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Re:Get the facts!
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Get the facts!
People, please. I know it's hip to hate Scientology, but you should hit href="http://www.scientology.org">their href="http://www.scientology.org">site and give it a try before you judge. I urge each and every Slashdot reader to make a personal commitment to me that you will go to the href="http://www.scientology.org">site today. Information changes often, so you may have to hit refresh three or four hundred times. That site again: href="http://www.scientology.org">www.scientology
. org. Yours in Xenu. -
Neat quote from scientology.orgI found this quote on http://www.scientology.org/ and I thought was cute
March 15, 2005: Rev. Heber C. Jentzsch, President of the Church of Scientology International, said today that in a post 9/11 era of growing government secrecy, National Sunshine Week is a chance to reawaken public support for Freedom of Information as the lifeblood of democracy.
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Re:Hmm
Xenu will be displeased indeed.
You know, I just went to the Church of Scientology's website and took their "How 'toxic' are you?" quiz.
Funnily, no matter what your score is, they give you the same results.
The effects of drugs and toxic residues can send your whole life crashing. These substances put you in a condition which not only prohibits and destroys your physical health, but prevents any stable advancement in mental or spiritual well-being.
Like a fresh stream of crystal clear water, the Purification Program gets rid of the devastating effects of drugs and toxins so they no longer block your clear thinking and enthusiasm for life. This breakthrough discovery by L. Ron Hubbard has helped hundreds of thousands lead happier, more perceptive and aware lives.
And even if you gave No to everything, they still try to convince you.
You answered "YES" to 0 of the 10 questions.
You still could have a level of accumulated toxins in your body which can affect your ability to think clearly.
Followed by Blah blah blah on how polluted your body is.
Just change the count=0 in the querystring and you can see for yourselves =)
Sheesh, what a bunch of kooks. -
Re:Hmm
Xenu will be displeased indeed.
You know, I just went to the Church of Scientology's website and took their "How 'toxic' are you?" quiz.
Funnily, no matter what your score is, they give you the same results.
The effects of drugs and toxic residues can send your whole life crashing. These substances put you in a condition which not only prohibits and destroys your physical health, but prevents any stable advancement in mental or spiritual well-being.
Like a fresh stream of crystal clear water, the Purification Program gets rid of the devastating effects of drugs and toxins so they no longer block your clear thinking and enthusiasm for life. This breakthrough discovery by L. Ron Hubbard has helped hundreds of thousands lead happier, more perceptive and aware lives.
And even if you gave No to everything, they still try to convince you.
You answered "YES" to 0 of the 10 questions.
You still could have a level of accumulated toxins in your body which can affect your ability to think clearly.
Followed by Blah blah blah on how polluted your body is.
Just change the count=0 in the querystring and you can see for yourselves =)
Sheesh, what a bunch of kooks. -
Re:Hmm
Xenu will be displeased indeed.
You know, I just went to the Church of Scientology's website and took their "How 'toxic' are you?" quiz.
Funnily, no matter what your score is, they give you the same results.
The effects of drugs and toxic residues can send your whole life crashing. These substances put you in a condition which not only prohibits and destroys your physical health, but prevents any stable advancement in mental or spiritual well-being.
Like a fresh stream of crystal clear water, the Purification Program gets rid of the devastating effects of drugs and toxins so they no longer block your clear thinking and enthusiasm for life. This breakthrough discovery by L. Ron Hubbard has helped hundreds of thousands lead happier, more perceptive and aware lives.
And even if you gave No to everything, they still try to convince you.
You answered "YES" to 0 of the 10 questions.
You still could have a level of accumulated toxins in your body which can affect your ability to think clearly.
Followed by Blah blah blah on how polluted your body is.
Just change the count=0 in the querystring and you can see for yourselves =)
Sheesh, what a bunch of kooks. -
Re:Misinterpretation of the Establisment ClauseThe absense of a belief in god, is now a religion?
How about Scientology?
Or Wicca?
There is also Buddhism and Unitarianism
You limit the meaning of "establishing" a religion to mean sanctioning a named church, and then assert that atheism is established as the official religion...?
By not allowing open public statement of believe in a god, all the while allowing athiest to profess that there is no god, in effect establishes atheism as the "approved believe system".
I had a teacher lecture a class for an hour that religion was the cause of all man's sorrows, made statements such as "more people have died because of christianity than any other cause combined" a statement easily repudiated and was not chastised at all. While a child in that same school was warned against having a bible time during lunch hour. In fact the principle believed the statement was true until it was pointed out that property,jealousy,rage, disease, old age, wars in the name of Karl Marx (communism), Facism and Islam and automobile accidents easily outclassed the crusades.
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Re:Libertarians?Our brains are free to be whatever color we want.
I prefer clear.
Clear? Why, you're in luck! We can help you get "clear". Brain coloration is caused by fragments of an ancient space god who was blown up eons ago by H-bombs! These fragments make your brain un-clear. Please now enjoy taking a sham personality test that tells you you need to give us lots of money to remove the space god fragments. Thank you
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Re:This is extreme and misguided.If it doesn't take, maybe then we can discuss this mandate.
Precisely.
If we assume 99% of so-called adult sites voluntarily moved to a new domian, you have not changed the "problem" of children innocently stumbling across the remaining 1%. All it accomplishes is to focus 100 times the outrage and efforts on having the remaining 1% moved over at gunpoint.
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A MODEST PROPOSAL
I propose the creation of a .GOD top level domain. Under the .GOD domain we could have subdomains:
All it does is give parents a tool. Any parent who choose to are given the ability to easily firewall their computer to admit (for example) everything under the domain .budhhism.god .catholic.god .hindu.god .islam.god .jewish.god .scientology.god .taoist.god .zen.god .protestant.catholic.god while filtering out everything everything else. It gives each of us the freedom and ability to protect our children from violent or racist religions. It gives us the freedom and ability to protect our children from manipulative cults. It merely gives us a choice.
Nothing would be censored. No one would be required to filter anything. Such a system does not involve censorship at all.
Such a system could even result in increased freedom in religious speech because such speech could be made under the .GOD domain free from attack or oppression.
Such a system already exists under .ORG on a voluntary basis:
buddhism.org
catholic.org
hindu.org
islam.org
jewish.org
scientology.org
taoist.org
zen.org
I merely propose to correct the failure of an existing voluntary system. A most modest proposal indeed.
All that need be done is provide suitable enforcement to bring the remaining rouge sites into compliance with the existing system. Anyone caught quoting the Quran anywhere under the .christian.god domain would be thrown in prison for 5 years. Naturally the same penaly would apply to anyone caught quoting the Bible or the Torah anywhere under .islam.god. Anyone caught questioning the existance of god anywhere would be imprisioned, except perhaps within an .atheist.god domain (if they even want one).
Actually it would be a punnishable offence to post religious speech ANYWHERE on the open and public internet where an innocent child could be accidentally currupted by teachings contrary to their parents wishes.
Determining what constitutes "religious content" would be no more difficult than determining what constitutes "adult content".
I thank you for your time. God bless the children.
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Re:In related news...
Why would he do that? It's a dangerous cult
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Scientology Google Bomb
Dangerous Cult
Please spread this -
CO$ Googlebomb
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LETS'S GOOGLE BOMB THE SCIENTOLOGISTS
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Google bomb for XENU!
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Okay, I give up
I give up. I can't tell the litigious bastards without a scorecard anymore.
Okay, someone clue me in. Which litigious bastards are we supposed to be angry at now?
These litigious bastards
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these other litigious bastards...
now these litigious bastards ...
or perhaps (and oldie but a goodie) these litigious bastardsMan, that's going to be an awful lot of HREFs to compile in my posts to talk about anybody on Slashdot anymore.
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Re:Unregulated Domain Registrars are worse
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Re:What a royal pussy!
Actually, I've been a Scientologist for two decades and all I've gotten out of it is great family values, a kid in an Honors program, a great career, and a happy marriage. Scientology is not what you read on the Net, especially from biased hate-sites. Get a clue.
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Re:Change your thesis - Decode the encryption.
That isn't any sort of encrypted text. It is simply a (pathetic) attempt of evading filters...
You insensitive clod!
You've ruined the poor boy's dream!
Just think of the hours of fun he could have had "cracking" the "code".
Just think of the elaborate code -- and equally elaborate conspiracy behind it -- he might have created in a desperate obsession to make his data fit his theory!
It could have been a new formularization to rival the Illuminati, Ancient Astronauts, secret codes in the Bible, or some other tortuous, contrived theory! Why, he might even have constructed the ultimate conspirarcy theory, a religion!
But no! You had to cruelly disillusion him. And rob us of the fruit(iness) of his labors.
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What if:What if:
a) Xenu's Link Sleuth is a Windows program that checks broken links
b) Xenu is an excellent worldwide free product written by Tilman Hausherr
c) Tilman fights Scientology
d) Verisign is controlled by Scientology (can't prove it, so)
e) Verisign lauch Sitefinder
f) Xenu.exe program is almost unusableMy two cents.
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Only a power plant?
Bah. 'Tis nothing. I can show you a company, a government and a religion all powered by nutjobs. Just for starters.
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Re:Dangit....
Ooops, non-fiction (above) should read fiction, sorry!
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Dangers of private sector intelligence gathering.
Since the 1960's, the intelligence community> has used private corporate contractors, such as Wackenhut, The Curry Company, Scientologythe Music Corporation of America (The Curry Company's parent corporation), and the Mafia to gather information and diseminate disinformation. The changing nature of the information economy, due to the internet and Free Software, threatens the quite lucrative monopoly on information and populace control (hence the recent activities of the RIAA and the MPAA).
It seems to me that the Intelligence Community and the private contractors, who have seen thier profits dwindle since the end of the cold war, seek more to control IT in order to both increase thier ability to monitor the daily lives of private citizens, and to limit the access to information that may inform us about thier covert activities.
The concern of the CIA over technology is not one of information gathering, but one of information, and populace, control. -
$CO and CO$
Considering that SCO seems to be relying on the L. Ron Hubbard theory of public relations ("always attack, never defend"), that it relies on waves of lawsuits for survival, and that other posters have pointed out what a huge foot bullet this statement is, I suspect SCO has closer ties to another cult.
So... does that make Unix an anagram for an alien locked in a volcano somewhere? -
Just plain nauseating...
This is a sickening PR fluff piece. It's like reading $cientology "literature"... filled with "Thanks to the modularity of the NT kernel"...
I'll probably lose some karma for this, but it's all praise and no objectivity!
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Re:Well, no kidding...
You decide for yourself. [ALL Capitals changed to lowercase letters to escape the lameness filter. Interesting that a $cientology page would be stopped by
/.'s lameness filter, don't you?]
http://www.scientology.org/scnnews/scn_new.htm
"kirstie alley opens church of scientology mission in wichita"
"travolta fever"
"faith in scientology keeps him going"
"on the record: isaac hayes"
"bart simpson's voice credits her recent career success to scientology"
"straight, no chaser"
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Re:screenshots?
I certainly hope you realize that those are all screenshots of ReactOS running under Bochs running under Windows XP. Only the second image shows off the ReactOS GUI, which seems to be a WINE derivative.
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Alien Manipulation?
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Geek Cruise.. What??
I know that here on Slashdot we all like to pile on the flaming when it comes to the Church of Scientology, but doesn't anyone care about the "Church" and its actions when they sponsor something like the Geek Cruise? Is this another case where Slashdotters are willing to look the other way because they are basically being bribed off? How many times do we see this with the RIAA/MPAA-love/hate relationship on this message board?
Here's the scoop. Geek Cruises Inc. is operated by Neil Bauman who is a OT6-level Scientologist. Not to mention that he has deep contacts with anti-semite Bobby Fischer.
The geek cruise format, from the time of leaving port is identical to that of the Freewinds OT5 training. The early seminars and late "social activities" are designed to loosen your mind from its pinnings, allowing external suggestion to become much easier.
This isn't done to "brainwash you into loving Linux", that's already done and there's no need to be redundant. However, the point of the cruise is to open your mind to the possibility of joining their other cruises like Mindscape: Clear your mind in Alaska and Celebrity Slam (this year featuring Nicholas Cage). These other cruises are specifically geared towards getting people hooked into Scientology. For whatever reason, it works a hell of a lot better than the weirdo movie they like to show to "IQ test takers" at their normal temples.
It's because the company Geek Cruises Inc does so many nice things for the geek community and provides really interesting cruises that Scientology likes it as a means of recruiting so much. Don't be fooled, please. If you are interested in Scientology, please visit their website and read up about it. Then visit Operation Clamback and read up about the things they don't want you to know.
Scientology is one of the most devious "religions" around. Don't be sucked in by promises of meeting geek celebrities or viewing beautiful scenery and stopping at exotic ports of call. It is all a scam. You may get what you pay for, but you will get much more that you simply don't want. -
Need more sponsors?
How about these guys?
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Do we really need ...
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Good scifiBut today we can no longer easily predict what the future holds. Science changes things too quickly--so quickly that we can only say with confidence that we cannot say what the future will be like.
Science fiction writers have devised a variety of means to cope with this threat to their livelihood.Science fiction has _never_ been about "this is what the future will be like!". Well, some of the crappy stuff is. The best science fiction is all about what-if. Good science fiction places characters in strange circumstances that may or may not bear any relation to a plausible future for humanity. The fun is in seeing how humans (or aliens for that matter) would deal with these circumstances. What-if there was an alien loose on your ship with acid for blood and lightning quick reflexes? What-if a colony of nanobots became self-aware? What-if we found the sun was inhabited with creatures who were slowing down the fusion processes at the center? The plausibility of these scenarios _actually happening_ is slim to none. But that has nothing to do with whether or not this is good science fiction. For me personally, if the story is based on hard science, then thats when I stop caring about the plausibility of the story.
Any science fiction writer who sees himself as a prophet for the future needs to find a new line of work, like say, I don't know, start a cult for instance.
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do the UFOs look like DC10s?
Are there many Scientologists there? It could be that Xenu is actualy imprisioned in Scotland, and the UFOs are just the Loyal Officers stopping by to check up on him.
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Re:first jesus h. christ post
Jesus was a scientologist. Check out our website for more details. We can help YOU become a stable, happy man.
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Hypothetical Situation
Let's say you're a scientist. You can five of your prestigious scientist buddies go out on a camping trip and witness a strange flying object doing crazy aerobatics that defy the laws of physics. Who exactly do you tell?
The trouble with all this stuff is that somewhat fringe ideas that might be worthy of further study (what if there are really alien visitors?) are lumped together with complete idiocy.
I've got a strong engineering background, and enough college physics to understand the basics of relativity, but I question some beliefs of the scientific establishment. The sad fact is that there are likely a lot of scientists who really would like to take a serious, open-minded look at the UFO phenomenon, but the only way to examine it and keep the respect of one's peers is the weather-balloons-full-of-swamp-gas approach.
At the moment, modern science isn't capable of giving serious attention to things like the possibility of extraterrestrial visitors. Why should it be trusted to be the final word? -
Re:To take his rightful place....
You guys have Scientology all wrong... its not that bad really. Check out our website for more information. Theres a good personality test on there that will show you how we can help you.
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America's Al Qaida
if you read the story about google bombing last week you will realise that your criticism is more effective if you use links rather than plaintext.
Slashdot, Hows about an easier form. There has got to be a easier/better way to do it than typing in raw tags. the form even ignores me if i put in nicely formed line breaks like <br /> or use both opening and closing paragraph tags
any way here are the links
blockquoting:Here is an article about their interference at ground zero.
http://cisar.org/010919a.htmThey also have been posing as mental health professionals:
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/02/08/Worldandnation/S cientology_reaches_o.shtmlor from their OWN MOUTHS here
http://www.scientology.org/message/Scientology-vol unteer-ministers.htmAnd a link to the coverage of this on Kuro5hin.org
Sceintology
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/3/21/8503/377 59
Dainetics deliberate typos for google users who cant spellRemember this watershed event for Slashdot about Scientology Remember these:
Slashdot and Scientology http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/17677.html
http://slashdot.org/yro/01/05/17/0238223.shtml
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42486,00 .html
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Re:What's with scientology?http://www.scientology.org/world/worldeng/corp/cr
e ed.htm
"We of the Church believe: That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others"
That's their public display-case Creed. Their real, secret creed is that anyone who criticizes them is "Fair Game."
"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than win.
"The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." L. Ron Hubbard, the Manual of Justice
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Re:Not as bad as all that
Right, so if in every post I make to Slashdot I linked to Scientology Home Page or Bunch of Nutcases. Then those search strings could potentially rise higher up since they are links coming from an 'important site' like Slashdot. It's really an interesting idea if you have an agenda to push.
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Some religion based on fiction and other lies...
Didn't Al Bundy do a similar thing when he started the "church of No, Ma'am"?
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Re:Extra information from the Ministry of Truth
Put down your crack pipe and just think for a moment. The end result of implementing your suggested plan will be a lowest common denominator system where we'll end up with most everything being censored: most everything offends someone. What about kids who have religious nutballs for parents? Will they have to suffer because of the idiocy of their parental units? Censorship is a Very Bad Thing. Building a tool for censorship into a ubiquitous device such as a Tee Vee is a Very Very Bad Thing.
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Re:This is the end for slashdotHey if anyone wants to help drain the resources of the church of scientology "For a free information pack on Scientology" (and a few hundred of your friends in morocco).
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Re:Illegal in Germany
Scientoloy is not "illegal" in Germany and being a member of the cult does not make you an underground dissident.
But unlike the US, where it has been granted the status of a "religion" (and it is believed that this was done to get tax-exempt status), it is considered an unethical business here that is designed to leech money from its members.
If you ever read Scieno material, you will note that they will point out again and again that they have been granted this status of a religion in the US and try to use this as an external proof of trust into their practices.
It is true, though, that you will not be hired as a German government official if you are a member of Scientology. Since most German schools are funded by the state, this includes teachers.
The German view on Scientology has the organization running scared and spewing hatred towards the German government, often comparing today's treatment of Scientologists with the way Nazi Germany treated the jews. Internal documents reveal that this is done because they know that this is an easy button to press.
Strangely enough, the US government often just copies & pastes Scientologists' allegations against Germany in their yearly human rights report.
Look at some official reactions about these allegations.
The Scientology in Germany FAQ is an interesting read, too, as it covers many of the standard allegations used by the cult.
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It could happen here.
However, we have no control over what a GPL++ might happen to say. What if RMS sells out (yeah, sure)? What happens after he dies? What happens if someone else takes over the FSF?
That's an interesting topic. Stallman, of course, would never sell out. Monomaniacs rarely reverse their positions without extensive treatment and lots of maintenance pharmaceuticals. But the FSF could be taken over in a heartbeat. One good lawsuit loss and it would be bankrupt, with its assets attached by the victor to pay the judgement. Don't laugh, that's how the Church of Scientology became the proprietor of the Cult Awareness Network. CAN became a pro-cult website that attacked its former anti-cult stance.
The FSF advocates authors assigning their copyrights to it, in part because there's some reason to believe that the GPL might not be valid without the assignment, and in part because it allows the FSF to file suit for copyright infringement when someone violates the GPL. But that also gives the FSF assets that could be attached.
Wouldn't it just suck if Microsoft or Sun suddenly owned the copyrights to large volumes of supposedly-free software?
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Re:I am in the Church Of Scientology
Well, I tried to defend my position in a reasonable manner, despite the out right bigotry and name calling from people who are supposed to be educated and intelligent. I am not a shill, I am just someone contributing my view.
And I don't believe you, nonetheless, especially since you are posting as an Anonymous. Anonymous trolls defending CoS but not coming up with details when asked for it have been a standard technique on alt.religion.scientology.
Anyone reading Scientology's documents and documented statements by CoS officials will see that what you said contradicts Scientology's official standpoint.
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Earthlink and Privacy
Quoted from Arnie Lerma's website:
DECLARATION OF ROBERT J. CIPRIANO
I, Robert J. Cipriano, hereby declare and state as follows:
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.]38. I was befriended the first day of my employment at Earthlink by a Mr. Michael Hamra, another sales associate. I quickly started a friendship with Mr. Hamra and spent countless hours talking about various things including how Earthlink started with investments, by Kirstie Alley, Tom Cruise, John Travolta and other wealthy Scientologists, into Sky Dayton's idea of an internet service provider. Mr. Hamra told me how Sky Dayton had a coffee shop before starting Earthlink and that he, because of being a Scientologist and his friendships with celebrity Scientologists, he was able to build a multi-million dollar company that could, "Watch over the entire internet from within the internet."
39. Additionally, Mr. Hamra told me he was one of the founding group of Scientologist who ran Earthlink out of a Glendale one room office where he made sales calls from a bathroom in the office. Mr. Hamra said, "The Church of Scientology now had a database of information on every subscriber which included names, credit card info., credit reports, telephone info., computer info., who had referred them to Earthlink and who were their previous ISP providers." Mr. Hamra told me about the "other Earthlink building" which was next door on New York Avenue in Pasadena. Mr. Hamra told me that the other building was high security and is where Earthlink and the Church of Scientology did all the monitoring of the internet. Mr. Hamra was always very interested in my testimony in Berry v. Cipriano. It became clear to me that he was reporting what I was saying to other in Scientology.
40. I received many incoming sales calls while at Earthlink from individuals who would ask, "Are you a bunch of Scientologists?" We were trained to never admit that we were involved with the Church Of Scientology.
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There is also an article on this in the Phoenix New Times.
Incidentally Earthlink is now owned by Mindspring, so the same conditions may not currently prevail. Cipriano is also not the best source, as he is virtually a pathological liar, but he did indeed work for Earthlink, and whatever else Cipriano may have said, it's disturbing a Scientology lawyer could duke people into a job there at will.
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Slack vs. Scientology!I've never been much of a religious guy, but recently I've an inkling for some jihad. Specifically, I would pay great sums of money to see the Church of the SubGenius battle the Church of Scientology! It would be an awesome apocalypse.
And when I said battle, I meant it. My money's on the Slackers--the followers of Bob. First of all Bob is just more powerful than Xenu (look at the pipe; does Xenu have a pipe?). Second, take a look at last year's apocalypse! Find me a Scientologist who can win this--the Church of the SubGenius have been practicing since X-Day 1996.
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Why you should boycott this movieFor those of you who don't know, L Ron Hubbard, the guy who wrote the novel Battlefield Earth, is the founder of the cult Scientology. This cult is incredibally destructive, and relies on brainwashing, psuedopsychology, fake science, and so on to induct more and more members (especially rich ones) to give them shitloads of money. John Travolta is a Scientologist, and this film is heavily backed by the Scientology "Church." For more info on Scientology, see
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Re:Say it ain't so?!?!?!Oh My God, a science fiction writer with nutty political opinions? Whatever next?
How about a science fiction writer with nutty religious opinions?
Oh wait...that's already been done.
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This VERY real!
The truth is we HAVE been born into bondage.
This IS a prison for our minds.
This IS the world that has been pulled over our
eyes to keep us from seeing the truth. We are Slaves unto this world. The time is at hand... You look like a man that accepts what you see
because any moment now you are expecting to Wake Up!!!