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Now why do you think that NAND isn't sold as "memory" to consumers?

Let's stop right there, because NAND *IS* sold as memory to consumers. For example, let's take one of the largest suppliers of NAND flash products that are consumer facing today... Kingston. And here is an article by them: https://www.kingston.com/us/co.... "Here's a quick primer on what you need to know about NAND Flash memory."

Here is the wikipedia article on NAND: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....

Cameras use "Memory Sticks" -- all based on flash memory.

I could sit here all day a google marketing press releases, articles, and spec sheets that showing how wrong you are, but you can easily do the same. Here you go: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=computer+...

The term memory has been well defined for over 50 years now. Not going to start redefining precise, well established terms because you don't understand them, or think they mean something they don't and never did.

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As for learning what marketing is, well... Considering that I understood the marketing and you did not, I would say that of the two of us, one of us doesn't understand what marketing is at all.

It really could replace DRAM

Maybe some day just not now, and not at launch, which is effectively the broken promise.

Or maybe it really could... at launch:

Intel® Optane SSD DC P4800X with Intel Memory Drive Technology enables data centers to deliver more affordable memory pools by displacing a portion of DRAM or significantly increasing the size of memory pools. This solution transparently integrates the drive into the memory subsystem and presents the SSD as DRAM to the OS and applications.

Available March of last year. Is it better than DRAM in every way? No. Is it better than DRAM in some ways? Yes.

When I first started to buy SSD's for my school, I tried to do some research and quickly became confused about the differences between TLC, MLC, and SLC. I found various sites like this one that gave a good overview, but I didn't find very many that really analyzed the performance differences.

I settled on the Kingston V300 series of disks, an MLC unit that seemed to get decent reviews. It's been treating us well, but I always wonder whether the MLC was worth the extra money over the UV400, a slightly cheaper TLC variant.

Has anyone ever used both MLC and TLC drives and care to comment about whether the differences in performance justify the cost?

When I first started to buy SSD's for my school, I tried to do some research and quickly became confused about the differences between TLC, MLC, and SLC. I found various sites like this one that gave a good overview, but I didn't find very many that really analyzed the performance differences.

I settled on the Kingston V300 series of disks, an MLC unit that seemed to get decent reviews. It's been treating us well, but I always wonder whether the MLC was worth the extra money over the UV400, a slightly cheaper TLC variant.

Has anyone ever used both MLC and TLC drives and care to comment about whether the differences in performance justify the cost?

I already have dual connector USB flash drives. Mine have a USB A connector on one end, and a micro-USB OTG connector on the other end. So I can connect to any OTG-standard compliant phone or tablet, and bring the flash contents to/from a regular PC.

That's actually practical for much of today's current hardware.

My server spec's likely won't be helpful for you. One of the SSD's alone would pretty much use up your budget. Here are the details anyway:

Intel S2600CP Motherboard
2 of E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz
64GB of DDR3L 1600MHz RAM
1000W Power Supply
Intel RMS25KB040 RAID Controller
AXXCBL740MS7P RAID/SAS Cable Kit
2 of 500GB SATA HDD in RAID1 for OS/Boot
2 of Intel 750 Series PCIe 1.2TB SSD for VM storage

Software installed includes:
VMware ESXi 6.0.0
Intel-nvme-1.0e.1.1-1OEM.550.0.0.1391871.x86_64.vib
Scsi-mpt2sas-20.00.00.00.1vmw-1OEM.550.0.0.1331820.x86_64.vib
Vmware-esx-provider-lsiprovider.vib

CAS latency hasn't been measured directly in nanoseconds for some time now. It is now measured in clock cycles. The shorter your clock cycles (the higher your frequency) the shorter in absolute time your CAS latency is for the same number. CAS 10 at 2133 is about the same as CAS 5 on 1066.

CAS latency on Wikipedia
Memory timing on Hardware Secrets
FAQ on RAM timings from Kingston

> That is not a kit you piece of shit liar.

From the Amazon product name: "Kingston Technology ValueRAM 32GB KIT"

From the manufacturer's product data sheet:

"ValueRAM's KVR16R11D4K4/32 is a KIT of four 1G x 72-bit (8-GB) DDR3-1600 CL11 SDRAM (Synchronous DRAM), registered w/parity, 2Rx4 ECC memory modules"

So thanks for wasting OUR time with YOUR nonsense.

How about a computer analogy? I can hose up the configuration on my new Dell desktop and make it unbootable.

But they still get to replace a dead power supply or a hard drive under warranty, no matter what software I'm using or how poorly that software works, unless they can prove that the software caused the particular defect that I am complaining about.

I can also install Kingston RAM in that computer without affecting the status of the warranty. Or a different video card. Or, you know, whatever.

Same with cars. I can buy new tires wherever I want to and have them installed by any competent shop without affecting my car's warranty. I can replace light bulbs myself using aftermarket bulbs.

Now, obviously: If my replacement tires are ridiculously out-of-round and unbalanced, the manufacturer may have a good chance at avoiding replacing my shock absorbers and ball joints under warranty, but they're still going to have to cover the vehicle's paint and the engine parts and [...].

If my aftermarket light bulb can be shown to have caused the wiring harness to catch fire whereas an OEM bulb would not, that repair is almost certainly not going to be covered under warranty.

But back to computers: I can most assuredly run whatever software I want to on my computer, whether it be a desktop, a tablet, or a pocket Android gaming rig.

Again, and again, and again: Unless my software actually breaks the hardware. And in that event it is on them to show that my software has physically damaged the device, and even if they do show that then the rest of the warranty is still intact.

If the backlight goes wonky on the LCD screen, it doesn't matter if the device is happens to be rooted and jailbroken and is in the midst of Deep Hacking on bootloader code, they still get to fix the wonky backlight under warranty so I can go back to coding up my bootloader.

Though, quite obviously: While they're fixing that wonky backlight, one thing they don't have to do is fix the bootloader (software) problem that I created for myself, just as Dell doesn't have to fix a botched FreeBSD installation. (duh.)

The real truth of the matter is that you can't fit a terabyte onto something the size of a fingernail. Even if you could, you would never be able to afford it.

Let's hop a time machine back to 2009. Oh look: Terabytes of storage on something smaller than a fingernail being prototyped. In other news, the microSD working group updated their specifications to include 2 TB storage in that form-factor. That same year, someone got the idea to stitch a bunch of microSD cards together to create a 1 TB drive that would fit on a finger. And earlier this year, Kingston released a 1 TB thumb drive, which is, as you might expect, the side of your thumb.

So the 'real truth' of the matter is that this technology is only a few years away. And by the looks of things, it won't just be affordable: It'll be competitively priced with current solutions.

So I will ask the question again: Why are we continuing to invest in a technology that's many times that size and many fractions of that in terms of storage capacity by volume, dimensions, mass, or any other unit of measurement you care to throw out there? The answer is obvious: DRM. Optical media has been the medium of choice for DRM schemes since the first CD was released. That's its only relevance in the marketplace today.

The technology we have today greatly exceeds optical media storage, and there's been no breakthroughs in optics that suggest it can ever match solid state media for information density. It's dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. So what if I can't fit a terabyte on my fingernail right now, that it has to be the size of my thumb instead? That's still a helluva better than this latest optical media format! And it's available now.

Meanwhile the USB flash drives are quickly growing in capacity - already there are 512GB USB Sticks on the market. (OK, expensive, but considering the fact that they are getting cheaper all the time it's not a big deal, and when the optical disks comes out they may be obsolete already)

http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/personal_business#DTHXP30

I know for a fact that Kingston's SSDnow series are rebadged Intels, so they should perform identically.

You are referring to this, the kingston SSD of TFA is a SSDNow V+ series. That's not the same drive, my friend.

I have citations for everything you asked for, and then a few more:

Wear-leveling is done for bad sectors on a HDD, not as standard practice.

1) I still was considering that wear-leveling. Just after-the-fact wear leveling. :-)
2) However, Western Digital drives do have "Preemptive wear leveling" as a standard practice.

Wrong. I just ran a benchmark and...

On a HDD, writes are followed by an immediate read to verify the data wrote correctly. Take a look at some of the benchmarks on storagereview.com Compare the random writes to random reads: the writes are always slower. StorageReview doesn't compare continuous writes, because that is rare. However, you will find that there are drives specially designed for continuous writes for A/V purposes, that are made to address this issue.

Try to defrag a MLC drive a few times and it'll be dead in a week

My turn. [citation needed]. I'll provide my own references.
According to Kingston

For USB Flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable
customers to “completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years well beyond the life of the hardware.”

Intel was more conservative with their report

...the X-18/25 SSDs have a mean time before failure (MTBF) rating of 1.2 million hours, which is on par with modern server hard drives. In addition, he claimed that the drives can withstand a workload of 100 GB worth of writes a day for five years.

They then go on to explain how it was actually hard to even write 100GB per day.

not degradation of the media itself.

Magnetic media does degrade. For one thing, it warps over time. I can't state all of the methods of failure.

Look, SSDs are great... But they are not ready to replace HDDs.

I agree. Just not for some of the reasons the Wikipedia article lists.

For great value for money on a SSD I'd recommend the 128GB version of these babies. I have 2 and no problems so far.

Hopefully it's getting better. I bought a couple of these, 128GB model, and so far I've not been disappointed with read or write speed (in fact it's been snappier than the Seagate I had before). Granted, I'm not running a busy server. As for it not supporting TRIM, oh well, it's half-to-a-third the price of a Corsair, and WinXP which is the OS I put on one of them doesn't even support TRIM.

That not bad storage per chip. Now they need to be able to pack 16 of them into a standard flash stick, for 128GB flash sticks. I'll bet they top out at 64GB per stick though.

If you're willing to pay, there's already a 256GB memory stick, I see it in stock for about 800$ + VAT here, so I guess this makes it possible to go to 512 GB. Not that I really see the sense in this product given the access speed, but I guess it's good for bragging rights.

Seems a lot of 4gb cards are SDHC and/or don't work in non-HC cardslots.

A quick google search, a Sandisk FAQ and even the Wikipedia article we both referenced state "SDHC allows standard-compliant capacities in excess of 2 GB." seem to suggest this might be the case.

Kingston even state SDHC starts at 4gb. Not claiming I understand why, but I've had some experience of 4gb cards not working in non-SDHC, some cameras don't seem to like anything more than 2GB. YMMV! HTH!

Mac Pro and Xserve:

Look at the price of RAM on the Apple Store, then look at the SAME RAM, on http://www.crucial.com/ or http://www.kingston.com/.

Thousands of dollars difference, for maximum you can get RAM, dude...
(or it was, last spring: not bothering with Apple unless they stop shoving their monopoly/extortion in their customers)

Also the fact that I cant choose the monitor I want for the 'mid-range', because it's built in.

Fock 'em- I'm not their dog, I'm independent, and I require sufficient screen res, sufficient CPU, and sufficient RAM, and they give me only one choice, that being the Mac Pro, which is stupid for what I need.

(looked at different configs for different purposes: not just one)

I was just discussing this the other day, and my friend found this: http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/flashendurance.asp

($800+ per 4GB stick vs $200 for 2GB)

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KTD-WS667/8G

two 4GB sticks for a Dell 2950 for $1050...WTF?

1GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC Reg with Parity CL5 DIMM Dual Rank, x8

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/Parts Info.asp?ktcpartno=KVR800D2D8P5/1G

These things are great as backup if you have an additional device (like a camera) that uses SD cards. Here's another one. Are there other makers of these thumb drive-sized USB adapter/readers?

Even cooler would be a micro-SD card inside an SD adapter inside a thumb drive reader - matryoshka-ish!

The rules were unworkable: DO NOT TAKE YOUR WORK HOME.

The other comments in this thread seem to only talk about the file size issue of the picture you snap. But there are actually three other factors you need to keep in mind. And since the parent mentioned that he would be OK with a 100 MB image, these factors would become readily apparent:

1. Battery life. If you snap pictures with lossless formatting, and thus increase the storage space used per picture, your battery life will plummet. Simply because the camera will be expending much more energy, either transmitting the picture via the wireless link or writing to an internal flash card.

2. Rapid pictures. The larger your images are, the longer it will take to save them. The internals of the camera can only buffer so much data. If you are saving large files, the cameras will take a long time to save them, so you will get much more of a delay between pictures.

3. Save speed. The larger the files, the longer it will take to save them to internal flash or via a wireless link.

3a. Good flash cards will transfer data at up to 20 MB/sec (http://www.kingston.com/digitalmedia/x/). Average cards will do up to 8 MB/sec, if that. So a 100 MB file will take 5 seconds to save on the best flash media.

3b. At full 11 Mb/sec (1.375 MB/sec), a 100 MB file would take 72.727 seconds to save. At full 54 Mb/sec (6.75 MB/sec), it would take 14.814 seconds to save. At full 108 Mb/sec (13.5 MB/sec), it would take 7.407 seconds to save. Those numbers are using the full bandwidth for data transfer, so double those times for real-world scenarios with not-perfect signal quality and wireless overhead.

In other words, the biggest obstacle I can foresee is the time to get the picture from the lens to the disk. After that is the battery life.

That's not uncommon. When a company doesn't want to carry/sell a product, instead of saying no, they just price themselves out of the market. That way: a) The customer never hears a, "no", which is something to avoid. b) If someone actually does buy from you at that price, what the hell, you made a buttload.
I ran into this on my home printer. I bought an HP 2550 printer (for doing all of the printing for my wedding). It comes standard with 64MB of RAM. This is plenty until you start sending graphics to the printer. So to stop the "Out of Memory" errors, I decided to upgrade the memory. The printer would handle an extra 128MB SODIMM.
Price from HP: US$800
My response: Bullshit!
Price from Kingston: US$50
And, it only took me moments to find the right part with Kingston's website (they have a really nice memory finder). Also, Kingston offers a lifetime warranty and puts out a solid product, so no worries about a fly by night company.
So, in the end, I got what I wanted and HP got to stay out of the memory business, without ever explicitly telling me "no".

My favorite computer memories

If I run my livecd distro in the RAM, with the "toram" boot option, then I run out of ram if I try and burn a cd of near 700 MB with K3B. If I plan on doing that, I cannot do "toram", and that slows things down.

Another GB on top of the 1 GB I already have would be interesting.

Kingston says the 512 MB sticks are $65.00 each, and are available April 25. They have to be installed in pairs. Wondering if I might wait, and see if a new, lower price is posted in a month or so.

I'll have to admit that the $65.00 is a lot lower than we used to have to pay for RAM like this.

... i imagine to do otherwise will add the cost of having your warranty voided.

Thanks, I didn't know that. It's always nice to hear there's still laws on the books meant to protect us consumers.

Kingston's got a page with a little more on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, including the Supreme Court's interpretation of a relevant piece of the Sherman Antitrust Act.

But the reason that it's a bad idea (as posted by several others already), is that system ram is MUCH slower then video ram.

How so? The benchmarks seem to show that this isn't true. The problem before was that the motherboards memory bandwidth was much lower than what the memory could support. This is now not the case. This isn't like the AGP slot which had a total bandwidth of a little over 520MB/s, which is one of the reasons that AGP cards using system memory were pretty slow.

According to Kingston:
# Peak bandwidth for PC2100 DIMMs
(8 Bytes) x (266 MHz Data Rate) = 2,128 MB/second which is rounded to 2,100 MB/second or 2.1 GB/second.

# Peak bandwidth for PC2700 DIMMs
(8 Bytes) x (333 MHz Data Rate) = 2,664 MB/second or 2.7 GB/second.

# Peak bandwidth for PC3200 DIMMs
(8 Bytes) x (400 MHz Data Rate) = 3,200 MB/second or 3.2 GB/second.

With that much bandwidth the bottleneck in the systems this kind of card is designed for will be elsewhere.

Instead of a memory stick, I bought a PCMCIA sleeve for my iPaq and put a 5GB Kingston Datapak in it.

This gives me plenty of room for all the things I want to have with me (music, movies, porn, etc).

One of the most handy utilities for me is SPB Pocket Plus v2, it provides a *real* close button to end applications (instead of just minimizing them), a good file explorer, some enhancement for Pocket IE, a Today screen plugin that shows memory, storage, backlight adjustment bar and more.

I use a calculator program called 1-Calc, a fabulous MS Project compatible project planner called Pocket Plan, a Backup/Recovery tool called Sprite Backup which will let you restore your system without having to install the program first (the backup file contains the restore .exe) and it also has a conduit for backing up to your PC if your handheld doesn't have enough room for storing it. I have two different drawing programs, Pocket Artist for bitmap editing and Vectorsoft Draw for vector based work. Resco Picture Viewer is handy for carrying around pictures of your kids, etc.

I use BetaPlayer as my preferred movie viewer and PocketPlayer as my music player. Windows Media Player will work for most things, but doesn't handle DivX like BetaPlayer.

When it comes to games, I have Chesscapade - a battlechess type program, Pocket Doom and Pocket Hexen, Bejeweled, the Sony-brand Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune are both good, and of course I have the premiere 3D RPG Ultima Underworld, which plays just like the original PC version.

When I worked at Apple, I got a sweet deal (25% off) my new 12" PowerBook. But instead of ordering it with plenty of RAM, I just ordered the minimum (256MB) then surfed over to Kingston and got an extra 512MB bringing it to 768MB for like $95, versus probably $200 (retail) to have it pre-installed.

The punch line here is that Kingston gives Apple employees a nice discount on RAM, so all the smart Apple employees always buy their RAM at Kingston.

So when my PB arrived, before I even turned it on, I just opened it up and dropped in the extra SO-DIMM. Made me happy to have lots of RAM and to know I got a good deal.

Holy tangent, Batman... sorry.

The newer, "high-speed" SD cards are "up to 10Mbps", roughly 2.25 megabyte/sec, much faster than USB 1.1's average 500 kbyte/sec. I have a "high-speed" SD card and I really do get 2+ mB/sec transfer rates.

That law governs warranties, and forbids companies from requiring customers to buy service from them as a condition of the warranty. How does this keep the fastener guys from keeping the fastener codes secret?

The original post suggested that a product manufacturer might use these "smart" fasteners as a way to restrict who can service the product and who can make replacement parts that will work with that product. Magnuson-Moss prohibits both of those, and I doubt that the feds would take kindly to the use of technical measures to attempt an end run around it. With few exceptions, a manufacturer can't require use of its parts or supplies as a condition of keeping the warranty in effect. An automaker can't void your warranty because you used a third-party replacement oil filter for your last oil change. A printer manufacturer can't void your warranty because you used a third-party ink cartridge or toner cartridge in your printer. For the most part, the only way the manufacturer can require use of its parts/supplies is if it provides them free of charge.

(I probably should've picked a better link...there are several useful links here. The text of the act is here, and you can find some interpretations of it here and here.)

Depending on what exact type of SO-DIMM memory it takes, you might be surprised at memory prices (I was). IIRC, a PentiumII is probably PC66 or PC100 SDRAM?

KVR66X64SO/128 128MB PC66 SODIMM $54.00

PC100 Kingston SO-DIMMs are $56/128MB, $119/256MB
PC133 Kingston SO-DIMMs are $54/128MB, $115/256MB

(prices from Kingston)

We're in the process of upgrading a bunch of machines at work (desktops purchased back in 2000). So I've been catching up on memory prices for a lot of equipment. Most desktop memory is around $80 for a 256MB PC100/PC133 module. Cheap upgrade, and it gives us another 2 years of life on these boxes (all are 600-800Mhz CPUs).

(Also has the side-benefit that the employees know that things are still getting upgraded, even if money is tight.)

Lets go oevr an example:

PC:

Slice1: OS
slice2: Load game from hd
slice3: initialize game
slice4: OS
slice5: network monitoring
slice6: switch back to game ....
Each context switch requires a refresh form main memory and a huge huge penalty in regaurds to the predictive branching algorithm for cpu pipelining. the context switches occur often, and each time the memory bus must be ustilized to refresh the cache and resupply the pipeline.

Console (Xbox et al)
slice1: load game frm DVd
slice2: Rungame ....
little to no context switching and the biggest thing on the bus is graphics. It doesn't have any context switching and thus the memory bus is almost dedicated to the GPU, since instructiosn are about 1/100 the size of textures.

As for jaming everything, a PC graphics card know it has a small and busy bus to get it's textures, so it grabs as much as it can when the pipe is available and stores it in the video ram. While a console GPU knows the bus won't be very busy and it can grab the textures when ever. Theres a big big difference in memory bandwidth. Peak bandwidth for the highest rated DDR is theoretically 3.2 gb/s Reference. While a PS2 has a theoetical memory bandwidth of 3.2 gb per second Reference. The xbox has a bandwidth of 6.4 gb/s Reference. Now for the PC it divides this bandwidth between every device that is on the memory bus, the GPU/CPU/carious controllers and the device bus. The Xbox/PS2 dedicates it to GPU/cpu. A Pc GPU has maybe 10% of the memory bus to itself, 0.32 gigs/s while a PS2/Xbox GPU has essentially the whole bus. A scene in NTSC of PAL will never require 3.2 gigs of textures every second. But a 1260x1024 res monitor will require more then 0.32gigs/s of textures thus the high ram sizes of graphics cards.

For anyone who's buying from them, stay away from the accessories. Mice are universal, PS/2 or USB. Laptop hard drives are universal, and the only thing you might need to worry about is height (9.5mm or smaller?). Laptop memory may not be completely universal, but it's pretty easy to find compatible stuff. All or virtually all external USB storage devices are compatible with Linux.

I ran into this at a client I was consulting for. I solved it by using a Maxtor OneTouch USB external hardrive. Don't use this if the machine doesn't have a USB 2.0 port (its just too slow on a V1.1 USB port). I placed a copy of Linux on this drive. I configured the machine for dual-boot and left the NTFS partition as the default. This way, the machine can be given back without any reversal of customizations, other than the config.ini file. I even set up a batch file that would restore the original file.

If you are looking for something a bit more concealed or you don't have USB V2.0, take a look at the Kingston DataPak Portable PC Card Hard Drive

Samsung is korean, there's no memory manufacturer called wintel, and I dont think IBM manufactures their own SDRAM. Maybe solid-state devices and flash storage. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hynix is korean too

Of the ones you mentioned, only Kingston is american, but their main operation is located in asia (China, Taiwan and Malaysia)

I remember around 1995 I went to a Melbourne Computer Expo. Every stall I went to had a pair of these JUSTer Active 75 80W speakers. They sounded awesome, and at just AU$80, I got myself a pair.

Nowdays, my system consists of:
Gentoo GNU/Linux 1.4
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
CoolerMaster Aero 7+ HSF
ASUS A7N8XDeluxe (nVidia nForce 2 based)
Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2x256MB & 1x512MB DDR-333 dual-channeled)
PowerColor Evil Master II Multi-Display Edition (ATi Radeon 8500)
Maxtor 60GB 2MB 7400RPM IDE
Seagate 120GB 8MB 7400RPM SATA (x2 in RAID)
Hitachi CML175SXW B 17" Multimedia TFT LCD
Pioneer 12X DVD
ASUS 52x24x52x
Enermax expensive as all hell PSU
Enermax FS-710 Aluminum case
Netgear WG311 802.11g network card
Logitech Cordless iTouch keyboard
Logitech TrackMan Marble Wheel
JUSTer Active 75 80W

As you can see, my speakers and mouse are the odd ones out - both aren't made anymore but I'll never give them up (unless I get a bigger apartment which allows for a 5.1 speaker setup).

If the article meant to say 3GBytes, then how in the world will the PCI *at 64bits and 133MHz, it's 1 GB/sec transfer) bus keep up? Or even RAMBUS memory, which, here says it has a bandwidth of 4.2GB/sec. (So, kinda means you couldn't have more than one SCSI system at a time and get full bandwidth from both.) Now, if you may have to have memory banks for each SCSI component... ick.

32mb per image.
24 images = 768mb +/-
1GB Kingston CompactFlash card = $856 dollars
1 roll film = $2.50 +/-
Developing charge = $4.00 +/-

What does it all mean? I can purchase 131 24 frame rolls of film (more if I buy in bulk) AND get them developed for the price of the card required to store 24 images on this thing.

I understand that the quality is phenomenal, but unless you're printing these shots into Iris prints, I feel this camera is overkill.

Photos have been just fine in terms of razor sharp quality and colour for the last 10 years...why do we need to make them 1000x better?

Okay...cue the flames.

They list several that are compatible with the iPAQ on their website.

Of course there is the MicroDrive Which comes in the 340MB or 1GB flavors.
The Kingston DataPak Which holds 260MBor 2GB/5GB storage capacity.
and the Toshiba MK2001MPL a 2GB PCMCIA HDD or the 5GB version

Many of these are cheaper per megabyte than the MicroDrive and will give you much more storage for around the same price. They are supposed to work with any desktop Windows OS (98/ME/2K/XP) and Compaq says they will work with the iPAQ as well.

I bought the Toshiba 5GB and hooked it up to my iPAQ so I could play DivX movies with the Pocket DivX Player from ProjectMayo. I also store a whole bunch of MP3s on it and can transfer the card between my computer and iPAQ for easy file transfers.

These little hard drives are great for anyone who wants portable storage that is large capacity and is pretty easy to use.

They list several that are compatible with the iPAQ on their website.

Of course there is the MicroDrive Which comes in the 340MB or 1GB flavors.
The Kingston DataPak Which holds 260MBor 2GB/5GB storage capacity.
and the Toshiba MK2001MPL a 2GB PCMCIA HDD or the 5GB version

Many of these are cheaper per megabyte than the MicroDrive and will give you much more storage for around the same price. They are supposed to work with any desktop Windows OS (98/ME/2K/XP) and Compaq says they will work with the iPAQ as well.

I bought the Toshiba 5GB and hooked it up to my iPAQ so I could play DivX movies with the Pocket DivX Player from ProjectMayo. I also store a whole bunch of MP3s on it and can transfer the card between my computer and iPAQ for easy file transfers.

These little hard drives are great for anyone who wants portable storage that is large capacity and is pretty easy to use.

They list several that are compatible with the iPAQ on their website.

Of course there is the MicroDrive Which comes in the 340MB or 1GB flavors.
The Kingston DataPak Which holds 260MBor 2GB/5GB storage capacity.
and the Toshiba MK2001MPL a 2GB PCMCIA HDD or the 5GB version

Many of these are cheaper per megabyte than the MicroDrive and will give you much more storage for around the same price. They are supposed to work with any desktop Windows OS (98/ME/2K/XP) and Compaq says they will work with the iPAQ as well.

I bought the Toshiba 5GB and hooked it up to my iPAQ so I could play DivX movies with the Pocket DivX Player from ProjectMayo. I also store a whole bunch of MP3s on it and can transfer the card between my computer and iPAQ for easy file transfers.

These little hard drives are great for anyone who wants portable storage that is large capacity and is pretty easy to use.

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here are some of the cards that've boot rom capability

Kingston 10/100

Kti 10/100

So, just so that ppl understand. The chip that is on their 128meg DIMM is actually only a 256Mbit chip, or to put it in nice terms, each chip can hold 256kbytes.

What it does is use a shitload of them.

Kingston does a better job of explaining it so I will let them.

16k molecular scale chips are a big deal.

It can't be much longer before the first fast solid-state eprom drives hit the market.

For perspective, CD-R in the early 90s cost about $1500 for a drive and $20 for media. CD-R didn't see consumer acceptance until these numbers fell about 4x, to ~$400 for the drives and $5 for media. Widespread use required a 10x drop in prices. And this is a technology whose competitors (floppies, Zip disks) had serious flaws. ATA Flash, on the other hand, needs prices to drop by a factor of about 400, just to be on par with a mature, reliable, accepted technology. And, even if those prices were achieved tomorrow (via some miracle) there are still a lot of cons:

• it's slow -- under 4MB/sec versus 20+ MB/sec for a typical hard drive .
• it's not especially dense: it appears you can get 1GB on a PC card, which works out to maybe 20GB in a 3.5" IDE enclosure. New magnetic disks fit 20GB on a single 3.5" platter; you can put five such platters in one enclosure.
• it has a finite life, typically <500000 rewrites per sector. This is fine for digital cameras, but it's no good for a busy database or swap partition.

That doesn't, of course, preclude the invention of some new solid-state product. A cheap, dense, low-power, reliably non-volatile SS technology would be truly great. But these innovations aren't falling out of the sky (new memory-related inventions are few and far between) and it has a lot of catching up to do before it bests the phenomenal attributes of a $200 hard drive. I didn't sell my Quantum stock today, and I probably won't tomorrow.

cheers,
mike

I want to upgrade a 3 year old tower that requires very non-standard RAM. Ordering direct from a vendor or manufacturer would cost about $200. Searches on meta-store engines didn't do much better. When I checked most auction sites and meta-auction engines, I got zero hits. The sellers just aren't there.

But at eBay, I find a half-dozen new listings of them every goddam week, selling around $130. All of the other sites put together can't touch eBay's volume of sellers.

So what would eBay have to gain from allowing meta engines to spider them? Nothing! They dominate the auction market. If you really want to find something at the lowest price, you have to include eBay in your search. And if you already have to go to eBay, why bother with the meta engines or the other smaller auction sites at all?