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California Man Sues Penis-Enlargment Firms

Ronin writes "The DenverPost reports that 'A California man on Thursday sued a slew of international companies, including a Greeley distributor, alleging the penis-enlargement products they market and distribute do not work.' One of the highlights of the article is when the man says "I was wondering for a long time why no one has gotten around to suing these penis-enlargement guys, because it seems like a pretty blatant ... fraud." Probably cause people are too embarrased to say they've tried it."

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  1. Doesn't work by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These things prey on people's desperation and feelings of inadequacy. I mean really, even a tiny dude can score if his head game is good.

    1. Re:Doesn't work by jnp42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of a joke. Guy picks up a girl at a bar. They go back to his place and things are going well for the guy... until he drops his trousers and the woman points to his crotch and asks, "who the hell do you think you're going to please with that?"

      Guy responds, "Me."

    2. Re:Doesn't work by the_ed_dawg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that the most obvious reason to believe that they don't work is the fact that you don't see them in every store in the USA. Let's face it... if they worked, they'd probably be selling better than crack.

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    3. Re:Doesn't work by JPriest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is about time someone went after spammers for false advertisement. If the spammers want to claim that spam is a legit method of marketing than thay can be subject to the same rules and regulations as any other advratisement media.

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    4. Re:Doesn't work by prockcore · · Score: 5, Funny

      advratisement media.

      Somewhere, a spelling bee champion is weeping.

    5. Re:Doesn't work by mek2600 · · Score: 5, Funny

      5 inches is average size Average size, or average size for a Slashdotter?

    6. Re:Doesn't work by Endive4Ever · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's good to see examples of the fear of inadequacy right here in the discussion threads.

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    7. Re:Doesn't work by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Funny

      5 inches is actually an inch and a half shorter than what I was told the average was back in junior high. This came from suppposedly authoritive information during sex ed.

      I bet there's some fun conspiracy out there, some Illuminati-type group of small dicked educators who are trying to bolster their self image by reporting a lower average.

    8. Re:Doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There have been countless studies, and countless varying results. The general average is purported to be 6", and that depends upon accurate measurements (i.e. not from your rectum and up and over and back down again). Most studies are optional studies (i.e. they can't randomly stop guys on the street and measure their dicks), so naturally it's going to edge towards the upper end: Who's more likely to submit to a cock measurement -- A guy with a tiny dick, or a well endowed braggart?

    9. Re:Doesn't work by kalel666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Okay, you mentioned elephants, good enough for me.

      A man, his wife and son are at the zoo. The husband says "I need to go to the bathroom" and off he goes.

      The wife and son are sitting and waiting for him when an elephant goes by. The son says, "Mommy, what's that hanging down there from the elephant?"
      Embarassed, the mother says "the tail".
      No, not that, the other thing!
      That's his trunk, says Mom.
      No, no, the thing in the middle!
      Th-that's nothing, says Mom, horribly embarassed.
      Oh, okay says the boy.

      Dad comes back, and Mom goes off to the bathroom.
      The elephant comes walking back, and sonny boy says to Dad, what's that hanging down from the elephant?
      The tail, son.
      No, the other thing!
      That's his trunk.
      No, no, the thing in the middle!
      Oh!, says Dad, that's his penis.
      How come when I asked Mom what it was, she said it was nothing?
      Smiling smugly, the father says "Boy, I've spoiled that woman!"

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    10. Re:Doesn't work by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Very good point! (pun not intended)

      Also, I don't think I could submit myself to that kind of research too. I know I'm "average", but damn, I don't want people to walk down the street and say

      "Hey YO, Wazzzuppp!! I remember at the clinic where they massure yo cock-in-balls. Damn, I loved that......"

      Seriously, the whole ordeal sounds embarrassing.

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    11. Re:Doesn't work by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really, isn't that what all human progress is based on?

    12. Re:Doesn't work by MrCreosote · · Score: 2, Funny

      How do you make an elephant fly?

      start with a zipper about 4 feet long....

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    13. Re:Doesn't work by madmancarman · · Score: 2, Funny
      So is the president of the A/V Club, the fat German exchange student, and the kid with the faded Metallica t-shirt & really bad skin.

      Aren't these all the same person?

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    14. Re:Doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry I have to go AC on this one, but I plan to run for President some day.

      Here's the distribution of penis sizes.

      PENIS DIMENSIONS BY PERCENTILES FOR MEN 18 YEARS AND OLDER (millimeters)

      PERCENTILE, FLACCID, ERECT, CIRCUMFERENCE

      0, 25(1.0"), 68(2.7"), 60(2.4")
      10, 50(2.0"), 125(4.9"), 95(3.7")
      20, 60(2.4"), 140(5.5"), 110(4.3")
      30, 73(2.9"), 147(5.8"), 120(4.7")
      40, 80(3.1"), 152(6.0"), 125(4.9")
      50, 88(3.5"), 160(6.3"), 130(5.1")
      60, 95(3.7"), 170(6.7"), 134(5.3")
      70, 100(3.9"), 176(6.9"), 140(5.5")
      80, 110(4.3"), 185(7.3"), 150(5.9")
      90, 120(4.7"), 200(7.9"), 160(6.3")
      100, 157(6.2"), 260(10.2"), 205(8.1")

    15. Re:Doesn't work by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 2, Funny

      So true... If these things really worked, they would be like Viagra for the younger crowd. You'll see them being advertised during Super Bowls ;)

      Sivaram Velauthapillai

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    16. Re:Doesn't work by FireBook · · Score: 2, Funny

      shush, or the spammers will start sending spam offering operations to allow you to breathe through your ears ;o)

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  2. It's about time! by zeroprime · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps this will convince those spammers, that not everybody is stupid enough to buy their snake-oil. If they keep losing money from lawsuits, maybe they'll just crawl back in their holes and rot.

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    1. Re:It's about time! by agentZ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sadly, no. The spammers will just send you offers from fake law firms encouraging you to sue people selling you penis enlargement creams.

      There IS a sucker born every minute.

    2. Re:It's about time! by cscx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Snake oil? Where do I sign up?!

    3. Re:It's about time! by ScottGant · · Score: 5, Funny

      Back in my day when you had a small penis, you bought a Corvette, or collected big rifles and pistols...these kids now adays just want to get by with the quick-and-easy solution.

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    4. Re:It's about time! by PacoTaco · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you go with the Corvette or the guns?

    5. Re:It's about time! by unitron · · Score: 2, Funny

      If there really were a sucker born every minute there would be enough around that size wouldn't matter.

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    6. Re:It's about time! by agentZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      everybody knows lawyers sue on a contingency basis when the potential award is large enough

      In the same way that everybody knows that there is no banker in Africa who randomly picked them out of a hat to receive $20 million from a deceased person they never heard of.

      There is a reason why the 419 scam works.

    7. Re:It's about time! by dandelion_wine · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man, when's the last time anyone got successfully sued for false advertising? I thought we gave that up in the '80's. We're knee deep in evasive logic, now. 4 out of 5 dentists recommend it -- and here they are: Fred, John, Billy, and Tim -- Bob, why do you have to be such a pain?

    8. Re:It's about time! by Endive4Ever · · Score: 4, Funny

      These days you overclock or get into case modding.

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    9. Re:It's about time! by Jonboy+X · · Score: 2, Funny

      At a place I used to work, we had saying about guys who drove huge trucks:

      "inversely proportional"

      And yes, even though it almost goes without saying here on slashdot, I did work among geeks..

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  3. A new front against Spam by W32.Klez.A · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps one of the reasons is because many times it's hard to track down the guys actually this shit? If most of the time people can't even catch the spammers themselves, how can a simple guy who wants to make his penis grow find someone who's probably went to great lengths to mask their identity?

    As silly as it sounds, if some people who've been duped could get a class action lawsuit going, they could simultaneously go after spammers.

    1. Re:A new front against Spam by Uber+Banker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It may be hard to track down the spammers advertising it (and prove a link between them and the retailer) but it is hell-of-easy tracking down the retailer when they accept payments on Visa/Mastercard.

    2. Re:A new front against Spam by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 2, Funny

      If he's selling the stuff, he obviously hasn't gone to great lengths (heh heh) to mask his identity. =)

  4. Whoa... by Cytlid · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...at first I read that as "Denver Man Sues Penis-Enlargement Farms".

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    1. Re:Whoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, that's another cock and bull story altogether.

    2. Re:Whoa... by Lane.exe · · Score: 4, Funny
      Penis farmer: "Looks like a really big crop this year, ma. Those African ones we planted are sure a mite bigger than the European variety..."

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    3. Re:Whoa... by Snad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those African ones we planted are sure a mite bigger than the European variety...

      The common belief that the African penis is bigger is merely a phallusy.

      Ahem, I'm here all week. Try the veal...

  5. Duh by aynrandfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    A California man on Thursday sued a slew of international companies, including a Greeley distributor, alleging the penis-enlargement products they market and distribute do not work.

    And the judge replied: "Duh, fucknut. Get out of my courtroom."

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  6. Technicality by rmarll · · Score: 5, Funny

    If your penis doesn't enlarge when you rub cream on it, maybe you're buying the wrong product.

    1. Re:Technicality by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Funny

      Reminds me of the "Bob and Ron" radio show where they did they "Penisin" commercial parody (kind of like Tinactin or other itch-remedy product).

      Start by using a liberal handful of Penisin, rubbing it into the affected area.

      "ooh, ahhh, yeah!!! ummm...."

      You'll notice a warm, tingly feeling right away -- that tells you that Penisin is working!

      "Oh, wow!! mmm, aaahhh!!"

      You may find that you need several applications daily to provide maximum relief!

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    2. Re: Technicality by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny
      "To be applied by the girl next door."

      I don't think it would reach.

  7. Let's hope he wins by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Funny

    If his lawsuit is successful and these penis-enlargement companies get put out of business, my inbox should become considerably less cluttered.

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  8. Man... by kid-noodle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Takes some balls to do that..

    Gonna be a hard case to win mind ;)

    (That took far too much effort.. Must touch up on my wang referencing skills)

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    1. Re:Man... by w00t_sargasso · · Score: 2, Funny

      A little hard to perform was it?

      Well, I can say with conviction that I have no performance issues whatsoever, and no need for penis enlargement...

    2. Re:Man... by stevens · · Score: 5, Funny
      ... Must touch up on my wang referencing skills

      My wang referencing skills are fine.

    3. Re:Man... by Gleng · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should really make sure to bone up on the law regarding this to make sure he doesn't blow it.

      Though I have to admire his spunk. He's going to face some stiff competition when holding his own against firms like that.

      ...Ok, that'll do for the moment.

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    4. Re:Man... by NoData · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, he's got one bonefied cocksure attitude sticking them with these charges. Let's hope he's got a tight enough grip on the meat of the issues to finally rub out one form of junk email that just keeps coming back. Smack'em with the penal code, then their business will be in a real poke.

      Willy succeed? Latest poles say yes!

    5. Re:Man... by Radish03 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've always found this one to be my favorite wang reference there. Actually, its one of the very few PAs I ever found funny, but i haven't read it in a long time for said reason.

  9. TRIP SMALL ANIMALS WITH YOUR 7-FOOT PEN1S by SkOink · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll testify against that guy any day! My penis grew to 7 feet, just as promised! You should see the look on those animal's faces. :P

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    1. Re:TRIP SMALL ANIMALS WITH YOUR 7-FOOT PEN1S by blincoln · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Was that an actual part of a spam? I ask, because normally I don't get them, but I was going through our email abuse box at work and came across one that said:

      Five situations Chum should try.
      1. "Doggiestyle? Right, here I come.. and still I come, no, it's not a dildo, it's still me!"
      2. "You like this, baby? What? I cut my dick off and now I've got a huge dead man's cock dangling here? NO WAY!"
      3. "You don't tell me you've just called off this threesome 'cuz my dick is small, HOW ABOUT THESE EXTRA INCHES, BITCH?"
      4. "Are you sure your uvula doesn't like my extra inch cockslaps?"
      5. "Gotta change my whole boxer wardrobe 'cuz my cock always dangles out. Three extra inches.. fuck Natural Gain Plus!"

      I mean, seriously. Especially number 2. Are spammers really getting that desperate, and more importantly does it actually make people buy these alleged products?

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  10. Small wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm amazed that they got a million people to sign onto the class action suit. Essentially that means 1,000,000 men are willing to stand up and say "hi, I have an abnormally small penis AND I was stupid enough to respond to spam".

  11. its like my friends idea for a scam: by yuri82 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) advertise for sexual products of the kinky kind
    2) charge $3 for the product
    3) never deliver
    4) when customer complains, mail a check for $3 with bold letters saying "RETURN FOR HUGE ANAL DILDO"
    5) customer never has the courage to cash the check
    6) ...
    7) Profit !!

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    1. Re:its like my friends idea for a scam: by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your friend has excellent taste in movies -- Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is a really good work of art.

    2. Re:its like my friends idea for a scam: by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      and it wasn't even original there.

      That scam has been around for ever.

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    3. Re:its like my friends idea for a scam: by MarcQuadra · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's odd, because I definitely WOULD make a stink regardless of what the check said. I often order parts to fictitios company names (at my home address) just to bug out the mailman. I have packages addressed to:

      "Impaled Infant Ponography"
      "Basement Cockmonger Sex Studios"
      "Institute for Breasticular Research"

      and so on and so forth.

      The UPS guy and the mailman LOVE delivering packages here.

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  12. Lawyer money by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    The DenverPost reports that 'A California man on Thursday sued a slew of international companies, including a Greeley distributor, alleging the penis-enlargement products they market and distribute do not work

    I hope he doesn't plan on paying his lawyers with the money he's waiting for from his business associate and dear friend, Dr. Adelawe Johnson in Lago, Nigeria ...

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    1. Re:Lawyer money by rampant+mac · · Score: 5, Funny
      Good Day,

      You may be suprised to receive this email since you do not know me. I am the son of the late president of Democratic Republic Of Zaire, President Mobutu Sese Seko, and I have an enormous penis. I presume you are aware there is a financial dispute between my family ( THE MOBUTU ) and the present penis-enlargement spammers. This is based on what they believe as bad and corrupt information on my late father's part. May his soul (and penis) rest in perfect peace. You might have heard how a lot of my father's considerable "bulk" has been frozen in Switzerland and North America.

      Following the above named reasons, I am soliciting for your humble and confidential assistance to take custody of THIRTY MILLION Viagra pills, and open your gateway for me in the areas of business so I can spam half of humanity.

      Warmest regards,

      Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko

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  13. Re:Denver or California? by ziggy_zero · · Score: 5, Informative

    Guy is in California, lawyer is in New York, suit filed in Denver, companies are in Cyprus and British Columbia. Yeah, it's a little confusing.

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  14. In shocking development by GonzoDave · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man launches case against spammers after learning that Hot Lesbian Teens Do Not Want His Throbbing Cock Right Now!

    1. Re:In shocking development by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well DUH, they're lesbians!

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  15. Re:Denver or California? by mookie-blaylock · · Score: 3, Informative

    The guy is from California. The lawsuit was filed in Denver, and the distributor is from Greely (CO).

    Quality submission.

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  16. Re:Denver or California? by modecx · · Score: 5, Funny

    We call Colorado "New California."

    Didn't you get the memo?

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  17. The next lawsuit by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    Up next. Woman sues penish enlargment pill seller for making her boyfriend's penis too large. Their response, "Why should my client be responsible if her eyes are bigger than her ..."

  18. Re:Denver or California? by ikewillis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's fairly clear from the article he's a California man suing a Greely, CO firm in Denver, CO, most likely because it's an interstate matter. Greeley is in Weld county... one would assume the suit would take place in the county seat (which I believe is Greeley)... but I don't really know too much in matters of interstate law. Perhaps one of the sides requested a change of venue...

  19. I've wondered why... by djeaux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... this hasn't been done before. More specifically, I wonder why a woman hasn't already devised a class action sexual harassment suit built around penis enlargement or viagra spam.

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  20. This is a Good Thing by nordicfrost · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If we allwent out, suing and legally harassing these sam firms at each and every opportunity, we'd get somewhere. I have made it my personal goal to chase the bastards down on each opportuinty I get. Where I live, spam is in effect illegal and I have gotten four (4) spams from Norwegian companies since my main email address went up some six years ago. All of them were reported to the state consumer ombudsman (what you don't have one?) Three of them have resulted in reprimandes and none of them repeated the offence.

    Get down from you high horses and start the hand to hand combat!

  21. Re:Denver or California? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they don't match.

    Headline: "Denver Man Sues Penis-Enlargment Firms"
    Summary: "A California man on Thursday sued.."

  22. evidence? by DJ+Marvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    LOL! i guess he got to know that empirically. kinda embarrasing going to court with the evidence, don't you think?? :P

  23. I can't remember where I read this, but... by BW_Nuprin · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...from what I've read, a woman's vagina only has sensitivity in the first 3.75 inches, so big wang dang doodles don't really make a difference. However, if your cirumference is less than 3.75", you're measuring in at less than the necessary width to apply pressure to the walls of the vagina, and you might as well just stick it in the mud, 'cause its not going to do any good. So, really, wangular width is whats important.

    1. Re:I can't remember where I read this, but... by PacoTaco · · Score: 5, Funny
      So, really, wangular width is whats important.

      Don't forget wangular momentum.

    2. Re:I can't remember where I read this, but... by ajd1474 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Generally speaking, the angle of the dangle is proportional to the sag of the bag, providing the throb of the knob remains constant.

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    3. Re:I can't remember where I read this, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ancient Proverb: If you can't hit bottom, ding the hell out of the sides.

    4. Re:I can't remember where I read this, but... by 1lus10n · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes width is important, as is length.

      The most important thing is the stroke itself. The longer the stroke the more pleasure a woman would get from it.

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  24. I found it: The solution to spam AND SCO by beforewisdom · · Score: 5, Funny
    The solution to both spam AND SCO:

    1. Get the spamming community to use linux.

    2. SCO sues spammers on copyright charges, drains spammers of funds.

    3. Spammers destroy SCO's site permantly.

    Steve

  25. Tingly by shigelojoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, you might have grabbed the Ben-Gay by mistake.

  26. I know something that works... by Upaut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The field of anthropology facinates me... In one of the texts that I read, I found mention to the Topinama tribe of Brazil. These people lived as they were until the 16th century, and had a very interesting practice. The men would have a local venomous snake bite their penises, and after six months of mind-altering agony, their shlongs had become very long. Now, what I want to know is how this happened (and what type of snake was used)?

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    1. Re:I know something that works... by MSBob · · Score: 5, Funny
      Those same snakes whose oil is extracted by spammers and then sold by email as penile enlargement cream.

      Hope this helps.

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  27. They Do Work by Veramocor · · Score: 3, Funny

    They do work my penis is up to 2 inches(5.08 cm).

    Yours Truly,

    Darl McBride

    SCO Group

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    1. Re:They Do Work by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Liar!

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  28. "Estimate"? by fbform · · Score: 2, Interesting


    From the article:
    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Denver, seeks class-action status to represent an estimated 1 million people who ordered the products in response to advertisements on television, radio and spam e-mail.

    I'd like to know how they arrived at this estimate of 1 million customers. How are the damages (after the lawyers' fee) to be distributed? Equally among all these people? How did the plaintiff learn their identities?

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  29. Insulting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    I recently got a spam which said:
    > Become 10 times the man you are,
    > increase your length by two inches!

    Let's see, two divided by ten ... hey, I'm feeling offended!

    1. Re:Insulting. by niittyniemi · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got one that said:

      > Are you one of the 80% of men
      > with a smaller than average penis?

      Can anybody see the logical phallusy in that?

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    2. Re:Insulting. by deminisma · · Score: 2, Funny

      Out of all the ones i've recieved (they know their target market!), my favorite is... "Smash walls with your massive penis!" No joke.

  30. Well good for him by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This was a shiny dollar bill on the ground waiting to be picked up, and it didn't occur to anybody to do it. I mean, the claims being made are pretty blatantly falsifiable. Take someone's money and make their penis longer? How hard is it really to verify to the satisfaction of a court that these claims are fraudulent? This is blatant fraud, relying on the fact that nobody wants to file a suit on behalf of guys with small penises who respond to spam. This guy obviously doesn't care what anyone thinks of him and I can really respect that.

    I have a question for all you Slashdot lawyers, who are always good for some creative interpretation of the law. Is it possible for me to form and sue on behalf of a class, and name another class as the defendant? Specifically, I would like to sue on behalf of everyone who has received a penis-enlargement spam and did not respond to it, and I would seek damages against the class of individuals who received this spam and did respond to it. And I would specifically like to include in my definition of this latter class those individuals who seek relief in this case, so that I can place a lien on any judgments squeezed out of Ron "Hedgehog" Jeremy for failing to lengthen the members of this class as promised. Part of that money is required to cover my email deletion charges.

    1. Re:Well good for him by xilmaril · · Score: 3, Funny

      individuals have to volunteer to join a class lawsuit, so unless you can convince the people dumb enough to respond to spam.... ooh, idea!

      Dear Xfesfesf,

      I have 4.5 million stored in my bank account, and wish to share it with you. To claim your share, contact me at and ask about joining the new social class lawsuit!!!

    2. Re:Well good for him by triclipse · · Score: 5, Informative
      Yes, IAAL :)

      Is it possible for me to form and sue on behalf of a class, and name another class as the defendant?
      No, you cannot name a "class" as defendants, no such animal. However, you can name a very large number of defendants (though they will not called a "class" no matter how many you name).

      Although the rules for class actions differ from state to state, and from state to federal, I am quite certain that no jurisdiction entertain the possibility of a "class" of defendants.

      I would like to sue on behalf of everyone who has received a penis-enlargement spam and did not respond to it.

      When I get the time, I am seriously going to start a spamlaw practice, but until then I must refer you to federal law ("Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing Act of 2003") and California law - "Restrictions On Unsolicited Commercial E-mail Advertisers" - Business and Professions Code 17529 et. seq..

      California consumers have the right to sue spammers directly and get their attorneys fees paid! See B&P code 17529.8(a)(1):
      "In addition to any other remedies provided by this article or by any other provisions of law, a recipient of an unsolicited commercial e-mail advertisement transmitted in violation of this article, an electronic mail service provider, or the Attorney General may bring an action against an entity that violates any provision of this article to recover either or both of the following:
      (A) Actual damages.
      (B) Liquidated damages of one thousand dollars ($1,000) for each unsolicited commercial e-mail advertisement transmitted in violation of Section 17529.2, up to one million dollars ($1,000,000) per incident.
      (2) The recipient, an electronic mail service provider, or the Attorney General, if the prevailing plaintiff, may also recover reasonable attorney's fees and costs."

      I would seek damages against the class of individuals who received this spam and did respond to it.

      You will have to read the statute to see if it will fit, but if I were to assign this a Fark tag, it would be "Unlikely."

      Happy suing!

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    3. Re:Well good for him by lamont116 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, you cannot name a "class" as defendants, no such animal. However, you can name a very large number of defendants (though they will not called a "class" no matter how many you name).

      You can certify a defendant class. Check out FRCP Rule 23 ("sue or be sued...") or run a Google search on "defendant class action." It's rare, but it's available.

  31. They must work... by Music+To+Eat · · Score: 5, Funny

    If he can be in both Denver and California at the same time.

  32. Plan B! by alexmogil · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Gentelmen, we've been outfoxed. Time to go to Plan B!"

    R3AL V@GINAL SHRINKING CREAM!

    Men! Do your wives complain that your manhood just doesn't measure up? Slip your woman some VSC and in two to three weeks your woman will be wondering what she was complaining about!

    SIZE DOES MATTER!

    beowulf289028344street12

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    1. Re:Plan B! by marko123 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "It's like buying penis enlargements for all you friends and family"

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  33. The idiot problem... by Psychor · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I've always been pretty amazed that companies marketing such blatantly fake products actually manage to sell anything, especially things like penis-enlargement pills. These are typically advertised through email with poor spelling, worse grammar, and appear written by someone who manages to produce documents using poorer English than a bad Babelfish translation.

    It appears to me that people who are stupid (and insecure, but mainly just stupid) enough to buy these products seem for some reason unable to resist the persuasive tactics of modern marketing. Surely logically, the demographic spending money on such obviously fake products must waste vast amount of money on anything which appears in a slick television commercial, created by intelligent advertising execs who can speak English.

    I suspect that even if penis enlargement pills and suchlike are taken off the market, those that will buy such products will simply spend their money on something else that they neither really want nor need (diet pills, viagra, naked teens in their email etc.) Although the advertisers are clearly doing wrong in this case, and suing them is a good course of action, this may not really help matter in the long term. There have always been products on the market whose effectiveness is dubious at best, and are often even harmful, yet some people clearly continue to purchase them. Perhaps the answer could be stricter controls over what products are allowed to be advertised at all. The crazy extreme alternative of course, is to take money away from the stupid people, but with adverts for personal loans and debt consolidation every five minutes during our mind-numbing daytime TV schedules, it seems unlikely that this will happen any time soon.

    Food for thought, in any case.

  34. There are precedents by armando_wall · · Score: 3, Informative

    Suing over spam has happened before. See here and here.

    I hope this becomes a trend, so spammers become discouraged, and find other means of living, like drycleaning or cemetery watchmen.

  35. Out of proportion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This guy might have a small penis but he does have big balls!

  36. Oh, so THERE they are! by cjpez · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excellent. I'm hoping it'll be easy to get a list of the people involved in the class action. Those are those jerks who have been encouraging spammers by replying to junk email. Get 'em!

  37. My own penis-enlargement scheme by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 5, Funny
    I've been tempted to set myself up with some spamware to send out the real secret to penis enlargement: play with it. If that doesn't work: get someone else to play with it.

    I've found it works pretty well for me. (Proof available on request.)

  38. Wonder how'll he submit that evidence..... by rune2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is he going to do, drop his trousers for the judge?

  39. Re:Wow by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sometimes I lose faith in Slashdot, and then a little gem like this story comes along to keep me going through the night.

    I came home and found an e-mail message offering to sell me something that would do the same thing.

  40. Another relevant joke... by hirschma · · Score: 5, Funny

    An oldie, but goody:

    After a long makeout session, a man and his girlfriend are about to have sex for the first time. Dude starts undressing, shoes and socks come off first, and the girl asks: "What happened to your feet? They're all messed up!"

    Guy says, "As a kid, I had tolio".

    She shrugs it off, but when the pants come off, well, there's something odd there, too. The guy notices the look on her face, and says, "As a kid, I had the kneesles".

    The rest of the clothes come off. When the girl sees his package, she gets exasperated and says, "Let me guess, smallcocks, right?"

    1. Re:Another relevant joke... by Dread_ed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Another oldie and goodie...

      A guy looking for chicks in a bar apporaches a stunning blonde. They make smalltalk while they drink and he finally propositions her.

      She says to him, "Look, you're cute and all, but I NEED "12 to be satisfied."

      And I said to her, "Great! I get to screw you four times then!"

      Hmmm...Did I say I? I meant HIM...He said that...err...umm yeah.

      What's the matter officer? I have obeyed all of your silly earth laws!

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  41. Penis enlargement blog by rolocroz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This guy tried a penis enlargement pill and blogged about it. Take a look at his conclusion.

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    1. Re:Penis enlargement blog by GonzoDave · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seems to be a marketing ploy. I notice he helpfully links to the site selling the pills he used

    2. Re:Penis enlargement blog by Tin+Foil+Hat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, uh-huh. So who is this lucky dick anyway? From the "About Me" page, he's a regular working stiff from NYC who you can reach by email at thepill3@lycos.com. No name, as far as I can tell.

      So, yeah, if you want to beleive a bunch of absolutely unverifiable crap from "thepill3@lycos.com", then yeah, I suppose it might be interesting. At least he provides lots of links to suppliers.

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  42. Interesting previous article on DM Contact Mgt by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Informative
    DM Contact Management, mentioned in the article as one of the targets of the lawsuit, was also mentioned in this article from November about a guy getting arrested for sending threatening letters to spammers.

    Advanced Botanicals Inc's contact page can be found here. They're listed on this page as having different products refused entry to the US for false labelling.

  43. and yet another one by sirmalloc · · Score: 5, Funny

    a guy and his newlywed wife are on their honeymoon, getting ready to have sex for the first time.

    before getting any further, the guy warns his wife: "i just want to let you know, i'm like a baby down there."

    the wife responds: "it's okay. i love you no matter what."

    the man then takes off his clothes and the wife falls off the bed and exclaims: "i thought you said you were like a baby down there!"

    he responds: "i am. it's 12" long and weighs 9 pounds."

  44. News for nerds... by donnz · · Score: 4, Funny

    my guess this is: ...stuff that matters?

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  45. Re:Denver or California? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Slashdot editors are in need of some headline enlargment or something.

  46. obligatory bill gates' joke by QEDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Right after his honey moon, Bill Gates' wife tells him: "Now I understand why is it called Microsoft".

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  47. What price dignity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Judging by past class action suits, about $10.00 per member of the class. And a few million each for the lawyers.

    So every woman in Denver will know that this guy has a small cock, AND no money!

    Why is he doing this, again?

    1. Re:What price dignity? by LordLucless · · Score: 2, Funny

      about $10.00 per member

      You crack me up.

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  48. Depends... by Goonie · · Score: 5, Informative
    If by average you are talking about the artihmetic mean, if the distribution is skewed it's quite possible to have 80% of people having a below-average size. Consider a group of 10 men, 8 of whom measure 13 cm, and 2 who measure 20. Voila, 80% of our group have a smaller-than-average member. By contrast, it would be logically impossible for 80% of men to have a penis smaller than the median.

    In practice, many, many natural statistics are normally distributed, and it would be a reasonable guess that penis length is. Therefore, the mean and the median will be the same.

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  49. Re:Denver or California? by modecx · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Oh probably 2 or 3 years ago we felt a huge influx of Californians. Then they all moved to Boulder. Or at least it seemed that way. I remember the news was telling newcomers to change their liscense plates as soon as possilbe to avoid problems in traffic.

    But honestly, I think we've got more texans than Californians recently.

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  50. Why Englargment Pills Sell Despite Not Working by $criptah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From a social engineering point of view, selling penis enlargement pills can bring a very limited amount of loss. Just imagine, you are a guy who is concerned about his manhood. You buy tons of expensive pills to find out that none of them work. Would you advertise it to the rest of the world? Would you have enough balls to tell a sweet young lady on the other side of the phone that your penis is still small despite that four hundred dollars that you have spent in the past six months? Probably not.

    Additionally, you cannot argue when it comes to shady products such as penis enlargement and dieting pills. Usually when you get those items, you get many disclosures that state "Not approved by FDA" and "results may vary." How are you going to argue against that? If you do not believe me, go to any GNC store and get a bottle of any *magic* pills that promise to turn you into a pro-bodybuilder with an eleven-inch manhood. Then read what it says on the bottle... then, if you dare, go and use it. Then go and complain about your results if you find them to be unsatisfactory. At best, everybody is going to laugh at you.

  51. Damn !! by thales · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn it, they don't work!!

    I Was looking forward to buying Mega Doses of Penis Enlarger treatments for Darl's Cellmate when he lands in the pound-me-in-the-ass prison!

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    1. Re:Damn !! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rich white criminals don't land in pound-me-in-the-ass prisons.

      America's judicial system may be better than a lot of systems around the world, but neither is it free of corruptino.

    2. Re:Damn !! by BCoates · · Score: 5, Funny

      corruptino

      Man, they discover new particles every day. Does it cause cancer?

  52. Sounds to me like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    trouser snake-oil

  53. Re:Denver or California? by grolschie · · Score: 5, Funny

    His enlargement worked so well, he is in Denver AND California at the same time. :-)

  54. Re:Scam predates Lock Stock by a long way by Fjornir · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...simply shoving it in a hole in the wall for some unknown person to deal with.

    I need to switch banks! ;)

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  55. So? Even if this works... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 3, Interesting
    the spammers will just put "for entertainment purposes only" or words to that effect in the fine teeny-weeny legal speak.
    Psychic hotlines been doing that for years.

    OTOH, I've heard those penis pumps (with prolonged use) actually do make your penis slightly larger, but that they also turn it into a big numb sausage hardly fit for peeing out of, never mind sex.

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  56. It's not the size of a lawsuit that matters... by ErnstKompressor · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's how you use it...

    To which the ladies reply, "Yeah, right."

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  57. That Penis cream by MasterB(G)ates · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah ok I used it. It didn't make my penis any bigger, but my hands are now huge.

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  58. Sounds similar to something from Australia by Stonent1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There was something several years ago about a company with a money back offer if you weren't pleased with their porn / product (I forget which) and they issued a check from something like "Anal Rape and Masturbation company" and they made a bunch of money because everyone was too embarassed to cash the check. I think it might have even been on Slashdot.

    1. Re:Sounds similar to something from Australia by Bombcar · · Score: 3, Funny

      It was from a documentary called "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels."

      Hope this helps!

  59. Am I the only one? by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only male reader of slashdot who takes offence at the implication that "Penis Enlargement Pills Do Not work" (and now someone has sued alleging fraud) is actually in any way relevant "stuff that matters" to me?

    Just because I'm a geek of the highest order and a frequent slashdot poster doesn't mean I'm any less of a man (the fact that I don't have a girlfriend is neither here not there).

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  60. Mostly because.. by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ..norwegian spammers aren't all too bright either, or well depending on how you look at it. Every Norwegian spam (or at least every one in Norwegian, 2-3 or so) has been directly from Norwegian servers with a clear and tracable path.

    The day I start getting SPAM in Norwegian "from" China, is the day I worry. Then the advertised firm will claim innocents and outsourcing it to a third party in a foreign country, I'm not so sure how effective the anti-spam laws will be. Time will tell....

    Kjella

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  61. Re:Denver or California? by shfted! · · Score: 4, Funny

    All that this issue needed was someone cocky enough to do it! Oh, the irony!!

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  62. Indiana University by frinkster · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Kinsey Institute for Sex, Gender and Reproduction is located at Indiana University, not the University of Indiana.

  63. Taco said it best by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Your penis is small.
    2. You thought LONGitude was a worthy investment towards solving #1
    3. Your penis is still small.
    4. You are fscking cheap and willing to swallow the embarassment of admitting all of the above just to reclaim your sixty bucks, even tho any male with one drop of self respect would simply forget the 60 bucks to save himself the embarassment of admitting that he is stupid, cheap and has a small dick.

    - Taco

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  64. Not so. by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The vaginal opening in a petite woman varies in size and depth. And that goes with any woman regardless of size mind you.

    Same thing applies to men. Even the shortest, skinniest man can be well endowed.

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  65. Re:Denver or California? by Milo77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, I'm pretty sure you sue where you're more likely to win...given things like the judges, that state's laws against such things, the courts track record, etc...Colorado is a very conservative and religious state, maybe they think that will be an advantage over a liberal state like california- maybe they think the CO judge will cringe at the very word "penis" - of course i'm just speculating here ;)

  66. Just to keep things tongue-in-cheek... by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...and keep in mind that this is about as unofficial a statistic as you can get, given that it was given as the "out-of-the-blue questionaire" for an underground newspaper (readme) at Carnegie Mellon University. The sample size is probably quite small as well.

    Anyway, the questionaire showed that, at least in terms of conscious sexual appeal, a pretty large proportion of women interviewed on campus found large penis girth to be significantly more highly valued than long penis length.

    This matches up with the claim here. I suppose there's probably someone that's done serious studies in this field, given the marketing power of sex.

  67. Look at the poll... by Bloody+Peasant · · Score: 2, Funny



    So I see this story, juxtaposed next to the latest /. poll asking about hand to hand weapons.

    Someone clearly has a sense of humour...

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  68. Some folks ... by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day when you had a small penis, you bought a Corvette, or collected big rifles and pistols

    Nowadays, some folks fearful of modern snake oils content themselves with their SUVs de jour ... and the less said about the endowment of those who drive Hummers, the better ...

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    1. Re:Some folks ... by CdnShaggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have no guns, and I drive a 91 honda civic.. What does that mean?

  69. Be thankful by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's probably open sores.

  70. Penis 'Enlargement' Pills Pack Impurities by TPFH · · Score: 5, Informative

    Quite a while ago I posted a comment to a spam article about trusting to buy from spammers, asking "Who would put in their mouth and swallow something from a spammer."

    Well, it's old news (Haven't seen an opportunity to post this since then) but I was more correct in asking this than I had imagined.

    Well, it turns out some folks at the Wall Street Journal did a laboratory study of these pills, and "analysis of a composite sample of 10 Performance Marketing pills and turned up significant levels of E. coli, yeast, mold, lead and pesticide residues."

    So among other nasties, there is a significant amount of fecal matter in these pills.

    I'm actually suprised this isn't bigger news.
    Maybe we should all put it in our signature files until the spammers go away: "Penis Pills have Poop in them!"

    Maybe some idiot that is stupid enough to buy from a spammer will die of E. coli and get a Darwin Award. Those sure get forwarded around a lot. Even my mom forwarded me the nominations for the 2003 Darwin Awards. (Which suprised me.)

    Maybe I should submit it for a Front Page story, but it was originally reported on August 13, 2003.

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    1. Re:Penis 'Enlargement' Pills Pack Impurities by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Which describes much of what we eat. Many of the food recalls, which some would say have accelerated over the past few years, are caused by fecal contamination. Such contamination news tends to be suppressed because it might force mainstream food and drug manufacturers to improve their contamination prevention efforts. Such manufacturers have traditionally resisted any improvements in these areas.

      A less cynical view is that some contamination is to be expected. If the levels are below some regulatory standard, there really is no issue. Newspapers tend to make these anthills seem like mountains to sell newspaper. I suppose web sites should do an analysis of the pathogens found on newspapers, and then create FUD about how these could kill you.

      In another food and drug industry defense, many of these things will only kill children, pregnant women, and the elderly. Since these people are not supposed to use the product, or will die soon anyway, there again is no issue.

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  71. Finally... by guarddonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone standing up for the little guy....

  72. It didnt work.......... by cbdavis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ive been rubbing that vig Oil on my thingie for months.....nothing...still have a 1 inch slong.

    But my hand is HUGE!

  73. Penile Enlargement and Breast Enhancement Work! by yintercept · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am not sure about the products advertised in the spam. But, reading through all the different forums on the internet, it seems clear that something is successfully turning men into dicks and women into boobs.

  74. Re:Denver or California? by Smitedogg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here in Pueblo the Californians have banned smoking in bars too. Somehow the housing prices have stayed normal here, though. Probably because no one that had money would ever dream of living here.

  75. So let's see... by trudyscousin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If this suit succeeds, then one of the staple items of spam content potentially disappears.

    On the other hand, one million (according to the article) dumbasses are rewarded for their bad judgement. It's likely they'll continue to think there's nothing at all wrong from purchasing junk from a spammer--if not penis pills, then something else just as shady.

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  76. One thing for sure by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    nobody is going to be flirting with Denver Man during this trial.

  77. God, I wish this stuff didn't work. by foxtrot · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have responded to all of the spam in my inbox over the past few years.

    I have four thousand, two hundred and fifteen higher education degrees.

    Sir Edmund Hillary wants to climb my boobs.

    And between all the penis enlargement and viagra spam, I'm so long and perpetually hard that NASA wants to use my dong as a space elevator.

    -JDF

  78. Read the fine print by ThisIsFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of these junk products remain legal because they very narrowly escape making outright false claims. My local radio stations are currently inundated with "star registry" commercials in time for V-day. The particular company claims that "the star name is registered in book form in the U.S. Copyright Office." Very clever. Name-dropping a government agency gives their claim an appearance of legitimacy, when in fact all they are doing is taking your $50 and writing down someone's name in a book. Hell, I can do that for $25. Another product claims to regrow hair, and "is so effective that it was awarded a patent." The truth, of course, is that a patent only says a particular party has claim to an idea or method, not that the idea or method actually does something useful.

    My personal favorites are the suggested-physician scam products. These companies try to suggest that a doctor is/was involved with the product, and we are supposed to make the mental leap that this means the product has been proven to work through rigorous medical trials. The cheapest scammers use the words "doctor" or "physician" in the product name. Next are the doctors that speak to you on television, but hold a doctorate in some totally unrelated field (most likely business). Some of these guys manage to get a real M.D., but he only says something like "I use it", or perhaps "it worked for me", which really isn't making any legally-binding promises.

    But, scammers can claim damn near anything they want, as long as they can make you keep it for [at most] 30 days, they have your money and you can't do a thing about it. (I love it when they claim a 60 or 90 day "guaranteed" refund -- as if they are required by law to honor that) The only thing the scammers have to worry about is if the product hurts you, so it's in their best interest that the product does nothing at all.

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    "A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
    -RMS
  79. Does anyone think it's funny... by Mgdm · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that there's a big OSDN Personals ad at the top of the comments on this article?

  80. Alternative! by rjh · · Score: 4, Funny

    May I suggest using the money to buy mega cartons of Marlboros for Darl's cellmate when he lands in Pound-Me-In-the-Ass prison? While you're at it, make sure to mention that you're a "friend" of Darl's and it'd be such a "shame" if anything "unpleasant" happened to him...

    Given that Darl is bound to wind up married to the man with the most cigarettes, the trick is to make sure the right man (or in this case, the most "oh dear Lord have mercy God NOOOOOOOOOO!" man) has the most cigarettes. :)

    Cigarettes: Viagra for the penal system!

  81. What a jack ass by glenebob · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "I now feel that I have been cheated out of my money by the sellers of the products. If possible, I would like to prevent the sellers of the products from cheating others as they have cheated me."
    The rest of us feel cheated out of our inboxes thanks to jack asses like yourself who make spamming profitable.

    We also feel cheated out of a useful legal system because of sue-happy jack asses such as yourself.

    This guy is a real treasure.

  82. Re:Denver or California? by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ever since moving to Colorado from California nine years ago, my wife and I have gotten into the habit of telling people we are "from" where we were born. In my case, that means Ohio and, in her case, it means Minneapolis. We only admit we moved to Colorado from California under intense interrogation.

    Besides "liberal" tax and spend attitudes, most Califorians don't have the slightest idea of how to drive in ice and snow. This seems to be as much a part of Coloradans taking a dislike to Californians as anything. Thus, saying we are "from" the midwest seems to disarm some of the hostility we might otherwise encounter.

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  83. Is this really Expanding a Geeks Head..? by Ziggilla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this really Expanding a Geeks Head..? No pun intended..(ok, yes it is..)) Being a faithful follower & reader of '/.' , this subject here just don't feel right. Is this is a place for 'News for Nerds / Stuff that Matters' or a place for 'Fiends w/ little Wienies / Stuff that Splatters'. Times a changin'~..

  84. Re:Denver or California? by clarinetforhire · · Score: 2, Insightful

    (IANAL) Often you sue in the court of the jurisdiction that made the rule...

    Since I seriously doubt the city has written any consumer-protection laws, and I seriously doubt the county has, he might be suing them in state court. But consumer protection is one of those things that a lot of states just leave up to the fed., so Denver may be the closest federal court.

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  85. Defense motion for summary judgment? by r_j_prahad · · Score: 2, Funny

    One of the highlights of the article is when the man says "I was wondering for a long time why no one has gotten around to suing these penis-enlargement guys, because it seems like a pretty blatant ... fraud."

    The defense is gonna claim the cocky bastard's gotta lot of balls to sue, so something must have worked.

  86. Re:Penis size studies? by Stray7Xi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lets be real, how do you get a decent sampling pool to make a statistic of average penis size.

    If you ask for volunteers you won't get the insecure men.
    If you have penis doctors (Wangologists?) provide measurements, you get a larger sample of men with problems (enough that they warranted visiting doctor).

    The best way obviously is to take a nonvoluntary random sampling across the country (or world). I suggest they abduct men off the street and have playboy bunnies forcefully measure their wang. It will still miss all the slashdotters on their computer in their mother's basement.. but they don't matter since they have no use for their wang anyways.

  87. No system works but one by Molina+the+Bofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to this reliable site no penis enlargement system works but theirs.

    They wouldn't lie, would they ? After all, it's written on the web, so it must be true.

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  88. Not Too Embarrassed by vistic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work for NextCard Visa and one time I got a call from someone disputing a charge on their bill.

    It was a pretty cryptic iBillCS.com charge or something, so I asked what it was. He said it was an e-mail for penis enlargement he got. So I asked if they billed him without his permission or got his account information somehow, but he said nope... he ordered the penis enlargement but it just didn't work.

    So I sent him his dispute form.

    But I put the guy immediately on hold and called everyone on my team over to look at my screen and see what this guy was disputing. Everyone had a good laugh.

    So I guess some people are shameless and admit to it, anyway.

    1. Re:Not Too Embarrassed by Grrr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But I put the guy immediately on hold and called everyone on my team over to look at my screen and see what this guy was disputing. Everyone had a good laugh.

      So I guess some people are shameless and admit to it, anyway.

      Pot, kettle, black.

      <grrr>

  89. Re:Interesting by lamont116 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kerney v. Fort Griffin Fandangle Ass'n, Inc., 624 F.2d 717, 721 (5th Cir. 1980) is one case that is cited, although it is somewhat limited in scope (it applies to members of unincorporated associations being certified as a class). My sense is that the expectation from the scholars might be somewhat broader than the actual case law. I seem to recall that Siegel discussed the issue in his notes to McKinney's (that's the NY annotated code for those outside the Empire State), which would lend it an air of legitimacy even in the absence of case law here in New York (although it may not have been Siegel - I last looked at this 8 years ago and my memory has been known to fade!)

  90. Stop all of these cocksure replies! by booms · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a first time in awhile that a comments section in Slashdot has had enough spunk to cause me to spit a load of Mountain Dew all over my nice flatscreen monitor. You tools should be ashamed.

    Well, now that my monitor is clean, it's time to go back to repling to the e-mail from the grammatically challenged lesbian teen to see how I can "make women gasp when pants go down".

  91. Actually ... by Poligraf · · Score: 3, Informative

    Eastern esoteric traditions that are not requiring celibacy (such as Tantric or Daoist) have special techniques for women that teach them how to use their vaginal muscles properly.

    One uses little vaginal balls to do the training, and the results are that they have not only more plesure for themselves and their men, but also have less problems during childbirth and better tonus. As the result of this training, these women can become satisfied with smaller dicks among other things.

    You can find the techniques in this book: http://www.universal-tao.com/amazon/healing_love.h tml

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  92. Here's what I don't understand by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even the ones hawking these things tell you that the average size for a human is something like 6.1 inches. And that the vast majority of humans have "only" that size.

    So basically guess what? Anyone who "only" has 6 inches -- or is within, say, +/- 10% of that -- is just a perfectly normal member of the human species.

    Why, in Odin's name, would anyone feel desperate and inadequate for being perfectly normal? WTH? Since when it's inadequate to _not_ be a mutant?

    I mean, what next? Spam for pills to grow a 6'th finger on your hands? Or to grow an elephant trunk instead of a nose? Or to grow a giraffe neck?

    The whole thing seems stupid beyond belief to me.

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    1. Re:Here's what I don't understand by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe the appropriate reponse might contain the comment, "Karma is a bitch." When Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe were popular in the 50's, women were faced with unrealistic expectations -- and have had cope with lower self-esteem and in some cases increased health risks (implants). Nowadays crap like Sex in the City and Coupling tell guys they will simply not be memorable lovers if they're aren't donkies. Never mind technique. Never mind that most normal women do have an upper bound on "comfortable" size that likely isn't that much larger then the guy in question. No, if you're going to satisfy your woman, you've got to split her in half.

      Ask yourself how many guys would want to date a woman based on her breast size? That's probably a similar number to how many women would go for a larger guy. Now, think about that first number, and subtract how many guys could still have a happy relationship with a woman regardless of her chest?

      In other words, Yes, women care, a few more than others, but not so many that it's causing you to lose potential dates. There are probably other factors that rank far higher (spending all your time on /., for instance).

  93. But will it stand up in court? by clickety6 · · Score: 3, Funny


    Or is that contempt of court?

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  94. try the self-motivated way first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    it takes time and dedication, but has a lot more potential (and it's free):

    http://www.cheekycherry.com
    http://www.matterso fsize.com

  95. Not according to Lili von Shtupp by jazman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah, it's twoo, it's twoo!

  96. Two Bad Internet Jokes by salesgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've often wondered why the internet is fascinated by:

    * Getting a larger penis
    * Using chemical pheremones to motivate the opposite sex
    * Porn

    Then I remembered that the internet is was created by geeks for geeks and funded by a government that knows that large numbers bored smart people would eventually get tired of large numbers of stupid people making the rules.

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  97. Shame by killmeplease · · Score: 2, Funny


    Admitting that you spent $160 on penis enlargement cream shows that you are very desperate to fix your bad small dick problem. Is telling the world that you have a small dick and are willing to try anything worth getting your $160 back? You be the judge.

    This reminds me of Liza Minelli's ex-husband, who is sueing Liza for spousal abuse. Imagine telling the world that you were beaten up by Liza Minelli, is that really worth $10 million. I don't think so.

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  98. Re:Denver or California? by DR+SoB · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Canada we think the same thing of all Americans.. lol.. "Look out honey, that's a NY plate!!"

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  99. Re:Post-mortem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Somehow I'd think that a rigor stiffend dick wouldn't count as an erection.