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A screen you can touch? Like the LG Prada, announced before the IPhone...

I call bullshit. The Prada, and the touchscreen feature, was announced nine days after the iPhone announcement.

The Prada was announced in December 2006...Also, the Prada was in the stores by February, whereas the iPhone hit the stores in the end of June, four months later. (Not that it matters, since as people pointed out to me, that quote wasn't actually really a quote...)

A screen you can touch? Like the LG Prada, announced before the IPhone...

I call bullshit. The Prada was announced nine days after the iPhone announcement.

According to the LG India page http://www.in.lge.com/Product/Products-Details.aspx?cat=368&pid=9636&subcat=Watchphone&parent=Mobile%20Phone it costs 39900 INR i.e. ~870$. In actual stores it would be cheaper though, due to discounts.

Even CorelCache and MirrorDot have the 404 page. :)

Google's cache has the text, and it's all in TFS.

Here's the product page, quad-band. Google Shopping says these are $1200.

I'll buy one just as soon as they come with a Microvision display.

49,990 Indian Rupees mean = 1,084.26 US$ (according to xe.com) - no way the hardware or RD costs are that high, so they are milking it for the novelty factor for now. Seems India has a large enough middle class in search of status symbols now as well. But I wonder what technological breakthrough took so long that wrist-phones only show up now.

The LG Product page mentions a 510mAh battery for 7-8 days no standby, and again no easily replaceable battery it seems.

I'm sure it's more than GBP 10, but still:
LG GSM Mobile Phone Watch

The link above the article was for LCD monitors.
This one looks nice, http://www.lge.com/us/computer-products/monitors/LG-led-monitor-W2486L.jsp

It is an LG, so a bit pricey and I have seen similar size HD TV with HDMI in at a lower cost.

For more models and pricing there is always New Egg

LG BD 370 Network Blu-ray Disc Player

http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/bd370.jhtml

Also supports Netcast, Cinema, Netflix ,Youtube

Plus, I don't know of any brand of monitor that comes with a HDMI input.

Never heard of HP, Gateway, or LG?

Exactly. And don't forget, more draconian DRM.

Case in point. I just bought an LG DN898 Upconverting DVD player (not HD, not BluRay). Per LG and the Best Buy rep it would upconvert to 1080i on the component (Analog) output. In reality? "Copyrighted" movies play at 480p (non-upconverted), copied, pirated, and other DVDs will play at the full upconverted 1080i.

Yes, they made it more appealing for the customer to get pirated movies now.

So thanks to this encouragement I have bought my last DVD and look forward to only expanding my library through pirating, as pirated movies will now look *better* on my TV! (Oh and no more commercials, FBI notice, or other crap I can't skip).

* If you don't believe me btw, just check here (Warning PDF), page 5 under component connection:

"For 720p and 1080p resolution on the component video output, only non-copy protected discs can be played back. If the disc is copy protected, it will be displayed at the 480p resolution."

Costs of the disks is FAR more important, at least to me.

Here's my set up: HC1500 ($700 when the HC1600 was announced), LHT734 ($120 with product replacement play at Radio Shack), plastic laminate screen ($15 as advised at the AVS forums), PS3 ($400). Not high end by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't consider it cheap either. Certainly cheaper than most "recommended" Blue-ray set up and much cheaper than the perceived cost of getting a good image out of Blue-ray. I play video games and watch DVDs on it. I've watched Blue-rays with it and they look amazing. In terms of image quality, it's painfully obvious that it's better than DVD. I don't care, because when it comes down to it, I can buy a DVD at a MUCH lower price than a Blue-ray in a clear majority of the cases and DVD still looks good. Not exceptional, or jaw dropping better, but good. I'm okay with that. If the Blue-rays were the same exact cost as a DVD and there were a $5 bin at Walmart with Blue-rays, well it would be a different story altogethor.

I have a home theater and I don't care about Blue-ray. Until the prices of movies comes down and the selection goes through the roof, I'm sticking with DVDs.

Call it what you like, but handheld multitouch is fairly novel, and the automatic screen-turning isn't too shabby either.

These things aside, with other nearly-iPhones that are around (such as by LG and Meizu), Apple still seems to be doing quite well on that end. Maybe there's something to be said about brand name (and, as some say, attention to detail)? By restricting the realm of what is an Apple device, this can be seen as an attempt to guarantee consistent quality.

I've got an LG Voyager and it's got the row for numbers.

The iPhone would do a lot better in the UK market if it had any 3 of the following:-

• A 3.2 megapixel or better camera with flash
• A camera that can take VGA resolution video at at least 30 FPS
• A GPS, and SatNav software
• 3G

It has a lovely interface and some good features, but it's overall just overpriced and underspecced for the UK market. I looked at the iPhone, thought "sexy interface", then saw the lack of features and decided to go for an LG KU990 instead.

LG RC199H

I have one (I live in the U.S.) Mine is from LG (see: http://us.lge.com/dvr/). It is very convenient, but leaves a lot to be desired coming from a Tivo user.

Pros:
* Built in, no extra box laying around
* Records HD (over the air NTSC and cable QAM)
* Has a T.V. guide built in

Cons:
* Built in, what am I going to do when the HD goes south, hopefully it's easy to slap in a new one
* It's NO way near as smart as Tivo (i.e. season pass and extra features)
* Doesn't have networking, so I can't download the shows like I do with my Tivo
* Sometimes it just decides not to record a show

The last bullet is why I didn't cancel Tivo, I just moved it to the bedroom as the backup recorder. It won't be in HD but at least I still get to see the show.

one tiny little bit.

THE COMPETITION

When the article talks about all the things they needed to work out how the phone connects to networks and how the brain gets microwaved (or not) it fails to mention, that this is only news to Apple, not all the other mobile phone manufacturers of the world. Especially when the article talks about the phone being light years ahead it completely resolves into pure Apple fanboy talk.

Those are just three examples of phones that you could compare to the Iphone:
http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/ke850.jhtml
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch.htm
http://uk.samsungmobile.com/mobile/SGH-F700

I have one just like the last Samsung model. Mine also has WLan and, like the Samsung, it has a full sized keyboard. Nokia is not even on that list. All of the phone makers have a wide variaty of phones to fit every customers preferred style. Candy bar being the best liked. Many have important features that the Iphone is lacking. Like UMTS support to get decent speed for surfing whe web. Opera build a decent web browser complete with a proxy that "refits" webpages so they look good on a small screen years ago. It is written in Java and works on many phones.

The mobile phone market has enough players that the competition actually works (not like the OS market for PCs). Of those three phones up the all of them use a different OS for example. The HTC model even uses Microsoft Mobile, an OS that sucks less and less with each version, because they face a steep competition by Symbian. And Google just joined.

There are just two things that were new with the IPhone. First was the touchscreen that you can operate on with more than one finger. A feature that is pretty cool and was therefore swiftly copied by everyone else.

The second thing is the Apple marketing. The only thing right now that makes Apple stand out. That and their tie in with Itunes. Itunes has such a large market share, it almost became a monopoly. And now they try to extend that power to other products and markets. Sounds familiar? Another reason why the IPod-ITunes connection works so good.

And that brings us to the last little thing which the article good completely right. Back in 2002 (I would say even earlier, but the article says that was when Jobs woke up to that fact) it became clear that phones will aquire more and more memory and computing power, just like the regular PC. Some people prefer to have funtions seperate on different devices. They like their music player, phone and PDA, or just one of them. Other people like to have everything in one device. And Jobs/Apple wanted to sell Ipods to those people as well. So the Ipod needed to become a phone and a PDA.

And it did. Ipod touch is a PDA and the Iphone is a smartphone.

Considered the LG GGCH20L drive? http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/bluray_ggch20l.jhtml - Blu-Ray and HD-DVD support from a single drive, currently selling in the UK for £140 including software. Okay, that's not cheap, but it's a hell of a lot less expensive than they used to be. Standalone dual format players are also out there from LG and Samsung.

I'm certainly of the opinion that essentially we're now stuck with both formats. Blu-Ray has an edge in movies, IMHO, but HD-DVD has more TV and lower prices. With dual format drives coming down in price, I think it won't be long before people just look for either HD format, without caring if it's HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

iPhone having a touch screen GUI isn't a valid reason for it not having J2ME support. Just in example look at some other phones that don't have the normal form factor that traditional phones and that have support for J2ME.

• Nokia E90 Communicator

• Nokia E61i

• Sony-Ericsson P1i

• LG KU990

• HTC Touch

As you can see all those phones support J2ME. The real reason why iPhone doesn't have J2ME support is the same reason why it didn't have MMS support: Apple just couldn't deliver.

I also don't think that there is any reason to change from J2ME to any other framework ff you can do the application in J2ME. If you can't do the application in J2ME, the next choice is S60. J2ME support is built in virtually every phone meaning and S60 is also very popular. Why limit yourself to a device and framework that has only a million users when you can go to tens and hundreds of millions of users?

I usually try not to get involved in these cell phone provider witch hunt threads becuase they never seem to go anywhere.**

Anyway, Verizon just recently released their iPhone competitor, the LG Voyager. Without performing a full comparison, I think the most fair comparison is to say that it does lack WiFi and the slick multi-touch interface, but it opens on the side for a full tactile QWERTY keyboard (in addition to the software keyboard), will allow you to SMS more than one person at once, does have a touch screen on the outside, and will browse OTA at full 3G speeds. In short, it's almost everything the iPhone should have been. Actually, just the tactile keyboard is enough to sell me. Like I said, I won't go through a full comparison of the two, but in my opinion the Voyager is a better overall package.

**I am of the opinion that all providers are equally bad and that you just have to pick the one that works for you. In my case, that happens to be Verizon, but only because 1) I have a good friend who works for them and who can help me out with the usual account issues, 2) my house is on the edge of Sprint coverage and my Sprint phone spent more time bouncing between Sprint and Alltel towers than actually receiving calls, and 3) Cingular/AT&T screwed me bad in a past lifetime and I refuse to go back to them. T-Mobile doesn't have a license to operate in my area and Alltel is a consideration, but in the past I've found their coverage to be somewhat lacking once I got out of their "back yard".

http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_history .jsp
http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_overvie w.jsp

Corporate Name LG Electronics Inc.
Established October 1, 1958 (As a private Company)
Corporate Office LG Twin Towers
20, Yeouido-dong, Youngdungpo-gu, Seoul, Korea 150-721
Tel: 82-2-3777-1114
URL: http://www.lge.com/

http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_history .jsp
http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_overvie w.jsp

Corporate Name LG Electronics Inc.
Established October 1, 1958 (As a private Company)
Corporate Office LG Twin Towers
20, Yeouido-dong, Youngdungpo-gu, Seoul, Korea 150-721
Tel: 82-2-3777-1114
URL: http://www.lge.com/

http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_history .jsp
http://www.lge.com/about/corporate/company_overvie w.jsp

Corporate Name LG Electronics Inc.
Established October 1, 1958 (As a private Company)
Corporate Office LG Twin Towers
20, Yeouido-dong, Youngdungpo-gu, Seoul, Korea 150-721
Tel: 82-2-3777-1114
URL: http://www.lge.com/

oh yeah, cause I'm sure Apple hadn't already started on the iPhone when the Prada was announced

seriously, even Apple couldn't pull off the iPhone in 1 month

it's a bit like this one: http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/b2050(uk) .jhtml

Shows that some companies still make phones that can be used... to call people and nothing else.

Cell carriers do distribute phones with mini- and micro-SD card slots, and the ability to load your mp3 files without a problem. Here is an example.

"Lots of people don't want a [convergent] device."

That's why there are carriers like Verizon that make tons of money crippling their phones and selling phones that are pretty much useless, like the LG Mio, for a premium. You just never hear about them because geeks want "just a phone" as much as Batman wants "just a belt." In other words, you are reading the wrong website if you are looking for news about just-a-cell-phone. That probably would have had heavy coverage in 1973 (or the early '80s when they were available to the public), but not any more.

As far as Nokia's nomenclature, I agree they don't "get it." But as far as their product goes, it's exactly what a different group of "lots of people" want. For me, the fewer things I carry around in my pocket, the better... especially if it is a Nokia N80.

LG already offers a glossy black laptop (T1 Express Dual).

http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/t1%20expr ess%20dual.jhtml

And Antec has been offering glossy black HTPC cases for a while now.

http://www.antec.com/uk/pro_en_lifeStyle.html

Looks like Apple is behind in the game this time.

Well, Sony always had uber-sexy Vaio laptops that made people drool for as long as Apple's Powerbooks. And many other manufacturers have great designs. as well. For instance, LG has nice looking laptops and Fujitsu has some beautiful slate TabletPCs.

Apple has a very strong brand. They can make a white plastic box, slap a logo on it and it will sell. I am not saying that they don't have great design, just that they are only marginally better than designs from other manufacturers. But Apples are perceived to be much more stylish, because Apple is... "different".

... for not a much money, and after a good while i settled on a LG Flatron T710SH 17" flat CRT. Excellent image, great contrast, load of options, and puts to shame a lot of much more expensive LCDs regarding image quality (typical of Flatron tubes), which, combined with the dead pixels issue with LCDs, were the reasons i chosed it. It's not too bulky and fits nicely on my desk.

To be fair, LCDs have gotten much better lately, but when it boils down to bang for the buck a good CRT is still the way to go. No contest.

17" specs here. Apparently the "Show 17" monitors" option on LGs site doesn't strip "featured" 19" monitors.

Well, Samsung's recent 17" CRT consumes 80W, whereas LG's latest consumes 103W. I'd say the info isn't that dated, w.r.t. the companies involved. It's still twice an LCD.

I'm using an LG1710S and everything seems fine.

System Details:
XF86 4.3.0.1 (debian testing)
Nvidia FX5600, 256M
LG 1710S (17", .264 pixel pitch, .16ms Refresh)

LG says

These are very cheap in Australia right now. I paid $625 for mine around 4 months ago or so, and todays prices are $555 at computer parts land Very good place (in Melbourne)! Must be the cheapest place in Australia to buy hardware.. Apparantly people come from tasy?

Anyways, thats off topic, but if you need a new monitor, i recommend that one, or the 19" version!

That's why I got an LG VX3100
It works, it makes calls, and has the bare minimum of other crap included with it. 2 games, and that's about it.

What about the LG PVR?

Probably.

LG makes everything, including inexpensive multi-format drives.

I have a Plextor PX-708A. Writes everything except DVD-RAM, which almost nobody uses or wants (old format disc in a cartridge).

There are many other vendors of multi-format drives.

I prefer the + format, as it is easier to write to because of "linking" (a low level format thing), and hence also offers the highest speeds. The best you can get seems to be 8x DVD+R/RW media, though I use 4x media and my Plextor burns it at 6-8x. Go figure. There is a crop of 12x drives just comming out this summer.

And as for a competitively priced drive that reads and writes all formats at decent speeds, you can't go wrong with the LG GSA-4081B. It serves me nicely.

I think they mean these products

I want a house where I plug in my toaster and it is detected by the network. I know, I know, windows would tell me, "I've detected a new toaster, would you like to install the drivers?" But when you get that really cool internet refrigerator from LG it could actually connect to the network via the power plug, the server could detect it and do its thing to configure it. What good is an internet refrigerator without all your bookmarks??

My Solution: Would be to use a split type airconditioner. These generally have a wall mounted blower on the inside, and on the outside there is cooling box like central Airconditioning, except this has it's own fan system. Panasonic does have them, but they do not have a link on their page anymore and LGE as well.

I, for one, welcome our XML-based open-stendards-driven Denmarkian overlords.

Please accept this LG CD-RW drive as a token of my aprreciation.

Geez, they make phones, hard drives, and that crazy internet fridge.

If a drive can be trashed by a Mandrake CD, lord only knows what my cooking will do to their fridge. Eek.

For some LCD screens it's enough just to let the screen go to standby/suspend mode, pressing the on/off won't really benefit that much. For example, my LG Flatron 1810B is specified as consuming "less than 3W" of energy when in suspend or standby, and the same "less than 3W" when turned off(!). I haven't measured the consumption, though.

are already happening my friend..

check out LG's product. LINK

and Samsung has one as well as Electrolux...but I can't be bothered giving links.

Try a networked stove or the internet enabled refrigerator. The refirgerator link also has an internet enabled air conditioner.