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Yeah, like IMDB...

It's not in the Wayback Machine, but Google has cached the article.

The real manipulation was the feds on the AIAG.. but TREAD RFID is also quite shockingly real. Why dont you please look at these following links and read all my extracted highlights here in this post:

Goodyear, Michelin and other tire manufacturers are claiming TREAD is the reason they are forced to put in spy RFID transmitter chips in all tires... not whims. A bylaw document addendum for TREAD is merely one strongarm tactic by feds that aided it to be fully adopted. AIAG manipulation was another.

Goodyear RFID tires from TREAD :
SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Tires have to have a unique identification number called a DOT number," he said. "Cars have a vehicle identification number. Under the TREAD Act, carmakers have to associate the unique number on each tire with the VIN of the car it's put on. RFID offers a cheaper way to do that association

web source : http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/122 3/1/1/

Michelin RFID tires from TREAD :

SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"The tire industry faces regulatory pressures from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration requiring tire companies to monitor pressure and temperature in tires as part of the Tread Act, a much-publicized law passed in 2000 in response to the rollovers of Ford Motor Co.'s Explorers equipped with certain Firestone tires. The Tread Act states that the vehicle identification numbers must correlate with the Department of Transportation's number for the tire."

web source : http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:NKrAuVWpXksJ:w ww.internetweek.com/allStories/showArticle.jhtml%3 FarticleID%3D49901229+%2B%22tread+act%22+%2Btires+ %2Brfid&hl=en

Industry and TREAD RFID ..

SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:

"There are no industry-based automotive mandates out there today. Perhaps the only exception to this is the Tire TREAD Act in which RFID is specified as a method of identifying tires supplied to OEMs. The U.S. Congress passed the TREAD (Transportation, Recall, Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation) Act after the Firestone/Ford Explorer issues emerged. The act mandates that carmakers closely track tires from the 2004 model year on, so they can be recalled if there is a problem. "

web source : http://www.zebra.com/id/zebra/na/en/index/rfid/faq s/rfid_considerations_specific_industries.html

Industry abd RFID TREAD :
SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"For example, Michelin and Goodyear plan to use RFID to aid their compliance with the Transportation, Recall Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation (TREAD) Act."

web source : http://www.fawcette.com/wss/2003_10/magazine/colum ns/trends/

Notice a theme ? Instead of blaming AIAG these tire companies blame TREAD federal law compliance for the RFID tracking chips in all passenger tires. Read those links, you government shill.

And next, you will start claiming the products dont work well on highways.

Here is a meticulous research PDF paper entitled "Test Report : Single-lane Vehicle identification with UHF RFID"

http://www.ipico.co.za/technology/Whitepapers/Sing le-lane%20EVI%20Test%20Report%2020030618.pdf

And that shows a LOW POWER 4 watt reader at a height of 5.7 meters (18.7 feet) above a passive RFID coil product can read at speeds of 160 km/h for common tollway type RFID. The feds buy >4watt readers and also use better gear.

I love the naysayers.

njyoder you ar wrong! TREAD is real.

Goodyear, Michelin and other tire manufacturers are claiming TREAD is the reason they are forced to put in spy RFID transmitter chips in all tires... not whims. A bylaw document addendum for TREAD is merely one strongarm tactic by feds that aided it to be fully adopted. AIAG manipulation was another.

Goodyear RFID tires from TREAD :
SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"Tires have to have a unique identification number called a DOT number," he said. "Cars have a vehicle identification number. Under the TREAD Act, carmakers have to associate the unique number on each tire with the VIN of the car it's put on. RFID offers a cheaper way to do that association

web source : http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/122 3/1/1/

Michelin RFID tires from TREAD :
SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"The tire industry faces regulatory pressures from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration requiring tire companies to monitor pressure and temperature in tires as part of the Tread Act, a much-publicized law passed in 2000 in response to the rollovers of Ford Motor Co.'s Explorers equipped with certain Firestone tires. The Tread Act states that the vehicle identification numbers must correlate with the Department of Transportation's number for the tire."

web source : http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:NKrAuVWpXksJ:w ww.internetweek.com/allStories/showArticle.jhtml%3 FarticleID%3D49901229+%2B%22tread+act%22+%2Btires+ %2Brfid&hl=en

Industry and TREAD RFID ..
SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:

"There are no industry-based automotive mandates out there today. Perhaps the only exception to this is the Tire TREAD Act in which RFID is specified as a method of identifying tires supplied to OEMs. The U.S. Congress passed the TREAD (Transportation, Recall, Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation) Act after the Firestone/Ford Explorer issues emerged. The act mandates that carmakers closely track tires from the 2004 model year on, so they can be recalled if there is a problem. "

web source : http://www.zebra.com/id/zebra/na/en/index/rfid/faq s/rfid_considerations_specific_industries.html

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SNIPPET QUOTE EXCERPT:
"For example, Michelin and Goodyear plan to use RFID to aid their compliance with the Transportation, Recall Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation (TREAD) Act."

web source : http://www.fawcette.com/wss/2003_10/magazine/colum ns/trends/

You are probably an FBI shill for wanting to FACTUAL INFORMATIVE mod the post to -1 like it was 4 out of five times before... all using the feds shill accounts.

njyoder, If you have a fact to dispute then post your facts! Otherwise read and learn! The feds aready scan car tires on the roads.

Did you even READ this post, did you even read the other? or are you a sock puppet account for the FBI?

Just for fun: ZipZoomFly currently lists a Athlon XP 3200+ at $259 (OEM).

This is really dangerous territory here, because retail prices are not the same as manufacturing costs. In manufacturing costs, you make a deal with the parts provider. He's usually hoping to sell you a few tens of thousand to a few hundred thousand units. If you tell him that you need to purchase millions of units, he's going to cut you the best deal he can so that you don't get the part from someone else.

Now from a recent article, we know that Intel's actual costs are ~$40 a chip. This gives us a more reasonable starting point. We can probably tack on another $10 since IBM isn't Intel. That gives us a guessitmation base cost of $50 for IBM. Now if IBM wants to convince Microsoft of using their chips instead of Intel's, they're going to want to provide as good of a price as possible. Let's say that they go for $90 a chip. (That's actually high given our previous assumptions, but it gives us more wiggle room for error. Especially since the XBOX uses a tri-core.)

Now let's say that ATI has similar costs and offers a similar chip. We're at about $180 for the both of them. Or $5 north of my original guesstimate.

Let's say, for fun, that a three-core 3.2ghz power PC costs the same as a one-core 3.2ghz (equivalent) Athlon XP. Which of course it doesn't.

It doesn't, but it's also a bad assumption that it costs significantly more. One of the reasons for multicore designs is that they can simply etch more silicon to produce a more powerful chip than having to package more CPUs and PINs. i.e. Silicon wires don't cost anything. Pins do. Sure, their yeild won't be as high due to the larger silicon wafers, but don't count on the chips being that much bigger. According to this info on the PS3 cell (which actually has more cores than the XBOX) is 221mm^2 in size. According to this page, the Pentium IV is 146mm^2. That increase is pretty impressive when you realize that the Cell chip has 8 sub-processors in addition to the main processor. The Pentium D, btw, has a die size of 206mm^2, and it only has *two* cores.

So in the end, the chips probably don't cost as much as you think they do.

If you wanna see some old white people get their panties in a twist, you should have seen what happened at my school a year and a half back. Years ago, this kid was going a project with the principal to make a computer map of the school, and after the kid spent all his time looking around, drawing blueprints, whatever kids did back in those days, the project was scrapped. So using the maps he had, he released a mod for Duke Nukem 3D that was set in the school. Couple years later, the blubbering vagina squad that is the media found this and went completely fucking nuts. Site is down but here's google's cache http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:1Ht9jH_-UAEJ:k dka.com/specialreports/local_story_140181158.html+ allderdeath&hl=en Interviews at school, whiny kids talking about how "they don't feel safe". Going to an inner-city public school, walking through metal detectors every morning, and still hearing about gang violence and kids getting shot, and it's a video game that compromises their sense of safety. It just makes me think "if only some of these people had been a blow job..."

A better comparison was at
www.asymptomatic.net/blogbreakdown.htm

Unfortunately the site is down, but you can check the Google cache still

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Du2NeIh3jzkJ:w ww.asymptomatic.net/blogbreakdown.htm+blog+compari son&hl=en

The blog breakdown in this article is pretty lame compared to this one, which covers

b2Evolution,bBlog, BLOG:CMS, Blojsom, Blosxom, Expression Engine,MovableType, Nucleus, Pivot, pMachine Pro, Serendipity, SPIP, .Text, TextPattern, and WordPress.

One thing to remember is that Drupal, Mambo, ezPublish etc are CMS packages not really blog software.

Seems to be offline but here's the google cache link if you're interested: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:zQLM8Fs0lo8J:c a.geocities.com/infringements%40rogers.com/+Louise tte+Lanteigne&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Her Webpage

Since she's on geocities and this trounced her bandwidth, I linked the Google cache. Cheers.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:QcjRbnttFygJ:w ww.cio.com/archive/110105/tl_filesharing.html+&hl= en

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:7n-Uwr5UNeEJ:w ww.corvus.com/documents/reference/orangebooksummar y+mandatory+access+control+orange+book&hl=en&lr=la ng_en

and (for more detail)
http://www.totse.com/en/privacy/encryption/orange. html

Read up on Division B2 and B3 security controls as specified by NSA in the Orange Book from the Rainbow Series (no, those aren't the official names but it's what everyone uses) -- the U.S. Government knew more about implementing impossible-to-bypass DRM years ago than Microsoft will be able to implement before 2010.

Which seems to mean only if you were arrested while leaving your house they could search it. If you walking home from work they couldn't legally have searched your house.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:ugsY9o7ro0YJ:w ww.fbcinc.com/conference2005/bin/win_incident.ppt+ Sandstorm+DHS&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Sandstorm

            Free to DHS & federal government

            From Dept. of State [and DHS US-CERT]

            Like EnCase Enterprise edition

            Network forensics "grep"

            Examine system state

            Remotely search multiple systems - files, ports, processes, file headers, hashes, MACs, ADS

            Search all files changed in this time frame

            Search all files with this hash regardless of name

            155KB agent runs, then deletes itself

            Windows only

            Fairly forensically safe - does not change file MACs

            Root kit detection to come later

So the chances of a DMCA violation are minimal. HTML Version of the ruling here

Gee thanks. From the article "The Analog Content Security Preservation Act of 2005 is scheduled to be debated in a U.S. House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property on Thursday."

So how about a news article discussing the first round of debates?
Here's a link to the bill.

Fantasy titles should be earned through the mechanics of the game, and should not be recreated through character naming. This category includes names which:

• Consist of any title prefix attached to a character's name be it fantasy-based or not (i.e. Kingmike, Presidentsanchez)

These gents BOTH are a single stewardship of what goes into various builds & what does not of this OS family from MS (the entire Windows genre) as well as Linux... depending on what level of the OS you are looking @!

E.G.=> Kernel/Ring 0 -> UserMode/Ring 3

They already do have "features" specific to their format.

Read "Microsoft's Approach to Disclosures of XML File Formats for Word 2003 and Excel 2003" available here (pdf warning) or you can view the Google "CCIA-XML" html version.

Google cache!
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:i22oAfgJYvgJ:u ncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions+ &hl=en&client=firefox-a

"Google takes over world, Microsoft left to die."
After google [Girl/Boy]-friend society stopped being as it used to be cause noone had to get out to get dates anymore.

Bill gates tried to bring out his own X-[Girl/Boy]-friend but bankrupted trying to compete with Google. Observers stated alot of software issues made the experience "too realistic" and resembling more like a "ex-experience" then a "eXperience" as Microsoft tried to market their last hope. Internal sources disclosed B. Gates would've "sworn to kill google".
Google is booming however and is working hard on their beloved GooglePhones, still in beta, which are cleverly linked with GoogleMaps while used. Plans are to make GoogleToaster linked with AdWords.

I should have known that blogsinc should have removed the link before selling - here is the google cache: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:joSMWuOral0J:w ww.blogherald.com/2005/08/26/weblogs-inc-pay-rates -revealed-by-disgruntled-potential-recruit+weblogs -inc-pay-rates-revealed-by-disgruntled-potential-r ecruit&hl=en

Check this out: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Gz2WfTaMWTYJ:w ww.google.com/support/bin/answer.py%3Fanswer%3D486 6%26topic%3D367+google+birthday&hl=en Wonder whats up with that...

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Gz2WfTaMWTYJ:w ww.google.com/support/bin/answer.py%3Fanswer%3D486 6%26topic%3D367+happy+birthday+google&hl=en/
says that Google birthday is the 7th/Sept, I'm confused

So pissed I didn't check my links.

Server logs: 1, 2, 3

ISP logs: 1, 2, 3 related directly to P2P apps

System logs: A textbook on the subject you might like to read, Explanation of how to read a system log

No I don't listen to Art Bell. And there are logs on ISP servers, I know because I use them all the time to track down people trying to use my websites as spambots.

. I mean, if there ARE logs on all the ISPs then why AREN'T they being used to catch the criminals using them?

Logs are being used to catch criminals all the time, it's just a little difficult to do it over borders and shit like that. Plus there's a lttle thing called the Constitution getting in the way here in America. And it's really hard to convict someone of a crime on circumstantial evidence, which is what a server log is considered in a court of law.

. And also, what would these phantom logs contain? Every bit that has ever been downloaded?

Your ISP doesn't have to log everybit that you moved, but it does log what requests you sent where. Then you take that info and go to the IP that you requested data from and check it's logs. Guess what, a list of every request ever made by YOUR IP, pointing DIRECTLY to the material. These logs are text files, which are really really small. I have logs of every request going back to 2002 on my webservers at work. I know where they were made from and who refered them.

I can also delete these logs on anytime I want, which is how we save space. After seven years, much like tax records, we assume the log is safe to delete.

Now you think about it, if there were no such thing as a server log, how did the RIAA succefully sue people who downloaded and uploaded copyrighted files? How did they prove it? It most have been my "phantom logs". Jesus man, you have no fucking idea what your talking about, do you?

The whole point is moot anyways as this whole ignorant rant from you is in response to me proving to you the legal difference between downloading and recording a TV show. You got stuffed on that subject by everyone in here and had to argue something so you could "be right." I tried explaining it to you like an adult, and you still don't get it. I use these damn things every fucking day and yet you tell me they don't exist. I work with people who use these things in a forensic capacity yet you say they can't do it. You are a fucking idiot. And here is your proof:

Server logs: 1, 2, 3

ISP logs: 1, 2, 3 related directly to P2P apps

System logs: A textbook on the subject you might like to read, Explanation of how to read a system log

Don't bother responding, cause I'm going to ignore the shit out of your ignorant ass anyways. Douchebag.

Was this the documentary?


(google cache)

Michael Shrayer released Electric Pencil (Google HTML cache of a defunct PDF file) in 1976. An architect friend and I saw Electric Pencil demonstrated on an Altair in a Washington, DC computer store in 1977; he was sold on the idea. A poster on the wall showed a man hugging a giant pencil. The slogan: I love my Electric Pencil.

MicroPro released WordStar for CP/M in 1978, a year before VisiCalc was available. Typists of that era will remember some Wordstar's many control key commands, particularly the e-s-d-x diamond (^e for up, ^s for left, ^d for right, and ^x for down). Preface those with ^q to move to the top, side, or bottom of the screen. WordStar was too large to fit into the 16 KB RAM available, so many commands loaded overlays from floppy disk. Fortunately, WordStar buffered keystrokes, so experienced users kept typing at full speed.

Electric Pencil and WordStar sold many computers and Centronics printers long before VisiCalc was born.

Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

I'm not sure that examples from Saugus are the best as Saugus.net has long been a strong advocate of free software and it's easy to find examples there. Most of the other communities lag way behind; you'd have a much tougher time finding an example from Lynnfield or Gloucester or Essex. Saugus.net does seem to be an influential leader, though. I found an old page indicating that Marblehead's current open source efforts are in some way or another supported by Saugus.net, and most of the Massachusetts local sites now do seem to copy Saugus.net in one way or another.

Why do I say this? First of all the URL for the site mimicks getfirefox.com. Secondly, the site itself (here is the Google cache) appears to have been lifted wholesale from getfirefox.com. Their logo is nearly identical (same colours, use of a stylized fox, etc) and they

I was surprised at the quotes they managed to get as well BUT if you look at who produced the show it explains alot- Carl Franklin's PWOP Productions produced the show and I'd say that Carl is one of the only folks, besides Adam Curry, making real money off of podcasting-- he's earning $120k a year in sponsorship for his .NET Rocks podcast and has been doing podcasts before the word podcast existed.

If you get someone who knows what their doing behind a microphone it's definitely possible to get good quotes from people. :)

A recent "popular science" article talked about how to make thermite. It's actually quite simple.

(Google cache) (With Pics)

From the article:
In high school, my social studies teacher talked about a substance that could generate heat so intense that a bag of it lit on the hood of a car would melt right through the engine block. Cool, eh? A Vietnam vet, he said that in the war they used blankets of the stuff to destroy sensitive equipment before capture by melting it into a puddle. (Putting holes in the odd jeep engine was just for fun.)
...
Thermite is simply a mixture of iron oxide (like the magnetite sand I discussed last month) and aluminum powder, which I buy commercially. (Incidentally, it's also the stuff that creates the image inside an Etch A Sketch.)

BTW: Magnetite is found by running a strong magnet through beach sand.

So, if you can afford a good magnet and an etch-a-sketch, then you can make thermite.

A recent "popular science" article talked about how to make thermite. It's actually quite simple.

(Google cache) (With Pics)

From the article:
In high school, my social studies teacher talked about a substance that could generate heat so intense that a bag of it lit on the hood of a car would melt right through the engine block. Cool, eh? A Vietnam vet, he said that in the war they used blankets of the stuff to destroy sensitive equipment before capture by melting it into a puddle. (Putting holes in the odd jeep engine was just for fun.)
...
Thermite is simply a mixture of iron oxide (like the magnetite sand I discussed last month) and aluminum powder, which I buy commercially. (Incidentally, it's also the stuff that creates the image inside an Etch A Sketch.)

BTW: Magnetite is found by running a strong magnet through beach sand.

So, if you can afford a good magnet and an etch-a-sketch, then you can make thermite.

Hello, I'm a moderator on the Ubuntu forum. After looking at your post I conclude you need to do two things:

First you need to install and enable the official Nvidia driver. You are lucky enough to have an Nvidia card (their drivers are the best) and so you might as well get your money's worth. The directions here will guide you.

Secondly, we need to get your apps starting faster. To do that, follow this how to. I know its a Warty How To, but it will work for every Ubuntu released. And after it is done, things will speed up...

Also I know for a fact that your card will work with Xcompmgr. Look at the guide here. Don't use the drop shadows (the -cC command), just use the fading (-fF) and everything else will speed up as well (no more draw issues). I usually run the program in a terminal in my fourth desktop, out of my way. With xcompmgr and prelinking with the official drivers, on your laptop Ubuntu will fly!

Thanks for posting so much info so I could help, have a nice day.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:0navd8Ukq_wJ:s am.zoy.org/pwntcha/+&hl=en

"I envy people who thrive on three or four hours of sleep a night. They have so much more time to work, learn, and play."

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:5SwGg5oaOfgJ:d ownload.microsoft.com/download/0/c/0/0c020894-1f95 -408c-a571-1b5033c75bbc/billg_faq.doc+%22bill+gate s%22+sleep+hour&hl=en

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:FNl2Q6ovGMwJ:w ww.dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/deepspin/archive/2004/ 12/17/37445.aspx+%22bill+gates%22+sleep+hour&hl=en

"I envy people who thrive on three or four hours of sleep a night. They have so much more time to work, learn, and play."

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:5SwGg5oaOfgJ:d ownload.microsoft.com/download/0/c/0/0c020894-1f95 -408c-a571-1b5033c75bbc/billg_faq.doc+%22bill+gate s%22+sleep+hour&hl=en

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:FNl2Q6ovGMwJ:w ww.dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/deepspin/archive/2004/ 12/17/37445.aspx+%22bill+gates%22+sleep+hour&hl=en

Linus also said:

"[ And don't get me wrong - I follow slashdot too, exactly because it's fun
    to see people argue. I'm not complaining ;]"

Since it's now salshdotted, see http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:HR1UTE7bLf0J:l kml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95+&hl=en [Google cache}

That's only the first page. The second page is also in Google's cache, but good luck finding any more.

Try this google cache link .. full article ..

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:1CvlEjwElaUJ:w ww.flexbeta.net/main/printarticle.php%3Fid%3D106+& hl=en&lr=lang_en

ehemmm, here is the actual link: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:1CvlEjwElaUJ:w ww.flexbeta.net/main/printarticle.php%3Fid%3D106+& hl=en&start=1&client=firefox

I don't have either the information or inclination to say whether cato is reliable, but I don't doubt your claim. However, from the top of the article:

Richard S. Lindzen is the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

If the article is somehow misused or not representative of his original publication, someone should let him know. If Richard S. Lindzen isn't reliable, why is he still at MIT?

I don't seek to assert that the claims in the article are correct, just that they merit consideration, and the whole concept of global warming is not necessarily a fact, or due to CO2. We don't know yet, but the article presents a valid, well argued view on the situation. Read it. Cato sicken you? MIT PDF google cache of pdf

To be fair, Article questioning Lindzen's integrity.

Let's not forget this old thinkgeek tshirt (now gone):

Have you grokked your sysadmin today?

They (probably) deserve it!

I'm not sure about the grandparent, but, I like having both.

My AMD64 3000+ throttles down using Cool 'n quiet. My harddrives stop spinning. I don't have any optical drives, which burn power. My graphics card power usage cycles up and down depending upon whether the 3D is in use.

In fact, it will respond to SSH requests even when it is in the standby to ram mode, which reduces the overrall power usage to around 20-30 watts. Overall, my PC burns far less power when it is idling than older systems with no power management. An older pentium-pentium III system, always on, with no processor throttling, and poorer APM/ACPI capabilities is far more power hungry.

Keep in mind, standby to ram mode *does* turn off your GPU, Sound Card, and USB devices (just about everything except for network cards and input devices, which are pretty energy efficent. If you have smart fans controlled by BIOS they'll be turned off by powersaving.

Sure, peak power usage is higher; but I'm fine with that. I'm willing to trade peak usage (which is occassional) for overrall lower usage.

There's a chart here that shows tested power usage for an AMD64 system running at base Coon 'N Quiet Frequency (800 MHZ)
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:bKaElUvKlBYJ:w ww.silentpcreview.com/Sections%2Bindex-req-printpa ge-artid-222.html+AMD64+Cool+'n+quiet+energy+savin gs&hl=en&client=safari

One impressive thing is that it works just fine with passive cooling; considering that my processor fan automatically cycles up and down depending upon heat, and I've reduced the number of fans in my system to 1 (passive heat pipe cooling on my video card, aluminum case which pulls heat from the HD), I'd say smarter design is more important that low performance/power design.

I just copied the one from google cache back into the wiki - we'll see how long it takes before that asshole takes it down again.

It is the Guild's objective that no member use a professional name which is the same as, or resembles so closely as to tend to be confused with, the name of any other member

Google, text only:
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:hHhkzdBOglAJ:w ww.otherpower.com/17page1.html+&hl=en&lr=&strip=1
Google, image of turbine:
http://images.google.ca/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=& safe=off&c2coff=1&q=flying17foot.JPG&btnG=Search
Google, images of turbines on their site:
http://images.google.ca/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=& safe=off&c2coff=1&q=site%3Awww.otherpower.com+turb ine&btnG=Search

carmaHore.

$9 per four-pack of espresso, mocha, caramel, or French vanilla flavors

SGI makes/builds super computers for the National Weather Service, and the military that handle munching hundreds of terabytes of data a day.

SGI makes/builds super computers for the National Weather Service, and the military that handle munching hundreds of terabytes of data a day.