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Oh no, please don't make assumptions about what commoners thought many hundreds of years ago. The GP is right. It's one of those annoying perpetuated myths that there was once widespread belief that the earth was flat. Of course you will find some flat-earthers throughout history of mankind (though some were more joking or hoaxers than serious), but it generally cannot have been a widespread belief. It's fairly easy to check that the earth is spherical and sailors knew it since Antiquity. See e.g. here or here or any other link you'll find with a quick Google search.

On a side note, in the context of the discussion, what would Joe Sixpack's beliefs have to do with the analogy to climate science? That Joe Sixpack is an indicator of the current state of the art in the field?

Hey, how is that swamp draining going? Trump is nominating someone who leaked classified information and wasn't prosecuted by the FBI, considered someone for secretary of state who was convicted of sharing classified information and Trump is lauding the Philippines leader who compares himself to Hitler and who has death squads that kill people on suspicion of having committed a crime. Why is Trump doing this? There is no knowable reason except, I don't know, maybe that it will allow Trump to have a business deal go through in the Philippines. Swamp drained yet?

Actually the government is quite popular and Merkel is going for a 4th term.

German Chancellor Angela Merkelâ(TM)s popularity has fallen to its lowest point in half a decade

If Merkel wins a fourth term it will because there is no credible opposition.

... foreign country directly altered ...

The undereducated middle class whites of the rust belt region were not in a foreign country.

Trump won seven out of 10 non-college white men and six out of 10 non-college women.

The largest voting bloc were the ones who didn't show up.

And 31415926535897 is correct in that HRC and DNC baggages had enough anchors in them to sink the fucking Titanic.

[Disclaimer: I didn't vote for the goddam pussy-grabber.]

http://www.newsweek.com/clinto...

Re:Developers say it is safe? What about engineers?

Don't you think that people have had enough of experts?

Donald Trump’s Companies Destroyed Emails in Defiance of Court Orders

Oops. Facts are pesky things.

All major news outlets are too close to the political parties. You want to know who is to blame for that? The NEWS OUTLETS. (FTFY)

Moderator note: your personal disagreement with the following analysis does not make it less relevant or true. Please keep your post election rage/safe space down-mod votes to yourself.

The reality is that for about 30 years, the MSM has been in the tank for the progressive left. They started teaching journalists in school that their goal shouldn't be to "get the scoop" or "get to the truth" or "accurately report the facts." They started teaching them that their goal should be to "change the world." Once that happened, objective journalism died a quick death but the American people have been slow to catch on, but they have caught on, and only 6% of the population now believes that the MSM gives the news without bias/selective filtering/manipulation etc. In the 90s, Rush Limbaugh and later Fox news began providing a counter point to this pervasive bias, and in the case of Fox news, their formula is quite simple, they have guests on from both positions, and their commentators provide relevant history, background, and challenge both positions with facts. (If you are a Fox news hater, realize that doesn't change why Fox has been so successful or what their formula is or why they are the most trusted news network in the US.) Fox is also one of the best researched, best sourced news outlets on the planet. The news they put out is more accurate than most of the other MSM outlets (not necessarily what guests say though, who by definition are supporting a POV but whom are usually challenged by the host/other guest when they are wrong on the facts)

While the MSM usually does not outright fabricate a lie, what they do is source lies from Media Matters/HuffPo/other alt left sources. They take half truths, clips out of context etc that fit their narrative, irregardless of the complete facts. Occasionally they get caught and a producer somewhere gets fired. The level of dishonesty has created an atmosphere where fake news sites have more credibility than the MSM, which is a credibility problem for the MSM, not a commentary on the gullibility of news consumers. The fake news sites have still lied less than the MSM, which has a history of lying going back decades. Why the younger generation is using social media as its news source shows just how hard the MSM has fallen and how low their credibility is. The solution is for Fox news to improve and extend it's online presence so that all those who see the MSM for the shills they are can have a reliable, accurate online news outlet.

The more mature and wiser conservative crowd moved to Fox news or main stream talk radio news sources 20 years ago, and those left consuming MSM pap have been so brainwashed that even the mention, let alone watching Fox news is like salt on a slug. I challenge anyone reading this to take the Fox news challenge. Tune into their primetime lineup for a week before you call them the great satan. Un-brainwashing may be a little unpleasant at first, but it is a liberating experience on the whole.

http://www.washingtontimes.com...

http://www.poynter.org/2014/th...
http://www.newsweek.com/faults...

when an outsider challenged her they cheated and undercut him in any way they could

This is totally untrue. Sanders completely failed to win over the people of color who are the base of the party, so he lost. Those are real thinking American citizens, and their votes matter just as much as anybody else's. Thanks mostly to that, Sanders was effectively out of contention after the primaries on April 19th. He would have had to win almost every delegate after that, and that was just not going to happen, short of the mythical "in bed with dead hooker or live boy" situation.

The Emails Russian intelligence stole from the DNC servers they hacked were all authored after that date. The DNC, like the RNC, is a nearly powerless organization, so even if they had wanted to "steal" anything they couldn't, and it was far to late to do so at that date.

This whole "Sanders got robbed" narrative is a complete fabrication. If anything here is responsible for the way the election went, its that his voters bought into hook-line-and-sinker when Trump and the Russians started pushing it.

Which I guess gets us back onto the topic of lies masquerading as factual news...

I'll be darned if I can reliably tell whether that hot chick I see on the street is 24 or 14.

It's not just you. They sure don't look like they did when I was younger.

I see young women in stores and yeah, they could be 15 or they could be in their 20s. And they're a lot more curvy or buxom or whatever than I remember them being when I was in high school or junior high. Some scientific studies are claiming that the age of puberty is dropping, so maybe that's it.

https://www.theguardian.com/so...
http://sph.unc.edu/age-of-pube...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/0...

"At the turn of the 20th century, the average age for an American girl to get her period was 16 to 17. Today, that number has plummeted to less than 13, according to data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey."

So yeah, there's something going on.

What about the Russian propaganda he was spreading?

Why didn't they charge her?

http://www.newsweek.com/squali...

Totalitarianism doesn't like technology, except as a means to oppress.

Absolutely fscking true.

I guess this is how democracy dies, to thundering applause.

We may have a sexist buffoon for a president now, but at least democracy has a chance for another four years.

Actually, he has so many international business deals all over the world that the world owns him.

Did you forget about his big golf course in Scotland? He has many foreign properties and HUUUGE conflicts of interests he cannot disassociate himself from.

Trump International is a global company with properties all over the world. Also, most of the money for his campaign did not come from him and he often used his campaign to pay himself to use his properties for campaign events.

> Dear Media: Thank you so much for turning a relatively banal email screwup that had zero actual consequence into the biggest campaign scandal in decades and turning an otherwise likeable candidate into a pariah.

They didn't even cover half of what was found and discussed on /r/wikileaks, just a few banal items like the VP list (which was silly, because she actually promised it to Kaine a long time ago so that DWS would control the DNC), or how Donna Brazille got booted from CNN for leaking all the debate questions (several other people, however, were also complicit and didn't go anywhere...).

> Dear Director of the FBI: Thank you for possibly breaking the law by dropping an election bombshell and tanking Clinton's poll numbers over absolutely nothing.

Hillary was under investigation long before that (still is, allegedly, but that might just be a rumor). And frankly, I don't think this did it. If anything dumped her numbers, I'd say it's the creepy as hell #spiritcooking that the media never touched, but which went viral.

> Dear GOP: Thank you for you massive voter suppression efforts and the SCOTUS for enabling them. Together you were able to obstruct the ability of minorities to vote.

Too many stories to know which things you're talking about specifically. I did hear about a few things that I'm not happy with, though.

> Dear Wikileaks: Way to go! You just handed a global superpower to a comically corrupt bozo who is so non-transparent he didn't even release his taxes!!

Send them some leaks next time? Though I think you could more easily just leak that sort of thing to CNN/ABC/etc. In fact, I seem to recall that someone did exactly that for some older tax documents. Here's their response to that, incidentally:

http://europe.newsweek.com/jul...

Well, considering that the Trump crowd, including a few posters here who should have the ability to actually write the code to de-dupe a bunch of fucking text files

It's hard to decide exactly where to jump into this fast-moving stream of circular back-patting by people who should know better, but I suppose this is as good a place as any.

These emails by definition cannot be exact duplicates, because they were forwarded from Huma's clintonemail.gov account to one of her other personal accounts. This is not even mildly controversial. See, for example, here: http://www.newsweek.com/hillar...

That being the case, neither the headers nor the bodies are going to match the emails that were reviewed before. So you're not looking at anything even close to "pretty trivial algorithms" to "de-dupe a bunch of fucking text files."

Please do feel free to explain to the class how easy it would be to craft an automated process that would massage the new emails to the point where you could confidently hash them against those of the original review set (collected from, remember, a completely different email system) and know for a certainty that by doing so you weren't throwing out any relevant data not represented in the originals. I look forward to thoughtful specifics rather than condescending hand-waving.

Because each email had to go through several Federal agencies to have any retroactively classified information redacted before they could be publicly released.

In this case we have a trove of emails . Also note what Comey said: he said that this doesn't change their decision with regards to recommending to indict Clinton or not, so that means once they hit this point all they have to do is figure out if Clinton had sent any of the remainder of the emails, which is easily accomplished with a simple search.

Badda bing, easy work.

The ONLY way we'll ever know the truth is if Trump wins.

If Hillary wins, we'll never know. Just like we never got to see a whole lot of documents in her history.

In this case we have a trove of emails . Also note what Comey said: he said that this doesn't change their decision with regards to recommending to indict Clinton or not, so that means once they hit this point all they have to do is figure out if Clinton had sent any of the remainder of the emails, which is easily accomplished with a simple search.

Badda bing, easy work.

“It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS. The money’s rolling in and this is fun.” - CBS CEO Les Moonves
http://www.newsweek.com/blame-...

The Hatch Act only applies to people. An automated Twitter feed is not a person.

How is Bill Clinton going to be put into a position where he can put Hiliary in jail?

I've heard it wasn't Russians at all, but US Intel agencies that leaked it, because they (the low level agents) hated the idea of Clinton Presidency, especially once they saw the writing on the wall about the Comey investigation not going after Clinton.

Granted, that is speculation and unnamed sources. But that seems to be all that is needed these days.

I don't know who it was that revealed those emails to the American public. It could have been DNC's Director of Voter Expansion Data, Seth Rich http://www.newsweek.com/seth-r... . Whoever-it-was did us a service. And whoever-it-was doesn't really matter. What matters is the content.

Interesting comment!

14 million dollars (what Trump's father "loaned" him) compounded annually for 40 years at a 5 percent interest rate would have become 98 million dollars. Trump claims to be a multi-billionaire, but will not provide actual evidence of that. In fact he has stated that his net worth fluctuates with "how he feels" http://www.newsweek.com/how-much-trump-worth-depends-how-he-feels-384720 which suggests that he may qualify for public assistance if he loses the presidential race.

So remind me again what she did that differs from what Powell did when he ran his private email server? Or what the RNC did when they ran a large portion of the White House email traffic on their servers and conveniently forgot to make any backups?

22 million of emails from the Bush area are still missing.

Hillary disagrees with you. She believes there should be more successful businessmen in politics.

Only if you define 'successful businessmen' as businessmen who continually fail
And before you come back and say how successful he is now, how do you know? He says he's rich, but since we don't have tax records we don't know how much of his current assets are heavily financed under junk loans that might bankrupt him tomorrow.

If Hillary Clinton wins the presidency, she'll be entering office as a war criminal having achieved that status well prior. She has backed possibly every war the US is engaged in and shows no signs of pulling the US out of its many occupations. Her belligerent stance on Syria, for instance, is to push for a "no-fly zone" which she acknowledges (to her bankster friends who also bankrolled Pres. Obama's candidacy) will "kill a lot of Syrians". Patrick Cockburn disagrees any US president would actually do this, but that doesn't stop her from making it known she is fine with the bombastic talk. She'll continue all of Obama's wars just as Obama continued and expanded G.W. Bush's wars. We don't know precisely where she'll expand US wars to, but it's likely to be some other poor country just as Obama expanded wars into Yemen. She'll continue the extrajudicial assassinations of Obama's drone wars (which Obama engaged in far more than Bush, making the drone wars a hallmark of Obama's presidency).

The drone strikes deserve some special attention because so few people seem to know about them. If any other country did this the US would have no problem identifying them as "state-sponsors of global terror" or calling them "terrorists". Each of these wars kill a lot of women and children (putting into perspective how much Clinton cares about women), including Americans (as we've seen with the Al-awlakis, such as killing a father and son 2 weeks apart in separate drone attacks) without due process. And the drones kill completely unsuspected innocent passers-by (such as one infamous wedding party attack. The US kills so many civilians they can't keep track of them all but are clearly ashamed by the deaths so they released (on a Friday before a holiday weekend when mainstream corporate media are least likely to carry the story) an internal assessment of civilian killings in U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya (including those killed including during Clinton's stint as Secretary of State). In that assessment we find an undercount due to the US reclassification of any military-age male as an "enemy combatant" in a desperate attempt to reduce the civilian death toll. There's every reason to expect more of the same from Hillary Clinton should she become president.

Domestically, Clinton's anti-poor/anti-working-person policies are bound to worsen the plight of women. Taking so much money from global banks ensures a continuation of no prosecutions for global banksters, no matter what fellow Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren says. Global trade pacts will help the US more efficiently exploit the poor. The TPP is a fine example of this: the TPP was known to, and does, receive massive international disapproval hence the TPP negotiations and early drafts were done in secret even keeping US congresspeople in the dark. Regardless of what Clinton says or hints to the US public, Clinton picked a pro-TPP vice presidential candidate in Tim Kaine and Clinton picked TPP boosters in her cabinet setup committee. It's hardly surprising that in April 2015 TheIntercept.com reported that "TPP Propon

The bush white house lost 22 million, but um that is different. Right? 22 million

You are on /. and can't link? are more incompetent Russian astroturf?

If you were a native speaker you would know that the sentence that is highlighted is saying the opposite of what you're claiming it says.

But he was a hero when he was working with Chelsea Manning, no?

No, he exploited Chelsea Manning and left her to rot. Assange is a user.

Further, the ties between Wikileaks, Assange, Trump and the Kremlin have just been confirmed. Read this very interesting article about a phony email in the Wikileaks dump and attributed to Sidney Blumenthal that was actually written by Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald. It was released through Kremlin propaganda channels and ended up being read at a rally by Donald Trump just a few hours later.

http://www.newsweek.com/vladim...

I knew as a news junkie you'd find this interesting.

Face it, asshole, you're[sic] chosen anti-SJW warrior has lost the election.

Most probably. How strange it is that sex is held to be so much more important than treason or nuclear annihilation. But sigh. Whatever works, just so long as bozo the clown ends up taking the proverbial walk of shame back down the sewer he crawled from.

Microsoft fucked up Solitare. Let's watch them do it to Paint. let's see:

1. Now shows Ads. http://www.pcworld.com/article...
2. Now only basic features unless you pay Microsoft for premium version http://www.newsweek.com/solita....
3. DLC!
4. "Telemetry" (sounds so much nicer than "spyware") sends whatever fils you open and whatever you paint to Microsoft "so we can improve our product."
5. Includes Windows 10 TOS: "We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary." https://www.schneier.com/blog/... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...

And many believe that Donald Trump hires only Americans, and doesn't send large amounts of jobs to foreign countries like China, Africa, etc.

And that he was also a successful businessman.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-federal-income-tax-records-506713

Just believing that doesn't make them right.

You haven't spent much time in the right-wing echo chamber, where every lie is believable and truthiness is optional.

Here,

let me save us all the trouble:

Question 1: You've become an overnight household name as a consequence of a manufactured controversy. Since then, you've managed to grow a cult-following by engaging the controversy rather than hiding from the attention. Do you enjoy your new celebrity status enough to justify the headaches the media attention has brought you?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 2: Prescription drug prices don't seem to follow the same price trends as most other consumer commodities. Can you cast some insight into the process of pricing a prescription medication? Do you have any thoughts on the fairness of the perception that drug prices are excessively volatile? Is this perception deserved? In either case, what are some of the underlying causes behind prescription drug price volatility?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 3: Do you believe the environment for pricing pharmaceuticals in the United States is optimal, or favorable to innovation and research that best benefits patients?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 4: You've frequently expressed your desire to invest more money in researching new treatments and cures for diseases. What changes or reforms to the United States healthcare industry and relevant regulations would be most effective in maximizing health outcomes for patients?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 5: What is the single most counterproductive aspect of the United States legal and regulatory structure surrounding health care and drug research?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 6: In most colleges, the computer science, computer engineering, and electrical engineering departments are awash with student interest in these majors. Do you feel that the healthcare industry is suffering from a "brain drain" or talent-loss as a result of differences in perceived profitability and ROI for those education dollars? If so: do you expect the common desire to found a Silicon Valley "Unicorn" startup could be redirected to inspire those students to research treatments for diseases if the government changed its approach to healthcare regulations?

"On the advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment privilege against self incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question."

Question 7: In my biology class, I learned that there are many sponges in the mediterranean which appeared to offer opportunities to research new antibiotics. The academic who was researching these sponges lamented about a lack of interest from the pharmaceutical industry in researching new antibiotics because the ones we had now worked "well enough". When I encounter news stories like this: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/0... I'm left with some level of dissonance between two anecdotes which seem impossible to reconcile. Clearly, victims of war are not especially well-equipped to vote with their dollars, but this alleged lack of interest in researching new antibiotics seems endemic of a more systemic issue. Do you believe the search for new antibiotics deserves more research funding than they currently receive? Is there a hype-gap between the threat of antibiotic resistance being portrayed in the media and the risk antibiotic resistance actually poses? Do you believe that antibiotic research funding reflects an appropriate priority level relative to the ris

Powell admits he advised Clinton on email

Clinton on email

Powell admitting he has none of the state dept emails

Powell and Rice both used personal emails for state business

And the list goes on. So if you have outrage for one, then you must have outrage for all, unless you can prove that there was something different about the one, except link 3 negates any possibility of proof.

Notice how his mouth looks like a sphinter.

Grasping. Heres a fact.

Might some hacker respond to a Julian Assange story? Maybe.

Days later when the cover story was Trump's Castro Connection?

Grasping.

Did Newsweek publish any other stories that day (or that week)?

Trump's Castro Connection was the front page story.

Remember, Trump solicited campaign contributions from foreign nationals. He has business interests all over the world, including many in Russia. His idea of a "blind trust" for his businesses is for his children to run them. There's no way Trump can avoid massive conflict of interests around the world. He's heavily indebted to Russian oligarchs and other areas that are in conflict with our national security.

You must not be paying attention: https://www.newsweek.com/2015/... Just Google "Lolita express" and you'll find all kinds of hard references to Billy being on that plane that was stocked with underage girls. And to keep Bill out of trouble the owner of the plane got a sweet deal with the prosecutor. Now the victims are suing to get justice.

Surprise! I've submitted this news and slashdot refuses to run it. Just one more example of blatant pro-Trump bias on slashdot.

Because your submission didn't involve, you know, hackers... because this happens to be a, you know, tech site.

Dunno who modded your post up, but they're apparently just as unable to grasp that concept as you are.

Surprise! I've submitted this news and slashdot refuses to run it. Just one more example of blatant pro-Trump bias on slashdot.

EVEN our NATO allies are not trusted... they are spied upon in minute detail.

You act like this is some shocking discovery.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...

And please don't pretend that we didn't set the bar...or that it's not an important issue.

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/0...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

https://www.theguardian.com/wo...

The bar was set before the United States was even a country. Only the techniques have changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The guardian article is kind of a mess.
This one is more complete:
http://www.newsweek.com/gurbak...

What rape hysteria?

Might I remind you of articles like this one, or how, especially on college campuses, someone accused of rape is guilty before being proven innocent. Worse, they're often still guilty, even after the evidence is in their favor. Colleges will throw out people accused of rape even if the crime is not proven in the court of law.

All it takes is someone with an accusation and you're automatically the bad person.

Then you get into real ridiculous territory about what defines rape. It doesn't even need to include physical contact. There have been rape cases brought against people because they asked about having sex more than once.

That's not rape. It may be annoying, and in extreme cases it could be harassment, but it isn't rape.

So yes, there is a "rape hysteria" going on, because the SJWs especially on college campuses are getting way out of control.

The Federal Drug Administration have classified this plant as a "Schedule 1" drug, the same as PCP, Cocaine, Heroin and other famous substances. While it is classified as such, research opportunities are extremely limited, and not applicable to Federal guidelines.
States with an MMJ program can and do perform studies, but they are at odds with the Federal regulations.
Until this changes (rumored to happen on August 1), cannabis derivatives, whether organic whole plant preparations or synthetics are still subject to Federal jurisdiction; minimum sentencing, etc.
"Our hands are tied" remains a valid argument, and they're still able to capitalize on the addictive nature of their existing 'therapies'.
For more: http://www.newsweek.com/big-ph...

Agreed:

"Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/n...

"Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS"

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/0...

This isn't an issue, as long as there is a human controlling the robot.

It's like saying that using a rifle raises issues because the rifle is isn't close to the target. Using the robot merely slows down the process of moving the killing object from the source to the target.

No, a real issue would be autonomous killing devices. They are coming and will probably be in use before there is general awareness of them. Their use is more likely after that experiment that showed an autonomous robot pilot was better than a skilled human pilot.

Nevermind the Crooked Hillary! illegal email server that had classified data with markings on it - where Obama and his flunkies are doing their utter best to whitewash it... (And yeah, ALL THAT ABOUT CROOKED HILLARY!'S EMAIL SERVER IS DOCUMENTED - AT LEAST GROW SOME BALLS AND ADMIT YOU SUPPORT A CROOKED LYING SACK OF SHIT)

‘Most Transparent Administration’ Sets FOIA Censorship Record

In 2014, the Obama administration set a record: It censored or refused to release more government records—accessible to the public through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)—than in any preceding year.

In 250,581 cases, or 39 percent of total requests, anywhere from a few words to every word was censored, or access was fully denied. In 215,584 other instances, the government said the records could not be found, decided the request was unreasonable or the requester refused to pay the associated fees. When the government did decide to hand over government files, the process took longer on average than in years past—anywhere between one day and 2.5 years.

The self-proclaimed “most transparent administration” also admitted that its decision to withhold or censor documents was inappropriate under the law in almost a third of cases—but only after the requester challenged the government’s initial decision.