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Modern Amiga compatible solutions
There seems to be some confusion with regard to which OSes/solutions this effort is directed at. Currently there are 4 main 68k Amiga compatible solutions DiscreetFX would like to see supported. For two first one listed below PPC native versions would be preferable:
1) AmigaOS4
This is the official new AmigaOS developed for classic Amigas upgraded with PPC accelerators and new AmigaOne computers which are being sold with G3 and G4 processors.
Some of the latest but still unfinished screenshots of AmigaOS4:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?sto ryid=560
AmigaOne motherboards can already be bought in combination with Linux at the following dealers (AmigaOS4 will be delivered for free as soon as it is finished): http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/dealers.php
With MOL MacOS X can also already be used with this system (as well as with the Peg below):
http://www.anythingamiga.com/XEPics/x2.jpg.html
2) MorphOS
Its ABOX environment is a re-implementation of version 3.1 of the Amiga operating system. The re-implemted Exec kernel is hosted on top of a Quark microkernel. The OS is fast and responsive and currently runs with G3 Pegasos motherboards. Interested people will have to wait for the Pegasos II, which is planned for release in September. An interesting review can be found at OSNews:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3589
3) AROS
An open source project intended as a multi-platform re-implementation of version 3.1 of the Amiga operating system. Most of the development takes place on x86 computers. Much of the source code was used for MorphOS. http://www.aros.org/
4) UAE, Amithlon and other 68 AmigaOS emulators
AmigaOS XL: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=604
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Re:Nuh uh
Here's what Nat Friedman had to say about OS X support.
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Stop the fisher priceization of GNOME!
Looks like Eugina has been smoking bad shit again! After the awful window decoration she designed, comes this shit! If you thought Microsoft Luna or KDE Keramik were bad, think again! Least it isn't this bad!. Start using one of the boxes (blackbox, fluxbox, openbox et el) instead.
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Stop the fisher priceization of GNOME!
Looks like Eugina has been smoking bad shit again! After the awful window decoration she designed, comes this shit! If you thought Microsoft Luna or KDE Keramik were bad, think again! Least it isn't this bad!. Start using one of the boxes (blackbox, fluxbox, openbox et el) instead.
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Stop the fisher priceization of GNOME.
Looks like Eugina has been smoking bad shit again!. After the awful window decoration he designed, comes this shit! If you thought Windows XP and Keramik were bad, Think again! KDE is just as bad!. Use one of the boxes (Blackbox, Fluxbox, Openbox) instead.
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Stop the Fisher Pricization of gnome!
Looks like Eugina has been smoking bad shit again!. After the awful window decoration he designed, comes this shit! If you thought Windows XP and Keramik were bad, Think again! KDE is just as bad!. Use one of the boxes (Blackbox, Fluxbox, Openbox) instead.
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Stop the Fisher Pricization of Gnome!
Looks like Eugina has been smoking bad shit again!. After the awful window decoration he designed, comes this shit! If you thought Windows XP and Keramik were bad, Think again! KDE is just as bad!. Use one of the boxes (Blackbox, Fluxbox, Openbox) instead.
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Is this the same Giga?from the article:
"[SCO] should tell everybody what they have," said Quandt, who has advised clients of Cambridge, Mass.-based Giga to continue with their Linux adoption.
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I already don't like this guy.
My little sister looked at This picture and commented on how cute he was.
Now I'm jealous. Nerds aren't supposed to be cute. :) -
eugenia is crazy..
Another great thing that I love about the Dano/EXP codebase -- now found at Zeta -- is the "smooth window dragging", which is explained here better (only visible on CRT monitors, LCDs won't feel the difference). MacOSX is the only other OS that has this feature
This feature as it is explained at the link is also present in windows. So Windows, MacOSX and Beos all have the same feature.. its not really worth talking about in a review unless you are making fun of pre X macos. -
GNOME: Armageddon
Dear reader the GNOME armageddon has started,
First of all I want to clarify that this text was meant to be a source of information otherwise i wouldn't have spent so much time into writing it.
Belive me it took me a couple of days writing this text in a foreign language.
Even if you don't care at all for GNOME, you may find some interesting information within this text that you like to read. please try to understand my points even if it's hard sometimes, otherwise you wake up one day and feel the need to switch to a different operating system.
On the following lines i'm trying to give you a little insight of the GNOME community. the things that are going on in the back, the information that could be worth talking and thinking about.
Many of us like the GNOME desktop and some of us were following it since the beginning. GNOME is a promising project because it's mostly written in C, easy to use, configurable and therefore fits perfectly into the philosophy of *NIX, only to name some of its advantages.
Unfortunately these advantages changed with the recently new released version of GNOME. The core development team somehow got the idea of targeting GNOME to a complete different direction of users, the so called corporate desktop user.
In other words they're targeting people that aren't familiar or experienced with desktop environments. usually business oriented people who are willing to pay money for getting GNOME on their computers.
Having this new target in mind, the core development team mostly under contract by companies like RedHat, Ximian and Sun decided to simplify the desktop as much as even possible by removing all its flexibility in favor of an easy clean simple interface to not confuse their new possible customers. So far the idea of a clean easy to use desktop is honourable.
Some of the new ideas, features and implementations such as gconf, an evil Windows Registry-like system, new ordering of buttons and dialogs, the removal of 90%-95% of all visible preferences from the control center and applications, the new direction that GNOME leads and the attitude of the core development team made a lot of users really unhappy. These are only a couple of examples and the list can easily be expanded but for now this is enough. Now let me try to get deeper into these aspects.
You may imagine that users got really frustrated, because their beloved GNOME desktop matured into something they didn't want. During the time, the frustration of a not less amount of people increased. more, more and more emails arrived on the GNOME mailinglists where users tried to explain their concerns, frustrations and the leading target of GNOME.
But the core development team of GNOME don't give a damn about what their users are thinking or wanting and most of the time they come up with their standard purl. The reply they give is mostly the same -- users should either go and 'file a bug' at BugZilla or the user mails are being turned so far that at the end they sound like being trolls or the user feedback is simply not wanted. whatever happens the answers aren't really satisfying for the user. even constructive feedback isn't appreciated.
If you gonna think about this for a minute then things gonna harden that they are directing into the commercial area. The core development team actually don't care for the complaining home user -- it's more
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Re:SCO is the villain, not MS-Hidden jewels.
Actually as Sam has pointed out. "That's not what he said. What he said was that "there is no mechanism in Linux to ensure [the legality of] that intellectual property of the source code being contributed by various people." You CAN'T tell if other people's (besides SCO's) IP are hidden somewhere deep inside Linux. "
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Bad day for Microsoft?
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Yellow Dog Linux.
Yellow Dog Linux home page, here's a review on OS News.
There really are no problems running Linux on Mac hardware. :) -
Re:Bogus Post! Did you read the marketing blurb?
well here osnews does show OSX installing inside of a linux enviroment
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See also
See also the same story on OSNews yesterday.
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Time to start using FreeBSD now?
SCO cannot have any claims over FreeBSD now. Maybe the thing that hurt freebsd's adoption most during its early days will now actually help it.....
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For those who don't like fink...
At the same time, I don't want to mess with Fink, it introduces complexity. For example, having two sets of binaries in different places doesn't mean you can run shell scripts without changing them if they were written expecting one set to be somewhere it isn't.
DarwinPorts
DarwinPorts FAQ
Interview with Jordan Hubbard on DarwinPorts (Slashdot article)
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More reviewsIn OSNews there is also a good review of SuSE 8.2 for a desktop user, comparing it with Redhat 9.
In the other hand, in Linux and Main they have a mostly negative review.
But, at least for me, it installed without problems in the systems I tried, and it looks more mature than 8.1, is not just a package versions upgrade.
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This is a good review
This review of SuSE is much more informative:
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for(!=FP; !="5, informative"; goatse++)
Why the fuck do i have to preview my comments? I am the 37337 gentoo troll! Looks like im trolling elsewhere!
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Single page viewprinter friendly version
Note: there's a warning page for those not clicking from the main article page. Just click through.
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OS news sucks.
Every other article is anti linux propaganda, Euginea needs a gentoo stage 1 boostraped up his ass to make him see sense.
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All on one page (printer-friendly version)For those of you with slow connections or who just hate clicking 10 times to read a story, here's the interview all on one page.
Enjoy!
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Using money...
they have $30 billion in cash
And since right now their biggest competitor is themselves, they are using that money to try to push win2003 further, by Giving it away with "evluation kits"...
Well, they seems to have learn a couple of things from FOSS... like "try before you buy"... -
Using money...
they have $30 billion in cash
And since right now their biggest competitor is themselves, they are using that money to try to push win2003 further, by Giving it away with "evluation kits"...
Well, they seems to have learn a couple of things from FOSS... like "try before you buy"... -
Linux port in the works!
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Slashdot Ubiquity
I think it's interesting that so many sites are copying the basic format of slashdot.org. This is only the most recent example. For others visit xwin.org and osnews.com. Innovation is dead.
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GNOME Armageddon (posted by someone with balls)
Dear reader the GNOME armageddon has started,
First of all I want to clarify that this text was meant to be a source of information otherwise i wouldn't have spent so much time into writing it.
Belive me it took me a couple of days writing this text in a foreign language.
Even if you don't care at all for GNOME, you may find some interesting information within this text that you like to read. please try to understand my points even if it's hard sometimes, otherwise you wake up one day and feel the need to switch to a different operating system.
On the following lines i'm trying to give you a little insight of the GNOME [gnome.org] community. the things that are going on in the back, the information that could be worth talking and thinking about.
Many of us like the GNOME desktop and some of us were following it since the beginning. GNOME is a promising project because it's mostly written in C, easy to use, configurable and therefore fits perfectly into the philosophy of *NIX, only to name some of its advantages.
Unfortunately these advantages changed with the recently new released version of GNOME. The core development team somehow got the idea of targeting GNOME to a complete different direction of users, the so called corporate desktop user.
In other words they're targeting people that aren't familiar or experienced with desktop environments. usually business oriented people who are willing to pay money for getting GNOME on their computers.
Having this new target in mind, the core development team mostly under contract by companies like RedHat, [redhat.com] Ximian [ximian.com] and Sun [sun.com] decided to simplify the desktop as much as even possible by removing all its flexibility in favor of an easy clean simple interface to not confuse their new possible customers. So far the idea of a clean easy to use desktop is honourable.
Some of the new ideas, features and implementations such as gconf, [gnome.org] an evil Windows Registry-like system, new ordering of buttons and dialogs, the removal of 90%-95% of all visible preferences from the control center and applications, the new direction that GNOME leads and the attitude of the core development team made a lot of users really unhappy. These are only a couple of examples and the list can easily be expanded but for now this is enough. Now let me try to get deeper into these aspects.
You may imagine that users got really frustrated, [osnews.com] because their beloved GNOME desktop matured into something they didn't want. During the time, the frustration of a not less amount of people increased. more, [gnome.org] more [gnome.org] and more [gnome.org] emails arrived on the GNOME mailinglists where users tried to explain their concerns, frustrations and the leading target of GNOME.
But the core development team of GNOME don't give a damn about what their users are thinking or wanting and most of the time they come up with their standard purl. The reply they give is mostly the same -- users should either go and 'file a bug' at BugZilla [gnome.org] or the user mails are being turned so far that at the end they sound like being trolls or the user feedback is simply not wanted. whatever happens the answers aren't really satisfying for the user. even constructive feedback [gnome.org] isn't appreciated.
If you gonna think about this for a minute then things gonna harden tha
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GNOME Armageddon
Dear reader the GNOME armageddon has started,
First of all I want to clarify that this text was meant to be a source of information otherwise i wouldn't have spent so much time into writing it.
Belive me it took me a couple of days writing this text in a foreign language.
Even if you don't care at all for GNOME, you may find some interesting information within this text that you like to read. please try to understand my points even if it's hard sometimes, otherwise you wake up one day and feel the need to switch to a different operating system.
On the following lines i'm trying to give you a little insight of the GNOME community. the things that are going on in the back, the information that could be worth talking and thinking about.
Many of us like the GNOME desktop and some of us were following it since the beginning. GNOME is a promising project because it's mostly written in C, easy to use, configurable and therefore fits perfectly into the philosophy of *NIX, only to name some of its advantages.
Unfortunately these advantages changed with the recently new released version of GNOME. The core development team somehow got the idea of targeting GNOME to a complete different direction of users, the so called corporate desktop user.
In other words they're targeting people that aren't familiar or experienced with desktop environments. usually business oriented people who are willing to pay money for getting GNOME on their computers.
Having this new target in mind, the core development team mostly under contract by companies like RedHat, Ximian and Sun decided to simplify the desktop as much as even possible by removing all its flexibility in favor of an easy clean simple interface to not confuse their new possible customers. So far the idea of a clean easy to use desktop is honourable.
Some of the new ideas, features and implementations such as gconf, an evil Windows Registry-like system, new ordering of buttons and dialogs, the removal of 90%-95% of all visible preferences from the control center and applications, the new direction that GNOME leads and the attitude of the core development team made a lot of users really unhappy. These are only a couple of examples and the list can easily be expanded but for now this is enough. Now let me try to get deeper into these aspects.
You may imagine that users got really frustrated, because their beloved GNOME desktop matured into something they didn't want. During the time, the frustration of a not less amount of people increased. more, more and more emails arrived on the GNOME mailinglists where users tried to explain their concerns, frustrations and the leading target of GNOME.
But the core development team of GNOME don't give a damn about what their users are thinking or wanting and most of the time they come up with their standard purl. The reply they give is mostly the same -- users should either go and 'file a bug' at BugZilla or the user mails are being turned so far that at the end they sound like being trolls or the user feedback is simply not wanted. whatever happens the answers aren't really satisfying for the user. even constructive feedback isn't appreciated.
If you gonna think about this for a minute then things gonna harden that they are directing into the commercial area. The core development team actually don't care for the complaining home user -- it's more
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funny really.
> is a problem which stands in the way of major adoption of Linux on the desktop.
Don't run GNOME, trash RedHat and install a Distro which installs KDE as default. The problem why people belive that Linux is not ready for the Desktop is that one of the leading Distros (RedHat, which get bought mostly by Customers and Business) has a mixture of unfinished GNOME + other applications and sells it as "fullworthy" (but still half working) Desktop OS to their customers. These people mostly have the first contact to Linux that way, they start what RedHat offers them as default and play around with it. They are not significantly impressed of whats offered there and trash it in favor to Windows again and mark it - 'Linux is not ready for Desktop'. I think they would have made a better impression about Linux and the Desktop if they first met KDE because it comes really close to what they are used to on Windows and because it already offers a lot of applications that you search on GNOME List of KDE apps. I came from the GNOME plattform and using KDE these days because I belive it to be a cool Desktop and I belive it to be supperior in many cases. I do respect GNOME and KDE as Desktops and I do respect the people working on it but we should also face the reality and see the requirements for business and if we compare both Desktops then the answer is obviously clear that KDE fill that gap perfeclty because of it's OO design, because of it's seamless integration, fast development, cool applications and RAPID development. I know I will heaten this conversation again but GNOME should face the reality and stop 'marketing' GNOME as THE Desktop on Open Source. If people met it the first time (specially customers and business people) they get a wrong impression and this won't help the Open Source Desktop that fills their requirements because they had the first contact with the wrong Desktop. Linux and Open Source is indeed ready for the Desktop. Sad that Distros sell them the wrong one. Think about my sentences before replying and think about it clearly. GNOME is progressing slowly and they are missing a lot of applications that may be interesting for business. For hackers it may be the cool Desktop but not for business, they have other requirements.
And before I get flamed: greets,
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Re:greatCause reviews are so well-written these days.
1) Installation was a snap. It autodetected my SBLive! Value as well as my ATI Radeon 9000 and installed the drivers automagically. I even got a nice boot screen! However, my modem wasn't detected automatically.
)2) The new KDE desktop looks great. I can't believe the font rendering is so great! However, I tried to install app foo, and the rpm required lib bar, and I had to install bar from a previous distribution, and it seemed to overwrite stuff!
Conclusion? A very nice desktop distro, but it's just not quite "ready" yet. It needs to work out a few kinks before it can beat Windows.
End review, and begin huge flamewars in comments section (along with 300 "You haven't upgraded to gentoo yet? For shame! Kde is as easy as 'emerge kde'" posts).
I know this review is different, but have you seen OS News lately? Kudos to Eugenia for her hard and unpaid work, but man the discussions and reviews (not hers, but the guest reviewers) have gotten really formulaic.
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Re:Any reviews yet?
Check osnews.com. There are several reviews and links to reviews posted there.
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Re:Yeah bit torrent, yeah ISO out...blah blah blah
Check this article out: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119
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OSnews reviews SuSE 8.2
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Re:Yeah, well...
Check out Peanut linux only 340mg download, not too bad.
Not mini enough? Did you miss the os news discussion on other linux distros Check some of the ones listed there. Good luck! -
Re:Another distro diaryMe thinks it's time to set-up www.troll-diary.org and let these reviews be posted alongside the usual ill-thought-out "Linux won't succeed until..." and "distro x isn't as good as BeOS because...". It'll save me checking them out at least
:)Dude, we've got that already. And that *plus* a dominatrix style webmistress who doesn't know the language she's writing in. You can't top that.
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Yes, this is funny...
Because it reminds me of something familiar... Or should I say someone?
You'd have thunk that with the recent 'review' of Mandrake 9.1 more people would have picked up on the similarities...
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Re:Fukt Gnome menus
RedHat 9.0 review at OS News:
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Re:review? production environment?
According to Eugenia, 9.1rc3 is also the final version, as she points out in an update to her article. (She get no points for grammar on that one. I've seen the language butchered much more thoroughly, but she's supposed to be a professional.)
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Check out the awesome screenshots
Specifically right here. The infamous Trollaxor is on Eugenia's gAim.
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Re:What's new in 9?
There is an answer here
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SuSE and Mandrake.
Don't forget SuSE as well: OS News.
In addition, 64-bit Mandrake has been available for almost 2 weeks now.
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SuSE and Mandrake.
Don't forget SuSE as well: OS News.
In addition, 64-bit Mandrake has been available for almost 2 weeks now.
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P4 a better candidate than Itanium for Apple
Here is a good insight on Apple on Itanium:
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3076#833 07
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Correct link
The correct link for the article is here
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Correct link
over here.
Shameless, I am. -
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3090
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Correct URLThe correct URL for the article is:
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Real Link
Here is the real link to the article on OSNews
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