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The RCMP cadet school has been located there in the mean time to fulfill some kind of purpose I guess...

  http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recr...

Incorrect. The restriction to 5 rounds is for semi-automatic center-fire rifles or handguns. There is no restriction for non-semiautomatic center-fire rifles or handguns. Clarification at http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-...

The shooter's weapon has been reported as a Winchester .30-.30 model 94, lever action. It's capacity is 8 rounds, and is perfectly legal to own in Canada, given your Possession and Acquisition License.

The point remains the same however - our firearms restraints make it difficult to go on a broad shooting rampage. Reloading the model 94 is a royal PITA (I know, it was my go-to deer hunting rifle for several years). Even with practice I doubt the 30 second reload time widely quoted.

And as I'm forced to interject in any gun-control talk, the main threat from guns is not a wack-job shooter, though they get all the press. The main threat is accidental/unintentional discharge by minors. The most critical change the US could make to its gun laws is to force (and enforce) unloaded storage with ammunition kept separate.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recr...

http://www.thestar.com/news/gt...

One Third isn't really most. It's bad enough you don't need to hyperbolize.

Everything from the government is supposed to be published in english and french.

And it is: english version, version française.

Everything from the government is supposed to be published in english and french.

And it is: english version, version française.

You're right in suggesting that Canadians almost certainly also had their data stolen.

Aside from that, one correction. This story deals with security breaches.

These are Canadian breeches.

Canadian regulations:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm

Seems reasonable. If you can afford the gun you should be able to afford to secure it.

A: in 1780s America, guns were typically flintlocks and muskets.

And we didn't have email, the internet and digital books. Your point? The gatling gun and the rifled mini ball were the advanced arms of their time and believe me, these same arguments were used in the 1800s...

B: Australia has virtually no legal civillian gun ownership and their firearms homicide rate has dropped 47% between 1991 and 2001. (nb. AU bought back guns from owners in 1996)
C: Provinces and Cities outside of the US with strict gun control regimes are some of the safest places to be in North America wrt gun related homicides. (n.b. CA ended casual gun ownership in 1997 with Bill C-51)

Homicides and violent crime are what matters, not "gun homicides". People who die and who are attacked but can't defend themselves are what, morally superior if they are not armed? Read John Lott's book and tell me that your handful of cherry picked examples matters...

Oh, BTW Lets see how Australia is doing these days...
http://www.youtube.com/embed/hoB3GBuhehA

By using manipulated stats you are biasing the conclusion. Canada has also been loosening it's firearms laws in recent years. More importantly Australia's violent crime rate is rising as the criminals learn how to work the system. The UK has a very high violent crime rate 5+ times ours because those who fight back get in more trouble than those who just suck it up and take it. The yobs run the show there.

D: just because someone is for reasonable limits on guns doesn't mean they don't know anything. Your arrogance is absurd when some of us think reasonable gun limits and gun rights can be reconciled.

The people in this thread are not trying to reconcile gun rights with anything. They are secure in their belief that certain things are not covered by the scope of the right and more importantly that any of this crap matters. The VT shooter used handguns and killed more people, all of whom where capable of fighting back (as opposed to kindergarteners) than the lunatic in CT but yet they demonize extra killy clips and black rifles. In CO the kid actually killed very few and had a 100 rd drum. Oh, it jammed. Yeah, that's what they do. They suck. The best thing the anti-gunners could do is given them away. They are jam-o-matics. So what is being reconciled here? How am I being arrogant? Because I actually know what I am talking about?

in the US, a concealed carry program that is rigorously administered as well as making manufacturers liable for advertisements and the gun culture they foster would be several ways to achieve these without infringing on a US citizen's right to self defence. We would have to compromise. you're willing to do that, right?

Compromise requires your side give something. All I see is people taking something. Everyone said 10 rounds was acceptable. See what happened in NY? 7 rounds is now the "safe" limit. There is no compromise here. It's all take and no give. If people would actually listen to gun owners, you would know we don't want people to die and that we know how to prevent it. Focus on dangerous people and not on us with no records. But really all people do is focus on plastic boxes and black colored rifles because they want to ban guns and are doing everything and anything to make it happen. Meanwhile lunatics in the subways will continue to kill a few people every month in NYC and the next lunatic school killer will be working on his pipe bomb

A: in 1780s America, guns were typically flintlocks and muskets.

B: Australia has virtually no legal civillian gun ownership and their firearms homicide rate has dropped 47% between 1991 and 2001. (nb. AU bought back guns from owners in 1996)

C: Provinces and Cities outside of the US with strict gun control regimes are some of the safest places to be in North America wrt gun related homicides. (n.b. CA ended casual gun ownership in 1997 with Bill C-51)

D: just because someone is for reasonable limits on guns doesn't mean they don't know anything. Your arrogance is absurd when some of us think reasonable gun limits and gun rights can be reconciled.

in the US, a concealed carry program that is rigorously administered as well as making manufacturers liable for advertisements and the gun culture they foster would be several ways to achieve these without infringing on a US citizen's right to self defence. We would have to compromise. you're willing to do that, right?

Well hopefully it doesn't lead to light bulb smuggling as it did with cigarettes (at least here in Canada anyway)

According to the RCMP:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/res-rec/deaths_deces-eng.htm
between 1987 and 1996 there were approximately 183 firearm related homicides per year.
According to WP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate ), we have about 0.76 deaths per 100k (by comparison the US has 4.14 but then you also have 10x the population).
I personally only know 2 people who I know to own a firearm of any type. My uncle has an old .22 that belonged to me as a kid for use up on the farm - but I doubt he has used it in years for anything, and I know a friend that I knew a long time ago who collected Lee-Enfield Rifles and owned a few pistols for the range. That's it otherwise though. Firearms are just not that common in Canada except in the north, out in the wilderness/countryside etc.

Handguns are not prohibited per se in Canada - there are restrictions on their side (basically targeting against very compact & easily concealable guns), but vast majority of handguns is categorized as "restricted", rather than "prohibited". What this means in practice is that you can own one, and you can take it and shoot it at the range, but you cannot carry it pretty much anywhere else.

Rifles have their own catches - there's a long and seemingly arbitrary list of "prohibited" rifles that lists them by name. The resulting idiocy is that e.g. semi-auto FN FAL is "prohibited" (and hence cannot be legally owned), while (functionally equivalent for all practical purposes) M14 is "unrestricted" (meaning that you can use it for hunting, not just for range). Similarly, the AK family of guns is prohibited - which includes hunting Saiga, of all things! - but military Vz 58 is "unrestricted", which is why it's fairly popular in Canada as a civilian-legal rough equivalent of AK.

You can see the details here.

But if you think about it from a business standpoint it would probably cost less to implement than $365 Million for Canada

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams-fraudes/cc-fraud-fraude-eng.htm

And they current batch-based systems could still be used for this... just smaller chunks...

Given that a significant percentage(canadian statistics) of children who are the victims of violent crimes committed by their own family, there is something decidedly sinister about this. I am not sure what the percentage of violent crimes commit against children by people they met online is but I imagine it pales in comparison to the 30-40% committed by family members. It seems to me that the only real purpose of a keymapper would be to know if your kids ever tell anyone "daddy hits me sometimes". Conversely, the better method that was suggested by posters above: that parents simply educate their children about the internet, will result in the children being aware how easy it is to report such things to an authority who will act on the information.

As is so often the case, the claimed purpose of security is the opposite of the actual effect.

As far as "weapons" was concerned, I don't know enough about Canadian law -- what is and is not classed as a "weapon" -- to speculate. But his linkedin says he's a licensed private investigator, and in many areas where it's otherwise impossible, a valid PI license sometimes allows a person to carry concealed. So, he could have legally owned a firearm.

Absolutely not.

You will NOT get a license to concealed carry (as is commonly done in some US states). No one gets these.

There are many kinds of firearm license in Canada.

The lowest level is a license to own rifles & shotguns.

The next level is to own pistols. Note that this license does NOT allow you to transport your pistol. You need a SEPARATE license to transport your pistol, and it must have a trigger lock, be in a locked container, and in a locked vehicle.

The next level is to own prohibited weapons. If you don't already have one of these, you aren't getting one. A long time ago, certain weapons were legal. Then the government banned them. In some cases, if you had a license for them, you were grandfathered and allowed to continue to own them.

Civilians are not allowed concealed carry. Civilians are not allowed full-auto firearms.

Interestingly enough, you don't have to live in Canada to have a Canadian gun license. Many Americans who hunt in Canada apply for & receive licenses here to make the process easier.

We do something similar via the RCMP and MP's from the military and RAD here in Canada, but it's aimed for kids and takes 7mins. If you're interested look up, but 20mins is far too long. If you can do it in under 10 and make it easy enough a grade schooler can figure it out then you're all set.

This is a common myth. Police officers are *rarely* killed on the job.

Once is enough to make the rest of them kinda skittish

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In less than 10 years, from one police force, in Canada. There have probably been more, but I'm getting depressed searching for them.

Are you sure about that? From the quick facts side-bar on the CPIC overview page:

The Automated Canada United States Police Information Exchange System (ACUPIES) provides CPIC users a link to the U.S. National Crime Information Centre data banks, and all U.S. users access to the CPIC files. Currently, this link is processing over 12 million transactions per year.

Wikipedia links to a reference that claims that the "wandering persons" database (for tracking alzheimers patients) is not shared with the US. So they don't get complete access, but they can access CPIC.

Have there been any beheadings on Canadian buses lately? Or has that story "just gone away" due to the fickleness of the media and election feeding frenzy?

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/news/2008/2008_08_01_greyhound_record_e.htm

Seriously, what exactly is a Gaming Commission and what executive powers do they have? It is a real question btw.

The Kahnawake Gaming Commission is located on a Native Reserve, South of Montreal, Canada. What kind of Legal power do they have? It's certainly not federal or provincial! Can it be trusted?

Some folks over on Wikipedia are also questionning this.

I'll probably be 'trolled down' if I mention that 'some' Kahnawake Mohawks have had 'some' legal issues in the past (read: tobacco contraband, drug smugglin') because it is most likely not the same guys who run the Gaming Commission and it's non-relevant. However, as a Quebec resident, I can't help but relate what I see in the news 'bout Kahnawake Mohaks and the KGC.

Posting AC per my lawyer advice.

our laws don't permit the prosecution of someone for a crime committed outside of the country

With the notable exception for war crimes of course. And a quick look brought up other interesting examples such as PART II.1 Section 83.18(3)(c)(ii) of your Criminal Code relating to committing an offense "... an act or omission outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would be a terrorism offence;". Now, I'm not a Canadian lawyer but I would hazard a guess that there are more examples.

The Canadian Nazi won't be "held accountable" in Canada

And according to PART XIV on Jurisdiction, Section 481.2 says: "... where an act or omission is committed outside Canada and the act or omission, when committed in those circumstances, is an offence ... proceedings in respect thereof may, whether or not the accused is in Canada, be commenced, and an accused may be charged, tried and punished within any territorial division in Canada in the same manner as if the offence had been committed in that territorial division.".

And its unconstitutional to extradite for something that isn't an offense in Canada.

Actually that's not the whole truth after the Extradition Act of 1999 the crime no longer has to pass the same "duality test". I quote: "The new process instead requires a analysis of the alleged offense for which extradition is sought and if a similar offense prevails in Canada, ... the test will have been met".

Also extradition is probably subject to the long line of treaties with individual countries that Canada has with most the Western world at least. I found this article on the subject very interesting.

In conclusion the answer has be that it certainly appears as though Canada can prosecute crimes committed abroad however as always certain conditions have to be met. I won't press my point further as I am not familiar with Canadian law and I might also be plain wrong :)

RCMP stands for "Royal Canadian Mounted Police".

Please people, don't make fun of RCMP. RCMP hasn't use horses for a very long time, so it has nothing to do with horses.

The RCMP continues to use horses to this day. Ever seen the Musical Ride? It's done on horseback.

Rather impressive, albeit useless.

In Canada, the RCMP's Threat and Risk Assessment (TRA) for Information Technology is a popular approach. It categorizes threats according to impact (grave, serious, less serious) and likelihood (high, medium, low) and prioritizes the threats from 1 to 9. Here's the link to the guide:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/tsb/pubs/it_sec/index_e. htm

This approach is process oriented and not focused on specific technologies. The date on the guide is 1994 and it is still in common use, so it has stood the test of time.

I once attended a TRA workshop and the instructor was in favor of a "keep it simple" approach. He cited the complexity of other approaches as being unnecessary, unproductive, uncomprehendible and unsellable. ROI wasn't used to justify the implementation of safeguards.

If ROI is necessary, then you will have to estimate the future cash outlays for safeguard implementation and the future savings from the increased security. The ROI is the discount rate at which the net present value of these outlays and savings is zero. Estimating cash outlays should be fairly objective, whereas estimating future savings would be assumption based. These assumptions would have to be believable.

Alternatively, you could demonstrate that the minimum ROI criteria will be met by stating that the safeguard will provide "at least" a certain amount of savings. Either way you won't be held accountable for achieving these actual savings as they can't be measured. You could, however, be held accountable for future security breaches. That's why a TRA approach that is consensus based is useful from a CYA perspective.

Heh, that would be http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/, although they are more like the CIA in reguards to their responsibilities....as they are more responsible for stuff outside the country. The RCMP is (see: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ for more info about them) is the closest thing we (Canadian's) have to the Secret Service. although, seeing as they pretty much helped condem a man to jail and torcher in Syria for a few years i don't really trust them...see more here: http://www.ararcommission.ca/eng/, not to talk about how there have been several people in Canada recently released out of jail because they were convicted wrongly for murder.

.... I have to admit that when it comes to crime, they done a few good things for the universe. The best thing I can think of is besides the topics covered in this article CETS which is a Microsoft designed product to fight child pron/exploitation.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/news/2005/n_0510_e.htm

Before we go bashing M$, maybe we should at least give an "attaboy" as they occasionally do good.

A cheap cylinder lock is secure enough to deter a passing opportunist (eg, not someone who carries a bump) and should be used as such.

Actually it seems to work against just about anything with split pins, regardless of its price. That's a helluva lot of locks.

To secure your house or office you shouldn't look at anything less than a Mortis or a deadlock, and you should have at least two on each entry point. Windows should lock from the inside, again with deadlocks.

I was intrigued by your statement, so I did some quick research. What I discovered is as follows:

Deadbolt locks* are cylinder locks; they just have the weight of a bolt holding the pins down instead of just springs. There's no reason why bump attacks shouldn't still be successful against this type of lock since the principle of bumping is somewhat different than pin scraping.

Mortise locks are just locks which are inserted into a hollowed out portion of the door -- it has nothing to do with the mechanism inside, and from what I was able to find out, most modern mortise locks contain cylinders.

* Which is what I assume you meant, since the only definition of a deadlock I can find is a situation wherein two or more competing actions are waiting for the other to finish, and thus neither ever does. I have no idea how you propose putting a deadbolt on a window, but maybe you meant something else.

References:

http://images.google.com/images?q=mortise%20locks
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/tsb/pubs/phys_sec/g1-017 _e.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadbolt

While the actual requirements are much lower, for a while the Canadian RCMP had so many applicants to pick and chose from that you pretty well needed a bachelor's degree (and a minor in criminology was a good idea) to get into the training programme. Provincial (Quebec and Ontario) and city police forces don't have the same requirement and have their own training schools. RCMP provide policing services through most of western rural Canada and in the Atlantic provinces.

In Canada, we have four letter agencies. Any Tor proxies in Canada will not be scanned by mere 3 letter agencies.

Not that we'd look. After all, we're a polite people.

You can find "comments" from the scene people here along with a copy of two search warrants by the RCMP for two of the raids that occured in Edmonton, Canada. (Coral Cache of the above, just in case)

Some information about Site Down can be found here.

And whoever is saying that RCMP is targetting sceners, take a look at their Strategic Priorities... My bet is that, just as it happened in the States, they are being pressured by the CRTC (Canada's equivalent to MPAA and RIAA all in one), and with that new DMCA-like law, what could possibly stop them from raping every canadian file trader like they did (and continue to do) to the US'?

You didn't hear it from me!

Sex Offenders are also tracked in Canada. Info about the National Sex Offender Registry Why the Ontario Sex Offender Registry was created

Sex Offenders are dispicable people. In my opinion, they should be castrated.

RCMP

I have a few friends in CS who got CO-OP jobs with the Communications Security Establishment in Ottawa. No pre-existing security clearance was needed. You might also try the RCMP.

The RCMP enforces federal laws and statutes.

In provinces where there is no provincial police, it also enforces provincial laws and statutes, usually as a police force under contract with the provincial government.

Some cities and towns also contract the RCMP for municipal police services as well.

From their website: We provide a total federal policing service to all Canadians and policing services under contract to the three territories, eight provinces (except Ontario and Quebec), approximately 198 municipalities and, under 172 individual agreements, to 192 First Nations communities.

Also for those who don't know, "First Nations" refers to Native Americans.

I'm paying $20 for mine ($15.71 USD @ 0.785237). I wouldn't call it a deal really though, since the government sees fit to subsidize them. Its a whole other debate whether this kind of thing is in the same category as highways and other infrastructure. I just don't think its fair to compare US ISP prices to Canadian ones, the rules of the game are very different.

I'm not sure what you meant by the Canadians have less money thing though. The gap between rich-vs-poor is probably much smaller in Canada than the US. But I don't think you can make a general assumption that we have less money. For example, if you compare your average Canadian Joe with his southern counterpart, Canada Joe is much better off this January than he was last January. I tried to take a look at the overall median income for both countries in 2000 (The only common recent year I can seem to find statistical data for), we're pretty equal.

USA $42,148 USD ($60,832.21 CDN @ 0.6929 - Dec1999 exchange rate) or at todays rate $53,679.69 CDN
Canada = $55,016 CDN

I don't know exactly how to compare the two considering the rise and fall of the US $ over the past few years. There's too many other factors like taxation rates, and services available, and regional conditions for me to make a call on it. My idea of an urban ghetto is probably very different than USA Joe's too. I say urban ghetto, because my previous job had me travelling in northern Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. Let me tell you, some of those reserves are scary places to be, but I think the reasons may be very different, and the populations are much much smaller.

I'm going to submit before I get the urge to haul out my Stats 100 text. (Which reminds me, the comparison of US to Canadian tuition rates would be another interesting study)

Report Economic Crime On Line is an international effort to stop this sort of thing. It is true that greed causes the scams to flourish. The people who's wallets are emptied are someone's mom, dad, aunt, or uncle. Here is a commercial in Windows Media Format. and a text version

Report Economic Crime On Line is an international effort to stop this sort of thing. It is true that greed causes the scams to flourish. The people who's wallets are emptied are someone's mom, dad, aunt, or uncle. Here is a commercial in Windows Media Format. and a text version

The obvious answer, as others have already posted, is to go directly to the police. I don't know about Canada...

Plus, they ride in on the horses, so, worst case, you get to see some horses. It's like the cavalry coming to help fight privacy crimes, how frickin' cool is that?

What? You mean Los Alamos security is run by Disney? No, it's true -- we licenced the IP rights of the RCMP to Disney. Weird or what? :^)

There is an alternative to so called "blood diamonds" or "conflict diamonds" though. Diamonds have been discovered in canada in the last 10 years, and were initially produced by junior companies. de Beers has already bought out at least one of the diamond sites, scheduled for production in 2006, but diamond production in Canada since 1991 has been of the highest ethical quality. You can tell Canadian produced diamonds as they are laser inscribed with a microscopic polar bear outline (although I think some jewellers now use an inscribed maple leaf inside a diamond outline).

Here are some good articles:
All you ever wanted to learn about how diamonds form
Police warning about Canadian diamonds
Information on the original diamond mine in Canada [pdf]

Serveral of the "security agencies" in Canada offer courses which are fairly strong overviews. The RCMP technical security branch offers a number of workshops for free. I have taken the 4 day IT security officer and 1 day malacious code course and both were very good overviews.

The Communications Security Establishement (Canada's NSA) offers a number of courses quite cheap. This is a good place to start and often provide a wealth of resources for additional learning. I would look into whether the same exist in your country...

SANS reading room boasts 1300 research papers. Here are some other places for reading off the top of my head:

@Stake
phrack
antionline
securityfocus

There are tons more if you look

Sig, Shmig...who needs one

During Pine Lake, "individuals" decided that they needed to use the 12 available Cell channels in the remote town to do Live reports back to the Big Cities... so they grabbed the cell frequencies and NEVER HUNG UP! These press people are not terribly popular when they hogged resources that ambulance and SAR people might also want to use!

Fortunately there are a lot of HAM operators in Alberta and they were able to provide radio relays to the SAR people and bypass the phone service.

-AD

Anyways... Internal vulnerability to attack is nothing new, its always been considered the most likely source of an attempt on an organization's security. However, recent reports from law enforcement show that the rising threat of external attack is starting to become more serious than in previous years.

Of course, internal vulnerability to fraud and data theft are still very important (USB keychain datastorage, keystroke monitors, and cd burners in workstations pose significant risks).

2002 CSI/FBI Computer Crime and Security Survey

Hackers: a Canadian police perspective Part I

I pay for DSL, i can run *WHATEVER* i want on it. Saying "tough beans" is a little short sighted.

If, on the other hand, they would like to have me charged me (as in contact the RCMP or %your_local_federal_police%) for cracking i would 'understand'... the rule of law is always the highest order, to simply make endless arrays of rules in contracts - and force people to abide by them (least they go without(be martyrs)) then why have Law? Why have Legislature? Corporate COntracts for all manner of 'things' are creaping into every crack of life. These "contracts" force people to give up their rights in order to exist in a corporate controlled world... think IM nuts? go read some of the EULA discussed on /. this week... NO CONTRACT SHOULD EVER LIMIT FUNDEMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS.

This isnt exactly a 'cut and dry' issue, these contracts basically allow, arbitrary 'for the greater good' decisions to be made by the DSL providers... I know that their TOS probably say "no bandwidth hogging servers" but, when ALL DSL is provided under the same TOS it becomes a method for DSL providers to make decisions about what I may - and may not - run on my box. I pay for bandwidth, allowing them to decided what data i may send and rec oversteps the bounds on my 'RIPE FOR ABUSE' meter.

Think of the Censorship analogy - if they can censor some speech, then they are only an 'arbitrary decision' away from censoring *YOUR* speech. Whats to stop them from saying "you cannot download streaming OGG because there is no publisher-protection-scheme built it, and you may be violating copyright...

again, i may sound a bit unreasonable, or maybe paranoid, OBVIOUSLY I am not saying we want to allow these worms to run, but we must be weary of 'seemingly' reasonable decisions when made by 'powerful' (plutocratic) people.

this would be a great reason to sue the company to fucking smithereens, but unfortunately it has probably already folded so one couldn't collect anything.

What? Sue Canada Post to smithereens? Canada's national mail service, owned by the Government of Canada? Actually, counting the national debt, the finances of the company are in the red by about $500 billion, which is not unlike most dot-coms.

Oh well... one can always visit the homes of its boardmembers with a cigar-cutter, mafia-style, and make yourself a nice necklace of fingers

Let me give you the address of the Chairman: 24 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. You can't miss it; it's the one with big tall gates, security cameras, and badass RCMP everywhere.

Actually us Canadians prefer to express our displeasure non-lethally, with pies in the face and such. But don't get too close, he's been known to personally handle protesters by the neck. Probably something he learned from watching Hockey Night in Canada.

Beautiful. Thank you, I was seriously wondering if I was the only one who was told to leave the country by my peers when I asked if all these silly crappy socialist programs were really so good after all.

Of course, I was told stuff like, "Well, if you feel that way, Canada is better off without you", etc. In fact, there have already been several instances of that from my fellow Canadians in this thread.

Now, Canadian socialists are, by definition, multiculturalists. They believe in respecting and loving every culture, every religion, everybody, even if the values of the minority culture clash violently with those of the majority (European/Western) Canadian culture.

For example, they're offended when a Sikh member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is told that he can't wear a turban and carry the ceremonial dagger of *his* culture while also wearing the uniform of an icon of the culture of Canada, his adopted homeland.

And despite this tolerance, they're also *completely* intolerant to other political viewpoints, even when presented with valid, rational and logical questions which undermine the propaganda that the NDP, the Socialist Worker's Party of Canada - hell, even the Liberal Party - has imparted on them.

If they weren't so dangerous to economic growth (and therefore the prosperity of all the citizens of the country!), swatting down socialist propaganda would be a lot of fun.

Now, here's another neat trick: despite the fact that I haven't said anything here that's not absolutely true, and my viewpoint is intelligent and well presented, I'll be moderated down by someone who disagrees with the content simply because it's anti-socialist. Just watch, remembering that moderator guidelines tell you to moderate based on fact and quality of the opinion, not based on whether or not you personally agree with it. My original post is probably the only one in the history of Slashdot that I've ever seen to carry a "+4, Troll" moderation. [grin]

• The nearest equivalent to the FBI ... is the RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The RCMP also provides the services provided in the US by the Treasury Police, including dealing with "crimes about currency," and the protection of heads of state and diplomatic persons.
• The RCMP used to also perform services equivalent to the CIA, but this group was spun out, becoming CSIS - Canadian Security and Intelligence Service.

  There was a scandal where RCMP "spooks" burned a barn where purportedly nefarious people were planning ill; the "public" view was that this made the RCMP look bad, and so the RCMP wanted no more to do with the "spooky" activities. When they're the "secret service," who can really be sure???. The public face on this was thus:

  The establishment of the civilian Canadian Security Intelligence Service and the disbanding of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Security Service by an Act of Parliament in 1984 recognized the differences between security intelligence activities and law enforcement work. The 120-year old interlocking of Canada's security intelligence service with the federal police force was brought to a close.

• The nearest equivalent to the NSA is the Communications Security Establishment, an "establishment" in the Department of National Defence.

  See also the CSE Unofficial Web Page, which has a rather interesting discussion of the organization.

  They are a mixed civilian/military group largely devoted to "signals analysis," and include pretty much the same functions associated with the NSA, notably not including having their own chip foundries. (Unless there's one hiding somewhere in Labrador!)

  Notable "listening" sites include Gander (a formerly notable airport), Alert (the most northerly inhabited place in the world), Masset, and Kingston. My father used to work next door to CSE headquarters, the Sir Leonard Tilley Building.