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Linux on a Magazine Cover?

romney wrote in to give us the scoop on an interesting opportunity: "I've been asked to design a cover for a high-end graphics magazine that shows Linux. I'm looking for suggestions on how you would graphically illustrate the ideas that are the basis for Linux. I really want the reader to get a visual understanding of Linux just by looking at the cover. What would you do? " Hint: It needs a penguin.

230 comments

  1. don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Graphic design types are slaves to the Apple Macinstosh because their concept of computers is that ignorance is bliss. Does the world really need any more dumbed-down lusers? Let them keep their steenking Macs, and let Steve Jobs deal with the heat when his fans get stuck with BSD in the next major release. Besides, Linux doesn't support USB and FireWire, and they'd be scared to death of a mouse with as many as three buttons...

    1. Re:don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the best explanations of what I do - It's nice to see someone explain why not all Mac users are "nontechnical" just because we arent full time linux users... amen my brother!

    2. Re:don't bother by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2

      Ho ho ho. I can guess that you're not a designer. I am, though.

      Am I ignorant? No, I don't think so. I know a crapload about how my computer works, and I use windows and linux on a pretty regular basis, though not for work.

      I, like most designers, am extremely technical. I _HAVE_ to be. Programming is mostly conceptual work - get a clear idea of what you're doing and then type a lot. But programmers can use a tty if they have to and so IMHO they have it lucky.

      I have to pay attention to my color calibration; the mess of original files that have to get into the computer or adjusted so as to work well with others (slides, transparencies, photos, recreating lost originals, screened art...); font issues up the wazoo (I've probably memorized the appearance of a few thousand different faces by now); intercompatability between my software - Quark, PageMaker, Photoshop, Illustrator, Freehand - which is not just by vendor (Illustrator and Freehand HATE each other) but also version; maintain strict version control over the various files; preserve projects that can easily sit at a few hundred megs each for years and be able to get them working later, without pickled hardware or software; and output.

      It's output that's a real killer. Changing from RGB to Lab to CYMK and Pantone colorspaces. Screening. Going over the films, by hand, with a lupe to make sure everything's perfect. Making the fscking imagesetter and RIP are working, which is easily the most annoying thing I have ever had to do - I could kill a certian imagesetter company's employees without remorse. Dealing with film processing, which is not quite as automated as I'd like. Thank god I don't have to strip or make plates though.

      On top of all of this I have to be a good designer with an excellent sense of color, design, know the ins and outs of typography (like why Adobe deserves their status) as well as traditional paste up for comps and such.

      And, because stuck up people like you tend to work as admins, I have to keep all the hardware running perfectly by myself, keep track of viruses, bugs in the many many programs we use, administer LANs and learn enough about AppleScript programming to automate what I can.

      If I'm working in a print house (presently I am not) then 90% of the business of the company goes through me. Multimillion dollar presses sit idle if I'm not on time. Fortunately we have weeded out a lot of the PHBs in print, though the web is full of 'em.

      So I end up doing three jobs: Designer, Computer Operator and Sysadmin.

      I'm thanking god for MacOS X completely because it's based on BSD. I desperately want unix underpinnings for the Mac so that it won't be crash prone (which has more to do with flakey but unique software or a lack of maintenance than it does anything else). DPS will be very sweet.

      Linux, while also attractive, simply doesn't have the kind of software I need (Gimp is not usable for print yet, and there are a lot of patents so it probably won't ever be AFAIK) or else I'd be happy to switch.

      USB of course, other than for mickey mouse crap (keyboards, mice, tablets) is useless. Serious periperhals (scanners, some printers, disks) are SCSI. Firewire's nice, especially since it's hot-swappable (the biggest attraction for me) but I won't be using it for years, I'm sure.

      So please don't go thinking that Mac users - particularly graphic designers are stupid. We're not. Having to deal with people like you, we can't be.

      --
      -- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
    3. Re:don't bother by Jezza · · Score: 1

      We're really "with it" aren't we? I run Linux at, at work (my doing) and I recommend it. But I own a Mac (WHOA!) Am I some kinda WEIRDO? Well yes, but that's not the point. Point is plenty of people don't give a damn what their computer run or how it works - so what? Mac is a fine computer, it CAN run Linux, mine runs MacOS X Server (part time) and I think it's great. People like you HURT our cause - I don't want to see a Linux only universe, where could we get ideas from?

      As to the cover (the purpose if this) why not a Really nice graphic (of something) and simply the words: "Created with Linux". Or a screen shot of GIMP with the screen slightly unfinished and people (some in t-shirts & jeans, some in pyjamas, some in boxers) finishing it. Just an idea.

  2. Come on Cliff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really think this question is worthy? I mean for crying out loud, who the hell cares? I want to see informative stuff in the Ask Slashdot features. There are plenty of other places to post this kind of fluff.

    1. Re:Come on Cliff by SpamapS · · Score: 1

      If the Linux community(myself included) doesn't focus on an image, Linux will find itself running on computers in houses with Betamax VCR's... Don't discount how important an image is.

      --
      SpamapS -- Undernet #Linuxhelp
  3. it's true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    we sould really speed up development of Mozilla. But throwing more and more people on it won't help (ever read 'the mythical man-month'?)

    i also suggest spreading FUD on these proprietory web-extensions, simply because the web was designed as an open platform and it should stay open.

    I DEEPLY HATE Shockwave/Flash and Co. All these are just stupid, proprietory, sucking things...

  4. understanding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when does a magazine cover attempt to "graphically illustrate the ideas that are the basis for" anything? This calls for the KISS rule: Keep It Stupid, Simpleton! I say just go for a giant, menacingly cute penguin, ala the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.

    1. Re:understanding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As deputy editor of a magazine, I can confirm that you always try to get the front + title to sum op the meaning of the feature, actually.

  5. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a pengiun with a beowulf cluster?

  6. A penguin beating the crap out of Bill Gates... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It probably wouldn't make the cover, but it would be humorous nonetheless. Besides, with all of Microsoft's bashing of Linux that is in clear view of everyone, isn't it time the Linux community got to take a hit at the Microsoft chumps that was in more direct view of people then a Slashdot messageboard? (even if it is a cheesy blow)

  7. I have got the right cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A caricature of a penguin fucking in the ass Bill Gates. I think that will "graphically illustrate the ideas that are the basis for Linux". Well, not really. But it would be funny :)

    (Please somebody moderate me. Quick!)

  8. Penguin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates in his office, with the door locked, using X-Windows (with Penquin on it).

  9. One sugesstion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a picture of a penguin...made up of lots of little penguins. Like that artist (I forget the name) did?

    1. Re:One sugesstion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tux and Gimp walking around EC Esher's staircase with a back drop montage of screen shots from movies that have used Linux to some degree in the spcial effects rendering ( ie Titanic ) It would have to be nicely 3D'd so the stairs are dimensionally seperated from the montage...

  10. Gag Ball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have a picture of Gates with a gag-ball in his mouth slumped over the back of a sofa with a penguin standing behind him with its flipper wings on his hips.

    Make sure to depict some good hip movement on the penguin's part so you can really tell how bad Gate's is getting buggered.

  11. the ideal cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    show a bunch of whiny, overweight jerks slobbering over an outdated turd of an operating system. that represents the linux "revolution." b0rk

    1. Re:the ideal cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, most Linux programmers I know usually forget to eat because they're so wrapped up in what they're doing. Plus, with Linux you have to use the keyboard occasionally, unlike the "other" OS where their only exercise is in the wrist ... eh, ya...

  12. Under the hood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An indistinct but mechanical location.. could be a garage or a car dealership.. Around the side are a few cars, with hood oraments (that stand out) with logos of Microsoft, Sun, etc.. Near the edge of each of the cars hood are bulky latches (like you put on a toolshed), screwed haphazardly into the body, with heavy padlocks on them. In the center of the view, another car, with it's open, and a bright, clean engine. If you wish, Tux could be dressed as a mechanic and checking the oil or something.. This is how I explain open source to people. Sure, I tell them, you don't work on your own car. But do you really want your dealer to padlock your hood shut, and keep the only key?

  13. NO! NOT RODAN'S THINKER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to yell. I just had a flashback to a project marketing meeting where the Thinker was proposed as "something unique".

    I fought the idea, vainly. After shipping, customers would point out how overused The Thinker was and even proposed a different logo "the next time you print your box". ARGH!!!

  14. Don't forget GNU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering that 90% of the apps that make up Linux are GNU projects, you should mention GNU some how.

  15. The perfect cover pic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See:

    http://www.kmfms.com/

  16. Three Little Pigs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about recasting the three little pigs...

    Win95 = straw house
    WinNT = wood house
    Linux = Brick house with a penguin sitting in a cozy chair drinking cocoa.

  17. Culmination of the "OPEN PENGUIN" concept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the tradition of open source, here's a free compilation of the best of what I've seen in this list so far: A penguin carrying a bucket full of unlocked padlocks stands in a hallway. The Hall is occupied by a row of computers. The penguin has removed the padlocks from the first half and they now gleam: the other half are dank and gray and remain padlocked. The light for the hallway comes from a stained glass window at the end of the hall, which is shining on the unlocked computers. The window is designed like a window in the flavo of the X desktop.

  18. my mental picture... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tux... Wearing a leather pilot's helmet and goggles with a scarf wrapped losely around his neck driving a cart style open-cockpit (representing open-source) race car... He's blowing past a Bill Gates style geek driving a faster looking stock-car (the numbers 95& 98 crossed out on the side, 2000 penciled in) that is too burdened with bloated innards to really perform. There should be a crack in one of the windows (of course) and bandages covering some poorly implimented patches required because of previous crashes on Bill's car. Bits and bytes litter the track behind the cars (ones popping out of Tux's exhaust pipe, zeros out of Bills. Linus, Larry Elliason and other illuminaries could be cheering on from the stands, Cdr Taco and Hemos could be Tux's pit crew while a team of faceless sleep deprived programmers slave away in their cubicles as Bill's crew...

  19. two girls kissing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing sells media more than lesbians. Ask Howard Stern and David E. Kelley (producer behind Ally McBeal). dillrod

  20. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a penguin killed by a trident. :)

  21. Re:Tux in green, with a bow and arrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or alternatively, Bill Gates being bent over a server and anally violated by a giant penguin.

  22. Re:Covergirl Ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why not? They're very alike.

  23. A Patchwork Penguin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could portrey the nature of Linux by showing the contributions of various people from around the world. You could perhaps show different parts of Tux being assembled. It might be possible also to reflect the state of the two branches of kernel - one a more stable and one more experimental, perhaps one could be in "concrete" substance, and the other could have pieces missing. The experimental Tux would be likely to have more people working on it :)

  24. Re:Penguins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Agreed Tux blows as a mascot. He's ok amongst us Lin-folk but to the outside world he's a joke.

    Many Penguins (Emperors) in massive colony may express the Linux-thing to outsiders more effectively.

  25. Use a NEW drawing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you'll use Tux for the cover, DON'T use
    Larry's. It's not ugly or something, but everyone
    seems to use his Tux instead of drawing Tux doing
    something else than sitting. Remember that logo
    for the conference at Singapore? That's a nice
    variant. Create something new please!
    It's not Larry's version of Tux, it's just that
    it's not very original anymore to apply clothes
    and stuff to his Tux. Or perhaps a comical Linus
    behind a workstation or something.

  26. Honor the contributors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Build a composite out of distribution logos and thumbnails of contributors, and link them all together in a "network" theme.

    To truly represent the spirit of Linux, you need to show the social nature of its developers.

  27. yes but she was REALLY cute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen the pic. She drives me nuts.

  28. tux the thinker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i really dig the idea of an immense, monolithic
    Tux, being constructed by a legion of nerds or
    slaves or something, in Rodan's Thinker
    pose. That would rock.
    also maybe a few equally giant Tux frames
    scattering the background. by frames i mean like
    rebarb walls or something, like a screen.
    somehow portray the vastness of the whole scene
    and i think that would be dope. that is all.

  29. how about a hammer and sickle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    seems appropriate, no?

  30. THE KILLER LINUX GRAPHIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd have, in the style of 20'sish pre-fascist linear art a la Metropolis, countless numbers of brawny people passing gears and beams to each other, building a statue of a penguin. Look at Futurist art and Nitzer Ebb posters for inspiration.

  31. FLAMIN' HOT RODS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK HERES WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE RIGHT TUX IN THIS BIG BAD OLD 50's HOT ROD THATS ALL SOUPED UP RIGHT AND HES GONN BE RACIN' AND THE OTHER HOT ROD CAN HAVE A WINDOWS LOGO ON IT AND TUX CAN BE ALL ROCKABILLY'D OUT WITH SOME FLAMIN' SKULLS AND DICE!!!

  32. Transparent Cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not just have a transparent cover, allowing readers to see the inside?

  33. Re:Cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scene 1

    Naked chick, playmate 2000 sitting on top of Windows 2000 Datacenter Server box

    Ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh!

    How I want the ultra sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxy Windows 2000.

    That Linux thing is an ugly as your dad. Come on! Step up to the world of excitement. Who would you like to do today? *wink*

    It's so ohh so hottttttttttt!

    I don't want this on my karma :)

  34. How to portait Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An endless row of Tux the penguin marching over MS letters, which are forming the ground (small == sand, big ~ rocks). each Tux can hold a poster 'Open Software' or 'Linux -- Free The Software'
    I like this picture, as it depicts the grassroots approach of Linux (the endless row of tux -- hey we all are Tux :-) and each one is trampling on MS (or crushing MS).
    Anyway ... __Reimer

  35. Re:It's all in the Penguin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That first paragraph made me think of Pokemon ;)
    I hate those things ;)

    - Rei

  36. wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoa! That's the source to the kernel. I didn't even realize that till I looked at it closer the second time. Just makes it all the cooler. Maybe that's why M$ IE crashes when it tries to load it. ;)

  37. Poor baby, you have to do work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And in my personal experience, most graphics designers are dumb as dirt when it comes to computers, I'm not saying all, but the vast majority that I have dealt with in the past. Note, I'm not the original poster.

    1. Re:Poor baby, you have to do work. by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Hey, it's about as stressful as those 'netslave' guys. It's a world of deadlines. Lots of deadlines.

      I'm not trying to say that all of us are Knuth or anything. But none of the 100-150 or so designers I know are dumb about computers - after all 90% of dtp is computer-based now, and I can't think of anyone who prefered the old way, which still pops up a bit depending on how you do your comps.

      The main thing about designers is that since computers are just a tool, a way to get what we want accomplished, people will often find some way of doing something and stick with it. I once worked in a shop where after ~15-20 years the DEC PDP-11 they had used for layout finally died. The designers there were expert PDP operators but were still learning the Mac. The PDP had worked, so why change? While I personally enjoy noodling around with computers, this is probably what you're encountering: people who don't give a crap how it works, as long as it does work and can do what they need.

      --
      -- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
  38. moderate that post down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Dear Sir or Madam,

    If you've been using a mac for your entire career as a graphic designer, then you have probably wasted enough time to have written all the software you could have needed from scratch just during the time that your mac has spent rebooting.

    I don't see what the point of your post was supposed to be, nor does it make any sense to me why it has been moderated up.

    If other graphics designers are on the kind of weird power trip that you seem to be on, then it's no wonder that a lot of the graphics design work that I see really isn't that good. Also, gimp would be more than adequate to create graphic work of better quality than most of the junk that I see published.

    the first evidence of insanity is persistant mac use.

    1. Re:moderate that post down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note: Graphic design includes a lot more than drawing a picture and printing it out. Linux can't do these other things right now. IANAGD, but I use Macs a lot.

    2. Re:moderate that post down! by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4
      That's absolutely true. And it's 'sir.'

      Actually it's only true if I were: 1. A programmer, which I am not (try as I might, I'm just not good at it) 2. A really damn good programmer (even rarer than #1) 3. Could access all of the proprietary information required for good graphics software (like patented color matching systems)

      The point of my post was that designers are using Macs not because we're stupid - though there are always stupid people in every profession - but because Windows and Linux systems usually either don't offer what we want or offer too little to make changing systems attractive.

      I'm not on a power trip (although design has many practical applications - like forgery ;), at least I don't think so. But I don't like it when people tell me that I and my bretheren are dumbasses for using a practical solution, especially if the person saying that is unfamiliar with what we do in the first place.

      I'll tell you this, and this is a FACT, not opinion. Gimp, and Linux in general are really not useful for graphic designers.

      Really this is less important for Linux because the underlying OS is just a thing for us. It's not important, because we're really concerned with the applications. If Linux could run my software I'd switch.

      But the Gimp... non-graphic designers always wonder why we stick to Photoshop. The reason is because the Gimp is lacking in a number of key areas. Chief among these is that it has lousy color support.

      Sure it can display RGB color. That's about the last thing I need. Lab is a very good color space and last I heard it wasn't supported. This may have changed but it's not the really critical one. CYMK is totally absent from the Gimp AFAIK, as well as support for Pantone. Nothing in this country gets printed, in color, professionally without being in either CYMK (or a subset thereof) or in Pantone or once in a jillion years Hexachrome. NOTHING. That's just how things are for little reasons like chemistry and the color spectrum.

      This means that suddenly the Gimp is only useful for people making RGB or greyscale images. Very few people deal exclusively in those colorspaces. Web designers, while only concerned with RGB or greyscale output often have to convert other people's more complicated files and so there's little reason to adopt an incomplete solution just because it's there. Would you switch from Emacs (assuming you use it) to an editor without support for capital letters? Only if you're e. e. cummings.

      Since the Gimp is not sufficiently attractive to draw people to Linux all by itself, let's look at what else Linux is lacking:

      • Fonts
        Most shops have a really large investment in typefaces. Thousands of dollars of typefaces. Typically in Mac PostScript format, which may not lend itself to conversion to something Linux can use. If not, that's bad because it's of critical importance that everyone have the same fonts (or be able to use them) for about the same reasons that it's good for people writing software to rely on standard libraries and APIs. Only more so.
      • Layout
        The only layout program I know of for Unix is Framemaker, which is commercial and no longer being updated AFAIK. Plus it's more suitable towards books than single-page design, and is heavily weighted towards typesetting. TeX is for typesetting, not layout and while I'm told LaTeX has some simple layout functions it's probably not a good replacement for Quark.
      • Illustration
        Is there a good illo program for Linux? Something like Illustrator? I don't do vector when I can avoid it so I have not looked into this much. Still a vector program is an essential part of the desktop publisher's toolkit.
      • Misc apps There are a lot of little plug-ins and single-purpose apps out there. Some are drivers for exotic hardware like scanners or imagesetter RIPs. Others are like KPT Bryce or AlienSkin. I know people who depend heavily on these kinds of things and would stand on one leg if that's what it took to get them to work. Sure they could program their own, but few designers are also programmers. You want to get non-programmers using Linux, this is what you deal with.

      All of that stuff is critical. All of it is a problem for the designer who wants to use Linux exclusively. Since designers tend to not give a crap about the OS and just want tools that work (as I mentioned, I knew one shop that had been using a customized PDP-11 for ~15 years because that's what worked - at least until it couldn't be fixed) the Mac is a really attractive option. If standard commercial apps get ported over that will be much more of an inducement than the current offerings on Linux are.

      Me, I like Linux, BeOS, Mac... but only one is good for work right now. I'm painfully aware of how old the MacOS is which is why I'm looking forwards to MacOS X (which is based on BSD). Get my stuff working on Linux and I'll use that. It's not even a matter of preference right now.

      Mostly though I'm vocal on this subject because I just don't like ignorant bozos, no matter what OS they use, telling me that I'm an idiot even though I know what's up with the state of DTP and they don't. Non-designers have no right to talk to me that way.

      --
      -- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
  39. Re:A Herd of penguins.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, let's show people how Linux can destroy their business. I don't think I like that idea.

  40. Re:Cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like:

    Chick: Oh no it's Jizz Master Win2000!
    JMW2K: Hahah! And now we're going to get it on!

    ::::Tuxgazmo and OpenSource Boy crash through the wall::::

    Chick: It's Tuxgazmo!
    OS Boy: And OpenSource Boy!
    Tuxgazmo: Leave them alone JMW2K! I'll shoot you with my Tuxgazmorator!

    ::::Tuxgazmo shoots JMW2k::::

    JMW2k: Ohhhhhh ::::collapses::::
    Chick: Wow! And now let's have sex to repay you!

    Director: STUNT COCK!!!


    On the off chance that anyone knows what I'm talking about, Orgazmo is the stupidest movie ever. And if you're reading this saying "huh?" just DON'T WATCH Orgazmo :)

  41. design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps a caricature of Gates surrounded by a small, crumbling castle comprised of 0s and 1s next to a rowdy group of hackers and tux working on a big commune comprised of granite letters forming perl commands. Ideally, the 0s and 1s of Gates' castle would be decodable to something interesting such as "Death to Tux" and the perl commands would be a hack that's going to knock the castle down.

  42. simplicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it would be impossible to represent everything about linux on a magazine cover. So why not go for simplicity? LINUX The World is at your Command:$ A simple bash prompt with a potent message. Obviously this should all be written in some fancy 3d letters etc etc, but I would go with simplicity. Some would say this statement goes to far, but I kind of like hyperbole.

  43. absolut tux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why not look at some absolut vodka ads for ideas, but use the penguin instead of a bottle. or, you could always do one of those photomosaic things.

  44. Re:Penguins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'dbe a lot more careful about what they say if they had." --Linus

  45. 3D Penguin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a look at http://www.3dwizards.com/linux there is a cool penguin there (in 3D)

  46. A tough assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The trouble is that Linux really shines in a way that is beyond something that can be easily expressed with visuals. Much as I love Tux and what he stands for, visually he's kind of ungainly. Penguins are like that on land, but they fly in the water. So there's your visual metaphor: a swimming/diving penguin. Ungainly and awkward to the uninitiated, but once you get deeper into it, it really flies!

    A stretch, perhaps, but at least it's a start. Good luck.

  47. Re:Tux on the cover. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree.
    And saying "may the source be with you!"

  48. Re:MSIE will display it slowly if you wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MSIE does become unresponsive when you try to view that page, but if you're INCREDIBLY patient, you can eventually view it. At least I was able to...

  49. How about a jigsaw puzzle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could be a half completed puzzle of Tux with pieces scattered around. Some showing the reverse faces of the pieces that have things printed on them such as GIMP, Procmail, KDE, Windowmaker, and so on...

    This could emphasise the modularity of linux...

  50. How about a jigsaw puzzle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This could be a half completed puzzle of Tux with pieces scattered around.
    Some showing the reverse faces of the pieces that have things printed on them such as GIMP, Procmail, KDE, Windowmaker, and so on...

    This could emphasise the modularity of linux...

  51. linux on mag cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't know if this is original, or if i saw it somewhere, but here goes. Visualise in the forground three lines. The left line has people with cash in there fists headed to a Win NT counter. Picture stacks of money piled around this counter. The right line has the same idea but with unix. Both of these lines are bustling with customers. In the center is a small linux stand (like a childs lemonade stand)with a hand painted sign that says "free linux". The customers for this line are few but they are shown leaving the other two lines and walking toward the linux line with there money sticking out of there pockets rather than there fists. Behind the nt counter is a tall building with a MS figure at the top pounding his fist down on a desk with arrows eminating down from his fist thru to the lower floors that have hammer and anvils and on down to the ground floor that shows boxes with NT on the front coming out the side and winding over to the NT counter. On the right show the same thing but with UNIX figure on the top pounding the fist and unix boxes coming out. In the center directly behind the Linux stand show a small building (with linux flag on top)pushing boxes (with Penguins on the front) out the side leading down to the stand. Behind this building are a group of houses or other small buildings with hammers and anvils and arrows eminating from each toward the building with the flag. Hopefully this would depict the linux idea. Good luck!

  52. If you want impact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...just have a stylized pix of Tux with some elephant dung splattered on him. Hell, it worked for the NY art museum.

  53. I hope the point of linux is not JUST anti-MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From most of the comments here I get the idea that people think that the essence of linux is to bring down microsoft or other non-open source companies. Is this really the image you want? Why not try and promote linux for what it is, not what it isn't.

    1. Re:I hope the point of linux is not JUST anti-MS by romney · · Score: 1
      I never realized how 75% of the Linux community hates Bill Gates. It's not so much the company, but the attacks are directed directly at him. From all the responses, people have poked, prodded and the favorite, sodimized him.

      Do they really think that a national magazine would allow this on it's cover? MS is not the only OS out there. People never mention the other OS's like Solaris, Irix, AIX, Be, etc.

      It's not in the best interest of the community to bash other OS's. It's in the best interest to feature the ideas that make Linux different and unique.

      As for all the people out there that want "babes" on the cover. Go take "Advertising 101". Remember that there are more women in the world then men and we don't want to alienate them as a user base or more importantly in this context, as a magazine subscriber.

  54. easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Linux = open, cooperative, small (on features, but not on # of participants), internet-borne but above all .... challenging to the established player. So, from this:

    Central 'elements': big Windows logo to one side, surrounded by an army of little benguins of little penguins (tonnes of them) all of slightly different appearance - but all CLEARLY holding hands (err flippers?). Some way from the big windows logo, guarded in some way by the army of little penguins, you get a baby penguin that's bigger than the rest, but an infant (in diapers?). Behind this bigger one is an even bigger baby penguin but younger. Then on the edge of the image a massive baby penguin looking across at the windows logo.

    You'll want to add some background gfx to represent the internet (Ns, IE icons, I/Os, spider's web?, globe with signal streams, WWW in whacky 'tech'-looking fonts - all that stuff.

    mail me on xvf61@dial.pipex.com if I'm not being clear and I'll render a quick demo for you...

  55. a key element of linux is co-operation. Cover idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Idea is the linux penguin the Gnu Gnu wilber the Gimp + any other Mascot you can find. The Gimp will be painting on a canvas the pengin & the gnu could be handing him brushes & things as he is working on his master piece another Mascot maybe The KDE dragon could be desperatly trying to wire up a sound system - Gnu + penguin could be ready to hand things to the Dragon. Maybe even the Mozzila talking on a mobile phone. The emphasis here is that linux is realy a chaotic network influences. Things change here real fast but every one is working together. This could be the ideal environment for any creative type with some technical inclinations.

  56. a key element of linux is co-operation. Cover idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Idea is the linux penguin, the Gnu Gnu, wilber the Gimp + any other Mascot you can find. The Gimp will be painting on a canvas the pengin & the gnu could be handing him brushes & things as he is working on his master piece another Mascot maybe The KDE dragon could be desperatly trying to wire up a sound system - Gnu + penguin could be ready to hand things to the Dragon. Maybe even the Mozzila talking on a mobile phone. The emphasis here is that linux is realy a chaotic network influences. Things change here real fast but every one is working together. This could be the ideal environment for any creative type with some technical inclinations.

  57. Picture this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've been asked to design a cover for a high-end graphics magazine that shows Linux. I'm looking for suggestions on how you would graphically illustrate the ideas that are the basis for Linux. I really want the reader to get a visual understanding of Linux just by looking at the cover. What would you do?

    An ugly warty ruffian (recognisably bill gates) is wheeling a barrow full of tatty and grubby computers, all showing the Blue Screen Of Death. The computers are wrapped in chains, padlocks and barbed wire. He is outside the white picket fence of a well-kept house, one of a row. In the garden of the house, as in the gardens of the surrounding, houses, shiny happy people gather around a computer, with expressions of joy and awe. The computers are all joined to those in the neighbours' gardens, by obvious cables. The ruffian is outside, and cannot get in.

    Hint: It needs a penguin.

    Are you sure ?

  58. what about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Thousands of nerdy looking people praying and
    dancing around a golden pinguin????

    perhaps a bit zynical, but not that far off
    the truth....

    1. Re:what about this by locoluis · · Score: 1

      I don't agree. Linux is great, but is only a tool. No worship, no dance, no pray. Just using it is the thing we do with Linux. So I think a good design is to showing Linux in action, with people using its applications and getting results from that. That's the way we must deal with software in general, and Linux with its apps in particular.

  59. Yikes! Art about operating systems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    To paraphrase the late great Frank Zappa, painting about operating systems is like dancing about architecture. (Although a relative of mine did choreograph and perform a dance called "If You Can Mix Cement, You Can Make A Souffle"...)

    I'd suggest reading Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning Was the Command Line" for some ideas - I like his idea of the anarchic crowd in tents, RVs, Quonset huts, etc., all gathered to build tanks.

  60. Combine "real-life" and digital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How about an "obvious artist type" holding a laptop like a paint palette, standing in front of a standard canvas on a rack (that thingie that holds a painting in progress - grin).

    The computer screen has X running, with the GIMP logo up... He is dipping his paintbrush into the colors on the screen, implying use of GIMP to paint the "real-life" painting.

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  61. You want it too look sweet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Here is the idea. Have the penguin holding up the world like Atlas but have the entire image composed of code. Instead of filling the penguin with shades of color the penguin and the world will be shaped from lines of code. Kinda of like ascii art but shade and add colors to the letters.

    Then, behind this scene/in the background you can put Gimp/KDE/Redhat/Debian/Caldera/etc logos that are slightly transparent/faded.

    This will look sweet if done right.

  62. Re:Cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am dismayed to see that even to this day women are treated in such a disrepectful way. It is sad and discouraging that images such as these sets back years of progress in equality. As an outraged citizen, I would like to know where such a vile picture can be seen on the web, so that I may tape it on my computer to show the guys at the office an example of bigotry. I am keenly interested if it flagrantly displays a taut, tanned body and sexy, frilly exotic lingerie, especially in conjunction with hormone-pounding high-tech machinery. All in the name of righteous indigination, you understand. At any rate, perhaps someone may scan in this disreputable picture so we guys in the server room may educate ourselves and ponder on the negative effects of balantant stereotypes. In unspeakable rage- Derrick

  63. rendered tux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    sectioned partial render of Tux, i.e. 1 section wireframe, 1 section flatshade polys, 1 section gouraud shaded and blended polys (this section should be very high-poly, so as to look more polished than the previous areas; the top should look distinctly low-poly), then one section colored shaded, then one section textured. Side objects can include multiple users, with source on their monitors, and all connected to projectors, which are projecting the Tux image. This symbolizes many users are coming together to create Tux (and by analogy, Linux). Hope this helps, Kevin M. Lowe klowe1@purdue.edu

  64. Tux painting? by Bill+Henning · · Score: 1

    How about Tux painting? Or even Tux painging over windows? :-)

    I can just see it, Tux with a goatee, a french cap, standing before a canvas with an easel holding a paintbrush and a pallette. If anyone makes such a drawing send me a copy for AboutLinux.com...

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  65. Definitely an X screenshot by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1
    With: a picture of Tux, shown in the Gimp (2 birds with one stone), with Netscape & WordPerfect windows open, and one or two xterms (possibly with vi and/or emacs open in them).

    That way, (almost) everybody's happy...you've shown that Linux *does* have a desktop (and a command line), a good mix of open & commercial software, and a cute mascot :).

  66. Re:Covergirl Ideas by Danse · · Score: 1

    An explanation of why something is bad or wrong does not necessarily have to include FUD. FUD tends to come about when you don't have enough legitimate gripes about something.

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  67. Let's do this logically... by jd · · Score: 2
    "Ok, Spock, what do you think?"

    "Well, Captain, it would be logical for the artwork to depict the strengths of Linux, in a way that was clear to the reader."

    "What would you define as the strengths?"

    "The strengths are - ease-of-use, support for a wide range of systems, hot-loadable drivers, stability, speed, rapid maintenance, flexibility and control."

    "That's a lot to put on one cover picture. What would you suggest?"

    "A surreal picture, of a person replacing a clock part with something from the engine of an old car, with the caption of 'this'll be good for another fifty years."

    "Hmmmm.... That would be.... logical."

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  68. How about the Linux Image Montage Project? by sleeping+wolf · · Score: 1

    I think you should hook up with the guys on the Linux Image Montage Project and see what they could come up with to help out. That way, it would be open source. :-)

    1. Re:How about the Linux Image Montage Project? by Mr.+Me · · Score: 1

      This is definitely a good idea.

      The very nature of the LIMP emphasizes the collaborative nature of Linux, with thousands of people and organizations each working in their own way to improve it all the time. In this sense, I would consider it to be one of the best available visuals to represent Linux.
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  69. Tux in a zoo... by BluBrick · · Score: 1

    Of course Tux is sitting outside the cage labelled Linux which has has the bars bent open.


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  70. Re:Don't overkill the penguin by moonboy · · Score: 1

    I would second this and definitely emphasize the Internet somehow. In addition to the many people involved, we could not communicate as we have been able to and I don't think Linux would have grown as it has without it. This would also show that the growth of Linux has and is more of a worldwide effort.

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  71. Re:... by justo · · Score: 1
    it's because of bad html... no font closing tags!

    they want the browsers to be compliant to open standards, how about the authors ;)

  72. Depends on what the article says by memoryhole · · Score: 1

    ...but, if it says that (as it should) Linux is up and coming, but nowhere near as capable (graphically) as other systems, then you probably had best just go for something indicating that Tux has an artistic side. For example, Tux with a beret and a paint pallete painting something that looks suspiciously like the GIMP logo on his canvass - something to that effect. Or, you could put the MacOS logo on a pedestal, and have Tux painting a picture of it (MacOS being THE graphics OS, more or less).

  73. Re:Don't overkill the penguin by Nathan+Cassano · · Score: 1
    It's all about people. Not to get wierd on you :), but I believe that Linux is about giving power to people. Linux is about rebellion and defiance, an anathema to corruption (speak not of it getting corrupted itself) and a way to perpetuate good technology, in the face of technological and economic and marketing forces working against it.

    Continuing this theme a depiction of a revolution of freedom and renaissance coming from Linux Users would represent Linux well. Grab your history books and check out all of the adventitious art. Such as the national revoltutions and wars. Linux is more than an operating system. Linux is a product of a free thinking community that knowns no limitation. Like others have said shown the community. Show their intention, passion, and vision. Stress important fundementals such as innovation, support, security, freedom and openness. These are the roots that Linux was built upon.

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  74. This is about GRAPHICS, not Micros~1 by peter · · Score: 1

    How about a cover which shows a window from a high end graphics app (like blender, if that counts as high end). Standing next to the window is Tux holding an palette of paints, and he (/she?) is reaching into the window to draw the super-detailed cool thing which is being rendered. So Tux is doing the rendering :)

    idea version 2:
    I think it would be cool to take a real window dump from a graphics program, and leave the window borders in. Maybe even better would be to have a whole screen dump, showing a nice-looking desktop. Xfractint rendering a Mandelbrot fractal in one window, gimp in another window, editting Tux, and a large window covering parts of the others (so we know it is the important one) running blender. (or if you have access to some commercial super-cool program (like mentioned in LJ) use that). On top of the screen capture, draw a Tux standing on an xterm, and painting in the 3D window. Next to the Gimp window, another Tux (ooh, SMP :) holds a tile of raster graphics that he is about to put into the image of Tux being editted. For the 3D image being rendered/drawn by Tux, use a 3D tux, unless anyone has a better idea :)

    In response to all the suggestions to kick dirt at BG, keep in mind that this will be the cover of a high-end graphics mag. This is the domain of SGI and other Real Computer manufacturers, not Micros~1. The target audience is probably people who know what they are doing, and probably know all too well about NT.

    Tux rocks. If you don't like Tux, then draw a better logo yourself. I admit, he is a bit pudgier than I'd like to see, but I can't draw worth a damn, so I don't complain. (except for that last self contradictory sentence :)


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  75. Penguin-pixels by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    If you're catering to a U.S. audience, getting thousands of little penguins drawn by oodles of volunteers and arranging them into the statue of liberty... fine enough that from a few feet it looks like the statue, but when held in your hands all the little tiny penguins drawn by thousands of volunteers are quite visible.

    It all depends on what kind of resources are at your disposal.

    My original thought was to do the same with a visual representation of the internet, but it's a stretch of a claim, and I just couldn't think of an image which would be fitting.

  76. Re:Tux in green, with a bow and arrow by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

    ???

    1. MS has not got much to do with design. Hell, MS has nothing whatsoever to do with design other than torturing those of us who have to import Word into Quark or something.

    2. Adobe, while expensive, has earned it's place. PostScript is good. Photoshop is good. Illustrator is good. If anyone needs to be taken down a notch it's Quark.

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  77. Robotic Penguin.... by Red+Storm · · Score: 1

    How about a robotic penguin... Something where you another party is doin surgery on tux... It would ilustrate the ability for someone to really get under the hood of linux and change things... hmmm then there is the car motif... just a random musing...

    hmmm a penguin working on his car???

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  78. linux mascot group portrait by cthonious · · Score: 1

    gnu = the gnu gimp = wilbur linux = tux postgres = that elephant thing gnome = the foot kde = the dragon there must be dozens ... I think that would make good artwork; the use of mascots is something that cleanly separates the Free Software crowd. Also, the "linux movement" is more than just the linux kernel.

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  79. Re:Cover by cthonious · · Score: 1
    She's very cute ...

    You can see it Here. But the pic in the actual tarball looks better. Sorry for drooling.

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  80. don't forget... by unitron · · Score: 1
    ...to hide "LOIS" and the rabbit head in there somewhere.

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  81. Re:Don't overkill the penguin by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2
    Admittedly, Tux has been a great refinement of our view of Linux, but let's not overkill it. Some way to graphically portray people from all over the world, united by free software, seems more apt to cover Linux community

    You should have a hundred people standing together, wearing different coloured clothes, so that from a distance it looks like a picture of Tux. In other words, a crowd of people formed into the shape of a penguin.

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  82. My $.02 by neuroid · · Score: 1

    I'm seeing a Tux, sitting crosslegged, a hammer+chisel in his hands, looking at Michaelangelo's (sp!?) David.

  83. how about... by Gextyr · · Score: 1

    that cute KMFMS logo

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    *cough* I, uhh.. have copyrighted the "..." subject line on slashdot. Please discontinue your use of it at once. =)

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  85. musings ala Hacker's Tarot by cabbey · · Score: 1
    perhaps I've just been thinking about the Hacker's Tarot too much (some day I hope to illustrate them) but I can't help but think this is the kinda thing they're waiting for. For those not familiar I've tossed a copy on my homepage; I don't know the original author but they're truely a classic.

    general idea design idea
    basically the power of Linux is the open nature of the code, the distributed peer review, the flexibility of the development style and the wide range of people in the community. That's the secret to Linux... the community. the many hands of the community make lite work of the otherwise daunting.


    so then... here's my idea for the cover....
    • center: an old cast iron vault stands open, it's contents - thick reams of printout - spilling out in bathed in a soft golden light. the smashed remains of various insectoid life forms litter the floor upon which the vault sits.
    • surounding it: a diverse group of people surround the vault, they all view the revealed source with avid gazes. Streams of code flow between them to form a web of thought; which swats at a still remaining flying insect that has emerged from the source of revelation.
    • bordering them: iconic representations of the various tasks performed in Linux are depicted as jigsaw puzzels, the pieces are being placed by many different hands. Some pieces come from the people; some from out of frame.
    • background: montage of various pieces of code blends together into abstraction behind details, crystalizes into focus elsewhere.
    • a lower corner: beaten up old double hung casement window, paint peeling sits in shadows. cob webs have formed clearly showing neglect and lack of use, one pane is cracked - the shards lie below. The windows is chained shut with rusty chains, locked with a large padlock. the glass has slight tints of red, blue, green and yellow - it is dirty and opaque: none of the code in the background shows through.


    some various details:
    • the printouts in the vault are source code - given sufficient resolution it could be various portions of Linux. It is also possible that it could be in mixed media: hardcopy, tape, disk, CD, an editor window...

    • the people suroundding it should be recognizable... Linus must be there, as well as Alan, Eric and other luminaries of the Linux, Gnu, OSS world; equally important are complete anonymous unknown "Jon Q. Public" types. probably can go from shoulders up or so. folks like Bill Gates and Steve Balmer must not in any way be possible interpretations of any of them. There should be a good cross of gendre, ethnic and socio faces. (especially a good scarry biker beard and dark sunglass wearing Alan, and the mild manered geek next door-ish Linus in his specs).

    • the icons should be pixelated before being sliced into jigsaw pieces...they should also be generic enough to NOT look like any specific product. (the opposite would also be an idea... but then you're bound to leave someone out....) ideas for logos as follows:
      • an envelope with an email address on it
      • that "no clouds" picture of earth wrapped around a sphere, with "HTTP://" glowing like a firebrand
      • an abacuss
      • a typewritter
      • a painter's easle
      • a terminal window
      • a file cabinet
      • some documents on a silver tray
      • a brick wall with flames on one side and a scroll on the other (or a theif on one side and a pile of gold coins on the other)
      • . . .


    • the various mascots could go with either the people or the puzle pieces. tux, the bsd daemon, the gimp, shadow man, the suse gecko, the perl camel, the gnu...

    • The hands assembling the pieces, like the people should be a mix of people; a dainty feminine hand with manacured nails next to a knuckle sandwich maker with grime under the nails and hair on the knuckles; everything in between. (a robotic arm? a prosthetic hand?)

    • the code streams between the people should be both ascii and binary (hex??)

    • an alternate background would be the source as tux



    I know there are more details floating in my head... but it's been a long week and I'm tired... I'll post others tommorow if the thread's alive.
  86. 3 Ideas by Logger · · Score: 1

    Tux wearing a Kevlar "FUD" Vest, avoiding shot from a "very rich geek".

    Or, Tux or Linus climbing out of a computer monitor while "someone" tries to tell you to "pay no attention to the OS behind firewall".

    Or, dipict some companies trying to hold back the flood of open source software while others ride the wave. I think I particularly like this one. I'm picturing Tux wearing a red hat, carrying a green inflatable SUSE dinosaur (if that's what it is), and throwing a Debian logo marked frisbee, riding a surf board. Supporting OSS companies could be riding the wave too.

    Ryan

  87. that'd be a good background.... by Barbarian · · Score: 1

    ...for whatever else you show.

  88. Penguins by Freshman · · Score: 1

    I agree that you need a penguin on the cover, but why not go with something other than the "generic" penguin that linux is recognized by?

    Just a thought, I'm getting tired of that same old bird over and over.

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    1. Re:Penguins by zagmar · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the OT post, but anyone see Fight Club and make that association?
      "Slide!"

    2. Re:Penguins by keete · · Score: 1

      I'd agree... I'm from an area where penguins are distinctly leaner and more ferocious looking, (so. island new zealand), and the Tux mascot has always struck me as a bit insipid. A little too chunky, a little too harmless... there are lots of penguins out there. I'd like to see the slow introduction of a few more penguinish ones.

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    3. Re:Penguins by gammah · · Score: 1

      You know what? FUCK PENGUINS. And fuck anyone that thinks linux is best represented by one, especially in this case.

      ANYONE EVER HEARD OF **LINUS** here? He was around a little longer than the fucking penguin.

      I have to rant that most linux advocates can suck it. I use linux all day, and it's great, but most of you out there in the linux community are more interested in penguins and hating Microsoft than in making computers do really cool things.

      To keep this on point, you should visually represent linux in a meaningful, not cartoonish way. Things like Mosaic/Netscape, NCSA HTTPd/Apache, HOWTOs, C, Perl, kernel hacking, the GIMP [since it's a graphics mag cover we're talking about], the internet itself -- all these are things that have both boosted linux and been boosted by linux.

      PENGUINS ARE WINDOW DRESSING.

      Good luck with the cover.
      -g.

    4. Re:Penguins by osguzzler · · Score: 1

      Did you hear about the day Tux was driving through the Arizona desert at noon and his oil light came on. He pulled in at a roadside garage and left the car for the mechanic to look at and went to the joined-on diner. There was a big bowl of ice cream on the counter, which Tux, being from colder climes, found a godsend on this hot Arizona day. Of course, penguins don't manipulate spoons very well so he soon had a mess over his beak and chest but he didn't care since he was used to that. He finished and went back to see what the mechanic had found. The mechanic said, "Looks like you've blown a seal." "No, no," replied Tux, "it's just ice cream."

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  89. try the Linux Montage? by tuffy · · Score: 1

    Perhaps the Linux Montage would show the best aspects of Linux. Just a thought..

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  90. Just Linus by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

    Just put a picture of Linus on the cover. That seems to be what passes for innvoative design over at Linus Journal... errrrm... Linux Journal.

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  91. Design for your audience by Namaste · · Score: 1
    Since you will be the designer for this I let you decide what form your design takes, but here are few things you want to keep in mind.

    First who is your audience? (who is the magazine geared towards) "High-End Graphics" could mean many things, but unless this is magazine is geared towared the people doing scientific modeling and such I'm going to assume that this magazine is geard toward "artists" that are using computers as their tools. Most of these people don't know what "Tux" is and don't care what is "under the hood". They are more concerned with how it will allow them to do thier job with less problems. I would focus on representations of work flow, efficiency, and stability. Helios is a company that makes graphic environment workflow solutions that now has a linux port. Check them out and see what they have to say about their product.

    Linux as a publishing solution on the workstation side is still in its infancy (with the exception of high density manuals and long document (read Tex), but would excel as a server solution.

    If this magazine also has a readership that is in the animation industry, mabye some representation of the clustering solutions may be a an option you want to look at.

    Do a brainstorming session with word association.
    stability=solid=stone=granite=quarry=.......
    efficency=......
    cooperation=.....

    After a little session of this you will see words that will guide you in choosing metephorical representations of what you are trying to say.

    good luck and happy designing.

  92. picture by wall · · Score: 1

    How about "small world after all" theme with
    everyone holding hands, or 1000's of monkeys on
    pcs spewing code, or a zillion little stupid penguins on pcs, or (laugh) the communist manifesto with Karl Marx/Eric Raymond, etc...

    Are you creative or no? Its art, right?
    Do you really WANT art by commitee?

  93. Re:some hints by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    I'd be kewl to have big open windows with curtains blowing that looked out over a sea of code and a sky of www. Maybe have that as the image in a penguins eye and show only that 1/2 of it's head. I'd for sure make the penguin the background somehow. I'd go with a Zeus like end user posing at their computer as they play Q3 in the foreground. Maybe splash some Gimp, Gnome, KDE, etc around the edges of the scene.

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  94. MY IDEA by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    A Globe labeled "The Internet" sitting on top of a pillar labeled "Linux".

    1s and 0s swirling around the surface of the globe and streams of 1s and 0s on bolts of lightning streaming from the globe to the pillar.

    LK

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  95. Gimp Splashscreens are Funny by Kismet · · Score: 1

    Some of them, anyway. Why not put some of Gimp's art on there? Maybe a screenshot of Linux in action too.

    Or go for some abstract look portraying openness. But if it's a graphics mag, then we need to show off Linux's eye candy.

  96. penguin with... by josepha48 · · Score: 1
    Yes a penguin would be a good start. But Linux is more than penguins. Maybe a penguin with th eface of Linus and Alan and some of the other core developers hiddin in its body, or maybe use there faces to make a sort of collage that ends up looking like a penguin. Something that should show that Linux is not one person and not one country, and is made like the diversity that makes up the world.

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  97. Drowning in open source imagery by doom · · Score: 1

    I picture a open fountain, gushing water
    mixed with a torrent of punctuation marks
    (heavy on the semicolons and the curly braces,
    with some bars, slashes, hypens, angle
    brackets, etc). The source is open, get it?

    If you want, you could have a penguin swimming
    in the fountain. You could also add some other
    figures, like the FreeBSD demon and so on.
    (My inclination would be to take it easy on
    the cutsey stuff, though.)

    You can change the slant by turning it from a
    fountain to a kitchen sink, or a fire hydrant.
    Drowning Bill Gates under the torrent is an
    option.

    Floating a boat in the stream is another option.
    Linus torvalds at the helm?

  98. Re:MSIE doesn't display that page, NS will by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

    IE has a nice feature.

    I have no clue why it's not turned on by default.

    Open your Internet Options, go to Advanced and select "Browse in new process" for IE4, and "Launch browser windows as separate processes" for IE5.

    Once you do that, the browser detaches itself from the OS and you can kill it without killing anything else.

    This tip is brought to you by the site admin of PCTIPS.com :-)
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  99. Re:Purple penguins all in my brain... by vrazhumin · · Score: 1

    Jimi's strat was a right-handed instrument. He flipped the nut re-strung it, and played it "upside down."

    I'm being anal, aren't I?

  100. Free Penguin - Prisoners of the Gates Castle by Flu · · Score: 1
    How about a dark castle of Gates compared to the free meadows of Linux as the main theme?

    Above the castle, dark skies, thunderbolts etc, promoting the evil, are visible. (For ideas, see the Iron Maiden album "Killers").

    The almost only thing visible thing of the castle are the Large, Fierce Walls surrounding it, with the silhouette of Our Great Enemy (Bill) in a window of the highest tower, maybe counting lots of money. In the middle are a pair of Iron Gates, through which line after line of cloned (or at least identically looking) windowz user can be sighted. On the tower, a very torn, dark and dirty flag wawes in the wind. The flag is - of course - the Windows flag... :-)

    Behind the lines, in the celler of the castle is a small window visible, through which a torture chamber is visible. In the chamber, the silhouette of Duke (the Java symbol) hangs side by side with a penguine and a human.

    Outside of the castle, the sun is shining, a rainbow is visible in the distance, the meadows are green, butterflies are flying and everyone are happy. "Everyone" are of course some Penguins, each being an individual, most occupied with their own hobby (painting, playing an instrument (with someone selling tickets for the show), writing on a scroll, examining a chart on a computer screen, talking on a cellular phone), but some are helping each other or are involved in a discussion, or listening to a lecture.

    This is my main idea of a theme, promoting the freedom, individualism and friendship amongst Linux users, comparing it to the "slavery" and strictly business-without-afterthought-on-the-impact-of-the -individual-users-or-professionals idea of the extremely commercialized windows business.

    Of cource it will require some afterthougth on which details to ommit to be able to display the main "theme", even though more background details will make it more fun for us non-Windows fans to watch. :-)

    /Fredrik

  101. One word: by blankley · · Score: 1

    Dustpuppy

    (or is that two?...)

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  102. Tux by SpacePunk · · Score: 1

    Just show tux crapping on a couple of MS and Apple logo's.

  103. Tux on the cover. by alfredo · · Score: 1

    Have ol Tux reaching out of the monitor to shake the hand of the user. I think that best describes the relationship between Linux and the user.


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  104. Covergirl Ideas by Kagenin · · Score: 3

    Have a cover of the GIMP Mascot drawing a target on Adobe's Logo. Even better when Paired w/ a Gimp article. If you don't think a target is shocking enough, you could have him doing a very unclean act to it.

    Another Idea - A Tux penguin with a Rocket Launcher from Quake III: Arena. Nothing yells 'HIGH END GRAPHICS' like Quake3.

    Kagenin

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    1. Re:Covergirl Ideas by spartan · · Score: 1
      I would not feature Tux at all. It may be a cute mascot of sorts as others have mentioned, but certainly it will not communicate to the masses what Linux is about. It might make your task much more difficult, but the Penguin is a no-brainer easy way out.

      The image should focus on the positive aspects of Linux and disregard, completely, Adobe, MS, or other software publishers who do not support Linux.

      I mean, if the arguments for using Linux have to include a discourse on why something else is bad or wrong in order to convince someone to use Linux, then isn't that just giving FUD to those the community argues uses FUD themselves?

      I've got to think that most of you are a little more innovative than that and that a good image of Linux can be created that rests on its own merits.

    2. Re:Covergirl Ideas by Hobbex · · Score: 1


      Quake3 is low-end graphics. High-end gaming maybe, but when was last time a high-end CAD rendering had models with 1-2000 ploys.

      Graphics that are being rendered in real time on home PCs 60 times per second are by definition not high end.

      -
      /. is like a steer's horns, a point here, a point there and a lot of bull in between.

  105. Re:Hmmm... How about: by QuMa · · Score: 1

    Yeah, right. Everybdoy agrees on which editor is best of course :-)

  106. One idea by schporto · · Score: 1

    Although not nessecarily what you may be looking for. Some of those magaznie readers may like it. A picture of Tux on a ladder climbing up into clouds (or something). Have a little SGI type logo in the ladder (seeing as how SGI is high end graphics and is helping linux). Then have a horde of people helping hold the ladder up. So with RedHat's, some are lizards, some are umm curly q's, I think you get the idea. Actually might as well carve some Intel, Alpha, AMD logos on the ladder too.
    Of course this might not be what you are looking for cuz it might say that Linux isn't there yet. But then again Linux isn't. Nor will it ever be. Someone will always add something to it.
    -cpd

  107. Linux Magazine in Vermont and new linux zine! by dayeight · · Score: 1

    I'm a vermont town of 15k people (going to bennington college) and the local news shop carries Linux MAgazine (though no linux journal in site) So odd.

    Still looking forward to maximumlinux. http://www.maximumlinux.com/

  108. Groovin' penguin by Mr+T · · Score: 1

    I've been seeing this animated groovin' pengiun wearing sunglasses. It's raytraced. Make it a bunch bigger and then put a special paper cover on the 'zine that has that ridged plastic animation effect like the toys that come in cracker-jacks. So you can tile the cover from side to side and watch the penguin groove. Cool and retro.

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  109. Re:GIMP! by Seanasy · · Score: 1

    I'll add my support the reply above. The GIMP is a far, far cry from being anywhere near as good as Photoshop.

    Yes, the GIMP is neat and free. Script-fu is brilliant. But if you think the GIMP's interface is better than Photoshop's you've probably only seen Photoshop on Windows. The fault there is Windows not Photoshop. On a Mac, Photoshop is still far superior to anything else -- especially the GIMP.

    I like the GIMP and use it at home. However, a professional graphic artist -- who needs to do pre-press, who needs complementary vector graphics tools, who needs to work efficiently and intuitively -- would never get by with the GIMP/Linux.

  110. Think "proactive" by for(;;); · · Score: 1
    Remember, any decent page layout involves a maximum of info-stimulation. Perhaps Tux could be surfing...with a skateboard...on the moon! And fisting a goat! No, wait, scratch that. Spiking a football! Yeah, extreme! And the words "Open Source In-your-face POSIX-conformance 2DX-TREME!!!!!" should be written somewhere.


    But for god's sake, whatever you do, don't go with a simple, tasteful design that subtly conveys professionalism.
    Doctors amputate Turkish earthquake survivor's arm [This story contains video]

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  111. Cover Ideas - Show them the source by WNight · · Score: 1

    Have a background, or a light overlay, of the kernel source (or, a small hunk of it.) Showing whatever graphics, maybe a busy X desktop with the GIMP and other 'neat' apps open, over a background of the source.

    After all, the apps and stuff are all there because it's open source. Everything neat about GNU/Linux is because it's open source. So make the source a prominent part of the picture.

    If it was done well, it would show up fairly well on the solid colors, and be lost in the details. Enough to let people see it and recognize it (oh, source code... good idea) without dominating the picture and annoying the PHBs.

  112. First Millenguins by SEWilco · · Score: 2

    A million penguins typing on a million networked computers.

    1. Re:First Millenguins by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > A million penguins typing on a million networked computers Eventually will come out with the source code for windows? Nah, nothing's that stupid.

  113. Re:Penguin rampant on BSOD by SEWilco · · Score: 2
    "Rampant" is often used in heraldry. I suppose a Linux Coat of Arms is a possibility.
    • Perhaps with Linus on the crest
    • Tux head as a helmet
    • Cox as the supporter on the left
    • Gates as the supporter on the right (an unwilling supporter, but he's helped a lot)
    • Need a motto. Through Freedom, Strength?
    • In the shield...
      • a magnifying glass over, or crossed with, a scroll
      • crossed wrench and screwdriver
      • ...what else?
  114. Re:Penguin rampant on BSOD by SEWilco · · Score: 2

    A garland, around the shield, of woven coaxial and 10BaseT cable with connectors dangling down?
    Put Linus' Doctorate mortarboard on his head?

  115. A zoo? A circus? A menagerie! by Hava · · Score: 1

    With the number of animals used as logos, why not make a zoo or a circus, and have users walking around, pointing, showing their children, sketching/taking notes (on laptops), feeding the animals, have Linus Torvalds as the friendly zookeeper, and various other zookeepers (programmers) taking care of the animals (hint, hint: open source), and maybe have a big entrance gate "outlining" the whole scene, so that it's like, the reader of the magazine is invited in...
    I would buy that magazine just for the cover. :)
    What magazine is this for, anyway?

  116. Don't overkill the penguin by debrain · · Score: 4
    Admittedly, Tux has been a great refinement of our view of Linux, but let's not overkill it. Some way to graphically portray people from all over the world, united by free software, seems more apt to cover Linux community, rather than Tux, which seems symbolic of Linux software.

    Then there are some twists -- like throwing in how this is pulling away from the corporate philosophy of profit, and moving towards the philanthropic philosophy of most members of this community

    The penguin is an idol -- it's a nice single-symbol entity that Linux is reflected in. But it does not portray much real information about what Linux is.

    It's all about people. Not to get wierd on you :), but I believe that Linux is about giving power to people. Linux is about rebellion and defiance, an anathema to corruption (speak not of it getting corrupted itself) and a way to perpetuate good technology, in the face of technological and economic and marketing forces working against it.

    It's a philosophy. It is poetic justice.

  117. Just remembered a poster I saw years ago by Jimhotep · · Score: 1

    I saw a poster years ago about the next
    generation of computers.

    It was like a 3d bar chart comparing the US to
    Japan in the race. The US bar was much higher. People (men) where drawn on top of each bar.
    The Americans where fighting each other, like
    king of the hill stuff. The Japanese where standing on each others shoulders.

    Funny, haven't thought about that picture in years.

  118. Brand recognition by harmonica · · Score: 1

    I would not feature Tux at all. It may be a cute mascot of sorts as others have mentioned, but certainly it will not communicate to the masses what Linux is about. It might make your task much more difficult, but the Penguin is a no-brainer easy way out.
    It's great that the penguin has been established as a mascot for Linux and it should be used whenever possible. Marketing strategists spend lots of money on coming up with a symbol people are gonna recognize. That doesn't mean Tux has to be the center of attention on such a cover, and it would be great if not the exact same image of Tux would be used over and over again as it is the case (look at the ads of a Linux-related magazine and you'll find a gazillion copies of that EPS(?!) file). However, people with a computer background will recognize the penguin-Linux connection immediately, and covers are about getting the attention of someone looking at it. You can hardly start elaborating on Linux' stability etc. on the cover of a magazine! If there is a cute penguin, alright, that's a beginning. Maybe the network aspect could be emphasized somehow.

    1. Re:Brand recognition by spartan · · Score: 1
      Ah yes, of course, Brand Recognition. A very good objective.

      Still, a more subtle presentation of Tux would be desireable, rather than just big and bold in the center. It's a tough task, to convey all the positive uses for the OS in an image.

  119. Tux in a garage by Wah · · Score: 2

    or walking out of it. Make the house be your typical suburbia image. Illustrate graphically that Linux has come from the Virtual Garages of thousands of worldwide developers. "The Next Big Thing" is overused but text to that effect would be nice. "The Ensuing Large Object" or sum such.

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  120. Hmmm... How about: by Mr_Plow · · Score: 1

    You know, there are so many window managers out there, you don't want to get slammed for endorsing one over the other.

    How 'bout a plain, command-line session of VI, world's most exquisite "word processor." That always makes *me* think of Linux, anyway. ;-)
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  121. Re:Cover by Mr_Plow · · Score: 1

    Hmmm. Playgeek? Pictures of naked women endorsing computer products. On second thought, scratch that... it's really disturbing and makes me feel bad that I thought of it. I've been bad, and should be punished.
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  122. penguins are good but.... by drama · · Score: 1

    I like the idea of having penguins, but we are people (despite what some of you may think ;-)

    How about a bunch of people at a rally. The shot is facing the stage, so all you see is a bunch of heads crowded together, hands in the air, general commotion.

    On the stage is a Peguin, perhaps behind a podium, or even better yet, in front of some huge flag and wearing a uniform (sorta like in Patton).

    Well? :-)
    -peace

  123. Something profound. by CabanaBoy · · Score: 1

    Maybe on of these ideas would suffice...

    I'm thinking less of how one captures the software's mojo in an image, than how to capture that of the GNU/Linux community. Much like the late Power Computing's extremist advertising for their Mac clones ("You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers from the mouse", and so on).

    1- The image of Tux cloned and overlaid into what looks like a legion of penguins marching in a column. Headline reads, "It Takes a Budget of Trillions to Hold Us Back." (Possibly "Marketing Budget of Billions"). Highly representative of the legions of GNU/Linux faithful. Bound to piss someone off.

    2- The image of Tux, inside a circle formed from the logos of industry heavyweights (IBM and so forth) who have recently jumped on the bandwagon, adding momentum. A little too obvious, but it's highly representative of GNU/Linux's move from finge to mainstream OS.

    3- The _most_ obvious thing would be a screenshot of sorts. Picking the X-Window manager is going to be tough, but KDE or GNOME would seem the most topical (GNOME especially). A focus on interface niceties like menus and icons is necessary, as is multimedia (read: Netscape, XMMS, and GIMP). Maybe a nice Office suite. A transparent terminal window with the ridiculously-long system uptime, maybe. *How* to fit this all onto a magazine cover is outside of the scope of this posting! =:)

  124. Traditional ways... by DoktorMel · · Score: 1

    A penguin, a gnu, and Linus Torvalds smoking cigars and playing poker.

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  125. Distro Circus by crypton · · Score: 1

    How about a Ferris wheel with a distro logo in each seat and linus at the control lever with a penguin behind him about to bite him on the butt.Various other logo characters could be trying to climb over the fence and up the side of the wheel while it's moving. The circus motif is rife with applicable character sources? Suggestions for clown? ringmaster? human cannonball?

    1. Re:Distro Circus by crypton · · Score: 1

      Sorry - double post.

  126. Distro Circus by crypton · · Score: 1

    How about a Ferris wheel with a distro logo in each seat and linus at the control lever with a penguin behind him about to bite him on the butt.Various other logo characters could be trying to climb over the fence and up the side of the wheel while it's moving. The circus motif is rife with applicable character sources: suggestions for clown? ringmaster? human cannonball?

  127. Re:Penguin rampant on BSOD by funcused · · Score: 1

    Being drawn in the GIMP with other programs in the background.

  128. Suggestions by Frankus · · Score: 1

    How 'bout involving a cathedral and a bazaar?

    Maybe pictures of them being edited in the GIMP.

    Or is just a screenshot lame?

    -Frank

  129. I picture Frazetta... by stickyc · · Score: 1

    A mountain of embattled coders, keyboard/swords held high in celebration atop piles of defeated Windoze boxes, and at the very pinnacle of the mountain, an over-the-top-Conan-looking Penguin, CD distro held high, the sun shining off it... All surrounded by peasants, gleefully picking up free CDs :)

  130. Re:GIMP! by HerrNewton · · Score: 2

    This is going to be labeled flamebait, but the Gimp is not superior to Photoshop--nonexistant/poor support for process color, color calibration, pantone, etc. Don't get me wrong--Gimp is a great image editor, but before I can use it for production, it needs to be more pre-press friendly.

    (The reminds me, wasn't someone porting Gimp to Be? I haven't used Be in so long, I've lost touch...)

    Just my 2px...


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  131. The real essense of Linux is people by overshoot · · Score: 2

    Focus on that. Thousands of people all working together, no giants. Maybe an aerial shot of a LOT of people in a field, collectively in the shape of a penguin.

    Shouldn't be too hard to do with graphics composition, should it?

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  132. Cover by GMontag · · Score: 1

    I saw a great picture of a cute chick, wearing ladies briefs, standing in front of a Cray. The panties said Linux on the band.

    You could have the code of the teardrop hack "tattooed" on her tight little body.

  133. Penguin rampant on BSOD by pq · · Score: 1

    A penguin rampant, using a chalkboard eraser to wipe out the blue screen of death. That sums it up neatly, don't you think?

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    "I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."
    1. Re:Penguin rampant on BSOD by dozing · · Score: 1

      I like where this idea is going. How about a penguin taking a hammer to a window with the BSOD on it. Since we've got a window, how about we add in the open door with Binary 1's and 0's from the first reply. While we're incorperating other posts let's use the penguin with the rocket launcher instead of a hammer.

      Or maybe a "ten ton gorilla" with the BSOD grafted to it's surface, and the penguin could pin it to the ground... (Or we could add in the rocket launcher again, and blow the gorilla's head off)

      Dozing,
      http://www.dozings.com/
      "Just because I said it, doesn't mean i'm responsible"

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  134. Tux in green, with a bow and arrow by georgeha · · Score: 2

    While Sheriff Adobe, Microsoft and Apple hold up a struggling graphic artist.

    "Arghh, take from the poor graphic artists and give to King Gates!"

    George

  135. do-gooding claymation? by georgeha · · Score: 2

    You mean that old claymation cartoon with the dog and the boy.

    "Hey Goliath, do you think we should write a competitor to Windows?"

    "Aw gee, Davey, I don't know, is that right?"

    George

  136. Tux Liberty by MtnMan1021 · · Score: 1

    idea:
    a nice rendering of the tux penguin in a lady liberty stance holding your favorite distro's box instead of the tablet.
    Not sure what to place the torch with.
    Any ideas?
    Lady liberty represents stability, reliability, and freedom.

    just a suggestion
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  137. Linux by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    To me, and for people unfamiliar with Linux, I don't think Linux's strengths is adquately described by a penguin or any other anecdotal picture. What I would like to show people about linux is that it is amazingly sound, and stable, but at the same time has a humongous bevy of fervent supporters, programmers/coders, contributers, debuggers...a rich community. I think the community needs to be stressed. People don't USE Linux, the community GAINS people.

    I don't know maybe a slide-procession showing a sheet of paper with some diagrams, code, cookie crumbles and coffee. The next slide is a PC with a console prompt. The next slide is a depiction of a vast global network superimposed with Q3 screenshots, productivity apps, web browser, etc.
    Sort of cartoon like, showing the community culture and how it made Linux come to fruition.

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    1. Re:Linux by at0m · · Score: 1
      I agree totally. A penguin shows nothing about linux to someone who doesn't know about linux. I'm not sure what the precise purpose of the cover is, but if any of the audience is going to be non-linux users, a penguin as the sole representation of linux is not the way to go. You could incorporate a penguin into a more complex design, but a big tux on the cover of a magazine wouldn't prove much to me :)

      I realize this only tells you what NOT to do, not what TO do... I'll try to think of something, but at this point you have 140 other ideas to work with :)

      "Then I'll tell the truth. We're allowed to do that in emergencies."

  138. How about this? by Mr.+Blonde · · Score: 1

    I threw it together about 4 months ago.

  139. How about this? by Mr.+Blonde · · Score: 1

    http://www.beachdogsoftware.com/tux-bong3.png I threw it together about 4 months ago.

  140. I am OZ (OS) the great and powerful... by ronfar · · Score: 1

    Show a penguin in that room in the Emerald City before the great and powerful OS, which would look just like the great and powerful (and scary) Wizard of OZ. The penguin would be looking behind the curtain at the little man pulling all the levers and turning all the knobs. What is the picture illustrating? That when you understand the concepts behind and OS, programming it isn't so intimidating (i.e. Open Source). Maybe put a sign on the booth that says, "source code."

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  141. It's all in the Penguin by omarius · · Score: 2
    A Penguin. . . a BIIIIIIG penguin leading a band of little demons and gnus and swirls and secret agents in red hats and geeks and girls and bears and bees and lispy-macs, troming through a land of beautiful flowers and happy programmers! Whee!

    But WAIT. Off in the distance, near that daark and forboding mountain. . . the RED MOUND. . . thousands of evil Denizens pouring out of the DREAD GATES of HELL, er, I mean, BILL!

    But WAIT AGAIN! The good GNUs are taking up arms! The PENGUIN RALLIETH THEM FORTH! Armageddon? Is this the FINAL BATTLE? Is that the VOICE of the ELDER GOD DOJ raining from the HEAVENS?

    The DENIZENS RUSH FORWARD, to CRUSH the lowly ones! But see how their kludgey swords BREAK! See how they CRASH! Our Stalwart Heroes Fight On!

    The battle RAGETH STILL!

    Put that on the cover. :-)-~

    -Omar

  142. definitely a spanking.. by ikekrull · · Score: 1

    Tux giving Bill Gates a good spanking is the obvious choice. I think having bill gate's lilly-white ass getting enthusiastically caned by the penguin is the only really appropriate way to illustrate anything linux-related.

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  143. Tux breaking out. by gregm · · Score: 1

    Capture an X windows Desktop with the following image being created with the Gimp. Tux is chained to a wall in a dark and depressing dungeon. The chains that bind him are made up of the micrsoft windows logo and the apple logo. Tus has just broken free and the little windows and apple logo links are falling to the floor.

    Or Tux is standing at the top of a bunch of steps (if there are any buildings in Redmond that fit this description that's be a plus for anyone who recognized it) with a huge throng of people below cheering. It's a nice sunshiny day and Tux is tosssing out free copies of Debian, Redhat, Suse, Caldera etc.

    Or Tux is trying desperately to push his way through a bunch of evil-looking guys in dark suits who're holding him back to get to the families, kids, etc. on the other side while wearing a Santa Claus suit with a bag full distros. The guys holding him back should be riot police with a microsoft logo on them and Tux should be almost free of them. There could be black microsoft helicopters flying above Apple tanks etc.


  144. Imagination Engineering by KDubuisson · · Score: 1

    You need to have a penguin sitting at a computer desk in the workplace. This penguin needs to have on headphones with music blaring and tennis shoes that are not tied. Behind the desk, on the wall, is a dart board with Bill Gates at the primary target and the flights on three arrows are the logos for RedHat, Caldera, and Suse. Also on the wall is a frame with needlepoint in it that says "Gnome sweet Gnome".

    On the desk there needs to be a large coffee cup with "Open Source Rules!" on it that is sitting right next to a Dreamcast game machine. Oh, and don't forget to put Slashdot's home page on the computer monitor.

    Just a few things I brainstormed about (way too much coffee today).

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  145. The R&D lab by frank2 · · Score: 1

    I'd suggest a large room with a very large PC (relative to the penguins) being tinkered on "under the hood". Some penguins would be in the room looking at long computer printouts, other penguins would be standing next to penguins connected to the internet, some penguins would be changing ROM's. etc. Basically a large group activity showing collaboration, R&D, and overhaul.

  146. Magazine Cover by a2fan · · Score: 1

    Remember those Peanuts cartoons where Lucy yanks the ball away from Charlie Brown at the very last moment? AAARRRGH!!!

    I can envision Tux pulling the ball away from a distraught Bill Gates... makes for a good visual metaphor, IMHO.

  147. I've got it by DerMarlboro · · Score: 1

    I've got it. Two bikini-clad penguins rubbing suntan lotion on Bob Young as he sips a margarita.

  148. Linux Cover by ajedgar · · Score: 1

    There are lots of good ideas here for the main focus of the cover art.

    Here's an idea for the background of the cover. Have different types and and configurations of "Tuxen" carrying out varried tasks and functions.

    For example a gaggle of Tuxen representing a Beowolf cluster; a Tux working with Apache to hand out "pages"; little tiny Tuxen diving into PDA's, set-top boxes, cell-phones, and medical equipment; a tired looking Tux handing files and printing stuff for Windoze 95/98/NT clients, etc...

    You get the idea.

    --aj

  149. The Linux image montage project
    http://linux.remotepoint.com/

    I'm not sure how the limp people feel about
    it getting used directly on a cover, but I
    imagine a nice E theme with one of the LIMP
    pre-release images open in a Mozilla window, a
    Gimp, and a few other things up.

    The great thing about LIMP is that it conveys
    how all the various independant (Linus's kernel,
    BSD and GNU utilities, the contribution of the
    verious hardware and commercial distro vendors)
    contribute to the whole, which is bigger than
    the sum of it's parts.

  150. "open" source by pblalock · · Score: 1

    Perhaps Tux could stand there holding a door open for the viewer, behind the OPEN door could be something that looks like code...

    1. Re:"open" source by ukyoCE · · Score: 1

      How about even more approiately, have the penguin opening a WINDOW, letting glorious light shine into a dark room, or to a beautiful view outside, or something to that effect. I.e. stop using WINDOWs, go OPEN source, and the world gets better.
      Which may be an exageration, but its funner that way :)

  151. I already seen that before... by locoluis · · Score: 1

    ...at KMFMS and on a french Linux site.

  152. Purple penguins all in my brain... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2
    A Tie-dye wearing Tux playing a left-handed strat a la Jimi Hendrix. You can play with all sorts of colors and support the 'power to the people' message. Go for the tech 60's revival.

    A giant Tux, in space, sitting on the Earth, like its a penguin egg ready to hatch. Ooo, I like that one. Maybe you can use one of those famous 'whole earth' photos.

    Tux and the Gates and Jobs holding up three identical pictures with their respective computers in the background. Under the photos you can list out Labor cost, Software cost, OS costs,etc...

    Bah, If I had my way it would be Tux taking a flamethrower to Redmond, which is why I'd make a terrible graphic designer.

    1. Re:Purple penguins all in my brain... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2
      Yeah that's right, or upsidedown right. Baha, puns.
      That reminds me of this Hendrix compilation album I saw where they inversed the picture of Jimi so he's playing right handed. It was pretty funny, I haven't seen that cover in a long time. Hopefully someone caught on. Though Fender did make a lefty guitar for Jimi, but I'm not sure I've ever seen him play it live.

      And to remain on topic: How about Tux as the judge for the DoJ trial with him slamming down the gavel and yelling, "Guilty!"

  153. HeHe by Rabbins · · Score: 1

    How 'bout a bar slut?

    Free to use and open to all :)

  154. Oh, come on moderators :) by Rabbins · · Score: 1

    Thousands of people ooing and aahing over a huge pile of shit on an elevated tower.

    Every time I try and picture this I crack up.
    Hah!

  155. An Idea / Offtopic by Zombie_Magick · · Score: 0

    Check out Brute! Propaganda Site for KMFMS. Now given that it belongs to someone else but I just wanted people to see it. Cuz Aidan Hughes is too cool!

  156. Stick to the features by blazer1024 · · Score: 3

    The penguin is nice, but it doesn't really tell you anything about Linux. (Does linux need a cold room to work?) You need something that illustrates it's features and or it's versatility.

    Show something somewhat abstract looking, like a small network diagram, with an overlapped screen shot of the GIMP working on a colorful photo. Throw in some command line stuff showing server configuring and it's Un*x like style, then show some clips of a word processor and a browser displaying a nice web page. Then top it off with a tad of 3D images, in a freely available modeller, or some such, and throw all that together into a beautiful peice of artwork. Show off features, rather than just a penguin. (If you put Tux in, throw him one of the screen shots, like an embedded graphic in the word processor or something.)

    Well, those are my ideas. If you need any help, don't hesitate to e-mail me. :)

  157. blender? other utils? by bendawg · · Score: 1

    There are some other decent utilities, such as blender and xpovray that you might think about as well.

  158. A Herd of penguins.. by doc_brown · · Score: 1

    How about a herd of penguins tearing down a large coperation?

  159. Re:some hints by doc_brown · · Score: 1


    How about a penguin in the classis thinker pose that is being assembled by hundreds of small people?

  160. Bend over Bill by penguinicide · · Score: 1

    A penguin standing behind Bill Gates bent over...

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  161. Bend over Mr. Paperclip by chthonic · · Score: 1

    I think you should have Tux doing something nasty to the MS Office mascot.

  162. Re:... by waters · · Score: 1

    I'm at work where I'm required to use Windoze95 and Internet Exploder (no Linux isn't an option here). I've tried to view that page three times now. I get a little bit of it and then IE5 freezes (locked solid). I end-tasked it twice and it did the same thing. The third time, it brought down the whole OS. Luckily everything was saved (you learn to do that alot on Win95).

    I'll look at it tonight on my Linux machine.

  163. some hints by mistalinux · · Score: 1
    Obviously a picture of Tux would need to be on there, and possibly:

    1. Something showing "openness". Possibly the open part of the cover could be the background of the cover.

    2. The thinker. `nuff said about that

    3. A globe. You know what Linus says, "World domination" :)

    4. A brain. Could possibly go with the thinker statue.

    OR:

    A large picture of a penguin holding the earth in its (flippers|hands|wings).

    Keep micros~1 out of it though. It's not needed anymore. Really :)

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  164. ellipsis by TheKodiak · · Score: 1

    i regret to inform you that i have patented the method of copyrighting subject lines. please contact me so that we can work out an agreement to license your use of my patented technology.

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  165. I've got it! by TheKodiak · · Score: 1

    Use the text of this discussion! It's open source graphic design!

    Mmm, nummy.

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  166. ... by TheKodiak · · Score: 2

    If you can get your hands on the rights to http://rio.dhs.org/penguin.html, I think that would be great. You can't argue that it doesn't "Show Linux".

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    1. Re:... by judith · · Score: 1

      That is BEAUTIFUL!!! Not a background, just by itself! The shading is incredible! we all sat around and oohed and ahhhed here for several minutes. -(Including our Art Director)

  167. Well... by jonnythan · · Score: 1

    A big picture of Tux would certainly be inappropriate. However, having a cover-sized shape of Tux, but filled with the said types of graphics would be great. Tux has to be there, but it has the be in the background or subtle. Draw an outline of Tux, being sure to make the shape recognizable, but...graphics depicting the personal and free elements of Linux inside would be fabulous :) Good luck..do us proud.

  168. xbill by Houseman · · Score: 1

    why not just a screenshot...
    of gnome and e
    and of course have.. xbill presant.
    and maybe gimp open... and also
    gqview viewing pictures of sarah michelle geller.

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  169. Life in the fast lane? by stem · · Score: 1

    Top down view on a three-lane highway:

    CmdrTaco and Hemos are with about eight people in a 1969 Dodge Dart convertible (with a penguin on the hood) speeding down the left lane. They're passing a 40 year old man in a suit standing, staring at his "Windows Logo" bearing Lotus that's crashed into the guardrail abutting the slow lane.

    And, Stallman is pulling his moped over to hand the "suit" a copy of Debian...

    -Mike

  170. first post by cooperj72 · · Score: 0

    A million systems with programmers connected to the penguin

  171. HOW ABOUT DAVID AND GOLIATH by emanon · · Score: 1

    Way Cool! How about the penguin in the foreground surrounded by free (gnu) stones of various distributions of Linux and free (gnu) quality applications (gimp, etc.) slinging a copy of linux at the various hardware and software vendors who surround a goliath sized Microsoft, covered with ugly bugs being hit and falling down. Just what came into my mind :).

  172. Suggestion by timothyb · · Score: 1

    I think an open box stenciled in, with a penguin peeking over the edge, is the smart choice.

    The penguin could be reading a book of C code.

  173. Re:DEEP HATE by LocalYokel · · Score: 1

    Shockwave has its place, just like AOL -- if you can find a way to duplicate its capabilities with existing web standards, please enlighten me. I'm not much of a Shockwave user, though I sometimes pay that bowling game at shockwave.com to kill time at work.

    If there is anything more evil than Satan himself, it's JavaScript. In the case of Shockwave, it's pretty necessary and that's the way it goes -- if you don't like it, don't use it (just like AOL).

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  174. Litter the screen by astrophysics · · Score: 1

    Have tons of windows, top should should it using more memory than it has and uptime should be years.

  175. A 'meta-drawing'? by hypatia · · Score: 1

    Disclamier: I have no understanding of visual design principles, so I don't know whether this would be effective in terms of balance etc...

    but...

    how 'bout something along the lines of n hackers co-operatively adding to/ fixing/colouring in/copying a freely distributable illustration of Tux?

  176. CoverPenguin Ideas by chadmulligan · · Score: 1
    Sounds easy.

    An enormous penguin, rendered with ASCII in various colors, parts of the statue are unfinished at certain points, allowing one to glimpse Linus-faced figures inside, frantically typing at (obviously mouse-less) terminals.

    Around the statue, masses of mindless /.ers kowtow and offer sacrifice...

    A tunnel is shown being dug underneath the idol, with Gates-faced sappers readying dynamite charges.

    At one side, a puzzled user is being interviewed by a reporter, asking "...but does it run WordStar?"

    Any coincidence is just a resemblance ;-)

  177. GIMP! by Mr.+Penguin · · Score: 1

    I think that the most important thing that you should incorporate should be GIMP. Why? There are several reasons.

    Superiority. GIMP is better than Photoshop, mainly because of things like Script-Fu.

    Ease of Use. GIMP is much easier to use than Photoshop.

    Attractiveness. GIMP is capable of making extremely beautiful graphics.

    Freedom. Remember that the spirit and point of Open Source is freedom. Freedom to see the code, freedom to use it, and freedom to change it. GIMP can only get better.

    Right now, GIMP is one of the best things that Linux has going for it (besides Apache), and it is definately the most user-friendly program on the OS.
    Brad Johnson
    Advisory Editor

  178. nuts - you beat me to it by Col.+Panic · · Score: 1

    How about tux with a transparent skull and code inside - maybe colums of digits like that effect from the Matrix.

  179. share, and play fair by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

    How about something like a caricature of Gates (and other well known closed-source ppl) with arms wrapped protectively around a poorly wrapped gift, showing unwillingness to share, even though what they got ain't that great. Amidst them all, perhaps pushing the others out of the way, is Tux with a shiny, nicely wrapped present held out toward the reader. Perhaps marching behind/alongside are some other OSS mascots, to show that we're all in it together but Linux sort of leads the way (in many ppl's minds it does).

    Hope this helps spark an idea.

    CT

  180. linux on a mag by eel · · Score: 1

    How bout that damned penguin being skewerd bye the FreeBSD Daemon!! But seriously if it is for a graphics mag, not an internet mag as most of these responces seem to think try a well known high end graphics worstating with "Tux" on the screan (an SGI with that flat panel would be a good choice)

  181. OK - my idea by Blakflag · · Score: 1

    for a graphics magazine cover -

    Picture of a woman or man standing in the Southwest desert on a clear day, carving a large Tux out of wood or some material. All this is imprinted on the screen of a SGI workstation, in the Gimp. The same artist is at the workstation editing this image.

    This outlines the openness, flexibility and power of Linux in the graphics world.

    Plus it'll look cool.

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  182. my eleet idea by Jizmak · · Score: 0

    i say get a chick who has big breastesses and a purty vergina with not to beat up pussylips dan kaminsky's mom might be interested

  183. Tux by dragontails · · Score: 1

    A stylized mean looking Tux wiping his butt/feet with the Microsoft flag? ;) Althoguh I agree with whomever said that using Tux is probably the easy way out. How about an Egghead shopping cart full of software all with big price stickers that say $0.00 or FREE!

  184. how about... by liNA-seven-nine · · Score: 1

    a design of pengiun with a trace of Hellblazer. Example. it sure is cool. it almost rival the bsd deamon thingies.

    don't tell me that you graphic designer do not know how to do it. g.d do not need to know arts...you just need to exploit one.

    heck! let me do it.


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  185. Concept: Building a community by Hurricane_Bill · · Score: 1

    How about a group of penguins collaborating to build an igloo. Thru the opening of the igloo, you can see binary numbers/sample code. In the very distant background, you can have a collage of skyscrapers.

    (Penguins are building a community outside of the mainstream/cities, working together to build cool technology.)

  186. Penguin Theme and World Domination by Tailhook · · Score: 1

    Earlier someone advanced the idea of a penguin holding the planet in
    it's wings. This is a good idea; It illustrates the mascot and
    conveys a World Domination theme, and provides an opportunity to
    create an image with impact.

    There is something important missing in this theme however. It misses
    the freedom aspect of Linux and Open Source. Perhaps this could be
    introduced through a traveling aspect; `Tux on a rocket.' Tux, the
    world held high above on one wing, staring intently into the oncoming
    future.

    Anyhow, you asked. :)

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  187. consider: by unit-6 · · Score: 1

    Linux was created by a thousand people, most of whom have never and will never meet each other. This is what makes linux so damn cool. Illustrating this concept could be done in many ways. consider: A number of heads facing away from each oher connected in some way. perhaps by streams of energy or something. have you ever seen the norman rockwell painting "freedom of speech"? appeared on the february 20, 1943 saturday evening post? It's got a real community feel to it, basically it consists of of a man standing up speaking his mind while his community looks on. This idea, that Linux is a community effort is the sort of thing I think that you want to convey. Have a picture of Linus and Tux standing on Steve Job's and Bill Gates heads. The more blood here, the better. Have a picture of Cindy Margolis and Soledad O'Brien having a water fight wearing cuttof jeans and slashdot t-shirts. Nothin says lovin like big breasted hotties in wet tshirts. Farm out the contract to me, I need the work. Have an image of Her Royal Majesty the Queen of England standing in a fountain holding a copy of Red Hat. Wearing a Red Hat. Non sequitur is the king of attention getters. 6

  188. A rebel theme by jw3 · · Score: 1
    How about a rebel X-Wing, with the Tux sitting in place of the R2D2 robot, with a "Linux powerd" signed on the side, and a title "May the Source be with you"?

    Here is a nice example on how I image the main motive in the picture: a side view of an X-Wing

    . Regards,

    January

  189. cover by bencc99 · · Score: 0

    It's gotta be tux the penguin ;-)

  190. Time to get the asbestos suit on... by SnuggleBunny · · Score: 1

    How about one of those pictures of webs made by spiders dosed up on drugs(heroin, speed, alcohol, caffeine etc) ie a tangled incomplete mess? I think that this would perfectly symbolize the relevancy of Linux to 'high-end graphics' professionals..........I look forward to the ranting of Linux bigots with no experience whatsoever of profesional graphics work.(More enlightened Linux advocates may simply take this post as a humorous dig at those who champion GIMP et al without ever having used commercial alternatives:).

  191. evolution/creation ideas by MattMann · · Score: 1
    I like ideas that show that open source grows and evolves from it's openness... I'm just going to stream ideas here, to see if they trigger anybody else to think of any more... these don't all work admittedly, but it's brainstorming, not blamestorming... so...

    something based on that familiar sequence of fish walking out of the water and progressively turning into an ape, then into a man, except this time into a penguin, except this time all the creatures are "leonardo-esque" line-drawings that show their "design", i.e. open source.

    other leonardo-based ideas, show leonardo alive today coding opensource. or then-and-now: machiavelli and leonardo. now: gates and collection of linus, stallman, etc. hey, how about leonardo evolves into a hacker, machievelli into gates?

    some allegory based on opensource people standing on the shoulders of giants. maybe the closed source giants shrugging people off, or the people don't have instructions to climb up. or a high jump or height competition where you can cooperate and build on what/who came before, or you can't. BTW, I like the .sig I once saw, "if I have not seen as far as some others it is because I stand in the footprints of giants." :)

    how about closed-source leonardo's notebook where the bird's wings are moving too fast so you can't see how it flies, or you see water pumping but you can't why... illustrate other "great ideas" from science history closed up: a world where the wheel was closed source and it's primitive and dominated by Microwheel, while another world is open and also has gears and clocks and cds and other round things

    or, the escher hand drawing a hand, except indicate that it's programming, not drawing...

    or some other escheresque open architecture where the building is populated by programmers but as it winds around it gets more "better" because it can build on itself. perhaps against a backdrop of a flat, proprietary closed landscape of pretty things, but things that are broken because they can't be fixed.

    or, some take-off on the famous Apple commercials, all of the lemmings, except instead of falling off the cliff, they are smiling happily and walking onto a giant pyramid of cooperating lemmings...

    or biblical tower of microsoft/sun/oracle babel barely getting off the ground as seen from the top of the successfully towering opensource ivory tower...

    how about a picture of the rosetta stone, except add more panels to it, keep translating more languages until you eventually get some opensource code. show people using it productively while there are a bunch of other folks as slaves to hooded figures casting very confusing microsoft spells at stonehenge.

    show apes like at the beginning of 2001, jumping around ineffectually in front of MSDN cd-roms while, while fully evolved humans do something more meaningful with obelisks of opensource code

    show the end of the planet of the apes, except sticking up out of the ground is the remnants of microsoft, oracle and sun, and the apes are the dunces still using proprietary software

    show some cathedral v. bazaar allegory (if you get it right, maybe I'd understand it finally) with bill gates sitting on a big pile of money with employees waiting to kiss his ring, but like a political cartoon, show the original ideas that he stole (yep, every single one of em) sticking out of his pockets. show a big crowd in front purchasing, but people around the fringe of that crowd are starting to notice all the nicer free stuff coming from a many new sources.

    several big complicated rube goldberg designs that don't work but it's not obvious why to the users because they're closed. then, some opensource rube goldberg designs that are progressively and transparently copied and made better. Rube Goldberg designs are a good example of algorithms that average people can understand, and only because they are opensource.

    the proprietary emperor has no clothes, but the prescient little kid is an opensource hacker

    johnny appleseed comes to mind as a "giving" figure who left behind stuff that grew.

    "new yorker's view of the US" map, except now it's proprietary software view of the world where every thing in the foreground is owned and the distance is barren, vs. the opensource view, where the latter landscape has lots of happy people sharing as far as the eye can see.

    opensource movement as the american revolution in the face of various imperial forms of government (sorry, all you ferners reading slashdot, but this is the world's oldest democracy, where the modern ideas of freedom first took root) where all governments had a bill of rights but the non-democratic kept it a secret. soviet union as closed source bill of rights? how about closed source 10 commandments? hmm... they are closed source.

    ok, my ideas are getting lousier (regardless of where they started) so I'll quit while I'm still ahead... of where I will be if I keep going.

  192. the closed-source wheel by MattMann · · Score: 1
    the best idea in that previous post was: present a picture of the world where the wheel was closed source, and owned and dominated by one company. Also show an open-source wheel world where all sorts of round refinements exist: gears, clocks, disks, etc.

    reposted to make it easy to see.

  193. closed source leonardo's notebook by MattMann · · Score: 1
    the second best idea from that previous post was a closed source leonardo's notebook where you can see what everything does but you can't see how it works.

    reposted to make it easy to see. hey, another idea popped into my head: Fermat's last theorem was closed source and look what a mess that turned into.

  194. put your desktop on the cover! by myc · · Score: 1

    run a nifty-looking KDE or E/GNOME desktop, and screen capture it. You could have a wordperfect or staroffice word processing window open, with the captions for all the leading stories in it, a GIMP or ee window open with Tux in it, etc etc. Open a GNOME panel drawer with all the spiffy looking subfolders in it, each one corresponding to a article header in that issue. Also have a netscape window open, pointed to linux.org or something. Shows off the funtionality of Linux quite well, as well as the GUI eyecandy. Myc

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  195. Images That Communicate by Tradewars+Addict · · Score: 1

    The whole idea is to use images that communicate well to the public the positive elements of Linux, and the open source community

    While the Linux penguin will not communicate to the broad masses, it should be included someplace, even if discretely as a trademark symbol. The majority of the imagery should communicate the basic idea of open source and community construction.

    So, here is my stab at this ....

    The image of an open door is a good image. It should be fairly close to the door, so that you see most of the outside image.

    A Nice touch (tm) would be if the door had a small four paneled window in it. The panels of the windows should be dingy or colored glass, with one of the panels broken. The window is not an emphasized element of the picture. It is merely secondary, as an appropriate dig.

    Looking out the door you see a picture of a town or city under contruction. An obviously vibrant community working together to build a village/town/city/castle/spaceport/etc. that is a thing of beauty. All of the inhabitants can be penguins, or there can be a topiary in that shape, etc. or else subtly included in the shapes of the design.

    the majority of the art is in the depiction of the village/city/castle/spaceport/etc. Alot of fun can be had here.

    a variation of this is looking out through a broken window of a castle - looking out over the scene below. This has pluses and minusses as well

    based on the idea of penguins workers: a subtitle can be something like:

    "Watch out for the Penguins"

  196. MSIE doesn't display that page, NS will by avij · · Score: 1
    I'd suggest viewing that page with Netscape. MSIE5 did the same thing for me (with WinNT4), but Netscape 4.7 displayed that page correctly. Seems like the HTML was too complex for MSIE to display properly.. oh well, what else could I expect..

    That "picture" was very impressive, congratulations to the one who converted the original picture to HTML.

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  197. Liberty by imr · · Score: 1

    What about a penguin , if you absolutly need one ,dressed with the statue of Liberty clothes? It doesn t have to be Tux if you don t want "him" to be seen as a drag-queen .... Has he got a female friend already ???

  198. here's an idea by cornholiom · · Score: 1

    use the image found on this web site. Or something similar. http://www.kmfms.com/

  199. Say ya wanna revolution. by JojoLinkyBob · · Score: 1

    Here's an idea: Flock of penguins, horded together as a revolution army to thwart the oppressing nemesis, Microsoft (Waving flags bearing the upside down windows logo)...Caption: March to Redmond...or something....

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  200. tux as a stork || tux as godzilla w/ gnu sidekick by cousin+birdo · · Score: 1

    - tux as a stork, delivering a bundle of source code - good idea to have both Tux /and/ a gnu on the cover. The more-mainstream media coverage of Linux so far has largely ignored GNU's role. - Maybe tux could be riding a gnu (can gnus be ridden?) - as a variation on the ghostbusters giant stay-puft marshmallow man, you could have a portrayal of a giant Tux and the gnu coming out of the ocean, like Godzilla and his friend (whatever his name is...) Instead of the little people fleeing in terror, they could be erecting a big banner and rolling out the welcome mat.

  201. tux as a stork || tux as godzilla w/ gnu sidekick by cousin+birdo · · Score: 1

    - tux as a stork, delivering a bundle of source code

    - good idea to have both Tux /and/ a gnu on the cover. The more-mainstream media coverage of Linux so far has largely ignored GNU's role.

    - Maybe tux could be riding a gnu (can gnus be ridden?)

    - as a variation on the ghostbusters giant stay-puft marshmallow man, you could have a portrayal of a giant Tux and the gnu coming out of the ocean, like Godzilla and his friend (whatever his name is...) Instead of the little people fleeing in terror, they could be erecting a big banner and rolling out the welcome mat.

  202. Linux is a space station by ROLEKILL · · Score: 1

    Isn't that logical spock? You know with the kernel as the heart an the shells as docks etc

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  203. it's all about people by nicnacs · · Score: 1
    A cover idea:

    How about a crowd of people stretching their hands towards a single shining point: a glowing Tux- the beloved mascot. This shows both the growing popularity of Linux as well as the open source community of developpers which made Linux possible.

    Use a creative way to represent the mass of people -- this way bringing home the message that your magazine is about high end graphics.

    Tip: Linux is not about a penguin. It's about people who give freely of their time so they can enjoy computers.