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"Behavior Detection"
I've often wondered why the TSA's "Behavioral Detection" crap can't detect thieves like Brown, Burton, Simmons, Defelis, Noukeo, Burley, German, Persad, Webb, Pepper, and Arato, or actual sex offenders like Sean Shanahan and Charles Henry Bennett, or complete suicidal whackjobs like Diego Gonzales who was an actual TSA BDO. Shouldn't his fellow BDOs have noticed... I don't know... something wrong?
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"Behavior Detection"
I've often wondered why the TSA's "Behavioral Detection" crap can't detect thieves like Brown, Burton, Simmons, Defelis, Noukeo, Burley, German, Persad, Webb, Pepper, and Arato, or actual sex offenders like Sean Shanahan and Charles Henry Bennett, or complete suicidal whackjobs like Diego Gonzales who was an actual TSA BDO. Shouldn't his fellow BDOs have noticed... I don't know... something wrong?
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Re:...liabilities
Makes sense to me - you won't get tasered or shot if you abide by the law.
Can I live in this black & white world that you live in, where every person beaten, tasered, or shot is a hardcore criminal that deserved it? I understand that you're biased, as your daughter and son-in-law are both police officers, but there are many documented cases out there of police using tasers against people when it is absolutely unnecessary and even more dangerous.
The problem is that police officers are now using tasers beyond situations when their lives are in danger. They are using it to shock people into compliance for not following verbal orders. They're using it in cases when they would never even think about using their gun. If your daughter and her husband are two of the few police officers using tasers ONLY when the situation calls for it, then I am happy that they volunteered to be police officers. The force needs more people like them.
But there is a reason why the Federal Court in California limits police use of Tasers.
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Re:Argument similar to automated NYC subway trains
Nope, automated trains aren't dead.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/The_Plane_Train
Or even, it appears, dead in NYC.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-02-24/local/17916708_1_nyc-transit-trains-subway-cars
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I propose creation of the "Jim Bell Foundation"
There ought to be a charity where you can text donations that will be applied to hiring a hit man to locate and severely hurt (the Bible says "thou shalt not kill"...) people who do shit like that.
to any Feds in the audience, I'm only cynically kidding, I'm not threat to the government like that Assange fellow... -
Re:Are you armed?
Japan Tsunami = massive natural disaster - GUN TOTING POPULATION -> no looting & roving gangs -> no murder, assault -> no need for way to "protect" self and family
Thai Tsunami = massive natural disaster - GUN TOTING POPULATION -> no looting & roving gangs -> no murder, assault -> no need for way to "protect" self and family
See a pattern here?
Yes, I do see a pattern - you either don't know what you are talking about or are making things up.
There was looting in Thailand after the 2004 Tsunami (and after their recent unrest), and in Japan now.
Thailand 2004: Thai looters cash in on tsunami destruction
Thailand 2010: Thai forces to fire on looters and arsonists
Japan 2011: Japan earthquake: Looting reported by desperate survivorsNow, is it firearms that causes people to form mobs with ill intent? Apparently not as they will form with makeshift weapons:
Recently in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, dozens of men, armed with machetes and make-shift weapons, broke into and looted stores along the capital's main commercial street. Natural Disasters in Chile and Haiti the Psychology of Looting
And what of Sweden, who lost a number of citizens in the 2004 disaster in Thailand?
Even famously law-abiding Sweden and Norway have been hit by scammers who have robbed and looted the homes of tourists who vanished in the chaos.
"It is, unfortunately, a reality that people who are known to be missing . . . have had their homes gone through and partly emptied," Swedish State Secretary Lars Danielsson said.......
Fearing an outbreak of looting akin to what occurred after the 1994 sinking of the ferryboat Estonia that killed 551 Swedes, police refused to release the names of the dead and missing. Somehow, though, the names got out, and now police are standing watch over hundreds of homes scattered across the country. Gangs pillage tsunami villages, stealing corpses & selling orphans
And more of the same: Robbery, rape and kidnap
Sri Lanka Churches Worried about Looting in Tsunami-hit Areas
Referring to the looters, the Sri Lanka church council said: "We appeal to them to kindly desist from such dastardly conduct and join with the several who are helping those in need," as it urged more church volunteers and others to join in the relief work.
The criticism came after reports that thugs were looting homes of some tsunami victims and rapists were preying on homeless survivors.
"We have received reports of incidents of rape, gang rape, molestation and physical abuse of women and girls in the course of unsupervised rescue operations," the Women and Media Collective group in Sri Lanka was quoted saying by the Reuters news agency.
But don't only bad people have guns? No. For example, Dr. Martin Luther King owned guns for protection.
I also suggest that you become clear on this point: Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone . This has been the law for quite some time.
You can't necessarily count on the police:
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Some actual news stories about this
If a random blogger is going to submission spam slashdot with all of his two paragraph blogs plagiarizing news articles, the least he could do is actually LINK to some genuinely useful coverage of the story on a reputable sites...
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Re:Libel
Well yeah, god did throw the snake out of eden also.
I don't honestly expect to achieve perfection, but we should at least point towards it. Authority is exactly the opposite. And authority based on hearsay, well, we're looking down its rifle barrel. The reactions I see is so panicky and cowardly.. It's <pathetic>. This case is as frivolous as it gets.
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Re:How does the livestream come through
You still here? If you questioned the leadership as much as you question me, would any of us be in the situation we find ourselves?
Photo and data manipulation by experts is far more subtler than my blatant attempts. I showed you this photo rather than this one.
Why is it that day after day, hour by hour, the American people were shown this yet not much of the Pentagram other than this, even though many video tapes were seized. What are people hiding?
People are more interested in two train wrecks like Charlie and LiLo and yet, two other train wrecks like this and this here have greater impact on American policy.
Politicians elected to office by 51% of the vote consider it a mandate, so what does this article say about the pissed off American voter? Politicians in office for more than two terms do not care about their constituents, this is my opinion. Two states and possibly three have decided to go back on their contract agreements. Considering how the American people were left with a bag of worms when Wall Street and the banksters tanked the economy and the politicians used taxpayer money to bail them out so the Wallstreeters and banksters could continue with their obscene bonuses, is it possible that the repercussions in Bell, California could escalate across the country all the way to Washington DC, I wonder?
When the Europeans arrived in North, Central and South America, they first de-stabilized the indigenous people and then decimated them. Just ask any Native American Indian what they think of US government agreements. Now, the American people are being de-stabilized, what next?
It's really been fun debating this with you, but I must move on. So long and thanks for all the fish. -
Re:The moral of the story
On the other hand, if you're a woman, you can rape children all you want and even have children with them and marry then when they grow up and then exploit your child-raping notoriety by hosting "Hot for Teacher" nights at local clubs alongside the guy you raped when he was a child. And instead of labeling you as a pariah and an evil villian who should rot in prison, you're called "America's hottest cougar" while you make cash signing autographs and selling merchandise.
Of course, that's only if you're at least a mildly attractive woman. If you're ugly, then we treat you like the criminal you are. Well, not like the criminal you are, but like a criminal that stole a candy bar or something and must be punished with a typically light sentence.
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Re:Unencrypted cookie auths
Muslims inside Egypt and out condemned that attack. Fortunately, such attacks are few and far between. Look at the aftermath, when terrorists attacked a church around Christmas, thousands of Muslim Egyptians attended church services in Egyptian churches, in order to serve as human shields in case of another attack. They held candlelight vigils outside and put crosses on their facebook pages as well.
Let's look to the last 2 weeks. A photo has been spreading all over Twitter of Egyptian Christians making a human chain to protect Muslims from police attack as they were praying in Tahrir square on Friday. On Sunday, Egyptian Muslims returned the favor, protecting them while they had prayer services. This is a great moment for Muslim-Christian unity in Egypt.
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Re:Or Else What
The police/feds can do more than just read your IMEI number now. The sneak has been removed from "sneak and peek".
The peek is now more a search too. Add in "they are free to try to crack the password by guessing it or by entering every possible combination (a brute-force attack)" - how strong is your average MS (patch on the way some time)/Apple(optional ?)/Google(3rd party/soon?) OS NSA allowed crypto effort?
If its strong, what about a useful plain text like backup database back on your desktop/laptop?
Bookmarks and that autocomplete cache that never gets wiped?
Will a country have an encrypted container detection software kit? Could you be held on not providing a pw when requested?
The smart thing to do is have a very dumb phone and just give up a list of numbers. Back to pen register vs your online life in plain text. -
Re:CNN reports
MSNBC reports that hate speech on talk radio resulted in their 34,000 year imprisonment. Democrats in Congress propose banning salt.
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Homeless? You can't fly either.
Even being a youtube phenom isn't enough to be permitted to fly.
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Re:Strictly Legal, Formally Legal, or All data?
The US police do like the option to find any unique phone data.
NYPD tracking cell phone owners, but foes aren't sure practice is legal
The International Mobile Equipment Identity number would just "drop out" as the battery is removed to stop leakage.
I am not sure how deep "open and examine" would do for files inside, but data on the outside is now fair game.
With that number, its a classic pen/trap order to see who you call. No need to listen in just yet, but database it all for now.
Then track via private agencies and pass up to the local http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_center
The you have the feds looking you up.
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Re:Copyright Rocks
I've always seen it as simply the minimum hourly wage necessary for an individual to meet basic needs, food, clothing, shelter, etc.
If you've ever supported yourself on a low-wage job, you should know that hours can be extremely erratic and many employers will prevent you from reaching 40 hours a week, lest they be penalized by full-time worker taxes. That means on a given week, depending on scheduling, you'll probably be getting between 30 and 39 hours. This could be the difference between $11,600 a year and $15,000 a year gross based on $7.45 an hour (a huge difference from 5 years ago, when I was making $5.15). That's a 23% difference. The point is, an hourly basis for a "living wage" is meaningless.
Even if we're talking on a monthly basis, there are vast regional differences in cost of living that could not be encompassed by a federal cost of living mandate. Around here, especially in some of the more rural areas, you could eat and have a warm place to live on $600 a month with all utilities paid. Try and pull that off in San Fransisco, Chicago or New York City. Won't fucking happen; not even in the ghetto.
$600 a month will get you a palace in China or India.
My point is that a "living wage" is influenced by so many external factors that it's impossible to standardize, and any attempts to do so smack of corruption and class warfare.
I've never heard it associated with unions or smugness.
Chicago Airport Workers Seek Living Wage
Ottawa Endorses Living Wage for All Its Employees
Local Unions Demand Living Wage
I could go on.
The smugness is inherent in anything to do with unions.
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Re:Aw thanks...
Here you go.
Eric Williamson was making coffee in his kitchen Monday morning and didn’t thing anything of the fact that he was nude since he was alone in the house
... But a woman and her 7-year-old son happened to be strolling through his front yard and saw the 29-year-old having breakfast in the buff through his window -
Note only "the contents"Read e-mail vs track/sort the ip/to/from headers?
Thats the very old trick that is used. A massive passive database of who is connected to who.
One person gets a real court sneak and peek letter, anyone one connected gets their email lists sorted
- who they are connecting to and so on. So if they dont read they can collect all connecting details they want.A bit like the NYPD collecting IMEI numbers via an offer to remove a cell phone battery to prevent leakage.
NYPD tracking cell phone owners.
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Redefining terrorism
Apparently disclosing the following counts as an act of terrorism according to a certain republican:
* Yemen goverment lying to its people on US bombings
* US pressing Germany to not pursue arrest warrants for 13 agents CIA agents. (arrest warrents that the cables describe as "From a judicial standpoint, the facts are clear, and the Munich prosecutor has acted correctly.")
This is stuff that people need to know.
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Re:The threat is not theoretical
You can't use a lack of empirical evidence to prove a negative.
Agreed.
So in almost 40 years we have the two recent unsuccessful, one that didn't get past the planning stages, and three more incidents before the Berlin wall even fell.
- Dec. 25, 2009 - Failed (implementation failed) US
- Aug. 10, 2006 - Failed (in planning stage) UK
- Dec. 22, 2001 - Failed (overpowered on plane) US
- Dec. 21, 1988 - Success. Kills 259 people on board and 11 people on the ground. Scotland.
- June 23, 1985 - Success. Kills 329. Canada-India (over Ireland)
- Dec. 17, 1973 - Success. Kills 29. US-Libya.
So given all this empirical evidence, I postulate that all airport security measures taken directly after 9/11 (not including the newest invasive screenings) are 100% effectivce.
Thanks for proving my point with empirical evidence?
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Re:The threat is not theoretical
Using only empirical evidence: pre-9/11 a plane would never be purposely used for a missile to blow up buildings
You can't use a lack of empirical evidence to prove a negative. Empirical evidence can only disprove a claim. In this case you claim that terrorists would not want to blow up planes since there are better targets. I provided evidence that, in fact, they do want to blow up planes. If you need more proof, including some actual deaths:
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Re:Fucking nanny-state moron.
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Re:I don't get it
This video is 2 years old. It just resurfaced on Youtube because of all the recent TSA hate.
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When strident regulation overpowers common sense
This is what happens when you pound regulations into people's heads and hire cheap robots instead of professional, intelligent employees. It's the same kind of mindless zero-tolerance policies that lead to kids being handcuffed and thrown in jail over school fistfights, bringing plastic knives to school--even if they're a 5-year-old just throwing a temper tantrum.
Has one of these security scans ever caught even ONE actual terrorist or criminal? In 9 years, even ONE?
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Re:A non-partisan no-brainer
Wow, that whole post reads like a drug-induced hallucination. Every bit of it is false. However, I'll just comment on this part:
"Terrorists don't go after low-hanging fruit... they go after the spectacular. Otherwise they'd be bombing suburban bus and train routes, malls, and other places which are almost impossible to police."
Um, yeah, that happens, like, every day in Israel, the greater Middle East, Pakistan and Afghanistan? Three days ago a car bomb blew up a building in the center of Karachi (Pakistan's largest city). Link. Two weeks ago a bomber killed 20 people in Istanbul's tourist and shopping center. Link. The last attempted terrorist bombing in the U.S., in May, was in the shopping/entertainment area of Times Square. Link.
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What's wrong with this picture...
Looking at Lady Gaga at the MTV Awards in her butcher shop couture, made me a lot of things... but calm and sedate weren't among them. She should have made her purse out of a barf bag.
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Re:Perfect Gift
Why would he need a costume? He can already force-choke.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/12/22/alg_cheney-waves.jpg
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Alito: "Not True": TRUE
Back in January 2010, Obama gave the State of the Union right after the Court handed down the Citizens United decision. Obama told Congress, with several of the Supremes sitting in the front row, that the decision would allow foreign corporations to influence US elections, which most Americans still realize is a terrible development. Justice Alito, who had just decided in the majority to allow corporations "free speech" by spending unlimited money in US political campaigning, was mad: he angrily mouthed "not true". The corporate mass media attacked Obama for "picking on the justices" by warning Congress and "embarrassing" the court, but of course failed to examine whether it was true.
Less than a year later, we see it was totally true. We see that foreign corporations have invested huge amounts of money campaigning in the 2010 election. Republican candidates have gotten hundreds of $millions spent to elect them, sponsored by corporations including many foreign ones. The "US" Chamber of Commerce (Inc.) collects money from lots of foreign corporations, especially Indian ones that want US jobs shipped there, foreign banks like Credit Suisse and HSBC that want financial reform repealed, and even corporations owned by foreign kings, like the Emir of Bahrain. Foreign kings are spending more in US election campaigns than US citizens.
Whether you think that's OK or not (it is very not OK), Alito was totally wrong. And a jerk about it. Not surprising, since Alito was installed by Bush. Alito swore in his Senate confirmation hearings that he would respect established law, but his Citizens United decision overturned lots of established law, went against the basic understanding that corporations are not people, and recklessly unleashed foreign corporate power on US election campaigns.
He should be impeached. Then he'll be free to skip the State of the Union the way he plans to from now on because he can't stand criticism of his abominable rulings.
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Re:Clearly the answer is more government intervent
Seeing as how I've actually been to TEA party rallies and support Libertarian ideas, and have not come across a single example of a libertarian push for government control of anything, I must ask you to cite your sources.
Tea Party protests FOR government intervention to stop the rebulding of a mosque at ground zero.
Brooklyn Tea Party founder John Press, who rallied against the Ground Zero Mosque in recent weeks, again raised the spectre of foreign domination. "The Mosque is founded by a very scary people and the US Constitution does not guarantee the right of a foreign nation to build a mosque in our country," he said. It's unclear if Mr. Press had merely forgotten the First Amendment, but one member of his protest group did recall the constitutional barrier on government suppression of religion -- he just chose to ignore it.
Mark Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express, blogged about the 13-story mosque and Islamic cultural center planned at Park Place and Broadway, calling it a monument to the 9/11 terrorists. "The monument would consist of a Mosque for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god,"
Example 2: Tea Party anti-abortionists that WANT government to legislate against abortion.
LinkExample 3: Tea Party WANTS laws to differentiate Gay and Lesbians.
Montana Tea Party Leader Endorses Violence Toward Gay People
In other words the Tea Party is nothing more than religious conservatives trying to control our lives. The Libertarian Party used to be run by Ron Paul who helped kick start the tea party movement. The two are clearly intrinsically linked. Libertarian has come to mean the opposite of its original definition thanks to people trying to play double-speak.
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UPI article is deceptive.
Hold on! That UPI article is deceptive, and does not tell the whole story. Check out the original article in the NY Daily News, which I found via MotherJones:
The mixed upper- and lowercase rule was adopted in 2003, but municipalities were given until 2018 to comply completely, Hecox said....The additional cost to the city, if any, will be "marginal" because it receives a steady stream of state funding for routine sign repairs and replacement, DOT spokesman Seth Solomonow said. The life of a typical sign is about a decade, so most of the city's signs would be replaced in the next few years anyway, Solomonow said.
So the signs are going to be replaced on a schedule where they would be replaced anyway, almost all of the funding comes from the routine sign replacement budget, and the whole deal was arranged back in 2003.
This is a non-story that some political jerks want to blow up into unreasonable proportions.
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Re:Typical
Besides, Julian gets all the groupies.
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Re:Pretty sad.
It's just an emotional release. Next time try yelling out the name "Elmo" instead.
I'm running this through my mental simulator, and "Elmo!" does not work half as well as "Fuck!".
And sure enough, when reading a summary of the study, they compared the results from yelling an expletive to yelling a neutral word, and the neutral word did not work.
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Re:Aptitude
Except for the fact that for a lot of people, they didn't really lose any money. (see http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/09/23/2009-09-23_50_of_madoff_investors_lost_nothing.html ) and as for the rest they will just get their money back in court.
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Re:Its not a suprise for its users
What free world are you referring to, specifically?
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Re:*Everybody* is guilty of something ...
There is no evidence the release of the Afghan documents has hurt anyone; even the Pentagon admits so.
There's absolutely evidence that the release of the papers has put people at risk. When the Taliban kill people, they're not going to hang citations from the Afghan documents around their necks
There is a possibility that an informant may be killed because of the leak, but that has to be weighed against how many lives are risked by keeping the truth about the war from the public.
Okay, I'll bite. Where is there any evidence that any lives were lost from the public not knowing who informants were, or any other details revealed in the papers? The fact that the Pakistanis were playing both sides in this thing has been known by anyone paying attention for quite some time now. And most of what the NY Times has reported has been about the paucity of resources allocated to the fight. Not only that, but the documents aren't up to date, so they can't form an intelligent picture of what it looks like on the ground in Afghanistan now.
The documents were released because Assange has an obvious agenda, which he doesn't even bother to hide, and he released the documents the way he did to give the U.S. forces a black eye in the PR department.
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Re:About Fucking Time
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Re:Waste
You sacrifice safety for expediency daily. Everyone does. It isn't black and white but a gradient. I do not think it is ridiculous to suggest the advance of modern technology has made co-pilots possibly unnecessarily redundant.
Of course it hasn't, and it won't until we have a true AI to run the show. Yes, if a flight proceeds normally a modern jetliner can pretty much fly itself. As a matter of fact, the air traffic control system the U.S. uses is based upon very old technology that doesn't account for advances in aircraft guidance systems that have been made over the years. So you're right in that sense: the big boys have been more than capable of routing and guiding themselves to their destinations for some years now. That really isn't the issue, though.
The reason you want an experienced pilot on board is for those times when things don't go right. That happens all the time, more often than you might think, and the reason there aren't more serious accidents is because somebody was there to take over and handle something the automatics couldn't. At the current state-of-the-art, I wouldn't consider boarding an jetliner that didn't have a live pilot in the cockpit.
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Re:Left Leaning...
Sorry, the condoms are handed out in First Grade.
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The difference between Hurd and Fiorina
HP stock dropped 4% the day Hurd's departure was announced, whereas is shot up 6.9% (at one point it was up 10.5%) the day Fiorina's departure was announced. Larry Ellison has repeated been accused of sexually harassing, then paying off his personal secretaries, but he's still CEO of Oracle... go figure. Charles Phillips, president of Oracle, screwed around on his wife for years, finally concluding in a Billboard in Times Square, but no impact to his career. I guess it just depends on which company you work for...
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Re:The danger doesn't come from talking....
That will be cold comfort to the Afghani people who have worked with US forces when somebody tosses a grenade, or a molotov cocktail through their window.
(especially after taking all possible precautions to prevent harm before release)
It's already been shown that the WL people didn't take "all possible precautions to prevent harm" - their release included GPS coordinates & full names & locations of people involved. If there is evidence of misdeeds by the US military, that's fine, they should be held accountable - but a giant dump of information that's been "edited by volunteers" is NOT "taking all possible precautions to prevent harm before release."
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Re:It's not stealing.
It is still morally wrong. Sorry. I may not agree with the copyright law, but I know if I download a film, I performed something morally wrong however small it may be! Think of it like this: if I drive 26 mph in my neighborhood, I am breaking the law and I know this. If there was a way to catch me (for the sake of this argument assume this is so), I know I would have to pay for the ticket. Will this prevent me from going a couple miles per hour over? No.
The point I am trying to make is that just because it is not that big of deal doesn't make it right and it certain does not abstain one from a personal moral code. In the corporate world, this is what gets the big guys, you know the bastards you hear on the news who did these horrifying things and thought it was fine, in trouble. Having seen this moral slip, in my life, through a friend, I can tell you the slippery slope argument does not apply: what does it the ability to let one-self's moral boundaries slip without at least the acknowledgment that the change occurred. No, downloading illegal games will not cause me to go rob a store later in life or even steal a candy bar from the grocery store, but there is no gray area to a personal ethical code. (We each have our own!)
I am not trying to incite some type of response from you GNUALMAFUERTE, I have many friends who would agree with you and I sometimes find myself on both sides of the argument isle on many occasions, rather I am merely remarking on how we must guard ourselves as a society to where we really want to draw the threshold of "acceptable" at. You would say "Copyright shouldn't exist" and you are entitled to your opinion and I am not arguing this fact, but rather how you justify it. (Again, the fact that you infringe on copyright laws does not phase me at all) What bothers me is that by assembling what you refer to stealing as into physical goods, and generalizing stealing piracy as the duty performed by actual pirates (even the dumb ones who attack Navy ships) the moral threshold for you is that stealing would now require that you perform something remotely close to those acts!
I say relax, grab a beer, go download a song, and say hell with it: yes you broke the law but just like many others going a few over the speed limit, even with full knowledge of the law...this isn't something that bothers you.
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Re:Internet Stupidity Test
Okay, have it your way, but I'm making factual claims and offering evidence for them, while you're making subjective assertions and offering no evidence for them.
There are effective ways to point out lies and distortions in a discussion, but issuing bare accusations isn't one of them. You're entitled to your opinion -- even if I happen to think yours is the more evil and destructive of our two philosophies -- but you're playing with an alternate set of facts from the actual ones.
Quoting this destructive sociopath defending himself on his own websites does not help your case one bit.
I didn't quote him, I offered links to evidence against your claims. But here, have some other evidence of Tea Party infiltration, and of zero-tolerance for racism:
Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams kicked out over 'Colored People' letter: Mark Williams, the flamethrower leading the battle against the Ground Zero mosque, was kicked out of the National Tea Party Federation Saturday for a racist blog post.But when he posted a satirical letter supposedly from "the Colored People" to President Lincoln praising slavery, that apparently crossed the line. [...] The federation, an umbrella organization that claims to represent 85 Tea Party groups, kicked out Williams' group when it wouldn't fire him. "We have expelled Tea Party Express and Mark Williams from the National Tea Party Federation because of the letter that he wrote," federation spokesman David Webb said on CBS's "Face the Nation." He called the letter - written after the NAACP called on Tea Party leaders to oust racists from their ranks - "clearly offensive."
Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies: ALBANY, N.Y.--Opponents of the fiscally conservative tea party movement say they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to make its members appear to be racist, homophobic and moronic. [...] Levin says they want to exaggerate the group's least appealing qualities, further distance the tea party from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them.
The Crashers: They came, they saw, they failed: [Yes, it's a Michelle Malkin piece, but full of photographs of tea partiers using signs to denounce and ostracize extremists / infiltrators in their midst.] "Check out the Captain Obvious crasher getting called out for attempting to paint their peaceful protest as an incitement to violence and faking a vile sign."
As to your question...
There is no infiltration of the Teaz Party, those are the real views of real supporters who have never, as you claim, been denounced. In fact, if they were, it would be no problem for the Tea Party to do as the NAACP requested, and denounce the racists. Why won't they?
...again I ask, what racism? So far there's no evidence of it. You reiterate your claim and accuse me of lying and distortion, but you don't even mention a single occurrence that they should be denouncing, much less offer proof of any pattern of racism in the movement. Have you no sense of irony?
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Re:These are not the money bags you're looking for
He loses some coolness points for wearing camo pants. No self-respecting Jedi or Sith would be caught dead in them
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Re:More BP news...
... You invested in the United States? Apparently that was a big mistake and hopefully you learned your lesson. You can't expect every country you invest in to apologize and pay you back when your investments go negative. That's not how investing works. If you didn't want to lose your money, maybe you shouldn't have been chasing the highly rated securities with highly rated returns that sounded too damn good to be true. Now you know not to trust our rating companies and our securities.
The problem here is that BP didn't set out to fill the GoM with oil - indeed far from it, as they most certainly wanted to get the oil out of the ground so they could sell it! Goldman Sachs, on the other hand, put together a portfolio of investments that were designed to fail and then SOLD THEM to people.
Yes we invested in the United States because we were under the impression that you are an honourable people who wouldn't go out of your way to screw us over! Are we mistaken? Is that really the message you want sent out to the rest of the World for when these bad economic times are over?As I understand it, a UK bank lost $840M and will get back less than a tenth of that, if anything. Where's the cries of anguish to make Goldman Sachs "clean up the mess" and get a hefty fine eh?.
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Re:Lawsuit Incoming!
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Re:in Other words: And nothing of Value was lost.
Or may be, it was just Putin's funny idea to make Obama sweat a little. Remember, considering our current restructuring/retooling efforts with NASA, the US is temporarily -- but almost-entirely dependent on Russia for resupplying the international space station. And if you're of the mind of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, what he said just a few days ago (on the 29th of June 2010), that the timing of the spying allegations seemed entirely too coincidental to his liking, might seem to apply in this particular case as well. May be, just may be, the timing of this first-ever Russian docking trajectory error, seems entirely too coincidental as well?
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Re:Why so discriminating?
I should also note that many gay or lesbian couples do adopt children, or undergo fertility treatment to have children.
Not if the Texas Republicans have anything to say about it...
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Re:Bad places to work
[citation needed]
Besides, gays seem to have a real working gaydar and also do not like to be turned down. That makes straight-gets-hit-on-by-gay occurrences very, very infrequent. The problem you sketch is almost non-existent. And all the gays I know do NOT 'almost encourage' women to hit on them. -
Re:So ...
Why face our Consistency and justify our agenda when it's much easier to hide behind the Congressional leadership?
The word you are looking for is constituency. Not that I'd expect proper spelling from someone that's probably a tea bagger anyway.
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Re:When you are looking for a needle in a
"Care to reference at least an article"
You need look no further than Google, and one of the first hits, from the NYTimes:
Slashdot error - I need to spoonfeed a link: Title of article is "Army missed warning signs of Major Nidal Hasan's Fort Hood massacre: military review" at http://www.nydailynews.com/
While that particular article, by itself, doesn't reveal very much, it SHOULD put you on the right road to finding dozens of other articles about Hasan. He made comments early in his education that should have tipped people off, he made comments late in his education that were truly alarming, and later as an officer and a doctor, he articulated sympathy for the Islamic jihadists fighting against our forces.
Let me try to find one particular quote for you - searching - - - -
Not exactly what I was looking for, but pertinent:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199506.phpCan't find the exact quote I'm looking for at the moment, but there is a lot of insight into Hasan's mind here:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014754.html
If, from these links, you cannot use Google to find more damning evidence against both Hasan AND his superior officers, then you aren't trying.
The fact is, it was obvious during Hasan's internship that he was a loose cannone, he was dangerous, and that he held treasonous views. He most definitely established that his first loyalty was to Islam, and that he had little loyalty to the United States, or to the Army which he was sworn to serve.