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Nintendo Announces new Zelda, Mario & Metroid

MonkeyBot writes "Nintendo has posted news from the E3 convention concerning big name titles and their release dates. The new Metroids for the Cube and GBA, Legend of Zelda for the Cube, and a new Mario Game for the Cube are just a few of the titles for which new information is available. It'll be just like I'm a kid again, but with better graphics (and beer)!"

247 comments

  1. Metroid on GBA!! by cliffy2000 · · Score: 2

    Samus Aran in my pocket!
    ... for a brief moment... all is right in the world.

    1. Re:Metroid on GBA!! by edrugtrader · · Score: 2

      metroid II for the GBC was one of my favorite portable games of all time.

      now nearly every GBA game is awesome and worth countless hours under a well positioned lamp

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    2. Re:Metroid on GBA!! by L-Train8 · · Score: 2

      I was just playing this a little bit. It looks very much like Super Metroid, but the enemies look cooler. The combat seems to be improved somewhat from what I remember. On the SNES, it could be simple and tedious to shoot the bad guys. On the GBA, it seems to take a little more skill and concentration, and is more fun.

      While Metroid Prime for the 'Cube reminds me of a PC FPS, the GBA incarnation of Metroid looks like the best of classic side-scrolling action, with some tweaks to make it even better.

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    3. Re:Metroid on GBA!! by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1

      Here are a couple of screen shots for the Gba version

      http://gbx2.network32.net/YabbSE/index.php?board=3 ; ction=display;threadid=509

    4. Re:Metroid on GBA!! by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      So that's why Nintendo nixed the HalfLife2Metroid TC.

      Jaysyn

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  2. Beer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe the games will grow with the times and you try to collect six packs instead of full hearts.

  3. Woh! by dragin33 · · Score: 0

    Woh! Metroid!

  4. Re-living my childhood by Hercynium · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the reason I like Nintendo better than all the other game systems out there... They had a great formula for fun video games 15 years ago, and they have stuck to what was proven fun and invented all sorts of new ways to keep it interesting! I *like* samus and mario and link... even if the game isn't all that good (think mario RPG) I still have fun playing it. It's just a way of going back :)

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    1. Re:Re-living my childhood by richlb · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      This is the reason I like Nintendo better than all the other game systems out there... They had a great formula for fun video games 15 years ago, and they have stuck to what was proven fun and invented all sorts of new ways to keep it interesting!

      And this is why I like my Sega Dreamcast. Nintendo just seems to take the same old characters and putting them in new games that really aren't that groundbreaking or original. New Mario Battle game. New Pokemon game. New Zelda game. It's like Police Academy 5 -- just not worth seeing the same thing over again (ok, bad example, but you get what I mean).

      Nintendo needs to come up with something new if they hope to finish #2 ahead of X-Box.

    2. Re:Re-living my childhood by jethro200 · · Score: 2

      I think that it's about time they re-incarnated Paperboy for GameCube. That was the best game ever. Of course, it would have to be 3-D, like every other game they have comtinued making new versions of. I would by ANY system that had that game...

    3. Re:Re-living my childhood by colmore · · Score: 2

      Saying that Super Metroid was exactly the same as Metroid is like saying Half Lifew was exactly the same as Doom. Sure they're the same genre, and being from the same franchise they have some of the same characters and items, but it's a significantly different experience.

      The GameCube Metroid is going to be first person, so it will actually be a completely different game. can Nintendo make a console first person shooter that is heavily exploration and power-up based work? We'll see. But it won't be "the same" as the earlier games.

      The Gameboy advance seems to be all about 8 and 16-bit nostalgia. The new games play remarkably like old ones, and there are many re-issues. The fact that it is so widely successful (the fastest selling video game system of all time,) I think is testament to the fact that, despite the technology, 2D sidescrollers are not dead. People still want them, and only Nintendo is providing.

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    4. Re:Re-living my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't agree with you anymore. I was a total Nintendo fanatic before the N64. I was one which won the local compitions in Mario, and totally addicted to the likes of Kid Icarus, Metroid etc. The Snes was even more awesome, however when the Nintendo 64 was released, it simply was not the same. I was not interested enough to buy the console on the day of release and play the game, the gameplay was so different and I couldn't get used to it. In this way Nintendo may have been striving very hard to innovate their games. I've been to previews of the Nintendo Gamecube games, and I have to say that this is one console which may just allow them to capture the mainstream market.

    5. Re:Re-living my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Early childhood games are my most prized memories. Metroid was awesome, and I hope metroid prime on gamecube will be fun -- then will I re-live my childhood.

  5. Augmented Metroid vs. Quake by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1

    Who would win in a fight?

    1. Re:Augmented Metroid vs. Quake by anacron · · Score: 2

      Mario Kart was cool, but bring me back Uniracers. That game got me through 2 years of college. If you want some fun, turn the tournament mode into a drinking game.

      .anacron

  6. ANY PORTS by jimmylens · · Score: 0, Troll

    Has anybody within the /. community heard of any ports of Metroid or other Nintendo games?

    I would love to see this on the XBOX. I am not going to buy a gamecube just because of Metroid! Although, I did get an XBOX because of halo!

    "I don't mean to offend. I offend to mean."

    1. Re:ANY PORTS by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2

      I doubt you'll see any ports. Nintendo owns the licences for these titles, and there are a lot of people like me that will (did) buy a GameCube to play these games.

      Game titles that deal with Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, and Mario typically have great game play. If you ask me, $150 bucks is a small price to pay in order to play Shigeru Miyamoto's games :)

      Moreover, the fact that Capcom is only developing new Resident Evil games for the GameCube is another exclusive bonus for Cube owners.

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  7. But where is by rgraham · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mario Cart? Which IMHO is the best racing game ever! I don't know how many times I've piloted Yoshi around all those tracks but I still find it fun every time I do.

    1. Re:But where is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      All that playing, and still can't spell Mario Kart?

    2. Re:But where is by dimator · · Score: 2

      True dat. The racing mode got less fun pretty quick, but the battle mode... wow, I have no idea how many hours I spent on that. Toad or Koopa, all the way.

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    3. Re:But where is by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its called Diddy Kong Racing. And yes, its coming. You didn't think it wouldn't be, did you? :) Check www.planetgamecube.com

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    4. Re:But where is by icer1024 · · Score: 1

      Yoshi?!? Really? Most people, myself included, are partial to Toad and the Koopa-Tropper. All Yoshi had going for him was accelaration... he sucked at cornering, and had a lower top speed. But I digress... I still play this on the weekends that my girlfriend and I visit her parents. ;)

    5. Re:But where is by Phredward · · Score: 1
      "And yes, it's coming."

      This is my problem with the cube. All the big titles aren't out yet. Zelda in feb 2003?? Holy jeeze! I want Nintendo to win the console wars because I like their games, and hey, I don't want to see Microsoft take over video games. But they've got to step up on the killer game timeline if they expect to get people to stick with the cube. Where is the summer lineup that I thought I would have?

    6. Re:But where is by rgraham · · Score: 2

      I never learned too read or spell due to all my Nintendo playing. Let that be a lession to all you kiddies out there.

    7. Re:But where is by rgraham · · Score: 2

      Toad always pissed me off with his high pitched yelling and Koopa-Trooper, well... I got nothin.

    8. Re:But where is by Paul+Komarek · · Score: 2

      You should go outside in the Summer. How else will you get vitamin D (well, four cereal-bowls worth of milk will do it, too)? Save the video games for the Winter, and by Calcium Citrate vitamins.

      I'm willing to wait for Nintendo. Just like I'm waiting for DVD region encoding to (legally) die before I by a DVD player.

      -Paul Komarek

    9. Re:But where is by Paul+Komarek · · Score: 2

      Peach kicks both their asses!

      -Paul Komarek

    10. Re:But where is by discstickers · · Score: 1

      Sure, it takes a while for Nintendo Games to come out. Hell.. the N64 was delayed because Mario64 wasn't ready. But when the games finally are released, they are absolute gems. It's good to space them out. The way I see it, Mario for the first semester and Zelda for the second. =D

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    11. Re:But where is by phong3d · · Score: 1

      With the Playstation 2 on the shelves for a year prior to release and the Xbox on the way, I think Nintendo had no choice but to release the Cube and wait for the system sellers to roll in. The launch library was (I thought) a little thin, but it will flesh out eventually. Perhaps in a less cutthroat market, they could have held out until at least Mario Sunshine was ready, but who knows?

  8. Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess someone got nostalgic for the old days of nintendo cult status. Now if we can only convince them not to make 'em all totally in 3D maybe they'll have a chance. When I was a kid, video games only had two dimensions to them. And we liked it, gosh darn it. Built character, it did.
    And it helped develop 'hand-eye' coordination. Of course, then again, so does masturbation...

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    1. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is what I was thinking. I couldn't tell if Metroid is 100% 3D, but the other two are. Are we doomed to never having 2D games again? 3D games can be good, and definitely have a place, but it's sad to see all 2D games "replaced" by them. Can't we all just get along?

      Mario 64 was cool, but if they made a 2D Mario as well, would kids really think it was lame?

      mark

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    2. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 1

      Super Smash Brothers Melee is basically a 2d game, gameplay wise...

    3. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by inerte · · Score: 1

      Of course, then again, so does masturbation...

      No mo'! I am just playing Decathlon !?!

      Anyone remember this game?

    4. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by edrugtrader · · Score: 2

      funny, yes, but OH SO TRUE...

      from the metroid article:
      Traverse a crippled spaceship and explore the vast worlds of Tallon IV in an all-new first-person perspective!

      how the FUCK are you going to play metroid in first-person?!

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    5. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the best fucking game in the world is pitfall for the atari. bar none. i can swing across them crockie's like a real fucking bushwhacker. scorpions? i jump those bitches like im a friggin basketball player. these new games are for a buncha pantywaste faggots if you ask me. one button and a joystick is all i need. No A B C X Y Z thumb controlled analog force fucking feedback asssticks. Fuck that. I used to chew the fuck out of the rubber things on the atari joysticks too. and it was good i tell ya. damn good. sometimes we couldnt afford food so i just ate that rubber. jesus those were good times. Pitfall. Combat. Basketball. Holy shit im tearing up here. gotta go.

    6. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      check out Jedi Knight II for the PC, I bet the FPS Metroid game will be similar.

    7. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by krmt · · Score: 2
      how the FUCK are you going to play metroid in first-person?!
      Probably much the same way you play Sonic, Mario, and Zelda in 3d. Or, for that matter, James Bond.
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    8. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get your 3d game on with gamecube.
      get your 2d game on with gba.
      FIRST PERSON METROID WILL R0X0R MY C0XOR.
      it is all good, cthulhu.

    9. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Frank+Grimes · · Score: 1
      how the FUCK are you going to play metroid in first-person?!
      Probably much the same way you play Sonic, Mario, and Zelda in 3d. Or, for that matter, James Bond.
      I'm looking forward to a game with the great user interface of the 3d zelda games and the coolness of metroid.

      And the old 2d games are still around. I play them all the time.

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    10. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by edwdig · · Score: 2

      Metroid Prime for GameCube is fully 2D. Metroid Fusion for Gameboy Advance is 2D.

    11. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by ZaMoose · · Score: 3, Informative

      The new Contra is 2D! Just look!

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    12. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Ondo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is what I was thinking. I couldn't tell if Metroid is 100% 3D, but the other two are.

      Metroid Prime for the GameCube is 3D.

      Are we doomed to never having 2D games again?

      No. Metroid Fusion for the Gameboy Advance is 2D. The Gameboy Advance is where it's at for 2D games currently.

      Shigeru Miyamoto has an intresting response when asked about 2D vs 3D in this interview at GameSpot UK.

    13. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by zurab · · Score: 1

      When I was a kid, video games only had two dimensions to them. And we liked it, gosh darn it... And it helped develop 'hand-eye' coordination.

      Fast forward to 2000 - Zelda on N64 in surround sound develops hand-eye-ear coordination in a more realistic 3-D game.

    14. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by ZaMoose · · Score: 4, Informative

      Metroid Prime is decidedly NOT 2D. It's an FPS w/3rd person for the ball sections.

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    15. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by daddymac · · Score: 1
      Metroid Prime for GameCube is fully 2D.

      uh... it looked like a first-person to me... hardly what I would call 2D.

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    16. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by dtfarmer · · Score: 1

      -how the FUCK are you going to play metroid in first-person?!
      --Probably much the same way you play Sonic, Mario, and Zelda in 3d.

      first person != third person

      The only first person game I have liked recently is GT3. I know I will give this one a chance (it is Nintendo after all), but if it plays like all the fps's I've ever played (Marathon 1-Infinity, Quake 1-3, Bond, Turok) I'm gonna be very disappointed. Mostly it comes down to this - fps's usually have minimal story, little character development (aside from 10 different guns), and end up only being fun when played online/mutliplayer in a frag-fest - which soon gets ruined by the cheaters...

      So, I agree with the first post - I want to know how Nintendo is going to keep from 'Castlevania-ing' Metroid in the transition to 3D, especially first-person 3D. My expectations are that the GBA version of Metroid will be the better game. Hopefully Nintendo can surprise me....

    17. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by edwdig · · Score: 2

      Sorry, typo, meant to say Metroid Prime is fully *3D*, and Metroid Fusion is 2D.

    18. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this puppy up! This is pretty big/good news.

    19. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by Inoshiro · · Score: 2

      "And it helped develop 'hand-eye' coordination. Of course, then again, so does masturbation..."

      Usually I'm looking at porn or something else such that I don't have time to stare at my penis, but if it gets you off....

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    20. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by edrugtrader · · Score: 2

      yes, but then it isn't metroid...

      metroid is the game where you have jump boots and can become a sticky ball. if you can't see what is behind you 2D style the gameplay and mindset will entirely change.

      this will just be another 3d FPS pile of crap.

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    21. Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      yes, but then it isn't metroid...

      metroid is the game where you have jump boots and can become a sticky ball.


      No, Metroid is about exploring a sprawling, hostile environment by gaining new power-ups to reach once-inaccessible areas. It's about discovering new secrets and shortcuts. It's about atmosphere and good gameplay.

      If Retro Studios can stick to that in 3d, I'll play it. Hell, if they can stick to that in 1d, I'll play it.

      --Jeremy

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  9. YES! by Tokerat · · Score: 3

    About time Metroid was reincarneted. Now i have a good reason to go buy a GameCube sometime.

    I KNEW NIntendo wouldnt' let me down! Now if only their business tactics record wasn't for shame...

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    1. Re:YES! by JHromadka · · Score: 2
      I KNEW NIntendo wouldnt' let me down! Now if only their business tactics record wasn't for shame...

      As opposed to Sony & Microsoft?

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    2. Re:YES! by krmt · · Score: 3

      I'm still bitter that Metroid never made it to the N64. And only one real Mario game, and at the very beginning of the product's cycle. Yeah, it's more than time for some renewal. Maybe one of these days I'll get a gamecube.

      I'm definitely going to pick up the GBA Metroid when that comes out. I hope a GBA Zelda is in the works, even though there's multiple GBC Zelda's, a full-fledged game like the SNES version would be perfect.

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    3. Re:YES! by scot4875 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I hope a GBA Zelda is in the works

      You'll find Miyamoto demonstrating one here. It's multiplayer, even.

      --Jeremy

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    4. Re:YES! by Trunks · · Score: 2, Informative

      A GBA Zelda is indeed in the works, but it appears that it won't be a new title. Instead, it's gonna be a remix of the SNES Zelda: Link to the Past, but with multiplayer support for co-op play.

      This post sponsored by Ninja Burger.
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    5. Re:YES! by ZaMoose · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean like the four player linked GBA Zelda shown in Nintendo's press conference?

      Cause that might just hit the spot.

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    6. Re:YES! by krmt · · Score: 2

      Yes, that'll do very very very nicely. You just made my day :-)

      Now all I need is a floodlight or someone to install an afterburner for me cheap.

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    7. Re:YES! by Tokerat · · Score: 1

      LOL good point.

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  10. Poor Mario! by Liora · · Score: 3, Funny

    Waiting to get the girl again?

    Mario sets off on his greatest adventure yet

    No, that would happen if he arrived on a pollution-free island and got to do some much deserved resting and relaxing there with Princess Peach.

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    1. Re:Poor Mario! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry Mario, the Princess is in another castle!

    2. Re:Poor Mario! by krmt · · Score: 2

      I think he did that between the release of Mario64 and Mario Sunshine. The gameboy games were like reruns during the summertime, and Paper Mario does not count.

      My guess is that Nintendo called Luigi in to clear out that mansion at the last minute because Mario was still hungover from his rockin' vacation. The time for plumbin' with Peach is over buddy, it's time to get to adventurin'!

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  11. RezEvil for cube was awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the cube is completely unbearable to play without the adapter to use your dualshock controllers with it. You must buy these adapters! Original cube controllers suck more than any MS has ever done.

    Now how about a dish from the recipe troll?

  12. Get Your Past On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In a related note, Hollywood is sinking, and will be releasing an updated Spiderman, Apocalypse Now, Godfather, E.T., Star Wars, and a host of other dismal comebacks.

    1. Re:Get Your Past On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an updated Apocalypse Now and Godfather coming out? I haven't heard anything about this, care to share more?

    2. Re:Get Your Past On by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have already been released. Apocolypse Now Redux, and some sort of Godfather Anniversary. Use the web, you'll learn something.

  13. New Nintendo strategy? by sludgely · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Recently Nintendo seems to be showing a new strategy of innovation.

    For example:

    1) Zelda is to be cel-shaded.
    2) Metroid will be a FPS.
    3) And unconfirmed rumors say that Mario Sunshine will be designed for 3dglasses, thats why the screenshots seem so odd.

    Nintendo must be trying to break their image of being totally conventional and change resisting.

    1. Re:New Nintendo strategy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, that's so innovative...

      Cel shading: Check out Simpson's Racing, Simpson's Wrestling, Whacky Racers, and a host of other games that already do this.

      FPS: This one needs no comment.

      3D Glasses: This was done before, flopped before, and will flop again. Didn't they learn with the virtual boy? 3D glasses are and always have been used like perfume on shit. Remember the last GOOD 3D movie you went to? Me neither.

    2. Re:New Nintendo strategy? by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

      Devils advocate - although moving Metroid to FPS is innovative for Metroid, it's hardly innovative. I'm still looking forward to it though - hopefully they pull it off.

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    3. Re:New Nintendo strategy? by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "3) And unconfirmed rumors say that Mario Sunshine will be designed for 3dglasses, thats why the screenshots seem so odd."

      The reason the pictures are 'odd' is because they are photographs from projectors. I wouldn't take the glasses rumor too seriously.

      As for Nintendo 'using a new strategy of being innovative...', why is this a new strategy for Nintendo? Have you been paying attention to Nintendo's evolution? Look at the SNES controller, then look at the N64 controller, then look at the GC controller... notice something? They'z a little bit different. Look at the Playstation controller, then the PS2 controller... or look at the XBOX controller that wants to be a Dreamcast controller.

      What about the games? Look at how radically different the Mario games are from each other. Look at how Nintendo added the Super FX chip in Star Fox just to give gamers a new experience. Bah Im not gonna go on anymore, I think my point stands.

      The reason that Nintendo has got a strong following is because you can always buy a Nintendo product and get something that totally blows your mind. Too bad Sony and MS haven't figured that out yet.

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  14. Game Fact Sheets by MountainLogic · · Score: 0, Informative

    Fact Sheet - Super Mario Sunshine

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBETM
    Launch Date: August 26, 2002
    ESRB: RP (Rating Pending)
    Game Type: Action
    Accessories: Memory Card
    Players: 1
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    Seeking well-deserved rest and relaxation, MarioTM and Princess Peach travel to a beautiful remote island. It is said the local citizens are friendly and the weather forecast suggests year-round sunshine. However, when they get to the island, they quickly find out that the peaceful paradise has been polluted by a mysterious stranger. Worse still, the individual bears a striking resemblance to Mario! Determined to clear his reputation and clean up the island, Mario sets off on his greatest adventure yet.

    Features

    Discover the first Mario title for NINTENDO GAMECUBE, developed by a team under the supervision of Mario's celebrated creator Shigeru Miyamoto.

    Explore the game's colorful 3-D world, filled with expansive environments.

    Restore the power of Shine to keep the island clean.

    Wash away island mess to restore the community to its pristine condition using Mario's new water pump device.

    Perform a number of different jumps, bounce off walls, run, slide, climb, and fly to the highest reaches - more mobility than ever before.

    Bask in cheery graphics, real-time lighting effects and stunning reflections that bathe the island in sunshine.

    Visit Yoshi, Toad and a host of other friends as Mario encounters a collection of enemies bent on foiling his efforts to restore the island.

    Fact Sheet - Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBETM
    Launch Date: June 24, 2002
    ESRB: M - Mature
    Game Type: Psychological Thriller
    Accessories: Memory Card
    Players: 1
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    In a story that spans space and time, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem(TM) introduces 12 controllable characters through the last 2000 years of history, from ancient Rome to modern day. The story revolves around a young woman, Alexandra Rovias, who travels to Rhode Island to investigate the mysterious death of her grandfather. As the game unfolds, Alexandra experiences events through the game's other characters and eventually discovers the secret of human history.

    Features

    A smart and compelling storyline stretching through 20 centuries, intended for players 17 and older

    Play as 12 different characters, each with their own special abilities

    Sanity System - adds new levels of unpredictability to the game play experience, causing the player to question each step taken in the game

    Each character battles enemies with historically accurate weapons and a unique enemy targeting system

    Game features a groundbreaking animation engine; brings characters to life with emotional responses based on current situations

    Superior 3D engine, including: bump-mapping, radiosity lightmaps, ray-traced lightmaps, volumetric fogging, 24-bit color, and 640x480 resolution running at
    60 frames per second

    Haunting musical score to completely envelope the players' experience

    Music, sound effects, artwork, technology, story and game play combine in a way never before attempted in a video game

    Character Preview List

    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem is deep in story and character development. Below is a sample of the diverse characters players experience through the journey.

    Alexandra Roivas - Student, 2000 AD, Rhode Island
    A headstrong and independent spirit, Alexandra intends to further the field of numbers theory through her uncanny intellect. She is the type of woman who will never quit, and generally succeeds in her goals through sheer determination. A very intelligent and creative woman, Alexandra?s only weakness, perhaps, is her confidence, which often lands her in situations that, although she can handle, are probably in her best interests to leave alone.

    Pious Augustus - Roman Centurion, 26 BC Persia
    A nobleman conscripted into the army of the Roman Empire, Pious is a Centurion, a commander during the Empire?s campaigns in Persia. He is in his mid to late twenties, and is in good health, with features shaped by the grim horror of the wars he has fought. The conquest has taken its toll on him, and although still a loyal soldier, the novelty of his profession is beginning to wear tiresome. He believes there is more to his life than being a soldier.

    Ellia - Dancer of the Court of Suryavarman II, 1152 AD Cambodia
    Ellia was born into servitude during the 12th century in the dank jungles of Cambodia. As part Khmer working class, she was destined to be a dancing/slave girl in the City Temple that had been built to honor the Hindu gods. Now a teenager in the employ of the Priesthood of the Temple, she witnesses things she is not meant to. Discovering this, she desperately wants no part of it and attempts to escape.

    Fact Sheet - Metroid Prime

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBE(TM)
    Launch Date: November 18, 2002
    ESRB: RP (Rating Pending)
    Game Type: Action/Adventure
    Accessories: Memory Card
    Players: 1
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    Samus first stopped the evil Space Pirates and Mother Brain from amassing an army of Metroids on the planet Zebes. Then she was called on to finish the job on SR388, ultimately ridding the universe of all but a single Metroid larva. In Super Metroid, for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Samus thwarted Mother Brain's attempt to snatch the captive Metroid larva from the scientists on Ceres. Now, Samus is once again called to investigate Space Pirate activities on the unexplored Tallon IV. Her adventure begins as she enters a mysterious derelict spaceship.

    Features

    Traverse a crippled spaceship and explore the vast worlds of Tallon IV in an all-new first-person perspective!

    Take advantage of Samus's many powers using new suits that enable her to gain new abilities and revisit earlier worlds to uncover many hidden secrets.

    Master Samus's combat, scan, and visors -- elements crucial to your success.

    Explore each area to find many familiar weapons, such as the Wave Beam and Freeze Beam, and some all-new ones as well.

    Choose the right weapon or ability carefully for the situation at hand. Samus will need to use all of the suit and visor abilities as well as many specialized weapons to navigate deadly Tallon IV!

    Fact Sheet - Star Fox Adventures

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBE(TM)
    Launch Date: September 30, 2002
    ESRB: RP (Rating Pending)
    Game Type: Action/Adventure
    Accessories: Memory Card
    Players: 1
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    Nintendo and Rare® Ltd. join forces to bring Fox McCloud and friends to NINTENDO GAMECUBE. Eight years after the defeat of Andross, the Star Fox team discovers a beautiful prehistoric planet ruled by a sinister tyrant known as General Scales. Players take charge of Star Fox team leader Fox McCloud to free inhabitants from Scales's evil clutches and restore peace to the primal paradise.

    Features

    Step out of Fox's Arwing and explore a vast, 3-D world lush in forestry, animals, puzzles and adventure.

    Learn the secrets of a mystical staff to fend off enemies and use it to cast a variety of spells.

    Battle enemies without skipping a beat with the game's intuitive targeting system that locks combat action.

    Traverse land and water or fight through space using Fox's trusty Arwing fighter.

    Build clever strategies to defeat huge boss enemies.

    Witness technologically advanced graphics with Rare's fur-rendering techniques and lavish effects including shimmering water, real-time lighting, depth-of-field blurring and a sophisticated facial animation system.

    Enjoy in-depth, life-like voice-overs and an atmospheric musical score that enhance this whimsical story.

    Fact Sheet - Mario Party 4

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBE(TM)
    Launch Date: October 28, 2002
    ESRB: RP (Rating Pending)
    Game Type: Board Game/Multiple Genre
    Accessories: Memory Card
    Players: 1-4
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    Multi-player pandemonium hits NINTENDO GAMECUBE with Mario Party 4, which includes 50 all-new mini-games and multiple fully rendered 3-D game boards. Nintendo's favorite bunch of characters is back; Koopa, Toad and the others have prepared many maps inside the Party Cube. By rolling the virtual dice and advancing through mini-game trickery, you'll play for the hidden stars.

    Features

    Choose favorite Nintendo video game characters and compete in a series of contests to win the birthday present.

    Take advantage of the Mini-Giant system - players can use items on the boards to grow larger or smaller in order to access different areas of the game boards and trigger special events.

    Bump, whack and bang away in the newly introduced Tag Battle, which lets players pair up in two-man teams and compete at collecting stars.

    Set a handicap that allows players of all ages and abilities to compete against each other.

    Dash through an unmatched variety of game play with challenges that pit one player against three, two against two, each player against each other or four players against a common enemy.

    Fact Sheet - Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse

    Format: NINTENDO GAMECUBE(TM)
    Launch Date: August 2002
    ESRB: E (Everyone)
    Game Type: Adventure
    Accessories: NINTENDO GAMECUBE Game Boy Advance cable
    Memory Card
    Players: 1
    MSRP: $49.95

    Game Summary
    Everyone's favorite character, Mickey Mouse, makes his NINTENDO GAMECUBE debut in this interactive story. Trapped in a magical mirror, he finds himself in an alternate universe that strangely resembles his house. Mickey yearns to get through the mirror, back to his bed and his peaceful dreams! Getting there won't be easy though, because he will need to recover the broken mirror pieces strewn about the house by a mischievous, troublemaking ghost.

    Features

    Join Mickey Mouse in his starring role in a video game exclusively on the NINTENDO GAMECUBE.

    Guide Mickey from room to room and solve puzzles, trick enemies and pull gags to locate the scattered mirror pieces.

    Rebuild the broken mirror and stop the ghosts' tomfoolery to get Mickey home.

    Collect souvenirs - such as Pluto's collar or Minnie's bow - which are all displayed in Mickey's room at the end of the game.

    Connect with Disney's Magical Quest Starring Mickey and Minnie for Game Boy Advance using the NINTENDO GAMECUBE Game Boy Advance cable to find some extra help for Mickey on his adventures.

    Product names, images, features and release dates relate to product in development and may be subject to changes.

  15. Not enough games by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

    This is welcome news! The only thing holding back the Gamecube is a lack of games. I own Star Wars, Resident Evil, Super Smash Bros, and Pikmin. I would buy a lot more but there aren't any games out there worth buying.

    THe gamecube price just dropped as well (luckily I bought my GC less than 30 days ago and got the difference back from the store I bought it at :)

    Could we have linked to some articles with pictures though? Or am I missing a link on the page?

    I heard (on Penny Arcade, I think) that there was supposed to be some big surprise announcement - I don't see anything mentioned here though...

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  16. Trailers are here!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    Insane trailers (Very professional movie-like). Check it.

    Metroid. (Insane)

    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/conte nts/gamepa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/metroid_prime/e3_metroidp rime_gcn_trailer.wmv asd sda asd dasasd

    Zelda. (Cel-da? SWEET JESUS it looks great!) asd sda asd dasasd

    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/zelda-gcn/e3_zelda_gcn_tr ailer.wmv

    Mario Sunshine. Wow asd sda asd dasasd


    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/super_mario_sunshine/e3_m ariosun_gcn_trailer.wmv

    Wario asd sda asd dasasd


    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/wario_world/e3_warioworld _gcn_mov01.wmv

    Star Fox asd sda asd dasasd

    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/starfox_adventures/e3_sta rfoxadv_gcn_trailer.wmv

    Metroid Fusion (GBA - Oh.. my... f'ing .. god! 2d SNES love baby!)

    http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/content s/gamepa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/metroid_fusion/e3_metroid fusion_agb_mov01.wmv

    Zelda GBA (4 player CO-OP multiplayer! INSANE. - Screenshots only)


    http://www.nintendo.com/games/gamepage/screensho ts . sp?gameId=1280

    Nintendo hands down has ended the console war with this lineup. Look at every single one of those. Infriggensane.

  17. ...for a second there I thought this was 1 game... by jdbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...so just from reading the headline, and my first thought was "that's insane!"

    ...my next thought was - "wait, no, if they could pull off a combination Zelda/Mario/Metroid game, resolving the differences between the different gaming styles and envionments/back stories it'd be one of the most amazing narrative (gaming or otherwise) tricks ever accomplished!"

    ...my third thought was - "holy crap, if a movie is ever made out of this combo game/story it would be even less coherent than the Super Mario Bros. movie, and thus be terribly harmful to the developing thought processes of our nation's youth - Nintendo must be stopped!!"

    ...my fourth thought was - "maybe I should read the f***ing article, or at least the summary beneath the headline before posting my ever-so-important concerns".

    ...my fifth thought was "this is Slashdot, no one will notice."

    ...and my sixth and final thought was "I can't believe you read this far."

  18. Metroid!! by carlosjordao · · Score: 1

    I hope they maintain the quality of Metroid.
    I hope even more they increase the quality of this Metroid (as graphics, fun and challenge) over
    SuperMetroid

  19. Mario RPG Rocked by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

    Fruity cutey story, but this is a Mario game, after all - unless you don't like RPG's, well, then why bother commenting about it? That would be like me ragging on Mario Golf because I don't like golf games or Metroid because I don't like platform games

    Holy shit, i'm such a fanboy

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    1. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2
      Mario RPG was good, but if you liked it, you've GOT to play Paper Mario on N64.

      The brilliant thing about Paper Mario was how much depth the game had relative to how complicated it was--there was more strategy in defeating a monster than in any post-VI Final Fantasy game, yet the game was so much simpler. Actually, there was a whole lot of brilliant things about Paper Mario--much better than Mario RPG.

    2. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by Hercynium · · Score: 2

      Mario RPG just came to mind because I was playing it last night... I love RPG's, and it fits the genre wonderfully, but I've found I like my RPG's on the well, less cutsey side.

      Gameplay was okay, but I thought the depth of the game was less than stellar. Just my opinion. ;)

      However... I was playing Luigi's Mansion on my brother's 'Cube and was totally sucked in! Geez that game's addictive!!! (yeah, and it's cutsey, I know)

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    3. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i didnt like paper mario when i rented it in a hotel once, it seemed really gay compared to the other games out on other systems at the time. mario rpg owns paper mario.

    4. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      i didnt like paper mario when i rented it in a hotel once, it seemed really gay compared to the other games out on other systems at the time. mario rpg owns paper mario.

      HOLY MOLY!!!!! GAY?!!!! WHATEVER PAPER MARIO IS WAY BETTAR!!!!!

      I AM TOTALLY PUNCHING U!!!!! TAKE THAT!!!!

      BYE!!!!!

    5. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      yes, i'm sure it was sexually attracted to men...

    6. Re:Mario RPG Rocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey no one said paper mario was male!!!!

  20. The New Zelda just like X-Files by Larry_Z · · Score: 5, Funny

    Game Summary
    The latest Legend of Zelda adventure begins with young Link living a peaceful life on a tiny island. One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing bird that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link sailing the high seas and searching for answers to the mystery behind her disappearance.


    Checking out the game summary I can't help but think that Link is really Fox Mulder.

  21. How Long? by Kriticism · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm wondering how long it's going to take before we see an article on /. about someone who has taken all of these games and gotten them to run on a GB Advance/Gamecube chop-job that has been crammed inside of an old C64 case, and which uses a vector-analysis routine combined with a laser projection system to display them on the bare midriff of a Natalie Portman poster.

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  22. ::sigh:: what about *new* games? by Ramuh · · Score: 0

    i'm tired of nintendo releasing the same damn games for every new system they come out with.
    i've played every super mario bros. to date... and i just want something new and exciting. i'd have to say that the only reason preventing me from purchasing nintendo products is that they are lacking in originality (that and zelda for the 64 was *horrible*).
    yeah, i love those old games, they kept me rapt for hours, even days at a time. but now i want something new. it seems that nintendo has found what works and they are simply repackaging it for a younger generation.
    the concepts were great, but i'm tired of mario saving the princess and megaman thrashing dr. wiley. how about a game with decent plot... that *isn't* an rpg! or maybe a 3d platform game... that isn't a bastardized offspring of the 2d version. or a space shoot 'em up that isn't totally mind-numbing
    ugh... i sound like a bitter old man

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    1. Re:::sigh:: what about *new* games? by XBoyAdv · · Score: 1

      So you want Nintendo to be like Sony and make many sequels only for one system till people get bored of the series? *cough*Twisted Metal*cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

  23. Back in the day... by delphin42 · · Score: 1

    If metroid is as good as the original or the super metroid version, I might have to blow $149 for the system and $50 or $60 for the game. Plus I'm curious about that Pikmin game. Zelda might be a plus as well. I haven't been into mario much since the days of the 8 bit nintendo.

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  24. ugh... sorry guys. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It literally took me 30 minutes to try and format that so Slashdot editor would even allow it.. It tries to block so much junk, even legit posts .. Here are the links Htmlized. Right-Click and "save as" ..

    Metroid

    Zelda

    Mario

    Wario

    Star Fox

    Metroid GBA

    Zelda GBA Screenshots - Co-op Multiplayer!

  25. Not my childhood by Clue4All · · Score: 1, Troll

    It'll be just like I'm a kid again, but with better graphics (and beer)!

    No it won't. Game companies, Nintendo included, stopped making fun games long ago and instead concentrated on what eye candy with no substance. You can't tell me that you can seriously compare any N64 or Gamecube game to an old-school Nintendo or SNES game and say it has the same level of fun because of the playability or content. This is why I stopped buying consoles, today they're all eye candy and no fun (with the possible exception of the GBA, though that's a stretch).

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    1. Re:Not my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought Ocarina of Time was pretty impressive on N64. Majora's Mask was excellent, and very dark, as well. Truly great stuff.

    2. Re:Not my childhood by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 1

      I agree with you about the trend, but I don't think that fun games no longer are made.

      Look at Super Monkey Ball for the GC and I think the Dreamcast. If everything was all about eye-candy and the ilk then I shudder to think about the market for apes rolling inside plastic balls. What makes SMB so much fun is the quality and variety in its gameplay. One can play for hours and never exhaust the multiplayer with friends, and I've heard even Sega's beta testers couldn't completely master the single player, though it's simultaneously accessible for beginners.

      There aren't enough games like Monkey Ball being made, though. You've got a point.

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    3. Re:Not my childhood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO, Goldeneye for the N64 was and still is one of the greatest games of all time.

    4. Re:Not my childhood by Requiem · · Score: 1

      Goldeneye. Super Smash Bros. Mario Kart 64.

      Sweet Jesus, have you not played a video game in the last five years? The games I mentioned above are awesome, and my only exposure to the N64 is playing it at a friend's house.

    5. Re:Not my childhood by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2

      I'll hold up Super Smash Brothers and Super Monkey Ball to any Nintendo or SNES game for fun, playability, or content. I'll agree that the 8/16 bit era of gaming was a golden age, but when I play some the Gamecube launch titles and look at Mario, Metroid, and especially Zelda screenshots, heck even some of my Dreamcast games, I start to suspect we might be starting a new golden age--that developers are finally starting to understand the medium of gameplay inside a 3d projections onto 2d surface.

    6. Re:Not my childhood by zurab · · Score: 1

      Nintendo included, stopped making fun games long ago and instead concentrated on what eye candy with no substance. You can't tell me that you can seriously compare any N64 or Gamecube game to an old-school Nintendo or SNES game...

      I don't know about you, but I am a big Zelda fan; I have played and completed most Zeldas on NES, SNES, GB, GBC, and N64. Your statement may hold true for other consoles and other games, but it's exactly the opposite for Zelda; which adds both eye candy *and* content with every new version.

      And, in my opinion, game like Zelda is an excellent strategy to keep people buying Nintendo consoles and systems. Resurrection of Metroid should also help tremendously. As far as 3rd party sports games, and other "eye candy" crap - they are available on any console and they are not as much decision makers or breakers.

  26. Snowball's Chance in Hell. by BlackGriffen · · Score: 2

    There is no way that Nintendo is going to let an exclusive property of theirs, made by a subsidiary (Retro isn't a second party any more, Nintendo holds a majority share now), to be published for another system when it poses a draw for gamers. These are good reasons to get a Cube, alongside Metroid:

    Mario Sunshine
    Zelda
    Smash Bros. Melee
    Resident Evil 0
    Eternal Darkness (and Too Human later)
    StarFox Adventures
    etc

    BlackGriffen

  27. You are nuts right? by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now I'm in raving fanboy mode, but didn't Sonic 3 play exactly like Sonic 1? And didn't Mario 3 play quite a lot different than Mario 1? I'd mention Mario 2, but that was originally a completely different game.

    I have always found that Nintendo always strove for innovation - although that really bit them in the ass a few times *cough* *VirtuaBoy* *cough*

    In any case, what did Sega ever put out that was that original?

    Virtua Fighter series... Sonic 1... I can't think of more.

    Just because the Nintendo games star the same characters, it doesn't mean they don't innovate - Mario64 was nothing like other platform/adventure games of the time. Pikmin was very unique. Playing Earthbound was rather like an interesting drug trip at times.

    I could go on and on (as raving fanboys tend to do - for the record, I have/had a PSX, many PC games, gbc, gba, sega genesis, nintendo, sega master system, atari, etc - so I am more of a video game fanboy - I just really like Nintendo games :)

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    1. Re:You are nuts right? by spyderbyte23 · · Score: 2
      In any case, what did Sega ever put out that was that original?
      No way I'm letting this pass...Shenmue, Jet Grind Radio, Chu Chu Rocket, Typing of the Dead(don't give me any shit about that one, it's surprisingly enjoyable), Ecco the Dolphin, Seaman(published but not developed, so partial credit). That's just the Dreamcast era.

      I don't mean in any way to say that Nintendo *isn't* innovative, but credit where credit is due.

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    2. Re:You are nuts right? by interiot · · Score: 2

      Jet Grind Radio — try finding a game that's just like it
      Virtua Tennis — the first tennis game that non-fans could enjoy
      Crazy Taxi — also unlike any other game... jumping, drifting cars... extreme obstacle courses

    3. Re:You are nuts right? by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      Virtua Tennis -- the first tennis game that non-fans could enjoy

      Errrm, Mario Tennis preceded it.

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    4. Re:You are nuts right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Super Tennis preceded that, and played better than virtua tennis.

    5. Re:You are nuts right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right on...Sega's taken more chances with innovative games and hardware... probably to their financial detriment... hardware wise they've realeased very innovative stuff.. the gamegear had a tv tuner with video input so you could use it as a monitor for a camcorder or vcr or even play your snes games on it, color backlit lcd, awesome non-tinny sounding speaker which you could actually hear and turn up to a decent level and it had compatibility with master system games. Anyone remember the CDX genesis/sega cd combo? Nomad-portable genesis with 2nd controller port!! and rca output... how cool is that? Saturn had a modem, so did genesis in Japan, DC had a built in modem and VMU and VGA support and 1st party fishing controller and seaman microphone!!!! This stuff should be standard equipment on all new consoles. Sonic+Knuckes with lock on technology let you play new character in your old sonic games.... master system had the awesome 3d goggles. yeah 32 x was a letdown...and they shouldn't have released it.. and what about PSO... 1st online Console rpg... looks like they'll be 2 years ahead of any other console in that respect and the next one will probably be PSO on GC. Sega's been quite a leader and innovative with hardware.... sometimes they didn't make the right descisons(saturn was innovative 2d wise but missed the 3d boat) but dreamcast was WAAY ahead of it's time in functionality, design and with a very high % of quality AAA titles... what about the headphone jack on the genesis? why don't we see that anymore? Cuz everyone likes to cut corners these days... what about their arcade games? Sega's come up with many games that are usually imitated... wasn't it great that naomi and DC were the virtually the same board allowing near perfect ports? yeah there was a ps arcade board but there weren't that many games produced on it.
      enuff for now....props to Nintendo and Namco and other innovative game developers just making shure Sega gets some respect...

    6. Re:You are nuts right? by Snodgrass · · Score: 1

      Ah...Typing of the Dead...nothing makes you type faster than knife throwing zombies.

      I swear my typing speed doubled mere minutes after downloading the demo. :^)

    7. Re:You are nuts right? by zootread · · Score: 0

      In any case, what did Sega ever put out that was that original? Phantasy Star 1 (Sega Master System). Every Phantasy Star after that was distinctly different and had some cool new feature (PS4's macros were extremely cool). Zaxxon.. Wonderboy.. Fantasy Zone.. The entire Shinobi series. There's plenty more, I'd have to open up my boxes and look. However I like Nintendo, too of course. They keep using the same characters over and over again, but their games are really good! Capcom does the same thing, look at the Street Fighter games, Marvel vs Capcom and other crossover fighters, Super Puzzle Fighter II.. all great games with the same characters. Sega on the other hand, doesn't seem to recycle characters as much. I think its because none of their characters every grew really popular. There's Sonic, but after Sonic Adventure 1 came out and it sucked, no one cared about him anymore. But with Nintendo, everyone will always love Mario, Luigi, Link, etc. Just like with Capcom everyone loves all the original Street Fighter 2 characters. So why would they want to change things up?

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    8. Re:You are nuts right? by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

      You are right - Sega as a publisher has done alright (their HW on the other hand - the gamegear sucked (blurry and ate batteries - hardly a good *portable* system, genesis was rushed, sega cd wasn't exploited, saturn was a bad judgement call - Dreamcast rocked nads but was poorly marketed and the games are very fragile I hear) - I think more of what I meant was that Nintendo may recycle characters, but when they do, the games are still unique.

      And I was going to buy Typing of the Dead for my gf to get her practicing :) So I should probably just shut my mouth :) hehe

      In any case, it was the whole "finish #2 ahead of X-box thing" comment in the parent that I find the funniest, because I honestly can't think of any XBox games that were that innovative (other than ports/remakes like Jet Set Radio Future or Tony Hawk 3)

      For the record, I'm not trolling by ragging on Sega - they just made too many mistakes in the HW arena

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    9. Re:You are nuts right? by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      Heh, Earthbound.... now there's something I want to see a sequel of :] It was very wierd, but very fun...

    10. Re:You are nuts right? by tapin · · Score: 1
      Errrm, Mario Tennis preceded it.



      Virtua Tennis: July 11, 2000

      Mario Tennis: August 29, 2000


      And I won't bother debating how superior Virtua Tennis was as a game.

    11. Re:You are nuts right? by mobets · · Score: 1

      I think Vertual boy would have been a lot better if it had a strap to hold it to your head, insted of having to hold your head to it. Also, it was just a little ahead of it's time. The technology just wasn't there to make a high quality display relitively cheap.

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    12. Re:You are nuts right? by dyslexia · · Score: 0

      I think he meant mario tennis on the virtual boy. It's the only game I remeber wal mart having on display for it.

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    13. Re:You are nuts right? by GospelHead821 · · Score: 2

      There actually were sequels to Earthbound. The SNES sequel was called "Mother II" but was never released in the United States. There was also a sequel planned for the N64, but it go the axe. So I don't think you're going to get a sequel. Although I agree with you, it'd be a wonderful thing. Earthbound is a definitive RPG, in my eyes. It combines great gameplay with a plot that does NOT take itself seriously. I mean, how can you not like a bad guy that taunts you with 'spankety spankety spankety'?

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    14. Re:You are nuts right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tennis for Intellivision beated it. :)

    15. Re:You are nuts right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i beleave the parrent was talking about mario tenis for the VirtualBoy, remember, the 32 bit system that died faster then the Sega 32X?

    16. Re:You are nuts right? by Ziffy · · Score: 1

      Actually, the SNES sequel Mother 2 *was* Earthbound. It was Mother 1, for the NES, that was never released in the US. It was translated, however, and the English ROM can be found on emulation sites.

  28. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You havent played Mario on the N64 or Zelda ont he N64 have you? They were right on par and just as fun as the originals! Thats all Nintendo cares about: FUN. Obviously you havent tried the Gamecube yet.. Go grab it and pick up SSMB. Good times..

  29. Glad to See These Announced by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 1

    I'm glad to see these projects near completion. I've been looking forward to all three of those big name ones for a while now, since I love my GameCube.

    I'm wondering how Nintendo will choose to market these. They haven't been terribly aggressive (at least in my neck of the woods) about even their high-profile games.

    In a way, I kind of enjoy this. Let Sony and M$ duke it out with PR and hype. Nintendo has a massive fan base with games that harken back to most of our childhoods. They aren't going anywhere and they don't have to sacrifice game quality for early releases and massive marketing to stay in our minds when we choose a video game platform.

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  30. The new Metroid by weird+mehgny · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry to say that the previews of Metroid Prime so far have made me quite disappointed.

    The game looks just like any average first person shooter. IMO it doesn't even get up to par with recent shooters - the models and animation are lame and on average the graphics seem just dull.

    Also, none of the feeling and atmosphere from the old Metroids (essentialy Super Metroid) seem to be preserved. Yeah, this is hard to judge from visuals only, but 1) in my taste, these graphics just don't set the mood and 2) in my taste, the music sucks badly.

    Beat me for being backwards, but I think there's a general problem with converting a concept such as Metroid from 2D to 3D. I know Nintendo already did a wonderful job with this with their Mario and Zelda series, but it seems to me that Retro Studios, while probably making a decent game in the end, somehow hasn't managed to get the special thing out of it. It takes more effort than just copying the character and recycling a trademark. Maybe Nintendo would've made a better job if they made the game themselves? I don't know.

    Well, the Metroid atmosphere and gameplay is at least for me something very special and I have my doubts that Metroid Prime will make it.

    1. Re:The new Metroid by SirSlud · · Score: 2

      Ah no, not a 'good ol days' post!

      Metroid looks to me like it will retain the atmostphere, but I maintain that the true thing of Nintendo games is that they are massive adventures that pull you in and wont let go. The atmosphere is crucial to the second-to-second experience, but IMHO, its the adventures, stories, and familiar characters that keep me coming back from more.

      Call me a loser, but I really feel like I've accomplished a massive task when I finish a metroid or zelda game. Other huge games may have the atmosphere and flash down pat, but I rarely give a shit about the character and story. To me, thats the Nintendo Difference (well, and the polish. NOBODY polishes like Nintendo.)

      I'm not sure Retro will fuck Metroid up. Remember, we've seen the action bits, but tons of the Metroid experience is about travelling, discovering, looking, etc. Details are thin, but this kind of experience looks to be preserved in Metroid Prime, even if it's not the kind of stuff you'd show in your 10 second vidcaps. :)

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    2. Re:The new Metroid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently went searching for a good N64 side scrolling game to buy and ended up just playing a ROM of the Super Metroid for the SNES. There is something about a side scrolling game that FPSs cant compete with. A first person shooter loses a lot of the movement and jumping, while gaining an emphasis on shooting accuracy. I guess I just prefer to jump around SNES style. I was very dissapointed when I found out the Castlevania games for N64 were fp and I am even more dissapointed now finding that Metroid for the GC is fp.

    3. Re:The new Metroid by Ziffy · · Score: 1

      Have you seen the latest movies? The game looks great to me, it looks like it'll be worthy of the name Metroid. Also, the control is quite different from your average FPS. It has an autotargeting system, so the emphasis is more on exploration and less on aiming. The controls, from what I hear, are pretty similar to the N64 Zeldas. It really doesn't seem like it'll be much like any FPS I've ever played.

      And if you really want 2D, there's still Metroid Fusion.

  31. Monkey Ball 2! by dimer0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I'm waiting for is Monkey Ball 2..

    Sega has the #1 sleeper hit for the gamecube right now.. Monkey Ball is by FAR the best game out for the system. It's got that cute-Nintendo-like-appeal. Extremely addicting. My buddies stop over and chuckle when I suggest we play Monkey Ball over Halo, GTA3, etc -- and then 5 hours later when we finish our last game of Monkey Target and can't hold our eyes open any more, it's time to put it away..

    1. Re:Monkey Ball 2! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. I guess the new one has everyone the old one had (which is awesome that they kept it) and even more party games, so its going to rock.

    2. Re:Monkey Ball 2! by SirSlud · · Score: 2

      Amen brother. Monkey Ball 2 is definately going to blow up the spot, and will likely go down as one of the best party games ever. I'm eargerly waiting ... I'd take MonkeyBall over Halo any day! (I don't get Halo fans .. decent game, but FPSes on mouse-less systems will always be 2nd to the PC)

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    3. Re:Monkey Ball 2! by howlingfrog · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't exactly call it a "sleeper hit." Sleeper maybe, but not hit. It's a lot of fun, but it's not selling well at all. There's a reason it's only $25--you and the other three people who already own it are the only ones who realize it's worth buying.

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    4. Re:Monkey Ball 2! by awol · · Score: 1

      and then 5 hours later when we finish our last game of Monkey Target and can't hold our eyes open any more, it's time to put it away

      See, your mother always told you that spanking the monkey would make you go blind. So yes, it is time to "put it away".

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  32. that got me thinking by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

    I thought of eyes, and I thought of how hand-eye coordination has to do with aim, and I thought I better quit thinking

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  33. Re:...for a second there I thought this was 1 game by edrugtrader · · Score: 3, Insightful

    actually they already did just that in super smash bros.

    basically every nintendo character ever made is in there.

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  35. Re:Are you a member of NAMBLA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you smoking? It looks friggen AWESOME. I think yer just pissed because a lot of people resented the look at first and hoped like hell it would bomb so the PS2/XBox camp could thumb their noses and it failed. Too bad, boyo. The game will simply own anything on any console.

  36. They are all in a game - with DK and Ganon and ... by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

    It's called Super Smash Bros Melee ^_^

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  37. Sounds like you outgrew games.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to see you go.. If you think any of those Nintendo games are dull then you definately outgrew them. And no, Zelda on the N64 was excellent and met its mark in sales. Oh well, at least there is some kid left in me who could play metroids and zeldas for the end of time.

  38. Earthbound (Mother 2) == X-Files by Ramuh · · Score: 0

    the parallels are countless!
    giygas... bmf from 10 years in the future wants to bring bad crazed aliens to the world
    crazy aliens (a la x-files) take control of important (well, and unimportant) people through the use of the evil mani-mani statue. um... x-files aliens are just damn persuasive.
    damn
    this made sense 10 minutes ago

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  39. FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about time, I thought I was the only one that couldn't stand the design of the Gamecube controller, and the GBA has dubiouslly designed controls as well... the buttons and crosspad are just too small as if it was designed with a 5 year old in mind- wait... that's their target audience... Big N needs to address adult gamers... I'm 29 how about they release 'Adult' versions of their consoles... ya know with comfortable controlers... tasteful colors etc... the panasonic Q looks awesome and can play dvd as well as gamecube games.... hopefully Big N will be releasing a backlit GBA cuz the current lcd is just too dark to enjoy most games without an external light source...but we know that big N's #1 priority is maximizing profit... the only way big n will address the 'adult' gamer is if it doesn't jeopardize it's kids business and they can make substantially more profit than they currently are otherwise they don't care if their controller sucks or their machine looks like Barbie's pastel tissue box. Sony has the adult market and I'm guessing quite a bit of the kids market as well. Hmm the xbox probably appeals more to the pc market... well those that can stomach buying and using a ms product anyway... I'm betting the average xbox owner probably is an adult and rather technically adept.. meaning they've been around pc's games for a long time. I've read that SEGA did great in the early 90's cuz it's fanbase was composed of more fanatical gamers that would buy about 5x as many games as the averave Nintendo fan would... so if the average Nin gamer buys 3 games a year the Sega gamer bought 15 and was also probably much older.. since they had the cash to buy those games as well. Out of the 3 current systems, I really don't see any that I can get fanatical about yet... maybe if the ps2 had less jagged graphics, 4 controller ports, built in modem and hd and addictive online and offline games, I'd be pretty stoked about it.... but as I see it I'll probably be picking up a Cube one the games build critical mass... right now the selection is kinda sparse... metroid might be alright .... it's another fps... like we need another one of these's... usually big n is a little inovative... why did they have to jump on the fps bandwagon? They already have Perfect Dark... If I wanted to play a FPS, I'll play SOF II on my pc... I don't want half-assed fps metroid on my cube...I want 2d/3/d hybrid side scrolling action....
    My 2 cents....

  40. It used to look awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in the first movies they showed. I guess I should have know the GC would not be able to make a game look as good as their initial movies lied about. By comparison, GC Zelda is definitely gay looking. I would feel dirty playing it...if I could stand to. They should have let capcom do this one.

    1. Re:It used to look awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didnt look at the trailers. They have surpassed the original Zelda-demo look you refer to. Metroid alone shows us that. Eat it XBox sucker!

  41. I'm playing MOrrowind right now by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 3, Funny

    And I can't stop.

    I just can't stop. It's not fair. Don't buy it, you will never stop playing.

    I never owned an N64 (no RPG's, bought a PSX) and regretted it - I love RPG's but I prefer the PC ones myself. Unfortunately, the console RPG's tend to be of the Fight/Level/Talk/Repeat, although it is nice when somebody introduces some new elements - my favourite console rpgs I played recently were Lufia 2 and Golden Sun (a bit generic and short, but the puzzles were ok, if a bit easy). But now I just play Morrowind.

    Damn Morrowind has stolen my life. And I gave up DAoC to get into less addictive games. Oh well.

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  42. 3D? ARGH! by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 1

    Is it just me or are some of these new 3D games not quite as fun as their predecessors. I loved Super Mario Bros. I remember people lined up at the arcade to play it. A lot of these new 3D renditions just don't seem as interesting to me. I rented Frogger for the PS2 a while back and I couldn't stand it. :(

    Oh well, out with the old and in with the new I suppose. Just because the new consoles CAN handle 3D doesn't necessarily mean every game should be 3D does it?

  43. oops by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

    I replied to the wrong parent.

    STUPID STUPID STUPID

    I'm killing time at work, can you tell? :)

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  44. Cell-shaded Zelda by L-Train8 · · Score: 2

    The knock on this game is that it has a "kiddie" look to it. I was worried that might be the case, but after seeing the game in action, I'm glad to say it works.

    It does have a semi-cartoony look to it, but I don't think it detracts from the game. Previous Zelda games have had what I would consider "kiddie" looks to them. Even Ocarina of Time made link look more like a little kid than an elf. What's been great about the Zelda series is the game play, which is deep and engrossing.

    Playing the new game, you quickly get caught up in it, and the cell-shaded look just works. It hasn't been overused enough yet to be cliche (although it's getting close), and it fits pretty well with the Zelda franchise. And, after seeing screen shots, you think I'm an idiot, I'd advise you to hold off on your judgement. The screen shots don't do it justice. Before I got my hands on the game, they weren't convicing me, either.

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    1. Re:Cell-shaded Zelda by edwdig · · Score: 2

      That's because Link *is* a kid. If you check your manuals, Zelda 2 starts on Link's 16th birthday. I don't know the time gap, but Zelda 1 had the same Link, but a few years earlier.

      Zelda 3 was a different link, but same age area. GB Zelda was right after it.

      The Link of the N64 games was a kid, though I don't think they gave an exact age. For part of Ocarina of Time Link was an adult though (7 years older).

      So, in short, Link looked like a kid because he was one.

    2. Re:Cell-shaded Zelda by Aexia · · Score: 2

      Personally, I'm still hoping that the cel-shaded Zelda and the "ultra-realistic" in the original Zelda movie are part of the same game... just part of the Dark and Light world respectively.

  45. Another story about E3 plus Mario screenshot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can be found here at CNN.

  46. Nintendo Artistry against Xbox Billion$ by donnacha · · Score: 1


    I've been thinking about the essential difference between Nintendo and the Xbox and it seems to me that the most important difference is the most abstract one.

    Up until now I've been focused on the point-to-point technical/marketing/economic comparisons.

    I saw Nintendo's lower price as being cancelled out by the lack of DVD, and gave the Xbox the edge on the grounds that it's online capability was going to add an extra layer of addictivity to it's games.

    Now, though, with the release of these titles, memories of the awesome absorbtion I've felt when playing earlier Mario's and Zeldas are flooding back...

    ..and suddenly it occurs to me that the extra dimension I expect Microsoft's billion dollar Online infrastructure to provide already exists in (some) Nintendo games, through the sheer artistry of their creators.

    While it isn't hard to imagine the fun of a properly managed, manificently pinged, global gaming arena (and if your imagination is running a bit slow today this promotional video spells it out pretty effectively), it's almost impossible to describe the magical web that the last couple of Zelda games wove around their players.

    Of course, there is still the longer-term consideration of the Xbox's extended functionality that MS is anxious to keep under wraps for now.

    For me, at least, there's now only one course of action: I'm going to buy the Game Cube (and as many of these games as I can afford), and the Xbox as soon as they start bundling the headset.

  47. Product Placement in a Mario Bros. Game by guttentag · · Score: 2
    It's finally happened:
    Features
    • Restore the power of Shine to keep the island clean.
    • Wash away island mess to restore the community to its pristine condition using Mario's new water pump device.
    Mario fights evil with a bottle of Windex!
  48. It's Mario Kart (WITH A K) by nickyj · · Score: 1

    and it's coming just it's the first item on the future release list!!!!

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  49. Challenge for Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make a 3-d Castlevania that doesn't suck ass. Take a look at Devil May Cry...that is what Castlevania 3d should have been.

    1. Re:Challenge for Nintendo by XBoyAdv · · Score: 1

      Man, Konami owns the Castlevania series not Nintendo.

  50. Play GameBoy Advance :) by Yam-Koo · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of classic-style games on there :)

  51. Re:...for a second there I thought this was 1 game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, somehow they made the Battletoads/Double Dragon game.

    Remember that craziness?

  52. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by Zeio · · Score: 1

    I only wisht he would revive KID ICARUS, and Life Force, and BIONIC COMMANDO. Man, these games had some nice formulas. How about 1945 again?

    I like the retro 2D stuff from Nintendo.

    Anyone else remember Sword of Vermillion (SEGA)?

    The new metroid looks cool, but I long for some 2D retro. Super Metroid is top 5 games for me.

    I have to got buy GTA III for the PC, right now, but if enough of the retro themed stuff comes out, I'll get a game cube.

    Oh, and a Kid Nikki would be nice. And maybe another 2D castlevania.

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  53. Not Innovative by krmt · · Score: 2

    Innovative is perhaps the wrong word. I think "daring" is a little better. Sure, these are proven technologies, but this is a company with well-loved brands, and the fact that they are pushing them in new directions shows that they aren't stale.

    And if you don't think that this is daring, witness then sound and fury directed at Nintendo for making Metroid an FPS and Zelda cell-shaded. They are risking things people know and love and trying to push them in directions that, while not totally new, are new for these particular products.

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  54. Put the credit card down... by dmr · · Score: 1

    Launch dates:
    Mario: August
    Metroid: November
    Zelda: February 2003

    Maybe I'll invest in some other diversion for the summer and pick up a $100 GameCube around Christmas.

  55. If video game consoles were comic books.... by mblase · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...GameCube would be Marvel: continuously re-introducing old popular titles in the hope that old fans with new incomes will buy them and restore the company's fortunes.

    ...Sega would be Image: beautiful graphics time after time, but slow to realize that's not enough to keep them from crashing and burning.

    ...Sony would be Vertigo: late to the party, but chock-full of great stories with some truly radical, if not entirely beautiful, graphics.

    ...Microsoft would Dark Horse: rather than creating anything great on their own, buy up everyone else's popular ideas and market the hell out of them.

    1. Re:If video game consoles were comic books.... by Jebediah21 · · Score: 2

      but who would be Valiant, the company with the best stories but mediocre graphics?

      Maybe I'm just a nutcase (as time goes on I feel more and more that way), but I'll take engaging story / gameplay over FX / graphics any day. I get a lot of heat because I don't play games like Soldier of Fortune. Give me an Atari 2600 over a GameCube anyday.

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    2. Re:If video game consoles were comic books.... by phong3d · · Score: 1
      ...Give me an Atari 2600 over a GameCube anyday.

      Really? That's kind of a boilerplate assessment. I'd take Super Monkey Ball over ET any day of the week. Of course, I'd also take Adventure over Wrestlemania X8, so I guess I agree with you on principle in some cases :).

  56. GBA- Chopped liver? by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

    You want 2d gaming goodness, the GBA is your haven. It took ten years, but the good old days are back. New castlevanias, new zeldas, and new metroid. And just so you know, Super Mario DX is a top seller on gbc, and the super mario advances also do very well compared to the rest. So, do kids think its lame?

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    1. Re:GBA- Chopped liver? by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 2

      That's definitely good. You can probably guess I'm not huge into games these days so I haven't been keeping up with all of it.

      Still, a majority of games are 3D... I wonder if that trend will continue, or if there will be a resurge in 2D popularity once 3D has reached its "limits"? I could imagine it being analogous to painting. Ever since things could captured perfectly as photos, there has been an increase in abstract paintings. Could be an interesting thing.

      mark

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    2. Re:GBA- Chopped liver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that, but with the TV de Advance you can play those great 2D gameboy games on your TV in your living room, just like the old days.

  57. Is it enough? by PK_ERTW · · Score: 1
    A lot of people seem to think that the Gamecubes days are numbered. I will save the inevitable reply and just quote the Acts of Gord article myself.

    What I want to know is do you think this is enough to save the cube? Where are they going now?

    I have always thought it is gonna succeed anyway, but I have read enough of other peoples opinions to at least admit the possibility that it will fail. But the new games that people have been waiting for are now being hyped and are coming real soon. I think this will help it a lot.

    The average person may only buy one system per generation, but us "average users" that grew up with Nintendo are getting a lot older now, and have perfectly good jobs. PS2's are good, I won't take anything away from that, but $150 to have a second systems doesn't seem that unreasonable. For me, these are the exact announcements I have been waiting for to go out and buy a Gamecube. Also the price drop has provided further incentive for parents to choose the Cube for their kids.

    Comments? PK

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    1. Re:Is it enough? by Daetrin · · Score: 1
      The average person may only buy one system per generation, but us "average users" that grew up with Nintendo are getting a lot older now, and have perfectly good jobs. PS2's are good, I won't take anything away from that, but $150 to have a second systems doesn't seem that unreasonable. For me, these are the exact announcements I have been waiting for to go out and buy a Gamecube. Also the price drop has provided further incentive for parents to choose the Cube for their kids.

      Gord seems to think that just because traditionally the average gamer only bought one console that that is the way it will always remain.

      When i first got started on games I bought (convinced my parents to get me for christmas, whatever) a NES. The next year i got a Sega Master System. I played the NES a lot, the Sega almost zero, so the next generation i just got a SNES and didn't bother with the Sega.

      However after getting a N64 for generation #3 i was eventually "forced" to get a PSX for the purpose of playing FF7. Having bought that second console, i ended up buying a lot of games for both systems. Having had that experience i figured that for the next generation buying more than one console would be a matter of course.

      I'm a geek, so i'm ahead of the curve, but i think that there _is_ a curve, and there are others following along behind me.

      Video gaming has now grown to be larger than the movie industry. There ar commercials for video games all over the place and new console information and E3 are now front page items for news agencies.

      I'm willing to bet that there are a lot of people out there with a PS2 who are looking at the GameCube and XBox and thinking about getting more than one console this time, especially as some of the big titles start coming out this year.

      If the market didn't evolve we'd still all be playing on Atari systems or something like that.

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  58. 3% GNU software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Just curious, but how do you come to that figure?
    • based on size of executable/library binaries
    • based on lines of source code
    • based on a count of files
    • something else?


    Thanks!
    1. Re: 3% GNU software? by jx100 · · Score: 1

      It could be volume or weight.

  59. About time! by LowneWulf · · Score: 1

    I've been waiting for a new Metroid for far far too long.

    Beating Super Metroid over and over again to shave those 2 minutes off my time just doesn't get me off anymore. I was disappointed as hell when there wasn't a Metroid for the 64.

    Those who doubt the possibilities of an FPS, think to Mario 64, which was perhaps the most amazing gameplay of a 3d game ever.
    The grapple hook will be hella nauseating.
    And the screw attack... whee! And what shooter allows you to freeze hovering enemies to use them as stepping stones?

    Long as they retain the difficulty level of the original Metroid - Super Metroid is too easy.

  60. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by Hercynium · · Score: 2

    Hear, hear! Just thinking about this makes me want to start coding... Anybody want to pool money for a GC development kit??? ;)

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  61. Another connection to the Alien movie series? by PaRaFLeX · · Score: 1

    From nintendo.com:
    Now, Samus is once again called to investigate Space Pirate activities on the unexplored Tallon IV. Her adventure begins as she enters a mysterious derelict spaceship.

    The Metroid games have shown a lot of similarities in story line/plot elements to the Alien movies, as outlined nicely on this site. However the mentioning of a mysterious derelict spacecraft immediately brought to mind the abandoned ship which housed the eggs in the original Alien, which was even referred to as a derelict spacecraft in its sequel, Aliens.

  62. Gamespot Impressions by bryanbrunton · · Score: 3, Informative


    What you really want is the Gamespot impressions from guys who have actually played these games:

    Impressions

    Perhaps its best the Zelda comes out next year. More time for Metroid and Mario.

  63. Re:3D is cheap... by SkyLeach · · Score: 2

    It used to be hard and expensive, but with the libraries and graphics cards doing most of the work in 3D, writing a game in 3D is far easier. All you need to do now as a designer is:

    1.) Design Models
    2.) Design skeletal deformation scripts. (walk, run, jump, duck, roll)
    3.) Write the game code.
    4.) release the game title.

    and if you want it to run on another system
    5.) port the game code, and patch the few dissimilar graphics functions between machines.

    It used to be that to build a game you had to:
    1.) design models
    2.) design skeletal deformations for all movements.
    3.) render all movements and make dib sequences or some other indexed pre-rendered graphics sequences.
    4.) write your own scene renderer for whatever format your game will follow.
    5.) work out all the ugly crap that doesn't flow well.
    6.) patch a cruddy game engine on top of your game 'cause your budget is now gone.

    Then you had to go and trash everything if you wanted to do things better.

    Now the market is flooded with people wanting you to use their 3D engine. They write all the graphics stuff and tweak it for library xyz which in turn is tweaked to run really well on xyz chip. Leaves the game developers free to design and build a better game.

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  64. McFakie by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

    I really wish these titles would have been release titles, or maybe at the very least come out a little sooner than February. My GC doesn't have all that many worthwhile games out for it right now. Rogue Leader was fun for a bit, Luigi's Mansion got old fast, as did Crazi Taxi and Sonic. Super Smash Brothers is awesome and the best game I've played on the GC so far because Ihaven't gotten my hands on Monkey Ball yet and I hear it is just as addicting. The next title besides these I'm on the look out for is Clone Wars which looks like it will be pretty sweet to play.

    Had Mario, Link, and Samus been in the initial wave of titles for the GC I think it probably would have sold even more units than it did. The classic Nintendo characters are franchises the XBox simply doesn't have and the playstation took several years to develop. I've played Metroid so many times I can hum the music to it on command. It disappointed me after getting my GC that some of the first games I had on my original Nintendo were going to take so long to get to it. The first Nintendo I got was the version with R.O.B and the light gun. From the get go I had Super Mario Brothers, Duck Hunt, and Gyroscope. Soon after I got Metroid and Kid Icarus which are two games I longed for on the N64 after I bought it off eBay. Zelda of course dominated a good deal of my time, I've got gold cartridge versions of both Zelda 1 and 2 lying around somewhere. I'm hoping these titles which have been in the works for a while turn out to be as entertaining as the originals. I thought Nintendo did a good job with Zelda 3 and Super Metroid on the SNES because for a while both games dominated my free time and cut into some of my sleep. While i would have hoped they came sooner I know three things I'm sticking on my wish list of nostalgic things.

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    1. Re:McFakie by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      Had Mario, Link, and Samus been in the initial wave of titles for the GC I think it probably would have sold even more units than it did.

      Well, Nintendo has sold very nearly every Gamecube made. I don't think they could sell many more than that, regardless of the titles out for it. :)

      --Jeremy

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  65. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by colmore · · Score: 2

    There is a Bionic Commando sequel for GBC, which plays just fine on GBA. It's cool and fun.

    There's going to be a new Super Metroid style Metroid for GBA coming out in the next year.

    A new 2D Castlevanaia was one of the better release titles for GBA, I highly reccomend it.

    They're coming out with a port of Yoshi's Island.

    I agree about Kid Icarus and Life Force, though. Also it would be mad rad if Capcom would release Megaman 2, 3, X, and X2 for GBA.

    And Super Streetfighter, my god, that game Ruled. but I guess there wouldn't be enough buttons.

    The real question is if Square could release FFIV, FFVI, Secret of Mana, and Chrono Trigger for the GBA. I would be *first* in line for any of those titles, especially CT.

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  66. Re:SUCCULENT BEER-BATTER PERSON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Serves one or two.

  67. Zeldamon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or does Link now look like a pokemon character with a green hat?

    *Flush* goes the Zelda franchise.

  68. Nintendo - The next SEGA by qurob · · Score: 1


    Next round up, they'll say screw making consoles, and just make software....

    1. Re:Nintendo - The next SEGA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupid Xbox fanboy... Go away and worship you Evil God.

  69. Legend of Zelda by Link-chan · · Score: 1

    The new Zelda looks much better than I thought it would be. The gameplay looks amazing! The "new look" actually doesn't even look that bad. I actually think now that the cel shading will end up making it a better game.

  70. Zelda... by DraKKon · · Score: 1

    Doesn't the game summary for Zelda seem... well STUPID?

    The latest Legend of Zelda adventure begins with young Link living a peaceful life on a tiny island. One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing bird that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link sailing the high seas and searching for answers to the mystery behind her disappearance.


    I'm sorry.. but this just seems so lame.. weak story.. :( I LOVED the zelda series.. I spent countless hours plaing the games.. Thats one reason why I loved the GB pokemon games... just like the first Zelda game... but this POS looks horrid. :(

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    1. Re:Zelda... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, it's no worse than The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (DX)...

      In that one, link had been sailing and was caught in a storm, and washed up onto a mysterious land, with amnesia. Turned out the whole island only existed because of a fucking fish in a big birds egg dreaming. Now that my friend, is a lame lame lame story.

    2. Re:Zelda... by Decimal · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Doesn't the game summary for Zelda seem... well STUPID?

      No surprize there. The summaries for the two N64 Zelda games were about as appealing.

      I'm sorry.. but this just seems so lame.. weak story.. :( I LOVED the zelda series.. I spent countless hours plaing the games.. Thats one reason why I loved the GB pokemon games... just like the first Zelda game... but this POS looks horrid. :(

      They've been kidifying TLOZ since the SNES. Cute graphics, friendly witches, fat fairies, flying with roosters, talking animals, summoning scarecrows, singing frogs, sword-or-baseball-bat?, obligatory mini-games and races, fishing, silly masks and so on. Ech. How did they come up with this crap? "Heck, let's give link an uncle here and a sister there. And let's throw in Mario and Luigi, kids like them. We can't come up with decent plots anymore, so we'll add "dark worlds", time travel and morphing capabilities. We can't count, so let's give the Octorocks four legs." Ugh. The list goes on and on. And link just keeps getting younger. Call me crazy, but I can't picture a 5-year old hacking his way through legions of the undead. I haven't seen pictures of the newest one, but they might still be using the GameCube's "cartooning engine". Have mercy already! The few good elements that were added are massively outnumbered by the bad.

      I still play and treasure the first two Zelda games. But for me, The Legend of Zelda began to die at the 3rd sequel. It was a hideous, bloated corpse by 5.

      Thanks a lot Nintendo.

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    3. Re:Zelda... by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      Dude, you think too much about your video games. Just play them and have fun. If you're really bothered by cheezy stories, what are you doing playing video games in the first place?

      I still play and treasure the first two Zelda games. But for me, The Legend of Zelda began to die at the 3rd sequel. It was a hideous, bloated corpse by 5.

      This is just sad. I pity anyone who's developed a mindset that won't allow them to enjoy games like these. It's like saying that you don't/didn't like the muppets because they're all just stuffed animal puppets. It's *so* much more than that if you allow yourself to see it.

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    4. Re:Zelda... by Decimal · · Score: 2

      Dude, you think too much about your video games. Just play them and have fun. If you're really bothered by cheezy stories, what are you doing playing video games in the first place?

      You're assuming all games are "cheezy". I played Zelda for the adventure, intrigue and mystery. When I want to play a fun, comedic game I pull out Earthworm Jim or Super Mario 64. The Legend of Zelda doesn't fall into that category. I'm talking about a wonderful game series that got worse with every release. The first two Zelda games were wonderful adventures. Then the cheeze started to appear. If you never experienced the joy of originals first I suppose you might think the silly stuff was an essential element of the series.

      This is just sad. I pity anyone who's developed a mindset that won't allow them to enjoy games like these. It's like saying that you don't/didn't like the muppets because they're all just stuffed animal puppets. It's *so* much more than that if you allow yourself to see it.

      I actually like the Muppets. What I don't like is seeing a legend in gaming dragged through the mud. Here's an analogy: You're playing DOOM III, everything is dark and spooky and perfectly violent, and then you enter a room and are treated to a FMV sequence where a cheerful Barney the Dinosaur enters and hands you a vase full of yellow flowers, sings a song and then moves merrily on his way before you're allowed to play again. If this bothers you, would you consider yourself to have developed a mindset that doesn't allow you to enjoy the game? I think that any DOOM fan deserves pity if something like that wouldn't bother them.

      Singing frogs just don't fit into the Legend of Zelda.

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    5. Re:Zelda... by morgajel · · Score: 1

      no offense to final fantacy fans, but I've noticed game makers are spending more time on stories and less on playablility.
      lets think about this for a moment.

      what was the storyline for :
      mario.... a plumber got sucked down a drain to another world to save a princess that was captured by a giant turtle/dragon guy.
      zelda.... decent storyline, but exceedingly predictable, save the girl, no plot.

      both were kickass games. the characters are developed just enough stylistically that the storyline doesn't matter anymore. it's the game that matters, and that's why these will succeed.... if your looking for storyline from a plumber and his friends, your outta luck.

      as long as they don't fuckup and make the game boring.

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    6. Re:Zelda... by DraKKon · · Score: 1

      How the fuck is the parent post flamebait?! It'r fricking TRUE!

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    7. Re:Zelda... by Decimal · · Score: 1

      Thank you!

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  71. Castlevania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I'd like to see for the gamecube is NES CV2 multiplied by PSX CV:Symphony of the Night. Bullshit math but that should get the idea across.

  72. who? by CamelTrader · · Score: 2

    I dont remember MarioTM. Who is that?

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  73. Coverage at Gamespot by Lac · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here are a few quick Gamespot coverage links. They contain much more information than the Nintendo links and provide screenshots.

    Metroid Prime hands-on
    Super Mario Sunshine hands-on
    The Zelda title gamespace

  74. Not quite the same... by shr3k · · Score: 1

    One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing bird that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link sailing the high seas and searching for answers to the mystery behind her disappearance.

    I don't know... Trying to save your sister from the clutches of evil just doesn't seem to have the same effect as saving a beautiful, unrelated princess. I mean, unless [insert redneck joke here], don't you want to be able to get with the girl you saved at the end of the game?

  75. Where the rubber hits the road by Paul+Komarek · · Score: 2

    It seems there are many comments of the form "now I have a reason to buy a GameCube". It will be interesting to see if Nintendo's sales really defy the normal trends, and surge instead of levelling off.

    I hate to be a member of the XBox team. Imagine the XBox and the GameCube drag racing down the freeway, the XBox pretty impressed by its own top speed, when suddenly the Cube rolls down his window and says "Hey, buddy, how do get this thing out of second gear?" The Cube then laughs, peels out going from fourth to fifth, and smokes the poor XBox.

    -Paul Komarek

  76. Does Fanboy Dance by Servo5678 · · Score: 2
    [Does the Fanboy Dance]

    This is great news! I just today... today... bought a Gamecube and Super Smash Bros Melee. I just can't put it down. In fact, the only reason I'm on /. right now is because I have to eat dinner.

    I haven't decided on Zelda yet, but from the looks of things Mario and Metroid are must-haves.

    Now, somebody see about getting Bowser his own game.

    1. Re:Does Fanboy Dance by kubrick · · Score: 1

      In fact, the only reason I'm on /. right now is because I have to eat dinner.

      Man, you have some seriously screwed up eating habits.

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    2. Re:Does Fanboy Dance by Servo5678 · · Score: 1

      Well, I eat while reading the news and articles from the day. I'm a major multitasker.

  77. An example of influence by piecewise · · Score: 2

    Nintendo is so influential (at least it was in my life as a kid), that I STILL play Zelda: A Link to the Past on an SNES emulator for my Mac.

    I converted to Playstation when Sega and Nintendo began to fade. Zelda 64, in my opinion, sucked... but I am confident "ZeldaCube" could be pretty good. Will I buy a GameCube to play it? If it brings back the mystery of exploration (like Link to the Past did but 64 did not do as well), I just might actually.

    I love my PS2... but I do miss good ole Nintendo games.

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    1. Re:An example of influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only fanboys calls Zelda64 suck. Nobody can deny its greatness only for those who are envy because their ONLY system does'nt have it. Stupid fanboys...

  78. Mario Sunshine screenshots / videos by cj_cliffe · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's a great collection of screenshots and videos up on the ign website.

    Personally I can't wait for Mario Sunshine.. Mario64 was easily one of the most entertaining games I've ever played and it can only get better from there :-)

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  79. Grab pikmin and be quiet by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    Seriously. Relearn why Miyamoto is so well respected. Then curse because the game is too damn short. Ah well. It certainly is -original-. And fun too.

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  80. Re:Mario Kart by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 0

    Come someone explain why this was marked redundant? Nowhere in the link did it mention Mario Kart and i haven't seen it in the shops (at least not in the UK).

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  81. Diddy kong is NOT Mario Kart. by AltaMannen · · Score: 0

    Mario Kart is great, Diddy Kong Racing is a N64 game and Donkey Kong racing is coming. But No Kong Racing could ever top Mario Kart.

  82. Multiplayer Mario Emulation? by torndorff · · Score: 1

    I know this may be a bit off-topic, but hopefully someone with a bit of programming skills will read it.

    I am a Super Mario Bros addict. I have my NES still, clean and polished; I play almost once a week with a bunch of buddies. Nothing better than sitting around with a ~10 year old 2-d gaming system and jumping on innocent turtles.

    But could someone create a multiplayer Super Mario Brothers? I'm talking team play; more than one Mario, both working together across the internet to defeat the King. It'd be like 2D Counter-Strike!

    Oh, that would be the day.

  83. Rating Pending by unsinged+int · · Score: 1

    Seeking well-deserved rest and relaxation, MarioTM and Princess Peach travel to a beautiful remote island.

    ESRB: RP (Rating Pending)

    Hmmm...

  84. MarioKart Temple!!! w00t another notch! by digitalsushi · · Score: 2


    I am obligated to post a link to the 7 year old 14 year old fanboy-created website from 1995. And given that its 7 years old, dont expect the forms to work!

    HEY! Is anyone here young enough that they dont get the website I am spoofing???

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  85. Lovecraft on a Gamecube - the horror! by WillSeattle · · Score: 2

    I see they have Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem too. Hmm, someone goes to Rhode Island and explores past lives, with sanity levels.

    Sounds Cthulhoid to me ...

    Who says GameCube is just for kids ...

    Now if only they'd do The Sims for the GameCube, my world would be complete!
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  86. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by G-funk · · Score: 2

    And Super Streetfighter, my god, that game Ruled. but I guess there wouldn't be enough buttons

    Super street fighter II is on gba, and I can tell you it's bloody great. Much better than the crappy SNES versions, plays like arcade, but with a few new levels (ken's is cool, guile's is a bit shite)... Highly reccommended.

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  87. Where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Where can I get a free copy of this?

  88. Thanks for the excellent links by |/|/||| · · Score: 1

    Hot Damn 100!

    I just hope that the music in the Zelda trailer is representative of the music in the actual game - since the 'cube is disc based, I don't understand why all games don't have full orchestral soundtracks. No more synthesized junk (except where it's appropriate, of course).

    Metroid for the GBA looks rad, too. I'm looking forward to Metroid Prime, but the effectiveness of the first person perspective is still up in the air. Metroid Fusion, on the other hand, looks like it will provide some classic Metroid goodness.

    Happy.

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  89. Misread at first by tpv · · Score: 1

    From the Mario description: Bask in cheery graphics
    I was sure that said "cheesy graphics"

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  90. FUD like? by line-bundle · · Score: 2

    I have been following the Nintendo Gamecube news for some time. All the big games are far into the future. The release date for Zelda has been pushed back (IIRC this was announced after the price drop). Is Nintendo just trying to stop people from buying PS2, Xbox?

  91. Re-runs by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but whoop-dee-doo, rehash city. These games are fun and all, but when you use them as a crutch like Nintendo has with every damn system they've marketed, it gets old. Ps2? XBox? Dreamcast? Go for it. Nintendo? Unlock the cryo vault and begin thawing Mario 14: Daisy World...

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    1. Re:Re-runs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are still buying them, aren't they?

  92. Rmemeber Space Ace? by roberto0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seeing the preview video of Zelda reminded me of Those old Don Bluth games Space Ace and Dungeons & Dragons. They had comic humor, but more improtantly, they were completely animated (hand-drawn) games. The new Link has the animated look you might see in a cartoon rather than a video game. Even the new Samas Aran looks more stylish than real.

    I like this approach to V/G design. Sacrificing realism for style is definitely something that adds to the replay value of a game. I hate to sound like a Nintendo worshipper, but I think they've hit the nail on the head with these 2.

    And incedentally, if I mysteriously disappear for a few days when these games come out...
    Tell my parents that I'm very very happy :)

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  93. fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it sickens me to see how shortsighted most of the people on here are. i've heard people complain constantly about the lack of titles for the cube. nintendo has always waited a while to ship most of ther flagship games(zelda,metroid,mario kart, ect.) i don't think they'd really want to blow their load all at once, just milk the market a little. plus people don't crap out quality software like the peanuts in your dookie. i don't really hear crabs on here goin "man i wish Id would hurry up with doom3" cause people know they relase their games "when their done."

    even if the storylines for most of ninjendoes games get a little repitive they have always been about on thing, game play.

    so wait and see, i have faith in them(more than sony or M$)

    i'ma leave yall with a short story about my 1st gen playtstation in case any one wonders about my slant on all this:
    i bought a playstation when it first came out waiting for ff7 to come out, much to my dismay it took two years for that sucker to ship and my first gen ps's cdrom was toast by then. the playstation had no decent games for a while. (at least rpgs)

  94. Power-up with phenobarbital by plimsoll · · Score: 1

    Hey, it's-a me! Marshall Applewhite! Castrate-a yourself for a spot on-a Hale-Bopp.

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  95. bowser: secret to true top speed. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    yea, his acceleration sucked balls.
    yea, his cornering sucked balls,
    but his TOP SPEED... now that was
    excellent.

    so master the powerslide and master not
    hitting any walls.... and you are the
    Mario Kart Master!

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  96. It just gets deeper... by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    Wait... This guy gets a "3" for "What I'm waiting for is Monkey Ball 2" ???? No offense to Dimer0, but I'm beginning to swear there's actually a script making these moderations and not a real person... Heck, it would explain some of the articals...

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  97. His greatest adventure? by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    This Mario guy MUST be a virgin if these games represent his greatest adventures...

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  98. Bitterness is a dish served N64 by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    If I were you, i'd be bitter over the N64 as a whole... "But it had Goldeneye!!!" WAHAhahaHAHAHAHahhaahHAHAHAHAHAH !!!

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  99. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by finkployd · · Score: 2

    Kid Icarus, Bionic Commando, Metal Gear, Kung Fu, Metroid, Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy, etc.

    Damn, to go back to those days. I don't think there will ever again be an era of video gaming that was as fun as the early nintendo days. Grahpics sucked, sound sucked, and quite frankly the control usually sucked. That meant the designers couldn't rely on simply cinematic cut scenes, actor voice overs, realistic 3D rendering, and 5.1 surround sound explosions to sell games. They had to make them interesting and fun. With some exceptions, that sure seems to be a lost art today. Video games are a victim of their own technology. How many single player games exist that are worth going through twice, or ten times?

    Contra? Metroid? Zelda? Hell I beat them more times than I care to remember, and had fun doing it each time. As much as I thought it was really cool, I only beat Max Payne once, then sold it. Same with all the recent final fantasy games. There is just no reply value anymore, since the whole point of most games seems to be to get through it to see all the cut scenes, then you are done.

    Oh well, maybe at 23 I'm just past my gaming prime and too old to enjoy today's games. I still love playing them though (through an emulator). And today's multi player games mostly rock. But to go back to the days to great single player games...*sigh*

    Now I'm all depressed. It's time for some Kid Icarus

    *fucking eggplant wizards*

    Finkployd

  100. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by Kirsha · · Score: 1

    "Video games are a victim of their own technology. How many single player games exist that are worth going through twice, or ten times?"

    I guess the Metal Slug series count here. 2D tasty glory, and lots of fun. Specially the 3rd one, gosh, Ive beaten that one like 50 times already, and the 4th game is in the oven! =)

    So there are still some gems out there.

  101. Support Nintende AND Sony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't support Micro$oft. Bring down Xbox! Down with Gates! No to M$!!!

  102. Who in their right mind wants Sony's shit? by RonVNX · · Score: 1

    They can take their DMCA-approved Linux and do you know what with it.

  103. GBA devkit for $300 at LikSang by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Anybody want to pool money for a GCN development kit??? ;)

    Too expensive. You can get a pretty good set of GBA development hardware for under $300 at Lik Sang. Given that you probably already have a Windows computer (and if you don't, get one for $1000 at dell.com), I'll break down what else you need: $110 for a GBA with a pre-installed Afterburner internal light, $40 for an MBV2 cable to test out small (< 128 KB) programs, $100 for a flash cartridge and linker, and in the neighborhood of $30 for S&H from Hong Kong via EMS Speedpost. While you're saving up, you can learn the basics with Devkit Advance (GCC hosted on Windows or Linux and targeted for GBA) and VisualBoyAdvance (emulates the GBA's runtime environment).

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  104. Every Mario Kart release has had bugs by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Mario Cart? Which IMHO is the best racing game ever!

    Except for the dozens of design and implementation bugs in the Mario Kart games. Super Circuit feels the most stable.

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  105. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by Zeio · · Score: 2

    I can still hum most of the music perfectly for almost all the NES games, and the first wave of SNES games. The games today, except things like Hitman or GTA 1,2,3 have minimal replay value. Games that are fun to replay is how much murder can you get away with before you get nailed! Like in any of the games, you could get bigger, better and faster if you were more sklling.

    I remember wall jumping (the door wall ball unball warp trick) in Metroid to get the varia early, or killing lots of things to get the strength arrows faster in KID ICARUS! All neat little tweaks to twink out earlier.

    EGG PLANT WIZARDS! AHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! Those freaks. The best. You had to find the hospital, and you best have a map. Remember you could negotiate the merchants in KID ICARUS with the second controller? Remember the map, torch and pencil? hehehe. The barrels, potions and feathers?

    Rememeber the dungeon music?

    Do deet do deet do deet do deet do deet;

    Doweeey Dooowey dooooowey dewie dewie dewie dewie dewie doooo doooooooooo.

    Doweeey Dooowey dooooowey dewie dewie dewie dewie dewie doooo doooooooooo.

    Dooo, doo! doo... doooooooooo.

    Dooo, doo! doo... doooooooooo.

    Dooooooooo woooooo woooo woooooooooo!

    Dooooooooo woooooo woooo woooooooooo!

    hehehe. I can hum it to date.

    Zelda II was my fav, and the SNES Zelda was awesome. I got so good at Zelda II, well, it was absurd.

    Those games had room for mastery. Few games do today.

    I tried Max Payne. I beat it. No replay value, IMHO. It was good, the best part was his grumpy dialogue in between stuff. ;p

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  106. Rare... by Smid · · Score: 1

    I've been wondering if I'm the only one...

    But I'm waiting for the Rareware games before considering the cube... Mario was ok, but its the sheer billion dollar gameplay of the likes of Goldeneye and Banjo Kazooie which get me...

    (Currently snapping up the old N64 titles, and stuck on level 9 on Banjo Kazooie)...

  107. Indeed! I agree completely! by Juggler+cant+juggle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Beer certainly is one of the best parts of game playing. I'm sure it improves my aim on some games too.

  108. i'm not the first one to say this but... by funkmastermike · · Score: 1

    why does Link look like a powerpuff girl? "Those eyes... Those horrible blue eyes!"

  109. oldest of them all by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1


    Well, I love Virtua Tennis and all (just about the most fun four-person console game I've played), but ya'll know PONG beat all of them to the punch.

    I mean really, what is Virtua Tennis but a fancy-pants version of PONG? ;-)

  110. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by finkployd · · Score: 2

    I figure you would get a kick out of this (if you haven't seen it yet)

    Payne Freeze

    Finkployd

  111. Starfox by YottaMatt · · Score: 1

    Its a shame they've pushed back the release date for the GC Starfox franchise twice already, because it looks like a winner too.

  112. Sounds like a LifeTime movie by shawnmelliott · · Score: 1

    Let's see. Let's make some modifications to the story and then we can make it a lifetime movie

    "Game Summary
    The latest Legend of Zelda adventure begins with young Link living a peaceful life on a tiny island. One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing bird that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link sailing the high seas and searching for answers to the mystery behind her disappearance. "

    now becomes

    Game Summary
    The latest Legend of Zelda adventure begins with young Link living a peaceful life on a tiny suburb. One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing pimp that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her to sell her on the streets of detroit. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link uselessly asking the police for help, hiring a private eye and then finally battling the evil pimp all by himself where the cops come and take the guy away at the end.

    Yep, it's true. Anything can be made into a lifetime movie.

  113. Monkey ball and Melee by shawnmelliott · · Score: 1

    I have both titles and I must say it's hard for me and my wife to decide which we'll play. I still love Rogue Squadron but more or less me and her play Monkey Ball or Melee. The ultimate game for us would be to have the Monkeys in MB fighting in Melee while trying to solve the puzzle of the current level.....

  114. Re:They are all in a game - with DK and Ganon and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Super Smash Bros Melee, is just a remake over Super Smash Bros. Melee is for the Cube, while the old Super Smash Bros is for N64

  115. Jedi Knight 2 by jck9626 · · Score: 1

    hell ya great FPS, should be game of the year! As close to becoming a Jedi as I will ever be!

  116. Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS by Zeio · · Score: 1

    lol dude that was classic, ;p

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