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"UK Government To Terminate File Sharers' Net Access" implies that something is actually going to happen. It's a misreporting of the situation.

What's happened is that:

o Andy Burnham, a member of the current government, has said that he is going to publish a green paper next week called "The World's Creative Hub".

o In what seems to be a leak to the Times, the Times has extrapolated a conversation with a minion into a news article. The BBC seems to have no external source as it's saying "The Times suggested...". ...and that's it.

It's worth remembering that this is a green paper - "a tentative government report of a proposal without any commitment to action" (that quote stolen from wikipedia because I couldn't define it better myself). It's not a law, nor a proposed law, nor something that is expected to be written up and proposed to become a law.

What happens next is that people either welcome it, or are outraged by it, or a mixture of both. All political parties say they are/are not in favour of idea X depending on whether there are any votes in it. Assuming there is some actual reason to continue (i.e. votes) in this it'll get written up as a white paper. That's an actual intention to do something (which is what a green paper isn't), but it still isn't a proposed law. That stage occurs if and when it gets introduced to parliament as a bill (which will happen if there are still votes in it) and if the government hasn't run out of parliamentary time.

Assuming that the government still has (a) time, (b) a working majority and (c) the will to proceed (still votes in it) it'll pass as a government-sponsored bill.

Of those three, (b) is a given, (a) could be very tricky and (c) is pretty unlikely - this doesn't sound like a votewinner to me.

So what's actually happening then?

o Andy Burnham presumably wants to look busy and useful. The DCMS isn't exactly an "action department", so he has to look like he's doing something if he's to progress up the greasy pole. Making unpopular ideas seem palatable (even if ultimately rejected) is likely to earn him brownie points.

o The Times is from a stable including content producers Fox and Sky and isn't exactly an independent observer, so their spin on the conversation isn't actually surprising. The BBC's a content producer too...

It's not even a new idea - it's stolen from the French:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKL2346825720071123?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

Note that there it's not law there either - the nearest it's got to that is being proposed by an industry panel and included in a speech by Nicolas Sarkozy. The Times says "...is implementing..." when describing what they're up to, which could be argued as being correct, but is at the very least misleading. The BBC seems to have missed that bit out of the copy and paste.

Of course, what'll really happen is that next month everyone will forget about it and move on to talking about another daft scheme. In the world of the Internet we may move on from "writing postcards" to "sending letters" instead (which is no bad thing). Content providers will still struggle against new technology, governments will still try and look busy and get votes, and news organisations will still publish what are essentially press releases as "news".

"We" did nothing of the sort. It was the Harper government, in yet another example of their ineptitude, simply giving in to American demands for political expediency. The lumber industry and the Canadian public were behind the continued fight at the world trade level. The US "stonewalling" was irrelevant, our industry might have been hurting, but theirs was, and is still, hurting even more. Having the US simply ignore the many rulings in our favour would have helped us start renegotiation of the useless NAFTA agreements, and would have allowed Canada to legally (by WTO standards) begin adding tariff's to US products entering Canada. Had Harper simply swallowed his pride and continued to fight for Canadians, the issue would have been resolved in our favour.

Instead, they demonstrated that they have no intention of protecting Canadians, and the USA now effectively dictates an even larger swath of Canadian policy. Just look at their reaction to Harper's meek announcement of support for people who are in industries hurt by the high dollar. The US lumber industry is calling it a "subsidy" and threatening to retaliate yet again. How long will it take for Harper to give in this time?

Soldiers are more than trained killing machines, they are efficient thinkers who are told at all times to do the honorable thing.

Anyone who attempts to do "the honorable thing" in the U.S. military gets court-martialed.

And what sort of group of efficient thinkers is so ignorant that 85% of them think the U.S. invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein played a role in the 9-11 attacks?

I salute the physical courage, and the willingness to serve their countrymates, of those who enlist. I worry about their ignorance, and their lack of judgment and of moral courage in turning their conscience over to the United States government, an organization known as a great perpetrator of injustice.

It doesn't have anything to do with hate for most of them, it has to do with orders, and that is why they are professionals.

Right, it's all ok as long as you're following orders.

If anyone is considering joining up, I urge meditation on the words of Thoreau:

The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus, etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgement or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others -- as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders -- serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as the rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God. A very few -- as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men -- serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it.

To sony this just means their profit margin got bigger.

You mean their loss margin just got smaller. They're still looking forward to making a profit.

That's just deaths attributable to the conflict, and above normal death rates (old age, diseases etc.)

Survey shows Iraq conflict has killed a million | Top News | Reuters
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL3048857920080130?rpc=401

Of course, Time Warner recently announced a deal with HBO to offer HBO TV shows online for download:
http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN1833864220080121

I guess I'm going to need a high tier plan to use the "services" offered? Someone please tell the left hand what the right hand is doing...

That's a lie. Matt Romney -- a Republican -- created a workable health-insurance system in Massachusetts and is not averse to implementing the same nation-wide. He would not be my top-choice among Republicans, but your claims are false nonetheless.

Despite all that, experts say Clinton's plan borrows heavily from one Romney signed into law when he was governor of Massachusetts, which made the liberal state the first in the United States with near-universal health insurance.

That similarity could be fodder for Romney's rivals vying to be the 2008 Republican presidential nominee.

"Hillary's plan is just like the Massachusetts plan. There's not a whole lot of difference," said Jonathan Gruber, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economics professor who was an adviser to Romney on the state's health care reform law.

Though it was his crowning achievement as governor, Romney has distanced himself from aspects of the law that offend his party's conservative base, including the extent of the government's role. He has proposed a plan that includes federal tax breaks and incentives to states to help the 47 million uninsured Americans afford coverage.

"What works in Massachusetts may not work in Texas," Romney said at a campaign stop in Salt Lake City, Utah.

i was just crawling google news and noticed that a 3rd cable had been cut off the coast of dubai.
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSL0125034820080201

details are scarce at this point, but i wonder if the the egypt cable was really an accident. or if it was, has it given some malefactors some ideas? could this turn into a way for political tensions to present themselves?

i remember reading an article written by neal stephenson for wired in the late 90s. somewhere in it he addressed the issue of a 'fiber war' where nations and other actors would begin cutting undersea cables. it's an old article, but i remember some expert referring to it as 'mutually assured destruction'. (like nuclear war.) meaning that once a couple of cables are cut, it's so easy to cut more quickly, and pretty soon all the cables are cut relatively no time at all. an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind; or disconnected in this case.

Obviously this is the result of U2 manager Paul McGuinness calling on ISP's to disconnect the evil file sharers of the world..

"To great applause from the audience of music managers, McGuinness insisted that disconnection enforcement would work."

How right he was! ;)

"What you do with your web site and file sharing is clearly irrelevant."

When I search on "file sharing Sweden" I get references that state downloading copyrighted material has been illegal since 2005 (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/03/file_sharer_acquitted/, http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKL0988308720070709) and Swedish politicians arguing for the de-criminalisation of non-commercial filesharing http://sigfrid.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/decriminalize-file-sharing/. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but everything I can find suggests that when you say it is "clearly irrelevant", you are full of shit.

Similarly when you express views on what the majority think of TPB. I doubt the majority has even heard of them. Certainly users of TPB are a small minority. Why should I think anything except that you are forming your opinions on the basis of a minority largely disposed in favour of your own opinion?

Repeating that I have a "totalitarian bias" by the way really doesn't make much of an impact on me.

Why assume that I'm trying to make an impact, when it was you who pointed out that my meaning was not clear? You implicitly asked for an explanation, and there's no point in avoiding the word in question. The word is simply the best one to use, and equivalents such as "ideological" or "fundamentalist" are no less pejorative. The original irony was that what you were saying contradicted your intended meaning. I'm confident you missed my point otherwise you wouldn't be saying I'm accusing you of something "sort of opposite" to your stance - something "sort of opposite" is rather necessary for irony to occur.

Rather than making a case for freedom, you were making a wildly subjective statement of why legal process should have an outcome that you morally approve of. That shows a bias that is readily described by words that have strong negative connotations. Freedom for the prosecutor would be to accept fees from anyone he wishes, to try whatever cases he feels appropriate, to make money out of someone else whether or not anyone approved, to be bound neither by the wishes of the plaintiff nor the defendent. You were not arguing for such freedom, but expressing condemnation (with a dash of hysteria). There would be nothing morally wrong with prosecuting a case in line with a corporation's interests if the case itself is valid. Your opinion on whether it is valid is clearly biased; certainly it is not grounded in facts.

Making no attempt to oppose your will or opinions on others does not make you free from such a bias; most people will have a subject or two that gives rise to opinions that contradict their general outlook. Your reliance upon on specious morality, slogans and unjustified certainty suggests that you are currently talking about such a subject.

Yeah it sure is Uncle Jedd!

Qtrax backtrax, according to reuters, the major label deals were smoke n' mirrors. are they smokin mirrors? http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2844446320080129

The housing market has probably corrected see link below. If a recession hits it will likely be because of the fallout in the mortgage industry. However, there are a lot of sectors to the economy doing OK, and I actually doubt there will be much of a recession if any at all just because of one sector. http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSN1655472620080123

Jews, such as the parent poster have a vendetta against Ron Paul, and are attacking him by any means necessary. It seems that Ron Paul is not big on helping the Jews fund their genocide with American tax dollars.

The Jews are once again on the march, exterminating Sand Niggers and Mudslums at a furious pace.

Who will aid the Jews with their genocide? Not Ron Paul.

Your wish is granted:

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS145287+08-Jan-2008+PRN20080108

$1 Billion

but current shipments they have to charge something because of accounting reasons...same reason they had to charge for the 802.11n in the macs that had the hardware but not the software to use the 802.11n standard.

Sweet. couple it with this software and your set!!

I can't see how bandwidth caps would be a good idea for the cable companies, especially when there are competitors out there that don't need to worry about capping their customer's usage. I also want to know how this would play out if other cable companies followed suit, considering that they're promising much faster speeds. I would think that at 160Mbps you could hit your cap pretty quickly (depending of course on what the cap is set at, and your actual usage).

I'm a Time Warner customer, and as far as I'm concerned I'm paying for unlimited usage, and unlimited usage is what I should be getting.

I don't know if you read this article today on Reuters...But I'm afraid they have closed that loophole now.

If you hate Boll, read the article, it's like hot cocoa for the mind. He's pretty much done, as far as wide distribution goes.

I just want them to grow me replacement teeth. The combination of poor oral care and weak enamel on my natural ones have messed me up pretty badly.
There's been some promising work done in the area. Eg. Growing teeth from stem cells and fabricating bones with a 3D printer.
But there's still so far to go :-(

isn't being used in anyway that it keeps being promoted as being

What would you expect?

"During the interview in May, Negroponte said he had known Murdoch since 1986 and had since worked with him on several projects.
"More recently I have come to know (his wife) Wendi and consider Rupert to be one of OLPC's chief strategists," Negroponte said.
"I ask his advice all the time. He asks mine on matters related to computers and communications. I would like to think I have been an influence on his distinctly digital life these days."" (Reuters, emphasis mine)

"Last month, Negroponte's foundation disclosed that News Corp's MySpace social networking site was developing an Internet community for the underprivileged children who receive the group's laptop computers." (same source)

CC.

If you really believe that the XO is the best thing since sliced bread then why is it that companies arent lining up to buy them for their employees? If it really was the best deal wouldnt everyone want them?

The target for the OLPC is education for children. It's not available for general sale so companies don't have anywhere to line up even if they wanted to.

The OLPC is a non-profit organization that is able to get non-profit prices from the manufacturer. They avoid much of the cost with a commercial laptop by doing bulk sales with the local ministries of education who in turn take care of the distribution. Much of the price for commercial machines is due to sales/marketing/distribution costs.

Also note that it is not just a laptop project but an educational project. There's some more infrastructure involved such as the XS school server.

Over time I expect to see variants of the OLPC-XO laptop itself as well as commercial alternatives available using some of the interesting technologies introduced such as:

• Bitfrost computer security
• Per laptop activation/developer keys for firmware security
• Dual mode display

The XO has only just started to be mass-produced so be a bit patient and even though it may not have OLPC in its name there will be some products available which will contain some OLPC based innovation within them.

If anything, this is a start to a goverment for the corporations. Did you notice that everyone in the article listed as unhappy are megacorps upset they can't screw consumers anymore? "Traffic shaping" means colluding to make internet access more profitiable for them, and costly to us. Exclusive contracts are a means of keeping a monopoly on cable, when what's really benefical is more than one unit being able to provide cable services (which include TV, internet and phone).

In the article, the megacorps quotation is written quite separately from the pending Congressional action. There is no indication in the news story exactly why the congresscritters are upset with the FCC.

The Reuter's and AP wire stories (Reuter's story here: link)detailing the letter hint that Congress is displeased with the FCC because the FCC is not allowing the public enough to comment on decisions, and that they are concerned with FCC DEREGULATION over big media. Still, this reasoning is speculative on Reuter's part and we can't really know why the letter is sent and why the Congress wants to meet with the FCC. My point is this: the letter says nothing about letting Comcast off the hook, nothing about deregulating cable, or any other such conspiracy theory that everyone is dreaming up. That big media, even, is complaining about the FCC is purely speculative vis-a-vis the reasoning behind the letter being sent out. Big media may very well be complaining more when this is all over.

That said, there is a strong current that this Congress is upset about things like short public notice and loosening grip on big media (from the Reuter's article above). I'll hope for the best for now, and will try not to add to political distrust when it is unfounded...I think we've had enough of that over the years...

Reid.out

That upgrade is on hold. The problems that knocked the latest Atlantis mission back into February have jacked up the schedule. So it was planned for August but now it will be later. I would think that with eol for the shuttle and hubble both rapidly approaching - any more problems or serious delays and it could get knocked from on hold to canceled.

As much as I hate Verizon Wireless for crippling their phones, if Verizon had 62.1 million subscribers in June 2007 and 63.7 subscribers as of January 8th, 2008, how can they be "hemorrhaging" customers?

AT&T may be clobbering them, adding new acquisitions to 67.3 million lines (from 63.7 in June 07), but Verizon has a turnover rate of less than 2% and they've increased the total # of subscribers since the iPhone release.

The fact that the iPhone shookup the wireless industry and forced others to innovate and improve is true, but Verizon isn't dying. They DO need to play catchup with AT&T though; AT&T is widening their lead.

Ron Paul is a Libertarian running as a Republican.

Actually, I'd say he's a grade-A jerk running as a Libertarian.

Don't take my word for it, read the original material yourself.

Ron Paul's response is that the newsletters, which went out for over two decades under his name from organizations he funded or presided over, do not represent his views. Even if you believe him, is that the level of responsibility and oversight you want in a leader?

I knew that at some point the establishment would become sufficiently afraid of Ron Paul that they would have to resurrect some old smears. Paul is the only honest, intelligent man running. If you want to live in debt and tax slavery vote for any other candidate.

ARLINGTON, Va.--(Business Wire)--In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:

"The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

"In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: 'I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.'

"This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."

Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee
Jesse Benton, 703-248-9115

Copyright Business Wire 2008

Perhaps this announcement coincides with the announcement of their Project Infinity initiative... It would seem they need some kind of data network such as this to be able to shove this kind of content thru the tubes. Regardless, Comcast is still evil. They are an entertainment distributor, not an info distributor so do nothing but contribute to the dumbing of the masses. And like someone said earlier, this kind of content expansion will only come with increased costs and fees; considering all this, there is little win for consumers in these announcements.

There are actually people who are into raw milk, suggesting that the analogy is perhaps not quite appropriate - unless you're suggesting that society is likely to develop an energetic Luddite business community.

So what's left in the god basket?

Every question asking for meanings ("why") rather than mechanisms ("how").

In the fact that these scams are legally tolerated in many of these countries, yes. But, even if it wasn't, the OLPC people are idealists who probably haven't even thought of the possibility of these computers being used for this sort of thing. Just as with the porn controversy, it's likely to catch them off guard if they don't think carefully before they code. An open system is great until people start exploiting it for all the "wrong" reasons.

Japan fingerprints foreigners as anti-terror move

The Internet has just emphasized the incompetence of a profession that, by and large, cannot tell the difference between opinions and facts, and treats the existence of editorials as news. Such recursion in genetics is termed incest. I submit that recursion is equally unhealthy in the flow of pure information as in genetic information.
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN2326769820071223

Canada to ban incandescent light bulbs by 2012

I suppose it makes sense given news stories about Toshiba

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/07/business/worldbusiness/07nuclear.html?pagewanted=print

LONDON, Feb. 6 -- Making a big bet on the future of nuclear power, Toshiba of Japan agreed on Monday to buy Westinghouse Electric, the atomic energy division of British Nuclear Fuels, for $5.4 billion.

The purchase price is about three times the amount analysts estimated in July, because of competition for the unit. Toshiba outbid global giants like Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and General Electric.

Nuclear power is increasingly seen as an alternative to energy sources like coal and oil, as energy demand increases around the world. Atsutoshi Nishida, Toshiba's president and chief executive, speaking at a news conference in London, estimated that demand for nuclear power would grow 50 percent by 2020.

http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUST33395920070402

Toshiba, which is shifting more focus on its nuclear power plant maker, is eyeing demand for thermal power plant turbines, which share the same construction as turbines in nuclear power plants.

Toshiba late last year took a 77 percent stake in Westinghouse, the U.S. power plant unit of British Nuclear Fuels, for $4.16 billion, eyeing growing demand for nuclear power abroad amid fears of global warming and high prices of natural gas and oil.

Toshiba's rivals are also betting on a surge in nuclear power's popularity, including Hitachi Ltd., which plans to pool its nuclear units with GE, and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd, which has partnered with France's Areva.

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Toshiba_to_build_nuclear_engineering_hub_999.html

Tokyo (AFP) Oct 22, 2007
Japan's Toshiba Corp. said Monday it would develop a state-of-the-art nuclear engineering facility as it forecast demand will continue to grow for atomic power plants.

Toshiba said it would start work on the building next year and expected it to be open by March 2009.

Actually, the 101st is being recalled. Much of it will now be available for reassignment.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL2469631420071124

These things do happen you know:

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSEIC85598720071219

It's interesting to note that Netflix' former COO, Bill Henderson, was the United States Postmaster General from 1998 to 2001, so I have to think their relationship with the USPS is nothing but close.

Note: Henderson's role changed to strategic advisor in February 2007.

Including required prescribed medications, basic dental care, and EYEGLASSES.

But our government can surely afford to continue pumping BILLIONS into a war that was based on lies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN0343703420071203

God Bless the USA.

Being some random griefer who sends flying phallic objects across the Metaverse doesn't make you an expert in anything except flying genitals. So let's step through your insolent propaganda point by point.

1. "...they're [sex and money] the only reasons anyone uses it [Second Life], despite claims to the contrary by media-whorish Linden Labs."
   Perhaps you're not aware of the number of corporate entities using Second Life, not even for direct profit, but simply as a platform to deliver product information, such as Sun Microsystems, or the educational institutions using it as part of a prototype distance learning initiative, such as Bowling Green State University. Maybe you're not aware of the high-profile full-time businesses in Second Life, or the many, many articles reputable business publications have written noting the unique opportunities that exist in SL. There's much more than just sex and money. As in real life, there is entertainment, education, experimentation and economy. You know little about these because you spend all your time making the experience inconvenient for others.
2. "A bank called "Ginko" that recently went insolvent sent shockwaves through the economy lately."
   This was no surprise to anyone not stupid.
3. "As the Linden (the currency of Second Life) is not based on anything, Linden Labs simply dumps currency into the market whenever they feel like it."
   A quick look through the SL Economy metrics and blogs shows you're full of it. There is an actual regulation to the currency in SL, you're just ignorant of it.
4. [Your last statements]
   Again, your ignorance shines through. Do you do any investing in the real world? Do you know what happens when you invest 100k in prime real estate in California and an earthquake devastates it? Unless you took out insurance of some kind with an organization who certainly makes more than they will ever put out (on a sidenote, there are investement insurers in SL), you are SOL. Linden is careful to use the terminology "unit of trade" for the Linden dollar, because the Metaverse is not a seperate governmental body, has no legal jurisdiction in the real world, and wants to avoid the IRS putting their grubby mitts any further in. If you are foolish enough to make an unwise investment in SL, then, just as in real life, you learn that a fool and his money are soon parted.

In conclusion, please know what the hell you're talking about before you respond. And stop griefing the Metaverse, it's obnoxious.

What exactly is your definition of a bank, then? Ginko provided deposit and withdrawal of currency and issued loans. Everyone from Reuters to Philip Linden called it a bank. Regardless, any economy with such a capital system (the Lindens frequently mess with it without respect for economic consequences) will ultimately fail, content ban or not.

An Reuters report today makes for depressing reading. Here's the link. http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKN2922875820071129?sp=true Poll finds more Americans believe in devil than Darwin Read the article and weep. Expect more such Texas type-incidents in the future. What with the debate on immigration, growing xenophobia, and a siege mentality since 9/11, immigration of fresh, bright new minds into the US will start peaking in the next few years. After that, it's going to be downhill. In about 50 years, the US will be a land of troglodytes. Pity GWB didn't wait another 50 years -- he would have fit right in. On second thought, he seems to reflect the current zeitgeist. No offence to the millions of perfectly rational -- and reasonable -- Americans, including all of my dear friends. But they are hopelessly outnumbered. It's going to be a losing battle.

Funny you bring up Hormel and them being "cool" with spam, considering a five year legal battle just finished in the last week between Hormel and Spam Arrest.

Not sure if they're actually being cool about it now, but their actions in the past are biting them in the butt now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSN2856002320071128

U.S. to reduce Iraq troop levels by 5,000

"The redeployment without replacement reflects overall improved security within Iraq," military spokesman Rear Admiral Gregory Smith told a news conference.

[...]

Killings, kidnapping and suicide attacks had decreased in Diyala by over 68 percent since April, he said.

Sutherland said U.S. troops had particular success against Sunni Islamist al Qaeda.

He also credited much of the improvement in Diyala to more effective Iraqi police and army, and to around 3,000 local men who had joined neighborhood watch patrols.

Some 700 of the so-called "concerned local citizens" had since signed up to join the Iraqi police, he added.

Funny to see a post from a Swede.
I'm not sure if you missed the international news on your "reliable" Swedish reactors, but either we are misinformed, or you are not telling us the whole truth: http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKL0315745820070203