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Explosions at the Boston Marathon
Reports are coming in that the headquarters at the Boston Marathon have been locked down after two explosions were reported near the finish line. According to reports "dozens of people have been seriously injured." CNN has live coverage. Google has a Person Finder up for Boston.
Update: The Boston Police Dept. says 2 people have died and 23 are injured. News conference scheduled for 4:30 ET.
Update: The Boston Police Dept. says 2 people have died and 23 are injured. News conference scheduled for 4:30 ET.
Tell me again how gun legislation would have prevented this???
confetti?
RUN!
I hope that all affected by this get out safely!
No matter who started these acts, this is quite worrisome. Crazy individual? Crackdown. Possessed fanatical group? Crackdown. Some kind of involved ploy to funnel dollars to contractors? Even worse...
The only good that will come out of it is the rallying of the American spirit. Be safe, all.
Saw a clip of the two explosions. First one occurs right at the finish line and then the second one within 20 seconds 2 blocks away. It appears clear that this was a coordinated attack.
that pretty much says it. Why? Why do this? Your idealism is more important then other people?
I bet the Jews did this.
Looks like bostonglobe.com is down, here's a live CBS feed that's still working http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/04/explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-line/
At least the war on the environment is going well
An explosive finish!
Sports are good for your health, they said, but I'm the one laughing now in the basement.
Kim Jong-Un rejoices of the success of his intercontinental missile attack..
YOU ARE AN IDIOT
Has anyone checked or reported as checking for radiation at the site? Of course, they may not want to report that particular thing if it were true.
Hups, just saw a clip and it look like one of the explosions was set off behind a large widow to use the glass as shrapnel.
Gonna be interesting to see who they nail for this.
News that matters.
dirty bomb
I just felt a tremor in the force, like the Bill of Rights being stripped from hundreds of millions of Americans...
Who shall we blame this time? Dem dirty communist hippi anarchs? or ye good olde muslims?
There's not even a middle, yet. It's only the beginning of a story, even if it's at the end of the Boston Marathon.
Your editor should be horse-drawn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots'_Day
For those that are not from the area.
We have reports of people with missing limbs. happened near the Boston Public Library. Scary shit.
Opposite day!
Tell me again how gun legislation would have prevented this???
First off, people are likely dead and the first comment is political horseshit. Immediate concerns should be focused on the victims, their families, their friends, their coworkers and then the investigation into who or what did this. A month later, you can start your political monkey shitfight okay? We still don't know what happened and I, personally, am concerned first and foremost for the safety of the people of Boston.
... but that's not sound logic to block gun legislation. By the way, I think even the most idiotic gun nuts think we should have some legislation covering guns like, you know, background checks to weed out felons. There is a need for some gun legislation, the debate is how much. Are you saying it should be legal for underage kids to bring guns to school? Are you saying parents shouldn't be held accountable when they leave a fully loaded handgun for their kid to find? Are you saying your neighbor shouldn't be able to have celebratory gunfire into the sky daily? All of that is technically gun legislation.
Secondly whenever anything bad happens, do you show up and ask how gun legislation would have prevented this? Gun legislation isn't going to prevent deaths from drunk driving
Mmmm...
I wonder what other parts of the constitution they will rip up to protect us from explosions?
-Hack
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
because Obama single handedly killed Osama Bin Laden, finishing off Al Queda.
Isn't it sad that the first thought I have after, "those poor people, I hope they're OK!", is, " Oh, great, *now* what civil rights is the US government going to shit all over?"
What is this wait and see you're talking about? Let's bomb some country and then ask the questions! It worked last time didn't ti?
No, it's called "not jumping to conclusions"
We ONLY know two facts: there were two explosions and people injured - maybe explosions.
For all we know, some truck with tanks of CO2 for soda machines lost its strap and a couple tanks fell off and exploded when they hit the ground.
I mean really, are you that much of a scare whore that you want to put people into panic?!
And let's say - just say - it's a fucking terrorist attack - douzens of people were hurt. That sucks but ... big fucking deal! It's not like it's 3,000 jumping there deaths!
Cooler heads Prevail!
Repeat that 10,000 times.
Repeat 100 billion times - the media ALL THE MEDIA - are a bunch of cock sucking whores and will make a flea bite out to be a terrorist attack.
in the 80's we played nice with the scumbags until they crashed airplanes into sky scrapers
water board the bastards all day if we have to
If anyone remembers 9/11, most US media websites could not handle Internet traffic. slashdot was able to scale traffic and keep information flowing in a time
of horror and chaos. this is before the day of social media and citizen journalism.
maybe, if you were in Boston now or had friends or loved ones who might have been near the finish line on Boylston Street at the time of the explosionsyou'd be concerned when you could not reach the local newspaper website. maybe then, you would not ask what this has to do with news for nerds.
>> What does that have to do with this?
the Boston Marathon is known for being one of the toughest marathons out there because of the giant 6-mile uphill at the end. This just made it worse for the runners. Considering the Boston marathon is a national tourist attraction, my guess is that this was aimed at hurting Boston's economy.
Here's a video of the actual explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUsu-yoIzq8.
Doesn't look good..
A homemade bomb disfigures two men.
Seriously, the far right wingers who control the republican party is more of a threat to America, than is AQ. They constantly speak of attacking America esp. when they lose elections. Sadly, they are not much different than those in the south who insisted on slavery and then called it state's rights.
First off, people are likely dead and the first comment is political horseshit. Immediate concerns should be focused on the victims, their families, their friends, their coworkers and then the investigation into who or what did this.
Right on!
By the way, I think even the most idiotic gun nuts think we should have some legislation covering guns like, you know, background checks to weed out felons. There is a need for some gun legislation, the debate is how much.
And then you did that. You are no better than he; worse even because at least he doesn't proclaim it's a horrible time to debate gun control and do just that.
Too bad both of you were not in Boston today.
Why is this on a tech news site? I come here for the news that I can't get on CNN, not for the general interest stuff that I can. Please, slashdot, please, return to your tech roots. It's what brought us here in the first place.
What will happen to the bread and circuses if they bomb the circuses? Will we still get the bread?
I was being serious about this until I saw blood all over the ground and M&Ms guy is just chilling like Fonzie.
I can't take it.
I usually disagree with the stooges who ask why stuff of legal or societal interest is on slashdot, but why is this on slashdot?
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341167/
Agreed. /. was impressive with its news coverage on 9/11.
This is news for everyone.
the taxpayers!
I'm sure Michael Chertoff is already salivating like a Pavlov dog...
...and ofc you will give back the oil and unmake CIA meddling in politics? so that u can finally live in peace?
u funny funny guy
It's that damn Tommy Lee Jones at it again!
The timing is precisely when the world would be watching, and the location is precise as well at the finish line.
Based on the quality of power in my neighborhood, I'll bet on a transformer blowing up...load switching to other transformers and then another one blowing up. Admittedly shouldn't be enough to kill...
I come here for the love
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-04-15/why-gold-crashing
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Pity you have no idea what he was referencing. He was responding to a "first post"er claiming it would cause more anti gun legislation.
First off, people are likely dead and the first comment is political horseshit. Immediate concerns should be focused on the victims, their families, their friends, their coworkers and then the investigation into who or what did this.
Right on!
By the way, I think even the most idiotic gun nuts think we should have some legislation covering guns like, you know, background checks to weed out felons. There is a need for some gun legislation, the debate is how much.
And then you did that. You are no better than he; worse even because at least he doesn't proclaim it's a horrible time to debate gun control and do just that.
That wasn't a debate point, that was pointing out that some gun legislation already exists. The statement neither argued for more nor less.
Too bad both of you were not in Boston today.
Are you fucking serious?
By the way, I think even the most idiotic gun nuts think we should have some legislation covering guns like, you know, background checks to weed out felons. There is a need for some gun legislation, the debate is how much. Are you saying it should be legal for underage kids to bring guns to school? Are you saying parents shouldn't be held accountable when they leave a fully loaded handgun for their kid to find? Are you saying your neighbor shouldn't be able to have celebratory gunfire into the sky daily? All of that is technically gun legislation.
Can you scream "I am a hypocrite" any louder? The lecture on priorities followed immediatly by political lecture on gun issue is quite amusing.
Observations that gun legislation exists in many forms already are not lectures. Which side was the GP arguing for?
holy shit, the gold reserves have been replaced with bitcoins!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
The world has changed in the last 12 years, Slashdot is now a little fish in a much bigger pond. In case you haven't noticed, there's now many sites with live video coverage that suck waaaaay more bandwidth and server power than this little mostly text based site.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
nuked into oblivion...Iran wouldn't do that either for similar reasons.
That makes no sense to me. There is almost nothing that Iran could do that would invite a nuclear strike from the U.S. Why? Because the people or Iran, by and large, are not at all culpable in what the crazy government wants to do. They are like a few million hostages being held in a bank; we can't just burn down the bank the hostages are being held in to get rid of handful of crazy people attacking us.
Iran knows they aren't going to get nuked, and furthermore WANTS to be attacked because they want to start a war period, to justify further actions on their part that cannot even in the middle east be justified in a first strike.
I don't think Iran did this mind you; I'm just saying there are very few groups you could at all rule out because of retaliation.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/rahmemanue409199.html
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." -Rahm Emanuel
Former aid to President Obama and current mayor of Chicago which is undergoing major budgetary and violent crime crisises as we speak.
Drones killing civilians is an accident; people thought there was a military target there. Sometimes mistakes happen, and innocent people die, but the intent is to target military forces and largely that is what happens.
Civilians being killed as in Boston - there is no possibility of it being a military target, the target is as explicitly non-military as you can get.
Can you truly not discern any kind of difference?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Screw reasoning, this is sick (2 balsts, 1 controlled blast, 2 not activated). Hoping investigators will find those people.
This is also doesn't feel like Jihadists...
user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
Be on the lookout for yet another segment in the rape-fest of your rights when they ammend whatever "sign it or you're a terrorist"-underpinned shit bill as a consequence of this, the contents of which will eventually overflow across U.S. borders.
This Google Map location
Seems to match this photo
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/boston-marathon-explosion2.jpg
I hope someone catches you and cuts off your balls you son of a BITCH
I agree. As someone living in NYC at the time, none of our cell phones worked and television was knocked out for a while (I think it was CBS that was still broadcasting because their antenna was on the Empire State Building.).
A largely text-only site like Slashdot is the best scenario for such situations.
Second Site seems to locale for this photo
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/04/Boston%20Photo.jpg
Yup. The war is on.
New Economic Perspectives
$10 says this was militant tea baggers. They all post so much crazy shit about killing people on facebook and eventually one of them snaps and acts on it.
So what's most urgent on the agenda? Will they pin it on Syria? Iran? North Korea maybe? Pro-gunners? I bet they will discover explosive devices which failed to detonate, from which they can extract enough for blame. Perhaps they even find a lost passport. Convenient.
A Saudi National
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
As with the Fort Hood shooting where Nidal Hassan shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, I'm sure the government will rule that this is *not* an act of terrorism!
They're now reporting a third incident at the JFK Library, which has erupted into a fire.
In Soviet Russia, dot slashes YOU!
We seriously need to implement more background checks before allowing people to buy bombs.
It must be a white gun owner aged 25-35 who is affiliated with the tea party. (CNN Propagadist Wolf Blitzer already Tweeted that).
The Saudi will be released as a mistaken suspect.
New laws will have to be passed. More gruesome bloody images will be shown.
Wait and see before passing judgement.
2 devices at the boston marathon finish line
1 device at JFK library
Cell service shut down
This is from the live feed of the Boston PD press meeting
Definitely a coordinated attack, the question is now, who did it?
Isn't it sad that the first thought I have after, "those poor people, I hope they're OK!", is, " Oh, great, *now* what civil rights is the US government going to shit all over?"
That's because, in recent years, the response to the tragedies have been overwhelmingly worse than the tragedy itself.
Tragedy: 9/11 10k dead and two towers:
Response: Invasion of Afganistan, Invasion of Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Retaliation towards brown-skinned people in America, PATRIOT Act, DHS, Border Morons, Huge drain of national resources into wars and security theater, 10k+ dead of American soldiers alone, plus 50k+ wounded American soldiers, plus 100,000's of civilians, Increased hatred towards an overbearing militant superpower (directly leading to more terrorists and more terrorist funding).
If the "self-inflicted" damage that results from this isn't worse than 2 dead, then I'll be surprised (and relieved).
Third Site - JFK Library reported by BBC
Someone's Macbook Retina battery forgot its a battery and decided its a bomb. They did find out that Lithium Ion batteries have memory problems.
Sad to see people injured and killed with this, even sadder when we find out this ends up being some disgruntled American suffering from an overload of first world problems, just like the Atlanta Olympic bombing.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Perhaps prompting and arming some stupid schmuck in order to entrap him for terrorism
Or perhaps something worse, like this: "[Operation] Fast & Furious involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons. It was an utterly heedless program in which the feds allowed these guns to be sold to straw purchasers — often leaning on reluctant gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not followed by close physical surveillance; they were freely permitted to bulk transfer the guns to, among others, Mexican drug gangs and other violent criminals — with no agents on hand to swoop in, make arrests, and grab the firearms. The inevitable result of this was that the guns have been used (and will continue to be used) in many crimes, including the murder of Brian Terry, a U.S. border patrol agent. In sum, the Fast & Furious idea of “trace” is that, after violent crimes occur in Mexico, we can trace any guns the Mexican police are lucky enough to seize back to the sales to U.S. straw purchasers who should never have been allowed to transfer them (or even buy them) in the first place. That is not law enforcement; that is abetting a criminal rampage." -- K. Pavlich
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
directly responsible
I don't think this means what you think it means.....
Are Michael and Fiona vacationing in Boston? I'm used to seeing shit like this all over Miami, but not Boston.
Did anyone else understand the flash and smoke the same way I did? To me it looks very much like a decent sized homemade device, but the builder failed to control the explosion, along the lines of a pipe bomb that had an imperfect seal, allowing the expanding gas of the blast to leak out unevenly. It makes my bet go to a lone American who's pissed off with losing his job or something, and not an organized attack by a larger domestic or foreign group.
They apparently found multiple unexploded bombs. This was confirmed to be a bombing.
TheVeryBest
"Drones killing civilians is an accident; people thought there was a military target there. Sometimes mistakes happen, and innocent people die, but the intent is to target military forces and largely that is what happens."
According to whom, the government that won't officially acknowledge the program exists?
What could we possibly do to prevent such attacks? Treat every such event like a presidential visit? Bomb-sniffing dogs everywhere? Police swarming the area? All buildings on the route thoroughly searched? Every spectator searched?
We live in a free country; stuff like this is the price we pay. What is the alternative? A police state?
Terrorists can't destroy a country, they can only scare a country into destroying itself.
Dilute! Dilute! OK!
Here are a couple hotlines just announced by Boston Chief of Police in response to today's apparent terrorist attacks in Boston: For help locating people: 1-617-635-4500 For witness tips: 1-800-494-TIPS
well, I guess I am surprised.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Historically every marathon finisher gets a medal. Marathoners know that every such a medal is well deserved. Time is not that important. Finishing is winning.
Running a marathon has got many risks. It requires training, discipline, thinking.
It is sad that the second great US marathon had to be canceled.
Also the "founder" of North Korea's birthday, and apparently a day where it's not unexpected for them to do something extra-crazy.
However, that said the Boston Marathon seems like an odd target for external terrorism, unless it's the beginning of something worse. I wasn't even aware it was happening until the bombing.
A common mistake to think our current Government in any way wants to serve us, defend our rights
Yes -- in a humorous bout of wishful thinking, our Declaration of Independence says that the very reason "Governments are instituted" is to "secure" our rights.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Images of a big fireball and a lot of blood on the pavement: http://deadspin.com/explosions-reported-at-the-boston-marathon-473008941
"It's 11, not 7"
Must be those senior moments that started about age 12.
The AP (Associated Press) is reporting that the Boston Police have turned off the cell phone system and infrastructure to prevent the use of cell phone signals from triggering another bomb. Something else to consider when the only means of communication you have left are cell phones and no land lines.
I find it awfully coincidental that this happened right around the time they were talking about some military budget cuts...
What are the odds that those would never happen now?
that the entire world does not revolve around your small penis and need to compensate for it.
In militant Islam everyone from a country that is not fully controlled by Muslim law is considered a valid war target. There are no civilians in the Dar al-Harb (house of war).
I don't disagree with you, but there are many willing to give up their lives to end ours.
...said report also grossly misreports causalities at "12 dead 50 injured", while also misreporting unrelated event at the JFK library as "the library bombing".
Neither of which is true, nor was it reported by police.
From TFA:
The library bombing occurred about 4:30 p.m. and more than a mile from the marathon.
A law enforcement source confirmed to The Post that 12 people were killed and nearly 50 were injured in today's blast.
From Boston Police Dept. official twitter feed:
Update JFK incident appears to be fire related
Update 23 injuries 2 dead
Tea Party activists have all had peaceful, clean protests.
Occupiers like yourself have however smashed windows, set fire to things and attacked police. They've also attacked a Democratic party HQ in a false flag attack.
So if we had to choose a domestic source for the attack, it would very likely be some group you admire responsible. In fact it could very well be someone like yourself trying to set up the Tea Party... with any luck you posted from a traceable IP because it's very likely whoever did this would be online monitoring posts about it, as you are.
Oh, wait... Where am I? When am I?
At least they were able to successfully retrieve the big O from the golf course in time to take a not exactly all that impressive looking photo. Wonder how much that cost us?
...and here comes the security theater. Word is that cell phone service in Boston has been shut down to prevent cell-phone detonations--I'd assume this is being done by ordering cell towers to not certain types of calls as opposed to using an RF jammer. Hopefully, they're still allowing burglar/fire alarm cell networks to operate (i.e., Honeywell AlarmNet).
Bruce Schneier will no doubt write about this, but shutting off cell phone service will not stop remote detnoation; off-the-shelf GMRS radios have a pretty long range.
You can do the Boston Shake!
is that paranoid gun nuts spew this ignorant BS all the time. Which shows why they are against any sort of mandatory psych evaluations, since even they know that they are off their rockers.
It only takes one side to fight a war, and this war is called jihad.
Do you really want to lose that war? Lose that war, and the naifs who call fundamental Christian opposition to gay marriage "hate" will learn the TRUE depths of homophobic, misogynistic, anti-humanity HATE at the black heart of Islam.
I suspect that this event will lead to legislation to increase surveillance powers for the intelligence gathering agencies. Any red tape that still exists which allows agencies to tap communications of suspects will be removed. Whether this event was perpetrated by foreigners or americans is irrelevant. For example, if it is a homegrown attack by some disturbed person, then the agencies will claim it could have been prevented if they were allowed to eavesdrop on all communication of former mental patients, and felons without warrant. Then we've got a law that states ISPs and telcos have to allow access to any agent who can show that the account holder is a former felon - which will end up meaning that anyone with the same name as a former felon is fair game for eavesdropping. If the attack was done by foreign elements, then we'll see calls for warrantless eavesdropping for anyone who has recently entered the country, or recently convicted felons (since nobody ever stands up for felons). Either way, we're all boned.
I welcome our new 99% overlords.
I had decided not to do any RACES/ARES work because of being burned out after 10 years as a 911 Dispatcher, including being there as 9/11 occured. I'm starting to reconsider that decision.
...how would you categorize that?
You think big fish are good at... what exactly?
If you'd said that slashdot got bought out and no longer has the people in place to pull something like that off again, sure, but to suggest that the 'big fish' who "suck waaay more bandwidth and server power" than slashdot would be able to weather another worldwide news meltdown like 9/11 is... well, I'm picturing Jackie Chan.
>> Gonna be interesting to see who they nail for this.
Same as every other time this happens: Lady Liberty.
I always wondered what she was hiding up her skirt.
Find the stupid rat bastards that did this, shoot them and those who helped them. Its not a gas line explosion, the probabilities are way off. I don't really care what the nutter wants or what their ideals are. Its clear that their ideas aren't worth pursuing, and they have to use bombs to get attention. They could bomb my street or my house, and I don't want that, so the way is clear: 1) find those who planted the bombs and what their ideals are 2) shoot them 3) bomb those who hold similar ideals, till they can't bomb my street or your street. If it requires bombing or shooting a lot of them, bomb or shoot a lot. The line about 'confused youth gone radical' has grown very thin. Oh, and before someone claims they are idealists, no they aren't: they are cowardly murderers.
Boston has a huge internet/tech/biotech community.
Please help metamoderate.
Just a FYI for all you wanting to blame the Tea Party and other "right-wing extremist groups" Suspect in custody, Saudi National: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_suspect_guard_y2m8cJO29uC2PDGIjYBalO
You're too kind. In the last 12 years, Slashdot went from a major internet forum to a has-been, a shadow of its former self, with most users fleeing for greener pastures.
President Lawnchair just gave his news conference and used the usual weasel words that were signature of every administration of recent memory. He will do whatever his corporate overlords tell him to do.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
In my attempt to take the day off from coding my latest ULTIMATE Android app, I noticed the BULL SH*T on television.
Now, not being the totally cynical human being I am, keep in mind I got this scenario in my head because of all the history books I read about governments. Not only from reading, but in my case I have found people to be treacherous in general. So I might have a paranoid bias.
No matter, because even if I am paranoid, the times we live in make people like me VERY valuable. People like me, don't miss a THING that goes on now days.
But, let me guess what is going to happen after the BULL SH*T dust settles:
1) Our government will announce they have NO IDEA how this happened, and that they will "GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS". Meanwhile, like all of the NO IDEA events in the past decade they will parade families on TV in between IDOL spots declaring how unsafe the streets are in BOSTON and how could the government let them kill my baby. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Government SAVE ME!!!!! ...meanwhile:
RESULT: TSA will get the go ahead to put troops on the streets in the future as more events that the government claims they have NO IDEA about happen or some other BULL SH*T.
2) A couple of weeks later, it will be discovered that this a domestic terrorist because as we all know who are tracking the world events, the crap is starting to finally hit the fan in the derivatives markets, and the banks are desperate for cash from all of their criminal activities.
No doubt they will get some patsy to parade on TV like the BATMAN guy or something else....anything really and announce that well, yet another piece of that, dirty, outdated piece of paper the constitution ... needs to go!!!
Of course, it is to keep everyone safe!!
So, after looting Europe, surprise here they come for America. So to start things off, we need a couple of bombs to go off.
Oh, and as more bombs go off, they will claim: "Oh we the BANKS have bad news. It looks like these domestic terrorists have created a PANIC in the markets and your accounts will have to be frozen".
Darn, those terrorists:
RESULT: Some sort of financial liquidity event for the crony bankers, and the government who protects them. Meanwhile you will be lucky if you get your money out of the bank or you are WIPED OUT.
I could be wrong of course...but I doubt it.
-Hack
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
And now for something completely different.
the term "Tree of Liberty" is associated with Thomas Jefferson's quotation, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." from the Liberty Tree article at
...so that I may come to your home, bash your knees, elbows, spine and jaw with a baseball bat, then make you watch as I bash the brains out of all your family members and your close friends, burn your house down along with your car and all your belongings, plow it all over, salt the ground, kill your pets... and then hang you by your eyeballs from a tallest building in the area, for everyone to see.
After that, we'll stuff you corps and tour you around schools for children to see and spit at.
And every year, on your birthday, we will burn effigies of you while violently murdering people who bare your name or likeness. Live, on national television.
And then when we have eliminated you and your family from the bloodline and culture - we'll nuke the place you were born at.
Just to make sure nothing like you ever crawls out from under a rock again.
Harshly and intolerant of political bullshit enough for ya? No?
How about if we make you rape all your family with razorblades first? Would that do the trick?
Let us know if you have some more specific ideas. We're open to suggestions. I'll go get my bat.
From Boston.com.
by greener pastures you mean kuro5hin, digg and rebbit right? LOL
Snowden and Manning are heroes.
Iran wants to start a war? That's news to fucking everyone who pays attention.
If you had in fact been paying attention you might have read one of the many speeches the leader of Iran has given proclaiming they are going to wipe Israel out. Should we not listen and just "pay attention" to people like yourself who tell us to ignore what they say they want to do?
Or perhaps you were alluding to the fact that Iran has not really ever ended a war, as the feed arms to Iraq, Syra, the PLA, etc.
Get a grip.
I have a grip. You need a clue.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Time on the clock at explosion 04:09:44
I keep thinking the time has something to do with it.
Article written 4/9/1944
http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm
If you're looking for someone, or have information about someone who's lost, post it here: http://google.org/personfinder/2013-boston-explosions
Who shall we blame this time? Dem dirty communist hippi anarchs? or ye good olde muslims? or those slanty eyed Chinese?
I said this in December, I'm saying it again. I'm pulling out. I'm pulling out all of my money, my business, and my plans from your country. You simply don't deserve my money.
Once again, "we'll find out who did this, and we'll bring them to justice.".
You seem to be satisfied by prosecuting terrorists. Congrats. Your people die, and you win afterwards.
This isn't a security issue. It isn't a safety issue.
This is a social, cultural, economic, political, or financial issue. And you aren't bothering to even try to solve it.
I don't need you. And I'm not interested in your business anymore. Quite frankly, I spent all weekend working on a really tough, really expensive project. And if I find out that my client's customer is among the dead in boston, I'll be very upset when they don't pay my bill.
I can't imagine how many of my hard earned dollars that I've spent on U.S. products and services wind up turning into tax dollars to fund your emergency services and bomb clean-up crews. It's really not worth it to me.
In december, I asked you how many children need to die before you decide that things need to change. And you didn't do anything, didn't change any laws, and seem to have totally forgotten. So now I'm going to ask a new question.
What needs to happen before you decide that your country just doesn't deserve to have you any more. What needs to happen before you decide to leave. What will happen before you spin the globe and pick a beautiful part of the world where no terrorist attacks, international or domestic, have EVER happened? When will you move?
You don't deserve my money any more. I realize that now. I'm not sure that you ever did.
Probably just out of bandwidth. Verizon says their 4G service in the area is overloaded but texting is working. Boston.com was redirecting to their own blog for a while, but now they're back up on their main site.
Ok... Pure speculation, but what I would do if I was designing an anti-terrorist plan.
Imagine you have immediate access to all cell phone activity in the country. There are reported reasons to believe that this is true...
ASAP prepaid cellphone lockout in the area, and possibly nationwide or just rich target areas.
Almost immediately thereafter cellphone number of the triggers and what phone called them. (This can be done by simply looking at calls that weren't answered at the right time and right location),
Tracking of location of calling phone, to within a cell tower.
Time tracking of triggered phones and calling phone, within a relatively short period of time. Proximity (time/location) to any other preferably pre-paid phones, this will give an indication to additional devices.
Transmit to authorities continual location of calling phone.
Full time tracking of triggered phones. To give location of origin of bomb making, number of devices, time of plot, testing of devices.
Take down of bomb making site.
Additional features I am sure.
All within hours, max. I am sure that this would have been scripted for almost immediate action. Who knows what the constitutional implications are.
McVeigh was an atheist on his own tangent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views_and_religious_beliefs
McVeigh was a registered Republican when he lived in Buffalo, New York in the 1980s, and had a membership in the National Rifle Association while in the military,[84] but voted for Libertarian Party candidate, Harry Browne, in the 1996 presidential elections.[85] McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.[86] During his childhood, he and his father attended Mass regularly.[87] McVeigh was confirmed at the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York, in 1985.[88] In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."[86] In the 2001 book American Terrorist, McVeigh stated that he did not believe in Hell and that science is his religion.[89][90] In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying as agnostic.[91] Before his execution, McVeigh took the Catholic sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick.[92]
AND... the analysis here is , by and large, logical and rational. Compare that to the wildly inaccurate, scoop-driven 24 hour news cycle. In a pinch, I'd rather hear from people who think for a living.
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In case you haven't noticed, there's now many sites with live video coverage that suck waaaaay more bandwidth and server power than this little mostly text based site.
Which is why it is so resilient and scales well.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
I was listening to "Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom" by The Vengaboys at the time. Am I a horrible person for busting out laughing a while afterward?
And she WOULD have been a belieber.
I was on my way to pay those taxes...
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Wakka Wakka!
If you didn't do anything wrong, why then were you running?
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How many general people know /. compared to CNN and other general news web sites? I am sure if everyone knew /., then /. would have problems. Reddit had problems earlier today. I am pretty sure it was related to this event. :(
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I have a friend living in Ecuador and the biggest surprise he found is that he can't get baking soda at the grocery store. Apparently there's some way to make some explosive where one of the steps involves baking soda as a reagent. So, a bombing happened one time, and apparently (unless I've been very obscurely punked) they banned baking soda in response.
America will not be safe while baking soda can threaten our children! You bitter clingers with your buttermilk pancakes and your Irish soda bread are just holding on to obsolete notions!
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
NRA has responded to the recent bombing by calling for all Americans to carry bombs. "If everyone had a bomb then we would be able to bomb the bombers before they bombed us".
It doesn't matter what you think of President or our collapsing system - the people are to blame for the BS that is in the "news". Bomb proof public trash cans?? they exist but we won't pay for them... that would raise taxes. We'd like them and somebody can get points for saying we need them but we won't pay for it and if we do we'll throw out whomever is responsible for spending our money. Even this is just a side issue:
If people weren't such drama queens there would be no point in performing such acts. Stuff happens and a lot more in other places in the world; oh, there is a much larger world beyond North America. 2 people died, some were hurt. nothing important to see, move on. More likely somebody you know will be hurt in their car tomorrow... but you all are not giving it a second worth of thought.
A Monsanto exec kills more people every day.
Democracy Now! - uncensored, anti-establishment news
The inquiry will report to the UN general assembly in New York this autumn. Depending on its findings, it may recommend further action. Emmerson has previously suggested some drone attacks – particularly those known as "double tap" strikes where rescuers going to the aid of a first blast have become victims of a follow-up strike – could possibly constitute a "war crime".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/24/un-examine-uk-afghanistan-drone-strikes
FUCK YOU!
So, these (& similar) Android app give audio on the event:
1. "Scanner Radio" app offers a list
- sorted by number of listeners -
of available online scanners, ie,
around USA & the world.
When I chose Boston police, fire, etc.
from that list (of course, it held top-place),
there were over 50,000 others listening-in.
Normally, numbers of listeners - across
the list - are under 500.
(If your area lacks an online-connected
scanning receiver & your have such a
receiver & some bandwidth to share,
why not consider adding your area's
emergency services audio to the list?)
2a. "TuneIn [Pro]" app is (yet another)
Internet Radio app; [Boston Univ Radio's]
WBUR stayed on the story -continuously-
from shortly after the event became known.
2b. Using the same app, one can get cur-
rent weather and detailed forecasts, also
on a continuous basis, from USA Weather
broadcasters (commercial-free, these are
available 24x7 - to those near the area of the
event - on 10 VHF channels near 162 MHz);
Boston's gov't weather station was available
via TuneIn (Search "By location" for Boston
for a list of all broadcasters - AM / FM / Wx,
including some located in nearby states).
3. "EchoLink" app - for Radio Amateurs -
let licensed Hams listen to & (in normal times)
even transmit on repeaters - most on 2m VHF
(around 146 MHz) & 70cm UHF (near 440 MHz)
- that would become active, especially when an
event (flood, earthquake, etc.) takes out normal
POTS or cellular phone & 2-way radio comms.
(If you're a Radio Ham, you can add your own
station (eg, home, office or vehicle radio) or
your club's repeater to the list. Whenever you
sign-in, you're on one of the lists, so friends
can contact you, on the fly. Also, EchoLink is
like an old-time phone-echange switchboard,
ie, able to connect repeaters, etc. together, eg,
to support relief operations after a larger dis-
aster or - during peaceful times - just a yacht-
or bike-race, etc.)
These apps work on Android phones & tab's
2.2 thru 4.1.2, in my experience. Of course,
YMMV.
I don't know what app's may be available for
iPhone, etc.
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Go donate blood if you're near the area.
Please
Somebody has a problem with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacco_and_Vanzetti
Multiple bombings involved. I once looked at a house which had replaced the one in which one of the jurors lived - it was damaged by an anarchist bomb in 1927 and had to be torn down.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
they aren't even a real country anyway
*The Chinese
*The Russians
*The Muslims
*The non-Whites
*The anti-capitalists
Who else ??
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
...if there were any drones flying overhead at the time of the explosions?
The obvious solution is to have all marathon runners carry AR -15s - with 50 round magazines. That out of the way - my condolences and support for the deceased and wounded and to quote Jack Burton - "son of a bitch must pay!!!!!"
I have never defended the dirtbag McVeigh, and do not know anybody who has but you seem a tad ignorant
"collateral damage" is a term that has been around for a long time and is used in MANY situations. Although it is often used in situations tainted by politics (like seemingly EVERYTHING these days) it is NOT a political term. Collateral Damage is the damage that occurs as a generally predictable but not specifically targeted side-effect of something else. Example: when the allies dropped a bomb on a ball bearing factory in Germany and ended up destroying a neighboring building, the target was the factory, and it was predictable that neighboring things would be damaged or destroyed but the specific building next to the factory was not, itself, targeted.... THAT neighboring building was "collateral damage". As such (and as a guy with military experience) if McVeigh said the kids were "collateral damage" he was using a specific military term to indicate the kids WERE NOT targeted but was acknowledging that his bomb killed them.
For some bizarre reason, people on the left have been attempting to twist the technical term "collateral damage" into a political term meaning "killed/destroyed with reckless disregard".... the term has nothing to do with intent other than to say "destroyed while not being targeted, and not by the weapon going off-target"
terrorism was originally state originated (e.g. Reign of Terror in France), but in the revolutionary scheme of things, the idea behind terrorism is to create a feeling in the population that the government is unable to control things, and that they should rise up and overthrow the government (particularly if you're a nihilist), or throw the government out (e.g. the Irgun driving the British out of Palestine in the 40s). The IRA bombings in England are another example: an attempt to make the English population rise up and demand that their government stop their activities in Ireland.
Roadside IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan are not terrorism: they're simply guerilla warfare.
Diplomacy generally does not work to prevent classic terrorism, because diplomacy works with the government, and the terrorist is trying to tear down the government by creating a crisis of confidence in the population, to replace it with a better one.
There are also psychopaths who like the commotion and excitement from the bombing. Not unlike the arsonist.
McVeigh was in the wrong and did an evil act (and interestingly was killed for it FAR faster that anybody from the left is ever killed for their political violence) BUT he did not target that building for its day care center. Indeed, by placing a day care center in a federal law enforcement facility (an obvious target) one might argue that the feds were using those kids as "human shields" (Personally, I tend to think this was not the case and that the placement was a combination of laziness and convenience and poor risk management... but the US often accuses people in the middle east of using kids as "human shields" when they do similar things). McVeigh targeted the facility because its occupants had ties to the Waco Raid, which many on the right saw (and many continue to see) as a shocking example of an out-of-control federal agency mass-murdering Americans in their own home as part of a political endeavor which included a pile of lies and "lost" paperwork and "misplaced" evidence when (if there even was a real justification to make an arrest) the feds had plenty of documented opportunities to do so peacefully off-site and away from all the "collateral damage" (the piles of dead women and children resulting from the raid). People also forget the ties to Ruby Ridge in which the feds similarly lied their butts off while murdering people who were no danger to anybody else and simply wanted to be left alone. McVeigh acted stupidly and at a time when anti-ATF sentiments were boiling; his target was very specific (not something general like a marathon race and not something terrorist like "a bunch of random children in a day care center")
TEA partiers tend to be extremely focused on the problems of over-taxation and trillion dollar annual deficit spending, and as such should not be automatically presumed to have much in common with people who have issues with the ATF (which is where McVeigh was coming from). Also, contrary to the mindless drivel at MSNBC and Comedy Central, there's no record of TEA Party violence. Even among those on the right who do have an extreme hatred for the ATF (not generally a TEA Party issue), violence is extremely rare... far less rare than violence is on the left (see: President Obama's friend Bill Ayers and all the bombings of his era, the bomb-play of some of the "occupiers", etc)
That's an interesting spin! Why would a bunch of militant gay guys attack gay-friendly Boston? I get it that it would be consistent with the trend in the US for most political bombings (McVeigh is an odd exception) to be carried out by the left, and sexual deviancies tend to be a left-wing fixation ... but if a bunch of gay guys were gonna bomb something I'd have expected it to be in South Carolina or Texas... perhaps at a "straight pride" parade... oh, wait, straight people don't generally run parade floats down main street celebrating their sexual proclivities....
There have been a lot of bombings in Kenya lately, and when the winners reach the end of the Boston Marathon there are a lot of high-visibility Kenyans right about where those bombs went off. Just a theory...
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More like Hacker News and invite only forums.
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maybe then, you would not ask what this has to do with news for nerds.
So Slashdot is now a service for one ten-millionth of the world population who might want to see their local newspaper's website?
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
-- Sherlock Holmes, speaking in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's "A Study in Scarlet"
...the people of Boston used to run collections to support the terrorists who were bombing the people of Belfast.
Just saying....
Slashdot is the ONLY place I've seen on the net so far where the majority of comments (at least the up-voted ones anyway) are talking about the potential for further restrictions of rights, drone strikes being the precipitation for the attacks, and general political shit slinging (despite the fact it could very well be just the result of a single dickhead who's got his own issues with whatever). Everyone else, from reddit to just general talking, is concerned about the actual attack and people's experiences more than anything else.
Yes the potential ramifications of what might happen as a result of this attack are important - but I have to ask why Slashdot commenters are the only ones so obsessed with talking about them RIGHT NOW. Are we so absolutely cynical about the world that this is all we can discuss? As if some people can't just be naturally evil and want to do this for their own gain regardless of what the US Government might be responsible for?
Apparently being anti-Steam is grounds for insults, even if there's basis. I shall learn to keep my mouth shut.
The world has changed in the last 12 years, Slashdot is now a little fish in a much bigger pond. In case you haven't noticed, there's now many sites with live video coverage that suck waaaaay more bandwidth and server power than this little mostly text based site.
Having live video coverage of a load of emergency services vehicles parked on the streets hours after a terrorist event is entirely useless in providing information.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
It's good to see that someone's worked everything out so quickly. You really are a fucking Renaissance guy, able to move from coding apps to change the ringtone on your phone to global political analysis in your break times. Well done!
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
It was in a way a triumph for Slashdot, but also the start of the downfall.
Ever since 9/11 coverage Slashdot irreversibly changed. It gained a different demographic and turned distinctly more political. That in my opinion is when the tech content became more and more rare, with Your Rights Online section becoming most common types of stories posted.
Pity.
So, how many duster coats and fedoras do you have in your closet?
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
Stop or I'll shoot anyway.
Agreed. /. was impressive with its news coverage on 9/11.
This is news for everyone.
Especially since the Boston Marathon is an International event. It is International news.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Seem you are the one who failed with your inane speculation.
A Saudi National has been detained. Mostly because he seems to have blown himself up.
Just a bit of advice...if the idiots are agreeing with you, it's time to reassess your position.
An advice that all of us should heed.
Boston police commissioner says no suspect is in custody in marathon explosions
At a press conference Monday night, Boston police commissioner Edward Davis refuted reports that a suspect in Monday's Boston Marathon bombing was at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.
"I want to stress one thing," Davis said. "There is no suspect at Brigham and Women's Hospital. There are people that we are talking to but there is no suspect at Brigham and Women's Hospital as has been widely reported in the press. I would like to fix that right now."
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I tend to take every story from Boston with a grain of salt. The last time they claimed a terrorist attack it was christmas lights that somebody put up. Before that it wwas a squirtgun, and / or fireworks.
Boston has a history of crying wolf wolf. The positions and timing would indicate these could have been simple underground transformers exploding.
A terrorist could have killed more people if done at the beginning of the race, when the crowds were bigger, or a terrorist could have hit a TSA checkpoint at a major airport. That would have proven to the world that the TSA is pointless, and cost the federal government hundreds of mllions.
A home grown terrorist mad at the government would more likely go after a government building or military forces. Even Timoth McVey did that. Internet resources show a lot of anger towards government, and most of the time people are just venting their frustrations, but those that are real threats still seem to target government officials like Congress, or board members of big corporations lik Monsantos.
The third theory is that it is an inside job. Government officials doing this as a way, an excuse to grab guns, and bring about more tightened control over the people. Mr. Obama has everything to gain by doing this and the federal agencies should be considered suspects in this and any future cases, the federal authorities should not be allowed to be involved in any investigations.
Even if none of those are true, I remind everybody of the Olympic park bombing that authorities got completely wrong and it took them years to finally figure stuff out.
Why is this news for nerds?
Then why the hell are you on Slashdot? We don't think - we parrot the approved talking points of our little cliche
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=308999&cid=20762065
Casteism
I feel for the afflicted. Boston holds a special place in my heart. Speaking as a tourist in the USA, it is the most beautiful and peaceful city I've ever been to. Its people the kindest and most reasonable, and these qualities were hard to find with such abundance in other big cities I've been to on the east coast.
Bombing civilians is a hideous act and this kind of thing should not happen anywhere, but Boston holds a dear place in my heart, and it makes me sadder to see it happening there...
I know what needs to be done. We must ban all gatherings greater than 3 people. No permits allowed as that will create the target of opportunity. This would need to include sporting events, graduations, movies, fairs, carnivals, swap meets, renaissance faires, street performers of any kind that are good enough to gather a crowd, etc. Once we no longer have the crowd that a bomb could injure, then we will no longer have to fear bombs being planted. It wouldn't be worth it to blow up a bomb to kill one person. Might as well use a knife of bullet at that point.
I just realized we would also need to limit the number of emergency personnel that respond to any emergency. You might injure a couple of people and then when the EMT's show up you blow up the bomb to get the larger target goal. Even firefighters, if too many were in one burning building at once it would make that building a target for terrorists, so we must limit it to only 3 firefighters at a time in the building.
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My guess is this was done as a protest against the new gun laws being
debated by legislatures country-wide as well as Congress.
Someone who considers themselves a Super Patriot thinks it's OK to maim
and kill innocent people to protest what they see as an erosion of his god-given
rights to bear arms.
The perps of this attack are coward scum. My advice to them is to never claim responsibility. The U.S. has shown that no matter how fast you run and how hard you try to hide, we will find you and give you "da badda bing", like we did Bin Laden. Let's just hope that this time, thousands of your neighbors don't have to die also. It should be easier to do this time around, since, we're getting pretty good at sending Hellfire missiles fired from drones up terrorists a**es.
another Islamist suicide bomber kills 20 at a Peshawar political rally.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-97057-Peshawar:-Blast-near-ANP-rally-kills-17,-injures-60
while Pakistan condemns the latest US drone killings.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/16/298603/pakistan-condemns-us-drone-attack/
Unless Wikileaks gets the footage, it will never make the TV news though.
That's exactly what they want you to think. Remember, if you're a professional you can make it look amateur, but not the other way round. Military grade explosives[1] would have been a total giveaway.
I'm giving them far too much credit, aren't I?
[1] You'll notice it went "poof", rather than "BANG", implying relatively low powered explosives.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Prophet. It's the other lot that worship profits.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Your shift key obviously works, becaue you were able to type left and right parentheses.
Your period key works too.
So Captialize your fucking sentences and end them with periods, OK?
Dumb shit.
Your friend,
Gramer andspeling guy
Captialize your fucking sentences and end them with periods, OK?
Dumb shit.
Your friend,
Gramer andspeling guy