one of those big fans like I see on some restaurant kitchens would help our server room.
Suck the hot air out and draw cold air from the rest of the building in.
Honestly a better solution is to reduce the heat.
How many servers are you running? How many are old PIV class machines?
How many could you replace with say new low heat Intel or AMD based systems.
Have you looked at building a few BIG boxes with new CPUs and running Zen or VMWare on them. Cut the total number of servers down.
It maybe cheaper to get new more efficient servers than to upgrade the AC. Not to mention the down time you may have when they install the new AC.
You may want to look at making less heat before you spend money on better cooling.
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so we're asking slashdot for a bunch of stupid answers.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
from your budget, you clearly only have one server in play, so put it in a refrigerator.
Cut a hole in the door to let the cables in and seal around them with that expanding foam stuff in a spray can.
Sounds like that would max out your budget.
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Don't use people coolers, those stand alone AC units are not designed for 24x7 operation. I have seen computer rooms fry when they have been used because when they fail they fail spectacularly!
Bight the bullet and install a proper unit. The first time your people cooler dies, it will cost you more than proper AC.
The temperature 30+ says nothing to me. If I know the area of your machine room, the total number of watts from your equipment, maybe I can be more specific. FYI, I have eliminated the drainage issue by installing a small 12V pump myself and getting the pipes to the nearest kitchen sink, so no drilling on external walls.
If you're talking about concern over $600 price points, then all is lost. It sounds like you don't have the money to provide proper A/C to a residential home much less a commercial server room. I suggest you look into co-locating your servers to a real data center and pay a monthly fee. You'll have lower up front costs and your PHB probably isn't smart enough to recognize the long-term implications.
Good luck.
What company do you work for that can afford multiple servers at 10k each, give or take, and a server room and then balks at the price of an air conditioner? I like the idea of letting it fail, then going to your boss with downtime costs and recovery costs (you do have a recovery plan?) Then mention that the $600 plus looks pretty good.
In your posting you talked about adding ducts to steal A/C from a second unit. To work decently you would need to not only add a new output duct 'run', but also a new return 'run' (that is, unless the 2 units share a network of return ducting).
Does it hurt to hear them lying? Was this the only world you had?
...You can use standard window units
Maybe he has a F/OSS shop. Geeze!
What sort of sucessful cheaper air coniditoning solutions have you come up with?
You've already found the cheap option. Your best bet is to not skimp (unless you like cooking hardware, assuming a reasonable growth rate in computing power under your care) though some of the steps you can take (e.g. hot/cold aisles) are really just rearranging your existing kit and adding some sheet metal work. But that doesn't allow you to skimp on getting adequate cooling. (If you want to know what "adequate cooling" is, ask a real expert; the answer depends on lots of facts you've not revealed.)
Be aware that in large datacenters, the cost of keeping them cool will usually dominate. Really. Be prepared to be your A/C salesman's good customer...
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This may seem a bit odd but try the basement of the building. Basements are usually cooler then the upper floors.
Simply blow the cooler basement air into your server room.
The down side of this is moisture and the outside chance of CO poisoning.
See! Problem solved!
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I'm no expert, but according to our consultants if more than one aircon unit is serving the same area they will conflict and one or the other (or both) will be likely to fail. (This even applies to leaving a door open between two rooms that are served by different units.)
I've got to admit that I've never quite understood their explanations as to why this is, but FYI.
Seriously, you ask yourself how much your servers are worth, what it'd cost to replace them, or do without them, and then you can factor in how much you should spend on setting up your cooling. There are several ways to do that, but few of them are cheap, and if your systems are at all valuable, you shouldn't balk at spending thousands on your needs. Since it seems 600 dollars is too much for you, all I can suggest is looking at your ventilation, or possibly replacement of your existing systems with more energy-efficient ones.
Forget drainage, you need a hole in the wall to let out the hot air that the air conditioner produces as waste.
My buddy, who pulls six figures doing A/C installs and consulting (and earns every penny), discussed this with me a couple months ago. Basically, good A/C is as complicated as putting together a good database. There's air flow and direction and insulation and compression and all sorts of things you'd never even consider. You can get by without training, but you should expect it to fail, and badly.
Depending on the size and population of your server room, you might expect to need a couple of $10K cooler units on the roof. Call your local industrial-service A/C or ducting guys and get an estimate for your BTUs and target temperature. That cost will make your boss cry- but give him a list of what the equipment in the rack would cost to replace and he'll sign off on it.
You wouldn't want the A/C guy to design your db, your boss shouldn't expect you to put together a good A/C solution.
I think there's a basic unanswered question here that will determine which of the above types of solutions you aim for.
If you're trying to make the actual server room a more pleasant place to be, you really do need to look into additional A/C capacity, and that's just not gonna be cheap.
But if all you're trying to do is keep your servers from overheating, there may be other ways of doing this. It could involve dedicated A/C units, but needn't necessarily. Non-A/C options include installing fans (not Wal-Mart box fans, something more permanent; talk to a local HVAC contractor), opening windows, installing specialized vent ducts, etc.
Either way, you're probably going to want to get HVAC in there. Proper cooling for computers, especially servers, is something like proper insurance for driving a car: the question isn't whether you can afford it, it's whether you can afford not to have it.
Just leave it as it is. Yes everyone likes to put their professional demeanor on and make proper recommendations and use words like BTU and SEER, but everyone here has seen a bunch of servers jammed into a poorly ventilated closet work just fine. Computers have pretty high tolerances for heat, and usually the worst that happens is the computer will shut down if it gets really bad. I remember one place I worked had modems that got so hot you couldn't touch them; every once in a while they'd stop working because of it but you'd just sort of jostle them around and they'd cool off just fine and start working again.
Prices should start around 3 - 4 k installed.
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You get what you pay for in terms of reliability, electicity consumption and power. I expect that server-room grade AC will be a bit more expensive than that.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
You should not consider trying to do this on the cheap. If you keep in mind the cost of early equipment failures, installing a real dedicated AC unit becomes less costly. Check out a Mini-Split unit. Some of them have very high efficiencies and they do not require any ducting, just two lines to transfer the coolant and a drain line to get rid of moisture and power of course.
BIGGEST mistakes you can make on a server room is going cheap/unreliable cooling and power, you'll regret both when you have a room full of burned-up toasters.
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OK, here's a way to approach the problem.
APC sells racks with integrated cooling. They have an online configurator program. Run the configurator, fill in your info, and you'll get a rack design.
Try changing the "watts per rack" number. Watch what happens as the configurator adds air conditioning units and fans. Note that as the power density goes up, the cost goes way up.
This is where they start to ask questions like "Do we really need a Web 2.0 web site?" Now you're starting to get the picture.
I'm not partticularly recommending APC. They just happen to have a useful online tool, one which can give you something to take to your bosses to give them a sense of the costs as you add more equipment to a rack.
Steven Wright has a line about "I bought a humidifier and a dehumidifier and put them together in a room to fight it out." That was what happened with our dual A/C system in the first computer room I helped build, back in the early 80s to support our VAXes. We had a couple of chilled-water Liebert units that were bigger than the computers, and management had decided to get two of them so we'd never lose cooling. Turned out we couldn't actually run them both at once, though I don't remember if they were fighting more about temperature or humidity - one unit would be pushing a bunch of cold dry air under the floor, which would blow into the sensors of the other unit, which would push a bunch of warm wet air under the floor, etc. And any time there was a power failure, the A/C wouldn't automatically restart, but the VAX would, so if this happened overnight or on a weekend, the room would reach 130 degrees (F), at which point the power system would decide their might be a fire and shut everything down until the room got cooler - which would take a while, since it wouldn't let us use the A/C. So we'd get in on Monday morning, have to open the back doors to the lab and go steal desk fans.
My late-90s lab had much smaller equipment - a bunch of routers and PCs in an enclosed office - but it still generated enough heat that we needed extra A/C. We didn't own the building, and the A/C unit that the landlord put in the ceiling would occasionally ice up and start dripping water onto our desk, but fortunately it usually missed the rack. For a couple of weeks during one of the A/C repairs, they gave us a big standalone thing that blew cool air into the room and warm air out through the ceiling ductwork. It had enough room in the top to chill a couple of bottles of wine, so our winetasting that month did whites.
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If the outside air is cold (winter, night, etc.) blowing it into the server room costs next to nothing.
Of course, if it's humid outside air, it may not be a good idea.
I have seen multiple server rooms full of systems ruined by A/C related failures (directly via overheating, indirectly by fires or sprinkler discharges after A/C failures).
Don't skimp!
Tell your employer to spend the money needed to get a proper A/C installation. "portable" units are ok - if they're professional grade, not home grade, and properly drained and wired and vent ducted. Permanent installation units are better, generally - cheaper for given tonnage of rating.
In either case, put in environmental monitoring ($400 or less) to send out alerts if it gets too hot or something else goes wrong.
IT folks tend to either not understand or not believe in the significance of getting facilities right. Experienced IT folks, with decades in the industry, know better. Take our advice - spend the money, get it right.
Figure out what your actual power is, what the UPS capacity is (remember, if the A/C isn't on UPS but the systems are, after a power failure the room will start heating up until the UPS is exhausted!). Definitely install monitoring (can be cheaper than any rackmount server is).
Distribute the servers in conspicuous places around the office, with your Bosses office as the home of the most loud and obnoxious machines.
This won't solve your cooling problem, but it might solve your budget issue if you don't get fired.
Looking at the cooling issue more broadly, here are a couple of resources that provide good information on techniques to optimize cooling on a budget:
The Hot Aisle: Great blog from Steve O'Donnell with practical ways to implement hot-aisle or cold-aisle containment and economizers.
Data Center Knowledge: Recent articles look at "roll your own" thermal monitoring solutions and using excess heat in swimming pools and greenhouses.
I once had to do essentially this in a slightly unusual situation: the server room was by an outside wall, and on the other side of the wall they were about to put in a new lawn. We just dug down extra deep (about 4 feet) and got about 100 feet of 6' diameter corrugated plastic drainpipe (intended to be buried, the corrugations make it somewhat flexible), covered it with dirt+lawn, and finally put a fan on one end and recirculated the server room air through this. Only had to buy a fan and the pipe, and the long-term power bills were almost zero (just the fan). And it's incredibly reliable.
Curses you beat me! Fluorinert has definately got it's advantages. Once you get past the enormous startup costs, all you'd need is an appropriately sized radiator outside and the cost to run a liquid pump at a surprisingly low volume.
So all told you are talking about $1,000 dollars for AC? Frankly that is a pretty cheap solution for datacenter cooling.
Seriously, I'm all for maximizing economic efficiency, but you can't cool for free.
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There are some great options for minimizing the ongoing costs of cooling:
But any of those are going to take some investment. Remember, server acquisition cost is 1/3 of the total budget, the other 2/3 includes electricity and cooling, more than maintenance costs, on average.
Like others have said, virtualize, slow your CPU clocks, take unused disks offline, replace your power supplies, all good, but if your servers aren't worth $600 to cool (and therefor keep operational), how the heck do they justify your salary to run them? (hint: maybe they don't)
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If you can afford a window, open it.
The outside air is probably cooler then the inside air... if it's not, tough luck, you can't afford anything else.
Dig a hole, install pipe + water + pump, sink heat in to the ground. Ongoing costs = electricity to run a pump that only has to overcome fluid friction loss within the pipe. Cost variance over a year through different seasons = 0 since the ground in mostly a constant temp unlike an AC unit trying to sink heat to the air in the summer.
knock out one of the walls and put in one of those movie hurricane fans that are like 10 feet tall and run on a v8 engine :D Then crank it up! It'll move air through that place so fast, the temp inside will be the temp outside! Now I'm from Wisconsin so that's rarely a problem but in like CA that'd be bad. But seriously, if $600 is out of your budget, you need to simply move the hot air out. Buy some ducting and install like a 12" fan in the ceiling (where the hot air goes) that blows down the duct and into the hallway or the closest large room. That's kinda what I do in my room at home cuz it goes up about 5 degrees Fahrenheit per hour of 3D gaming. So I blast it all out into the living room with a fan and it cools in back down to normal in about 3 minutes
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Increase the airflow THROUGH the room by using an exhaust fan. Just vent it from near the ceiling to another space.
More airflow = more heat removed
I'm a small company - we have 8 Dell Servers in a 10 by 10 room. Its probably 80+ degrees there all the time - even hotter on weekends when the building turns the AC off or down. I've never had one hardware problem attributable to heat.
A fan and an open door is about your only option with your budget..
My last job tried the cheep route for the test lab.. 20-30 servers in a 15x30 room hooked to a roof mount AC unit (don't know the tonage).. That stupid thing would break down every couple of months and couldn't keep up with the servers when it did work.
They tried some portable 1.5 ton units to suplement the roof unit but it was still always hot in there. 80-90f was the average
Then the portables started to break..
It all went to hell one weekend when everything failed and the room got up over 120f. The racks were to hot to touch and you could smell the servers cooking..
Only then the directors figured out that we couldn't complete testing on his pet projects because the lab was fried. Nobody listened before..
Then they wen't way way overkill and bought a 20 ton CRAC. The thing almost didn't hit through the door.
After that you didn't want to be in there without a heavy coat and a something heavy to keep your papers from blowing away (no joke!)
Bottom line.. cheep fixes will break sooner or later.. they are not designed for 365/24/7 operation at max capacity.. You need enough cooling to cool the room below the set temp and let the compressor cycle off for a bit.
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Turn the servers off.
or explain to the powers that be what heat does to IT equipment, and what a complete failure could mean for their future and everyone's livelihood.
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I have thought about this a lot... and there are some simple solutions.
1. When the air outside is cooler than the air in your computer room, bring air in from outside via the Air Conditioner. Why cool air when Mother Nature cools the air for you.
2. Combine the hot air from your servers into a duct. Have this go up to the roof. In most cases send the hot air outside. Why cool air that you have just heated.
3. Use natural cooling when possible. If you can just use the warm air for heating in the rest of the building things will be a heap cheaper to run all arount.
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Oh yeah.. great idea..
On his budget you could afford about 1/2 gallon of the stuff.. maybe he could keep his iPod cool when he's roasting in the server room.
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Yeah, plus you get to wear cool SCUBA gear whenever you have to change a board or system out! How cool would that be?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
FFS, call an expert. If an engineer with a design firm wrote in and asked how to set up the company's servers, but he doesn't want to hire any IT people, everyone would be incensed at his stupidity for not calling in an expert. But somehow IT training makes people qualified HVAC design engineers?
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Seriously though, I put in a commercial grade window unit. I had to cut a hole in a brick wall, second story (glad that we own lifts here) while the server room was operational.
I keep it set to 72F with a smart fan option, and it has been running 24/7 for 4 years now. It is cooling 12 machines in 2 racks, PBX and switches/routers plus all the UPSs. Positioned the hole in the wall so that it blows across the front of the racks. Nary a problem. The unit cost $800 from McMaster-Carr, and I spent a weekend installing it. I'm fortunate that I spent 25 years in the building/fabrication trades before moving to IT, and I don't have to have anyone's permission to do the right thing.
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Seriously you can't afford AC for your Servers? And I wanted to get suggestions for a robot pigeon deterent for my pool...how was that worse? I jest...Kinda.
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The problem with the logical solution bringing in external air in great quantity is humidity and the climate in your area. The best solution to this I've seen is system that only kicks in to dehumidify external air, for example on a rainy day humidity surpassing 90% is not good for equipment. It's also the only time I've ever been cold in a server room at 12 C, outside was 5 C! Other than changing dust filters, on going costs were 1/5th of recirculating air con. Since a hot summer day is seldom above 25-30 C nor below about 10 C in winter in my area this was acceptable solution. Bringing in freezing air or very hot dry external air would require turning back on a heat pump air con system.
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Figure out the cost of down time (parts, lost money, etc), VS the cost of properly cooling that room. Then sell it to management as a cost saving strategy.
I've been wondering if this is practical. I remember that some people have been building houses with dirt on top and non-south facing windows. Sort of like some of the hobbit houses pictured here: http://images.google.ca/images?q=hobbit%20house&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi - perhaps too whimsical an answer here.
The living conditions in these houses tends to not require AC to cool the house even in warm climates in warm/hot seasons. I don't know if this is practical, but in theory the building should be cooler to begin with.
I have been involved with cooling some small business "server closets" and have some observations and thoughts:
1) Is 86 degrees F out of bounds ? Are you having regular hardware failure now, that you think will be fixed by running cooler ? I know of various little closets around Austin in various small businesses that are packed with 4 to 8 servers (desktops running linux) that probably sit at over 90 or even 100 a lot of the time. I try to put the servers near the floor and disperse them as much as possible to avoid hot spots. Most of the failures I deal with I attribute to crappy hardware, and they happen on the desktops sitting in people's air conditioned offices just as often as they happen on the cast-off desktops sitting in the baking hot closet.
2) Those standalone AC units that have a water pan and exhaust the hot air through a dryer hose are crap from an efficiency point of view. Even if the hot air is exhausted out of the building instead of just loading the central AC, outside air will then be pulled into the building. Also, the water (as in most central AC units) is thrown out. These should be regarded as emergency use only, hot spots are really better taken care of my moving servers or even a wal-mart box fan blowing on them.
3) I believe (I plan to do actually tests with a kill-a-watt meter and thermometer) that the cheap, small window or wall unti airconditioners cool the most per watt. This is because there is no air exchange to the outside, and the condensate is allowed to run outside and then spattered over the condenser coil and re-evaporated. Even central AC units usually don't do that because the inside and outside coils are too far apart.
4) If you are marginally too hot -- which sounds like your situation -- you can probably best get what you need by cutting power consumption. Focus on the oldest servers first, and see if there are any disk servers that no longer used, backup servers that can be turned only when backups are happening, old hardware that has services that can moved to existing machines or virtualized onto existing machines, etc. There are some very low power boards out there now, that are probably faster than your oldest hardware. Look up that under-voltaged K8 writeup on Tom's hardware. You may find you have a bigger budget if you are speeding up the servers as well as lowering the temperature.
Also, I have chopped power consumption in some places by using laptops with a broken screen as a "server" for light tasks, such as a little used web site or a CVS server. Remember to keep on top of your backup situation when using possibly flaky hardware like that.
Good luck.
The hot air is expelled from the server cabinets, into the hot air ductwork, and out of the building.
Don't blow equipment heated air into the air-conditioned facility.
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You have a room full of computers and you can afford $600?? Something is wrong.
Is the room full of cheap desktop PCs? if that is the case then your problem is that you yu are using to much power. Replace and consolidate the servers
Back to the "can't afford $600 problem: have you figured out what it will cost per month to run your $600 AC unit? I'm thinking that you can burn up $600 of power in 90 days. If you were to replace those servers you'd save a bundle. Look into something like one of Sun's "cool threads" servers. Typically one of these can replace a rack of PCs It's a very low power 16 core machine.
In the mean time it ooks like you've found your low cost solution, only that you are not only paying to much for power now but the $600 AC unit will double your power bill. Best to cut power usage with low power servers. Every wat that the server burns takes more than one wat to cool with an AC unit.
Direct the output of your cooling units directly into the intakes of the servers, and exhaust the hot air coming out the back of them out of the server room, rather than letting it recirculate within the server room.
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Having worked in the sheet metal industry for several years, I can tell you that this is not something for the layman to 'research and implement'. You need professional advice my friend. You need someone to analyze the heat generated, floor area, and possible CFM output of a new, or additional a/c unit. Refrigeration tech requires many, and I mean *many* hours of training, and years of experience. In the meantime, the best thing you can do is get the air to circulate in your server room. In ours, we have a two pedestal fans that literally force the air in a circle. Since we did that, our a/c unit no longer ices up - which is an indication of the intake rad taking in too much cold air - it condenses and freezes. The intake needs WARM (circulated) air. Good luck - and hire someone who knows refrigeration. It's WELL worth your while, trust me.
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Two layers of styrofoam on top of the existing sheetrock sounds like a fire waiting to happen.
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All you have to do is swap 30 Farenheit for 30 Celsius and the problem will reconcile itself forthwith.
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Trying to save a few bucks on this is not cost effective. You will eat it up in staff time and equipment breakage in short order. You don't want your servers running with 3% free space on the drives and CPU loads at 95%, and you don't want an AC unit in the server room that you have to think about. It's 105 F outside right now, and the server room is nice and cool. Your $600 plus labor is a cheap solution. Expect to pay about $3,000.00 to do it right.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
if you have a problem with getting $600 together you are not running a datacenter. We ended up spending between 10 and 20k on a bunch of Mr. Slim units and have been happy.
You can try and be cheap but when you are talking computing you have to have at least 1k to spend on a problem at any point in time. if you can't, get a fruit stand and do that.
Are you serious? Can't beleive this made slashdot.
It's not the size of your stack that matters, it's how you push and pop
if it's not possible to install enough exhaust fans to get the hot air outside or into the office area where the building aircond can deal with the heat then you are going to need an airconditoner and a good way to drain water away from the dehumidfying process.
With out knowing anything about your environment i go by a simple rule, for every watt of power you need about a watt of cooling.
check the power supply's on each device, server, router switch, ups etc etc and count up the watts, you can use Amps just find and online calclulater to convert. This will tell you the power of the system need to cool, split air cond used for a home will do about 2KW (kilowatts) a fully ducted system used in a house will do about 20kw. I am using house system for rough comparison only.
so now you have an idea of heat output, the 2 options I would use is either 2 cheap aircond units with each one capable of meeting the KW requirement, that way if one dies the other will keep everyting going and you can have cheap maintenance, or one good quality systen with high level of maintenance with extracter fans for back up. don't forget the extracted hot air and moisture has to go somewhere!
one thing to keep in mind, using the power supply info assumes running all systems at 100% untilisation, which unlikely but does give you worst case scenario, so if you know none of your server go over 50% cpu, for example, you reduce your required kw of cooling by about 25%.
i know there are proper formulas to calcuate exact KW/BTU/AMPS/WATTS etc etc, but when I am just trying to figure the best stragety the "it takes a Watt to cool a Watt" is a quick way to estimate what its going to take and draft up a plan.
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You should be asking, what's more cost effective: putting in an aircon unit for the server room, or replacing the equipment that is going to fail because your input air temp is 30C? Not to mention, when it does fail, it might take your last few hours/days data with it.
Seriously.
A couple thousand dollars should be enough to cover an air conditioner for a small business server room(which I assume you are since you're sweating $600).
Might want to consider consolidating servers as well. Look at the system CPU and memory utilization -- I bet you can consolidate a couple of machines into one box. This will reduce the heat being pumped into the room.
of these comments are, "You are asking the wrong questions, and approaching the problem from entirely the wrong perspective"
Good-bye
Find a good dedicated server provider (i.e. Softlayer, Liquid Web) or a colocation facility. You would have an much easier time controlling costs, and would have time to get some real work done.
No data, no cry
Just hit the halon dump switch when you need to cool the room. Makes a hell of a noise, but cools the place down pretty nicely.
That's what I did at my last job, anyway. And the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that...
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I'm not an air conditioning expert, but is it really necessary to have it for the most part of the year? Why keep datacenters so cold? Most processors are rated for over 65 degrees celsius of operating temperature, most hard drives are rated at 55 degrees celsius or more. Wouldn't it be wise to design specifically for higher operating temperatures, and simply pump the air from the outside and release it through a giant chimney on the roof?
Take Apple iMac as an example of good thermal design. I took it apart and made some measurements and what I've discovered is that they won't even begin to cool the hard drive until it reaches 50 degrees celsius or so. I suspect it's even higher than that for the processor.
Compare this to a PCs geeks build by themselves - oversized power supply, biggest ass heatsink they can find so that the processor would run at room temperature. News flash folks, the processor can tolerate a lot more than room temperature without any adverse effects on performance or reliability. In fact, some mobile Intel processors can boil water and still work fine. Hard drives don't need room temperature either. In hardware world, if the manufacturer says the part works at 55 degrees, it fucking better work at 55 degrees, or someone will sue their ass. As the temperature increases, too, the thermal gradient gets steeper, so much smaller heatsinks are needed to transfer the heat away.
I do understand that it would be somewhat uncomfortable if data centers operated at 40 degrees celsius air temperature, but that could be solved with individual air conditioner jackets for the personnel or something.
It wouldn't hurt if hard drive manufacturers worked in the direction of raising their products' operating temperature, too.
It cost us about $2500 for a refurbished 1.5 ton recirc unit in the ceiling adjacent to our 60 sqft server room (not above it). I had done some calculations to determine that it should be enough cooling to handle 3.5 racks of our 1U whiteboxes running a full tilt. You'd want to put it adjacent because they are full of water and past experiences of server-waterfalls have taught me not to have servers under AC units. :)
However, stop now. Don't do that. What we learned is that to do it right, you need a lot more than just some AC units. You need reliable power, internet, chillers, maintenance staff and building management. You need to be able to get an AC contractor that will be able to be on-call and respond to you within a few hours, even in the middle of the night or on the weekend. When it freezes up (they do it from time to time) and stops heating you have a situation to deal with and must implement emergency cooling measures until they arrive. Always a fun day. And that power and AC in an older (80's era) office building are not designed for mission critical support of high density servers. Room would get hot almost every weekend as the building owners conserved AC by turning off the chillers. Maintenance staff and building owners had no concepts of how to deal with our 'internet company' needs. Don't forget worrying about physical security too, don't want a rogue employee or maintenance staff getting into the server room and doing god knows what (plugging a vacuum/Flavia/heater into the wrong power outlet and blowing the circuit).
So we moved it all to a cage at a local datacenter and haven't looked back. Much better situation and a lot cheaper & easier.
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I have an example of what not too do.
Don't just go buy a standard window air conditioner unit, cut a whole in the wall, mount it, and turn it on full blast. Also be sure not to mount it directly over your main UPS. An ISP I worked for in the past did just this.
Window air conditioners are not designed for a 100% duty cycle. Over time, condensation built up on the inner coils, and FROZE into ice. At some point the air conditioner recognized that it needed to defrost itself, and shut off. The ice melted, forming water that dripped straight down onto our UPS, shorting it out, and taking down our core router, web, DNS, and email servers. (Yes, it was a small ISP, we had one of each.)
Yes, but it's a good rule of thumb that if the language has evolved at the hands of a business consultant, they're just trying to make an ordinary, everyday job description sound sexy and exciting through deliberate obfuscation and complication of syntax. "I've been tasked with getting a tiger team to think outside the box vis-a-vis their normal operational paradigm with regards to proactively seeking out new-media revenue generation through forward-thinking distribution channels" sounds a lot sexier to the average suit than "We need more money. What ideas do you internet nerds have?"
first, calculate your dissipation - get a power meter and measure the draw of your hardware at the wall. 1 kW = 3412 BTU; 1 ton = 12000 BTU; 1 ton = 3.517 kW. if your AC isn't big enough for your dissipation, no amount of sheet metal will help.
if you have enough cooling capacity, then your problem is that you're not segregating your hot and cold air properly. all commodity servers are designed for hot/cold aisles - that is, the front of the rack needs to be pure cold air supply from the chillers. hot air needs to be kept from reaching the front-of-rack. blanking panels avoid wasting cold air by flowing through the rack.
Perhaps one could install water cooling on the server(s) but instead of having it lead to a radiator in the case have it hang out of the window.
Maybe you could even just use water from the tap and send it back down the drain if you are unmetered.
All the solutions thus far indicate "staying the course". Just stop being a datacenter - whatever you are running can easily be hosted somewhere else - stop worrying about it, and move your code somewhere else - there are PLENTY of people that will host you. Otherwise you are playing with numbers that are really not worthy of being talked about.
Assuming you have a computer "room" (enclosed space)....
Supplies (plus tools):
Duct tape (you have it somewhere in your desk)
Some 2x4 wood (get it from a dumpster or construction site)
New circuit breaker (take it from another unused circuit)
Cheap 25000 BTU window AC unit ($600)
1) Convert your 20A circuit from 120V to 240V, or move to Europe, or get a smaller AC unit.
2) Cut a hole in you computer room to the outside. This could be a hole to the real outdoors or just into another room. You don't care because the computers are all you need to deal with for this project. If this hole happens to be into another room it will still work just fine as it will move heat from the inside of your computer room to the outside (into your office or where ever).
3) Use the 2x4 wood to build a support for the window AC unit in your new hole. You don't want it falling out, then you'll just have a hole in the wall (another cheap cooling idea).
4) Install the cheap window AC unit into the hole and seal with the duct tape. Plug it into the outlet and turn it on.
5) Profit!...I mean, you're done. If you need redundancy then repeat the procedure for a second unit (assuming you have the power, or a long extension cord).
This is not a joke...I have seen this setup in a few places (eg. basement computer room), it's a crude setup but the computer room is cool.
Note, if the AC unit happens to be next to your office cubicle then you might want to move first. Don't forget to put a large trash can under the back of the AC unit as it will drip condensate all day. Also in the winter, please don't walk on a the rug in your computer room as you will build up a big static charge because your humidity (RH) will be about 0-5%.
For about $600 you can get a 25000 BTU window unit. With that you can cool about 7KW of computers. If you only have 120V then you can get a 15000 BTU unit for about $400 and cool about 4KW of computers. Don't forget to include the heat from your UPS (assuming you have one).
If you need better humidity control, put a big bucket of water in the room for the winter, and add a space heater for the summer (for reheat, you run both AC and heat).
Now if you made a mistake in your post and have a $6000 budget then you can get a ductless split system and have it installed (unless you are in a real office building and can't get outside access).
[...] and would not have tolerance for both AC units
Yeah, Anonymous Cowards get on my nerves, too.
Seriously now, in my experience portable air conditioning is a joke (noisy, inefficient, and they still need an exhaust duct for the hot air, of course). But I doubt you'll find any satisfactory solution for less than $600, unless you plan to build the AC unit yourself.
About a year ago we moved to a new building. The room designated for server room had no air-con so we were open to a number of options to keep it cool during Australian summers (and winters!). The room is fairly small - it will fit around two to three racks maximum. Currently we have one fully populated rack of equipment (mostly 1U servers).
We decided to try exhausting the air first (into the ceiling cavity) as the external air was reasonably cool. This actually worked pretty well. The room average temperature was between 24c-26c, and remained fairly constant. Worst case was 31c. Interestingly the room did not go above 35c when the fans were off for long periods of time, as it appeared that convention drew the heat out the exhaust fans. For the expected life of our equipment this temperature range was reasonable and surprisingly was much better than the previous 2x18Kwh cooling setup (floor was 18c, ceiling was 35c), however one thing we noticed is that there was significant turbulence in the room from the server fans and that it was mixing the hot and cold air around.
It also became clear that to keep the room around 24c with more servers going in was going to be a challenge, and that during winter (when the external air is typically heated), we would see a rise in the external air temperature.
As our winter approached, we decided to install a 8KWh split unit. It works really well, we now maintain the room at a constant 22c and could easily handle cooler temperatures if we desired. The exhaust fans are still in place and running. Interestingly they work well at removing the hot air so that we are not spending extra energy cooling it.
So, exhaust of hot air works for us in keeping the cooling costs down, and had the added bonus of avoiding very high temperatures when air-cons failed.
share space with someone who can afford AC. Virtualize services to reduce machines.
Dump a few gallons of water on your servers.
Oh, you wanted the servers to survive? That'll be $10000 per server.
"We are Microsoft. You shall be assimilated. Competition is futile."
If you buy a small portable units used, you can find them in your budget. As for the water, a small pump attached to tubing can be used to pump out the sump on the device. Even new ones can be had at 10K BTU for much less than $600.
Maxwells' Demon.
When that fails, call your friendly neighborhood AC salesman and tell him the data center has some problems.
You can spend money now or spend money right now.
There is NO solution to make up for unplanned growth (except to end it.)
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You might get better mileage out of improving airflow through your rack rather than beefing up your HVAC. You want to focus on removing heat rather than directing cool air into your racks.
Look at racks (such as Chatsworth CPI) that have options for heat ducts that evacuate hot air from hot spots (it typically means a vented front door and a solid rear door, and yes, you have to dress your cables so you can actually close them!). You could exhaust the hot air elsewhere outside, as long as you have a clean filtered intake. But even if you just return the hot air to the HVAC intake, the existing AC should operate more efficiently.
Anyway this should be much more cost effective than doing a raised floor with AC vents, trying to force the cool air to rise.
then, unless you live in florida or the tropics, those portable jobs aren't that much of a pain. I managed to get one the size of a minifridge after a real AC unit lost out to a new p520. I've only 1 full rack, so I don't really need that much, but I didn't want the hardware taking up my limited space and I imagine it won't last for more than a few years with a 90%+ duty cycle in the summer.
It came with a built-in water tank, maybe 2 liters or so, and I have to empty it about once a week. If it had been more frequently than that, I could've just ran the outflow hose to a 10 gallon bucket or something.
BTW, what kind of server room are you in that doesn't have a 20 amp socket? One where $600 is pricy I suppose...
If you effectively duct the heat pushed out by the rack units to the outside, your requirement to cool down the hot exhausted air in the room diminishes quite a lot.
Ok, not usually possible with computers, but I used to do that for racks of audio power amplifiers used in a permanent install. They drew air in from the front of the racks and blew out the back which was fanned outside, thus the room didn't require much to keep it cool.
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Don't be too sure about that. Even if the thermometer on the wall only reads 30C, you can be damn sure that there are much, much warmer areas inside rack cabinets and the like.
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You have to ask the following questions when designing a cooling system for an HVAC system for a server room. The conditions are significantly different than cooling for an office.
1. What is your total kW consumed in the room.
2. What is the cooling strategy you want to employ?
Passive cooling - use a fan to dump the heat out of the building.
Active cooling - Install an air conditioner with an external condensing unit to dump the heat outside.
Alternate cooling - Dump the heat into the rest of the building during winter in order to saving on heating costs.
Any of these options have good and bad points: expense, humidity control, thermostat control, expense of use, required backups.
3. How is your server room arranged?
Is everything just thrown in the room?
Are you running a hot isle/cold isle environment?
Do you have a raised server floor so you can pump cold air into the bottom of the racks with a ceiling return?
Do the racks have fans to draw air from front to back?
4. What is your current cooling capacity that is dedicated to that room?
The last server room I designed was 500 square feet and consumed roughly 14 kw (28 watts/sf). That is roughly 4 tons of sensible cooling. To purchase a system capable of 4 tons of sensible cooling you will need to purchase a system capable of 5-6 tons of total cooling (Skipping the lecture on Sensible vs Latent vs Total cooling). So have you have just spent $4,000 in materials. Assume your costs will double for installation. Plus another couple of grand to have an actual engineer come in and design a system that will serve your specific needs.
The question is not one of getting the heat off the chips. The heat is making its way into the air just fine. You need to get the heat out of the air (and the room) and out of the building. If your room is exceeding 30C I would assume your racks are easily running 5-10 degrees hotter. That is getting into the range where your equipment is going to start shutting down.
Now onto your problem: $600 budget. Option: Throw a patch of your choice at it. A roll-a-way unit from Wal-mart or target where you can push a heat rejection duct out of the building, for example. This is a patch, not a solution.
Assume you are going to have to pony up $10,000 (USD) to solve this problem.
Architectural plans are like computer source code with a couple of differences: You only compile once.
I have a portable unit, brand is NOMA (found in most hardware stores in Canada). Paid around 500$. What is great is there is no bucket to empty, the humidity is kinda vaporized and pushed out the heat exhaust (no dripping). It's been running steady at "Low Speed" for the last 4 months or so, and it keeps a 250 sq/f room with two full racks and two huge monitors around 23 Celsius. I simply taped the exhaust to the existing air duct (yeah, using duct tape on duct!), there is no water drip.
I like this model because the room is cool and there is no humidity. It is portable but it's big, like those mini-fridge in hotel rooms.
lucm, indeed.
I once had the Air Conditioner go out.
In phoenix.
In July.
I took a turkey out of the freezer and stuck it in front of a massive fan. I also took a bunch of empty beet bottles from around the house and filled them with cold water.
It didn't really work, but it was really funny!
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If $600 - $1000 is too large of a budget for your project, then you should just shut your server room down, as you aren't making enough money from having a server room.
Seriously, relocate your servers to colocated hosting, or pay up for the requisite climate controls. Beyond that...fuck off.
Someone else said it nicer in another post.
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Well, I'm about to embark on a course where I learn how to exactly model the airflow in server rooms. I thought this would be usefull for cases like yours, to be able to evaluate possible alternative setups and improvements to the configuration of your racks, ventilation ducts and airco's. This in turn is part of my switch to green IT consultancy. I still need a demo case for the course, so if this is interesting let me know. Cheers, and don't sweat it ;-)
He already balked at $600 folks. His problem isn't finding the right cooling solution, it's getting the proper funding and support from management for what he needs to properly cool the equipment.
People in his org aren't having the right conversations. They're not willing to spend $600 to save multiple thousands in fried gear?
at0mic26 you need to have the proper conversation with your higher ups.
True, but it's not a dedicated 20A socket. It's a 20A LINE with several 20A sockets on it. Large capacity (over 9k BTU) A/C "window units" use significant power, to the point they pretty much need to be on their own circuit.
I once made a cooling system for a small server room that used tap water. I don't want to recommend this though, because running significant amounts of water through a server room is generally a bad idea :)
I got some aluminium sheet bent to a duct shape, so that it ran from about 20 cm from the ceiling to about 50 cm above the floor. Inside the duct i placed several of the larger type radiators that are used when cooling overclocked computers with water. At the end of the duct I placed 3 20mm fans that would pull air through from the ceiling down through the radiators and out at the bottom. A thermostat stopped the fans and waterflow (magnetic valve) when the temperature was low enough. Radiators were connected in serial, so that the coolest water was closest to the fans.
This server room was inside an industrial area where water was abundant and free of charge, so water came right from the pipes, ran through the radiators in the duct, and then right down the drain after cooling the air.
CONS: Not a very efficient setup, requires some DIY work, and you risk flooding your server room.
PROS: In this case it was cheap, and we had no accidents ;)
Its your COMMS ROOM with hundreds of thousands of (your choice of currency unit) located there.
Plus the business inconvenience of having the equipment fail and you having to resolve that / invoke your BC/DR program.
Should you really be mucking around trying to save money on the Aircon / Drainage?
Get hold of a reputable company who knows about computer room air-con, get them to give you some cost scaled options and put those on the table alongside the cost of the business being down for a week.
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...the servers died
Seriously - if you're the IT-guy (administrator or whatever) why is it your task? Is it also your task to run new power lines and add in new fuse boxes to keep the servers running?
Now, if you're the building supervisor then it's an entirely different thing, but other than that, how is it your task?
If I'm the guy that does most of the driving in the company cars (salesman or whatever), is it my task to arrange for a new parking structure, just because the old one is now flooded? No.
Call up five or ten contractors that deal in these sorts of things and have them give you an offer (maybe including a minimum need and a future need offer). Give those offers to your boss or the bean counters and let him/them decide what to buy. Shouldn't take more than an hours work one day (finding and calling contractors) and then something like 10 to 20 minutes per contractor to show them around.
Delegate, delegate, delegate!
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
The tuning of the algo is not all that easy, but it divided the electricity bill by 3 overnight !
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It got fixed pretty quickly after that.
You might also point out that $600 saved on aircon will probably equal $1200 or much more in early component failure and downtime. When it's 30 in the server room, it's much hotter inside the server.
There is no music - home taping killed it.
If your servers are operating at more than 25C on a regular basis then chances are you are seeing high rates of disk drive failure and other component based failures. I can't imagine the downtime, cost of replacement parts and effort to fix would be cheaper than spending the $600.
We had an AC outage for just 1/2 an hour on about 12 racks. Over the nexct 3 months lots of random disk failures cropped up in that area.
Electricity is expensive, therefore simply turning the electricity into heat and dumping it into the atmosphere is also expensive.
=> Do something else with it.
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Tell management that all employees must get extra ice in their beverages at lunch and bring it back to go into a bucket in the machine room.
'Cause that's the absurd level of penny-pinching you're looking at here.
"It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
but we ran 3 mitsubishi mr slim air conditioners ceiling mount.
Good people go to bed earlier.
In terms of cooling, the most cost-effective thing is the proverbial Big Fat Heat Sink, and the second-most cost-effective is fans. Actual air conditioning is not a cheap thing, especially when the room has a bunch of heat-generating devices (like, e.g., servers) in it.
So the question becomes: where is this building located, and what does the ambient outdoor temperature run to?
Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
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One major consideration that I didn't see addressed anywhere is the hot air return. You won't get very far just pumping air into the room if there's not an efficient way to get the hot air out. Major mistake that is often made. AC is a closed loop system. Its removing heat from the air it sucks into its return ducting. If the really hot air you're worried about isn't headed into its return ducting you'll get some minor benefit from it, but you'll do FAR better to direct the heated air TO the air conditioner.
Just my 2 cents as a mechanical engineer.
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If you think your building AC is up to the load over all, have you considered better ventilation from the ambient air outside the room. Faster turn over of air can go a long way in cooling. Though it's doubtful you'll be able to high turnover of ambient office space air to bring your server room down to 20C, I'll bet you can make a dent in the current 30+C level. This might even be possible without making your co-workers too uncomfortable by maknig sure that the exhaust air is discharged into the return air plenum, which is usually the space above the drop ceiling.
All that fan power and ventilation might however increase the noise level near the server room.
If you're going to go the cheap route without having someone come onsite and consulting, I'd get a couple of the window mounted air conditioners that go for between $100 and $200 and a couple of dehumidifiers (which you'd have to empty regularly or hook up to a drain).
Skiffy is Spiffy, but Ort is tort.
He's at work. He wasn't asked, he was told. People for some reason like to be tasked to do things not told, it makes them feel special. I do agree, it's an annoying word that was made up to make people feel more important than they really are. People need to get over themselves and just dance monkey dance.
You're looking at about $1500 to add a portable AC to a room. That's about right. I'm guessing if you need supplemental air conditioning, you have around $100,000 worth of gear sitting in said room. Do you really want to cheap out on this? If the cheaped-out AC (if you're not sacrificing amount of cooling, you're sacrificing reliability) fails and burns up your gear, was the savings really worth it?
If this seems high to you; you can often add a 1-ton HVAC for about $5000-$8000 providing you have space on the breaker panels. That's a much better permanent solution.
This is one of the (many) reasons that people often end up colocating mission-critical gear. It costs you more to build your own server room than host it in a tier 4 datacenter for 3 years.
for a company that had a very small server room (like 5 machines). It was basically a closet with a slim style air conditioner in it. It kept the room quite cool. It was similar to a Mr. Slim. I have a hunch it will cost more than $800 though.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
Well, I would say that you are brining out what I can only call a correllary to what my HS physics teacher once said (though he probably stole it from elsewhere), "Its a damned fool who can only think of one way to spell a word".
Likewise, I don't see how this is a problem at all. Certainly you don't seem to work in the sort of buisness culture where this usage evolved. However, I find it perfectly clear, and, aside from offending your sense of grammatical aesthetics; I see no issue with it.
"I am currently tasked" it conveys some important information:
A) This isn't his personal machine room
B) He is probably not the finale decision maker
This, of course, also means that he doesn't define the requirements or budgets.
This terminology comes out of what I might call "project culture". When people meet to discuss project status, we tend to talk of "deliverables", "tasks" etc.
So its natural for giving someone a task to become "tasking them".
Verbing happens all the time, and it only weirds language until you get used to it. I am sorry. Change happens.
-Steve
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
and evolution happens regardless of whether you deem it to be an improvement or not. Actually, I hear "tasked" used all the time in everyday speech.
Though you only really hear it in places and situations where you have several people working together and regularly meeting to determine what needs to be done AND you have individuals with the authority to assign tasks.
Hence using "task" as a verb becomes rather commonplace.
-Steve
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
I highly recommend against portable "evaporative" air conditioners that claim they don't need drainage. They're lying.
It's more likely that there's something faulty in your installation, or some strange circumstance that's making them not work properly.
We have a very small server room (really a large closet), and only about seven machines plus a couple of 3000VA UPS's in the room. We've been cooling it for four years now with a Haier portable A/C unit (yes, a cheap Chinese unit bought from Walmart.com) which evaporates the condensate and exhausts it via a short duct through the wall into the next room.
There have been zero problems so far, and as a side benefit our lunch room stays nice and warm in winter. I have replaced the unit once, after three years of continuous operation just as a preventative measure (there was nothing wrong with it and it's still working at my in-laws' house). They cost under $300. We have to wash out the air filters about twice a year, otherwise the reduced airflow will make the evaporator freeze up solid, but that's the only maintenance it requires, and that's just a quick rinse of the filters in a sink.
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Just had to add a comment to this one - which is at a tangent to the general discussion so I apologise.
You weren't outsourced because you annoyed your bosses by stacking boxes in the corridor. The writing was very clearly on the wall from the moment you were moved to a building that had no provision for your service.
Far from neglecting to account for your needs, you were scratched out of the grand plan months before you knew anything about it. It does, after all, take a little while to arrange an outsourcing deal. I should know.
Seen in this light, had you wanted to hold on to some sort of job you were probably best off working twice as hard following the move. Rather than stacking oldware in the hallways.
This sounds very critical of you and I'm sorry, it's not supposed to come over that way. After 7 years it must be very difficult to realise that your employer could literally not care any less about you. But at least you've learned that lesson now so you're ahead.
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I can't believe the number of replies that tell this guy he's out of his mind asking this question with a $600 figure in it. Not every IT shop in the world is a large shop. Heck, there are loads of places that don't even have a clue what they've invested in IT, since they cobbled it together over a period of years.
I just joined a midsized manufacturing firm because they want me to establish an IT department. They realized that they needed someone to deal with the technology who knows how to look at it long-term, but that doesn't mean that they can fund everything that needs to be done right away. If I were this guy (and I am, in some ways--see below), I would do whatever you can right now for $600, and let management know that it is only a bandaid. They need to be made to understand that not funding a proper solution is likely to cost them big dollars in gear replacement and downtime. Let them know how long it will take to purchase and deploy replacement gear, and ask them to estimate how much money they will lose due to that downtime. What they would lose will likely be far more than you will need for any solution.
The place where I'm working doesn't have a dedicated server room. The twin racks are standing in the corner of a long high-wall office space that designed to house two employees. It's only indirectly air conditioned, and the gear throws off so much heat that you can feel it from three feet away. The fan noise is so loud that the office staff tend to close the door to the room (cutting off the air flow). They have the rack fans venting into the attic, but the attic has no outside vents (tin roof, no openings, because they had too many problems with leaks in the past), so the attic can only take on so much vented air. Much of it escapes back into the room, since the vent hood does not seal on top of the rack.
There are three 1U PowerEdge servers, a 48-port switch that is nearly maxed out, an 24 port switch for the servers, home runs, and a few key workstations, and a legacy switch of unknown use (it predates the guys who kept the network running before I got there, and nothing is labeled). There are also two mid-tower servers, two LCD displays (thankfully, no CRTs!), a KVM, and the requisite UPS units. They didn't mount all of the gear properly, so the three switches are basically stacked on the bottom shelf of one rack, and all of the 1U servers are right on top of each other, too. Segments of the network have gone down numerous times since I started, and most instances appear tied to heat.
No brainer, you say. Just have them build a proper enclosure, you say. I've been working that angle for three months. I have one officer who wants all the servers in the attic (where the ambient temperaturs is already around 35C/95F) where they have the telelcomm gear and our firewall (they warned me that the voicemail system needs to be rebooted periodically, especially on hot, sunny days). I have another officer who wants to relocate the whole lot into non-heated and non-cooled area of the building that shows signs of significant rodent traffic. I'm sure the servers would be just the kinds of vacation spot the mice would love. Their cash flows are significant, and they're even building a new shop and office addition, but they didn't plan for any IT expense in the process. I tried to get a single high-wall office in the new office space, but no dice.
Fortunately, my directly up-line has been willing to listen and is starting to understand how critical this issue is. We have an ERP program installed, and when the network goes down almost nothing can get done (apart from what was already in the pipeline). He's starting to realize that, though they are paying me good money, I'm losing most of my time to issues that would be non-issues if they front some money now. This thread came at a perfect time for me, since I'm stil trying to figure out what type of cooling system to pitch as part of my current proposal--one that is getting some traction--to build me a double
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Cost Effective.. As in, how much will the cost be if your server hardware takes a dump, and you have to put all new hardware in, restore from backup, and be losing money during the down time?
I work for a newspaper, one of the absolutely skinflintiest, most penny-pinching companies I've seen in my life. When they built the new building about 5 years ago, I asked them to include climate control for the server room. "We'll deal with that next year, it's not in the budget this year." was their reply. So, the server room, which at the time only had two rack-mounted servers and a Unix box inside, got up to about 80F routinely. I begged, pleaded, and pestered them until they actually did something. Chopped a hole in the wall, and stuck in an old window-mount, venting to the inside of the inserting/packaging/warehouse area. This was able to get the temperature down to about 70F, and hold it there. With the addition of two more servers, though, the temp got up to about 78-80F. And, this was in the winter. As soon as spring came around, the tempereatures started to climb, up to about 85-90F, and with the upcoming addition of four to six more servers, it was way too hot.
We took the plunge, and I was able to actually get them to install, as a Capital project, rather than regular expenses, a Mitsubishi Mr. Slim remote unit. Wall-mounted, with external condenser, etc...
This did require the running of a 220V circuit, but the cost was just under USD$10,000.00. Considering that there are nine servers in there, with a few more on the way, and each one costs about 5 grand, plus some software, and plus the downtime and such, it was VERY much worth the cost, especially since we'll be able to add more servers in the future and still have plenty of growth room. Plus, the servers and hard drives should last longer too, since their lifespan won't be affected by high temperatures. I'm able to keep it at about 63F right now, measured on the wall farthest away from the A/C unit, behind the servers. Just walking back there, you can feel a massive amount of heat being thrown off.
Seriously, don't cheap out on cooling your hardware. In the long run, you will regret it if you do.
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What if you suddenly stop being able to remove the hot air? Your servers will be cooked inside their airtight racks.
So use multiple redundant exhaust fans.
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I setup a watercooled system for a small business once.
We created a custom setup for an HP Rack Cabinet using 3" PVC with 3/4" leads off off into each server, then 3/4" leads back out to another 3" PVC, which ran to a 30 gallon resivour before running outside to a set of 3 heat exchangers we were able to get for cheap via surplus. Each heat exchanger had 3/4" piping and a seperate pump and fan assembly. (about the size of a house heat pump exchanger.)
We programmed a PIC to monitor water temps and switch on the heat exchanger pumps and fans depending on load, with a minimum of one running all the time.
During the summer all 3 would run at peak, and during the winter only one would be on.
In VA the summer temps never peak above 95'F. I think the highest they have ever recorded on the hot-side temp sensor was 100'F (and 5'F rise over ambient for a whole server rack is not bad).
It was a lot of fun to build, but for an enterprise setup, a raised floor datacenter with proper Leibert cooling systems is the way to go. I would say more than two racks and your talking at the very least an industrial AC system w/ humidity controls (too dry == bad).
I'm not sure about the AC, but folks at Planetmind run their servers on solar power. Perhaps this could free up some of your funds to put toward AC. http://www.planetmind.net/
We had a similar problem. In the long term you need to look at efficiency vs. installation cost.
Running one (or two) large units constantly just for a server room is in the long term quite expensive depending on where you live and how much the cost of electricity goes up. Unless you are in a facility that is staffed 24/7 (and I suspect you are not) there is no reason to do this.
For between $1800 and $3400 you can have a "mini split" system installed which will cool only one room, on its own thermostat and be completely self contained. It can be installed with a small pump to dump moisture out close to the external unit. With a cooling (compressor on) current of 9-10 amps, and 12000Btu of cooling, we are able to keep our (admittedly small) server room at around 65F, which gives more than enough response time for a unit malfunction before the temperature reaches critical levels.
While not the best solution we used a standard window mount unit that you would find in your home.
We had some serious reconstruction work being done to out server room and during that our regular AC unit was taken offline so as not to clog it up with Construction dust. The unit mounted in a hole in the wall with the back end facing out into the Cube farm. While we as the tech group had to deal with the added heat from the AC unit in our office area, the Server Room stayed nice and cold. As for any water that was collected, that was resolved with two 5-gallon buckets. One that was empty and one that the water drained into. In an average 8-hour shift there was only about a quart of water in the bucket. Dumping the bucket each morning wasn't a problem since it was a short walk to the breakroom sink. The extra bucket simply took its place under the drain while you dumped the other.
This might be a quick fix for you, but then you also then have to deal with the security of having the wall unit. Since our cube farm was an internal office space accessed by key-card, the only folks that would have ready access would be the ones that worked on the boxen in the first place. So for us, the security issue was very small.
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We had a similar problem... the computer room is in the middle of our 6-room 1200 sq ft office, no windows, one ac duct on with the rest of the office. That rooms 8.5' by 12' (about 100 sq ft) with 9.5' ceilings. We now have 15 servers (mostly mid-range pc's but a few 8-core xeon boxes) running full time in there.
The solution came in several parts... first was to move any critical/primary stuff to our offsite servers and use the in-house boxes for backup and local-only stuff. We already had a cab at internap with some spare room.
Next we got a couple ceiling panels (its a false ceiling like in most office bldgs) that have a plastic grid for airflow instead of the usual cardboard foamy stuff.
We got rid of the nice locked, enclosed cabinets and got breadracks to increase airflow, and put two cheapy ($15) home depot oscillating fans in there.
If things get warm in the summer (i.e. today) we leave the door open for a bit and it cools down quickly. We're considering adding an exhaust fan/vent in the wall or ceiling, but since there's no exterior wall it's a pain, plus we'd have to deal with the landlord.
We probably only spent $100 and a day of labor, and it's "good enough."
Your goal is not to pump more cold air into the room, your goal is to remove the heat. More than one computer room has sized on the simple expedient of cutting a hole in a ceiling tile and lying a box fan on it, blowing up.
Make a good hot-air removal system and your existing cooling should work fine. Whatever system you use will have a point of failure.
Blowing out warm air doen't create a vaccuum. If the rest of the building is warm, new warm air flows in. If the rest of the building is cool, well cool air flows in.
The big problem: The effect of these a/c units are nearly equal to a ventilator. That's why those split a/c are the way to go. These transport the heat via some kind of liquid but do not move air to the outside.
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Also, don't panic. Monitor your disk temperature but don't assume they will fail more often at 30C. Based on LOTS of data, Google published a paper that shows that disk temperature has to be right up to the rated max temp before any extra chance of failure appears.