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Slashdot's Disagree Mail
Traditionally the Slashdot community has had a harsh view of Microsoft, its software, and especially its management. All the more reason for us to become pawns in the evil Windows army, and it would have worked if it wasn't for this guy and his irrefutable statistics.
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 ******* wrote:
"I can't understand how you managed to convince so many *smart* people that you support the open source and free software movement. It couldn't be more obvious that you sold out to Microsoft in 2004. I've kept careful records of your stories for many years and I've got the evidence. Pre-2004 showed a negative Microsoft story rate of 87% and a positive Microsoft story rate of 13%. From 2004 until today the negative story rate has crashed to a mere 62% while the positive story rate has climbed to 38%. Am I to believe that a 25% increase in positive stories is not significant. When i comment on this trend I get marked as a troll, nice. I suppose that is a coincidence to. Good work I'm sure the current political administartion will own you soon. I used to enjoy your message before it became Bill and Bush's."
With the failing health of Steve Jobs, we thought it would be the perfect time to get firmly entrenched into the Apple hierarchy. It's a shame that our rabid love for Apple and all its products made our actions so transparent.
On Fri, 2 Feb ******* wrote:
"Apple sure does pay good don't they! Is there anyone not on the Apple payroll at Slashdot? If you're going to become an Apple mouthpiece you might want to try and hide it better! How much does a frontpage Slashdot story cost anyway? I hope it's a lot. If you're going to become Apple whores you might as well get paid well. Just know that I know it's rotten to the core!"
I have to give him credit for the, "rotten to the core" Apple thing. Usually the rants I get aren't so poetic. Most of the time they are rambling and confused, like this.
On Wed, 23 Apr ******** wrote"
"I noticed today that many Slashdot stories are listed on Google. I thought you were supposed to be a neutral internet party? I can't believe what you have as "news" if you are in cahoots with the "do no evil" gang. Almost everything I used to believe in is on Google now I was hoping that Slashdot would be strong enough to resist the Google money pool but I guess I was naive. Google is going to slowly absorb everything is that ok with you? it doesn't seem so bad when your playing volleyball or bringing your cat to work but it is. A cat is no trade for integrity. Look back at what you used to stand for and not greed or I will have to find a news source that hasn't been swallowed by Google."
Yeah, this disagree mail segment thing has run it's course.
Kill it.
white-on-green and mis-used apostrophes.
It's obvious that anyone that doesn't have a robots.txt with Disallow: / is on Google's pay roll!
Mod me up, mod me down, do your worst you modding clown.
Dear slashdot,
No one reads idle, yet it is on the front page as large a Dewar's ad.
Sincerely,
Not First Post
Atlas Shrugged : Thematic Story
I have to believe that people are now writing intentionally schizophrenic emails in the hopes to appear in this section, and as such still retain their cats.
I was in the Google money pool for a few years. Getting in is easy, as long as you can pass 4 hellish interviews and wait 6 months for HR to respond.
Having said that, what you really need is a time machine. Go back to August 2004 and get hired. Even if you get a meager grant back then, you'll make out pretty well. Getting hired now, well, they aren't as forthcoming with the stock as they once were, and the base pay is pretty terrible. Free food, though.
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
Being by 2004, I think Windows XP SP2 came out and solved lot of the origional problems with XP. As well most modern computers can run XP smoothly and easilly. As well XP solved a lot of the problems that 95, 98 and ME had. Windows 2000 was still consiered Pro-Grade so not a lot of people used it. But XP being the first consumer focused using the NT Kernel. Also many of the virus and such started to clear up. Code Red and such... So yea there are less MS Bashing as they did fix a lot of the major problems they had.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You are working for the LHC too arent you.. I knew it the world IS going to end!!!!!!
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Avarice is easy, just sell your soul to Balmer
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself." Mark Twain
Judging from the comments that most Idle stories bring these days, I think I must be about the only one to find these segments worthy of at least a chuckle. Of course they're mostly groaners, but at least I know what I'm getting myself into when I open it :)
Don't dismiss this disagree mail thing. I'm finding it valuable actually as a sociological study. Think about it: there are people out there who actually get inflamed enough to write in and post this stuff. What kind of mind honestly works this way? To me, it's a viewpoint into a perspective way different from my own. And that is useful, because it reminds me that the world is not filled with my clones who all perceive the world the same way I do. Plus it is funny.
Here's to hot beer, cold women, and Glaswegian kisses for all.
Meow, we are!
Hate to comment twice in one article, but I have to say: Show the names of the people writing you! Maybe not their email (though that would be OK), but at least their slashdot ID, if they have one. Shit, make it a requirement that they have a slashdot account before they write in.
It'd be much more fun if there was some accountability...
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
No one makes you read these stories, if you don't like them, don't read them, that simple.
Although this batch isn't funny, some of the stories were so random that I actually did laugh (of course after my headache stopped due to the bad coloring scheme.) Post more pointless stories imo, like the guy talking about racism...
Now I really want to bring my cat to work. "Kitty no! Get out of the AS/400!"
"I will have to find a news source that hasn't been swallowed by Google".
You do that.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Here's some more disagreement: keep "idle" off the front page.
C'mon, /., is that all you got? All of these geeks on Red Bull, off their meds, raging on hormones, and this is all we get? Puhleeze. Do us all the favor and just pull this thread's plug. Now-- before you make the rest of us growl, gnash our teeth, and wail. Mod me incredulous.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
There is no shortage of comments about us selling out or running advertisements as stories.
I know, I know, because you are running advertisements as stories!
Sometimes the answers are just so, right there for me.
Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
People composing "Disagree" emails in an attempt to get them published here?
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
Why not publish the names of these folks? If they didn't write them as anonymous cowards, publish their names like every other slashdot post.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
I have long had some questions about slashdot. What is the percentage of people who post anon replies to their own posts? How many times does "I for one...Overlord" show up total and per article? Number of Apple ref on a MS thread vs Linux refs? and lasty... How many people request that Disagree emails should be ended? Has the number increased or decreased per week? I would prefer this in a chart form...maybe pie(yummm pie)
I think the reason most people bitch about the Idle articles is not due to the fact that there is an Idle section or what it's about, but rather because it kind of a let down. I can't believe that after more than 10 years of being on the cross hairs of every nutjob and bored teenager on the internet, these are the weirdest emails you've received or the strangest stories you can tell.
If you're going to take up space on the front page with this, you better make it worth the while for people who read the site.
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I AM working, and my job is in no danger of being outsourced, we do all our R&D here...
Ignorance is Bliss -- And the Opposite is True -- Genius is Madness
"A cat is no trade for integrity."
Wise words to live by, always.
kill it with fire. i didnt think it could be possible to hate CowboyNeal anymore than we all rightly should.
if some of us are coders and sysadmins, scientists and mad scientists, why do we want to read more of the same shit we get for free everyday in our inboxes without commercial advertising?
Good people go to bed earlier.
Hey, I can speak for myself thanks.
And, seems like you're jealous. You only WISH you could be Cmdr Taco.
I'm sure we'll be reading your emails here soon.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Once more, since you appear to be new here. You can set it so that Idle doesn't appear on the main page.
:D
Sadly, this means you'll have to log in... awww, no more trolling.
Julie Moult is an idiot.
Why is parent marked troll? Idle should be killed or hidden from view somehow or seriously changed.
/. could possibly be thinking. Obviously they ARENT thinking the same now as they were when they picked the slogan....
I think every Idle topic has been tagged as these: "pleasestop, humor, idleispants, makeitstop". You think that would say something as most posters give every single topic 3 tags simply begged for idle to be killed. I don't understand what
When you don't want to be caught in a conspiracy, simply make fun of the conspiracy theorists.
Keep up the good work.
As for you whiners, just ignore it. It's not like you have to read it, or it is replacing some other discussion.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
Take heed citizens! All of these "kill it" suggestions are slashdot insiders on M$, Apple and Google payrolls!!!1 Fight the good fight! I will await your response in my bomb shelter. *puts tinfoil hat back on*
I thought it was a good idea
I actually LIKE the disagree mail . . . it brightens my day while I'm dealing with technophobes who are no more coherent than the folks writing these rants.
No good deed goes unpunished. - Avon, Blake's 7
Nothing hurts my eyes more than scrolling from the white-on-green area to the back-on-white one. Idle is pain, not pants!
-- dnl
"FIRST POST" is soooo 1998. The new Slashdot meme is to post a "Kill it" comment on an Idle story.
..or can you: "I've kept careful records of your stories for many years and I've got the evidence. Pre-2004 showed a disagree mail stupidity rating of 87% and a hilarity rate of 13%. From 2004 until today the disagree mail stupidity rating has crashed to a mere 62% while the hilarity rate has climbed to 38%. Am I to believe that a 25% increase in hilarity is not significant. When i comment on this trend I get marked as a troll, nice. I suppose that is a coincidence to. Good work I'm sure the current political administartion will own you soon. I used to enjoy your message before it became Bill and Bush's."
Help! After reading the third piece, I googled myself and sure enough, Google owns me too!!
This space up for sale.
25% increase in approval of disagree mail. Clearly you are in bed with the anti-troll crowd by selling out trolls.
If there was a way to disable it like sigs or anything else here, it would be one thing.
/. is about choice and provides a pretty decent set of tools to achieve this (user submitted stories/firehose/tagging/comments/comment rating and filtering/etc).
Generally it could be argued that
So aside from the fact that disagree mail is stupid and mostly insulting to those of us who do this work (I do technical work; posting and commenting on help-desk emails seems unoriginal and asinine) this seems like a rather sharp and somewhat unexpected shift away from what it is that makes Slashdot unique.
Quack, quack.
A cat is no trade for integrity!
There is also no shortage of people who find this "disagree mail" thing to be a complete waste of time and editor resources, especially when they STILL can't seem to make the reply box width more than some horribly miniscule value. Listen to the tags, guys. Make it stop!
"So after all this, you make my case for me. To end this stalemate, you must die..."
Okay, it's official. I completely and totoally loathe the person who posts the disagree mail, and the developer who decided that filtering out "Idle" topics wouldn't actual filter this odoriferous fecal matter that someone calls a story.
Come on; if Google were going to get into the business of absorbing things, surely we'd be seeing Google Shamwow! or something along those lines.
It is foolish to believe that slashdot is in the pockets of MS or Google or Apple. Slashdot editors are above that. They equally and openly take ANYONE's money for a frontpage story. No questions asked other then HOW MUCH
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
I was just talking in IRC with a friend who is convinced "ALL THE MEDIA IS OWNED BY LIBERALS"
Then visited the WOW forums where a CM pointed out that "If we had a poll for whether -your- class is the worst, everyone would vote yes".
And here on Disagree Mail we have Slashdot being "obviously" owned by Microsoft, Apple, AND Google.
People see whatever they want to see, truth be damned.
Er, "Yarr, Truth be damned ta the scurvy pits o' hell! Us Pirates hav' tha roughest life of 'em all!"
Where is your intergrity, Slashdot?
Didn't you know? They traded it for cats.
is that Slashdot is full of Aspies who cannot tolerate change in what they're used to.
+++ATH0
I'm wondering if the haters are worried that some of their e-mails may be put in this section... That would be a good reason to shout "Kill it!", no?
Marriage is between a man and a period, not a man and an apostrophe!
+++ATH0
So the man who say he can see will rule the world or just get called dumb by opposing party systems.
Hmm, although I can't really be bothered about this particular problem of Slashdot, I do find the pattern interesting the post shares with other sites, where it was actually used as some form of FUD or ad hominem argument against critical users. You ridicule a few who deserve to be ridiculed, so you can safely ignore the rest. Pah, critical people...
That said, I think the people that wrote the examples shown here, failed to realize the true nature of their observations (putting on my alu hat..), which is that many big companies are actively performing pr activities on posts concerning them. And I even left out the fan boys in this or mere employees down modding any critical reply about the company they work for. It's a real thing. Setting the mood in discussions where it matters can swing things around and be very profitable.
A 100% increase would be a doubling. The increase is only 192%. The new rate is 292% of the older.
Here's your sig.
How many stories did he include in his sample of positive/negatively valenced Microsoft stories?
It's entirely possible that the 25% is in fact not a significant (statistically) increase.
I beg to differ. I'll take a cat over integrity any time.
I love the /. Disagree Mail section... continuously amazes me that people will take things soooo seriously and have such powerful opinions over... stuff.
Maybe its because I live on a different continent from /. readers, with different priorities, that most of the news and some people's extreme views on them seem... trivial, to say the least.
Funny though :-)
*points at an angry poster* ... *chuckles*
"...send me a mail"
And not long ago a "mail" used to be a "letter".
Why do we now resort to baby talk?
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Oh god, you really are batshit insane.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=112229&cid=9521025
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