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RTFM = Read the Funny Manual?

coronaride writes: "This article over on Wired discusses the issue near and dear to every sysadmin and support tech's heart. I, myself, never read any manuals that accompany the products I buy (but when does cheese-whiz really need instructions anyways?) unless something majorly goes wrong! The article talks about how some countries, including Japan, try to spice up their product manuals in order to entice the users to read them. Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?"

408 comments

  1. O' Reilly by NewOrder · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    My O'Reilly books, mainly the perl ones have sime good humor and some really bad humor.. They are some of the best book around tho.

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    1. Re:O' Reilly by pi_rules · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think this has alot to do with Larry Wall's influence in the Perl world. His writing is absolutely hilarious to me at points... and I really enjoy reading anything he writes. Granted, most of the humor would fly right over a non-tech's head.

      It's a great idea really... at least I think so. I tend to pay more attention to writing when I'm occasionally hit with a bit of humor. I try and do the same with comments in code and rather mundane updates I may email out to a team I'm working with.

  2. Manual Use by GodInHell · · Score: 2, Funny

    The difference between a Manager and an Engineer; The Manager reads the introduction, the Engineer scans the useful bits. -GiH

    1. Re:Manual Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always read the important bits so I don't miss a feature that could be very useful.

    2. Re:Manual Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AOL user? You must read the manuals.

    3. Re:Manual Use by GodInHell · · Score: 1

      So tell me, is ignorance bliss?

      -GiH

  3. This is not a new idea... by Adrian+Voinea · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apple have been inserting funny stuff in their manuals for ages. And they are the only manuals I've read and enjoyed :)

    1. Re:This is not a new idea... by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's one:

      Technical Note 31 (Clarus the Dogcow)

      Can anyone find a link to the bogus Technical Note which was attributed to Scott Knaster, or the even crazier one he wrote in Macintosh Programming Secrets in response to it? Among other things, it attempted to describe how a program should deal with users upgrading their CPU while the program is running, and the API to a new compression routine called "PackMan" which could compress anything to exactly 4 bytes....

    2. Re:This is not a new idea... by mu_wtfo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mackie (sound reinforcement and processing) is another company who puts some humor in their manuals - the manual for their 1604VLZ mixer, for example is full of material that, while not being laugh-out-loud funny, is also not man-this-is-so-boring-I-want-to-die. The effect of this is that I have actually read the whole thing, cover to cover, and learned a whole lot more about the product than I would have if they had just gone with the standard technical writing standard.

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    3. Re:This is not a new idea... by TheDick · · Score: 1

      "This is the obnoxious flashing red light"

      And the diagrams are always good for a laugh.

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    4. Re:This is not a new idea... by Stackis · · Score: 1
      Apple manuals?

      Oh APPLE!

      There aren't too many "software" manuals for Apple are there?
      :)

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    5. Re:This is not a new idea... by foobar104 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah, the old dogcow tech note. Source of what I consider to be the funniest quote ever:

      Like any talented dog, it can do flips. Like any talented cow, it can do precision bitmap alignment.

      For some reason, hardly anybody else cracks up at this the same way I do. I like to think that this is because everybody else is crazy.

    6. Re:This is not a new idea... by Synopsis+Troll · · Score: 0, Funny
      I agree. I found it hilarious that my OS 9 manual didn't include information about how to enable pre-emptive multitasking or a non-graphical user interface. I found it somewhat less hilarious when I realized that not only were the authors not joking, but there weren't any glaring omissions in the manual. (There were omissions in the OS, though, of course.)

      Thank Jobs that OS X is finally out. It kinda sucks having to use a GUI that brings my 800MHz G4 to its knees, though. And it sort of sucked having to wait two years for a native port of Photoshop. And the GUI is less customizable than MS-DOS. The GUI is also somewhat non-functional -- when it's not wasting CPU cycles with useless animation and morphing effects, it's getting in my way.

      This is why I also have several Windows machines, for when I want to be productive. Windows isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than any Mac OS. Apple is the best competitor that any company could ask for. I'll bet that if Apple went into the petrol business, Enron execs would feel a lot better about themselves.

      Oh well, at least Apple still has its hardware. Sure, it's dreadfully underpowed, and sure, it's horribly overpriced, and sure, Apple ignores open hardware standards in favor or proprietary garbage, and sure, Apple shuns backward compatibility which would allow users to remain productive without upgrading. Oh, wait. I guess the hardware sucks too.

      But they do have the industry's only one-button mouse! And that's the kind of innovation that gets you rememberd.

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    7. Re:This is not a new idea... by zamokzam · · Score: 3, Informative

      The idea is a lot older than Apple. Perhaps 45 or 50 years ago science fiction writer Fred Pohl (poss. collaborating with C.M. Kornbluth) wrote a story in which he/they described how the military of the future spiced up manuals to keep the soldiers' interest: a fairly simple rifle manual, for example, might be illustrated with scantily clad women demonstrating the various features of the rifle; because of its complexity, a tank manual, on the other hand, would be heavily pornographic.

      As well, I seem to recall an excellent topology textbook used at NYU in the 1960s that began with chapter 00 (double-zero), progressed through 0 (zero) and on up, and was quite witty (in the way of all togologists, I suppose).

      And, let us not forget "The ZH Guide" by China Scholar George Kennedy (published by the Far Eastern something or other at Yale?). One would normally expect a manual on a (Classical) Chinese encyclopedic dictionary to be quite dry. But Prof. Kennedy was prone to pose tough questions of his students: why (he might ask) does one commonly used Chinese character for Japanese contain elements meaning "yellow" and "dwarf" . . . I imagine the use of such devices kept his readers' interest (I know they worked for me). But, for some reason, this work seems no longer to be in print.

    8. Re:This is not a new idea... by gaudior · · Score: 2
      Count me in amongs the few, the proud. Scott Knaster's books are still on my shelf, even though they became obsolete ages ago.

      I keep threatening to get out my old IIsi and try to write a little Pascal, just for old times sake.

    9. Re:This is not a new idea... by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      NeXTs are even better. The manuals each have an introduction that is simultaneously zen and hilarious in that rock garden NeXT way. If I can find any of the manuals around, I'll post some snippets in a followup.

      Unfortunately, after they stopped making hardware and became a boring "enterprise-oriented" company, the writing got really dull. It must have been a neat place to be a technical writer for a while, though.

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    10. Re:This is not a new idea... by iocat · · Score: 1
      I remember the manual for an Apple 13-inch monitor that came with my IIcx (yes, I read it) that had a line that said "Be careful with your monitor, but don't be paranoid when you move it, it's not like it's made out of glass... ok, it is, but you know what we mean."

      It was pretty funny.

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    11. Re:This is not a new idea... by ljaguar · · Score: 1

      Here is maybe another.
      These are from the manual of OMF 2097, a kickass fighting game from 1994. Decidely, this isn't the same thing as a manual to a productivity product, but these are funny.

      "Just don't forget the part I played in all this!" - What's his name

      Rob Elem
      "Those aren't compiler warnings, they're _suggestion_."
      "I fixed that at 4:30 this morning"

    12. Re:This is not a new idea... by Teferi · · Score: 2

      Dry and terse, quite. The install guide for NS 3.3, at least, is sleeper material.

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    13. Re:This is not a new idea... by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Yea, the 3.3 is miserable. But at least it comes in five languages. The hardware documentation is where the fun is.

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    14. Re:This is not a new idea... by Teferi · · Score: 2

      Mind a scan or three? My Color Slab came doc-less off eBay.

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    15. Re:This is not a new idea... by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Once I find them, I'll put up a webpage.

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    16. Re:This is not a new idea... by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      This is common knowledge, I guess, but the SGI Indy owner's guide included this warning: Do not dangle the mouse by the cord, or throw the mouse at co-workers.

    17. Re:This is not a new idea... by TheTomcat · · Score: 2

      Heh I was going to mention Mackie, but you beat me to it.

      My favourite is the diagram of "the mating ritual of consenting adult banana plugs"
      (-:

      (for the uninitiated)

      S

    18. Re:This is not a new idea... by delta407 · · Score: 1

      I was going to say the same thing. Mackie manuals are some of the funniest things I have ever read. Things involving pirates, RV parks, and the legal status of blinking lights. Absolutely hilarous.

      Of course, the Mackie boards still bleed too much for my tastes, but oh well.

    19. Re:This is not a new idea... by Decimal+Dave · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or does "The Wrong Way" to draw a dogcow look an awful lot like Bill Atkinson?

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    20. Re:This is not a new idea... by foobar104 · · Score: 2
      Is it just me, or does "The Wrong Way" to draw a dogcow look an awful lot like Bill Atkinson?

      From History of the Dogcow, Part 1, by Mark ("The Red") Harlan:
      There's a picture of the wrong way to draw the dogcow that several people thought was a scanned image of ZZ [Scott Zimmerman]. Actually, completely independently of the Tech Note, I'd been using a program called Mac-a-Mug, designed to make mug shots, and came across a set of hair that looked frighteningly like ZZ's. After fiddling around with the program a bit I was able to come up with a good rendition of ZZ's head, and I shoved it into the Tech Note without his ever knowing about it. The expression (and color) of his face when he learned about the picture is a memory I'll always cherish.
    21. Re:This is not a new idea... by trudyscousin · · Score: 1

      I'd like to offer the funniest piece of 'real' documentation I've ever seen, a Technical Note from long ago. It's drenched in nerd humor. The original date has been removed, though I believe I first saw this particular Note back in 1988 (and it was probably written earlier than that). Apple, sadly, has purged the writing credits from all these early Notes, but I can remember the author's name: "Bo3b" Johnson.

      This note was not only informative for its time, but it was damned funny. And because of its humor, I didn't just skim over it, I found myself savoring every bit of it. And the lessons it held are still with me to this very day. So there probably is a lot to be said for documentation having a sense of humor.

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    22. Re:This is not a new idea... by Dragoness+Eclectic · · Score: 2

      Fred Pohl was merely extrapolating a then-current trend in military manuals. If you've ever seen any WWII or Korean-war era Army manuals, they used a lot of little funny cartoons to illustrate and draw attention to safety issues and correct procedures. I don't think they do that anymore, more's the pity. I still remember the little cartoons reminding artillerymen to set the hydraulic-brace thingies (like backhoes have) before firing the big gun. (If you don't, you get a impromptu demonstration of Newtonian physics = every action has an equal and opposite reaction).

      Also, the camel book was very readable and enjoyable because Wall and Christiansen have a gift for using humor to illustrate a point. I wish more programming manuals were written like that--most put me to sleep in the first chapter.

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    23. Re:This is not a new idea... by spook+brat · · Score: 1
      because of its complexity, a tank manual, on the other hand, would be heavily pornographic.

      I recently heard about a kid in PLDC [1] who "improved" the illustrations for one of the manuals available to the class in exactly this way. According to the story, the kid was a very talented illustrator, so much so that when you looked at the final product it appeared to have been printed that way, not retouched.

      After the audience stopped laughing at the idea, the storyteller reminded all of us that the kid got sent home with paperwork saying that he failed the course, would not be re-admitted, and that his career as a soldier was essentially over. That's the new Army for you.

      [1] Primary Leadership Development Course, the school they send you to before you become a Sergeant

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    24. Re:This is not a new idea... by kchayer · · Score: 2
      "This is the obnoxious flashing red light"

      Yeah, I just noticed the "rude solo light" on a Mackie board I installed downstairs the other day. Makes me smile when I see it...

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    25. Re:This is not a new idea... by Verence · · Score: 1

      This has been a source of entertainment... especially when trying to block out the far too *REAL* rude solos.

      Oh the joys of being a auditorium tech. Never been so critical of performers (I am one as well) in my life.

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    26. Re:This is not a new idea... by Joe+Mucchiello · · Score: 1

      Personally, the technote (I forget the number) on how to catch a penguin is funnier since it is far less appropriate to a computer manual. (I do believe it was written before Linux acquired Tux.) The dogcow actually exists on them old Macs.

  4. American manuals are funny. by SwellJoe · · Score: 5, Funny



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    1. Re:American manuals are funny. by Casca · · Score: 5, Funny

      You better hope IBM doesn't see that post, they'll sue your ass off for copyright infringement.

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    2. Re:American manuals are funny. by toupsie · · Score: 4, Interesting
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      When I worked for Fifth Generation Systems (Fastback, Direct Access & Suitcase), the person in charge of producing manuals used to do this on purpose to "F" with management because they never read the manuals or even knew what the products really did. I guess this is why the company was sold to Symantec for a bargain basement price.

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    3. Re:American manuals are funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Direct Access, as in that really cool DOS menu system? I loved that thing. Just wish I could find a copy out there. Last version I saw was 5.0.

      Ahh.. memories of a DOS lab long since retired...

    4. Re:American manuals are funny. by G-funk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Personally, I love manuals "translated" from chinese/japanese... full of wonderful text.

      1. Tuning of the frequency dial shall ivigorate and give much happy.
      2. Inner peace of power supply please activate
      3. Installation finish! All your base are belong to us!

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    5. Re:American manuals are funny. by flink · · Score: 1

      The DVD player built into my TV gives a great message when you put a bad disc in:

      "Please check the type of disc and stain or scratch of a disc!"

      Classic.

    6. Re:American manuals are funny. by evilviper · · Score: 3, Interesting

      On a US Federal Governement document, I saw a page with no text except, in large letters in the center:

      THIS PAGE IS BLANK

      Kind of reminded me of all the area 51 Gags. You could always get a laugh going up to a guard in full military attire, and getting him to deny that he works for the US government. And, of course, they're always guarding 'nothing'.

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    7. Re:American manuals are funny. by tupps · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember the instructions for an inner tube patch kit.

      There was only a couple of lines in the instructions (some of which sounded like Yoda should have said them) but the absolute classic was:

      Thwock it with hammer.

      From now on wheneven I use a hammer a thwock stuff with it.

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    8. Re:American manuals are funny. by Triv · · Score: 2

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      wow, that brought back memories. When I was a practicing musician (I'm still a musician, I just don't practice) I used to see that all the time - music publishers put musicless pages in their scores with that written on it, the purpose being to elminate difficult page turns. Never seen it in a manual tho.

      Triv

    9. Re:American manuals are funny. by ogre2112 · · Score: 1

      ROFL @ #1

      More like this at:

      http://www.engrish.com

    10. Re:American manuals are funny. by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      The company I work for had a translated manual come in from Germany, with one of its new product lines. In the manual were instructed to:
      Insert Stiffy Disk

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    11. Re:American manuals are funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Neither of my roomates seems to think this is funny but our shower curtain has a tag on it. On the tag it reads exactly as follows.

      *******************
      Materials:
      Cotton/Algoden
      Use of vinyl liner is
      recomended for all
      fabric shower curtains
      Made in Tiawan
      **************

      I suppose that they really don't know how to make them right, over in Tiawan I mean, being that its only the tiawan ones that requre a vinyl liner.

    12. Re:American manuals are funny. by stevey · · Score: 1

      I don't remember having seen it in a manual before, either, but I do remember seeing it all the time when I was at school.

      The exam papers I had for both GCSE's and A-Levels often had 'This page intentionally left blank' written on pages.

      Maybe it was some for of added intelligence test ;)

    13. Re:American manuals are funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At a company I worked for in the 80's, we had an IBM mainframe and a non-IBM (but plug-compatible)line printer. The manual for the printer included pages saying:

      This page intentionally left almost blank.

    14. Re:American manuals are funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I'm afraid sir that your just a moron.

    15. Re:American manuals are funny. by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Yes, Direct Access was that "cool" DOS menu system. It could be written in Perl today in about 2 hours. :)

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    16. Re:American manuals are funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You better hope IBM doesn't see that post, they'll sue your ass off for copyright infringement.

      Nah, they all do it.
  5. E3 inspiration by alphapartic1e · · Score: 0

    maybe they just need some "manual babes," ala. E3 style.

  6. They're not trying to be funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  7. I have many funny Japanese manuals by adamwright · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can certainly related to the funny japanese manuals! Our fridge freezer includes instructions recommending that you "Turn your knob sharply to remove cubes" (The ice machine), and that the fridge will help keep food because it has "An alarming function built in" (The door buzzer).

    Hours of fun...

    1. Re:I have many funny Japanese manuals by racermd · · Score: 1

      That's nothing... Next time you're eating at a rib joint, check the complimentary wet-nap to see if there are instructions on *it*. I've seen them, and it reads like this:

      "Just tear open packet and use"

      Now, I can't imagine what happened to neccessitate instructions on a wet-nap. I shudder just thinking about it...

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    2. Re:I have many funny Japanese manuals by JonWan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I have a milling machine that has a safety sticker on it that says, "Straight light on the PE cover is prohibited". I always wanted to shine a light light on it and see if a Taiwanese cop would show up.

      Back in jr. highschool autoshop class (1969) a guy brought in a Datsun pickup for us to work on. He brought his own parts and on the oil filter there was a big picture of an elephant and the words "White Elephant Auto Parts". We all got a good laugh at that.

    3. Re:I have many funny Japanese manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah...it tasted pretty wierd and gave me a bit of a stomach ache.

    4. Re:I have many funny Japanese manuals by davechen · · Score: 2, Funny
      Here's a quote from Hiroyuki Nishikawa's classic How to Good-Bye Depression : If You Constrict Anus 100 Times Everyday. Malarkey? or Effective Way?
      I think constricting anus 100 times and denting navel 100 times in succession everyday is effective to good-bye depression and take back youth. You can do so at a boring meeting or in a subway. I have known a 70-year-old man who has practiced it for 20 years. As a result, he has a good complexion and has grown 20 years younger. His eyes sparkle. He is full of vigor, happiness and joy. He has neither complained nor born a grudge under any circumstance. Furthermore, he can make #### three times in succession without drawing out.

      In addition, he also can have burned a strong, beautiful fire within his abdomen. It can burn out the dirty stickiness of his body, release his immaterial fiber or third attention, which has been confined to his stickiness. Then, he can shoot out his immaterial fiber or third attention to an object, concentrate on it and attain happy lucky feeling through the success of concentration.

    5. Re:I have many funny Japanese manuals by ShavenYak · · Score: 2

      I know of someone who got a small bottle of cold medicine that had a couple of packets of silica gel on top to keep the pills dry. Not seeing the pills underneath, she opened one of the packets and swallowed the contents.

      After what must have been a horrendously disgusting experience, she called my other friend who had recommended the medicine. She told him how horrible it was, and it took about five minutes talking about it before he figured out what she had done.

      So, I perhaps know one of the people responsible for silica gel packets being labeled with the "Do Not Eat" warning.

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  8. It works! by tezmc · · Score: 1

    At least in my experience it works.

    Whenever I have to do documentation at work I usually fill it with stupid gags and puns, this makes it more enjoyable for me to write, and it also means that people read it instead of calling me up with questions that have already been answered.

    Granted, if I had to write something that would be used company wide (I work for a very big company) rather than just colleagues who mostly know me I'd probably have to write the dry drivel that no-one would read.

    ,Tez

  9. The powers of being concise and clear by smoondog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, god no! I hope they don't start doing anything like that here. The best manuals are concise and very clear. I don't want to read alot, I want to find the answer I'm looking for and absorb it in the shortest possible amount of time.

    Adding jokes, dilbert cartoons, puns would, in my opinion take away from that. I have comics taped to my monitor because they are funny, I have manuals on my shelf because they give me information. Don't make me put manual pages on my monitor or comics on my shelf.

    -Sean

    1. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

      >> I want to find the answer I'm looking for and absorb it in the shortest possible amount of time.

      A good index helps a lot. Most manuals don't have robust enough indecies.

    2. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Osty · · Score: 5, Informative

      You didn't RTFA, did you? The article was all about the various cultural differences. For example, when translating for an Italian market, it was said that you should never just flat-out say what to do. Instead, suggest around it (apparently, Italians are stubborn and don't like being told what to do). Hungarians like instructions on how to fix things, some images and phrases that are benign in one culture are offensive in another, and so on.


      Personally, I agree with you that a manual should be clear, concise, and just plain useful. And that's how most good manuals are in the States. That's not necessarily true around the world, and that was the whole point of the article.

    3. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't want to read alot

      I can see why.

      BTW, whoever moderated you as "Flamebait" must be a fucking moron. If only I weren't so jaded on metamoderation...

    4. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by inflex · · Score: 1

      Oh blast. After reading that story, I realised I may as well not produce manuals. Certainly at University we were told [in general] to never make it sound like the blame was to like in the operator (even if it does). Things like "You entered invalid data" are a big no-no, should be "The computer was unable to process the required data".

      Now I have to go see if I can find a manual-translator for my LaTeX books.

    5. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Thunderbear · · Score: 1

      You might want to read the TeX and MetaFont books, which are what you want as well as being funny (occasionally).

      Getting the point across does not imply being dull.

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    6. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by rodgerd · · Score: 2

      I RTFAed and I'm looking for a job in France or Italy where the manuals come with free pr0n...

    7. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      This is what happens when the coder-fellow thinks of something that requires subtlety and art. Humor isn't necessarily comics and jokes. In fact, a manual full of irrelevant jokes and funny illustrations would be annoying beyond compare.

      What is funny is delicacy and wit in the presentation of the appropriate information. Like an earlier poster's example: 'This is the annoying red light' or something like that. That's funny and indicates the part of the device as well as does 'Red Light.'

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    8. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Com2Kid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Jokes and Gags make for good memorable content for your brain to draw upon when you are trying to remember how to do something or how something works.

      Many Cram Courses rely on dirty limericks to allow students to memorize patterns quickly, and the best books on anything that I have read have at least some humor in them.

      Hell that is why on any given day I could read through a few thousand pages of Asimov talking about almost ANYTHING but damned if I could do the same reading for a textbook even in a topic I am interested in.

      My logic textbook has SOME humor in the logical examples, but the actual writing is so bone dry as to make reading it straight through (or even for one chapter. . . .) painful.

      There are two chapters where the author lets up, and they are an absolute blast to read, easy to remember material from, lots of readily applicable examples pop into the readers mind when needed. Too bad the entire book is not written that way.

    9. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 2
      Too many U.S. manuals sre written by the pound these days. They're verbose and of little use unless you're willing to read them like a novel using a highlighter and making your own margin notes.

      Somewhere I have old Apple II and Apple II+ manuals for Apple DOS, Applesoft Basic, and the one with the schematic diagrams and the 6502 instruction set. These were truly great, very concise, clear and to the point. Usable by both a newbie and an expert and are a good example for tech writers to follow.

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      Beta is broken and the link to classic doesn't work. Stop wasting our time or there won't be anybody left here.
    10. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I agree. I'm a technical writer for a small software company (used to be one for a larger company but it sucked). Most writers won't admit it, but users (esp. system admins) dig up the manual or help only when they're at wit's end. In other words, they want answers & they want them fast. Having a lot of "funny" stuff in the books would only add to their frustration & might lead them to believe that your company doesn't take its product seriously.

      Of course, the cultural aspects that the article mentions are very important. That's why you write in your native language for the source doc and then hire good translators and I18N experts in the other countries.

    11. Re:The powers of being concise and clear by MicroHo · · Score: 1

      I can totally relate to those Italians. I can't stand most of the techie magazines published by Ziff-Davis because they all use an Imperial, Commanding tone. I think this mode is called the "Imperative Voice" by grammarians, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I *LOATHE* they way ZD articles order the reader around. Instead of sounding like helpful, friendly "tips" or "guidance" the articles sound more like more like bitchy little hall monitor wannabes. Anyone familiar with their "Journal" series of mags will know 'zactly what I'm talking about. I know, I'm probably too sensitive and overreacting to stupid editors and stylistic choices that have nothing to do with content. But I simply couldn't stand it anymore, and dumped my ZD mag subscriptions.

  10. Linux has solved the problem of manual translation by mattkime · · Score: 0, Troll

    Linux has solved the problem of manual translation....

    it doesn't have one!

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  11. Funny Japanese Manuals... by Ismilar · · Score: 1

    The Japanese don't have to try to make their manuals funny when they are selling them in english speaking countries, they just have to hire a bad translater. :)

  12. Maybe a money saver in the end by blueskatz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe if companies spent a little more on their manuals, and making them easier to read or more entertaining, then they wouldn't have to spend so much money on tech support.

    1. Re:Maybe a money saver in the end by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

      Maybe if they just gave the poor tech support people permission to tell the guy who wants to know how to fix his cup holder to READ THE MANUAL!!!!!!!!

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    2. Re:Maybe a money saver in the end by unitron · · Score: 2

      Perhaps they should get the tech support people to write the manuals.

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    3. Re:Maybe a money saver in the end by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      But then the entire manual would consist of one page posing the question: "Did you reboot?"

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    4. Re:Maybe a money saver in the end by shippo · · Score: 1

      I used to work in third-line support for a UK systems vendor. One customer constantly would say "We pay you to read the manuals for us."

  13. Game Manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Game manuals are often funny or entertaining. The Arcanum manual was incredibly well done, with lots of 1800's style science, fonts and pictures. I'd read that one again just for fun...

    1. Re:Game Manuals by amuro98 · · Score: 1

      The manual for Fallout was very well done as well. Matched the style of game very well while being informative.

    2. Re:Game Manuals by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2

      Maxis made some wonderful manuals for the Sim games - also the About boxes were full of laughs. Haven't bought one lately, so I don't know if EA killed that, but I hope not.

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    3. Re:Game Manuals by the_real_tigga · · Score: 1

      Ever read the manual/newspaper to Zack McKracken?

      I've been laughing my a** off for two days back then.

      You can download the game here btw (probably illegal if you don't own it), and this should be able to play it! Unfortunately, I have not found a link to the manual itself...

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    4. Re:Game Manuals by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, game manuals are going to fall in quality because of the new little boxes...

      Tim

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    5. Re:Game Manuals by rjung2k · · Score: 1

      The funniest video-game manual ever has to be for Epyx's old Crush, Crumble, and Chomp! movie monster simulator game. Lots and lots and lots of hilarious gags and puns, all delivered with the written equivalent of a sober deadpan. Easily worth the price of the game as a whole.

      Betcha nobody else reading this message will have seen it, however.

  14. Ever read the Lightwave Manual? by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heh, there's a feature in Lightwave where you can make a model of a hand, then apply bones to it so you can manipulate the fingers. In the illustration, they showed how you could take all the bones in the fingers (except the forefinger) and rotate them simultaneously, causing the hand to point.

    There was a tiny caption under it that said "this isn't the finger that was raised when they showed this to me."

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    1. Re:Ever read the Lightwave Manual? by captaineo · · Score: 2

      Yes, the Lightwave manuals (and the community in general) were and are still great... Remember the Modeler plugin 'Fori's Boner'? I think it actually shipped with LW at one point (or maybe it's just left around from an earlier installation). And boy do I wish they'd finally ship make-not-suck.p (the secret plugin used by high-end SFX houses everywhere!)

    2. Re:Ever read the Lightwave Manual? by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      Heh @ Make-not-suck.p.

      There was a tutorial on how to apply bones in LW to a model of a horse, once. It was called 'Boning a Horse'.

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      "Derp de derp."
  15. We have those here, just not included in the box. by Saturn49 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are the "for Dummies" series of books. Well written by experts in the particular field, and a bit of humor tossed in occasionally. If OEM manuals were like this, the Dummies series would never have existed.

  16. Manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really feel that the problem with manuals now is that companies don't spend enough time trying to answer simple problems in them. For example, recently I was using the spreadsheet in Star Office, and I wanted to multiply an entire column of numbers by a scalar, and replace that column with the new values. I spent over 2 hours sifting through the help menus, and I still don't know how to do it. I realize that this is a simple thing to do, but how do new people figure this out without having to ask someone who has done it before?

    Remember the old DOS manuals? Those books were great. Everything I ever needed to know about the OS was in that manual.

  17. Don't try this at home, kids: by Mr_Matt · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article:

    Touching Italians is fine, but you must never, ever tell them how to use a product.

    I tried this with the local Italian, and believe me, I'd be much better off if I'd just told him how the microwave works. :)

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    1. Re:Don't try this at home, kids: by big_cat79 · · Score: 2

      To address the touching italians quote, Tony Soprano has an interesting take. When asked if he had ever had a prostate exam he said "Are you kidding? I don't let anyone wag their finger in my FACE."

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  18. RTFM doesnt have to be read the funny manual... by apoKalypse · · Score: 0

    it could also be: read the fine manual read the ******* manual Really Trying to Find Myself Rats, They Fired Me Really Tough Female Manager Really Tired of Feeling Miserable Real Time Fouled-up Management Real Time For the Masses Ready To Fly, Man Rest Time For Milt Really Tough Financial Management Reaching Towards Friendly Manipulation and many many more!

    1. Re:RTFM doesnt have to be read the funny manual... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *yawn*

  19. The Open Source Solution to this problem by GGardner · · Score: 4, Funny


    is to put the jokes in the source.

    "You are not expected to understand this".

    1. Re:The Open Source Solution to this problem by MavEtJu · · Score: 2

      That's a nice example of how a piece of text can be interpreted in two ways:

      Does it mean "You're so stupid, don't even try to find out what is going on" or is it "This is pretty weird stuff going on here, don't worry if you don't get it"?

      Knowing where it is coming from, I go for the second approach (after all, my glass is always half-full :-), but there are people who will take the wrong interpretation and be insulted about it.

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    2. Re:The Open Source Solution to this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You are not expected to understand this".

      That's funny in at least three way. The third way is my favorite: it puts to rest the long-standing myth that having source code to your software is somehow a good or helpful thing.

    3. Re:The Open Source Solution to this problem by sean23007 · · Score: 2

      Well, I used to pin comic strips up on my monitor, I guess now I'll have to print out the source code to various programs and pin it all up on my monitor...

      --

      Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
    4. Re:The Open Source Solution to this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      prolly more like "this is complete mess. i don't want to fix it. you don't want to fix it."

  20. in this manual by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

    "[...] in this manual, I will refer to myself as 'we', so that it will at least look like 'we' are learning [...]"

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  21. Cheese in a Can by Cheesewhiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I, myself, never read any manuals that accompany the products I buy (but when does cheese-whiz really need instructions anyways?)"

    Never.

    -Cheesewhiz

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    1. Re:Cheese in a Can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beagle Bros. 'Nuff Said. (Apple ][ days, for everyone else)

    2. Re:Cheese in a Can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those were the days. Beagle Basic, Utility City, Tip Disk, Dos Boss Big MAC, Sourceror, TASC, Disk Muncher

    3. Re:Cheese in a Can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Have you looked at a can of Cheez-Whiz lately?
      For best results, remove cap.

      My 12-year old laughed so hard when he read that, I was afraid he'd fall out of his chair.

  22. Manual Entertainment not present?! by DeltaSigma · · Score: 0

    So I'm not supposed to stare into the depths of the dozens of holographic "authenticity" stickers that Microsoft puts in their manuals? ... D***.

    1. Re:Manual Entertainment not present?! by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 2

      (pulls out the manual to an unused copy of windows) Whoa, I thought this was a printed copy of the EULA and mabey an install guide, but there's actualy insctruction for a few included programs! Amazing....

  23. Re:Linux has solved the problem of manual translat by GodInHell · · Score: 1

    Man oh Man oh man.

    Get it?
    -GiH

  24. Humor in Docs/Texts by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I had a statistics book in college which was full of puns, some may have encountered the same book, made the class fun.

    Randal Schwartz's first O'Reilly Programming in Perl was also fun, for the humor placed in it, which keeps the student amused rather than dry, clinical and boring, which IMHO the 2nd edition was.

    Some people view humor as a distraction in documents, perhaps so, if the humor gets in the way of getting the information across. I try to put some humor into sample data and documents, but usually it takes someone with special knowledge to notice (i.e. an address for J. T. Kirk, 1701 Enterprise Place) or silly things to fill in space in an example form, like creating combinations of funny words randomly to fill out the space in a new P.O. form. (BTW, programming in PCL sucks!)

    It also seems to make the job of writing documentation a bit easier.

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    1. Re:Humor in Docs/Texts by jayratch · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I had two such statistics books. One was written in the early 80s so none of the jokes made sense to me. The other was ultimately 300 pages longer than necessary, likewise crowded by way to many examples and way to many in-depth explanations of every detail.
      College texts in general are written that way, though, and the "Cliff's" version generally does the job for most people, is 5% of the size and 10% of the price.
      Maybe make the default manuals "For Dummies" style and sell "Cliffs" versions and O'Reilly for those who know what the hell the material's about?

    2. Re:Humor in Docs/Texts by aWalrus · · Score: 1

      I had a basic physics book in college that had some jokes in the text. We always enjoyed them. For instance, a physics problem stated something like "A mild mannered reporter happens to jump over a building with direction x and an impulse speed of y. Calculate point of impact and determine if he lands on the roof"

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    3. Re:Humor in Docs/Texts by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 2

      I had a statistics book in college which was full of puns, some may have encountered the same book, made the class fun.

      Was it "How to Lie With Statistics"?

    4. Re:Humor in Docs/Texts by Fizyx · · Score: 1

      In an otherwise stupefying textbook on electronics, a footnote to a discussion on AC circuits read, "Contrary to popular belief, Captain Kirk did not invent the phasor diagram." The captain also showed up in the index.

  25. Yes, it is. by Xunker · · Score: 2
    Chris Rock has a saying. To wit:

    If a homeless person has a funny sign- he hasn't been homeless that long; a real homeless person is too hungry to be funny...


    Well, in the software development world we have a corrolary to that:

    If a software company writes a funny manual, they haven't been in the business that long; a real development house is too poor and it's geeks to tired to be funny..


    ...oh come one, you know I'm right.

    Seriously, writing documentation is the worst part of programming, at least for the one writting the software. Most places can't afford a on-staff tech writer and so the people writing it are just developers on their coffee breaks. They want to get it done as quickly as possible.

    Though, to be fair, an old IBM manual (from a system 390, if you care) iI have read, on teh very Last page "This page intentionally not left blank". I guess that was a laid back as IBM got in the 1980's..
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    1. Re:Yes, it is. by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 2
      on the very Last page "This page intentionally not left blank".

      Are you sure that is what it said? Pages saying "This page intentionally left blank" (no "not") are common in IBM manuals (as well as quite a few others). It's actually there as check against duplication errors. If you found an actual blank page in an IBM manual it meant something went wrong when it was printed.

    2. Re:Yes, it is. by Xunker · · Score: 2

      Quite sure -- I believe it was meant as a joke. That's why it's funny, you're so used to seeing "this page intentionally left blank" all the time when, in fact, the page isn't black after they put those words on it. It was some IBMer's silent jab at his corporate image.

      Ah, here it is: "Environmental Record Editing and Printing Program (EREP) User's Guide and Reference", (C) 1988, Page 344. :)

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    3. Re:Yes, it is. by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      The first time I read "This space intentionally left blank" was in the classic adventure game Zork. Are you it wasn't originally some tech writer paying homage to the game?

    4. Re:Yes, it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it isnt.

      The first time I saw "this page intentionally left blank" was circa 1963 (yes almost FORTY YEARS AGO) in a Control Data Corporation manual for the 1604.

  26. Apple manuals and Sierra instructions by Cirrocco · · Score: 1
    Apple and Sierra have been making attempts at humor, some better than others, for a long time. Of course, this was in the days when computers did very little unto themselves, as opposed to all-inclusive operating systems that had multiple layers. The manuals could be relatively short, even with a joke on every page. As for Sierra, the Leisure Suit Larry series, amongst others, were always spiced with humor.


    Who here still has a copy of the Wizardry manual, with the cartoon depicting the casting of Tiltowait, and the ensuing "gesundheit"?

  27. RTFM: A last line of defense by mcflaherty · · Score: 1

    In my use of RTFM, its usually a last ditch effort to get the person off my back. I have no problem answering the same question several times, if it seems the person asking was sincerely lost.

    But to RTFM them, that sort of implies that they have been hounding you with problems that are easily addressable otherwise. A good example from my life in school were simple standard library stuff; I mean, how many times should one be expected to explain something that can easily be read from a man page?

    I don't think the article really adressed that part of the saying, the desperation that causes one to lash out.

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  28. Corel: Better manual then product by Com2Kid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember one copy of another of Corel Paint that included a little mini-book like thing that was basically a complete description of the entire printing industry that went all the way from base color theory (all of them, yah!) to how to take care of half-tone printing press problems.

    I still use the thing as an occasional reference, very nice pack-in.

    Now that particular version of Corel Paint on the other hand. . . . sucked. Big time. Apparently it has gotten better since then (heh) but I am not going to spend more $$$ finding out. . . . ickies. Awful nasty program ::shivers:: one of the few programs that is darn nearly physically painful to use. . . .

  29. Too much work, yes. by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

    Most of the time stuff you buy has a manual that doesn't tell you common problems, but merely stuff you should be able to figure out on your own. I'm not dissing Unix manpages here, but manuals generally are not even helpful. Of course, many companies might decide to revise their manuals, and provide some information too, I doubt it though.

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  30. Mackie manuals by para834 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mackie, makers of great audio mixers, have lots of entertaining content in their manuals. Little things like the setup diagrams for a driving a PA system has pictures of little stick people dancing... and a description of when NOT to use the 75Hz bass cut includes "recording earthquakes".

    1. Re:Mackie manuals by Android23 · · Score: 1

      I was just reading the manual for the Mackie SR 24-4 mixer. For ultra quick start instructions, it says to turn on your mixer and bang your guitar all over it.
      Now if only TCP/IP manuals were as funny...

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    2. Re:Mackie manuals by HexRei · · Score: 1

      I think the little stick people are the actual Mackie logo now or something. Or at least, they are all over my friend's Fussion system's 450's, 1800's, and 3000's.

    3. Re:Mackie manuals by ibennetch · · Score: 1

      Mackie is exactly the company I thought of as I made my way down the comments. If only I had a manual handy I could enlighten everyone to the comedy...everyone cracked up at me, enjoying reading a manual for a board....

    4. Re:Mackie manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only are there manuals funny but you can actually learn something. I had to hook up a Mackie Mixer for a project at work.I didn't have any experience in this area. The manual taught me about not only the mixer but audio stuff in general. Thay make a great product and include a great manual.

    5. Re:Mackie manuals by EventHorizon · · Score: 1

      obligatory karma whoring: http://www.mackie.com/TechSupport/Tech_Library/Own ers_Manuals.asp

      The 1400i amp manual was actually funny enough to avoid the dumpster!

  31. OS Tamagochis? by bafu · · Score: 1
    Adams said that Japanese manuals are often jazzed up with creative cartoons. Even program interfaces are festive: Microsoft's much-maligned Clippy the Paperclip is replaced in Japan by an animated dolphin that Adams swears is a hoot to work with.

    It's just kind of a distraction since you have to feed it and play with it every so often or it will get sick. ;-)

    1. Re:OS Tamagochis? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      The dolphin Office Assistant is downloadable. For some reason, I find it much less annoying than Clippy (when I have it enabled). Do a search for the word "Kairu" on http://office.microsoft.com

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  32. I concur with the Japanese manuals remark. by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 2

    When living in Europe Japanese-versions of the manuals were more or less always included and I enjoyed looking at the funny pics ;)

    The localized manuals were also very funny (for different reasons) they were usually so badly translated to be comical, some (honest, I didn't make these up) examples are:

    'joystick' translated as 'rod of command'

    'drivers' (as in printer drivers) sometimes translated with 'car pilots'

    'server' (as in network server) sometimes translated with 'whom who serves'

    and so on and on... it's funny though when you read stuff like 'plug the rod of command in and don't forget to install the car pilot in your computer'

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    1. Re:I concur with the Japanese manuals remark. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Negative One, Troll."
      A golden badge of honor,
      worn on my penis.

      By penis do you mean "joystick" or "rod of command"?

  33. What? And get sued? by khodsden · · Score: 1

    In the US, if you put humour in your manuals, you risk getting your pants sued off. Humourous documentation is considered "unprofessional", and therefore open to lawsuits.

    Imagine if a manual said something in jest ("If you're having real problems, just flip the breaker in the computer room. No one will notice.") and a nitwit read it. He'd think it was serious, do it, cause all sorts of havoc, and then say, "But the manual said I should!"

    Nah, the cynic in me thinks humour won't make it to manuals anytime soon. Too many nitwits.

  34. Lazy? Nah.... by 2Bits · · Score: 2

    Do you really think that companies are lazy or incapable of producing quality manuals? Me think not.

    All the lousy manuals we have today is the result of "product strategy" or "business model strategy", whatever the big cheese calls these days. Manuals are created as confusing as possible, so that customers will pay for product training and consulting.

    1. Re:Lazy? Nah.... by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Clarity is sacrificed for completeness. It's not perfect, but wouldn't you rather the manual have everything you need, or only part of what you need written very well?

      BTW, where's this crack at American working habits come from? We really do work more hours than anyone else in the world, and have for a while, but for some reason this idiotic "lazy American" myth gets propagated. It's really hilarious coming from Europeans considering how little work they actually do.

    2. Re:Lazy? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Work smarter, not harder.

    3. Re:Lazy? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We really do work more hours than anyone else in the world

      'fraid not. The UK average working week is 44hours, which is way more than anyone else in Europe, and more than in the US.

      It's really hilarious coming from Europeans considering how little work they actually do.

      The French, maybe. However, France is not all of Europe, however much they wish they were...

    4. Re:Lazy? Nah.... by nomadic · · Score: 2

      'fraid not. The UK average working week is 44hours, which is way more than anyone else in Europe, and more than in the US.

      'fraid not. The average US work week is 46 hours; more, but not too much more, though you also have to factor in vacation time and retirement. The typical American vacation is 2 weeks a year, with many people never taking that, and Americans retire later than people in the UK.

  35. How much "spiced up" are these going to get? by DeltaStorm · · Score: 1

    How far can they go in enticing users to read manuals? Will we eventually hear "I only read my manuals for the information." from certain users?

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    1. Re:How much "spiced up" are these going to get? by JamieF · · Score: 2

      Is that supposed to be like "I only read Playboy for the articles?"

  36. Good product design... by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "We have noticed that if a manual said, 'Do not ever do this,' we would then get many calls from people who had broken their machines by doing just that," Esposito said. "They read the documentation and took offense to its tone so they had an argument with the product."

    I found this to be an amusing story. However, the best way to deal with the whole manual issue is to design your product better. You know how you're not supposed to remove a game cartridge while you're playing? If you look at the SNES and the GameBoy, you are physically prevented from removing the cartridge because the power switch moves a piece that blocks the exit of the cartridge.

    I realize this won't work in every situation, but the solution of 'we need to get people to read the manuals!' isn't going to go very far.

    Getting back to the SNES example, I read the manual before playing the machine. Heck, I'm an expert on it! I used to sell them! Despite my detailed knowledge of how the machine works and the consequences of pulling the cartridge out while it's on, I'm still aware of the power switch blocking exit of the cartridge. Why? One day, a friend of mine came over with a new game I had been waiting for for ages. In a rush to pop this game in, I gave the cartridge in the machine a pretty good tug. Fortunately, it didn't give though. The safety feature of the SNES prevented me from making a 'wandering mind' mistake.

    In cases like that, you could know the product inside out and still make bone-headed mistakes like that. Fortunately for me, Nintendo was smart enough to anticipate that I might make a mistake like that and design it so it's not easy to do.

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    1. Re:Good product design... by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...the best way to deal with the whole manual issue is to design your product better. You know how you're not supposed to remove a game cartridge while you're playing? If you look at the SNES and the GameBoy, you are physically prevented from removing the cartridge because the power switch moves a piece that blocks the exit of the cartridge.
      You obviously haven't heard Nintendo's horror stories about the thousands of angry parents who called customer support to complain that their cartridges were stuck.
      Support: Just turn the machine off, Sir.
      Parent: I'm not going to fall for that one. That other Redmond company told me turning my machine off would fix the problem, but then I couldn't get it to respond at all. At least now Jimmy can play his game.
      Ever wonder why the N64 didn't include such a brilliant feature?
    2. Re:Good product design... by chris_sawtell · · Score: 2
      Good product design...

      Total bull.

      A truly good product design would have the act of pulling the cartridge out of the game machine turn it off before any damage could be done. They are not the only ones. My Cell Phone's 'On' switch is shared with the 'No' button. That's completely barmy and totally counter-intuitive! I cut several people off by pressing the 'On' button to hopefully talk to the caller, but it was programmed to be 'No', so I cut the buggers off. Poor sods, and very embarrassing for me. Ericsson, are you listening? No, I didn't think so. Somebody, please so kind and tell the silly half-wits.

      Similarly the 'Submit' and 'Preview' buttons on this form are around the wrong way. ( Most people using computers work from left to right. ) This is presumably the reason why we are blessed, sic, with so many obviously "first cut" postings. See the risks digest for many more of these idiotic carryings on. They'd be funny if they weren't tragic. Don't get me started on road design and the traffic laws.

    3. Re:Good product design... by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "A truly good product design would have the act of pulling the cartridge out of the game machine turn it off before any damage could be done"

      I totally agree with what you're saying (which probably explains why the N64 didn't have this 'feature'), but I never said that the switch idea was the best one ever. I just used that as an example. :)

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    4. Re:Good product design... by Nameles · · Score: 1

      Sure, that worked until they changed the cartridge design and the slot "concaved" in instead of creating the "lock."

    5. Re:Good product design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering that nothing bad happened to my N64 cartridges the few times I pulled them out with the system on, I would say that they DID implement this feature.

    6. Re:Good product design... by Sentry21 · · Score: 2

      Fortunately for me, Nintendo was smart enough to anticipate that I might make a mistake like that and design it so it's not easy to do.

      And then they redesigned the cartridges so that they looked more futuristic, and so that people could pull them out easily. It was probably from support calls, but that screws up people like me who assume that it's always safe to take the cart out.

      Yay lost saved games.

      --Dan

  37. manuals.. by skt · · Score: 2

    I think that the software developer has succeeded from a usability POV if the enduser does not have to read the manual in order to operate the software. Most software, however, requires documentation in order to operate as it isn't very standard or is complex. Most people who have used computers now can operate a web-browser for example w/o reading the manual. Photoshop, on the other hand, needs documentation for the advanced features, and most of the basic features for new users unless there is some kind of guru that user could talk to, in order to learn the software.

    I think the article is correct though that manuals just seem to be very boring in general. Third-party books tend to be much better and more enjoyable to read. Honestly, I like manuals the way that they are, which is basically pure information and no "fun stuff". I would buy a book on the software package if I wanted something that was fun to read. Most of the time, however, I use manuals for reference, and not reading material..

  38. japanese manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i had this drumset hardware instrucution sheet that provided "in case of an earthquake, do not stand near
    cymbal stands"

  39. Easyflow by jmb-d · · Score: 5, Funny
    Gather round, children, and listen to my tale.

    Many years ago (1986) I worked on a project that required us to create "Flow Charts" of our software design. In times past, I'd used the time-honored "flow chart template" (a piece of plastic with specialized shapes cut out of it) and while I didn't actually like it, it got the job done.

    On this project, however, we were provided with a piece of software (Easyflow) to accomplish the same goal, but without the need to put pencil to paper. Instead, we used the software so we could fiddle endlessly with the design before committing a single pin to paper (yes, children, this was in the days when the dot-matrix printer ruled, before laser printers came free in your breakfast cereal).

    Easyflow's Bloodthirsty License Agreement was the first hint that the user manual would be an interesting read.

    IIRC, there were also 2 entry points to the manual proper, worded somthing like this:
    1. Fools Rush In
    2. The Gritty Details


    Ah, the good old days.
    --
    In walking, just walk. In sitting, just sit. Above all, don't wobble.
    -- Yun-Men
  40. What Does It Matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look--pretty much every job is going to overseas anyway. If you're still working in five years, you'll call the help line, dialing +91 first (the country code for India), instead of reading a manual.

    1. Re:What Does It Matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if they nuke eachother first.

  41. Hmmm... pardon the hypocrisy? by ybiC · · Score: 1

    "I, myself, never read any manuals that accompany the products I buy unless something majorly goes wrong!"

    "Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?"

    This blurb was doubtless written in jest/haste, but it sure sounds hypocritical to me. If you are too lazy to ReadTFM, where do you get off calling vendors lazy for how they WroteTFM? Either way is fine by me, as it's your life, just apply the same rule in both cases.

    1. Re:Hmmm... pardon the hypocrisy? by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "If you are too lazy to ReadTFM, where do you get off calling vendors lazy for how they WroteTFM? Either way is fine by me, as it's your life, just apply the same rule in both cases."

      Probably because the product should work easily to begin with, the manual should only be for advanced features. I know how to use Lightwave very well, for example, but occasionally I run across a feature I need specific info on. I started using LW before reading the manual, but that doesn't mean I never pick it up.

      I believe the focus of the article above was in getting people to read the manual before they use the product. People simply won't do that. But if there's some secret feature that they've partially uncovered, most people have no problem reading about that.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  42. I do read them by stud9920 · · Score: 1

    Manuals are very decent restroom litterature.

    1. Re:I do read them by Drakin · · Score: 1

      all else fails, they make good emergancy toilet paper too...

  43. I always liked... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2
    ... not a manual, but the label on a shirt:


    "For best results, hand wash in warm water and drip-dry.

    For not so good results, drag through puddles behind car and blow-dry on roof rack."

    1. Re:I always liked... by Noexit · · Score: 1

      Holy Crap, I had one of those shirts. I loved that thing. Never did try dragging it through puddles, but I put it through everything else.

      --

      Never argue with a man carrying a water buffalo

    2. Re:I always liked... by Frogg · · Score: 1

      Animal Clothing often put similar crazy stuff on their labelling - I have a pair of trousers in which the label reads: May contain nuts

      ..and one a sweatshirt labelled as Y2K compliant!

  44. So what is different? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Japlish is usually funny anyway...

    1. Re:So what is different? by colmore · · Score: 2

      I like to call it "Engrush"

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      In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
    2. Re:So what is different? by colmore · · Score: 2

      hmmm... that could be taken to be extremely offensive, i suppose. i hope i'm only poking gentle fun. east asian-americans speak far better english than i speak korean, japanese, mandarin etc. i know and work with a lot of them, they are by and large wonderful nice people, who sometime pronounce english words in amusing ways. that's all. really. *ducks*

      --
      In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
    3. Re:So what is different? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >hmmm... that could be taken to be extremely >offensive, i suppose.

      It wouldn't be funny otherwise.

    4. Re:So what is different? by MaxVlast · · Score: 1
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      There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
      Max V.
      NeXTMail/MIME Mail welcome
  45. O'Reilly by interiot · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    O'Reilly books are written in a more informal tone, and many people like them because of this.

    However, I like the informal tone for a different reason altogher. It leads to "unique" quotes, which can be used in Robust Hyperlinks (re: the recent Google programming contest).

    Here are some examples, from O'Reilly's "Programming Perl".

    Besides being useful in the longer run, hopefully these also get around the precedent set by the 2600 ruling, that links can be illegal.

    For a more complete set of examples, see this page.

    1. Re:O'Reilly by mgarraha · · Score: 2

      Programming Perl

      I found the second edition's self-conscious attempts at humor annoying. The first edition was much funnier, especially the part about sending clay tablets by carrier pigeon.

    2. Re:O'Reilly by dumb-nick-name · · Score: 1

      The Numerical Recipes handbooks are written in the same easy, non-self-consiously witty manner. Offhand, I recall a quote about an algorithm that "hunts down and corners the root like a frightened rabbit."

    3. Re:O'Reilly by rookkey · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, the frequent attempts at humor in Programming Perl are what make the book frustrating to read for me. Occasional humorous quips are O.K., but only when they're used sparingly. I have been reading the Third Edition recently, and it's painful knowing that another bad pun or camel joke is coming in another two paragraphs. The book is comprehensive, but the humor is distracting to say in the least. I mean, who wants to hear about certain variables being "thingys" when they're reading about operator precedence?

      If you want an example of a reference on Perl that is clear and comprehensive, take a look at Core Perl by Reuven Lerner. The book covers much of the material of the "Camel" book, but with half the amount of pages. There's a sample chapter up at the Prentice Hall Web site.

      Not related to Perl, but I have found Jeff Prosise's Programming Windows with MFC to be absolutely packed with information. The diction is concise, but not dry. Example code and programs are usually useful. Especially nice is how Mr. Prosise breaks down complex tasks into manageable steps. Few books are as well-organized as this one.

    4. Re:O'Reilly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the first edition also has an index entry of 'Scooby Doo pronouncing index' (rindex)

  46. Dummy's guide by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 4, Funny
    When I saw "The Dummy's Guide to Sex", it gave me a whole new perspective on "RTFM."

    1. Re:Dummy's guide by alexburke · · Score: 2

      This one, you mean? (Don't mind the URL. It's the newest creation of the kind folk at rotten.com.)

    2. Re:Dummy's guide by unitron · · Score: 2
      When I saw "The Dummy's Guide to Sex", it gave me a whole new perspective on "RTFM."

      And you talking about perusing a sex manual gives a whole new perspective to your username :-)

      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

    3. Re:Dummy's guide by jsse · · Score: 1

      The Dummy's Guide to Sex

      Isn't it dangerous to read this book before ever read the pre-requisite one 'The Dummy's Guide to recognize opposite sex and your sexuality'?

    4. Re:Dummy's guide by Reziac · · Score: 2

      I dunno, you'll have to ask Dr.Ruth (the author of the real "Sex for Dummies" book -- yes, it exists).

      My question is, do we really want the dummies to reproduce?? (Not that most seem to need a manual, but..)

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    5. Re:Dummy's guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I humbly recommend Dummy's guide to humor. I would have recommended Dummy's guide to spelling, except, unfortunately, I could not locate any spelling errors in your post.

    6. Re:Dummy's guide by jsse · · Score: 2

      My question is, do we really want the dummies to reproduce?? (Not that most seem to need a manual, but..)

      but they don't read, even they bought lots of books? :D

  47. Keep It Simple Stupid by crotherm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By far the best manuals, in my not so humble opinion, are Unix man pages. They tell you EVERYTHING you need to know without fluff. The first time I started using unix, I was given the System V Rel 3 programmers, user, and Administrators guide and reference manuals. I read them all and the rest is history. If i want to be entertained, I will read fiction. If I want info, then don't sugar coat it, just give it.

    The exeption to this rule has been some of the Nutshell books that are both informative and entertaining. But if you try to add too much humor, the message gets diluted.

    --
    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK
    1. Re:Keep It Simple Stupid by gwernol · · Score: 1, Troll

      By far the best manuals, in my not so humble opinion, are Unix man pages. They tell you EVERYTHING you need to know without fluff.

      I'd have to disagree. The UNIX man pages are awful for many if not most tasks.

      To start with, "man" is an awful command to access the help system with. Even if you know you want to access the manual, man is a poor choice of command name - why not manual? Why not help?

      Leaving that aside, look at the contents. Yes, you're right man lists EVERYTHING about a command. Everything. Its like asking someone the directions to a bar and getting an inch-by-inch description of every steps of the way. There will be the one in a million time when that's what you want. For the rest of humanity its totally inappropriate.

      Look at the start of the man entry for rm:

      "The rm utility removes the directory entry specified by each file argument. If a file has no write permission and the standard input is a terminal, the full set of permissions (in octal) for the file are printed followed by a question mark. This is a prompt for confirmation. If the answer begins with y (for yes), the file is deleted, otherwise the file remains.

      If file is a symbolic link, the link will be removed, but the file or directory to which it refers will not be deleted. Users do not need write permission to remove a symbolic link, provided they have write permissions in the directory."


      These are the first two paragraphs of 10 pages of manual. 99.9% of the time I want to remove a file and have it gone. I do not want to know about symbolic links and file permissions set in octal.

      The problem with man is that it is totally comprehensive, which means it covers every option no matter how irrelevant. Too much information is just as bad as too little because you won't be able to find the relevant nugget in the sea of obtuse and incomprehensible chatter.

      What is needed are task-oriented manuals not reference books. That will cut down the signal-to-noise ratio so that you can actually find the help you need.

      --
      Sailing over the event horizon
    2. Re:Keep It Simple Stupid by Inoshiro · · Score: 2

      "To start with, "man" is an awful command to access the help system with. Even if you know you want to access the manual, man is a poor choice of command name - why not manual? Why not help?"

      Why not manual because a 9600 baud terminal is slow. man is faster than manual anyday, and it's not that hard to remember. Plus it's not a help system, it's the system manual!

      "Look at the start of the man entry for rm:"

      I did, Troll, this is it:
      NAME
      rm - remove files or directories

      How is that for concise? The stuff you quote is a few sections down in DESCRIPTION. Complaining that it's too verbose is like complaining that the dictionary defines too many words. It's supposed to be verbose and DESCRIBE the entire program.

      I'm sure for that 0.1 percent of the time when something unuxpected happens, the extra verbosity will help you out.

      If you don't need it, don't read it -- datamining is a skill every student I know has. It's important when you need to digest a few chapters for an assignment or project. The same applies to the work world: if a manager plops a book on your desk and expects you to know a certain thing described in the book, you'd better be good at reading and comprehending.

      Task-oriented is a code-word for "doesn't want to do work, just wants the results and glory."

      --
      --
      Internet Explorer (n): Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.
    3. Re:Keep It Simple Stupid by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      They tell you EVERYTHING you need to know without fluff.

      No, they don't. They only tell you everything you need to know, provided you already know which command you need.

      The manpages do NOT answer the most essential question of all, "how do I do X?", e.g. "how do I delete a file?"

      IOW, the manpages are a good reference. But that's just part of the manual set a user needs. He also needs an introduction that answers questions like "how does a terminal window work" and "which commands do I need for task X".

    4. Re:Keep It Simple Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also need the info "Whats a computer?" and "Why should I use it?" ... If these questions isnt answered, I dont beleave he could (or should) use one.

      Same goes for a Unix machine, if he never got the information that "man == manual" "ls == list files" "rm = remove files"

    5. Re:Keep It Simple Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get real, the man pages for awk are nearly useless unless you already know awk. The same can be said of the bash pages. When I write shell scripts, I code in bash, tcl, ruby, perl, and ksh, I have to have a dead tree handy because the man pages tend to be so obfucated.

      Infact last night I was having a sendmail error, all the documentation said, "This is the defult setting" I finally found a documentation which said otherwise, on RedHat's website.

      Frequently the man pages discuss every minute detai, but not how to use them. GNU unilities are particularly bad about this.

      I will make some exceptions though, HP-UX on the other hand has much more comprehensive pages with examples of how to use a particular command, uuencode not only has the usage syntax, but how to pipeline it with mailx. That's good documentation.

      Let's not even touch on the useless docs that ship with ant. I don't know how anybody learnes to use ant from them. shure they're detailed, but explaining to somebody how an internal combustion engine works does not teach them how to drive.

  48. Maxis Manuals by colmore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone remember the manuals for the old Maxis games? Those were great. I seem to remember Simlife and Simcity 2000 being particularly good, and the Simearth manual was more education than I got in all four years of middle school science.

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    In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
    1. Re:Maxis Manuals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen, brotha.

    2. Re:Maxis Manuals by BitHive · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you were in middle school for four years, maybe it wasn't the school's fault that you didn't learn much science. . .

    3. Re:Maxis Manuals by Nameles · · Score: 1

      Middle school can go from 7th to 8th grade, or 7-9, or 6-8, or 6-9.

    4. Re:Maxis Manuals by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      The SimEarth manual was _amazing_. While I was playing SimEarth I got given a geography essay thing (I was, what, thirteen?) on ecology etc.

      _crunch!_

      Two dozen pages later, into which I dragged all sorts of impressive long words, Gaia theory with added daisies, some handy biology, a bit of geology and a healthy dollop of futurology, I had to stop to eat. And get some more ink. And go play SimEarth some more.

      By the way - did you ever discover the robots? They were an undocumented sixteenth species, which appeared if a nanotech city got nuked. They were seriously tough customers and took over the world if you weren't careful. I set up a jungle world once with two large continents: Robot Armageddon Land and the Lost World of the Dinosaurs. Then I built a land bridge and watched the fun. Japanese monster movies on a global scale - muhahahaha!

      --
      Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
    5. Re:Maxis Manuals by showboat · · Score: 1

      YES! LOL!

      But I lost the manual, so I can't play. Talking about weird copy protection...

    6. Re:Maxis Manuals by isorox · · Score: 2

      Those were the days when manuals were real manuals, games were real games, and you didnt have any of these crap graphics.

      Contrast the average game manual now (2 pieces of paper saying "run d:\setup", stuffed in the cd case), compared with the 100-200 page encyclopedias in the past.

      Most of my railroad knowlege came from the railroad tycoon manual, and indeed the civilisation manual and civilopedia helped me answer quite a lot of questions through school, including one on my english gcse paper.

      Nothing beats the pisstake I took of R.E. though

      The question said something like "write down a creation story". Mine went:

      "In the begining, the earth was without form, and void.
      But the sun shone upon the sleeping earth
      and deep inside the brittle crust, massive forces waited to be unleashed...."

      And so on, almost word for word from civ 1. I wonder if I'll get sued :)

      I did like the "maual" copyprotection in those days too. After a while you could get railroad tycoon, and civ, all the time thanks to learning.

      IIRC where in the world is carman sandiago actually came with a world almanac! Learnt a lot about geography from that too - forget the game!

      I really must dig out my SimEarth manual some time, I never did get into that game.

    7. Re:Maxis Manuals by isorox · · Score: 2

      Championship manager 93 had you typing in the football score from a random page. I remember in my first term of high school some kids in the yard copying down the numbers out of the book. Much harder to beat the copy protection back then then (photocopy 50 page manual) then it is now (apply crack, play).

      I just laughed, as it was generally faster to guess "1-1" about 10 times before it let you in the game.

      The good old days....

      I was impressed with the RT2 linux manual though, and civ 3's wasnt bad for a modern manual.

    8. Re:Maxis Manuals by colmore · · Score: 2

      YES!!!! OHMYGOD! I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED FOR _YEARS_!!!

      God, I couldn't have been older than 11, and I distinctly remember this happening. The robots appeared and within a few thousand years, had covered the *entire* surface of the planet, both land and water. They drove everything else to extinction. Probably powering their civilization on human baby batteries...

      Anyway, I'd started to think that I was making up a false memory, or that I had just dreamed that it happened... (what you guys didn't dream about your video games when you were 11?)

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      In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
    9. Re:Maxis Manuals by colmore · · Score: 2

      four years in middles school: i went to a bizarre private school that started middle school in the 5th grade. elementary was 1-4, middle was 5-8, high was 9-12. the only explanation i can come up with was someone was obsessive compulsive and liked seeing 3 groups of 4.

      and while i'm wasting space on silly, off-topic things:

      about SimLife and SimEarth. I think it's about time we had an update on these! I would love to see both titles brough up-to-date.

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      In Capitalist America, bank robs you!
    10. Re:Maxis Manuals by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      The dinosaurs kept the robots down for a long time in my world. The robots were :-¦ everywhere, but since most of the land was jungle, the dinos were :-) and generally did better. Of course, sooner or later climate change did for large areas of jungle, and the robots pulled ahead... They don't seem to spontaneously take to the water, but if some disaster (or Hand of God) dumps them in the water they'll thrive there. The first Robot civilisation advanced absurdly quickly - they jump _straight_ to Info Age, being, as they are, robots :-) I ended up sitting and staring as civilisation after civilisation arose, spread worldwide and then left the planet. Look out, galaxy... Of course they trashed the place, the oceans boiled off and I had a planet that made Venus look like Risa, but the robots didn't mind... And since they aren't on the 'place life' menu, you can't genocide them automatically. You have to go hunting them with volcanoes and meteors. Incidentally, I've still got my SimEarth manual at home. When I get back from uni in a few weeks I'll mail a copy of the planet data to anyone who needs it; I doubt Maxis are too concerned about piracy after all this time.

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      Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
    11. Re:Maxis Manuals by wilhelm · · Score: 1

      <AOL>Me TOO!!!<AOL>

      Man, SimEarth was THE greatest of all the Sim* games, not to mention the hardest of them all. I was able to get a proper civilization once (trichordates). The rest of my attempts usually ended up with like 30 atmospheres of pressure, which will kill pretty much anything. We really do need a SimEarth update!

  49. My favorite "documentation"... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    Not really a manual - but I kept it because it was so damn funny: The box that the Snappy (video digitizer) was sold in.

    If any of you have read the little jokes, etc all over the box (inside, outside, under flaps, etc) - you know what I mean - truely a great piece of packaging (and not a really bad product for the time).

    --
    Reason is the Path to God - Anon
  50. Dr. Bronner's Soap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dr. Bronner's Soap is a label of funny. There are quotes, facts and instructions.

    From the label:
    "Absolute cleanliness is Godliness! Who else but God gave man Love that can spark mere dust to life..."
    "DON"T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE! DILUTE! OK!"
    Buy a bottle and read the label. Its funny.

  51. at least skim it by Mystical+Presence · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember a few years back (ok 5 or 6) I skimed the manual for a piece of internal software my company had created and found a note that basicly read, if you've gotten to this point fax in this form and we will send you a copy of Myst. Ever since I've at least skimmed them.

    Never could pass up the opertunity for free stuff.

    1. Re:at least skim it by Violet+Null · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Dr. Dale Dubin put a message into his book (the 50th printing of "Rapid Interpretation of EKGs") that offered up his Thunderbird if the publisher was contacted. Of the 60,000 students who bought the book, only 5 contacted the publisher.

      http://www.snopes2.com/college/homework/foundcar.h tm

  52. Understandable, but... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The best manuals are concise and very clear.

    But once they start putting examples (this is where my dander usually gets up, for the lack of) a little inside humor isn't necessarily a bad thing. Yes, putting cartoons, particularly those in some of the older computer books I've read, fall flat, because the humor is lame or dated, and waste space. But there's nothing wrong with using 'foo' 'bar' or 'fnord' in examples. Unless the reader is so dense they take it literally, then you have to question why they have the book in their hands and rip it out of them before they do something really dangerous.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    1. Re:Understandable, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there's nothing wrong with using 'foo' 'bar' or 'fnord' in examples.



      One of my professors loved to use foo and bar in his examples in class. Although, I wonder how many people in class actually caught the joke. I also heard a story about a particular professor who liked to use XXX, YYY, ZZZ, etc. for his examples, with XXX being his favorite. One day in class he was demonstrating something over the projector and asked for a site containing "graphical content" to be parsed by his perl script. So, of course somebody shouted out "www.xxx.com" and the professor being foreign didn't realize what XXX meant to Americans. I hear it was an interesting show watching him valiently trying to close the pop-up windows as fast as they opened. :)

  53. Well Damn.. by Peridriga · · Score: 1

    I guess since the authors didn't.
    I might as well give the generic Think Geek plug.

  54. Well-designed software by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2

    Good software shouldn't need a manual. The manual should be inside in the help pages, in context-sensitive help, and simply in the overall intuitiveness of the user interfaces.

    1. Re:Well-designed software by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Good software shouldn't need a manual. The manual should be inside in the help pages, in context-sensitive help, and simply in the overall intuitiveness of the user interfaces.

      nice theory, but remember that everybody 'thinks' that they write good software, so PLEASE do jnot spread this belief around. :P

      Ugh, I hate it when installers crash. How the f*ck does software get out the door when the installer gives a divide by 0 error??

    2. Re:Well-designed software by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      Good software shouldn't need a manual. The manual should be inside in the help pages, in context-sensitive help, and simply in the overall intuitiveness of the user interfaces.

      The best piece of application software I've ever seen is Discreet's Inferno. It's complex and opaque, and the book is almost 1000 pages long. The software comes bundled with a full week of one-on-one on-site training from a Discreet trainer. The closest thing to online help it has is the fact that the manual comes with the software both in paper form and as a PDF on the CD.

      The software costs about $650,000.

      Why is it the best I've ever seen? Because, once an artist gets properly trained on it and gains just a little experience, it's just astounding. If you ever have the fortune of seeing an experienced Inferno artist use his system, pay close attention. It's almost too fast for the eye to follow. And the results are simply the best you'll ever see. Work finished on an Inferno is regularly held up as the standard to which all other effects work is compared.

      My point is this: well-designed software does not have to be intuitive or self-explanatory, despite with Henry V .009 seems to think. It is a myth, and a harmful one at that, to think that software must be obvious to the inexperienced user. It's just fine to assume that the user operating the software will be highly trained, especially if the software does something complex.

    3. Re:Well-designed software by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      In any sufficiently complicated piece of software, it becomes nigh impossible to make every aspect of every feature obvious. Context-sensitive help is not useful for discovering new features. A good manual and a trip to the restroom is the best way to learn how to use a new device/software.

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      Max V.
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    4. Re:Well-designed software by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2

      There are probably parts of this Inferno program that are well designed, I'll grant you. But if what you say about training is true, I'm confident that they could save money by redesigning the user interface and help menus. Software doesn't have to be intuitive or self-explanatory. But one of the major advantages of computers is the fact that you can make it so. There is no other technology on Earth that offers so many opportunities to either obfusticate or to explain. And obfustication is easier.

      Anything that can be put in a manual can be put in a help file.

      And anything that can be put in a help file can be put in context sensitive help file.

      I have never once seen a piece of software with a non-intuitive interface, that could not be made far more user friendly with a user interface redesign.

      Unless this week of training teaches people about something other than simply using the software, it sounds to me like your Infero software wizards have crippled an amazingly useful piece of software with a terrible interface.

    5. Re:Well-designed software by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      But if what you say about training is true, I'm confident that they could save money by redesigning the user interface and help menus.

      Before you say that, I'd recommend that you go take a look at an Inferno. I have no idea how you could do that, but I really can't see any other way for you to understand how this application's user interface works.

      Anything that can be put in a manual can be put in a help file. And anything that can be put in a help file can be put in context sensitive help file.

      But context-sensitive help is fundamentally flawed. It's great if you want to know what this button does, because you can just point to the button and get information. But if you're in the middle of a complex user interface with a thousand functions and you want to know where the modular keyer button is, context-sensitive help won't... um... help. See, in that situation, your context has no relation to what you actually want help with.

      Unless this week of training teaches people about something other than simply using the software, it sounds to me like your Infero software wizards have crippled an amazingly useful piece of software with a terrible interface.

      But you're wrong. The Inferno interface is not terrible. It's fantastic. It allows a trained individual to do what he wants to do faster and more effectively than any other similar application.

      The distinguishing thing is that Inferno (and the other applications in its family, like Fire, Smoke, and Flame) wastes no screen space. It has no menus. No floating palettes. There are no icons. Buttons abound, but they're all labeled with plain text labels. Sometimes the labels are cryptic, but once you learn their meanings, they're never ambiguous. The software comes with its own keyboard, on which each key is mapped to one or more specific functions. The primary modes of the application are literally at the operator's fingertips all the time.

      In this way, I think the Inferno user interface is vaguely comparable to the cockpit of a fighter jet. An ordinary guy, like myself, could never climb into a fighter cockpit and figure anything out just by looking at the controls. Does that mean the plane has a lousy human interface? Of course not. In fact, just the opposite. Aircraft cockpit design has evolved over decades to be as efficient as we know how to make it. Just because it's no good for you or me doesn't mean it's no good for the pilots who actually fly the thing.

      I guess I'm just saying this: it is not necessary that applications be easy to use for everyone. It is only necessary that they be easy to use for the people that need to use them.

    6. Re:Well-designed software by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2

      With a jet fighter, you have to choose. Do you build the cockpit for a highly trained naval aviator, or do you build it for some yahoo who is just now learning the ropes?

      The great advantage of software is that you don't have to make that choice. You can hide the more advanced interfaces until someone is comfortable enough to use them. Or use some other technique to hide choices from the user.

      Hiding choice is what it is all about. Good comercial software adds features, but hides choice. Don't make the user make any choices unless he wants to. That's the beauty of something like a right-click pop-up menu. It's not there until you are comfortable enough to start playing around with it.

      But context-sensitive help is fundamentally flawed...

      No, it's simply not a panacea. What you are talking about is something that can be solved by other user interface techniques. One of them is choice limitation. Are some of those choices on the screen unecessary? Another might be branch hierarchies. Can a user find what he is looking for by starting with something general and working his way down? Could a wizard help out with this? There are dozens of games to play here.

      And the beauty is that you don't have to give up the advanced user interface that the trained users love! You simply need to provide an advanced options button or some such. Of course, still user interface guidelines shouldn't be abondoned for the advanced users, but speed of interface can attained when intuitiveness is no longer the overriding concern.

    7. Re:Well-designed software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the case of specialist software like this Inferno the other poster was talking about, I reckon it is a lot cheaper for the software house to hold the week-long courses that make users productive in the expert interface, than to design a good tutorial interface for beginners. And when the software makers themselves are teaching the concepts and proper usage of using Inferno, the user probably will be much more productive after a week than if he was trying to learn to software on his own.

    8. Re:Well-designed software by foobar104 · · Score: 2

      An AC has already replied to say basically this (amazing!) but in the situation I was talking about, building a dumbed-down user interface for novices would be a huge waste of time and money for the vendor. There basically are no Inferno novices. Before anybody would hire you-- at well over $100,000 a year, going rates-- to work on a $650,000 system, you're going to have to have a clue. You might be an experienced effects artist who's just new to Inferno, but the point is that you have the basic knowledge you need to use the software.

      Can a user find what he is looking for by starting with something general and working his way down? Could a wizard help out with this? There are dozens of games to play here.

      "It looks like you're trying to apply a garbage matte to your luminance key. Would you like help with that?" Click. "This is the garbage matte wizard. It will guide you through the process of creating a garbage matte. Start by clicking the 'Next' button at the bottom of this box." (Fifteen minutes later.) "Now enter a floating-point number into the edge box to indicate how hard or soft you want the edge of the matte to be, and click 'Next.'"

      Bah. If there's any person reading this post who actually thinks "wizards" are helpful user interface innovations, please post a reply, even if it's anonymously. I don't know anyone who can stand them, even the novice users with whom I work.

      A friend and I once came to the conclusion that "wizards" are aptly named. My friend reads a lot of fantasy, and says that wizards are often mysterious hermits who jealously guard their knowledge, sharing it only reluctantly, and only after they've been defeated in hand-to-hand combat. Sounds perfect.

      I really wish you would just back down from your assertion a little. I think it's clear that you were not correct when you made the blanket statement that "good software doesn't need a manual." That's just not a universal truth.

      Of course, still user interface guidelines shouldn't be abondoned for the advanced users, but speed of interface can attained when intuitiveness is no longer the overriding concern.

      It's an unfortunate myth that computer software needs to be intuitive. Basically, "intuitive" in this context means, "I can figure out what I want to do without reading a manual or asking for help." That's bull.

      Microsoft Word-- at least the copy I was given to use at work-- comes with no manual. It depends entirely on on-line or context-sensitive help. Word is a complex piece of software, with hundreds or thousands of settings and functions. I would happily sit down for a few hours and read the manual so I could work more quickly and easily. But instead, Microsoft spends so much time trying to make their software "intuitive" (i.e., "figure it out on your own and don't bother us") that I'm forced to just slog through it.

      If Microsoft took all the programmers who work only on making the software more "intuitive" or adding context-sensitive help or "advanced" options and fired them, they could hire a team of technical writers the likes of which the world has never seen. I dare say in a hundred years, Microsoft's manual for Word might be regarded as a pinnacle of early 21st-century literature.

      But no. Instead we get, "Preparing index for first use... grind, grind."

      I guess I'm just advocating the opposite opinion from yours. You say that good software has excellent on-line context-sensitive help and wizards, so requires no documentation. I say that good software has excellent documentation, so requires no on-line context-sensitive help or wizards.

      I'm right, and you're wrong. ;-)

  55. Re:Corel: Better manual then product by fons · · Score: 2


    Any on-line links to that mini-book? I would really like to read it!)

    (Corel Photo paint is actually quite good these days. I use it everyday.)

  56. Uhhh.... by J3zmund · · Score: 1

    Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?

    It's too much work to do for lazy American conusmers who won't (or can't) read the manual anyway. Putting Hello Kitty in the instructions isn't going to reduce the number of tech support calls in this country.

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  57. You meant Engrish ? by maledictions · · Score: 1

    No offense to Japanese people or any foreigner (I am a foreign student in US) Got this from http://www.engrish.com they have picture too Submitted 9/24/99 ADAM SMITH WRITES: I spent a summer in Japan two years ago. Among my fonder memories: From a can of Blendy, an iced coffee drink: "Casual, yet rich in substance. That's how you are, and so is Blendy." From a can of Coffee Time, one of Blendy's competitors: "Well-mellowed flavor and aroma make surely you will have a refreshing drink." From a breakfast pastry package: "Through years of experience, Doutor Danish is produced from the finest materials to create a happy time on tables." From a box of ChocoBouchees, chocolate dessert cakes with vanilla icing (similar to Ding Dongs): "Confidence of creating deliciousness. This tastiness can not be carried even by both hands." From a cheap paper photo album distributed free with photo processing: "The scene still comes to mind now and then. Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us. We were veild in good old smell." [sic] Finally, the office in which I was working had a set of English instructions for the phone system that had been typed up by one of the Japanese in the office. At one point, the instructions were meant to include the sentence "Hook the phone," meaning (I assume) "hang up the phone." The author of the instructions apparently didn't know how to spell "hook", so I suppose he tried to sound it out. There is no "hoo" sound in Japanese. The closest is something like "foo", which generally gets transliterated as "fu". As for the "k" sound, the author apparently decided that in this case "ck" was more likely to be correct than just "k". So the end result of all this was that the instructions contained the sentence "Fuck the phone." For the Americans in the office, it was good for about ten minutes of barely-contained laughter. Submitted 9/24/99 ELTON BYINGTON WRITES: Perhaps the best job I ever had with this company was many years ago when I "translated" Japanese technical manuals from Engrish into English. Here's an example, from the manual for a Toho Denki (Matsushita) facsimile transmitter for Wirephotos, which has stuck with me for almost 30 years: "Care must be exorcised when handring Opiticar System as it is apts to be sticked by dusts and hand-fat." Translation: "Keep your fingers off the lens." These technical manuals were for highly specialized and sophisticated electromechanical equipment, and the Japanese-to-Engrish translators had obviously struggled mightily to convey their meaning. Unfortunately, their descriptions were more often risible than clear. When faced with a particularly egregious block of impenetrable text, my only recourse was to take the equipment apart and analyze its operation, then write the manual from scratch. Manuals for consumer electronics have improved greatly since the days when Sony warned: "Do not attempt to open cassette case as it is exquisitely fixed," in the manual for an early portable cassette recorder. It's good to know the Japanese' penchant for addleheaded Engrish expressions hasn't disappeared!

    1. Re:You meant Engrish ? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      I wonder what the ZeroWing manual looked like...

      In A.D. 1989, game was beginning...
      Player 1: What Happen?
      Player 2: Somebody set us up the game!

      Nah... I'm sure that didn't happen.

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  58. Engrish ! by xiana · · Score: 1

    I make a point of flipping through most Japanese manuals just to get a chuckle out of the Engrish.

    The Soyo P4I Fire Dragon motherboard manual was some funny $*@#, and I don't think they really meant it to be.

    -Xian

    1. Re:Engrish ! by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Soyo is a Taiwanese company by the way. All the same, their English isn't perfect either.

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    2. Re:Engrish ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The manual for my GEF3.

      Blink much as possible as to refresh your eyes.

  59. Why are there manuals anyway? by purd · · Score: 1

    How about making products that are intuitive to configure and use? Instead we have things like sendmail. Oh well.

    1. Re:Why are there manuals anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is always exchange, I would imagine that it's a lot more intuitive to install and configure rather than sendmail. I have never setup an email server, but sendmail.cf is a scary file to look at.. I would imagine that a book is required to figure that thing out.

    2. Re:Why are there manuals anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but unfortunately you're left with these combinations:

      sendmail+no book: it doesn't work
      sendmail+book: it works
      exchange+no book: it doesn't work
      exchange+book: it still doesn't work

      I hate sendmail as much as anyone (which is why I use postfix) but at least it can, with much coaxing and the appropriate goat and virgin sacrifices, be made to work, mostly. Exchange doesn't work well no matter what you do, whom you hire to fix it, how many books you or they have read, or how many virgins die on the altar.

    3. Re:Why are there manuals anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory Microsoft apologist or bastard operater post:

      "You must be incompitent."

  60. Well.... by T3kno · · Score: 2

    At least Microsoft is always translated the same :)

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  61. Go read them! NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly recommend Mackie manuals. In fact, I've read some from products I don't even use. :)

  62. Don't RTFM by Docrates · · Score: 2

    Like most people here in slashdot, I have the seemingly superhuman ability to understand how machines and devices (s/w and h/w) actually work by just looking at them. I'm sure this happens to a lot of people. It takes an incredibly complex or poorly designed user interface (and I'm not just talking computers here) to confuse people with this ability.

    Now, I don't want to sound pedantic. I'm sure there's a whole lot of "gifts" other people have that I don't.

    The problem for us is that it's pretty hard to relate to people that can't get their VCR's to stop blinking or adjust the brightness on their TV sets. Take my father for example. He once asked me what a computer program was (about two years ago). For a while there, I just looked at him, wondering if he was joking. How can someone _not_ know what a computer program is? then I thought and thought about it and realized that without our special ability, it MUST be pretty hard to figure these sort of thing out.

    Enter the manuals. Manuals are supposed to take people from not understanding how something works, to understanding, at least in general terms, how the device/machine/programs work. Unfortunately, most manuals I've read don't do this. Instead, they take people from not knowing how something works to still not knowing how it works but at least being able to use it. I believe this is a Bad Thing.

    See, we humans have the ability to understand a whole lot of things, but we've grown lazy as hell. We want to be able to drive a car without first understanding what internal combustion even means. We want to use VCR's and watch TV without first understanding what "video" is. And so on and so forth. Because of this, human knowledge is not growing at the same rate a human capacity, because most people just don't care. We want to have all the goodies, but not earn the right that knowledge gives us to use it. Instead we hack at them and struggle with them, and break them, and demand a growing tech support industry that helps us when soemthing doesn't work "as expected".

    The funny thing is, we've become soooo good at creating products that shield the user from their internal workings that we've become accustomed to it. We demadn it this way. We even approve laws against actually telling people how it really works. And then we complain when our customers don't read the manuals.

    I say, in a perfect world, all products should have basic documentation about usage and how the product actually works, and a lot of references to papers and materials that you can go to if you want to learn more. This is not what I get when I buy something nowadays. This is why I don't RTFM. And I'm pretty sure this is why a lot of people do love linux.

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    1. Re:Don't RTFM by gaudior · · Score: 2

      You've just articulated malcolm's argument in Jurassic Park. He argued that the genetic scientists were playing with things they didn't understand, and using technology just because they could. They stood on the shoulders of giants, and hadn't earned the right to use what they had been given.

    2. Re:Don't RTFM by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 2

      It always amazes me when some person asks me how to do 'foo' in program 'bar' and I figure it out with under 10 seconds of looking in menus. I've always thought most people don't do this because they are afraid of breaking something. I find it hard to belive that it just doesn't occor to people to poke around.

    3. Re:Don't RTFM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only problem with this is that not everyone can know everything. Or needs to know everything, or even should know everything. It should be possible to use things without knowing how they work, and if that grates on your engineering side, consider your brain.

    4. Re:Don't RTFM by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      "Now, I don't want to sound pedantic."

      As soon as you say something like that, it's too late.

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    5. Re:Don't RTFM by Tony-A · · Score: 2

      I find it hard to belive that it just doesn't occor to people to poke around.
      In a stranger's kitchen, get a glass and a drink of water.
      It can be easy or psychologically impossible, depending.
      Fear of hitting the wrong button can come close to producing panic.

  63. We put incentives in our manuals... by allism · · Score: 1

    Periodically we will put a message toward the back of a manual to call a specific extension at our office and leave a message to get a prize (usually consisting of a stuffed toy mascot). Since the manuals are study-specific (we do drug study software) we usually only print them in a run of about 100 at a time, which makes it easy to control how many of the little beasties we are giving out.

    I'm afraid to put any actual jokes in our documentation, we have left the occasional joke in our software (i.e. re-entering your password with significantly fewer characters than the first entry gives a smart remark) and gotten some very upset sites calling us ("My, you have some sassy software, I should report this to the sponsor"). By the time the sites actually get around to reading the documentation, they're usually pretty frustrated with whatever they can't figure out and might see jokes as snide comments directed at them (respiratory therapists are a paranoid bunch).

  64. More dummies guides for dummies... by Asprin · · Score: 2



    Abour ten years ago, there actually was a "Dummies Guide to the Apple Macintosh". Ironically**, it was bigger than the actual Mac manual.





    ** You may have to be old enough to remember the Mac vs. IBM ad campaigns from the 80's to fully appreciate this! ;)

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    - Doug McKenzie
  65. Prime manuals had some interesting humor by Black+Art · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a Prime manual from the early 1980s that has a long running joke in it.

    It is a manual for a version of "runoff", which is used for formatting documents. The examples given in the book are for a restraunt chain that servers "frog burgers". There are a whole bunch of Cthulhu references throughout.

    I need to scan some of them and post them to the net. Pretty funny.

    Another example is in the error return values in GLIBC. Included are EIEIO and EGREGIOUS and other bogus errors.

    Unfortunatly all traces of humor are removed from manuals, not due to burn out or other causes, but because Corporate America sees them as "Not Profesional".

    Funny documentation and Easter Eggs are both a causualty of the War on Fun.

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    1. Re:Prime manuals had some interesting humor by Fluid+Truth · · Score: 1

      Hear hear! I thought that the "Printer On Fire Error" was removed from Linux because of moronic corporate workers who actually thought that a printer fire could be detected by the computer. But I found it in a 2.4 kernel, so I guess Fun hasn't lost the War yet...

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      Apparently, of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.
  66. Re:Jiste zatje... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ip uw mulle

  67. Re:Corel: Better manual then product by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

    Sorry, it was a pack in. ^_^

    I have seen many simular guides, but never one with all of the information in one place and so well written.

    (well hell, I have taken COURSES in the topic that didn't communicate information as well as the guide did, LOL! Though granted having taken those courses is probebly what helped allow me to understand all of the guide. . . .)

    Hmm, on a related note, did Blizzard Entertainment Notepads (steno-book sized, you know, just flip paper pads) ship with Warcraft 2? Because if not, I seriously wonder where I got this one from, LOL!

  68. Manuals becoming obsolete? by handsomepete · · Score: 2

    Personally, I don't even bother looking at a manual for troubleshooting anymore because a lot of them (not all) tend to have the answers to questions that should come before anyone even needs to say RTFM (i.e. Q:Why won't my motherboard boot? A: There isn't a CPU in the socket). They rarely contain the things that actually go wrong (at least for me). It seems to me that a lot of companies have gotten used to leaning on the shoulders of the internet, allowing newsgroups and websites to answer all of their support questions for them, thus making the need for extensive documentation obsolete.

    However, I think this leaves Joe-Blow-Who-Doesn't-Think-To-Search-Google in the dark. Not *everyone* thinks to do that before they assume that something's broken and make a support call. Hell, half the people at my work would sooner log a call with Compaq before searching for an error code.

    So should companies even bother writing extensive information on their product if most people are going to either be too lazy to look it up, don't know to look it up, or find their own answers without the company's help?

  69. It's not lack of humor by datastew · · Score: 1

    The main reason I read less manuals than I used to is that so often the "manual" is on a CD. Two problems with this:

    1. I jealously guard the free space on my (small) hard drive.

    2. I am very efficient (lazy) and I begrudge that extra 20 seconds it takes to pop in the CD and find the answer I want.

    If I really find a manual useful, I will print out part or all of it.

  70. Re:Corel: Better manual then product by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

    Wait, I can tell you that it was with Corel Paint 8, was the complete suite of Draw + Paint.

  71. You meant Engrish ? (Edited) by maledictions · · Score: 1

    (Edited)
    No offense to Japanese people or any foreigner
    (I am a foreign student in US)

    Got this from http://www.engrish.com
    they have picture too

    Submitted 9/24/99
    ELTON BYINGTON WRITES:

    Perhaps the best job I ever had with this company was many years ago when I
    "translated" Japanese technical manuals from Engrish into English. Here's an
    example, from the manual for a Toho Denki (Matsushita) facsimile transmitter for
    Wirephotos, which has stuck with me for almost 30 years:

    "Care must be exorcised when handring Opiticar System as it is apts to be
    sticked by dusts and hand-fat."

    Translation: "Keep your fingers off the lens."

    These technical manuals were for highly specialized and sophisticated
    electromechanical equipment, and the Japanese-to-Engrish translators had
    obviously struggled mightily to convey their meaning. Unfortunately, their
    descriptions were more often risible than clear. When faced with a particularly
    egregious block of impenetrable text, my only recourse was to take the equipment
    apart and analyze its operation, then write the manual from scratch.

    Manuals for consumer electronics have improved greatly since the days when Sony
    warned: "Do not attempt to open cassette case as it is exquisitely fixed," in
    the manual for an early portable cassette recorder. It's good to know the
    Japanese' penchant for addleheaded Engrish expressions hasn't disappeared!

    Submitted 9/24/99
    ADAM SMITH WRITES:

    I spent a summer in Japan two years ago. Among my fonder memories:

    From a can of Blendy, an iced coffee drink:
    "Casual, yet rich in substance. That's how you are, and so is Blendy."

    From a can of Coffee Time, one of Blendy's competitors:
    "Well-mellowed flavor and aroma make surely you will have a refreshing
    drink."

    From a breakfast pastry package:
    "Through years of experience, Doutor Danish is produced from the finest
    materials to create a happy time on tables."

    From a box of ChocoBouchees, chocolate dessert cakes with vanilla icing
    (similar to Ding Dongs):
    "Confidence of creating deliciousness. This tastiness can not be carried
    even by both hands."

    From a cheap paper photo album distributed free with photo processing:
    "The scene still comes to mind now and then. Cake was baking in the oven
    and mother was making tea for us. We were veild in good old smell." [sic]

    Finally, the office in which I was working had a set of
    English instructions for the phone system that had been typed up by one of
    the Japanese in the office. At one point, the instructions were meant to
    include the sentence "Hook the phone," meaning (I assume) "hang up the
    phone."

    The author of the instructions apparently didn't know how to spell "hook",
    so I suppose he tried to sound it out. There is no "hoo" sound in
    Japanese. The closest is something like "foo", which generally gets
    transliterated as "fu". As for the "k" sound, the author apparently
    decided that in this case "ck" was more likely to be correct than just
    "k".

    So the end result of all this was that the instructions contained the
    sentence "Fuck the phone." For the Americans in the office, it was good
    for about ten minutes of barely-contained laughter.

  72. Find humor in the everyday things. by datastew · · Score: 1

    Actually I used to read the Taiwanese motherboard manuals both for the information and for the really funny Engrish.

  73. Volkswagen repair by Froze · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know about software manuals, but when I was a 9 yr old kid I got my first bruised knuckle replacing a starter in a volkswagon van (also happened to be my home :). I found the manual to be very helpfull and quite entertaining, I believe it was called "How to keep your volswagen alive, a repair manual for the complete idiot". Very well written and full of highly entertaining bits. I wish more manuals were written in this style.

    Ahhh, nostalgia, but I would not own a VW even if it was given to me, easy to work on but you had to, all the time :)

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    1. Re:Volkswagen repair by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      I had the same book! It was written by some old surfer guy from Santa Cruz.

      I still remember bit of his advice: "Makre sure you prop up the engine hood so it doesn't but you in the head." or something like that.

      The great thing was that it was written in layman's terms. Sure, it was much bigger than it needed to be, but it sure made me glad to have it around when I was replacing my first starter.

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      If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
    2. Re:Volkswagen repair by istewart · · Score: 1

      The guy's name was John Muir, IIRC. He died a few years back, but the book is continually reprinted. I believe I have a copy of the 25th anniversary edition somewhere around here, and it's on something like its 20th revision/printing.

      BTW, if anyone ever offers you an old VW and you don't want it, send them my way. I can always use more additions to my collection/parts heap. :)

  74. Cart swapping on the N64 and GBA by yerricde · · Score: 1

    You know how you're not supposed to remove a game cartridge while you're playing?

    Not necessarily. On the Game Boy Advance, if part of a program is running entirely from RAM, it is completely safe to pull out the cartridge and put in another one while the power is on. Now that Square is a licensed GBA developer, we may begin to see RPGs that are so big that they won't fit on one 8-megabyte cartridge. (Nintendo currently won't manufacture a cartridge with more data than 8 megabytes.)

    Of course Nintendo doesn't document everything correctly. The first version of the N64 manual stated that you can't even plug in or out controllers or memory cards while the power was on, until Nintendo introduced a Rumble Pak. The new manuals contained detailed instructions for how to "pak-swap" safely.

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    1. Re:Cart swapping on the N64 and GBA by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "Of course Nintendo doesn't document everything correctly."

      Speaking of not documenting stuff correctly, the SNES manual says one must 'flip off the power switch' in order to turn off the SNES. Seems a bit rude, doesn't it? :)

      About the Rumble Pak: Unfortunately, it was probably concieved after the release of the N64. Notably, the screen will tell you exactly when you can remove the mem card. It's giving you special case permission to do so.

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  75. Re:Linux has solved the problem of manual translat by Stackis · · Score: 1

    I do :)

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  76. Maybe a tad off topic, but Fallout... by HexRei · · Score: 1

    ...the RPG's Fallout 1 and 2 had some of the best manuals I have ever seen for a game. Interesting, witty, cool, informative. They taught you how to play the game and contributed to the immersion factor at the same time.
    I loved the recipes for post-nuclear food in the back :)

  77. two words - man condom.1 by grunby · · Score: 3

    If only man pages were like this
    There are a huge bunch more right here

    - [grunby]

  78. Boy, did they miss an opportunity by drew_kime · · Score: 4, Funny
    And while Italian and French users were very happy with printer documentation that included pictures of naked women with slim, strategically placed tinted bars showing how colors were reproduced, Esposito doubts that particular manual will be used anywhere else.
    Hell if they released that manual around here I suspect it would get "used" pretty extensively.
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    1. Re:Boy, did they miss an opportunity by Indras · · Score: 2

      Not for long... manuals don't really serve much of a purpose after the pages are stuck together.

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      The speed of time is one second per second.
    2. Re:Boy, did they miss an opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the French have developed methods to remove such 'stains' from paper. The material is, I believe, later put to practical uses, such as glueing together large iron towers (you didn't think that they use bolts and rivets alone, did you?) and increasing the number of people on social welfare.

  79. Japanese manuals are funny.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....yeah, and Anime makes sense.

    Follow posts will be:

    "You just don't 'get it'".

    "Typical American ignorance. If it isn't spelled out for them they don't understand it."

    "You are dumb."

    blah blah blah

  80. That oxymoron is there for a reason by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    American manuals are funny.

    This page intentionally left blank.


    Yes it's an oxymoron and its self-contradiction is funny. But having it on otherwise-blank pages of manuals is really quite important.

    Without it, the people in the technical publications department (and readers of the manual) are likely to spend time trying to determine if the page is blank due to an error. Manuals are delayed and costs rise. And if there is not a policy to insert the phrase on blank pages, manuals may occasionally be published with one or more blank pages that aren't SUPPOSED to be blank.

    (Of course the humor of that catchphrase has led to parodies. Example: An experimental microchip that (due to the early silicon compiler's tendency to group repetitive circuitry tightly) had some large, rectangular chunks of the chip unused. So the deisngers hand-instantiated that lettering in the blank area.

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    1. Re:That oxymoron is there for a reason by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 2, Funny
      I wrote an user manual for a software company, and every chapter had to end on an even page (to make it easier to swap in upgraded chapters). A blank page could be troublesome because (as pointed out) the absence of something is not a reliable indication of anything. So I was instructed to add the "This page intentionally left blank" bit.

      I got tired of seeing the same thing over 6 or 8 chapters, so each was a variation on the wording.

      • This page intentionally left blank
      • This page left blank intentionally
      • Intentionally, this page was left blank
      • Blank page intentionally left

      And so on.

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      Choose the red pill
    2. Re:That oxymoron is there for a reason by foobar104 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Once, just to see if anybody noticed, I included this notice on the last page of some internal-only documentation:

      "This page inadvertently left blank."

      I don't think anybody caught it.

    3. Re:That oxymoron is there for a reason by texchanchan · · Score: 2

      Then there's

      This page intentionally blank, but not any more

    4. Re:That oxymoron is there for a reason by richie2000 · · Score: 2
      I used to stick things like

      This page intentionally left almost completely blank

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      Money for nothing, pix for free
    5. Re:That oxymoron is there for a reason by Yer+Mom · · Score: 1

      You are in a maze of twisty little blank pages, all different.

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  81. re: Is this just too much work for our lazy .. by maxl_stylee · · Score: 1

    Uh? Is it too much work to just read the manual? Why should manufactures have to spruce them up?

  82. Know thy audience. Index carefully. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm a professional. This is a complex piece of equipment/software/etc. Please leave out the crap (remove the top foam piece and set aside carefully) so I can concentrate on the important parts.

    Have a complete and well done index. It may be in the manual but I'm not going to read hundreds of pages to find it. If it isn't easy to find in the index it might as well not be in the book.

    Document ALL messages. When I see an error message I head straight to the index to find the cause/solution. You took the effort to generate the message - now finish the job.

    Give examples - they are worth their weight in gold.

    My first stop in almost any manual is the "in case of trouble" section. There you will find all *real* cautions and the answers for most tech-support questions.

  83. RTFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.goatse.cx

  84. My 1604 manual rocks.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mackie manuals are the bomb even better then plextor manuals.

  85. A bank did that once by drew_kime · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I skimmed the manual for a piece of internal software my company had created and found a note that basicly read, if you've gotten to this point fax in this form and we will send you a copy of Myst.

    I read a while ago (no, I can't find a reference) that a bank sent out an update to the terms of service for their credit cards. Buried somewhere in the middle was a line telling you that all you had to do was call a number and they would credit your account $5. They wanted to see how many people actually read the change.

    IIRC the response rate was under 1%. I try to tell myself[1] that they weren't doing this as a prelude to screwing their customers even harder.

    [1] What I say when I don't want to think about something I have no control over that I am absolutely convinced is true.

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    1. Re:A bank did that once by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2

      Earlier this year I read about a case where, in fine print in the back of a college text book under the copyright notices was the note "send a letter to this address mentioning this will recieve a new car." I don't remember what car, but it was a pretty expensive one, I think. Someone finally did, after the book had been in print for several years, I think. The kid got the car. Wish I could find the news article though.

      --
      A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
  86. best manual I have is for a 1-button device! by Audent · · Score: 2, Funny

    it's a Russell Hobbs coffee grinder but the book is so funny I read it from cover to cover ... "count to five when grinding.. better to do so in your head or people will think you're a bit odd..." or something like that. bloody good.

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    I am a leaf on the wind
  87. This reminds me of ... by sumarou · · Score: 2, Funny

    a portion of the README included in WindowMaker:

    Congratulations! You have purchased an extremely fine device that would give you thousands of years of trouble-free service, except that you undoubtably will destroy it via some typical bonehead consumer maneuver. Which is why we ask you to PLEASE FOR GOD'S SAKE READ THIS OWNER'S MANUAL CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU UNPACK THE DEVICE. YOU ALREADY UNPACKED IT, DIDN'T YOU? YOU UNPACKED IT AND PLUGGED IT IN AND TURNED IT ON AND FIDDLED WITH THE KNOBS, AND NOW YOUR CHILD, THE SAME CHILD WHO ONCE SHOVED A POLISH SAUSAGE INTO YOUR VIDEOCASSETTE RECORDER AND SET IT ON "FAST FORWARD", THIS CHILD ALSO IS FIDDLING WITH THE KNOBS, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, RIGHT??? WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST BREAK THESE DEVICES RIGHT AT THE FACTORY BEFORE WE SHIP THEM OUT, YOU KNOW THAT?
    -- Dave Barry, "Read This First!"

    1. Re:This reminds me of ... by starling · · Score: 1

      I found a copy of the full version here.

      My favourite bit :

      INSTRUCTIONS: For results that can be the finest, it is our advising that: Never to hold these buttons two times!! Except the battery. Next, taking the (something) earth section may cause a large occurrence! However. If this is not a trouble, such rotation is a very maintenance action, as a kindly (something) viewpoint from Drawing B.

  88. Blame the biz guys by Grey+Haired+Luser · · Score: 1

    I'm currently writing manuals for our products.
    I'm trying to write them so as to not be TOTALLY
    boring, say, a bit in the style of Larry Wall's
    Camel book.

    Biz reviews it and tells me to rewrite it because
    it's unprofessional.

    What's a guy to do?

    1. Re:Blame the biz guys by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

      Outthink them. Make the humor so good that they don't even notice that it's there. No, I mean it. Then you win.

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      There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
      Max V.
      NeXTMail/MIME Mail welcome
  89. The Poster Seems to Have a Pot & Kettle Proble by Omega · · Score: 2
    Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?

    I can't help but laugh at the irony of the poster calling American manufacturers lazy for not putting knock-knock jokes in their product manuals to get the lazy American CONSUMER to RTFM. ;)

  90. More information on Clarus... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    here.

    -- The_Messenger

  91. Situation dependant by LBrothers · · Score: 1

    Certainly there are situations where humor in manuals, or going off topic, is quite valuable. The SimCity manuals (and most other good gaming manuals) are great examples. While they are discussing how to build roads a side note discusses Roman road construction. An Engineering manual (or some IT manuals) would be terribly thick if this happened though. An occasional play on words that makes you laugh is all that should be allowed in these cases. Who needs a 1000 page book to be 1500 pages? And lastly there are the manuals that fall somewhere in between. The key in these situations is to use non-distracting jokes that let the reader ignore them if they want. The big PUN jokes aren't fun the third time you reference the material.

    1. Re:Situation dependant by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      The author obviously needs to use better puns. :)

      I would say that a 1500 page book with 1000 pages of information is well worth it if it allows the reader to remember 750 pages of actual information VS a 1000 page pure information book that the reader can remember MAYBE 500 pages max from

    2. Re:Situation dependant by foobar104 · · Score: 2
      Oh, I don't know. I'm still a big fan of Mr. Bunny's Big Cup of Java. My copy includes this salient piece of wisdom:
      Implementation details are beyond the scope of the Java virtual machine specification. One should not assume that every virtual machine implementation contains a giant squid.
      The author's web site, mrbunny.com, is pretty funny, too. It includes this:
      My editor, Gary Swanberg, has been taking authorship credit for my book "Mr. Bunny's Guide to ActiveX", publicly claiming that I do not exist. [ Editor's note: he doesn't.] I wish to address his claims.

      First, Swanberg could not possibly have written the ActiveX book. He knows nothing about raising rabbits, and very little about animal husbandry in general. Sure, he can program a computer, but bunnies, particularly talking bunnies, are completely beyond him. In fact, he tried to cut Mr. Bunny from the book entirely. "Rabbits can't talk," he said. "They use telepathy to put thoughts into our heads. Why do you think their ears are so big?"
    3. Re:Situation dependant by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

      Rabbits can't talk! That's CRAZY!

      - Brian Fellows

      --

      It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
  92. Think of the money they could save on tech support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which could be channelled to commercial artists to help with the manuals, which would draw commercial artists away from the fucking advertising industry and put them to work doing something useful.

    (By 'something useful' I mean 'teaching people something', in case you didn't get that.)

  93. Definitive Japanese language humor by SeanAhern · · Score: 5, Funny
    If you find this kind of stuff funny, you will be rolling on the floor after reading engrish.com.

    Example:

    MULTI_PURPOSE POCKET KNIFE

    CAUTION
    BLADE EXTREMELY SHARP
    KEEP OUT OF CHILDREN

    :-)
  94. How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive for the Compleat by obtuse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive for the Compleat Idiot by John Muir (can be found or ordered at a local bookstore)

    It's a repair manual so well written that I read it more than once, even before I had a VW. It taught me a lot about auto repair, and reinforced what I learned in High School auto shop.

    He's funny. He has nice line drawings.

    He also editorialized. He refused to explain how to fix an automatic choke because he felt that the choke was bad for the car. The choke allows you to drive the car before it's warm. His suggestion was to roll a cigarette while waiting for the car to warm up, rather than cause excessive wear by putting a load on a cold engine. The edition I read was definitely an artifact of the 1970s.

    Unfortunately, most manuals cannot be written in such a literate fashion. He had the luxury of explaining auto maintenance. These are concrete, well-understood, and intuitive concepts. The example vehicle is the air-cooled VW, technology is well over fifty years old, and consequently simple.

    I usually need manuals (for instance) to document a poorly designed or arbitrary interface to a product whose mechanism of action I may not ever fully understand, and will (if I am lucky) never use again. Sometimes I need manuals to provide detailed specifications for an implementation of a process that I already understand well. Neither of these is much of an opportunity for an author.

    There are still plenty of opportunities for well written manuals, but since most vendors seem to regard mere accuracy as a luxury, I never expect them to be literature.

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  95. Unintentional funniness... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    My company developed a techonology for viewing video on the web. (No, you've never heard of it, but it was a pretty cool deal. Too bad we don't do it anymore or I'd brag about it.) Since I'm the multimedia guy, they wanted me to write the section on how to improve video quality while making the file size smaller. At one point, I was describing how sometimes you're better off lowering the resolution of a video instead of increasing the compression ratio.

    I used a picture of George Bush in mid-speech to illustrate my point. When using the lower resolution, the picture was pretty clear. But when I used a higher compression setting (at the higher res) to achieve the same data rate, his mouth became two big pixels, resembling Bender a little bit.

    I drew an arrow to his mouth, drawing attention to the loss of detail, with the caption "See how the mouth loses definition?"

    Too bad my manager caught that before it went out, heh.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:Unintentional funniness... by frisket · · Score: 1
      In my book on SGML and XML Tools I used a well-known mathematical expression in the examples of markup (given here in TeX notation: you have to speak it)

      b_4i\sqrt{u}(ru\over 16)qt\pi

      The publisher never noticed, and the two reviewers who did, mailed me to say they were sufficiently amused to keep quiet about it; and I've had mail from a handful of readers :-)

      I used it in the XML FAQ until several anal-retentives from corporate mid-America complained, then I weakened and took it out. Maybe now that Moz supports MathML I can put it back...

    2. Re:Unintentional funniness... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      hahah!! That was great!! Good one! :)

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  96. Apple does it too by ProfKyne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll never forget -- when I was just a kid, back in the mid-late eighties, my father had just upgraded our Macintosh to a Mac Plus. As he was reading one of the owner's manuals, he started laughing, and I asked him what was so funny.

    "Oh, nothing," he said.

    Still, I pressed him.

    "It says here in the setup steps, 'First, eat some chocolate'".

    "What's that supposed to mean?" I asked. I honestly had no idea why "Eat some chocolate" would be written in a computer manual.

    "Oh, programmers are just weird," he chuckled.

    Ever since then I've had a healthy respect for computer programmers.

    --
    "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
    1. Re:Apple does it too by hardcode · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall AUX 0.9 (or was it 1.0) had this in the docs.

      For truely bad documentation try man sudoers

      hc

    2. Re:Apple does it too by Phroggy · · Score: 2

      From /etc/rc on Mac OS X:

      ##
      # Set shell to ignore Control-C, etc.
      # Prevent lusers from shooting themselves in the foot.
      ##


      The Apple Pro Mouse Whitepaper, a PDF available from here, includes in the fine print at the bottom of the last page:

      Apple does not recommend allowing an elephant to operate a Mac in any environment.

      This is in reference to a statement made earlier in the document about what would happen if an elephant stepped on this mouse.

      The data fork of the System file in System 7.01 (and probably other versions) contained this text:

      Help! Help! We're being held prisoner in a system software factory!

      Subsequent versions, according to here:

      Help! Help! We're still being held prisoner in a system software factory!

      Help! Help! He's STILL being held prisoner in a system software factory!

      Mercenaries hit the factory and freed the prisoners.

      --
      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
  97. Mackie Designs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mackie, manufacturer of pro audio equiment, inserts a lot of humor in their manuals

  98. The author must be both nerd and comedian by Jon+Howard · · Score: 1

    ...to pull this off.

    Well, maybe that's a bit imprecise. What I'm attempting to get at is this: the author has to have an extremely good idea what's going on to be able to joke about the process without drawing a bad analogy and lowering the quality of the manual by confusing the reader. In addition to that understanding, the author also has to be funny - not Chris Rock funny, but at least have a grasp of irony to work with.

    The point is, most of the technical folks who have a sense of humor and write documentation already find a way to weasel this into their work, by making this common practice, we'll end-up with a lot of formulaic Marketoid humor injected into references unnecessarily.

    Just my two cents.

  99. MetaTools did something neat... by stubear · · Score: 2

    While this didn't really encourage one to read the manual, their animation software (RayDream and Bryce) manuals had a tiny flip book in the corner. A couple topics caught my attention while flipping through and watching the submarine float around and I read those but I rarely had to reference the manual.

    Personally I want my manuals to remain straight forward and informative. I don't want cute anecdotes or useless tutorials, just information. If I want the latter I'll buy a third party book which covers the material in this manner. The other thing I don't want is HTML help systems to replace the printed manuals. HTML help manuals are so poorly designed it's more cumbersome to search through them than it is a dead tree edition.

  100. lazy American manufacturers? by deanj · · Score: 1
    Hey, they're not the ones not reading the manuals. It's US.

    Look, I don't know what the big deal is. If you don't want to read a manual, that's up to you.

  101. Blender Manual by 7String · · Score: 1

    One of the most visually interesting manuals that I've seen is NaN's "Blender 1.5" (or the later 1.8) manual. Maybe it's the Euro-rave sensibility of the creators, but I truly enjoyed reading this manual, and I have a copy of it sitting on my coffee table for others to peruse. It was actually worth the price, just for the layout and visuals alone, even if I had never intended to use Blender at all.

    --

    It isn't a memory leak. It's an object life-span issue.
  102. H/T Keep your VW alive for the Compleat Idiot by obtuse · · Score: 1

    A great book for learning about auto repair in general. He tells you what to do, but best of all, explains why. He even convey considerable personality.

    I wish I had a copy now. I'd read it all over again. Who knows though, maybe it's not as good as I remember. I'll look it up next time I'm in a bookstore.

    I posted about it below, but I guess I took too long to write that post. I'm just not quick enough on the keyboard, except on the days when I post something that's so cranky that I'm embarassed.

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  103. My Bablefish can your ass kick! by gelfling · · Score: 2

    next the expensive dispendio and to each heart never argues on sysadmin on the technology and the attendance _ manual uniform not l, that one acompanh product, that I compr (however, if it has whiz instruction however fromage real necessity), majorly to rather bad desapareç! The article speaks on the direction, as some countries that, understood Japan, in condimentar in relati manual ones you of the tests of the product, customers to interest, the end to read it. The work is this too much fair, in the way this our records American them supplying them of a valve

  104. I Want a Manual, Not a Comic Book by John+Hasler · · Score: 2

    "Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?"

    I certainly hope so. Those Hungarian manuals, on the other hand, sound like just the thing.

    --
    Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
  105. Comprehensive kb/mouse/speaker manual by Nyktos · · Score: 1

    on the box my kb/mouse/speakers came in:

    "Please read the product instruction carefully before you use and don't use on the other purpose which instructions does not mention"

  106. So horribly, horribly unfunny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You, sir, are a fucking moron.

  107. Reminds me by cascino · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me a bit of a chapter in the 1991 Honda Accord's user manual, entitled "Shitting the Five Speed."

    1. Re:Reminds me by stevey · · Score: 2

      I've had a Honda motorbike once which had a big sticker on the fuel tank which says:

      Remember - preserve nature, always wear a helmet, think safety

      Made me laugh anyway...

  108. solution. by cpeterso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    instead of "this page intentionally left blank", they should use a graphic design, such as the company logo (!) in page corner. No one's intelligence is insulted and the design does not need to localized to different languages.

  109. If you need the manual... by vanyel · · Score: 2

    ...then the product is designed badly. As with all rules, there are exceptions, but for most consumer products and gui software I think there are very few.

  110. The Manufacturer or the consumer?? by Tazzy531 · · Score: 2

    "Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?"

    Is it the lazy manufacturers' or the lazy consumers' fault that people don't read the manual?

    But on another note, because of the letigious nature of this country, the manufacturer has to cover its ass with a bunch of worthless and stupid warnings. The more warnings that they put on the package/manual, the less likely the consumer will read it.

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    _______________________________
    "I'm not Conceited...I'm just a realist..."
  111. Dummy's guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I saw "The Dummy's Guide to Sex", it gave me a whole new perspective on "RTFM."

  112. Suggestion for Windows Installer by be-fan · · Score: 2

    Here is my suggestion for the Windows install program to make this "not reading the manual" thing go away. Before the user is allowed to log in for the first time, he would have to complete a quiz about the contents of the manual. The first question would be something like "what is the clock latency of the BSR instruction on the Pentium Pro?" Answering this question right would allow REAL users to skip the rest of the quiz. You know it's a great idea! Tell MS:

    e-mail: mailto:mswish@microsoft.com
    fax: (425) 936-7329
    post:
    Microsoft Corporation
    Attn. Microsoft Wish Program
    One Microsoft Way
    Redmond, WA 98052-6399

    --
    A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
  113. Examples of Japanese Documentation by LionKimbro · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Japanese documentation is vastly superior to US documentation; I believe it's because of the influence of manga in their culture. They are expert in communicating with pictures, and a culture that not only tolerates it, but expects it. (In the United States, pictures are held with suspicion, and a sign of a lack of knowledge.)

    Read some good Japanese documentation to understand what I am talking about:

    The first is translated into English, the second hasn't been translated yet. The first book explains Fourier, starting with basic trig.

    In the US, our educational material is very poor. Pictures are either not present when they should be, or present when they shouldn't be. Marketting tastes usually move people towards glossy pictures over iconic representations that do a much better job of abstracting the message (read Chapter 2 of Understanding Comics to understand this well). Many technical people know that the images in our books are not there to help explain things, but rather, to sell books, and thus hold pictures in contempt. "Just give me the text symbols, and leave out the nonsense cute pictures. AraRararrARarr!" is a common attitude here, and it harms us, because we are not open to diagrams when they will help us.

    I have seen many other examples of Japanese documentation, but I don't own them, so I can't list them here. Go to your local Japanese communities bookstore, though, and look for Linux documentation or educational materials. (They seem to think the Penguin is kawaii.) They are quite different than ours- beyond just different types of characters.

    1. Re:Examples of Japanese Documentation by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2

      While I do agree that US books can be pretty awful (my calc book wastes room with photographs that dont benefit the point), the Japanese material that you linked to is... well... weird. There is a reason that pictures are not as popular in the US: we want to teach reading for content. In other countries, reading for content is taught in language classes... not so in the US where English classes are usually more about analyzing literature for "deep meaning". Non-graphical books are a way to teach technical reading - you have to read and follow the directions to complete the assignment. If every manual were graphical then this wouldn't be a problem. But manuals aren't that way. Look at IRS documentation. Do you really think that the IRS is going to put nice pictures in their tax form instructions? Of coruse not. The documentation is already 50+ pages for a basic 1040, with nice, easy-to-understand graphics it would be 500+ pages! There are also some things that just can't be expressed graphically. The fact is that we need technical reading skills and until they are taught in english classes the only way to teach them is with non-graphical textbooks.

    2. Re:Examples of Japanese Documentation by JimBobJoe · · Score: 2

      There's some odd logic here, and it's driving me insane. I don't believe that the reason for not embracing pictures as much over here is "we want to teach reading for content."

      The reason is, culturally, we don't like pictograms as much...and it has nothing to do with some higher motive to teach people how to read technical manuals. If that motive was there, we probably would be teaching it some other way, since technical material has this amazing property to alienate everyone except for the most avid individuals. I'm gonna attempt to keep this rant short, but there is a deep cluelessness among some extremely educated individuals on how to teach certain subjects--textbooks about Economics are some of the worst...but so are some about Mathematics, Chemistry--well, the list goes on and on. Plenty of opportunities there to practice your technical reading skills, but I bet few people are truly learning how to read that way.

      Each page of the book shown is so easy and nice to read...I think that just about anyone will understand what's going on. You're right that each page is not teaching all that much--its entirely possible that a good editor could take that book, translate it into techinical language, and make it only 15 pages long.

      On the other hand, people who actually go through that book will not only be more likely to enjoy learning about Fourier transformations, they are also far more likely to understand thoroughly. Then, having a good understanding of some pretty complex mathematical concepts, those individuals will have an easier time reading some lame technical documentation, because they have a clearer understanding of concepts. In fact, graphical documentation fosters better technical reading abilities than simply reading technical documentation.

      Continuing my rant, one of the things you learn about second language acquisition is that there is a huge learning drop after about 20-30 minutes. Quality language tapes only last for half an hour per lesson. Now some may say that you should teach longer, since a person going to another country will be immersed the entire time in the language--however, the brain learns best in short time spans, and someone who has had short language classes will have mastered the language better than someone who has painfully labored through 2 hour classes.

    3. Re:Examples of Japanese Documentation by LionKimbro · · Score: 2

      I agree with JimBobJoe.

      The Fourier book is not lacking content-wise. It is quite an extraordinary book.

      Your argument seems to be essentially: "It is important that we make bad books, because if we didn't, people wouldn't be able to read bad books, and that'd be bad, because bad books would be inaccessible to those people." I disagree entirely. A lot of the reason that we *have* bad books is because people have almost never seen a good book.

      Its very rare that I've seen a block of text that couldn't be supported with a diagram of some sort.

  114. What!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read every manual before installing a piece of equipment, if only for the sole reason that I do not want to be responsible for the destruction of equipment that costs more then my life.

    1. Re:What!?!? by Keith_Beef · · Score: 1

      Either you play with very costly equipment, or your life is worth very little

  115. Washington Post had a similar article by nolife · · Score: 2, Interesting

    in last weeks paper. It's online. Geared more toward consumer electronics but more interesting then wired's column.

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  116. Actually by CaptTrips · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The article talks about how there are companies whose sole function is to take native documentation and translate it into another language. Sounds easy, but it's not. These companies deal with all sorts of native land societal, religious and fundamental PC.

    Different societies have different views of their world. For example, in the U.S., documentation tends to use a lot of humor to keep things light and lively. This isn't so in Europe. Hungarians know that everything will eventually break and being the industrious do-it-their-selfers they want their manuals to read like a Chilton book. Japanese manuals often contain creative cartoons that if placed in another country's documentation, viewers may not take the company and their product serious.

    Another humorous tidbit included several paragraphs describing an event where the box-art for Painter 5 contained a left opened hand palm with flames coming out of it. The article indicated that in several countries the left hand is considered unclean and showing the open palm is extremely offensive. The cake icing flesh burning wasn't smart too.

    Though I found the article somewhat lacking is detail. Countries even take offense to certain fonts and colors being used. This is one of the main reasons why most companies like Macromedia, Microsoft and IBM tend to go take the safe route and from the get-to use ubiquitous type styles and colors for their corporate branding, product designs and websites.

    All in all this article was is a great read.

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  117. Shut up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up faggot.

  118. Omni Group actually has funny manuals... by juanfe · · Score: 1

    Their user guides for OmniGraffle (one of the best diagramming tools i've ever had the pleasure of using) and OmniWeb (again, a glorious Mac OS browser with popup dialog squelching, real cookie management, banner ad obliteration, and other great goodies) are extremely enjoyable to read--you can tell the writers had fun putting the documentation together.

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  119. Typical Project Planning by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1
    Approach Some Companies Seem Take For Documentation..

    Phase 1: Create/Manufacture Product
    Phase 2: ???
    Phase 3: Profit!!

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  120. Sueage by Apreche · · Score: 2

    American's don't fudge around when it comes to manuals and other stuff like warning labels and other such things. Because of the abundance of stupid lawsuits. I can see it now.

    Normal Instructions:
    Firmly insert the 3 pronged power cable into a grounded outlet.

    Funny Instructions:
    I think you know what to do with the power cable...

    Results: I shoved the power cable in my ass and I had a million dollars in proctologist fees. Their instructions are the reason I shoved somethign in my anus. I want money!

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  121. Re:Corel: Better manual then product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Majorly OT.

    Hey, since you use it every day (Corel 10, right?), how do you get to see your current coordinates in Photopaint? I actually figured out by dragging lots of things onto the status bar that there is a way to display current coords, as well as selection width. However, the annoying part is that once you start selecting, the current coords don't change! they just stay at wherever you started the selection. So you have to manually add in the selection width/height to determine where you are at. So maybe you know how to make it so the REALLY current coordinates are shown?

  122. The Instructions on a Box of Toothpicks by netsharc · · Score: 1

    Hold stick near centre of its length. Moisten pointed end in mouth. insert in tooth space, blunt end next to gum. Use gentle in-out motion.

    RIP Douglas Adams.

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  123. sum up everything... by edrugtrader · · Score: 2

    ok, everyone's comments are basically: "this company does it too and i love the manuals... i read them all."

    so to answer the question: No, this is not too much work, the users enjoy the product and use it. therefore you'll get less tech support calls, and users who will become brand loyal just to get the next manual.

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  124. Backup dump humor (warning: juvenile) by Creosote · · Score: 5, Funny
    When I was first trying to learn my way around a timesharing Unix system, in about '82, I checked out an early Unix book from the library. As I recall, there was a chapter called "Dumps", with sections entitled "Why You Need to Take a Dump", "When to Take a Dump", and "How to Take a Dump".


    I may not remember it 100% verbatim, but that was the gist of it. Honest truth. (And it was otherwise a very dense and serious book.)

    1. Re:Backup dump humor (warning: juvenile) by rnturn · · Score: 2
      ``"Why You Need to Take a Dump", "When to Take a Dump", and "How to Take a Dump"''

      There was an IBM manual from about the same time (maybe earlier) that suggested that when a certain error occurred that you should take a dump and send it to IBM. Along with ``the associated listing'', of course. (Everything required that associated listing. :-) ) It was from a FORTRAN manual if memory serves.

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    2. Re:Backup dump humor (warning: juvenile) by miyax · · Score: 1

      Hehe. My CompSci teacher was going over this one [stupid] AP C++ class known as the "apstack". All I remember is the following:

      "When you need to, you can use functions in the class to pop your stack, reload your stack, push things onto your stack, empty your stack..."

      Then he wondered why we were all snickering, and called us "perverse".

      I have yet to use this class for this exact reason. ^_^

  125. Ok, what about the silica packets enclosed? by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

    Hope they mention "DO NOT EAT" in regards to the silica packets ;)

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    1. Re:Ok, what about the silica packets enclosed? by kerincosford · · Score: 1

      Which brings us neatly to....

      toothpaste for dinner

    2. Re:Ok, what about the silica packets enclosed? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2

      "Hope they mention "DO NOT EAT" in regards to the silica packets ;)"

      Don't do that in the Italian version.

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    3. Re:Ok, what about the silica packets enclosed? by ShavenYak · · Score: 2

      Oh, darn, I've already posted my commentary on silica gel instructions.

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  126. Qualcomm Phones by Colol · · Score: 2

    Qualcomm's phone manuals never took themselves too seriously. They presented the material you needed, but threw in humor the whole way. It got the point across quickly without being so dry.

    Hard telling if they're still amusing or not after the Kyocera purchase...

  127. Re:What? And get sued? by MaxVlast · · Score: 2

    As I think I said above, the best humor in documentation wouldn't be noticed by the person who would take seriously your suggestion. Instead, the real humor would convey the actual instructions in a funny, subtle manner.

    Judging by what I've seen around here, it probably wouldn't be noticed by the majority of readers. That's not a troll; it's an observation.

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  128. What Manuals? by PhunkyOne · · Score: 1
    Seriously though...

    What programs (at least programs where the users might be more apt to need a manual - read not brilliant computer users) even have manuals anymore? Most of the time you get a CD, a couple of ads, and a silly registration card. Most novice users have no idea that hitting F1 (in most Windows apps) even brings up a help menu.

    It's kind of funny most older computer users that I know and help out once in a while in my personal time are just perplexed when you tell them that Microsoft Word or whatever doesn't have a manual. Explaning that F1 is where to go for help doesn't really help because they don't know what to ask or search for. Most of them just want a sterile user's manual not even those How To Pick Your Nose for Dummies books. I just wish a lot of those extremely mainstream consumer applications would have a decent manual. Some do and that's a start. Most people just want a book to either read cover to cover or something that has a great index so they can easily help themselves. A great index to the book is something that is most important to me esp. with technical literature.

  129. Lazy manufacturers? by Feren · · Score: 1
    [Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?]

    Why is it the manufacturer's responsibility to make the users read the manual? I'm not sure how their lack of catering to the lowest common denominator makes the manufacturer lazy or at fault. I'd say, in fact, that the statement above indicates that it is in fact the user who is lazy.

    It's not a matter of making manuals that are more "entertaining," they're manuals for crying out loud. It's a matter of training the users to recognize they'll save time, aggravation and perhaps even money if they would just spare the ten, twenty or fifty minutes to read the manual so they know what they're doing.

    A wise old BOFH once said, "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." Likewise, the burden should not fall to the manufacturer to make the user read the book. If the choose not to, on their head be it....

  130. everybody should read rtfm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, with the windows world, i also had forgotten about reading the manual.. It wasn't needed, and i thought i was a "super-knowing-user" because i was able to check some 31337 function somewhere etc

    then i tried linux, which forced me to read a lot to know about all the options, and that reading conducted me to read more and more, now, i even read slashdot comments!!!;) That reading also gave me a lot of good things.. Knowledge!

    That's why i always read the manual, even if i do it very fast... They sometimes explain some exceptionnal conditions that may appear (installing some HP scanner-card when you have a network card requires you to uninstall the network card before to isntall the hpcard etc.. Very vicious :) )

    Or you also can learn about some functionnalities you ignored

    Nah, RTFM, go for it, it can only make you smarter, or loose 10 minutes of your time

    RTFM doesn't need to be funny
    but funny things gives you the good mood ;)

  131. Dangerous by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1

    First I have to endure misfunctional software, then I have to endure attempts at wit? Humor derives from ambiguity, which the angry reader is not going to like. Would computer manual humor be any better than this?

  132. Re:Corel: Better manual then product by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

    One more reason as to why I use Photoshop. . . . (Ok granted not an option if you are on an alternative OS but. . . .)

    Actualy it is THE reason that I use Photoshop;

    Kick ass interface. :)

    Though some dildohead seems to have let somebody from the Illustrator Dev Team onto the Photoshop Dev Team and the results are showing up and more with each successive version. . . . ugh.

    Illustartor is another one of those "So bad its painful" programs, even WITH the manual there to help you, it is a PAIN in the ass to use because NOTHING is obvious, crud like the two different arrow pointers, or stuff NEVER selecting how it should, ugh. All by design too. . . .

    :(

    Photoshop 6 (I have yet to try 7, looks like crap from all the Adobe.com screenshots of it, yeesh, interface looks WAAAY to jazzed up) is actualy BETTER at doing vector modeling then Illustrator is.

    I spent over TWO HOURS just _TRYING_ to do something in Illustrator (rather simple something too, VERY simple in fact) and then proceeded to give up and spend about, oh, all of TEN MINUTES doing it in Photoshop 6. . . .

    Ick.

  133. Re:What? And get sued? by PunkXRock · · Score: 1

    While you may be right that humor (Get your extraneous 'u' out of here, ya Brit) could cause problems, your logic is flawed.

    How I read your logic:
    A document is unprofessional, therefore, it is open to lawsuits.

    This doesn't make a bit of sense. ANY document could cause a lawsuit. The point is simply, a document with humor may cause problems due to misinterpretation, and it is therefore less likely to be seen in the US. The level of professionalism associated with the writing is irrelevant.

    -Paul

  134. Brave New World... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Is this just too much work for our lazy American manufacturers to do?'

    Are people too lazy to read and learn and work hard without being amused? Would you prefer soma and a connect-the-dots instruction manual?

  135. As a technical writer myself... by Bogatyr · · Score: 2

    I read manuals out of professional courtesy. No one else will.n

  136. Fortune has a good oldie. by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

    [From the operation manual for the CI-300 Dot Matrix Line Printer, made
    in Japan]:

    The excellent output machine of MODEL CI-300 as extraordinary DOT
    MATRIX LINE PRINTER, built in two MICRO-PROCESSORs as well as EAROM, is
    featured by permitting wonderful co-existence such as; "high quality
    against low cost", "diversified functions with compact design",
    "flexibility in accessibleness and durability of approx. 2000,000,00
    Dot/Head", "being sophisticated in mechanism but possibly agile
    operating under noises being extremely suppressed" etc.

    And as a matter of course, the final goal is just simply to help
    achieve "super shuttle diplomacy" between cool data, perhaps earned by
    HOST COMPUTER, and warm heart of human being.

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  137. Elektron's Manual for the SidStation by asterias · · Score: 1

    The manual for the sidstation is one of the few that I've read that was informative, easy to read, and amusing. They talk about keeping the sidchip away from explosions, heat, etc. If you havn't checked it out, please do. One of the coolest synths on the market, if a little difficult to program. http://www.sidstation.com/ The machinedrum is pretty groovy too, also by elektron.

  138. List of words to avoid by andkaha · · Score: 2

    Does anyone have a list of words to avoid?

    In 1994 I had a list of quite a number of words and short phrases like "WAN WAN", "kuk", "ann" etc., but I can't find it anymore on my systems, and web searches won't help. The list I had was fetched off the internet somewhere and was written backwards and ROT13'ed.

    It would be good to have when starting up my next company or when I come to name my kids, just to avoid blunders. I suppose it would be good as a source for inspiration when choosing new passwords as well.

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  139. Re:O' Reilly Perl stuff by layingMantis · · Score: 2, Informative


    The Camel book does have humor, but it isn't as funny, or as engagingly written, as the "Llama", Learning Perl. That is one of the best written technical books I've ever read. (Compare this to the ultra-dry and boring Running Linux, also by O'Reilly)

    Larry Wall isn't a gifted writer, and isn't a gifted teacher for that matter - Programming Perl can be too terse and obtuse at times. It is a still a good book worth the money, though.

    And while we are talking Perl and O'Reilly -- stay far away from Perl In A Nutshell, first edition - it is not concise, contains no examples, and is written in a flat and boring style. The 2nd edition, coming out right now, might be better, but I'll only believe that when I see it.

    ~mantis

  140. Straight from an SDK Manual written in Italian by Like2Byte · · Score: 1

    While I was working on a certain touch pad using a stylus, the SDK provided, of course, the available functions.

    One of the functions was aptly named:

    BOOL PenIsTouching(); Look closely.

  141. Mackie knows this trick... by da3dAlus · · Score: 2

    I've had the pleasure of working with (and purchasing) several Mackie mixers over the years. I have yet to be let down by the scattered bits of humor that the writers leave in the books. Granted, there's usually a need read up on new features, but most of the time it's worth reading the whole manual to get some of the jokes. I've also read some Crown Broadcast manuals for some of their high-end amplifiers, and saw a few interesting bits as well.

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  142. Re:Prime manual found! by Black+Art · · Score: 2

    The manual was called "The New User's Guide To Editor and Runoff" published by PR1ME Computers. This is the second edition from 1980. The first edition was published in 1978.

    The manual includes color cartoons, quotes from sources like Edgar Alan Poe, Douglas Adams and Gilbert and Sulivan, as well as many in-jokes and literary references.

    In the section on doing mail merge letters...

    "It is our pleasure to inform you, Arthur Trent
    that you are a FINAL CONTESTANT in the RANIBURGER BAKE-OFF!

    Raniburger is prepared to fly you, at your expense,
    to our BIG BAKE-OFF, which will be broadcast live from
    the Hotel Cthulhu in downtown Arkham.
    Winners will be selected by our panel of distinguished judges, which includes Drs. Ann E. Lidda and Chuck Render of the Serpentine Health Spas, and Grima Viper of Saruman Bakeries. Prizes include a two-week vacation for two at Loch Ness, plus a year's supply of Raniburgers.

    So, congradulations, Arthur Trent, and we hope to see you soon!

    Sincerely,

    The Raniburger Corporation

    "I never ate a frog I did not like"

    666 Ourboros Drive, Arkham, MA 02546

    There are a couple other silly examples, including a sales brochure from "The Magrathean Manufacturing Corporation.".

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  143. MS manual entry by sean23007 · · Score: 1
    Perhaps Microsoft should put something like this into their manual:
    When shutting down your Windows computer it is imperative that you do so by clicking on the Start bar and selecting Shut Down. If the computer is shut down by merely hitting the off switch or otherwise cutting power to the machine, Windows may become unstable. If you, or anyone you know, has ever, will ever, or will ever even think about shutting the Windows machine down incorrectly, Microsoft and all subsidiaries cannot be held accountable for any instabilities you may encounter when using your Windows machine. Remember that the preferred way to shut down a Macintosh computer is by unplugging it from the wall outlet, and the preferred way to shut down a computer running any blasphemous Open Source OS, such as Linux, is to open the case and remove the hard drive from the machine. If the machine does not shut down, and due to the poor quality of the Linux OS, it may not, the Central Processing Unit should next be removed. If Linux still refuses to release its hold on your machine, unplug power cable connecting the power supply to the motherboard. If the hassle of shutting down your Linux machine gets to be too much, and it darn well should, see Chapter 2: Windows Installation.

    Can anyone else see the beast pulling something like this?
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  144. Softcore Porn by Caez · · Score: 0

    Just do like the guy with the case mod. Forget pictures of the products, put pictures of chicks in thongs in the manuals.

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  145. Image manuals made by Japanese by jsse · · Score: 2

    would have cover like that

    WOooO I wanna read it! :)

  146. Suppressed worst foreignism ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I will not name the country. And I will not name myself. I will not identify the location, company, etc., because those people are warlike, prone to violence and easily offended, besides I liked them and did not want to cause their heads to literally roll in their headquarters bakc home.

    but, they dn't know English that well. They came up with a product and proudly presented the name,

    ........... ProbaScope

    Every English speaker first went open-mouthed with horror and then burst out into laughter, trying to suppress it in front of these dignified foreign gentlemen.

    Now you can't even find it in google. data suppression real good there. I guess they want it totaly forgotten. Sorry too good a story not to tell.

  147. Linux funnies by Sabalon · · Score: 2

    On a linux box:
    man strfry (prnounced stirfry)
    man memfrob

    find /usr/src/linux -type f -exec grep -A 1 -B 1 fuck {} \;

    /* Only Sun can take such nice parts and fuck up the programming interface
    * like this. Good job guys...

    * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-)

    * irixioctl.c: A fucking mess...

    /* Binary compatibility is good American knowhow fuckin' up. */

    /* Why the fuck did they have to change this? */

    If you don't see why, please stay the fuck away from my code.

    /* These are here for sake of fucking lusercode living in the fucking believe
    having to fuck around with the syscall interface themselfes. */

    /* 2,191 lines of complete and utter shit coming up... */

    /* Sun, you just can't beat me, you just can't. Stop trying,
    * give up. I'm serious, I am going to kick the living shit
    * out of you, game over, lights out.

  148. Retrospect Backup manual humor by SamTheButcher · · Score: 1
    ©vw?I ever saw of "manual" humor was in the User's Guide for Retrospect backup software. In the index under "H" would be an entry for "haiku", and on the page listed would be a short haiku, mostly about the code name for the product. For instance, for the manual for the first Windows version (code named Gama), there is a screenshot of the files to be backed up, and their filenames are the haiku. It says:

    Explorer Gama
    Sails to the Indian Shore
    Trade Expands Markets

    They would do other things too, like name hard drives after the brothers Karamazov, naming folders "Applications", "carbon dioxide", "CS", "Delivery Systems", "incendiaries", "methylene chloride", "Negotiations" and "propellants". There are other examples, but you get the idea. If you have a manual for Retro, just browse through the screenshots, you're bound to find something mildly amusing.

  149. Spicing up documentation by rcw-home · · Score: 2
    some countries, including Japan, try to spice up their product manuals in order to entice the users to read them.

    Proof that this works:

    <Overfiend> hey, check out http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html for a content-free beginning.
    <Overfiend> what, nobody likes my template?
    <dark> Overfiend: I'm looking at it with lynx :)
    <Overfiend> dark: well, look at it with GRAPHICAL browser!
    * Overfiend grins
    <dark> Overfiend: Well I didn't know yet if it would be worth the 20-second startup time :)
    <dark> Overfiend: If there aren't any naked girls on it then I'm not bothering!
    <Overfiend> dark: probably not. But do it anyway :)
    <Overfiend> dark: I could change that, but it might not be a popular decision :)
    <Overfiend> Not with the market-conscious developers, anyway :)
    <dark> Overfiend: Then they're not very market-conscious :-)
    <dark> Ah, I have a window!
    <Overfiend> dark: all right, smartass, reload the page. Like that better? :) :) :)
    <dark> Whee 115 bytes per second.
    <Overfiend> be grateful the jpg's are only about 30k apiece
    <Overfiend> and the .png's are tiny.
    * Overfiend is wondering if anyone ELSE is loading/reloading that page :)
    <dark> They'd better not be, there are laws in this country you know.
    * netgod falls over laughing
    <Overfiend> netgod: like it? 8-D
    * dark wonders if this girl can walk.

  150. What "RTFM" really stands for by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 2

    Responses
    That
    Further
    Microsoft

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  151. Actually about the Italians..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bit about Italians said to never, ever come right out and say that they are "NOT to do something under any circumstance." Seems that if you do do that they have a tendancy to do the thing you said not to do.

    So, for all you Italian Linux users out there:

    DO NOT EVER enter the command "rm -rf /" at the Linux command line prompt.

  152. you know... by AA0 · · Score: 1

    Its not so much that American companies are too lazy to redo their manuals, its that Americans are just too lazy in general to read them, no matter how spiced up they are.

    If ignorance is bliss, the US is the happiest place in the world!

  153. open source companies rely on bad manuals by Michael+Wardle · · Score: 2

    This is a counter-incentive for developers of open source software attempting to sell support.

    If your product is so simple to use or your documentation explains things clearly, there is less requirement for paid technical support, and so no revenue for many open source projects.

  154. Mackie by captaineo · · Score: 2

    Mackie (the audio equipment maker) does a really stellar job of writing interesting, funny manuals. I picked up my mixer manual to find out how the tape outs operated, and ended up spending an hour reading the whole thing...

  155. Poor Americans by r_j_prahad · · Score: 2

    I have quite a few Japanese kitchen utensils and many food packages that I purchased solely for the translated instructions. My favorite is my Benriner mandolin... I had no idea my food was so honourable and full of personality until I bought it. There are thirty-seven pages of illustrated instructions squeezed into a single 8.5x11 sheet of paper, along with many wonderful illustrations. I have some oriental noodles I have yet to cook because to eat them would destroy the packaging and the incredibly delightful instructions for "taking them up".

  156. Book In-Jokes. by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

    I stumbled across this webpage a while back. It has a listing of book "in-jokes" - jokes designed to be caught by the people that read the book all the way through.

    For example: In the Thomas and Finny CALCULUS book (we've all seen this one - big, blue, dangerous), it says: The index includes an entry for whales, pointing to pages 365 ff. These pages include no mention of whales (they deal with applications of integrals); but there are several graphs there that look remarkably like whales.

    The Java Specification book includes index entires on page 788:
    Fibonacci numbers, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34,55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610
    self-referential: index entries, 788
    not, see Russell's paradox

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    1. Re:Book In-Jokes. by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

      Also: In my Learning Perl book by Larry Wall, the introduction starts out:

      WHAT IS THIS BOOK ABOUT?
      Among other things, this book is about 260 pages. [...]

      ~Will

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  157. Cultural Differences by Nishi-no-wan · · Score: 1

    You must keep in mind another aspect in making manuals more entertaining. Riding the train to and from work daily, I see many people reading software manuals. Yes, manuals. Not "Dummy Guides" or "How Tos," but the actual manuals that come with software.

    It'd be kind of hard to do that in a society that commutes by car. So manuals in such societies aren't geared toward "off hours" reading.

  158. matrix algebra and sheep by StandardDeviant · · Score: 2

    Showing the various types of linear transformations (reflection, rotation, etc) the authors of the applied linear algebra text I used in college used a sheep figure as the manipulated object... This goes on for a bit, and then you turn the page to the last type of transformation of their discussion... the shear transform. Naturally, the caption reads "Sheared Sheep"... (an example of a shear transform is what would make text looking like "this" originally, look instead like "this".)

  159. And if you tried to write a Japanese manual... by ashitaka · · Score: 2

    How well do you think you could do?

    No doubt there would be much snickering and mentions of "Henna Nihongo!!"

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    1. Re:And if you tried to write a Japanese manual... by RFC959 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but the point is "I wouldn't!" I don't know, maybe the Japanese-language manuals for US products are just as funny - but there seems to be something about English that convinces every manufacturer that, sure, he can write it himself, no professional translator needed. Maybe it's because English is so widespread - almost everybody thinks he can speak some English - whereas an American knows he can't speak Japanese or Italian.

  160. Iambic Pentameter by Royster · · Score: 2

    Directions should be read before;
    I swear it takes too long.
    So, I read them afterwards instead
    To see where I went wrong.

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  161. Who can forget by Linknoid · · Score: 1
    Who can forget Beagle Bros., probably one of the most famous humorous manuals of all time (ok, at least among those of us who grew up using Apple IIs). Here are a few samples, I wish I had one of their product catalogs in digital format (they're all packed away), but they were hilarious, stuff like:

    In order to recieve $1000000, please follow the following instructions:
    (Continued on page 53)

    And when you start turning, you realize there were only 48 pages in the manual. It was full of stuff like that.

  162. SimEarth by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember the SimEarth manual? If I were at home, I'd dig it out. But I remember the series went something like... Blank Page Another Blank Page Yet Another Blank Page This Page Intentionally Left Blank Unblank Page - with a bunch of jokes and junk ("Where in SimEarth is Carmen SimDiego?")

    1. Re:SimEarth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the old Maxis manuals had funny shit like that in them.

      SimLife, for example, had a running comic strip about a genetically engineered family. "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if the dog had wings? And breathed FIRE?"

      El-Fish had a great list of things to do while El-Fish was animating fish (a process that could take hours on a 386 of the day.)

      When people ask me when Maxis lost its touch, I always say, "The day their manuals went from 200 pages of information and jokes down to 20 pages of minimalistic troubleshooting tips. Or, failing that, SimTower."

  163. I usually laugh when reading manuals from Asia... by kyletinsley · · Score: 1

    I usually laugh when reading manuals produced by Asian companies... Although it's more of a sad, desparation kind of laugh, as in "I can't believe this page of words in a language resembling English is my only source of help about this product. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!" Then squash beer can on forehead and move on to the Guess & check method.

    (Hey it hurts more than you think... cause I don't drink beer. The full cans make it a more meaningful experience...)

  164. Not lazy, just scared by richie2000 · · Score: 2

    When I worked for TenFour (makers of TFS Gateway), I tried to insert a fair amount of levity in the manuals and user guides to make people remember the good advice (please enter your TFS post office in the cc:Mail settings or your e-mail will not be delivered, even if you put 40,000 volts through it) and entice them to read more of it. When the president of our US subsidiary happened to see this he went ballistic. I got a really serious talking-to from our Swedish prez and their argument was that is was 'not serious'. That I could prove that support incidents among new installs was way down since I introduced my little lame jokes didn't matter...

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    Money for nothing, pix for free
  165. Learning Perl is a lot of fun by frankie_guasch · · Score: 1

    Here is a sample chapter from Learning Perl

  166. Always assuming the manual is accurate by qbed · · Score: 1


    I have a non-computer literate housemate who uses a piece of antivirus software to protect her computer


    Now when there was a problem with a virus on the computer in question, which the software was aware of but did nothing about, she went straight to the manual.


    didn't help, she got me to have a look. This didn't help either as the manual (understandable despite being written poorly) described what action the program would take, and what choices would then be available. But actually did not do as claimed.


    Obvious case of Tech Support required... First Comment from them was of course RTFM... understandable... however after being told about the state of said computer and lack of response, simply said "no its not". Not helpful...


    So the question here is, what on earth do you do when the manual is wrong (since as may seem obvious its also wrong for tech support at the other end)??

    --
    imagination is more important than knowledge --Albert Einstein-
  167. old, old, old... by corian · · Score: 1

    Didn't any of you lot play infocom games? Making the manual interesting to read, useful during gameplay, and fun enough that you'd enjoy them independent of playing the game, was part of the enjoyment!

    Even the same game walkthroughs were funny and unique.

  168. Datatrieve & Wombats by Slashamatic · · Score: 2
    Digital (now subsumed into Compaq/HP) had a 4-GL called Datatrieve. It featured a help file which featured HELP WOMBATS and HELP WOMBATS ADVANCED. I have no idea why this found its way there, but together with the example database for a yacht charter agency, gave rise to a series of cartoons which appeared in the later introductory manual featuring yachtsmen and wombats as margin illustrations. The user group published a document called "The Wombat Examiner".

    Regrettably, the latest version of Datrieve does not feature WOMBATS as a sense of humor is no longer permitted.

  169. Re:Mackie manuals - not just the manual by SNACKeR · · Score: 1

    Check out how they rename Solo to Rude Solo on their mixers, for its annoyance quotient. (For the non-audio types, that is what you need from a solo inidicator).

    The manual that came with my mixer is the best I have read, funny great layout, comprehensive, yet exellent Quick Start sections.

  170. What about those 'Rossetta Stone' instructions by DABANSHEE · · Score: 2

    Where you you have a 25 page print out with just 4 pages of intructions that one can actually read

  171. You're wrong, you're probally a programmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The look and feel of software shouldn't be intuitive, easy and simple ALL the time.

    It depends on the user characteristics (Age, educational level, ...), the environment, the task importance, the frequency of use, etc...

    Programmers can't design user-friendly software (that's why they are so good in programming). They are missing some essential brain parts, which are responsible for the action "communication". A user-interface is all about communication.

  172. oh great by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    It has recently come to our attention that you have been reported by an unidentified source to have been using a joke with the beginning, "Why did the chicken cross the road?".

    We are obliged to point out to you that you are in violation under the terms of the DMCA. This text was originally printed in the technical manual for MS Windows 1.0 Executive in 1988. The use of this joke and all derivatives are therefore illegal.

    A team of forensic specialists will be arriving at your location shortly with warrants allowing them to interview you and your coworkers, as well as all your relatives. They will determine the extent of your knowledge of this joke and how much you have disseminated it to the community at large. The potential fine is up to 3 years in prison and $20,000 per violation.

    Have a Nice Day.

    -The BSA

    PS: Don't try to figure out the joke, or try to concoct your own version. That's illegal too.

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    -Styopa
  173. Hewlett-Packard by Detritus · · Score: 2
    Hewlett-Packard used to have wonderful manuals for their programmable calculators. The quality of the writing declined a bit over the years. It really went bad when they closed down the Corvallis calculator operation. The manual for the HP-49G is terrible.

    These days, I'm surprised if I get a decent manual with a software package or a piece of hardware. The usual excuse is that they are "saving the environment". Fuck the environment! The reality is that some bone-headed manager is too cheap to spend the money on good documentation. I spent $500 on Microsoft Office for Mac OS X and all they gave me was a pamphlet on how to install the software. Bastards.

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    Mea navis aericumbens anguillis abundat
  174. The Duck Method by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to put a big picture of a duck on page 66 of our manual. That way when a customer calls and asks a dumb question I can say did you read the mannual? When they say yes I can ask "What page is the duck on?" When they ask me what duck I know that they never read the mannual.

  175. Holy grail: products so easy to use, no manual by HWheel · · Score: 1

    Why we need user guides:

    I'm a technical writer who spends a lot of time creating specs for software applications and, while I'd like to make the application so easy to use that I don't need to write instructions, it's just impossible. And the trade-off between easy-to-use and powerful applications means that there's always some function that you have to know how to use to get the full power from the application.

  176. RTFM? No, I have Clippy to Help Me. by SloppyElvis · · Score: 2

    Duh, people, manuals are so 1980s. Everybody knows that the creation of Clippy made all documentation obsolete!

  177. NanoSecond Powerball by NoseyNick · · Score: 1

    I'd highly reccommend buying one of these - it's a great geek toy anyway, but the manual's also amusing:

    Power Ball - you give me one minute, and I will give you a powerful hand.

    Thank you for your kind patronage

    The NanoSecond Power Ball is a kind of ball with very high rotation speeds for training the wrist strength, meant to satisfy a sense of achievement in sports.

    The NanoSecond Power Ball is a new model, space-saving sports tool, which can run over 12,000 revolutions per minute (R.P.M.) as long as it is manipulated to the point. It is a highly creative and newfangled drilling tool. Try Power Ball, and you'll be amazed with its miraculous power for sure.

    If you're confused, the box might help explain:

    Manual mode. Transmit the rotor with your palm in a downgoing twisting application of force. For transmission. Once the ball is set into transmission, spin the ball with upgraded accelleration in a forward direction of the wrist. Try repeatedly, and you will soon learn the knack, and the pleasure will be beyond description.

    Fantastic!

    --
    Nick Waterman, Sr Tech Director, #include <stddisclaimer>
  178. Manuals... by Keith_Beef · · Score: 1

    Two little anecdotes.

    I'm not sure where I heard this first one; it concerns page breaks and wording, in a manual for some piece of agricultural machinery.

    Open hatch [A] on the top of the machine, and reach inside to grasp drum [C]
    <page break>
    after having switched off the machine and having let it come to a complete halt.

    You can imagine somebody starting to open tha hatch with the machine running...

    My wife has a JVC stereo (from before I met her). The manual is in about a dozen languages (hey, I live in Europe); I read the French part. In the section on cleaning the external casing, there is the hilarious:

    ne pas utiliser un amincissant
    Which translates as "do not use a slimmming aid". I am willing to bet a thousand thalers that this is a translation of the English phrase "do not use thinners".
  179. Who needs manuals when you have O'Reilly by Iber · · Score: 1

    That's part of what makes O'Reilly books so cool, all those notes about practical stuff surounding the book's actual theme. I particularly like the intro to "Learning Perl" (long time ago ;-)) or some of the stuff between pages in Essential System Administation.

  180. Old Haventree Humor by kaladorn · · Score: 2

    I recall a (Kingston Ont? based??) company called Haventree who made a flow charting utility called EasyFlow. I recall the manual featured the usual antipiracy copyright spiel, but livened up by threats to send "the Haventree Attack Shark" after you if you violated the terms. Far more entertaining (and probably not too far from a good description of lawyers) than most.

    Something like some Dilbert, BOFH, or similar cartoons sprinkled around the manual, or having Dave Barry translate some of the sections would make most manuals far more interesting to read.

    Mind you, explaining switches for commands can be about as interesting as pulling your own toenails out with pliers slowly... I really don't see how anyone could remedy that... but broader descriptive texts could easily be spiced up.

    Of course, for every one of us that would enjoy some visual cartoon embedding, or little word plays or humorous asides in the text, someone else would complain about buying a manual and getting all this "extra crap" and then some other gene pool shallow-ender would sue... "I followed the instruction that said to reboot the computer using a size 12 hiking boot, your honour. Clearly the company provided a destructive procedure!"...

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    -- Mal: "Well they tell you: never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious."
    1. Re:Old Haventree Humor by Eil · · Score: 2

      Speaking of Dave... (this ripped directly from the Window Maker README):

      "Congratulations! You have purchased an extremely fine device that would give you thousands of years of trouble-free service, except that you undoubtably will destroy it via some typical bonehead consumer maneuver. Which is why we ask you to please for God's sake read this owner's manual carefully before you unpack the device. You already unpacked it, didn't you? You unpacked it and plugged it in and turned it on and fiddled with the knobs, and now your child, the same child who once shoved a polish sausage into your videocassette recorder and set it on "fast forward", this child also is fiddling with the knobs, right??? We might as well just break these devices right at the factory before we ship them out, you know that?"
      -- Dave Barry, "Read This First!"

      (Had to retype most of this in lower case to get it to post. Anyone ever wonder if the lameness filter would filter itself?)

  181. I love this .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Touching Italians is fine, but you must never, ever tell them how to use a product. You merely suggest what they might consider doing with it, according to Carmella Esposito, a former United Nations translator who now works as a freelance technical support consultant.

    "We have noticed that if a manual said, 'Do not ever do this,' we would then get many calls from people who had broken their machines by doing just that," Esposito said. "They read the documentation and took offense to its tone so they had an argument with the product."


    Oh man I want to sell a product in italy. that the manual states "DONT SMASH THIS WITH A HAMMER!"

    are the people in italy really that stupid or over-emotional to intentionally do something that is warned against? how about "DONT USE THIS PRODUCT IN THE BATHTUB" that surely would clear out some of the more braindead people... How can I cause this response in america?

  182. Re:I usually laugh when reading manuals from Asia. by curri · · Score: 1

    You know what's funny ? American companies do the same for other languages :)

    I'm a native spanish speaker, living in the US for the last 6 years (so I speak decent english). Some manuals come in several languages, and I usually read the english instructions because the spanish translations is so bad :) (sometimes I read the spanish section to get a few good laughs :)

  183. Not just manuals... RFCs by ColdForged · · Score: 1
    Think of RFCs and you generally think of stodgy prose, about as scintillating as professional wall painting competitions ("Oh he really put out for those last square feet, Al!"). But some of them can be quite fun. My favorites come from RFC 2410, The NULL Encryption Algorithm and Its Use With IPsec. For those not familiar, the NULL algorithm is essentially a do-nothing algorithm: what goes in comes out. It's a way to specify, for instance, authentication only for an IPsec policy. Some excerpts:

    2.1 Keying Material
    Like other modern ciphers, e.g., RC5 [RFC-2040], the NULL encryption algorithm can make use of keys of varying lengths. However, no measurable increase in security is afforded by the use of longer key lengths.

    2.4 Performance
    The NULL encryption algorithm is significantly faster than other commonly used symmetric encryption algorithms and implementations of the base algorithm are available for all commonly used hardware and OS platforms.

    2.5 Test Vectors
    The following is a set of test vectors to facilitate in the development of interoperable NULL implementations.

    test_case = 1
    data = 0x123456789abcdef
    data_len = 8
    NULL_data = 0x123456789abcdef

    test_case = 2
    data = "Network Security People Have A Strange Sense Of Humor"
    data_len = 53
    NULL_data = "Network Security People Have A Strange Sense Of Humor"

    And finally:

    At the time of this writing there are no known laws preventing the exportation of NULL with a zero (0) bit key length.
    We should warn the Bush administration of the dangers of allowing exports of this powerful algorithm!
    --

    -"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle." - Arthur Dent

  184. RTFM by dopeghost · · Score: 1


    ...after this article...any bets on which company is first to trademark the term : Read The Funky Manual?

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  185. short but cute by ChoyLeeFut · · Score: 1
    Back around 1994 I was installing an IP-based printserver dongle on the network. The example they had in their installation booklet for testing network connectivity was based on a fictitious node name of 'elvis', thusly:

    # ping elvis
    elvis is alive

    :-)

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    The postman hits! The postman hits! You have mail.

  186. Americans? by LamerX · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or do most of the computer products I buy not come from the US, but from mostly Asian countries?

  187. Re:We have those here, just not included in the bo by Eil · · Score: 2


    Eh, the For Dummies series was a really great idea (and still is). But now the sitation is the same as that for the O'Reilly tech books: watch whichs ones you buy. They're not all good. Some plain suck. A few of the recent ones I've skimmed through were absolute shit. I remember reading a few of the very first For Dummies books: DOS for Dummies and HTML for Dummies. (The former was for the humour, the latter for actual information. This was a long time ago, though...)

    Those two were actually quite good. But then the For Dummies publisher went ahead and starting hiring authors to write on every topic under the sun from piano playing to gardening to finances to beer. A year or two ago I saw a newer For Dummies book on Perl and skimmed through it at the bookstore. Wow did that suck. Not only was there absolutely no humour in it but the author apparently had no actual experience of the language. Programming Perl beat it by leaps and bounds, even for people who aren't into programming.

  188. Klingon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In one product manual I wrote, in the disclaimer, I prefaced an admonition with the Klingon word for (approximately) "To avoid having your skin flayed from your still-living body,"... When my manager called me on it, I said it must be datafile corruption.

    My all-time favorite amusement, tho, must be the entry in "Common Lisp: The Language". The index lists "kluge", and references the entire document.

  189. Awesome manuals of yesterday by Aapje · · Score: 2

    The local library lends out software and sells the outdated stuff for cheap. I got some of it just for the manual:

    - A reproduction of a WWI flight manual, including ads!
    - An excellent flight manual with Falcon 3. The CD wasn't included, but who cares? ;)
    - Full-sized copy of the Magic The Gathering Manual. Sure beats that fontsize 6 thingy you get with a pack o' cards.
    - Maps of Korea, France, etc.

    And I'll be there when they dump Falcon 4 and Railroad Tycoon II.

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    The Drowned and the Saved - Primo Levi
  190. off point BUT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sign over a urinal at a Japanese airport
    "Turn cock to right to stop drip"