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Think you could point it out for me?

Sure, right here.: "Without limiting other remedies, we may limit, suspend, or terminate our service and user accounts, prohibit access to our website, remove hosted content, and take technical and legal steps to keep users off the Site if we think that they are creating problems, possible legal liabilities, or acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies."

And right here: "eBay alone will exercise its judgment in deciding which listings are not permissible."

Think you could point it out for me?

Sure, right here.: "Without limiting other remedies, we may limit, suspend, or terminate our service and user accounts, prohibit access to our website, remove hosted content, and take technical and legal steps to keep users off the Site if we think that they are creating problems, possible legal liabilities, or acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies."

And right here: "eBay alone will exercise its judgment in deciding which listings are not permissible."

There is a followup on ebay!

Because he changed his user name.

Are you trying to say that there are stupid people out there that would rather carry an entire corpse to a authentication terminal, rather than delve into the gruesome arts of exacto-knifing those certain finger digits and eyeballs; to assemble a casted mould and a facial mask articulated to correct skin tone with the eyes precisely duplicated in a holographic-depth spectre surface (holographic printer, or inexpensive homemade holography, Holography technique, or even the Amature Holograph Society?) There are even inexpensive technical courses that improves this matter, that can be easily used to purvey an eye-scanner. There is nothing to hide; the technologies thought to provide more security and safety, other than brute-force and immediate consumption, were defeated the moment they were activated. I suppose someone can create every necessary part of a body in three-dimensional clay and it'll pass a scanner test.

I think the counter-actions that inexpensively defeat all the security measures are in good faith, whereas anyone that is coerced to wave standard good-faith handshaking rules and passkeys in their account to a more public and global access have already waived what little security and safety there was meant. I suggest people move their fortunes with them wherever they may need it. This is all the fault of a world-ready currency and central banking, then to let people carry specie in their pockets with a firearm to anyone that wants to take their demurred and stored compensation and barter representations of hard labor.

The eBay seller ID was fearwall so for the hell of it I checked out http://www.fearwall.com/ and of course the first words were "Linux Rulez!!"(same as in the eBay auction body). There's a photo of the kid too!

He has also recently changed his ebay ID to smk778.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeed back&userid=fearwall

Looks like the seller just bought a keystroke logger.... :)

I was reading through ebay T&C, because the article made me curious.

I, for one, am very disappointed that I cannot list a prohibited country for sale:

No, criminal profiteering. The only type of person who could make use of the information apart from Microsoft is a criminal.

So you're asserting that a security professional could not use the information to create a patch or fix for this vulnerability?

EBay has a right and a duty to stop trade in vulnerabilities same as they have a right and duty to stop trade in any other illegal material.

I'm having a hard time finding the exact violation on eBay's prohibited and restricted items page. Think you could point it out for me?

2. Exactly which eBay rule did this auction break?

GEB is simply amazing and really makes you think. It is a large tome but it was well worth the read when I read it in high school. It influenced me musically, mathematically and gave me insight to become a computer programmer.

It's a very common book and can be acquired cheaply on amazon, ebay and the wiki.

I also heavily recommend getting to know this site if you're willing to search through lists of books for good deals.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicon-Graphics-1600SW-LCD-Fl at-Panel-HDTV-34-units_W0QQitemZ7569824865QQcatego ryZ21517QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebay photohosting

I happen to own one of these myself, and not only are they easy to repair, but their resale value is still outstanding.

...plus $23 shipping.

Disclaimer: No, I'm not the person selling this, and I have no idea who the person is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =7204345037

bort.

Excel 0day for sale on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =7203336538

You seem to be right - usually my internet skills don't fail me when looking for something but this time apparently this thing has disappeared from nearly all corners of the net. However, I found it on ebay for 10 GBP + 5 GBP shipping worldwide here. Apparently it's been involved in some sort of distribution conflict for a while and the only people selling it are "unofficial".

The greatest mice I've ever used In trackball and The mouse I've never found a more natural feeling mouse/trackball pair. I prefer the trackball because my desk space tends to be limited.

The greatest mice I've ever used In trackball and The mouse I've never found a more natural feeling mouse/trackball pair. I prefer the trackball because my desk space tends to be limited.

PSone on Ebay
Hmmm, $1.00, or $150.... I've made my choice

I agree with the eBay idea. See for yourself

As of 5:03PM EST, there are 6654 Xbox 360 systems for sale on eBay!! WTF?!

Umm... I beg to differ.

Checked for World of Warcraft gold on ebay recently? Who do you think earns that stuff ;) It isn't a bot.

I've been in the DIY projector scene for awhile, and I've never heard of lumenlab.com, or a "for sale" guide. This guide seems to be fairly in depth, but this is one of the more complicated designs. My favorite design is the most simple, and AFAIK the cheapest. Just grab a decent quality projection panel from Ebay, and then grab an overhead projector (just like th eones you used in school) also cheap and readily available on Ebay. You can get this setup for $200-300 and the replacement bulbs are cheap. Very simple to setup, just plugging in the power and video sources and you're good to go. The picture isn't the best, but it's not bad at all, I watch movies, play games, and sometimes just fart around and read slashdot on my bedroom wall. The darker you can get the room, the better the picture will be.

I've been in the DIY projector scene for awhile, and I've never heard of lumenlab.com, or a "for sale" guide. This guide seems to be fairly in depth, but this is one of the more complicated designs. My favorite design is the most simple, and AFAIK the cheapest. Just grab a decent quality projection panel from Ebay, and then grab an overhead projector (just like th eones you used in school) also cheap and readily available on Ebay. You can get this setup for $200-300 and the replacement bulbs are cheap. Very simple to setup, just plugging in the power and video sources and you're good to go. The picture isn't the best, but it's not bad at all, I watch movies, play games, and sometimes just fart around and read slashdot on my bedroom wall. The darker you can get the room, the better the picture will be.

Prices start at only $750,000

Invite only... What's an orkut invite worth these days?

a dual-HDTV "tuner", very capable box for like $18 a month - I doubt that comes close to covering the depreciation on the box month over month.

Speaking of trust systems: I've had excellent results with ebay - buying from reputable sellers. There are quite a few chinese/hong kong sellers on there with 10-50k transactions and 1-10 negative feedbacks. I don't know *any* brick and mortar stores with those kinds of numbers.

Unfortunately PriceRitePhoto also sells on Ebay with a 99% approval rating on almost 5000 feedbacks. They have 32 negatives but I do notice that it says (145 ratings mutually withdrawn). Could this be the result of more harassment? A little research yields:

http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=pricerit ephoto&v=60

I especially like this response.

" CALLED ME A MORON- six times & SAID ILL KEEP THE CAMERA & YOUR MONEY- E FOR MORE"

Check out the negative feedback they've left:

http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=pricerit ephoto&Dirn=Left+by

There are definitely some shady business practices going on there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =8238034794

Check out Dell Latitude LS on Ebay. For under $200, you can usually get anywhere from PIII 400-700 MHz. Most come with 256 MB RAM, but the memory for these guys is pretty cheap and can be upgraded to 512 pretty easily. Find a 40-60 GB Hard drive you like, and you've got yourself quite a little system. You know this system can't be a total dog because it runs XP for me nicely. You might be hurting if you need the video real bad, but it does everything else great.

3ghz celeron pc just over $200
http://cgi.ebay.com/CELERON-D-345-PRESCOTT-3-06-Gh z-450w-BAREBONES-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ8729952145QQcateg oryZ52476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
3.2ghz P4 about $360
http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-3-2GHZ-P4-512MB-80G-CDRW -USB2-VIDEO-LAN-COMPUTER_W0QQitemZ8729845117QQcate goryZ52476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

xbox360 about $400
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999 46700050005&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat6 6900050001&id=pcmprd46900050005

If you're going to make a cluster why not just use common PC equipment ?
It's cheaper than the 360 and I'd guess at alot easier

3ghz celeron pc just over $200
http://cgi.ebay.com/CELERON-D-345-PRESCOTT-3-06-Gh z-450w-BAREBONES-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ8729952145QQcateg oryZ52476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
3.2ghz P4 about $360
http://cgi.ebay.com/INTEL-3-2GHZ-P4-512MB-80G-CDRW -USB2-VIDEO-LAN-COMPUTER_W0QQitemZ8729845117QQcate goryZ52476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

xbox360 about $400
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9999 46700050005&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat6 6900050001&id=pcmprd46900050005

If you're going to make a cluster why not just use common PC equipment ?
It's cheaper than the 360 and I'd guess at alot easier

Now if they'd fix the "economic problems" - the ones that show the need for good regulation against this kind of thing. Not to spoil it, but the free market that you think exists, is trumped by outright force. You may not be able to blot out the sun, but you can still block undesirable actions and sources of items/services with the degree of efficiency that the "free market" portrays.

This is where force exists, albeit hidden by some who think only of life/death issues when thinking of force. Save the string for something more useful.

For the record, I'm waiting it out - for the modchips.

Well, Google is still young. I'm fairly sure it will eventually enter middle age and the engineers will be replaced by marketing. Then when it gets old, the marketeers will be replaced by lawyers. It is just a question of time, years, or even decades.

I am sure you are right, because I have seen it happen. Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) was founded in 1959 by a couple of engineers. When I became aware of the company in 1963 it still had an engineering culture: the engineers ran the show, and the sales people were secondary. Somewhere around 1968, they renamed the programmers "software engineers" to give them more prestige.

As the company matured the culture changed. Even though I worked for DEC from 1975 to 1992, I cannot point to a specific event that was the watershed. The first symptom that I noticed was that the KS10 was said to be developed in secret to prevent it from being cancelled. Even if that wasn't true, the fact that engineers believed it indicates that the engineers no longer felt that they were making the decisions.

I wonder if paying commissions to the sales people was a symptom or a cause.

I don't blame the demise of Digital entirely on the shift from an engineering focus to a sales focus. There were some bad decisions made by engineering in the last few years. But I can't help wondering if those decisions might have been corrected more quickly by a younger company.

Strangely, IBM appears to be a counter-example. They are by far the oldest computer company, but they seem to have achieved some sort of dynamic equilibrium, where they are able to change direction as technology and markets change quickly enough to survive. I am sure some of that has to do with their size, but as General Motors reminds us, size is no guarantee of survival. I suppose they have internal institutions that keep them nimble.

There are some good books on Digital Equipment Corporation. See The Ultimate Entrepreneur for the story of DEC at its height, and DEC is Dead Long, Live DEC for a look back after its death.
John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)

Well, Google is still young. I'm fairly sure it will eventually enter middle age and the engineers will be replaced by marketing. Then when it gets old, the marketeers will be replaced by lawyers. It is just a question of time, years, or even decades.

I am sure you are right, because I have seen it happen. Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) was founded in 1959 by a couple of engineers. When I became aware of the company in 1963 it still had an engineering culture: the engineers ran the show, and the sales people were secondary. Somewhere around 1968, they renamed the programmers "software engineers" to give them more prestige.

As the company matured the culture changed. Even though I worked for DEC from 1975 to 1992, I cannot point to a specific event that was the watershed. The first symptom that I noticed was that the KS10 was said to be developed in secret to prevent it from being cancelled. Even if that wasn't true, the fact that engineers believed it indicates that the engineers no longer felt that they were making the decisions.

I wonder if paying commissions to the sales people was a symptom or a cause.

I don't blame the demise of Digital entirely on the shift from an engineering focus to a sales focus. There were some bad decisions made by engineering in the last few years. But I can't help wondering if those decisions might have been corrected more quickly by a younger company.

Strangely, IBM appears to be a counter-example. They are by far the oldest computer company, but they seem to have achieved some sort of dynamic equilibrium, where they are able to change direction as technology and markets change quickly enough to survive. I am sure some of that has to do with their size, but as General Motors reminds us, size is no guarantee of survival. I suppose they have internal institutions that keep them nimble.

There are some good books on Digital Equipment Corporation. See The Ultimate Entrepreneur for the story of DEC at its height, and DEC is Dead Long, Live DEC for a look back after its death.
John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)

"Hey! I made one too, out of penicillin!"
"Dude, it's eating my e. coli photograph! C'mon man... all that time wasted."
"Weird, it looks like the Virgin Mary now..."

VIRGIN MARY E. COLI PHOTOGRAPH - NO RESERVE - FREE SHIPPING

Here is a pretty funny one on ebay, I think lots of people are getting the idea to dump them on there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xbox-360-Premium-free-over-nig ht-shipping_W0QQitemZ8236510006QQcategoryZ62054QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

According to the eBay Toy Finder, the Manufacturer's Recommended Age for the XBox 360 is 5+ http://toyfinder.ebay.com/best_kids_toys/products/ Microsoft_xbox_360.html

What's actually funny (ironic, maybe ha-ha, too) is these sales, assuming the sales actually go through, will enable people to profit at Microsoft's expense. When was the last time you did that?

Oh, and beyond the cost of parts and assembly, don't forget packaging (a good box with packing material is much more than you think, especially if boxes are damaged in transit and need to be replaced, small wonder HP ships expensive Athlon64 laptops in plain brown wrappers) plus the cost of transporation and logistics, and adverising, and development costs. The loss is a bit more than that $126. Why does the fascination with loss-per-unit only focus on parts?

I tend to think Sony still has significant advantage over Microsoft, thanks to economies of scale, they make many other consumer electronics items and can combine channels, where Microsoft will be selling this one thing.

let me know when they have a network version of m.u.l.e. or mail order monsters

Have you seen the outrageous prices being demanded on eBay? Yesterday (launch day in the US) they were between $800-$1,000 for the premium. Today (the day after) they're down to $500-ish - all promising Nov 22nd or Nov 23rd delivery. On the US eBay site (http://search.ebay.com/xbox360) there were 1,400 systems for sale, with dozens of auctions ending every minute.

Given the comments here, can we say "Get them while they're hot"?

It seems that some sort of massive fraud is going on here. The sellers themselves may simply be propping up the prices on their own auctions. Or, even more sinister and genius, a third party (Microsoft?) is following up Microsoft's deliberate Xbox shortage plan with a plan to inflate the eBay market as well. The fact that Xbox 360 units are selling on eBay for about $1000, there is a lot of money at steak here and what better way to show how wonderful and popular the new system is than by populating the press with stories of people so desperate for an Xbox that the system is selling for $1000?

Crazy conspiracy theory? Brilliant plot uncovered? What do you think?

Almost 30000

This is just rediculous.

$12,100.00
Twelve thousand dollars... Plus shipping.

Ask and ye shall recieve.

2734 when I checked. That might be one or two percent of the entire US supply so far.

Sorry, but that's misleading - there are way more than three thousand xbox 360 systems for sale on ebay. Choose "xbox 360 console" for your search and you'll find nearly five thousand - some of which do have "system" in the title, so you can't just add the two numbers for a total. And there are plenty of systems available that have neither "system" or "console" in the title.

But check these links out:
xbox 360 systems - nearly 11,000 up for bid.
completed xbox 360 auctions - over 9,500 already completed.*

At the time I'm writing this, we have over 20,000 auctions (completed/open) for the product "Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console." Both links are only items over $100 to weed out crap that aren't systems, but there are many systems still listed under $100 (by my guess, 80-90% of the 4,000 auctions under $100 are systems.) Both links are sorted by lowest price first so you can see that they are systems.

Now some of the completed auctions from before yesterday ended without a sale, but I'd put the number of xbox 360 systems for sale via ebay (and we're only on day 1 of launch) at least at 15,000, and probably higher...

*must log in to view completed auctions.

2734 when I checked. That might be one or two percent of the entire US supply so far.

Sorry, but that's misleading - there are way more than three thousand xbox 360 systems for sale on ebay. Choose "xbox 360 console" for your search and you'll find nearly five thousand - some of which do have "system" in the title, so you can't just add the two numbers for a total. And there are plenty of systems available that have neither "system" or "console" in the title.

But check these links out:
xbox 360 systems - nearly 11,000 up for bid.
completed xbox 360 auctions - over 9,500 already completed.*

At the time I'm writing this, we have over 20,000 auctions (completed/open) for the product "Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console." Both links are only items over $100 to weed out crap that aren't systems, but there are many systems still listed under $100 (by my guess, 80-90% of the 4,000 auctions under $100 are systems.) Both links are sorted by lowest price first so you can see that they are systems.

Now some of the completed auctions from before yesterday ended without a sale, but I'd put the number of xbox 360 systems for sale via ebay (and we're only on day 1 of launch) at least at 15,000, and probably higher...

*must log in to view completed auctions.

speaking of ebay... a friend of mine is selling his 360 premium back with a bunch of extras a lot cheaper than many of the auctions. check it out if you want:

360 premium http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =8236339030/

When I checked this auction, with 2 minutes to go, the Xbox360 premium package was bid up to $2550. http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Premium-Pac k-Game-console-NEW_W0QQitemZ8234635572QQcategoryZ6 2054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I'm in complete and total shock. I would have never pictured myself saying this, but I wish I had pre-ordered an Xbox360... so I could sell it on eBay and more than quadruple my money in one day ! WTF?!? I mean... they're going to make more... you have to pay $2000 extra to have it *now*?!? That doesn't even include a fricking game!!!

now there starting them at $1000.00, that's just crazy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =8236363019

Q: Do you have the xbox360 listed here in hand ready to ship today the 22nd or tomorrow the 23rd?

A: Due to the unexpected low stock received, the item will ship within 2 weeks. Sorry

Haha, from the short description for this one:

Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console NO RESERVE!!! L@@K!!!
GET IT NOW SOLD OUT!!PERFECT FOR THE RICH SPOILED KID!

Lord a'mighty, have you seen how much these fuckers are going for on ebay? Check out the listings... one even sold for over 5,000 dollars (yes, five thousand).... Wow.