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if they think that the use of racial slurs defines racism then they need a wakeup call

I made a spelling mistake. Your incorrect.

http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dict&freesearch=authored&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=4939&dict=CALD
http://www.yourdictionary.com/search?ydQ=authored&x=0&y=0&area=entries
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/authored (especially the bottom part)

Try getting out of your own area then. It will broaden your horizons.

Y'all is prominent in Oklahoma,Missouri,California,Maryland, Virginia, Texas, Louisiana(all states that I have lived in). In my travels, most of the south and southwest in the USA will let you experience the whole y'all extravaganza.

It's to the point that when I here something other than y'all, I take notice. South central Pennsylvania was the worst with you'uns instead of y'all for me.(as I type this I notice that Firefox's spell-checker does not flag y'all, but with you'uns I get the RED UNDERLINE!!! Oh No!..the dreaded Red Underline!)

Your use of the quote marks on the word 'word' suggests that you do not think that it is a word.
Try again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all Obligatory wiki link
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=A&key=yall*1+0 Cambridge's onlin dictionary
http://www.yourdictionary.com/y-all Random link from Google search for online dictionaries
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/y'all And last but not least, Merriam-Webster's online dictionary.

So like it or not, y'all need to get over the fact that the USA is a big country with diverse cultures and dialects...just like any other big country.

Take a trip up north from Virginia...oh, say about 4-5 states right along the same Atlantic coast and be amazed.
Y'all will see a bunch of stuff, you'uns will get to try a lot of different cuisine, youse guys will experience different cultures, and you all will maybe learn something...maybe even some tolerance for those not just like you guys.

However, will users follow microsoft's versions, or the free forked versions? That's the interesting question that only time will tell.

formerly http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/f/f0265300.html being the operational word in that definition. This mythical notion is similar to the one my German students believe in "Oxford English". I usually tell them it is particular to Hobbiton-on-the-Rye. Perhaps this series of exchanges could come to a reasonable closure if you simply visited London or listened to some of the Beeb's output. Only people in "Monty Python" sketches speak BBC English. Real English (you appreciate that I am not English?) people speak a variety of different dialects. Similar in many ways (but of course different) to the Americans - Californians even.

BBC English.

Yes. That's called an undervote and is counted as such because you did not make an official selection for one of the races. Generally, if you opt to write in a candidate, what election officials will do is first set your ballot aside. Then they will count all the other votes. If, after tallying all the votes, the races are called outside the margin of error needed for any of your votes (that is, any vote within the races you voted), then they will set your ballot aside and certify the race.

Why should they manually count your ballot if they already know the outcome of the races? At least, that's the reasoning...

It is not that hard to understand A nice example of how easy it is.

Tried to copy and paste it, but I got an error on too few characters per line.

"We're looking at ways to communicate that in a more forward manner," he said.

forwardness
noun The state or quality of being impudent or arrogantly self-confident: assumption, audaciousness, audacity, boldness, brashness, brazenness, cheek, cheekiness, chutzpah, discourtesy, disrespect, effrontery, face, familiarity, gall1, impertinence, impudence, impudency, incivility, insolence, nerve, nerviness, overconfidence, pertness, presumptuousness, pushiness, rudeness, sassiness, sauciness. Informal brass, crust, sauce, uppishness, uppityness. See attitude, courtesy.

"We're looking at ways to communicate that in a more forward manner," he said.

forwardness
noun The state or quality of being impudent or arrogantly self-confident: assumption, audaciousness, audacity, boldness, brashness, brazenness, cheek, cheekiness, chutzpah, discourtesy, disrespect, effrontery, face, familiarity, gall1, impertinence, impudence, impudency, incivility, insolence, nerve, nerviness, overconfidence, pertness, presumptuousness, pushiness, rudeness, sassiness, sauciness. Informal brass, crust, sauce, uppishness, uppityness. See attitude, courtesy.

"We're looking at ways to communicate that in a more forward manner," he said.

forwardness
noun The state or quality of being impudent or arrogantly self-confident: assumption, audaciousness, audacity, boldness, brashness, brazenness, cheek, cheekiness, chutzpah, discourtesy, disrespect, effrontery, face, familiarity, gall1, impertinence, impudence, impudency, incivility, insolence, nerve, nerviness, overconfidence, pertness, presumptuousness, pushiness, rudeness, sassiness, sauciness. Informal brass, crust, sauce, uppishness, uppityness. See attitude, courtesy.

Mods on LSD. That's not insightful, and it's not even particularly funny if you have any idea what the term 'the editorial we' means.

-fred

Yes, because ending a sentence with a preposition is against a rule of grammar.

Please do not appeal to the "rules" of language elementary school teachers have been feverly trying to enforce for generations. It won't work.

I think the people making the film have the right to decide the language used in their production. I'm sure they had their reasons to use Finnish instead of English. Seeing comments from people like you who don't seem to appreciate the diversity in this world, I begin to understand the French who carefully try to protect their language.

For the record, we are Finns, not fins. Here http://www.yourdictionary.com/images/ahd/jpg/A4fin .jpg are some fins.

You suggested that Finns are often angry and drunk. Well, where I live (student village in Espoo, Finland) people are often happy when drunk.

"payed" is an alternate spelling. So he is right in a sense.

Dictionary.com

Ok... They put it in there, then locked it up, and didn't tell anyone. I.E., they deliberately obscured it's existance, to prevent it from being found. I think if you look up the word hid in a dictionary, like this one, you will find that what they did does, in fact, constitute hiding. It's not a matter of agreeing. The word "hide", as currently defined by modern english, perfectly describes what they did.

Exactly, that was part my point. They were irresponsible, their actions were incorrect, and now they discover that their incorrect actions have consequences.

Yes, but why didn't Rockstar remove it? That's what I'm trying to say: when you *know* something is bad, that it will get you in trouble, that it will cause problems for everyone, you shouldn't do it. Rockstar has set off a chain problems for the entire fucking industry just because they couldn't be bothered to comment out a few lines of code. No, it's not all their fault, not by a long shot. Yes, they are getting more flak than they deserve. But they did make a mistake, and they do need to be corrected on their mistake.

It's there, it was a bad idea, boo hoo. IMHO, Rockstar should say, "oops, our bad." ESRB should say, "Tut tut, don't do that again. Here, we must slap your wrist now." Slap. Then the issue should go away. Alas, everyone is too much into saving face or making political ground to let this happen.

Could you please provide a reference for how the names ought to be pronounced? Every single pronunciation guide I could find on-line said, to the last one, that the pronunciation of "Zeus" is [ZOOS]. I've had an interest in Greek Mythology for some time, and I've never come across any other pronunciation. If there actually is a pronunciation that is more correct than that, I am very curious to know what it is.

Here are a few references I found when attempting to find a pronunciation guide:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Diction ary&va=Zeus&x=0&y=0
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/z/zeus.html
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0853377.htm l
http://library.thinkquest.org/J002110/zeus.htm
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/z/z0012500.html
http://reference.allrefer.com/encyclopedia/Z/Zeus. html
http://www.gods-heros-myth.com/godpages/zeus.html
http://www.hyperdic.net/dic/zeus.htm
http://www.uwf.edu/english/lanier/Pronunc.html

Sometimes it's bad style, but it's not grammatically incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition. http://www.emich.edu/styleguide/prepositions.htm http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/cmosfaq /cmosfaq.Prepositions.html http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/p/p0530700.html http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/articles/art icle/1026513/8910.htm

Actually, the problem is not ending a sentence with a preposition, but including a preposition without an object: here and here.

"you're trying to tell me, that you'll die if you can't download movies
off the Internet*"

You have to be able to extrapolate,
to recognize patterns and see in what direction we are and will be
going. You are not doing that, either because you do not wish to
or because you are not able to, and so you see what is going on right
now and not where it will lead. You ridicule the immediate issue
because you cannot comprehend the long term effects.

And in the interest of high standards, it's rIdiculous. That has to be one of the most mispelt words on Slashdot.

To even further improve standards I might add that "existance" is a much better candidate than "rediculous"

"Mispelt", though, is more at the end of the /.-ranking, though commonly - and this is where the geeks diifer - it is said to be among the 100 Most Often Misspelled Words in English

CC.

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/a/a0080600.html says addicting is right. I, too, don't like the word addicting and prefer addictive. Brian

You know what really ticks me off? I mean, besides the whole hot grits thing. It's people who try to come up with a clever nick, and spell it wrong. How stupid can you be? You're going to be using this as a personal label, and you don't even take the time to spell it right?

Verify your facts before posting.
That way, I won't have to do it for you.

> the site you referenced does not refute anything

Okay, then, what about this one, then? It's still not a "rule" of the English language, just some stupid idea some rich jerks thought up to try to make themselves sound smart. I stand by my assholishness.

less a pedant.... more like snobbishly.

people just don't talk that way

"This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." - Winston Churchill

ending sentances with prepositions

--: BEGIN Rant --:

About the word "steal": Yeah, you're right, but while we're lookin' stuff up, let's look up connotation (sense 2b). IMHO, while you're right about the definition of "steal", that crime-y little word has many very negative connotations. And, in its most common usages, once something is stolen, it's previous posessor no longer has it.

But, of course, there's a fundamental difference between the electric world and the physical in this instance. In the physical world, it's much easier to move an object than it is to copy it. But it's the reverse in the electronic world. (at least most of the time ;-) ) In fact, to move things electronically, it's often necessary to copy, then delete the previous instance.

Websites that tell me to make no copies of their page annoy me since, most times, their page is already cached by my browser by the time I even see the notice.

A few years back there were anti-piracy radio commercials that said something close to: "When your kid installs pirated software, it's the same as if they went into a store, took a CD off the shelf and put it in their back pack and left without paying for it." Everytime I heard this commercial, I had to resist the temptation to rip the goddamn radio apart! (don't shoot the messenger) The (broken) analogy the commercial makes flies in the face of the way all this electronic stuff works. I.e. when you make a copy, now you have two!. It's like that Jesus thing where he fed all the people from one loaf of bread and one fish... or whatever.

--:END Rant:--

Ok, no I'm not saying I have all the answers. Hell, I probably have no answers. No, I'm not really in favor of abolishing all copyright, all patents, all trademarks, etc. But it really bugs me when people overstress old analogies that really don't work very well, and when people try to slip strongly negatively biasing language into the discussion.

I'd even go so far as to say that, in the future, I'd like to see the word "steal" (and related words) get redefined. No, I don't expect it to actually happen--but then again I didn't think WotC'd stop printing dual lands either. You never know.

well arn't we a stupid person. Please list these "serveral independant reasearch companies", and also check into who funded this reseach...i bet my last dollor that M$ name is all over the cheques. Just because a company says there a "independant research company" doesn't mean that it's so. Also, what hardware was this tested on? for all we know, the windows boxes could have been the lastest and crazyest tech out there, while the linux boxes could have been running on some pile of shit 486. Also, do you even know what the fuck the definition of a hacker is? here's a stupidity link for you: Here Besides, how do we know that your even telling the truth about you certs? for all we know you could be some kind of 12 year old kid that read somthing somwhere and wants to sounds smart. So next time that you go posting shit like this, post some links to back yourself up. PS: I know several people that barly made it out of highschool that in my opinion (in the professional world) could run circles around you. nuff said.

Hmm.

If by "humous" you mean "humus", as in errr... natural fertiliser, then, why sir, you've found it!

Try this one instead. :)

I can see the "Post Anonymously" option, but where do I find the "Post Humously" option?

Actually, the correct spelling is virii according to "Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary"

Bull freakin crap. I defy you to find a link to prove that. While you are at it, explain these:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/v/v0118100.html
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=virus

By the way... the worms rely on security holes to spread. If there were no security holes the worms wouldn't be able to spread

Bull freakin crap. The emails trick users into launching executables. What- you don't think that an executable running on a Linux machine can send 100 emails in 30 seconds to people in your kMail address book? There is no security hole being exploited, only dumb users executing untrusted code.

"I don't think it's being disingenuous," he said. "I'm not lying to anybody."

The definition of a lie . Merriam-Webster has a more detailed definition, but no direct links.

So yes, jackass, you are lying to your listeners. That's all it boils down to.

Of course, some people ( of which I am one ) would argue that almost all media has been lying to us for quite some time.

Ok, apparently someone wasn't listening in 3rd grade. The principal is the guy that is in charge of the school, and he's our "pal" so we put "p-a-l" at the end of the word.

True. People won't listen though, and continue making simple errors. This and 99 other often mispeld words at http://yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html.

"keep this discussion decent": It was your post which attacked someone else for using a legitimate work that started this entire pointless thread. It's too bad you can't take criticism, even from a number of posters who believe you are wrong-headed on this subject. Telling someone their logic is flawed is a part of this kind of forum. However, you make ad hominem attacks in your first post, with no good reason (niggardly is NOT an inflammatory word): "if you had some sense of self-respect", "you are a troll", "you are just sad", "stupid troll", and "you are lower than a troll. it makes me wish for a (-5 ignorant idiot) moderation". I guess I can (ironically) add hypocrisy to your list of deficiencies.

"Furthermore, I highly object to you calling me a racist because I state that in an average group of black people the word 'niggardly' would likely be misunderstood. The same holds true for an average group of caucasians." Unfortunately, you didn't include the caucasians in the grandparent post, which would make it appear to the reader that you were, in fact, only talking about the "black people". All the same, I don't think you should consider that the "average" person doesn't understand a particular word just because you have a problem with it.

"but the root word is probably related": in EITHER case, it has nothing to do with Nigger. You have no sticks for beating. I see your reading comprehension skills are lacking too.

Just for fun, and just from your last post: Caucasians should be capitalized. misinterprete. A group is singular. orginal. capitalisation. allright. descent.

I could go on I suppose but it's losing its appeal and presumably boring anyone who manages to read this far. Please let the thread die.

Amazing that you have positive karma. From condescension to profanity... well, at least we're not offtopic, since there really is no topic in a dupe.

I'm quite aware of the existence of the word "tuple". However, it's not in common usage, and in fact has nothing to do with the number 3, unless you want to call it a 3-tuple. It's also defined as a "a data object containing two or more components". Or "Toyohashi University Parallel Lisp Environment". Or "is a term from set theory which refers to a collection of one or more attributes." Or just a record in database theory. Nothing to do with 3.

Fuckwit indeed. I'm sorry that you seem unable to see obvious patterns.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Einstein

joke

Look up the definition of treble. At dictionary.com the first definition is "triple."

The problem isn't that that the poster misspelled it. It's that you have a limited vocabulary.

I... don't... know...

I think you meant suit , not suite , you ass-burglar.

I think you meant suit , not suite , you ass-burglar.

An 18 year old arsonist that attempted to burn down the infrastructure of the country perhaps... or one count of "arson" per incident which in the case of this worm numbers in the hundreds of millions.

You must be psychic. How is it you can see inside this youngster's mind so well? How can you be sure what his motivations and intentions were? Judging from the message inside the .exe, I'm thinking maybe his motivation was to tell Bill Gates he has bad software.

It's treasonous behaviour that was aimed at disabling/disrupting vital services (even if that wasn't the intension) and that's domestic terrorism by any definition.

Since when did arson become treason? Now I know you're trolling. Either that or you've lost touch with reality on a basic level. (Do you work for SCO?) Further, you contradict yourself when you say that the behaviour was "aimed at disabling/disrupting" followed by "even if that wasn't the intention".

yourdictionary.com defines terrorism as

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Next time you want to rant, please get your definitions straight first. Thanks for playing.

I'm pretty sure if you use your awesome mind powers you will be able to surf to various dictionary websites. You might notice that the definition of censorship only implies authority, not government. If my ISP uses SPEWS it gives spews the authority to remove or supress email it thinks is objectionable. If you restrict people from voicing their opinion on your network it IS censorship. But you have every right to censor them because you are a private entity.

My source says it did come into English originally from Greek, through Latin and New Latin. I just mentioned the closest classical language to English(only now bothering to learn about New Latin from Wikipedia). For all that the word has changed from its roots, it doesn't make a big difference.("elektron", or thereabouts, being the original Greek).

Just more linguistic trading. :)


*honk*

English is probably more open to importing words from other languages because England was invaded several times in the middle ages(Normans, Vikings), and is populated with people originally from an area in northern Germany. Thus, English gets its Germanic roots, and large numbers of words from(or through) French and more German(Vikings spoke... something. Norse variant of German is as far as I got on short notice).

This story is just goofy, though. "Mail" comes into English from French. "Courrier" came into French from Italian.(Electronic and variants come directly from Latin)

Languages survive through the adoption of new words, whether they be homegrown or imported. Attaching more value for one method over the other is just silly.

(More info on borrowed words in English. French and Norse invasions mentioned a few paragraphs from the bottom of the page.)


*honk*

English is probably more open to importing words from other languages because England was invaded several times in the middle ages(Normans, Vikings), and is populated with people originally from an area in northern Germany. Thus, English gets its Germanic roots, and large numbers of words from(or through) French and more German(Vikings spoke... something. Norse variant of German is as far as I got on short notice).

This story is just goofy, though. "Mail" comes into English from French. "Courrier" came into French from Italian.(Electronic and variants come directly from Latin)

Languages survive through the adoption of new words, whether they be homegrown or imported. Attaching more value for one method over the other is just silly.

(More info on borrowed words in English. French and Norse invasions mentioned a few paragraphs from the bottom of the page.)


*honk*

English is probably more open to importing words from other languages because England was invaded several times in the middle ages(Normans, Vikings), and is populated with people originally from an area in northern Germany. Thus, English gets its Germanic roots, and large numbers of words from(or through) French and more German(Vikings spoke... something. Norse variant of German is as far as I got on short notice).

This story is just goofy, though. "Mail" comes into English from French. "Courrier" came into French from Italian.(Electronic and variants come directly from Latin)

Languages survive through the adoption of new words, whether they be homegrown or imported. Attaching more value for one method over the other is just silly.

(More info on borrowed words in English. French and Norse invasions mentioned a few paragraphs from the bottom of the page.)


*honk*

For your 'being less of a dick' reading pleasure

1. 1 To get into one's possession by force, skill, or artifice, especially:
2. 
   a. To capture physically; seize: take an enemy fortress.
   b. To seize with authority; confiscate.

If I capture, seize, or confiscate your property, I have control and possession of your property while you lose it. That is the point you cannot see. If I don't take, or remove your property there is no theft. There might be copyright infringment, forgery or plagerism, but there is no theft without a transfer of possession.

But if that's not good enough for you, perhapse you'd like a few more. While you're noting the complete absence of any copying of so called "intellectual property" from any of those, check out how many specifically say "taking and removing". Thats because theft is concrete. I've either stolen your car from your garage or I haven't. I've either removed some stereos after breaking into Radio Shack or I haven't. That doesn't apply to downloading a copy of Office XP without paying for it, because there is no guarantee that I would have bought it in the first place. And even if it was guaranteed, MS has only "lo

1. 1 To get into one's possession by force, skill, or artifice, especially:
2. 
   a. To capture physically; seize: take an enemy fortress.
   b. To seize with authority; confiscate.

If I capture, seize, or confiscate your property, I have control and possession of your property while you lose it. That is the point you cannot see. If I don't take, or remove your property there is no theft. There might be copyright infringment, forgery or plagerism, but there is no theft without a transfer of possession.

But if that's not good enough for you, perhapse you'd like a few more. While you're noting the complete absence of any copying of so called "intellectual property" from any of those, check out how many specifically say "taking and removing". Thats because theft is concrete. I've either stolen your car from your garage or I haven't. I've either removed some stereos after breaking into Radio Shack or I haven't. That doesn't apply to downloading a copy of Office XP without paying for it, because there is no guarantee that I would have bought it in the first place. And even if it was guaranteed, MS has only "lo