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I do quite like the Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie sysadmin song: http://www.deadtroll.com/sysad...

There's a guy who works in another room
Or, on another floor
He's the one you call
When your document ain't there no more
He's probably a boy, but he might be a girl
Or, something in-between
He's the only one in the building
Who knows what PC load-letter means
He's your System Administrator
He probably reads comic books
And you tremble in fear when you have to hear one of his
"What a dummy", looks
Got a virus, lost your password or you just can't print?
In an hour he'll show and then he'll crouch and squint
Fight to save your files, he might be there all day
But sometimes, he just presses caps lock...and he walks away...
But hey! Suddenly my password works! Hooray!

Hooray, happy Syst. Admin. day,
Gonna buy my guy a gift to say:
"Having you around means I get to stay
Stupid! And uninformed!"
And I can keep opening .exe e-mail attachments,
And forgetting my mother's maiden name,
And naming files with spaces
And ampersands and colons,
'Cause you'll fix it all for me!

I'll give you a cake,
I'll give you a hug,
I'll buy "The World's Best
System Administrator" mug,
Just help me out...
System Administrator!
Delete my Recently Viewed Websites file!
Restore my network settings so I can find my F drive!
Argh! Plug in my mouse!

Piss him off,
And you'll be fired by tomorrow morn,
Cause he's the guy
Who knows that you were surfing porn.
So July 26th...
Make sure you get a present for your...
System... Administrator.

Luls. I agree agree with you, except for the last bit.

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html

Written like 10ish years ago... still just as true. Possibly even more so.

"it's an operating system designed for idiot^Wmommies and daddies" (I wish I could find that video again...)

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/livehelldesk.html~content

Internet Helpdesk, from deadtroll.com

Microsoft must have something to do with this. http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/behindms.html~content

I've been looking to try and find the flash video for this forever.

Here

They are all located on their home page anyway.

I've been looking to try and find the flash video for this forever.

Here

They are all located on their home page anyway.

In the 1970s, computers were used for two things: to go to the moon, and to play pong. Nothing in between. That was back before every OS sucked.

Just thought you would appreciate the song. Getting offa your lawn now.

"I'm re-painting the garage and wanted to find out if latex would bond to stucco, so I thought I would do a 'search' for... I don't know... latex bondage!" Happens all the time

That's just the difference between an IT Development/Architect role and an IT Support role.

Software or Hardware design/building is Development.

IT Support roles are things like QA, testing, system administration, internet helldesk.

To the naive person, it's just IT.

Some engineers don't like being called "IT Guys", because they want to make sure they stay as far away as the helldesk as possible. Many developers had bad experiences there in their early years, before they came adept in their field of software development, and now want to distance themselves as far as possible.

Seeing "looking for IT guy" in a job solicitation can be scary.. it's almost like seeing "College Graduate" as the only required qualification... it makes the job look less important, which may reduce it's attractiveness to higher-end applicants ---- this is a marketing error (unless the intent is to hire as cheap applicants as possible, and coax them into other IT roles like sysadmin on the side).

There are people who will see "IT Guy" or see your computer-based role, and assume you can help them with all their petty problems. So carving out a name like "Engineer" offers some protection (although that name Engineer is really already taken by a completely different discipline that has nothing to do with software development).

Anyways... whether developers WANT to be called IT guys or not, is a separate question from Are they IT guys? in fact.

You know, writing software requires troubleshooting, and fixing problems (in software you made though), much like IT Support roles.

Perhaps developers and IT sysadmins are only really that different at a superficial (and social) level, and in regards to the specific subject matter.

Troubleshooting your own code that you have full control over might be a lot easier than troubleshooting complex proprietary systems you don't have control over, and can't necessarily even see the source code to.

Well its been a while since this was posted, Every OS sucks.

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/dvd/1812.html~content

Yeah, it's hilarious. If you ever need to cheer up a Canadian, play this song for them.

bad link?

Nope. I've tried it twice and had it work.

Try this:

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/helldeskcable.html~content

I've had many a student like this.

Old but still funny :) http://www.deadtroll.com/video/digitalrage1.html

By Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie:

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/sysadmin/ind ex.html~content

Dan.

We already invaded and burned down the White House once... What else do you want us to do?

http://www.deadtroll.com/1812/index.html

So, basically you mean this...

Now, I use a variety of OSes and I do understand your problem with OS X. I had exactly the same problem when I bought an G3 iBook years ago. The solution? Try not to think like an IT person, but do the things you consider the dumbest thing you could do. That's usually the solution... ;-)

Don't send a card - point them to the System Administrator Song instead. They'll like it better, I promise.

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/sysadmin/~co ntent

Explained beautifully here: http://www.deadtroll.com/sysadmin/

No help desk or support site would be complete without a showing of the classic Internet Help Desk to all employees/volunteers.

I'd have to go with MC Frontalot and Optimus Rhyme

But I'd also like to add Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. I know it's a sketch comedy group, but they have some funny tech songs and tech skits. My favorites are "Every OS Sucks" and "Welcome to the Internet Helpdesk".

Stevens, and others in Congress, are what the great comedy troup Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called 12 o'clock flashers. Every electronic device in their house is always flashing 12:00. It is physically impossible, no matter how much you dumb down the terms, to explain the concept of the internet to the feeble brain of a 12 o'clock flasher. You might as well read them the writings of Stephen Hawking in Dutch. No matter how simply you dumb down the concept of email, they are still receiving an "internet", they boot to "Microsoft", Windows are what line the walls of their office, and rebooting involves kicking more than once. These are the same guys who break their "cupholders" and scream at tech support for their incompetence when they don't realize they have the program minimized. I know there are many here in this august body who have greying hair as a result of these lusers and can attest to Mr. Stevens incompetence just by hearing about his reciept of an "internet". He probably asked his secretary to download the "internet" to a floppy so he could read it in his spare time.

"Listen, the next time your daddy tells you his computer isn't working? I want you to tell him it's broken. Okay? And tell him to give it to you to play with, and send him back to the store to buy an iMac, okay? It's a computer especially built for idi... ummm... for, you know, mommies and daddies."

The Internet Help Desk is divine comedy.

It was invariably an older person who couldn't set the time on their microwave, much less understand the concept of a web site or e-mail.

Ahhhh, the good old 12 o' clock flasher!

Doing techsupport will scar a person permanently, I sympathize :-)

the Dead Trolls would not approve ;-)

You should read Wes Borg's take on MP3s before you say that. :)

Actually, I think you need to be from Alberta to say that. If you don't know the group, see if you can find "I am Canadian", "The Toronto Song", and/or "The War of 1812". If you're like most people here, the "System Administrator Song" and "Behind The Scenes @ Microsoft" might interest you as well.

The war of 1812 was not a draw. Although the american history will often try and show it, lets make a few things clear.

The war of 1812 was an invasion into canada, with the goal of annexation. This goal was not met. While it is true that the british forces tried to counter attack american cities, and were held off, the fact of the matter is that us canucks and the british whose colony we were at the time kicked your american buts back south where you belong, and for the fun of it, burned the white house down. Too bad (as the comedy troupe Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie so succinctly put (http://www.deadtroll.com/ ) it's a shame you didn't take your culture with you.

But hey, by gons be by gons, we are now friends and trading partners, no hard feelings!

Of course next time the US tries to annex Canada, it will probably succeed (actually, places like Alberta, my home will probably vote to join peacefully, but that is another matter), because our military isn't much better than it was in 1812, and who knows what other parts of the world would help us.

Simple. Every OS Sucks:

http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html

Or right click link save as...
funny thou how Windows media player couldn't find it to save as. when its already downloaded it.

It hasn't got much going for it really, a cj boss (from reggie perrin, a duane dibley clone and an audience that was desperately trying to show how funny it was... not.

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/hellde skcable.html~content

thats funny

I always thought Microsoft used an army of Mole Men to write their software.

Every OS Sucks! (Requires a computer that can play video, D'OH!)

You know he already plays, right? :o)

http://bioware.pandemicstudios.com/ Oooooh.
I just hope they're hirin'.
--
"Immature Artists borrow. Mature Artists steal."
Wes Borg

Ok, this is the first time I actually managed to get a story posted on Slashdot, but it ISN'T WHAT I POSTED! What the hoo ha? Bioware and Pandemic aren't merging, they're working together on a project. Plus they (Zonk I guess) cut my joke!
What the hell? I mean, go ahead and reject my postings, but don't completely rewrite the damn things!
---
"Immature Artists borrow. Mature Artists steal."
Wes Borg

Among other things, the dad says: "I want to be surfing up the email and webbed up to net pages and such."

Every OS sucks (warning video clip)

Try this one.
Bring our server down instead!
wes

Does anyone know when "System Administrator Depreciation Day" is?
Thank you thank you, I'll be here all week...
wes

Hey thanks! I've always wanted to be slashdotted. By the way, the video and a new mp3 for the song is here.
Wes

Actually in Canada we don't really have protected Freedom Of Speech. We should, but we don't. That's why the government is allowed to create "hate laws". I knew Telus sucked, but my GOD. What's next? Are they going to block the Union Office's phone number? Or did they already do that? wes Sysadmin Appreciation Day (July 29)

and the 3 Dead Trolls In a Baggie site

Reminds me of the Tech Support skit by 3 Dead Trolls in a Baggie.

Click Here for the Internet Help Desk

Work for yourself, you can spy on your employees and your employers without violating anyone's privacy. Be your own CEO! Or maybe that's stupid.

So now I can't secretly spy on my employer anymore? Crap! I had some pretty sexy chat captures from our CEO! I can't believe Alberta made Slashdot! Go local legal skirmishes!

did that wery well.

see "The Sunscreen Marketing Board Presents" at http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html

Every OS sucks.

for me, linux sucks a lot less than the alternatives for 90% of what I do. But I'm not much of a zealot, except for security which is where Windows shows its main weakness.

it's horses for courses:

• I use windows for point-and-click DVS authoring
• I use a debian derivative on my firewall
• I use SuSE for my desktop OS for work
• My PDAs run PalmOS (T3) or linux (Zaurus).
• For java servers solaris10 (Sun has to be trusted on this one!)
• and my Xbox (chipped) runs, well, Microsoft stuff and Xbox media centre

Whenever linux gains some new and stable features, then I'll switch another server/service.

Would you in fact say that Every OS sucks?

Actually, he/she did cite a source. What did you think Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie referred to (click on the Audio topic in the menu on the left to hear the song)?