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Re: States can get serious
Which federal laws are states required to enforce?
None.
Heck, which federal laws are state law enforcement allowed to enforce? (I'll give you a hint: none).
The rate of deportations during the Obama administration skyrocketed.
You, too?
Obama ended a whole lot of Bush administration policies that allowed undocumented workers to work in the US.
Such as? And what about those DREAMers that Obama created out of thin air?
The only new thing Trump is doing on the border is 1) child abuse
*snort* You mean he ended catch-and-release by traffickers using kids as pawns, but caved in due to media outrage.
2) illegally arresting people who attempt to claim asylum.
*snort* You mean arresting people who entered the country illegally, just like Obama did (see linked Snopes article).
Why'd Obama do this? He believed that a "get tough" policy would help the Republicans work with him to bring a sane immigration policy that put American interest first.
Oh, so Obama wanted to end chain migration, get tough on deportation, and enact a merit-based immigration policy? Did Obama want federally mandated e-verify nation-wide? How many Muslims immigrated to the United States under Obama?
The fact that you know zero of these facts demonstrates just how willing the Republicans are to work with Democrats to do so.
*snort* Democrats are the party of illegal immigrants. And whatever you think of Obama, he is no longer in office, and Democrats today have absolutely caved to open borders and don't give a rats ass about putting American interests first.
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Re: States can get serious
You've ignored remedial civics - immigration is a federal issues, not a state issue. States no more have to worry about immigration than the FBI needs to worry about pet or noise ordinances in L.A.
You're engaging in pedantry. States and local governments routinely cooperate with federal officials on law enforcement issues. The Democrats have gone out of their way to not cooperate on illegal immigration.
And anyone who participates can count on making their own ICE Is videos in short order, proving my point.
All you've proved is that you can make a non-sequitur while linking to propaganda videos from friends-of-Democrats. *golf clap*
You haven't addressed that Democrats show no inclination of enforcing immigration laws -- quite the opposite. Yet somehow you think illegals will be in grave danger of voting when it's a local issue, not a federal one. Of course the Democrats blocked all efforts by Trump's administration to verify the integrity of the elections, and they are doing the same for a US citizenship question on the census.
You need to pull your head out of the wingnutosphere.
You need to look in the mirror and address the world as it is today.
Obama deported more immigrants than all previous presidents combined
False. Also, it was Obama who unconstitutionally created the "DREAM"ers.
, and the Clintons were for a border wall 20 years before it was cool.
Obama and Clinton used to be against gay marriage, too. A lot has changed in 10 years. The Dems have moved hard-left as they've won issue after issue. What's left for them? Transgender bathroom "rights"? "Islamophobia"? Pedophiles? They've ditched the American worker, and the only sustainable base they have left is immigrants, who reliably vote Democrat.
And remind us again who granted amnesty to millions of immigrants in the 80's?
Remind me again how that was supposed to be a one-time thing, in exchange for fixing the border? Oh look, here we are again. And which party is fighting for MOAR immigrants, and fighting against a policy of limited immigration based on merit?
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Re:Rapid, responsive, and reliable space launch
Snopes says false. Now fuck off, shill.
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Re: Practicing for Nation-wide Implementation
Well, then you must believe that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea to you) is really a democracy, because its in its name.
The Nazi Party had "Socialist" in its name essentially for the same reason that "Democratic" is in the name of North Korea -- it was a popular marketing term, regardless of validity.
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Re:of the people, by the people
Obama signed an executive order allowing for the killing of protected eagles, or for holding up nuclear power expansion.
You are a bit of an alarmist.
Homelessness has always been a problem, but nothing is said about it when there is a Democrat in the White House.
Would you support allowing the market to build affordable housing by restoring the rights of developers to build more densely than surrounding properties, or are you just playing games here?
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Re:Who watches the watchmen?
You're rabid. The leftist mainstream media has been pumping out "news" stories with an anti-Trump agenda ever since he won the primaries. Some of it is so obviously slanted and shallow that it's quite laughable, like the Japan fish-feeding episode.
But the biggest sins of the leftist mainstream media is that they ignore stories that don't fit the narrative. That's why a lefty professor from a liberal college had to go on Fox News to share his story about Evergreen.
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Re: God damnit AT&T.
You were doing so well until the nonsense about Nazis. I really don't get the American ignorance about Socialism, I really don't.
Educate yourself:
https://www.indy100.com/articl...
https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
http://www.newsweek.com/nazis-...It's really not that hard.
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Re:I know I shouldn't feed the trolls
But this has been debunked 8 ways from Sunday.
Sadly, Snopes has acquired a leftist bias when it comes to political subjects. After they went "pro" a few years back and Mikkelson ceded most of the editing to LaCapria (a self-avowed leftist*) and her ilk, they have been tilting further and further to the left. At best the question of Clinton's uranium deal should be listed as "unproven".
*LaCapria is self-described as "left-leaning": http://www.inquisitr.com/402558/scandal-envy-behind-petraeus-drama-allegations-obama-ignored-benghazi/
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I know I shouldn't feed the trolls
But this has been debunked 8 ways from Sunday.
Funny thing is all these conspiracy theories and bad press for Hillary helped get us Trump. And I"ll say one thing about Trump, he doesn't have any conspiracy theories to speak of. His administration is so openly corrupt what would be the point? He's like Dick Cheney times a million. When you tell people how corrupt he is they don't believe you because if anyone was that openly corrupt somebody, somewhere would do _something_. Right? -
Re:racists gonna race
You gave examples of racism that are condemned by the Republican party and any significant conservative leader and most of the population.
I am guessing that you are referring to the Patrick Little who ran for senate in California as a Republican and got 18% approval of likely voters. I don't know the poll and whether the people that were polled were aware of his anti-semitic views and who these people are. I imagine you don't either. Here is a link about it https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch... In the link it cites the following statement from the California Republican spokesman Matt Fleming:
Mr. Little has never been an active member of our party. I do not know Mr. Little and I am not familiar with his positions. But in the strongest terms possible, we condemn anti-semitism and any other form of religious bigotry, just as we do with racism, sexism or anything else that can be construed as a hateful point of view.
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Incorrect
Why would Trump, who has no problems saying fuck you to anyone or anything, put off leaving the Paris Agreements until the agreed upon date if he didn't have to? I'm pretty sure he's got a few legal experts around him to help with stuff like that.
We are in the treaty. So I don't have to type everything out for you here is this https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
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Except it did
Except it did. Here's why (since I'm lazy and don't want to type it out)
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It sort of did
It sort of did. Rather than type it all out here's a link that describes the situation well https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
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Urban myth [Re:Soyuz]
NASA spent ~1,000,000$ on nitrogen pressurized pens so astronauts could write in space. Russia used pencils
Urban legend.
Yep. Check the snopes site here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
Or the Space Review site here: http://www.thespacereview.com/...
which ends with the conclusion "The Million Dollar Space Pen Myth is just that, a myth. The pens never cost a lot of money and were not developed by wasteful bureaucrats or overactive NASA engineers. The real story of the Space Pen is less interesting than the myth, but in many ways more inspiring. It is not a story of NASA bureaucrats versus simplistic Russians, but a story of a clever capitalist who built a superior product and conducted some innovative marketing. That story, however, is a little harder to sell to a public that believes what it wants to believe."
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Re:Wife
https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/politics/clinton-town-hall-what-to-watch/
On this problem particularly, Clinton later said, "We have so to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't mean the child gets to stay. So, we don't want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
Did the Obama Administration Place Immigrant Children With Human Traffickers?
A congressional report and criminal indictment resulted from a 2014 incident in which multiple immigrant children were handed off to a human trafficking ring.True.
and so on...
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Re:Manufactured outrage
To rebut the tyrant's advocate, I'll present the following:
No, family separation and minor detention is not required by law.
In practice, the children can be separated indefinitely (possibly permanently), since there is poor tracking of the parents and minors, with multiple poorly communicating government agencies involved. At least one case has had a mother deported separately from her son. Can you say with any certainty that a parent deported separately to Guatemala will be reunited with a child that was still detained by the US federal government within 20 days?
To pile injury upon injury, Border Patrol is making it difficult for asylum seekers to declare themselves in ports, turning them away from legal entry. (I'm not 100% on the intercept as a source, here is their story and description of the practice). As an unfliching proponent of adherence to the law, an honest appraisal of this behavior by the border control arms of the US government may induce discomfort or cognitive dissonance, if a capability for dissonance remains present.
Breitbart is a proponent of this sort of behavior, and them promoting a line of propaganda to reinforce denial of the true consequences of their goals is unfortunately expected. Denial is a key component of atrocity. Holocaust denial is not an isolated phenomena, denial goes hand and hand with ethnic cleansing and genocidal movements in general. It may seem hyperbolic to discuss this particular issue using such terminology, but if you read through the warning signs and look to the dehumanizing rhetoric being used now, such as Trump saying these migrants are trying to "infest" us, you might understand why many, myself included, are starting to freak out. -
Re:Manufactured outrage
To rebut the tyrant's advocate, I'll present the following:
No, family separation and minor detention is not required by law.
In practice, the children can be separated indefinitely (possibly permanently), since there is poor tracking of the parents and minors, with multiple poorly communicating government agencies involved. At least one case has had a mother deported separately from her son. Can you say with any certainty that a parent deported separately to Guatemala will be reunited with a child that was still detained by the US federal government within 20 days?
To pile injury upon injury, Border Patrol is making it difficult for asylum seekers to declare themselves in ports, turning them away from legal entry. (I'm not 100% on the intercept as a source, here is their story and description of the practice). As an unfliching proponent of adherence to the law, an honest appraisal of this behavior by the border control arms of the US government may induce discomfort or cognitive dissonance, if a capability for dissonance remains present.
Breitbart is a proponent of this sort of behavior, and them promoting a line of propaganda to reinforce denial of the true consequences of their goals is unfortunately expected. Denial is a key component of atrocity. Holocaust denial is not an isolated phenomena, denial goes hand and hand with ethnic cleansing and genocidal movements in general. It may seem hyperbolic to discuss this particular issue using such terminology, but if you read through the warning signs and look to the dehumanizing rhetoric being used now, such as Trump saying these migrants are trying to "infest" us, you might understand why many, myself included, are starting to freak out. -
Re:This is a serious suggestion
While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.
"". In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"
For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.
Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
"And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication."
While, much like drinking, there are those who will do truely stupid things while high pot is far safer than every day activities like sober driving or manual labor professions.
While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.
I'm sorry, what scare tactics did I refer to? I have not referred to any well publicized and likely misleading sources used by the war on drugs - I have not referenced the usual claims of lowering IQ or as a gateway drug even though it is reported in a peer reviewed journal. I specfically avoided such sources because I knew someone would attempt to discredit them. What I have given you is clinical experience (19 years now) of issues that I have encountered with actual patients that I have treated. I have had people so strung out on drugs that they failed to recognize a decline in their health that made their condition worse. I have stuporous individuals who have serious medical derangements that we could not determine from their history (they weren't able to talk or were exhibiting paranoia) or from physical exam (they were so out of it I couldn't get they to react to any exam or they refused to cooperate with the exam) Related reference here. It is still illegal to drive after using marijuana in Colorado and California.
In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"
For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.
Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
While an increasing number of states are allowing "medical marijuana", there are very few registered patients in most states (
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Re:This is a serious suggestion
While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.
"". In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"
For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.
Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
"And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication."
While, much like drinking, there are those who will do truely stupid things while high pot is far safer than every day activities like sober driving or manual labor professions.
While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.
I'm sorry, what scare tactics did I refer to? I have not referred to any well publicized and likely misleading sources used by the war on drugs - I have not referenced the usual claims of lowering IQ or as a gateway drug even though it is reported in a peer reviewed journal. I specfically avoided such sources because I knew someone would attempt to discredit them. What I have given you is clinical experience (19 years now) of issues that I have encountered with actual patients that I have treated. I have had people so strung out on drugs that they failed to recognize a decline in their health that made their condition worse. I have stuporous individuals who have serious medical derangements that we could not determine from their history (they weren't able to talk or were exhibiting paranoia) or from physical exam (they were so out of it I couldn't get they to react to any exam or they refused to cooperate with the exam) Related reference here. It is still illegal to drive after using marijuana in Colorado and California.
In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"
For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.
Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
While an increasing number of states are allowing "medical marijuana", there are very few registered patients in most states (
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Re:This Jackoff
Except this all started under Obama.
No, it didn't. It started with Trump's "zero tolerance" policy created early last month.
You may be confusing what's happening now with what happened when large groups of unaccompanied minors were presenting at the border in 2014. There were no children who were forcibly separated from their parents and put into concentration camps during the Obama administration.
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Re:This is a serious suggestion
While you are certainly correct that pot is incredibly unlikely to be helpful here you veer into some pretty heavy scare tactics that dont have a lot of truth to them.
"". In addition, buying drug on the street is very dangerous because you do not know exactly what you are buying (a pharmacology professor of mine proved this in the 80s) - even marijuana can be laced with even more dangerous substances [americanad...enters.org]"
For starters, medical pot is legal in more states than not so why are we assuming the purchase would be illegal? After that, a small amount of critical thinking quickly brings up the question, why would some one selling weed spend money lacing their product and not tell the person buying? Your own link even states there's no data on the subject.
Here's a nice snopes link debunking the latest panic of fentynal laced weed: https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
"And stop claiming that marijuana is harmless. I see too many people land in our ED as a result of this type of self-medication."
While, much like drinking, there are those who will do truely stupid things while high pot is far safer than every day activities like sober driving or manual labor professions.
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Re:Why fly the flags of the shitholes they left?
Which is why Trump received the Ellis Island Award, alongside fellow winners Rosa Parks and Muhamad Ali, in recognition of his outstanding example of patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity. But hey, since it was from the "wrong party", he must now be cast a racist. Because the Left is so tolerant and diverse, right?
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Re:Half Truths are Still Lies
lol, he totally is. I mean, even ayn rand didn't believe in her own ideas when it came to herself. being part of the ayn rand cult means all that "no taking" stuff applies to everyone else when you take, that's because its important.
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Re: I've got 15 Mod Points
Just because you need a good mindfuck of facts to remind you that DIRT doesn't get a VOTE but people do....
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Re:The ultimate in Nerd Idocy
Trump
..., he will speak plainlyExcept, he does not. When he speeks the sentences are so split up and often mixes in lots of unrelated things, and has a (lack of) flow that makes it is really hard to follow. In fact this is the one thing that is easy to make parody of Donald Trump, to mimic his form of speaking. To parody the actual content of what he is say is on the other hand very hard because of the crazy things he say. For instance "My nuclear button is bigger than his" would be a natural thing to try to parody him on except he acutally manager to say that himself for real...
For an excample of how he does not speaks plainly, consider this:
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”
While this is probably a cherry-picked example of worst cases there is, it is not exceptional and far of his average.
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Re:Too much Fox News for you
The water restrictions you just linked further proves my point because California can't even afford to build new dams to support the migrant influx!
You're pretty gullible, you know? No, you probably don't.
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Re:I hope so. Net neutrality isn't.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
Mostly False, sucker.
The laws do not render it illegal for Californians to do laundry and take showers on the same day.
I may have been wrong, perhaps, you don't get your "facts" from Fox news, instead, it's Zero Hedge.
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Re:Liberals
I remind them that their favorite Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, was the most liberal public figure of his time.
The idea of whites being superior is a liberal position now? Sounds like something your conservative friends could support!
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Liar.
You are full of shit and you know it
I wish you lying assholes would stop repeating the same bullshit that you got from the lying motherfuckers on Fox News and Political Talk Radio.
It's scumbags like you who are ruining this country.
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Re:There are real issues [Re:Heil Hillary as manda
You do make an important observation, though: it is leftists that have been going around after WWII to make groundless accusations against others of being fascists and neo-Nazis. Every Republican president over the last couple of decades has been denounced as a "fascist", "Nazi", and/or "white supremacist" by the left. Every conservative commentator or intellectual has been denounced as such.
Actually, it's conservative commentators that have a problem with it. Perhaps not every single one, but enough, that you're just being a hypocrite and fraud, protesting your own crimes that you ascribe to others.
And then you one-up'd it: By going further.
Perhaps you can blame Democrats for it, you do tend to falsely accuse them of being responsible for everything you do.
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Re:There are real issues [Re:Heil Hillary as manda
Ethno-Nationalism is EXACTLY what Trump, Bannon, and the rest of the Repugnant KKKlan party espouse.
You got your parties mixed up: the party of the KKK is the Democrats. Hillary was best buddies with a former KKK member.
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Re:Meaningless
It's a non-issue.
That Consumer Reports test was flawed, because they tested pressure in the middle when the phones were clearly being bent at a particular point higher up.
It was a design flaw: "under a particular type of flexing, the phone is prone to bend mainly because a metal insert meant to reinforce instead spins in an axis too close to the critical point"
But that must be Fake News, since Snopes still cites the Consumer Reports test, right? https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
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Re: All politians have no respect for security
No but she did steal furniture twice on her way out of office.
Mostly false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
TL;DR version: The Clintons did keep gifts given to them while in office, some of which were furniture, and some of which turned out to be gifts given to "The White House". They had to return or pay for these gifts because while the gifts they received personally were theirs to keep, the gifts given to the White House were not. They settled the accounts by paying for some of the gifts and giving others to the National Park Service (who manages the White House).
Of course you probably believe the other, much bigger lies, about the Clintons, which Snopes has also debunked, so I'm sure you'll dismiss all their research as a coverup by a partisan web site.
I should mention that I don't like the Clintons. Not their politics or policies, not as people (from what I can see; I've never met them). And I never voted for either of them, nor would I. I just prefer facts to conspiracy theories.
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Re:so how do you prevent from scanning your plate
Could backfire:
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Re:Amazon's newspaper flames Trump for charging mo
Let me help you out with a piece of advice: google is fucking easy to use.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...
http://observer.com/2018/04/tr...
http://www.politifact.com/trut...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
https://angrybearblog.com/2018...
http://www.businessinsider.com...
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Re:I don't know what's worse
> I am convinced that Trump supporters will continue to support him,
> irrespective of what he does, as long as he enables their xenophobic
> and racist tendencies.“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
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Re:White Helmets funded by US State Dept.
If the white helmets are so great, why does no one in the liberated cities ever have anything good to say?
Why is there headquarters in the same building as ISIS?Keep up the lies. The people the white helmets rescue are very grateful because they know if it were Assad's army the people would be killed on the spot. Oh look, your lie about the white helmetsA being associate with terrorists is false. How odd.
Oh look, an article describing how Russia deliberately bombs these rescuers so they can't help the people being killed.
Tell us again who the terrorists are? The ones who are trying to help people lead a better life or those who deliberately target civilians and rescuers? Go home comrade, you're too drunk, and stupid, to come up with anything original.
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Re:Better ideaThere was actually an old check forging scheme which relied on this. The forger would alter the routing number on the check, then deposit it. The bank would note that it was a local check, and only put a 2-3 day hold on the deposited funds. The key was that checks were only considered bad if the issuing bank notified the deposit bank that it was bad (negative confirmation). So the fraud relied in preventing any such notification from being generated, which the depositing bank would take to mean the check was good, and release the funds to the depositor.
Although the check bore the name and address of the Chemical Bank in New York, the Federal Reserve data-processing system scanned only the magnetic-ink code on it, identified it as a Bank of America check, and routed it to Los Angeles. The check remained in transit for perhaps two days. At the end of that time, it was run through the computer mechanism at the Bank of America. The computer, instantly searching its memory for a Bank of America account number matching that of the magnetic-ink strip on the check, rejected the check, which then went into a clerical pool for manual handling. Since the printed logotype on the check clearly identified it as a check that belonged in the Chemical Bank in New York, the clerk handling the machine-rejected check sent it back to the Chemical Bank by mail, assuming that a simple routing error had been made. The check was then in transit for another two days. Back at the Chemical Bank, the check was put into the computerized sorting system for final clearance. But instead of that, it went into motion again: the Chemical Bank computing system passed it on to the Federal Reserve System, which routed it out to the Los Angeles bank again, which routinely sent it back to New York, and so on.
The fraud was uncovered only when checks issued by the depositor became so frayed from mechanical handling in the computer system that they could no longer be read automatically ⦠[b]y that time, according to an auditor who told me of the affair, the depositor had disappeared with more than $1 million in cash. -
Re:and yet...
I hate to defend Trump on anything, but why are we blaming or crediting him at all, when he didn't make the list? The list was the list of "countries or areas of concern" created by the legislature in 2015 and signed by president Obama years before Trump took office. It simply has nothing to do with him.
The "ban" wasn't bad because the country list made no sense, and it wasn't bad because it targeted Muslims. The ban was bad because it provided no due-process of law, and prevented people from re-entering the country when they already had travel visas and booked flights to return home to the US. Some people found out about the ban only when they landed and were turned away. It was stupidly written, and even his own cabinet admitted it.
P.S. I had to confirm that before daring to post it, so here are my sources:
http://www.politifact.com/wisc...
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Re: Scandal
The exact same company? Obama used Cambridge Analytica?
(Also this is a fairly reasonable analysis of the whole whataboutism thing that implies Obama's use of Facebook data willingly given up by participants knowing it would be used by the Obama campaign is in some way the exact same thing as CA's use of "surveys" which were apparently unconnected to politics to get people to give up their private data.
In the case of Cambridge Analytica, information was gathered from users and given to a third party under false pretenses. According to Facebook, University of Cambridge psychologist Aleksandr Kogan created a personality quiz which users could download in an app called âoethisisyourdigitallife.â Kogan presented the app as a tool that would be used for academic research â" but the work was paid for by Cambridge Analytica. Facebook users were not informed that their data (and that of their friends) would be deployed by a political firm hired by the Trump campaign for psychographic profiling in the upcoming election.
So can we quit it with the false equivalences?
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Re: Lower prices right?
Snopes seems to indicate that per the coinage act of 1965, coins are legal tender in this regard.
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Re:Seize the means of productionHitler was a committed Catholic, and not only not a socialist, but a determined Capitalist.
and LOATHED SocialismRichard Evans, in his magisterial three volume history of Nazi Germany, is quite clear on whether Hitler was a socialist: “it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth of, socialism.” (The Coming of the Third Reich, Evans, p. 173). Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them.
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Re: Anti-LGBT ??
Putting someone with anti-science beliefs in charge of a science agency is like putting the Klan in charge of your Martin Luther King day barbeque. It's just a shitty idea.
An even worse idea, putting Democrats and former KKK members in charge of civil rights and minority protection. Yet, that's exactly what the US has done, with the predictable result of keeping African Americans in chains. Now Democrats are trying to do to us LGBT people what they did to blacks, and jerks like you are cheering them on.
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Re:But...
They invented the phrase "white wash" from trying to hide the battle damage to the white house.
False:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/white-house-wash/The word "whitewash" dates back at least to the 1600s.
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Re:And hilarity ensues!!!!
the full on Rigging of the Primary
How? I read about a lot of bullshit problems with various state's implementations, handling of their primaries and caucuses, and outright lies like chair-throwing. Clinton, her campaign, and the DNC certainly have a lot to answer for (and as yet have largely not.) But I haven't read anything that gives evidence of "full-on" rigging. If you're talking about super-delegates, which are a really stupid thing, even without them Clinton still solidly won. We can argue about things like psychological effects and preferences, but I think we waste time on conspiracies.
And I say all of this as someone firmly in the "Bernie woulda won" camp (but it's just as pointless to waste time on such what-ifs, rather than focusing on fixing the problems that potentially stopped him from doing so.)
People only voted for her because (D) behind her name
I had lots of Democrat friends who made it clear why they voted for her; their positions weren't wrong, I felt that there were better reasons to vote for Sanders. You might recall the DNC primary race started with three "true" Democrats and one dark-horse, so in early voting it wasn't like people had to choose only between a Democrat and Democrat-alike. Even given three "(D)" options, people overwhelmingly chose Clinton amongst those three.
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Re:Not like they're missing out on much anyway
The "Irish slave" claim is really a myth. There were many Irish indentured servants but indentured servitude is not the same as slavery. Being an indentured servant often was not a good life, but there were very critical differences between being an indentured servant and a slave.
For example:
- Indentured servants were considered a full "person". Slaves were not.
- Indentured servants entered into a contract which required, typically in exchange for passage to the Colonies/US, them to provide services for a fixed period of time (often seven years). Being a slave was "for life".
- Indentured servants didn't pass their status on to their offspring. Slaves did.
- Many, perhaps most, indentured servants willingly entered in to the deal (albeit, maybe not completely aware of what they were getting into). Slaves did not.
- Indentured servants (and their offspring) were not the "property" of the person they were serving. Slaves were.
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Re:Have some actual information Ola not doing well
Fortunately, there's always someone willing to be the "President-For-LIfe", or "Der Fuhrer", or whatever.
That often doesn't solve the problem. It is often said of the Fascists in Italy, that "At least Mussolini made the trains run on time"
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Re: Sounds like a CYA distraction statement
Comparing it to cruise control is stupid. Cruise control maintains your speed extremely well and doesn't ever fail catastrophically.
Cruise control can fail catastrophically when driving on slippery roads (e.g., wet roads, icy/snowy roads). https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wild-when-wet/
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Re:what can be detected vs what has actually harme
There's ARSENIC naturally in apple seeds. Apple seeds get crushed along with the rest of an Apple in the presses used to make apple juice. Traces of arsenic therefore end up in apple juice.
You're thinking of cyanide, not arsenic.
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Re:Don't worry
No, they were not left wing. The used the term "Socialists" for political cover. But they fuckin hated left wing groups and political parties.
https://www.snopes.com/news/20...
The full name of Adolf Hitlerâ(TM)s Nazi Party, the political movement that brought him to power and supplied the infrastructure of the fascist dictatorship over which he would preside, was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the National Socialist German Workersâ(TM) Party. According to historians, the complicated moniker reveals more about the image the party wanted to project and the constituency it aimed to build than it did about the Nazisâ(TM) true political goals, which were building a state based on racial superiority and brute-force governance.
Given that Nazism is traditionally held to be an extreme right-wing ideology, the partyâ(TM)s conspicuous use of the term âoesocialistâ â" which refers to a political system normally plotted on the far-left end of the ideological spectrum â" has long been a source of confusion, not to mention heated debate among partisans seeking to distance themselves from the genocidal taint of Nazi Germany.
Richard J. Evans: âIt Would Be Wrong to See Nazism as a Form of, or an Outgrowth From, Socialismâ(TM)
Despite having declared, at various times, âoeI am a socialist,â âoeWe are socialists,â and similar avowals, on a personal level Hitler displayed little regard for the actual tenets of socialism, or, for that matter, socialists themselves. This excerpt from a speech Hitler gave in 1922 (quoted in William L. Shirerâ(TM)s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, published in 1960) is indicative:
Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of the nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, âoeDeutschland ueber Alles,â to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land â" that man is a Socialist.
And this is what came out of Adolf Hitlerâ(TM)s mouth on another occasion when a comrade riled him by harping on socialism (as reported by Henry A. Turner, author of German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler, published in 1985):
Socialism! What does socialism really mean? If people have something to eat and their pleasures, then they have their socialism.
In his 2010 book Hitler: A Biography, British historian Ian Kershaw wrote that despite putting the interests of the state above those of capitalism, he did so for reasons of nationalism and was never a true socialist by any common definition of the term:
The proof was in the pudding. Not long after acquiring the reins of power, the Nazis banned the Social Democratic Party and sent its leaders and other leftists identified as threats to the National Socialist program to concentration camps. According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia:
...Despite continuing certain Weimar-era social welfare programs, the Nazis proceeded to restrict their availability to âoeracially worthyâ (non-Jewish) beneficiaries.
In terms of labor, worker strikes were outlawed.
Trade unions were replaced by the party-controlled German Labor Front, primarily tasked with increasing productivity, not protecting workers.
In lieu of the socialist ideal of an egalitarian, worker-run state, the National Socialists erected a party-run police state whose governing structure was anti-democratic, rigidly hierarchical, and militaristic in nature. As to the redistribution of wealth, the socialist ideal âoeFrom each according to his ability, to each according to his needâ was rejected in favor of a credo more on the order of âoeTake everything that belongs to non-Aryans and keep it for the master race.â
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